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April 16, 2025 33 mins

What if you could unlock the value of your Bitcoin without ever paying capital gains? In this episode of Leviathan News, we sit down with Jason Leibowitz from Meanwhile — the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-denominated life insurance company.

Jason breaks down how Meanwhile works, how it uses whole life insurance to offer tax-free Bitcoin loans, and why this structure is perfect for long-term BTC holders who want exposure, liquidity, and inheritance protection without giving up control.

This is the closest thing to a tax-advantaged Bitcoin IRA — but without the limitations.

🔗 Learn more: https://meanwhile.bm
🐦 Follow Jason: https://twitter.com/LeboBTC
🐙 Leviathan News: https://twitter.com/Leviathan_News

00:00 Intro — Tax Day reflections, sponsors, and BTC pain
01:35 Jason Leibowitz joins to talk Meanwhile and its $40M raise
04:00 What is Meanwhile? Bitcoin-denominated life insurance explained
06:30 How it works — premiums, growth, death benefit, and BTC loans
09:30 Jason’s background and why he joined Meanwhile
12:00 Why legacy insurers can’t offer Bitcoin-native products
14:50 The tax play — how policy loans help you avoid capital gains
18:00 Borrowing from your own BTC policy with no margin call
21:00 How Meanwhile handles custody, risk, and regulation
24:00 Whole life vs. self-directed IRAs — and why this is better
26:30 Who this is for — policy size, trusts, family estate planning
29:00 Application process and global availability
31:30 Final thoughts — growing BTC wealth without selling

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