July 19, 2025 • 19 mins
July 19, 2025 episode of Seth Grossman on WPG Radio, every Saturday morning, 9a.
Host John DeMasi. Talk with a Purpose.
CNN. Epstein files. Deportations.
Q-Anon. Expose evil pedophiles. Control and black-mail politicians.
Trump supporters. Dems happy about supposed, declining public opinion about Trump
Congressman Jeff Van Drew. Release the Epstein files. Protect the innocent.
Immigration laws must be enforced. 8 billion people in the world. Too many illegals…. overturn the lifeboat.
Climate disaster propaganda. Wind turbines. Weather. We keep building bigger homes by the water. Corporate media crying wolf. Former NJ Gov Christie. False storm warnings.
Boomer Democrats. 150 protestors on Ocean City bridge. No Black adults in attendance.
Story was buried: Wildwood $2.3 million funding grant for their boardwalk. No Govt by consent. Will cost $600 per taxpayer. Automatic tax hikes. Wrong use of funds.
Wildwood also won a $66,000 grant from the US Dept of Agriculture.
Need for South Jersey DOGE. Dept of Govt Efficiency.
Margate’s Lucy the Elephant grant clawed back.
AC Councilman George Tibbitt. Why do young people hate America?
City pensions. Health Insurance. Hidden Obama tax in order to pay for illegal aliens.
Job promotion just before retirement to jack up payments.
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WPG Talk Radio ninety five point five. I
know Seth Grossman is gonna make sense out
of this because he always makes sense out
of everything, so we'll bring him in. Seth,
good morning. Welcome to Talk with a Purpose.
I don't know. And I'm gonna let,
you know, tell everybody to go to libertyandprice30.com
and to go to our breakfast meetings at
(00:21):
the, and Sal's Coal Fired Pizza, Saturday morning
from 09:30 to 10:30.
They email us to sign up for the,
the Liberty and Prosperity,
email update to the info@libertyandprosperity.com
because I know I'm gonna get sidetracked
talking about this.
But,
I I was watching CNN,
(00:41):
like many people and and watching Rahm Emanuel
and James Carvel
just bouncing,
up and down with glee,
that they think they finally unraveled Trump, that
Trump is gonna go down,
all because of two issues, the deportations
and the Epstein files.
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And and their theory is is this. They're
saying that,
a big base well, first of all, they
don't they think that Trump supporters are are
stupid and,
ignorant and bigoted
and,
and fall for all these conspiracy theories.
So they're claiming that, that there's something called
QAnon,
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which basically believes
that there's this,
inside
conspiracy
of evil pedophiles.
And these evil conspirators
are responsible for everything bad in the world
today. They're manipulating the banks. They're starting wars.
They got us to give money to the
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Ukraine. They got us to give money to
Israel.
And the reason all that they control
key
to
key to unraveling
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every problem in the world is to expose
these pedophiles
and that somehow they're all listed on this
Epstein list.
And they all supported Trump because they thought
Trump was gonna uncover all of this.
And now when when Trump said, well, there's
really nothing more to see here, they feel
the,
betrayed, and they're gonna
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walk away from Trump. And Trump is over,
and and that's why the Democrats are so
happy. And that's why the Democrats are making
such a big deal about this. I don't
know. Does does that make any sense to
you? Yes. Yes. It does. Yes. I'm glad
you,
I'm glad you cleared that up for me.
So really, Epstein has nothing to do with
Epstein,
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to to a lot of people who believe
in in a certain conspiracy.
It's that, there's this evil group of people
who are responsible for all these bad things.
And and if the Epstein papers would expose
who they are,
then the whole world would get fixed, and
Trump is now no longer doing that. Now
how many Trump supporters feel that way?
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I don't know, and we're gonna find out.
By the way, the other,
thing that the, the Democrats are are so
happy about is that public opinion is turning
against Trump on deportations.
So they say
because Trump promised he was going to deport
the worst of the worst criminals
and, you know, two thirds of the people
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being deported, you know, have no other criminal
record.
And because of that,
they're saying the America the the Democrats are
saying the American people are
turning against Trump on his key issue of
immigration.
So, of course, Democrats are gonna play all
that up on their their media.
And, and and Republicans really, you know, have
to deal with this. You know, we have
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to number one,
and I I think I understand why Jeff
Andrew is doing what he's doing. He's saying,
look.
All these people are expecting all these,
you know, big political people to be exposed
in the the Epstein papers. So the only
way to if if we don't release them,
that's just gonna confirm what they're thinking. So
let's it it as messy as it's gonna
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be,
And I I really feel sorry for a
lot of the victims
because one reason for keeping these papers quiet
is you have girls who are, you know,
14, 15, 16 years old at the time,
and and you don't want their names,
and they, you know, out there to be,
you know, trashed or compromised.
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You know, it's just a horrible situation, but,
you know, maybe the only way to get
out of this
is to say, here it is. And and,
yes, it's horrible. And Epstein was horrible, and
he blackmailed a lot of people, and he
had a lot of sick people out there.
But, no,
you can't explain Israel and Ukraine and the
banking system,
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you know, because of Epstein. So,
I I think that's where we're going there.
Well, again, thank you for clearing that up
because you made it a lot clearer to
me now.
Thank you.
And and as far as the immigration, I
think that even if Trump and and his
officials are not saying so,
the rest of us have to scream at
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the top of our lungs,
that, you know, immigration laws need to be
enforced because
there are 8,000,000,000
people in the world, and one quarter of
them are living in horrible poverty. And if
they had the chance,
2,000,000,000 people would come to America. And if
they do that, they would destroy us. So
we can't let every person into this country
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who wants to be in this country, even
if they're nice, even if they have a
hard luck story, even if we feel sorry
for them and their kids because our it's
like being in a lifeboat that already has
a 100 people in it. You take another
100 people, the lifeboat sinks.
So we we have to get that message
out as well.
And and and, you know, that's something we
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have to do.
And and by the way, another reason the
Democrats
are are
happy, they're happy about all the, the rain,
the floods, and the disaster
because they're saying, see, the Republicans stop wind
turbines in the ocean.
And because they stop wind turbines in the
ocean,
look at all this, climate disaster that we
have.
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So so the the Democrats are playing the
long game.
They're preparing for the elections for Congress next
year,
and and they're using these issues to undermine
Trump with the, with Epstein,
to turn people,
to have sympathy for illegal immigrants and to
go against the deportations,
and to blame
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Republicans
for those tragic deaths.
And by the way, the the the reason
that that we have, you know, the the
bad weather is,
you know, not because the weather is worse
than it was
thirty or forty or fifty years ago. The
problem is that people are building bigger homes
by the water.
I mean everybody wants to live by a
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river. Everybody wants to live by a lake.
Everybody wants to live by the ocean.
And so if you look at the science,
you'll see that you had the same floods
fifty years ago, a hundred years ago, but
it didn't cause damage because people were not
living
so close to the water.
And and and by the way, there's another
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thing that people are not talking much about,
and that is how the media
and the, the emergency management officials have cried
wolf so often
because they were promoting this climate crisis.
They would make a a issue these big
warnings and your cell phone goes off for
very, very minor storms.
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We saw this with the storms and, you
know, when Christie was governor,
Chris Christie in 2011 with hurricane Irene.
Remember, it was just a a minor storm
far off the coast, but they forced everybody
to evacuate.
And what happens is if you
give warning after warning after warning and nothing
happens
when when it's a real,
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life saving life threatening event,
people just don't listen. And I think that
was a factor
in people not taking some of these warnings
seriously,
in Texas and New Mexico.
Oh, boy.
Here we go again.
But meanwhile,
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but it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
So the the the Democrats,
it's almost two different worlds because you go
to anyone,
who's a Republican,
Jack Chiarelli is doing great. Trump's doing great.
He's doing everything we elected him to do,
and things are good.
You look at the Democrats,
it's not just CNN.
(08:42):
You'll notice that on Thursday, we had a
150,
Democrats,
protested in Ocean City by the Ninth Street
Bridge.
And basically,
every
two weeks or every three weeks, the Democrats
have turned out anywhere from 400 to 600
to 200 to 300 people
at all these, protests against Republicans.
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In March at Van Drew's office they had
600 people on Tilton Road and his fundraiser
in Smithville they had 400 protesters
on June 14 the no king's day they
had about 400 people on the
Ocean City Bridge
So so on the one hand, it it
they're saying, look, the people are turning against
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the Republicans. We're gonna
win in New Jersey,
in November, and we're gonna win back congress
next year.
But on the other hand, I thought it
was interesting,
they're all boomers.
I noticed that in all those crowds of
people,
I didn't see one black person in any
of those
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rallies
for the last five months.
And it looks like the average age, they're
all boomers. I didn't see any young people
at these events.
So,
it could very well be that this is
not a trend,
that this is just, you know, people who
are have already been making noise or still
making noise. But
but my my guess is as good as
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anyone else's. Yes. That's
boy, I'd I'd tell you,
The the boomers are,
our our our our last guess.
Yeah. You're right. You're right.
Well, like like I often do, the the
story that interested me most,
this week is a story that probably no
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one paid any attention to.
Last Thursday,
Wildwood
got a $2,300,000
grant
to build a pedestrian walkway
from the boardwalk to Pacific Avenue.
And it was buried in the back of
the paper, but it really
gets to the heart of what we talked
about last week about how we no longer
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have government by consent,
in America. And this is a typical example.
So let's
let's see how, when America was great,
how would something like this be handled?
You have the people in Wildwood would say,
gee, you know, we really need to bring
boardwalk traffic to the restaurants
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downtown by Pacific Avenue.
So let's all get together
and pay for
a walkway to go from the boardwalk to
Pacific Avenue. It's going to cost $2,300,000
So we have,
3,858
taxable properties in Wildwood.
The average person in Wildwood pays $6,500
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in taxes.
So this is going to cost us $600
per taxpayer.
So if the people wild would vote,
to build this thing, you know, they're they're
voting knowing that,
we're gonna pay for it by paying $600
extra in taxes. Maybe we'll pay it all
in one year or maybe we'll space over
ten years just like with the condominium.
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But that's not how we do things New
Jersey anymore.
Who's paying the $2,300,000
It's being paid by a grant from the
New Jersey Department of Transportation.
That means that walkway is being paid by
Parkway and Expressway tolls,
the gasoline tax, the tire tax and the
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wholesale gasoline tax on refiners.
And thanks to Chris Christie and the Democrats,
we get automatic
coal and gas tax hikes every year
because they said this is needed for a
trust fund
to to give us, safe highways. And if
we don't vote for these,
tax hikes,
am I am I still there, by the
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way? Yes. You are. I'm listening. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So so so if we don't
have these automatic tax hikes, you know, our
our our roads and bridges will collapse. And
now you see it's it was all a
fraud, all fake.
Most of the money is going to stuff
that has nothing to do with highways
just like this.
So meanwhile, we're paying higher taxes every year,
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but most of Route 40 is still a
two lane death trap.
347,
you know, where Route 55 ends
is still a death trap. They never finish
Route 55.
But, that money without anybody's consent, without anybody's
knowledge,
is is going for something that has nothing
to do with with highways. So I I
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thought that that's typical of what's going on.
It's a shame, we don't have an Elon
Musk to to sort of stop stuff like
that. Yeah. How how do we stop that?
Well, I mean, I I'm encouraged. The reason
I like I I sort of,
supported Jack Ciattarelli from the from the beginning
is, you know, we have so many lawyers
in politics.
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He's, to to best my knowledge, the only
accountant
who I know in politics. And he
knows how to how to spot stuff like
this. And I really, have a lot of
faith in him, and I hope I hope
he's gonna make it. Oh, by the way,
that with this Wildwood thing, there's one other
thing.
In addition to the $2,300,000
for this project, Wildwood also got a grant
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of $66,000
from The United States,
Department of Agriculture.
So why would the Department of Agriculture
pay money for a,
like a a pedestrian walk in Wildwood and
it it comes under the rural development grant
program?
So,
in case you didn't notice that,
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you know, that Wildwood is is qualifies for
a rural development grant, well well, now you
know. And
and that almost makes what the what what
Musk did with the Margate elephant look good.
So,
you know, I I'm hoping that that Elon
Musk, now that he sees the Republicans,
finally clawed back on that $9,000,000,000
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and and and permanently took away the money
from the USAID and and NPR,
that,
may maybe, he'll come back with with Trump
and and he can find because there's he'd
only scratched the surface. I'd love to see
him,
spend another six months. I'm sure he'd find
a whole lot of more stuff.
Yeah. Don't they grow a lot of, stuff
in Wildwood?
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Yeah. Well,
check check out the agricultural,
you know, employees there,
supervising the construction.
Anyway
They grow they grow fudge, don't they, in
Wildwood?
Something like that. Anyway, just one more point
I'd like to talk to.
Once again,
Harry Hurley, interviews George Tibbitt, Atlantic City Councilman,
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on Fridays.
And,
in in many ways,
that that got to the conversation we had
last week about why our young people
are turning to,
people who
hate America like AOC and that Zoran,
Mamdani in New York.
And a big problem is that a lot
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of our young people are so disgusted
with their future in America. They just wanna
burn everything down.
And in a way,
George Tippett was talking about this, that there
we have the most important issues
that affect us the most
yet no politician
could talk about it
because if you do it ruins your political
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career.
Like I if I would ever run for
public office now, I mean I wouldn't have
a chance because all they have to do
is,
is record six sessions of me speaking to,
John Demasi, and that would be the end
of my career.
It was,
because if you wanna talk about the stuff
that matters most,
most voters just don't wanna handle it. And
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and George was talking about the the problem
with the pensions.
And he was talking about how, you know,
you have these, police and firemen,
first with the health insurance. They're paying like
$78,000
is taken out of their pay to pay
for health insurance now. And we all know
now that the high cost of health insurance
is really a hidden Obama tax
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to pay for illegal immigrants.
But then he talked about the pensions,
about,
what a disaster the New Jersey pension plan
is. And I just wanna, you know, correct
the record on one thing.
You know, the the popular myth is that
the New Jersey pensions were hunky dory. Everything
was wonderful
until,
Christy Todd Whitman came along and took the
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pension funds and gambled them in the stock
market.
And then you had Chris Christie came along
and he stopped making pension contributions.
And then
he suddenly
gave all the pension investment money to his
Wall Street
friends who lost the money on these junk
bonds and
you know
horrible investments.
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But
it's not and what they did and all
that's true.
But the reason that Christie Todd Whitman and
Christie were chasing to try to get an
8% return on the pension funds
when the real market was only offering 3%,
is because the pension funds were in trouble
long before that. And the whole problem with
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the New Jersey pension funds is when you
and I retire,
we put our money into private or private
four zero one ks or IRA.
And when we're just starting out, we're not
making much money.
So we only put a little money in
at the beginning and then when we're making
more money, we put more money in. But
when we retire,
what we get at the end is based
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on the puny contribution to made in the
middle.
Well for years and years, New Jersey pensions
were not based on what you put into
the system. It was based on your highest
salary when you got out. And all sorts
of gimmicks were used to juice up your
salary before you got out. People would be,
get big pay hikes just before they retired.
They get multiple jobs just before they retired.
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They'd be made police chiefs, just before they
retired. So if we're gonna fix the pension
system, we have to be honest,
and talk about the problems we had before
Whitman and and and Chris Christie screwed up
the pension system. Anyway,
lots to talk about libertyandprosperity.com.
It's all posted on the website, and,
have a great weekend. Thank you, Seth. And
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as always, you cleared up everything for us
in a couple of minutes.
Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity,
the website libertyandprosperity.com.
I'm John DeMasi. It's Talk with a Purpose
every Saturday, nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio
ninety five point five.
WPG Talk Radio ninety five point five. I
know Seth Grossman is gonna make sense out
of this because he always makes sense out
of everything, so we'll bring him in. Seth,
good morning. Welcome to Talk with a Purpose.
I don't know. And I'm gonna let,
you know, tell everybody to go to libertyandprice30.com
and to go to our breakfast meetings at
(00:21):
the, and Sal's Coal Fired Pizza, Saturday morning
from 09:30 to 10:30.
They email us to sign up for the,
the Liberty and Prosperity,
email update to the info@libertyandprosperity.com
because I know I'm gonna get sidetracked
talking about this.
But,
I I was watching CNN,
(00:41):
like many people and and watching Rahm Emanuel
and James Carvel
just bouncing,
up and down with glee,
that they think they finally unraveled Trump, that
Trump is gonna go down,
all because of two issues, the deportations
and the Epstein files.
(01:01):
And and their theory is is this. They're
saying that,
a big base well, first of all, they
don't they think that Trump supporters are are
stupid and,
ignorant and bigoted
and,
and fall for all these conspiracy theories.
So they're claiming that, that there's something called
QAnon,
(01:23):
which basically believes
that there's this,
inside
conspiracy
of evil pedophiles.
And these evil conspirators
are responsible for everything bad in the world
today. They're manipulating the banks. They're starting wars.
They got us to give money to the
(01:43):
Ukraine. They got us to give money to
Israel.
And the reason all that they control
key
to
key to unraveling
(02:03):
every problem in the world is to expose
these pedophiles
and that somehow they're all listed on this
Epstein list.
And they all supported Trump because they thought
Trump was gonna uncover all of this.
And now when when Trump said, well, there's
really nothing more to see here, they feel
the,
betrayed, and they're gonna
(02:24):
walk away from Trump. And Trump is over,
and and that's why the Democrats are so
happy. And that's why the Democrats are making
such a big deal about this. I don't
know. Does does that make any sense to
you? Yes. Yes. It does. Yes. I'm glad
you,
I'm glad you cleared that up for me.
So really, Epstein has nothing to do with
Epstein,
(02:44):
to to a lot of people who believe
in in a certain conspiracy.
It's that, there's this evil group of people
who are responsible for all these bad things.
And and if the Epstein papers would expose
who they are,
then the whole world would get fixed, and
Trump is now no longer doing that. Now
how many Trump supporters feel that way?
(03:07):
I don't know, and we're gonna find out.
By the way, the other,
thing that the, the Democrats are are so
happy about is that public opinion is turning
against Trump on deportations.
So they say
because Trump promised he was going to deport
the worst of the worst criminals
and, you know, two thirds of the people
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being deported, you know, have no other criminal
record.
And because of that,
they're saying the America the the Democrats are
saying the American people are
turning against Trump on his key issue of
immigration.
So, of course, Democrats are gonna play all
that up on their their media.
And, and and Republicans really, you know, have
to deal with this. You know, we have
(03:49):
to number one,
and I I think I understand why Jeff
Andrew is doing what he's doing. He's saying,
look.
All these people are expecting all these,
you know, big political people to be exposed
in the the Epstein papers. So the only
way to if if we don't release them,
that's just gonna confirm what they're thinking. So
let's it it as messy as it's gonna
(04:11):
be,
And I I really feel sorry for a
lot of the victims
because one reason for keeping these papers quiet
is you have girls who are, you know,
14, 15, 16 years old at the time,
and and you don't want their names,
and they, you know, out there to be,
you know, trashed or compromised.
(04:31):
You know, it's just a horrible situation, but,
you know, maybe the only way to get
out of this
is to say, here it is. And and,
yes, it's horrible. And Epstein was horrible, and
he blackmailed a lot of people, and he
had a lot of sick people out there.
But, no,
you can't explain Israel and Ukraine and the
banking system,
(04:51):
you know, because of Epstein. So,
I I think that's where we're going there.
Well, again, thank you for clearing that up
because you made it a lot clearer to
me now.
Thank you.
And and as far as the immigration, I
think that even if Trump and and his
officials are not saying so,
the rest of us have to scream at
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the top of our lungs,
that, you know, immigration laws need to be
enforced because
there are 8,000,000,000
people in the world, and one quarter of
them are living in horrible poverty. And if
they had the chance,
2,000,000,000 people would come to America. And if
they do that, they would destroy us. So
we can't let every person into this country
(05:33):
who wants to be in this country, even
if they're nice, even if they have a
hard luck story, even if we feel sorry
for them and their kids because our it's
like being in a lifeboat that already has
a 100 people in it. You take another
100 people, the lifeboat sinks.
So we we have to get that message
out as well.
And and and, you know, that's something we
(05:53):
have to do.
And and by the way, another reason the
Democrats
are are
happy, they're happy about all the, the rain,
the floods, and the disaster
because they're saying, see, the Republicans stop wind
turbines in the ocean.
And because they stop wind turbines in the
ocean,
look at all this, climate disaster that we
have.
(06:14):
So so the the Democrats are playing the
long game.
They're preparing for the elections for Congress next
year,
and and they're using these issues to undermine
Trump with the, with Epstein,
to turn people,
to have sympathy for illegal immigrants and to
go against the deportations,
and to blame
(06:35):
Republicans
for those tragic deaths.
And by the way, the the the reason
that that we have, you know, the the
bad weather is,
you know, not because the weather is worse
than it was
thirty or forty or fifty years ago. The
problem is that people are building bigger homes
by the water.
I mean everybody wants to live by a
(06:57):
river. Everybody wants to live by a lake.
Everybody wants to live by the ocean.
And so if you look at the science,
you'll see that you had the same floods
fifty years ago, a hundred years ago, but
it didn't cause damage because people were not
living
so close to the water.
And and and by the way, there's another
(07:17):
thing that people are not talking much about,
and that is how the media
and the, the emergency management officials have cried
wolf so often
because they were promoting this climate crisis.
They would make a a issue these big
warnings and your cell phone goes off for
very, very minor storms.
(07:39):
We saw this with the storms and, you
know, when Christie was governor,
Chris Christie in 2011 with hurricane Irene.
Remember, it was just a a minor storm
far off the coast, but they forced everybody
to evacuate.
And what happens is if you
give warning after warning after warning and nothing
happens
when when it's a real,
(08:01):
life saving life threatening event,
people just don't listen. And I think that
was a factor
in people not taking some of these warnings
seriously,
in Texas and New Mexico.
Oh, boy.
Here we go again.
But meanwhile,
(08:21):
but it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting.
So the the the Democrats,
it's almost two different worlds because you go
to anyone,
who's a Republican,
Jack Chiarelli is doing great. Trump's doing great.
He's doing everything we elected him to do,
and things are good.
You look at the Democrats,
it's not just CNN.
(08:42):
You'll notice that on Thursday, we had a
150,
Democrats,
protested in Ocean City by the Ninth Street
Bridge.
And basically,
every
two weeks or every three weeks, the Democrats
have turned out anywhere from 400 to 600
to 200 to 300 people
at all these, protests against Republicans.
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In March at Van Drew's office they had
600 people on Tilton Road and his fundraiser
in Smithville they had 400 protesters
on June 14 the no king's day they
had about 400 people on the
Ocean City Bridge
So so on the one hand, it it
they're saying, look, the people are turning against
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the Republicans. We're gonna
win in New Jersey,
in November, and we're gonna win back congress
next year.
But on the other hand, I thought it
was interesting,
they're all boomers.
I noticed that in all those crowds of
people,
I didn't see one black person in any
of those
(09:44):
rallies
for the last five months.
And it looks like the average age, they're
all boomers. I didn't see any young people
at these events.
So,
it could very well be that this is
not a trend,
that this is just, you know, people who
are have already been making noise or still
making noise. But
but my my guess is as good as
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anyone else's. Yes. That's
boy, I'd I'd tell you,
The the boomers are,
our our our our last guess.
Yeah. You're right. You're right.
Well, like like I often do, the the
story that interested me most,
this week is a story that probably no
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one paid any attention to.
Last Thursday,
Wildwood
got a $2,300,000
grant
to build a pedestrian walkway
from the boardwalk to Pacific Avenue.
And it was buried in the back of
the paper, but it really
gets to the heart of what we talked
about last week about how we no longer
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have government by consent,
in America. And this is a typical example.
So let's
let's see how, when America was great,
how would something like this be handled?
You have the people in Wildwood would say,
gee, you know, we really need to bring
boardwalk traffic to the restaurants
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downtown by Pacific Avenue.
So let's all get together
and pay for
a walkway to go from the boardwalk to
Pacific Avenue. It's going to cost $2,300,000
So we have,
3,858
taxable properties in Wildwood.
The average person in Wildwood pays $6,500
(11:31):
in taxes.
So this is going to cost us $600
per taxpayer.
So if the people wild would vote,
to build this thing, you know, they're they're
voting knowing that,
we're gonna pay for it by paying $600
extra in taxes. Maybe we'll pay it all
in one year or maybe we'll space over
ten years just like with the condominium.
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But that's not how we do things New
Jersey anymore.
Who's paying the $2,300,000
It's being paid by a grant from the
New Jersey Department of Transportation.
That means that walkway is being paid by
Parkway and Expressway tolls,
the gasoline tax, the tire tax and the
(12:14):
wholesale gasoline tax on refiners.
And thanks to Chris Christie and the Democrats,
we get automatic
coal and gas tax hikes every year
because they said this is needed for a
trust fund
to to give us, safe highways. And if
we don't vote for these,
tax hikes,
am I am I still there, by the
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way? Yes. You are. I'm listening. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So so so if we don't
have these automatic tax hikes, you know, our
our our roads and bridges will collapse. And
now you see it's it was all a
fraud, all fake.
Most of the money is going to stuff
that has nothing to do with highways
just like this.
So meanwhile, we're paying higher taxes every year,
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but most of Route 40 is still a
two lane death trap.
347,
you know, where Route 55 ends
is still a death trap. They never finish
Route 55.
But, that money without anybody's consent, without anybody's
knowledge,
is is going for something that has nothing
to do with with highways. So I I
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thought that that's typical of what's going on.
It's a shame, we don't have an Elon
Musk to to sort of stop stuff like
that. Yeah. How how do we stop that?
Well, I mean, I I'm encouraged. The reason
I like I I sort of,
supported Jack Ciattarelli from the from the beginning
is, you know, we have so many lawyers
in politics.
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He's, to to best my knowledge, the only
accountant
who I know in politics. And he
knows how to how to spot stuff like
this. And I really, have a lot of
faith in him, and I hope I hope
he's gonna make it. Oh, by the way,
that with this Wildwood thing, there's one other
thing.
In addition to the $2,300,000
for this project, Wildwood also got a grant
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of $66,000
from The United States,
Department of Agriculture.
So why would the Department of Agriculture
pay money for a,
like a a pedestrian walk in Wildwood and
it it comes under the rural development grant
program?
So,
in case you didn't notice that,
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you know, that Wildwood is is qualifies for
a rural development grant, well well, now you
know. And
and that almost makes what the what what
Musk did with the Margate elephant look good.
So,
you know, I I'm hoping that that Elon
Musk, now that he sees the Republicans,
finally clawed back on that $9,000,000,000
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and and and permanently took away the money
from the USAID and and NPR,
that,
may maybe, he'll come back with with Trump
and and he can find because there's he'd
only scratched the surface. I'd love to see
him,
spend another six months. I'm sure he'd find
a whole lot of more stuff.
Yeah. Don't they grow a lot of, stuff
in Wildwood?
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Yeah. Well,
check check out the agricultural,
you know, employees there,
supervising the construction.
Anyway
They grow they grow fudge, don't they, in
Wildwood?
Something like that. Anyway, just one more point
I'd like to talk to.
Once again,
Harry Hurley, interviews George Tibbitt, Atlantic City Councilman,
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on Fridays.
And,
in in many ways,
that that got to the conversation we had
last week about why our young people
are turning to,
people who
hate America like AOC and that Zoran,
Mamdani in New York.
And a big problem is that a lot
(15:48):
of our young people are so disgusted
with their future in America. They just wanna
burn everything down.
And in a way,
George Tippett was talking about this, that there
we have the most important issues
that affect us the most
yet no politician
could talk about it
because if you do it ruins your political
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career.
Like I if I would ever run for
public office now, I mean I wouldn't have
a chance because all they have to do
is,
is record six sessions of me speaking to,
John Demasi, and that would be the end
of my career.
It was,
because if you wanna talk about the stuff
that matters most,
most voters just don't wanna handle it. And
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and George was talking about the the problem
with the pensions.
And he was talking about how, you know,
you have these, police and firemen,
first with the health insurance. They're paying like
$78,000
is taken out of their pay to pay
for health insurance now. And we all know
now that the high cost of health insurance
is really a hidden Obama tax
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to pay for illegal immigrants.
But then he talked about the pensions,
about,
what a disaster the New Jersey pension plan
is. And I just wanna, you know, correct
the record on one thing.
You know, the the popular myth is that
the New Jersey pensions were hunky dory. Everything
was wonderful
until,
Christy Todd Whitman came along and took the
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pension funds and gambled them in the stock
market.
And then you had Chris Christie came along
and he stopped making pension contributions.
And then
he suddenly
gave all the pension investment money to his
Wall Street
friends who lost the money on these junk
bonds and
you know
horrible investments.
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But
it's not and what they did and all
that's true.
But the reason that Christie Todd Whitman and
Christie were chasing to try to get an
8% return on the pension funds
when the real market was only offering 3%,
is because the pension funds were in trouble
long before that. And the whole problem with
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the New Jersey pension funds is when you
and I retire,
we put our money into private or private
four zero one ks or IRA.
And when we're just starting out, we're not
making much money.
So we only put a little money in
at the beginning and then when we're making
more money, we put more money in. But
when we retire,
what we get at the end is based
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on the puny contribution to made in the
middle.
Well for years and years, New Jersey pensions
were not based on what you put into
the system. It was based on your highest
salary when you got out. And all sorts
of gimmicks were used to juice up your
salary before you got out. People would be,
get big pay hikes just before they retired.
They get multiple jobs just before they retired.
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They'd be made police chiefs, just before they
retired. So if we're gonna fix the pension
system, we have to be honest,
and talk about the problems we had before
Whitman and and and Chris Christie screwed up
the pension system. Anyway,
lots to talk about libertyandprosperity.com.
It's all posted on the website, and,
have a great weekend. Thank you, Seth. And
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as always, you cleared up everything for us
in a couple of minutes.
Seth Grossman, Liberty and Prosperity,
the website libertyandprosperity.com.
I'm John DeMasi. It's Talk with a Purpose
every Saturday, nine till noon, WPG Talk Radio
ninety five point five.
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