Energy Healing Essentials with Siri Baruc Thornton

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So the type of breathwork that I do is just a
triactive breath.
I don't actually do lots ofdifferent variations of
breathwork.
I've tried various types ofbreathwork and I've landed on
this triactive breath, which Ifind to be the most powerful and
the most beautiful and the mostexciting and cathartic and the
most healing, and I just feel mymost expansive, most expressed

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self, my most relaxed, droppedin authentic self.

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Speaker 4 (02:46):
Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode
of the Live your ExtraordinaryLife podcast.
I'm your host, Michelle Rios,and today's episode we are
featuring a guest who, first ofall, I've known for some time
now and I really love her topieces, so I'm excited for you
to get to know her.
But she is the founder of SageBlush.

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She has over 26 years ofexperience in energy healing.
So we're going to talk aboutReiki, Akashic Record Reading
and Transformational Breathwork,which I know is going to be new
for a lot of you listening in.
So we're going to delve deepinto that and help you
understand how these differentmodalities can help you, the

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busy leader and entrepreneur,really return back to yourself,
which is the whole goal.
We talk about that a lot hereon the show, and I want us to be
able to really delve intoSiri's expertise in a way that
perhaps you haven't been exposedto before.
So, without further ado, mydear friend, Siri

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Baruch-Thornton is here today.
Welcome to the show, Siri.
How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Thank you, michelle.
I am doing so well because I'vebeen so looking forward to
talking with you on your podcast, which I've listened to several
times and very much enjoyed.
So thank you, it's such anhonor.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
You know and likewise I should have mentioned Siri
not only is an energy healer andshe hosts some of the most
fabulous retreats, of which Ihave participated in, so we'll
talk more about that in a bitbut she also is the host of an
incredible podcast, herself theAuthentic Creative.
I've been on the show before.

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It's a wonderful place forconversation.
She's coming on again, yes, andwhat I love about what Siri's
doing on the show is it's reallyabout powerful conversations
that center on everything fromself-expression to really
spiritual growth and renewal andembodiment, which not a lot of

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people focus on, and the secretsauce to so much of what we're
trying to create in our life isaround embodiment.
So we'll talk more about whatthat means, but I want to dive
right in Siri and hit it hardhere.
All right, let's talk aboutReiki.
What is it and how do youexplain it to someone who thinks

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maybe it's a little woo fromwhat?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
they know Sure, yeah Well, first of all I want to
validate if you think it's Wu orif you don't know what.
It is Perfectly normal.
I did not understand what Reikiwas when I first discovered it
too.
We have different exposures toit.
Nowadays, reiki is quitepopular in the spiritual world.
You can find it at your localspa a lot of the time.

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A lot of times, if you get amassage, you won't necessarily
know it, but a lot of masseusesare attuned to the Reiki
vibration.
And so what you're feelingsometimes when you get a massage
and you feel that extra deeperwarmth, that extra tingling,
that extra.
You can't quite explain what itis, but it just feels like

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extra love.
That is because they areattuned to Reiki.
And what is Reiki?
So Reiki means universal lifeforce energy, aka the energy of
unconditional love unconditionallove.
And the first time I everexperienced Reiki was when I was

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a teenager.
My mom was suffering frommigraine headaches, debilitating
migraine headaches.
She was in bed a lot of mychildhood and she found Reiki
After really searching in thewestern medical field for
solutions.
Reiki became a major solutionfor her, and so I reluctantly

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received reiki at first becauseI was a teenager and I was like,
mom, what are you doing?
What is this?
But myself recognized the energyand felt that sense of safety
and opened up and drew in theenergy, which is what happens.
And when you draw that energyin, it's the most loving, warm,

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safe feeling.
You know the feeling, michelle,when you have the best hug ever
.
That is Reiki.
Right, that is the pure energy,the life force energy, the
energy of unconditional love.
There's a reason why when wereceive a hug for more than 26
seconds, we are regulated in ournervous system.

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Our culture is a touch-starvedculture, so Reiki is a way to
have safe touch with integrity,with permission, we are able to
give and receive thisunconditional love, life force,
energy.
Everything that is alive has anenergy field, has a force field

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, and if you've ever seen StarWars, you know there is a force
field, there's a force, there'senergy, it's all energy.
And now science is catching upto this, that we know, now that
everything is vibration,everything is energy.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Everything is energy and we talk a lot about that on
this show.
So the listeners know we talkabout everything is energy.
You are energy, we are allenergetic beings and it's really
about tuning into a certainfrequency and vibration that
really determines yourexperience as you walk through

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life.
So help us understand therelationship between us as
energetic beings and Reiki as alife force.
Do we contain Reiki within us?
Is it something that we draw infrom outside of us or is it
something we give from within?
Talk a little bit more aboutwhat that relationship between

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us and Reiki really is.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, all of the above.
So we are Reiki because we arelife force, energy, we are love.
That's what we're made up of,that's who we truly are, at the
core.
And also, sometimes we can feelout of balance.
Dis-ease is the word dis andease.
So if we're out of balance, wecan create disease in the body.

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And what Reiki does is it bringsus into a state of homeostasis,
so it helps the body tocommunicate better with itself.
So optimal is this homeostasis.
Once our energy is in thisalignment, in this homeostasis,
then our body can do everythingthat it needs to do.
It knows exactly how to healitself.

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It has the intelligence.
So the Reiki is this preciseenergy that helps the
communication within the body,within the energy field of the
body.
So, really, what we're doing,for example, is plugging in
right, and we can plug inenergetically in various ways,

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and Reiki is one way of pluggingin.
So what's beautiful about Reikiis what we learn in first degree
Reiki.
If you take a first degreeReiki certification from a Reiki
master like myself, the firstthing you learn is self-healing.
Like we cannot pour, as youwell know on this podcast.
We cannot pour from an emptycup podcast.

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We cannot pour from an emptycup.
So self Reiki is the basis andthe foundation of Reiki is and
and there's a misconception.
Sometimes people think, becauseyou can do Reiki long distance,
that that's all that Reiki is.
It's just this like non-touchhealing, and that's, I think,
the little bit of the wooconception of it.
But actually one of the mostpowerful aspects of Reiki is the

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hands-on healing aspect.
So one of my teachers was mymom and her teachers, but then
my other teacher was this woman,libby Barnett, and Libby
Barnett wrote a book calledReiki, energy Medicine and her
whole mission, which is why Iwas attracted to her as my
teacher.
I read like 30 books and I waslike this one and I recommend
that for everyone to like reallybe discerning about your
teacher.
Libby Barnett is all aboutbringing Reiki into hospitals,

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hospice and home.
So, to answer your question andcome back to it is, it is who
we are, it's also what we canplug into and it's also what we
can receive from others.
So we can, we can be it, we canhave it, we can receive it,
just like with energy, just likewith love.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
So when we talk about dropping down into our heart
space yeah, sort of operatingfrom our head space, I'm
assuming, so correct me if I'mwrong that is the place that we
access energy.
When we are operating from thatdeeper space, we call the

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higher self, or you know, thatdeep, knowing, intuitive place
from within, versus when we'respeaking from ego or logic or
the analytical mind, which Ithink is important to point out.
A lot of the people that arelistening here are in busy
businesses, corporations,they're leaders, they're
entrepreneurs, and there is partof them that has been taught

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and needs to operate from alogical headspace.
But when we're talking aboutthe power of Reiki, it's coming
from that other space, is it not?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
That's a really interesting discernment and a
really interesting question, andI haven't actually looked at
that question so much before,michelle, and what I will say is
Reiki is definitely a space, asI keep saying, of unconditional
love and of course, weassociate the space of
unconditional love with theheart.
When you're accessing Reiki asa practitioner either first or

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second degree, or when you'rebeing the practitioner, you're
actually accessing that lifeforce energy from source the
practitioner you're actuallyaccessing that life force energy
from source.
So actually the way and this iswhat's so beautiful is you
simultaneously receive it whileyou're giving it, so you are
sourced while you're sourcing.
This can be something that youdo before you enter a room for a

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meeting.
This can be something you do onyourself before you go on to a
podcast or give a presentation.
This can be something you dofor yourself before you go on to
a podcast or give apresentation.
This can be something you dofor yourself at night, if you're
having trouble falling asleep,or you wake up in the night and
you can give yourself Reiki.

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The way that it works is thatthrough your prayer, that you
learn, through your intentionthat does come from your heart
space, and through these symbolsand mantras that you learn in
second degree Reiki, you're ableto access this universal life
force, energy from source, whichreally is like above your head.
Let's just say it comes downyour crown, down your third eye
center, your energy center, downyour throat energy center, your

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throat chakra, into your heartcenter.
It's the yes.
And then from that heart centerdown the energy center, your
throat chakra, into your heartcenter.
It's the yes.
And then from that heart centerdown the extension of your
heart, out your arms into yourhands, and then the hands become
the delivering access point, sothe hands then become this
extension of the heart space.
So yes, and also there's,there's more of it coming from

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source.
So what I think is soincredible is, if you are a high
achiever, you don't have togive from a place of just you,
of a place where you're feelingburnt out or depleted.
You can be giving from a placeof feeling and being literally

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sourced by source energy,sourced by universal life energy
.
So, plugging in, the firstthing we learn in first degree
Reiki and any of the modalitiesthat I do is how to ground and
run your energy.
My stepdad was a lawyer and mymom and my stepdad opened a
center where they taught a lotof these spiritual tools, reiki,

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psychic things and it was rightnext to my dad's law office, so
he had people that were lawyersthat would come and learn about
all these spiritual practicesand it very much heightens your
intuition, it very muchheightens your gut instinct and
what you learn when you'relearning Reiki is you learn to
listen with your hands.

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So you're listening from thisother perspective, this other
space, this more embodied space,this intuitive space.
So you really get a sense ofwhere do my hands want to go,
where do they instinctively feelthat they need to go?
A lot of times we're alreadyinstinctively healing ourselves.

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I mean, we're just born healers, even if we don't see ourselves
that way.
We place our hands whereverwe're in pain, especially with a
child.
They, you know, they trip, theycut their knee.
We're going to kiss the boo-boo.
We're going to put our handsover the boo-boo.
We're going to help to heal it.
Naturally, mothers do this.
So that's Reiki.
But when you have theseattunements and you learn these

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symbols and mantras and certainhand placements, we're just fine
tuning it.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
So could anybody administer Reiki?
I'm thinking, obviously, yes,mastery, that goes with learning
this energy modality, thisenergy healing modality, and
obviously you've studied it, youhave been certified, you run
certification programs.
But for the lay person, who'sjust kind of becoming aware of

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this or hearing of it for thefirst time, what's a simple
practice that they might do,even at home, to self-administer
Reiki?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
on your heart space, just like you just did, I think
instinctively.
You went there and that feelsreally good.
One of the places that Iinstinctively have gone for
years not so much recently, butwas to place my hands over my
neck, over my throat chakra justone hand on either side, very
gently, like a scarf when I'mlaying on my side at night, very

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gently like a scarf when I'mlaying on my side at night.
That is a way for me torecharge, rejuvenate, have it be
safe to speak my truth.
That has been really powerfulfor me and, honestly, wherever
you instinctively want to placeyour hands, just try placing
them there.
I was on a podcast the other dayand the woman interviewing me

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placed her hands on her foreheadbecause she was having a little
bit of a headache and shestarted to feel tingling.
She started to feel heat.
So the heat is a byproduct ofyour cells opening up,
recognizing that life force,energy, that love energy, and
drawing in.
The recipient is the one incharge of how much they receive
and then the body is in chargeof where it goes.

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So when you take an Advil, youdon't tell the Advil where
you're in pain.
There's an intelligence thatworks with your body.
This is very similar.
There's an intelligence thatworks with your body.
This is very similar.
There's an intelligence thatyour body has.
How does the body know how toheal itself?
It just does right.
It has that intelligence, ithas that wisdom.

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When you give it the rightconditions, it heals really well
.
We heal the most when we'resleeping because we're so
relaxed.
Ideally, when we fall into thatdeeper sleep, we're so relaxed
that we heal the most.
You see, like your eyebrowhairs grow overnight, right,
like everything grows and healsovernight when we get that

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deeper sleep.
So you could think of Reiki aslike the deepest sleep possible.
So when someone's on my Reikitable, for example, which is
just a massage table, but whensomeone's on my Reiki table, for
example, which is just amassage table, but when
someone's on my Reiki table,they're fully closed and a lot
of times they'll start snoring.
They will go into a very deepmeditation a lot of the time.

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So over the years I've kind ofseen everything.
26 plus years of doing Reiki,I've kind of seen everything.
And what I see across the boardis people feel blissful, they
feel safe.
Their nervous system gets tostart to heal.

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So when we are in a space wherewe feel relaxed, we feel calm,
we feel open.
In a space where we feelrelaxed, we feel calm, we feel
open, we feel loving.
Everything we want in our lifenaturally is just going to be
attracted to us, and I know youtalk about that a lot on the
podcast too.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Absolutely.
I want to talk a little bitabout my experience because,
yeah, I'd love that.
So a lot of you know that inthe spring, late winter, early
springtime I was out with Siriand a group of women all
entrepreneurs and we met up inMount Hood in Oregon and we had

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a retreat and everyone's workingon different parts of their
business and we really wentthere with the intention of,
first of all, bonding, becausewe were all on a very similar
journey and we all just reallywere excited about being able to
collaborate more together andbe there.
And Siri did a beautiful job atreally orchestrating some of

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these unique experiences that wehad while we were together, and
one of them was a breathworksession that she led that also
had a Reiki component, andlittle did I know, first of all,
definitely in a blissful spaceduring our breathwork session,

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but little did I know that thatcombination of breath, work and
Re happened and it was thisenormous release of emotion.
Nothing negative, nothing cameup.

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That was like it was just thisrelease and it was like the idea
, not like it was a nervoussystem.
Really, I thought we were allin this very relaxed state.
Uh-uh, not until we wentthrough that experience did we
really get to a fully regulatednervous system state?
But to do that it actually hadto let go of a lot of stuff that

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we didn't all realize we werecarrying.
Yeah, it was tremendous.
And at one point Siri laid herhands on me.
She went through each of thewomen there and in that moment,
that tingling sensation thatSiri talked about, the exchange
of the warmth that went from herthrough me, it's one of those

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things that once you experienceit, the recall is so visceral
because they're very uniqueexperience and it was just this
idea of being.
It's hard to explain other thansay, wrapped in love.
So you have the highlyintelligent women that are
building these businesses, thatare doing all these things very

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successful, doing all thesethings very successful, and were
really brought back into thestate of regulation through
something that quite franklylooks and probably is so simple
but incredibly powerful.
And that was what was so movingabout.
It is that nobody suspectedwhat was going to transpire.

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I think we all were kind oflooking around at each other,
surprised at the emotionalreactions we had to the
experience.
How was it for you as thefacilitator?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It is one of the most rewarding experiences across
the board for me of my life.
I was a professional,successful actor most of my life
and there's a lot of highs.
You get to travel, you get towork with famous people.
Sometimes this is just as good,if not better, for me the high

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that I get from being of servicewith my gifts and we all.
Because you were asking like,well, can anyone do this?
Can the lay person do this?
Yes, yes, anything that I do,you can do too, and I teach you
how to do it.
And please come and learn,because it will empower you.
And that is my favorite thingto do is empowering people, but

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specifically women, to come backto their power, to come back to
their truth, to come back totheir knowing, to come back to
their mastery, their mastership,because we've all mastered
energies and lessons and it'sjust a remembrance, it's just a
decision yeah, it's a shift.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
Right, there's a literal shift because I think so
many of us are walking throughlife kind of clenched, yeah,
holding our plates.
We're spinning in the airbecause we have so much going on
.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Personally, professionally and just there's
If you're a mom.
It's just like how do you notbe dysregulated?

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Yeah, I get a lot of folks that say, yeah, but you're
talking about CEOs.
You are all CEOs of your life,whether you run a business or
you're head of your household.
Wherever you find yourself, in,whatever stage of life, you are
the CEO of your life.
And I'm going to bet dollarsfor donuts.
A lot of you are just holdingon to the stress of everyday

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living, and what is so beautifulabout this experience is that
and we're going to talk aboutbreath work too here in a minute
is that this whole movement ofenergy healing is really about
returning to yourself,remembering who you were before
the world told you who you weresupposed to be right.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Exactly Coming back to the soul that you are Yep,
exactly One breath at a time,one breath at a time.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, so that's a great segue.
Let's talk breath work.
So we just did a little bit ofa dissection on Reiki.
Let's talk breathwork.
So we just did a little bit ofa dissection on Reiki.
Let's talk breathwork.
Yeah, how did that come intobeing?
How did you discover it?
What exactly is it and, godAlmighty, why are we all holding
our breath all the time?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
So it's interesting because with Reiki, it was
rediscovered by a Japanesereformist monk in the late 1900s
.
And this was the answer to howdid Jesus and Buddha heal?
What was the formula forhealing With breathwork?
Oh my gosh, I mean, thebeginning of time is when
breathwork started, right?

Speaker 4 (26:16):
God, we're all in this existence.
Let's go back to Genesis.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
What is life?
Life is breath.
This is how we come in.
This is the last thing we dobefore we go out.
We're all doing breath work.
We're just not necessarilydoing conscious, connected
breath work right.
We're all breathing.
Hopefully, if you're listeningto this, you're breathing.
So the type of breath work thatI do is just a triactive breath.

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I don't actually do lots ofdifferent variations of
breathwork.
Maybe one day I will, but fornow, for the past 20 years, I've
tried various types ofbreathwork and I've landed on
this triactive breath, which Ifind to be the most powerful and
the most beautiful and the mostexciting and cathartic and the
most healing, and I just feel mymost expansive, most expressed

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self, my most relaxed, droppedin authentic self.
So the tractive breath is allin and out of the mouth, just
the mouth, which is what you andI did at the retreat.
And what is so surprising isthat something so simple that we

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do every day, all day long thatif we just put a little bit of
consciousness into it and alittle bit of direction into it
and a little bit of disciplineinto it because there's work in
breathwork we're not justmeditating, it's an active
meditation and it's activating.
So that is why and how littletrauma big trauma in the body

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gets collected up and sometimeswe get what's called tetany,
which is like a little tightnessor tingling sensations around
the mouth or in that lobsterclaw hands or in the feet or
sometimes all over the entirebody can feel so incredible, but
it's so beautiful because, aswe know, the body keeps the
score.
Or maybe we don't know this,but this is what we're all

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learning in our self-improvementworld is that the body keeps
the score.
So, regardless of what you'reconscious of or unconscious of,
our issues are in our tissues,our issues are in the soma.
So the somatic release, thesomatic support, the activation
of the breath that we activateall of our systems.

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It brings up within us anythingthat's stuck or stored, without
having to know how or why.
So I love therapy.
I did therapy most of my life,but this is like 10 years of
therapy is what you justdescribed.
It's like 10 years of therapyin one session.
And it's because we're dealingnot just with the mind, not just

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with the stories, but we'redealing with the whole body.
And so if something, whensomething gets locked in between
age zero and seven, when we'relike fully just bunches, like we
don't even know who we are andwe're just taking it all on when
it gets locked in in there, andthen it becomes a part of our
identity.

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When we do breath work, we startto give the body enough safety
in the nervous system to unravelthat story and maybe we get to
see the story.
We get to see the movie, anepic movie of our life play out
in front of us.
We get to see while we're doingbreathwork.

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A lot of the time there's theopportunity to see pieces sort
of like a life review, if youwill, pieces of our lives that
are unhealed.
And we get this zoomed outperspective because we're in
this other state.
We're not coming from ego,we're not coming from mind,

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we're not coming from fear,we're in this other safe place.
And that really is acombination of the facilitator,
creating the safe conditions andbeing the guide so that you
feel that safety as well as you,because you're your highest
authority in anything that youdo.

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And that's what I remind peopleof, of you saying and signaling
to yourself I'm doing this, I'mshowing up for myself, I'm going
to do this breathwork, I'mgoing to breathe, I'm going to
see what happens, I'm going toget on the ride, knowing full
well that at any point, in anytime, you can get off the ride,
you can put yourself in thebrakes or you can go into the
gas.

(30:45):
But what you're talking about,michelle, is what we do as
humans, and we all do it is gasbreak, gas break, gas break.
And this allows the gas to beon so you can let it all go and
set it all down.
And I know I'm talking a lot infeeling terms, because this is
my world, is just theexperiential world as opposed to
the science world.
I'm sure there's other peoplethat can talk to you more about

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the science of breathwork, butwhat I will say is most
everything I do is the art ofthe invisible, so it's the
experience.
What does it feel like to eat achocolate cake?
What does it feel like to havean orgasm?
What does it feel like to doanything that you can't quite
explain?
And that's my world, if youwant a mystical, magical

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experience.
This is what I'm offering.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Let's talk about breathwork in terms of like.
So many of us grew up rightjust in simple terms, knowing
that it's important to breathethrough your nose and out your
mouth, and in breath work, youactually consciously breathe in
through your mouth.
So talk a little bit about whathappens and why we're doing it

(31:57):
that way.
What is it that's activating?
Because we talk about it as asomatic expression or somatic
healing, and I don't know that alot of people understand what
that means when we saybreathwork is a somatic healing.
So let's break it down a littlebit for us.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, so when I first started learning breathwork
about 20 years ago, it waseither this was a rebirthing
practice, is what they wouldcall it or aka conscious
connected breath, and that wasyou could either breathe in and
out of your nose or in and outof your mouth, and you just
choose one or the other, so theyboth work.

(32:34):
Wim Hof, who's sort of like oneof the fathers of breath work.
What he says, which I love, ishe just says just get the breath
in, it doesn't actually matter.
We get in our head about thetechnicalities of it and
honestly, yes, it's 80% bellyand 20% chest soft exhale, and

(32:55):
there's a whole explanation I gothrough before we do a
breathwork class.
But what it is is that you'rejust saying I'm going to
oxygenate my system, I'm goingto overload the system with
oxygen, so it's going to have areaction within my body that's
going to start to release, andthen, when you combine that with
the Reiki, it's the lovingenergy.
There's just this magic formulathat happens where you, just

(33:19):
your body just starts to feellike it can release.
I don't know how else to say itreally, other than just have
the experience.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, I think about it, as you're getting so much
more oxygen than you normallywould when you're just moving
through your day and we forgetto breathe.
How many of us are on a call,receiving information and we're
somewhat holding our breath,listening intently, and we
exhale at the end, but we'reliterally holding our breath for

(33:46):
10, 15 minutes holding ourbreath.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah.
So what I will say aboutshallow breathing, which is what
we tend to naturally do, isthat's an unconscious breath and
it's actually signaling to thebody that you're not safe.
So you actually don't have anexpansive viewpoint of anything.
You're in a fight or flightresponse, you're in a state of

(34:12):
dysregulation.
So when we signal to the bodythis activation, we get into the
parasympathetic and thesympathetic.
We do both of these responsesin the breath work.
We're doing this in a safe way.
We're activating everything ina safe way.
So it's like trying to think of, like if you had some baking

(34:32):
soda at the bottom of a glassand you stirred it up.
It's all in there.
But what we're doing is withbreathwork is we're activating
it.
We're stirring it up so it cancome up and out, so you can
clear it.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
All right, let's talk about, let's move on to Akashic
Record.
What exactly is it?
How does it work?
What are we doing in thisprocess?
Tell us more.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
So Akashic Record reading is something that I was
exposed to accidentally and Ithink a lot of people have had
moments or blips of this.
So I was doing Reiki, as youknow, for years and years and
years and occasionally I wouldtap into some wisdom and I
didn't have any sort of controlor predictability around this

(35:20):
wisdom.
People always on my table wouldwant to know after their Reiki
session not always, butsometimes they would want to
know after a Reiki session.
Tell me more about myself.
And I was like, well, that'snot really the point of Reiki.
The point of Reiki is really toget out of our heads same with
breathwork to stay in the body,to be in a state of peace.
I don't analyze, I don'tdiagnose with Reiki, but with

(35:44):
Akashic.
This is a call to be able toanswer questions that are on the
heart, that are on the mind.
So literally anything thatkeeps you up at night, the thing
that's never getting better, Ilike to say, is a really good
prompt.
What's the thing that's nevergetting better?
What's the thing that keeps youup at night?
What's the thing that'sbreaking your heart?

(36:04):
What's the thing that keeps youup at night?
What's the thing that'sbreaking your heart?
What's the thing that you justcan't quite figure out?
What Akashic record readingscan do, whether you're doing it
for yourself and Thane with Rake, you can learn to do it for
yourself first and then you canlearn to read other people is.
It gives us access to aperspective.
You can imagine yourself in anairplane looking down.

(36:26):
It gives you this zoomed outperspective of your life, of
your soul.
It gives you the soul leveltruth of the situation.
So, as opposed to thatstrategizing mind or that coming
from that fear space, it givesus a perspective that oftentimes

(36:52):
is very much in alignment withour common sense and our
intuition and there's an overlap, but oftentimes it can be a
perspective that we never wouldhave understood or seen until
we're like 10 years out or maybeever.
But what it is is it's aperspective that is offered to

(37:12):
you through your team on theother side.
So masters, teachers, lovedones the other side helping you
to access this very same withReiki loving, unconditionally,
loving energy perspective.
So imagine the most loving,caring parent that loved you

(37:37):
unconditionally.
That's what these but thatdon't have any sort of their own
human block or obstacles, thatthey're viewing you through.
This is like a God energy, ifyou will.
This is an unconditionallyloving perspective that you can
tap into and access throughasking questions.

(38:01):
So there is a prayer.
There's always, with everythingI teach, there's a grounding
and running our energy.
That's the foundation forliterally everything I teach.
But this is literally.
What you were talking aboutbefore is it's all from the
heart.
It's all like we see the truthfrom the heart, we see the

(38:21):
furthest from the heart.
So this is really a pathwayprayer to access the heart, and
then again intention, and soanyone, any lay person, can
learn to open their Akashicrecords.
It used to be for specialpeople and now it's really

(38:42):
become same with Reiki, A lot ofthese things.
It was like special people andnow actually, no, we can all.
We can all do this.
When you say special people, youmean people who have more like
attuned A monk, a high priest,okay, Someone who's like, oh
yeah, we go through them to getour wisdom, but now we're really

(39:02):
taking out the middleman, andnow it's really a time we've
shifted into a time, a paradigmshift, into a time of we have
the power, we have the access,and it's not it's not a ego
space, it's a.
If you're coming from pureintention, if you're coming from
the heart, and if you're usingthese structures, these

(39:23):
practices, and if you're usingthese structures, these
practices, you're trained bysomeone who knows how to teach
you, then yes, yeah, you cantotally do this.
It's pretty wild, and a lot oftimes people perceive in various
ways.
There's a lot of different waysthat we perceive, and so what I
teach people is how do youperceive?

(39:44):
And I teach you the distinctionbetween what is your intuition
and what is the Akashic realm.
Now here's the other aspect ofthe Akashic is that, just like
we were talking about with Reiki, the energy that everything's
made up of, anything that isalive, has an energy field, has
a plasma, so there's like a thinplasma, and that plasma

(40:06):
surrounding everything isrecording at all times, just
like we're recording right now.
That plasma is recording and soit knows there's a wisdom.
It understands everything Inthe Akashic.
There's no time, there's nopast, there's no future.
It's just all here, all now.
We're just.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
It's everything's happening right now, but I love
that I'd like to stay here for awhile get a few things done and
then return Well, but you cantap into this plasma of
information.
Okay, yes, let's talk aboutwhat it looks like.
How do you do an Akashicrecording?

(40:46):
How do you actually do one?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
An Akashic record reading.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Yeah, an Akashic record reading.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
I don't love just for the record, pun intended.
I don't love the name recordreading, because I think it
conjures up images of a filesystem or a library.
People think it is, theyassociate it with it, but really
there's no actual technicallibrary of information.

(41:20):
It's just one way to kind ofunderstand from our human
perspective.
But what it looks like from theoutside is just two people
having a conversation.
So think of like a therapysession, but from a spiritual
perspective.
So I liken it to like spiritualtherapy.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Oh, I like that and I love this idea of you're
tapping into the guides from Idon't know what the right
wording here is, siri, so guideme on this one From the other
side Pride right From the otherrealm, from that place before we
are now here that I always callit like the nowhere right.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
The invisible.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, dwayne Dyer used to talk about it At one
point.
You were not here, you werenowhere, and now you're now here
.
Oh, I love it.
Yes, Going back to the nowhere,and it's a matter of spacing.
If you look at it nowhere priorto here.
Now here it's spelled the exactsame way.
The only difference is spacing,and I was like that is a

(42:29):
brilliant way to talk about thefact that we move through space.
We transition through spacethroughout our journey because
we all know that we're spiritualbeings having a human
experience.
This just happens to be thehuman experience part that we're
in right now, but there'll be atime when we're no longer here,

(42:50):
we're in the nowhere again, andwhatever you call that next
realm, and we know from sciencethat energy cannot be destroyed.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Oh, what are?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
we, we're just energy , we're always energy.
It's never destroyed, it justbecomes energy again.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, we transition to a different form, exactly.
So, okay, first of all, how didyou get into that first?
How did you learn this, and wasthere a defining moment for you
?
Yeah, said, oh.
I don't want to just experiencethat, I want to be able to

(43:26):
actually conduct Akashic recordreadings for others.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah.
So I was accidentally tappinginto it when I was doing Reiki,
which I later learned while Iwas teaching a Reiki class.
Oh, one of the symbols that youteach in the second degree
Reiki.
The third symbol is the accesspoint to the Akashic realm.
I didn't know that for yearsand then I was like, oh,
connecting the dots, so I wasaccidentally accessing it.

(43:52):
But a friend of mine who's anAkashic teacher that learned
from like the mother, if youwill, of the Akashic who really
brought it to the forefront DrLinda Howe, who I interviewed on
my podcast.
She is one of her top students.
This woman, helen Bonderheid,who I've also interviewed and
she's lovely.
She was starting to do a Pashakrecord readings on me while I

(44:13):
was giving her Reiki readings.
We traded back and forth.
I thought, oh, that's sointeresting what she's doing,
let's try it, I'll try it and Ijust loved it.
It was like, ooh, it's betterthan a psychic reading, because
it's not.
Psychic.
Readings often come from a fearspace and are sort of

(44:34):
predictory, and predictionsaren't always true because we
have a million access points toour future based on every
decision that we're making inthis very moment.
Right, so it's all free will.
So, as opposed to a psychicreading, which is fun, this is

(44:54):
like even better.
This is like, oh, wow, what areall the possibilities that are
here laid out in front of me?
I loved it and I knew and I'msure you've had these moments,
michelle, where you just likeknow, when you're experiencing
something, that you're going toteach it.
You start learning from someoneand you're like I'm going to be
teaching this, you just going toteach it.
You start learning from someoneand you're like I'm going to be
teaching this.
You just kind of feel it.

(45:14):
I knew, as soon as I starteddoing these trades with her and
I was getting these Akashicrecord reading sessions with her
, I was like I'm going to teachthis, so I can just tell.
And then I did.
I took courses from her andtrained and practiced, and
practiced and practiced.
I do like seven Akashic recordreadings a day.
I mean, once I love somethingI'm like right, I'm in it all

(45:37):
the way.
And so for like eight and ahalf years now, I've been giving
readings and people have themost incredible, incredible
experiences and I get to seethem be relieved of these lower
vibrations we're going to do oneof these you and I, we're going

(45:58):
to havea it's pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
And then I will report back to everyone, because
while I've experienced Reikiand I've experienced breathwork
in many different forms of youknow through different teachers,
I've done it in Akashic recordreading.
So I'm very curious to learnmore and experience it firsthand
so I can talk more about it.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
The other thing that's really cool, michelle,
I'll just tell you, is, onceyou've done one, that's not like
for life.
You get to come back and domore, with anyone you want to,
obviously, and update yourAkashic records.
So literally everything forwardand backwards gets to be
updated vibrationally afteryou're reading.
There's like a up level.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
What's one of the insights that you learned from?
I'm assuming that, becauseyou're a teacher of Akashic,
well you're an actualpractitioner of Akashic record
reading that you also get yourAkashic record reading done for
yourself periodically.
What's maybe an insight thatyou've gleaned from one of yours

(47:04):
that has shaped your path thatyou can share with us so that
people have a betterunderstanding of the tangible
insights that are gleaned fromthese experiences?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, well, I actually.
It's interesting.
I actually don't have anAkashic record reading
practitioner that I go to.
Okay, because I can access itfor myself.
You can do it for yourself,okay, I love that.
That's the first thing youlearn.
So, but when I'm teachingAkashic record reading, that is

(47:35):
when I learn the most, and soone of the most profound
experiences that I've led peoplethrough and I've led myself
through, and also when I waslearning, there's a couple
things.
One, when I was learningAkashic record reading for the
first time, a profoundexperience was seeing a past
life, and it was very humblingand what you get to see is the

(48:01):
other side of.
We all, pretty much as souls,get to see both sides of all
situations, so we might bereally poor in one life and then
we're rich in the next.
For example, I got to see asituation where I was not a good
person in a past life, and thatwas very interesting, gave me a
lot of perspective.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
Hard to imagine knowing who you are and how you
show up in this realm, uh well,thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
You know we're, yeah, we all get to learn and and, so
that was profound.
And then the so many profoundexperiences.
But the other profound thingthat I've taken from Akashic
record reading is I really likebringing people through.
This might sound a littlespooky, but an end-of-life
experience.
So you actually I walk you verygently, very safely, very

(48:53):
softly through a beautiful,positive end-of-life experience
while you're in your akashic,with your akashic records open
when I'm teaching, and I thinkthat is so profound because it's
just so healing to have thatperspective on our life from

(49:15):
that vantage point and toviscerally feel all guides.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I think that that's such a a profound way to see it
because we so often are so blackand white in the way we
experience our reality and ouryou know again, I say that with
quotes around our reality, ofour perception of what is real
for us in any given moment.
That just sounds transformative.
But okay, let's talk to theskeptics out there who might be

(49:44):
like this feels very esotericall of the maybe the three
different modalities that we'vebeen talking about, yeah, of
maybe the three differentmodalities that we've been
talking about.
Just a little more esoteric,how would you help to demystify
it for them and talk about howit could maybe help somebody
who's at the crossroads of?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Well, this is what I want to say about skepticism.
I want to say, first of all,it's so healthy, I encourage it.
Please be skeptical, becauseotherwise we're in trouble.
I think it's great.
I think it's great to askquestions, I think it's great to
be curious.
You do not have to be a quotesbeliever in any of these things

(50:25):
in Reiki and breathwork andAkashic record reading to enjoy
the benefit of any of them.
You certainly don't have tobelieve in Reiki to feel the
feelings, the benefits.
What is required is a curiosityand a little enough of an open
mind to say let me try this Like, let me try a new food for the

(50:49):
first time.
I'm going to try oysters forthe first time.
I mean just the curiosity whatdoes this taste like?
That's all that's required.
I don't think you can figure outany of these things I'm talking
about with reading a book, oryes, books are wonderful and I

(51:10):
love them and they're helpful,but at the end of the day,
they're all experiential.
So enough of a curiosity,enough of a crack of an open
mind to say let me see what thiscould feel like.
And what I will say is the moreopen that we are to experiences
, the more possibility.

(51:31):
We invite in to have a newexperience.
So, yes, it is energeticallyexpensive to have a new
experience and also those arethe most life-changing things.
That we can do is to openourselves up to the rewiring.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
But hold on, let's not go too far, because I want
to just break down what you justsaid.
Yes, energetically expensive tohave a new experience.
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So we have our neural pathways that are set.
We decide things, we categorizethem in our mind.
I'm sure you've talked aboutthis a lot on the podcast.
It's like our body does notwant to expend more energy than
it needs to.
That's what I mean by expensive, right?
So it is expensive to create anew neural pathway because it

(52:22):
takes energy, it takes calories.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
It takes calories To break out of the experience that
we've been going through.
Where we get?
We talk about the routines ofour lives, the experiences we've
already been having to breakout of.
That is what you're talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Okay, just to clarify to think a new thought, to have
a new paradigm shift.
To have a breakthrough, we needto be able to create a new
neural pathway.
We need to have a newexperience.
That can be scary and it can bequotes energetically expensive
because it takes calories to dothat.

(52:58):
It takes a little bit ofcourage.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
I think, though, we're talking in this particular
audience, which is thiswonderful, very curious, highly
attuned group of people who maynot be as fully versed on these,
so this is a phenomenalfundamentals masterclass that
you're giving us right now, butI do think they all hold such

(53:26):
high regard for curiosity andlearning that there's going to
be just an interest to learnmore and to experience more.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, I think, I think you get to be surprised.
Like you explained in thebreathwork session that you had
at the retreat, you were willingenough, you were courageous
enough to show up for that Some.
Some part of Michelle was ready.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Oh, 100 percent, I'll try anything.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
And therefore you got to have this incredibly wild,
visceral experience that you'llnever be the same A hundred
percent and I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I'm going to talk a little bit.
We had another friend, a mutualfriend, that was in this and I
think it's fair, it's importantfor us to talk about little bit
that.
We had another friend, a mutualfriend, that was in this and I
think it's fair it's importantfor us to talk about, like all
different experiences.
He was like I've donebreathwork before, I don't want
to do this again.
Every time I do breathwork it'svery emotional and she was just
not having any of it, sure, andthen she was the one that was

(54:31):
probably the that moved theneedle the most during that
session.
That's right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Well, I mean, it's hard to compare experiences
because everyone had such adramatic experience.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Everyone had their own level of breakthrough.
But yeah, we all kind of werelike whoa, the person that was
like not going to do it, I don'twant to feel it.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
I've gone through it before and we're all like okay,
and we know that what's on theother side of any of that
resistance is just a watershedexperience.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
It was amazing and it just brought everybody you know
.
So, for those of you listening,you had to imagine there were
10 of us listening.
You had to imagine there were10 of us.
12 of us were around there.
So imagine a dozen womentogether and Siri is
facilitating this group.
We're kind of in like a yogastudio-esque space, on mats,

(55:24):
going through the breath work, aguided visualization,
experiencing hands-on healingthrough Reiki that she was
administering, and it was solife-giving that, the bond that
you feel with people who werenot entirely strangers to begin

(55:44):
with, but most of us haven'tspent time together in person,
and so we were newly that timetogether in person, and so we
were newly acquainted in personalthough we've all been in
contact for a long time now,virtually through Zoom and video
conference and what have youand it just brought us all
together at a much deeper heartlevel of collaboration and ask

(56:08):
me anything, I'll tell you aboutmy experience a level of being
able to be vulnerable and feelsafe.
People told their life storiesin ways that you can't even
imagine, because when you walkin, everybody's so put together
and everyone's very successfulin their own right and you sort
of then just check all of thatkind of stuff at the door and

(56:31):
you come in as your soul selfinto a space like this and you
really are seeing past theexternal shell of each of these
individual women, right straightto the soul.
And it was such a beautifulexperience.
I think we all came away, andobviously Siri came away with
great ideas, because now she'sdoing these phenomenal retreats

(56:53):
now pretty regularly.
Thank you, she's sparked a fullmovement, so kudos.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
It was very encouraging and very inspiring.
Having that breathwork sessionwith you, michelle, was like a
light bulb went off and I went.
I can't be doing this on Zoomanymore.
I got to do this in person now.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Yeah, it was transformative.
It really was All right.
I want to talk a little bitabout something that you say a
lot.
It's in a lot of your.
You talk about it on thepodcast, talk about it with your
business, but you talk abouthelping people expand their
capacity to feel good, and Iwanted to focus in on that.

(57:35):
I love that phrase, first ofall, and why do you think that
it's so hard for high performers, for high achievers, for
entrepreneurs, for businessleaders, to allow themselves to
feel good?
And what happened when theyfinally do?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
I want to say as humans, I think it's hard, and
that includes high performers,high achievers.
I think as humans, regardless,it is challenging for us to
allow ourselves to ride theroller coaster of life, to fully
feel anything, because when Isay feel good, I think that

(58:21):
sounds like potentially, I'msaying let's just be happy all
the time and feeling good now.
For me, the definition of thatincludes the catharsis, it
includes the crying, it includesthe fear, it includes a fully
alive life, a fully aliveexperience, a fully sensational

(58:45):
experience.
So expanding our capacity tofeel is probably more accurate
than to just feel good.
But for me, it feels good tofeel, to feel all of it, and
that, even though a lot of usare so deathly scared to feel
all of it, for very good reason,when we allow ourselves to feel

(59:10):
all of it, those are themoments we do remember at the
end of our life that flashbefore us are the heightened
moment of I felt all the love,or I felt all the sorrow, I felt
all the joy.
Or I rode that literal rollercoaster and I felt all the fear.
I rode that literal rollercoaster and I felt all the fear.

(59:36):
So the reason that we don't wantto feel all of it is.
It's a lot to process for oursystem, for our nervous system.
Our mind, our ego is veryscared because predictable is
safe.
So survival brain is likesafety, safety, safety, safety,
safety, safety.
Well, what's safe?
Safe is safe.
So survival brain is likesafety, safety, safety, safety,
safety, safety.
Well, what's safe?
Safe is predictable.
Feeling all of it is quite wild.

(59:57):
It is not predictable, butthat's what our soul truly wants
.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
And I have this conversation a lot with my
coaching clients who are so hardon themselves because they're
like well, I don't understand.
Why wouldn't I want to expand?
Why do I feel this inertia?
Why do I feel this resistance?
I have to remind them, first ofall, it's not your fault Like
we are forward wired at a brainlevel to regard safety as part

(01:00:28):
of our survival, not tonaturally want expansion into
the unknown.
That's overriding the system.
You see, you've got to reallythink about it as you're
stepping outside of the norm,when you take a leap of faith,
when you start a new chapter,when you decide to do something

(01:00:50):
new because it's a brave thingto do, not a why can't I do more
of this and be hard on yourselfabout it?
But you have to remind yourselfwe are just not hardwired as
humans to behave that wayinnately, until we make these
intentional, conscious choicesto do so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, and if you think about every experience
you've ever had that was eitherjoyful or scary or heartbreaking
, your system remembers that,your body remembers that and it
is like never again, never again.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
Me and every roller coaster that ever has been in my
life.
Never again, never again, neveragain.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
And that is like the number one motivator of most of
our lives.
Yeah, is the never again.
This is why people becomebillionaires is because never
again will I feel so scared.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Yeah, the fear of not having, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Right.
So I think that never againregisters so deeply.
I know it registers so deeplyin our systems that, just like
you said, it is not our fault.
But expanding our capacity tofeel good is a body job.
It's a subconscious andunconscious job and that is
we've got to address from thebody, from the root, from the

(01:02:11):
source.
And we've also hopefully, ifyou're ready and willing,
addressing soul, addressingspirit, giving ourselves that
zoomed out perspective from thesoul level, so that we're not
stuck in Groundhog Day, becausethat obviously is what we're

(01:02:33):
going to get if we're just inour survival brain, in our
survival body.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
And we are not here just to survive.
We are here to thrive and havemultiple different experiences.
Know, the idea of going back tofull self-expression, full
ability to feel all thedifferent things that humans are
able to feel and to live onthat level is so different and

(01:03:02):
so unique and, quite frankly,it's why we do the work we do to
really help people to fullycome alive.
There are too many peoplewalking around on autopilot.
We don't need more of that.
We need more people fullyembodying who they are and what
they came here to do, and so,through the activation of some

(01:03:22):
of these energy healingmodalities, through coaching,
through a variety of differenttools that you have available to
you, this is really aboutgetting to that next level of
fully living.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, and what I'll say just to wrap up is it's
really hard to make thesechanges in our daily lives,
because everything around us andinside of us reminds us of the
same old, same old.
And so when we step out, likeyou did for our Goddess of Light
retreat, and when people stepout and they do something
different outside of theirnatural, normal environment,

(01:03:58):
that is the opportunity torewire those systems, to create
a new neural pathway.
That then is now there.
So the nervous system builds onitself.
So you don't have to go back tozero Now.
You've gone to 20.
You can build from there.
So, I think it's so importantfor us to step out of our daily
lives and have these retreatexperiences, so I'm just

(01:04:20):
incredibly honored and excitedthat you brought me on to talk
about all of these quotes, woomodalities and to just give
people kind of a baseline ofcuriosity.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
It's important to say look, I come from 25 years of
hard news business.
I was in the business world fora really long time before I
took the leap intoentrepreneurism, and energy
healing was a fairly new thingfor me up until about five years
ago and then, since then, it'sbeen like high charged and high

(01:04:55):
activated, as the more we learnabout how we are all energy,
well, then you dive into itbecause you're like well, look,
this is the life force of allthings.
Let's learn more and let's domore.
So I would say I walked intothat retreat experience knowing
that I had no idea what wasgoing to go down.
I was part of it and I knew Iwas going to be helping to

(01:05:20):
facilitate parts of it, but alsoas purely another woman looking
to connect with community,stepping out of my norm, which
is more coaching and traditionalcoaching, into this other realm
of going.
Okay, I'm curious, what can wedo together and what am I
willing to allow myself toexperience?

(01:05:42):
And I think it's so importantto do that, to kind of push the
envelope, because then yourealize, oh, it wasn't actually
so different, as it was invitingand welcoming and a remembering
and much more familiar than Iexpected it to be, and I think
that's really important forpeople I know there are a lot of

(01:06:03):
you out there who are businessleaders and are coming from the
corporate world or newlytransitioned into the
entrepreneurial space and don'thave as much exposure to this as
we do and certainly as Siridoes to just get curious,
because it's in that curiositythat the magic happen.

(01:06:25):
I loved every minute of it.
I can't wait to go do anotherone.
What I would love for you to do, siri, before we wrap, is tell
people where they can find you,and then also I want you to tell
them a little bit about whatyou have coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Thank you, siri at sageandblushwellnesscom, or
sageandblushwellnesscom, siriBerg Thornton, on any socials.
What I've got coming up is afirst and second degree Reiki
certification retreat at my home, july 21st to the 23rd.
I've never done this before.
After 26 years, I am combiningfor the first time ever, first

(01:07:04):
and second degree Reikicertification into one immersive
retreat experience.
It's going to be incredible.
It's going to be fully catered,so nourishing.
There's some incredible soulsthat are coming.
I have two spots left andthey're probably going to go
soon, so literally like thedoors are closing, maybe by the
time you've heard this, butplease reach out to me and I'll

(01:07:24):
let you know.
Beyond that, I have about fourretreat coming up, so this has
become like the full passion isgetting in person with people to
have these deep transformations.
There's nothing like being inperson in sisterhood.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
That's just the best.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
So, yeah, you can.
You can get in touch with meand I'll tell you what the
opportunities are and all ofthem are.
I've partnered with this woman,marnay of Bastion, which is
this incredible restaurant inPortland Oregon, and so we're
doing these retreats together.
So she does like organic,vegetarian, gluten-free,
incredible food.
So you'll be fully nourishedbody, mind, soul.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I love it All right.
Well, we'll definitely have thelinks to all of that in the
show notes, so please check itout.
Go find Siri and do not forgetshe also has a podcast, the
Authentic Creative.
You can find it on AppleSpotify anywhere you get your
podcast.
But thank you again, siri.
It's always a pleasure to bewith you.

(01:08:28):
I just really appreciate youtaking us down this road of
energy healing and talking usthrough these modalities and
explaining really what they areand how they can help us and
improve our lives in so manydifferent ways for people who
may not be as familiar with them.
So thank you again for yourtime for your energy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Thank you, Michelle.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
I really just adore you.
I adore you and I'm excitedabout all the things you're
doing and I cannot wait to seewhat's next.
Thank you so much.
Okay, everyone, until next time, go and live your extraordinary
life time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Go and live your extraordinary life.
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