January 14, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode Rebecca Whitman, a standout figure in the world of life coaching and entrepreneurship, shares her transformative journey from corporate entertainment to empowering women globally.
Discover her unique Seven Pillars of Abundance, a framework she developed to guide women away from burnout towards balance and prosperity. Her mission? To help women redefine success beyond mere financial achievement and embrace a well-rounded life of freedom and choice. By exploring the Seven Pillars of Abundance—spirituality, emotions, fitness, romance, mindset, social connections, and finances—Rebecca empowers listeners to step from a space of scarcity to one of flourishing fulfillment.
Rebecca also shares her insights on overcoming limiting beliefs, especially the daunting fear of being alone, by introducing her transformative four A's method. Tune in to discover how you can enrich your life with balance, beauty, and abundance.
In this episode, we explore:
• Significance of spirituality in daily practices
• The impact of emotions on abundance and gratitude
• Health as wealth and the importance of fitness
• Reframing money as a playful energy rather than a stressor
• Strategies for overcoming feelings of despair and stagnation
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Live your
Extraordinary Life podcast.
I'm your host, michelle Rios,and today we have an incredibly
inspiring guest who embodieswhat it means to live your
extraordinary life.
Rebecca Whitman is on a missionto help transform women from
burned out to balanced,beautiful and abundant, and I
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couldn't be happier to have herhere on the show today.
Through her groundbreakingSeven Pillars of Abundance,
rebecca has guided countlesswomen out of toxic relationships
to magnetize their soulmates atany stage of their life and
transition from unfulfillingjobs and careers to living with
purpose and profitability, whichis really important.
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So she's the creator of the SixFigure Side Hustle Program, a
bestselling author of threebooks on business and mindset
and the award-winning host ofBalance, beautiful and Abundant
podcast.
She's been recognized as thenumber one life coach and
Empowered Women of the Year bythe International Association of
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Top Professionals.
Rebecca is, without a doubt, atrue force of empowerment.
So, without further ado,rebecca, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you, Michelle.
It's so great to be here.
I had so much fun meeting youon that panel and we just really
connected and had such a greatconversation and I can't wait to
have you on my podcast later inthe week.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I cannot wait.
So, for those of you who maybedidn't catch it, rebecca and I
met a few months back.
We were on a Creating WealthSummit and there were so many
synergies.
We couldn't help but go okay,we need to talk, we need to know
each other and we need to seewhere we can work together and
help really spread the message,because there's just so much
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that we do that is in common.
So we're going to start where Istart, with all my guests,
rebecca, and that's with aquestion what does it mean to
you to live your extraordinarylife?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
To me, an extraordinary life means freedom
the freedom to do what I want,when I want, where I want and
with whom I want.
And when I have freedom, thatmeans I have choices and choices
are power.
When you feel stuck, that meansyou feel like you've run out of
choices and I want to feel justfree and expansive and like I
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have choices and that makes mylife feel extraordinary.
Just deciding on a whim if Iwant to like pick up and take a
vacation and work from my phone,that kind of freedom and
flexibility is everything.
I call it financial flexibility, not financial freedom, because
it is freedom, but it's alsojust flexibility and in this
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high-tech era it's so easy justto just pick up and do business
from your phone.
So that's what an extraordinarylife is adventure and freedom
and expansion.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I love that.
I love it.
Okay.
So I want to go back a littlebit and have you tell us a bit
of the backstory on how youbecame an entrepreneur, because
this wasn't always the case, butyou have been doing it, and
doing it in a way that I thinkreally serves as a new model,
kind of, I think, opposite of alot of the hustle and grind
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culture that we hope is startingto move away from.
We all know we have to workhard and we need to be
disciplined and dedicated to notonly our business but our
spiritual lives, our health, allof the things and we're going
to get back into the sevenpillars of abundance in a minute
but could you tell us a littlebit about your journey?
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How did you even get to thispoint where we're talking about
financial flexibility andfreedom?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
So I graduated from PrincetonUniversity.
I wanted to work in theentertainment industry as a
corporate.
On the corporate side, theytold me, well, you're going to
have to work for free as anintern.
And I was like what I signed upfor, like making a ton of money
.
That's why I went to an Ivyleague school.
So I said I'm just going to bean actress, they're going to
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make all the money.
So I started taking actingclasses.
I answered an ad in New Yorkcity about becoming a
millionaire in five years doingnetwork marketing.
I bought it hook line andsinker.
So I was on.
For the next five and a halfyears I lived in about 20 cities
, opening offices all over theMidwest and the Eastern United
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States for this networkmarketing company.
We used to work in offices andI learned a lot about direct
sales, management, leadership,all the things.
And I ended up in a very toxicrelationship with somebody who
was selling cars.
So we sold cars together inJacksonville, florida and then
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we ended up.
And then we ended up.
It was, there was a humongousfight and I was able to find an
internet startup company and theinternet startup company paid
me very well.
It went out of business.
But I had a huge amount in mychecking account for my age I
think I had like 40 grand inchecking and I was like if I
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don't move, if I don't move toLA and pursue acting, I never
will.
So I moved to LA to pursueacting.
I had small parts on big showslike Friends, csi and 24.
I never did catch that bigbreak and while I was
auditioning I started working atchildren's acting schools,
which I really loved because Idon't have kids and I had a very
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flexible schedule while thekids were at school.
That's when I started studyingthe law of attraction with
brilliant thought leaders likeMichael Beckwith, esther Hicks,
wayne Dyer, louise Hay, marianWilliamson.
I started applying it to myfinancial life.
Before I knew it, I was makingsix figures working part-time.
Then I tried to apply it to mylove life, but not so
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successfully.
I was in the habit of going foremotionally unavailable,
narcissistic men and trying tochange them.
What a fun hobby.
So I decided to marry one.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like so many women Like so many women.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yes, and it was exhausting and I decided to
marry one.
He it got worse more fighting,more toxicity.
So I filed for divorce and itjust so happened that, as my
marriage was slowly andpainfully unraveling, my dad was
slowly and painfully dying backin Ohio, where I'm from.
And in my last conversationwith my dad he said I think you
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should write a book.
And I had no idea what to writeabout.
A few months later, my dad hadpassed away and my marriage had
been dissolved and I was sittingacross the desk from my
financial planner and he saidRebecca, even though you had
your hardest year everfinancially, you are emotionally
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, you are financially, aself-made millionaire this year
and I think you should write abook and empower people to do
what you did.
So I wrote a book called how toMake a Six-Figure Income
Working Part-Time, and in thebook I divide life into seven
key areas, which I call my sevenpillars of abundance, and when
you have these seven areas ofyour life aligned, you can be,
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do or have anything you want.
And that is the story of how Igot to be doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, that's a perfect segue.
We got to get into the sevenpillars.
All right, Rebecca, let's talkabout what are the seven pillars
of abundance and talk to us alittle bit about why you think
it's essential that all of theseareas I think of this kind of
like the life wheel.
Do you remember the life wheel?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's Tony Robbins right.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, this is really the essentials of like what
you're filling out and howyou're focusing on these
different aspects of your life.
Let's talk about first whatthey are and why these in
particular.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I went to a sales training when I was in my 20s,
doing the network marketingcompany that I was in, and they
talked about goal setting in sixkey areas.
And I added an area romanticbecause, like I said before, I
was romantically challenged.
Then, in studying the law ofattraction, I learned the power
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of affirmations.
So I came up with a signaturemethod of how to create
affirmations and all sevenpillars of abundance, and that
is how they came to be andthey're in order of importance.
So the first one isspirituality.
It's all about connecting withthe divine in the morning,
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having a morning practice whichincludes prayer, meditation.
I'm all about journaling.
I have an incredible journalpractice that I have not missed
a day for 35 years.
I met this woman when I was ateenager, in a 12-step group,
and she gave me this amazingjournal framework that I've been
doing.
That has completely changed mythinking from negative to
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positive and helped me justlearn from my wins, learn from
my failures, learn from otherpeople on their journey.
So I'm actually, with yourpermission, would love to give
that journal to your guests, toyour listeners, as a just
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, let's make sure we talk about it, but also I'll
link to it in the show notes.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So spirituality comes first.
The second is emotions.
All emotions come from scarcityor abundance.
We think there's not enough ofwhatever we want not enough time
, not enough energy, not enoughmoney, not enough love, not
enough clients, not enough likesor comments on our social or
abundance.
I have plenty of time, I haveplenty of money, I have plenty
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of energy, I have plenty ofclients, plenty of love, plenty
of visibility.
So it's all about switchingfrom scarcity to abundance and
the fastest way to do that isthrough a gratitude practice.
The next pillar of abundance isfitness, and fitness is so
important because health iswealth.
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I mean, I know, when we had ourconversation, michelle, we
talked a lot about your burningout and your health, you know,
was at risk.
Even though you were likecrushing your burning out and
your health was at risk.
Even though you were crushingyour goals financially, your
health was at risk.
So if you don't have yourhealth, you don't have anything,
because health is wealth.
If you have your health, youhave every financial opportunity
in the world, every romanticopportunity available to you.
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But if you're in a bed andyou're sick, obviously all your
choices, all your freedom, allyour expansion that I talked
about, living an extraordinarylife that all goes away.
So health is everything.
So I believe in body beforebusiness and schedule your
meetings and your day aroundyour workouts.
The next pillar is romance, andI believe you attract who you
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are, not who you want.
So that's why it's so importantto do the other things first,
to be spiritually high vibe, toswitch your emotional life from
scarcity to abundance.
To feel strong, sexy andconfident in your body so that
you attract someone that is amatch for the healthier version
of you.
I've helped a lot of women exittoxic relationships and I tell
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people if it doesn't lift you upand support you and serve you,
then walk away.
There's no such thing as aneutral relationship or a
neutral energy.
Someone's either supporting youand building you up or they're
detracting from you.
The next pillar of abundanceafter romance is mindset, and
that's what you guys are doingright now, listening to
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Michelle's amazing ExtraordinaryLife podcast.
You're working on your mindset.
So mindset means learningsomething, whether it's a
podcast, an audible, learning arecipe, taking a class, learning
a sport, even crossword puzzles.
Anything that grows your mindAfter mindset is social, and I
feel that after COVID hit, somany people lost that aspect and
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that desire.
People got so isolated andthat's why there's been an
epidemic of depression, drugaddiction, suicide.
People are just at home hidingbehind their technology.
I encourage my clients to joinnetworking groups, go back to
live events.
Facebook groups are great too,but if you can find a way to go
to in-person events, there's somuch magic that happens in
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community.
And finally, the seventh pillaris financial.
And when most people think,well, you're an abundance mentor
, they think you're a financialcoach, but to me, abundance.
Think you're a financial coach,but to me, abundance is all
these areas of life.
When you have your spirituallife, you're physically fit,
you're in love with yoursoulmate, you have friends, you
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are going to attract more moneywith ease and grace.
Money is important.
Like you said, I don't tellpeople just to sit home and like
pray and meditate.
It's all about being verydeliberate with your time
management and your schedule.
I believe that people shouldhave at least three streams of
income and not quit their job tostart their side hustle.
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So those are some of myfinancial philosophies.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I love that.
Yeah, you know my financialphilosophies.
I love that.
Yeah, you know, you and I wereon this panel and we talked a
lot about the energy behindmoney and frequency, and that's
such an important piece for mebecause, you know, as you
mentioned, I was making a verygenerous salary and was
traveling the world, had thelarge teams, had the status, but
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I was also incredibly drainedand it was taking a huge toll on
my family life.
I've been married for 20 yearsbut we always talk about the
fact that I was sleepwalkingthrough a large part of that
because I was burned out and youjust can't show up as your best
self when you're in that mode.
So for me, this idea of gettingto this totality of wealth a
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true wealth, a holistic view onwealth is so important and it's
really sort of the centerpieceof the book I'm writing and
really going to the grid of it.
We got to let go of some ofthese old school thinking and
beliefs around what it means tohave made it or be successful,
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and out of this place of likevalidating our existence by
hustling and working harder andwaiting for the next thing that
we can check off our list to saywe've done it Look what I've
done.
I'm somehow validated in thisand get to a place where we are
really grounded in the thingsthat matter.
So thank you so much forsharing that.
I think it's so important.
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You mentioned affirmations, andI know there are a lot of people
.
I start like you.
I start every day with my ownjournaling, and I'm a big
believer that if anything isgoing to happen, I need to
actually not only say it outloud but write it down, because
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if I don't write it down and ifI don't kind of bring it to be
in that space, it's in theabstract and it's much harder to
bring about, it's much harderto manifest and I don't have the
mechanics.
Usually a lot of my I always saymy brain stream of thinking
around journaling is just a lotof.
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It is brainstorming sometimesof like new ideas and new
pathways and you don't even knowyou're doing it and you're like
, oh wait, that's the thing thatI need to go do next.
But I get a lot of folks attimes questioning do
affirmations really work?
I say them, I say them, I talka lot about embodiment around it
.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson affirmations and maybe how
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you've evolved your affirmationpractice, how it's changed over
time.
Can you share a little bit moreabout what you do and how you
approach it?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, and I understand affirmations don't
work if you truly don't believethat it's going to happen.
So let's say that you have alimiting belief around your love
life, right, and you reallythink that you're going to be
alone which is one from my bookhow to Make a Six-Figure Income
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Working Part-Time.
I am magically and passionatelyin love with my soulmate.
So if you don't believe that'sgoing to happen, you can say I
am magically and passionately inlove with my soulmate a million
times a day.
But if you don't believe it'sgoing to happen, it's not going
to happen.
It can't erase yoursubconscious programming.
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So that's why it's so important, before you do affirmations, to
look at your limiting beliefsand to really examine them.
So the limiting belief thatwe're discussing here is I just
I miss the boat.
You know all the good guys arealready taken right, I'm going
to end up alone.
That's the limiting belief.
So it's good to reallydismantle that and be like well,
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what if you did end up alone?
And would it be the worst lifeever?
And you know, are you going todie Like?
Just really like dismantle it,because we have these limiting
beliefs that we think are likecatastrophic, but they're not.
And for me before I met mysoulmate catastrophic, but
they're not.
And for me, before I met mysoulmate, I made peace.
I was just like you know.
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I surrendered it.
I'm like God.
If I'm supposed to be alone, Ijust want to be around positive,
cool, high vibe, loving peopleI don't care if they're men,
women, dogs, friends, likewhatever.
Like I had to surrender it anda really deep level and that's
what I think helped bring in mysoulmate.
So I teach the four A's oftransformation.
So the first A is to justaccept where you are, like okay,
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I'm believing that all the goodguys are already taken, and
just accept it and not be likewell, I listened to Michelle's
podcast and it's all aboutliving an extraordinary life.
I shouldn't be thinking sonegatively, like no, don't,
don't should on yourself.
Just accept that you have alimiting belief around this
topic.
So the second, the second A isuh, okay, well, the wait.
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The first day is awareness.
I have a limiting belief.
The second A is acceptance notto judge yourself.
The third A is action.
Second A is acceptance not tojudge yourself.
The third A is action.
What action can I take to thatis the opposite.
So can I go on one internetdate a week.
If that's too much, can I go onone internet date a month, okay
?
And then the fourth A isaffirmation.
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And then it's a generalaffirmation, maybe it's not.
I'm magically and passionatelyin love with my soulmate.
Maybe a more general one is youknow, I am enjoying meeting new
people for coffee.
Like just general, and then, asyou get more confident, I'm
going on these internet datesonce a month.
I'm actually enjoying meetingfor coffee.
Then you could go more and morespecific.
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But yeah, if you feel like it'snot working for you, I would do
those things.
Look at your limiting beliefsand then accept yourself and
then be more specific I meanmore general about what you want
, until you start to have someease and some positivity around
that area where you feel stuck.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I love that.
There's something very magical.
I know some people can kind ofgo there more easily and I
suspect, rebecca, you're one ofthem this idea of being able to
suspend disbelief.
I'm the person you want to taketo the movies.
Even if I've seen it seventimes, I'm deeply in for
whatever's happening, I cansuspend disbelief that this is
just a movie.
I feel all the things, and thathelps with affirmations, no
matter where I am on anyparticular day.
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If I am, nope, I'm going to sitwith this and just kind of let
my mind wander and really dreamwhat it is I want to experience
around this and then work myaffirmations around that I'm in
a place of I'll suspend alldisbelief, despite the fact that
seven different ways it didn'twork.
Well, there's got to be aneighth or a ninth, so I'm the
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rider of the tide.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
For that You're amazing, because a lot of people
that have your education andfinance and government policy do
not think so whimsically andoptimistically and hopefully,
about affirmation.
So that's amazing that you havethat.
Affirmations will work a lotfaster for you then, because you
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believe that they can actuallywork and that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I think that that's Gabor Mate.
You know his work, you've heardhis work.
He was on a video that I sawrecently and it's worth talking
about because he's obviouslyincredibly educated.
He went to medical school andhe talks about the Winnie the
Pooh story Christopher Robin,winnie Pooh At one point,
christopher Robbins grows up andsays I can't come play anymore
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and he goes oh, that just movedme to tears and the guy he's
being interviewed by he's likewell, tell me more about that.
He's like because I realized Ihad worked so hard validating my
existence by going to schooland studying and working and
getting the right residency andall this that I lost my
playfulness.
I was like Christopher Robbinsall grown up and yet I let that
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ship sail.
So I had a very similarexperience.
So I had this great connectionwith him because I was like oh
my God, that's the story of mylife.
I had to grow up fast.
I let go of this beingwhimsical as a kid because I had
to get super serious and workhard and get into the right
schools and do the right things.
But here's the great thing, andI think you know this this is
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what the things you teach, itdoesn't matter when you have
your awakening and you haveprobably more than one I'm here
at midlife going, oh, this isthe most magical time because I
was able to go.
Nope, this is time for moreplay.
So I have a 17-year-old, almost18-year-old, who often says I
don't know anybody your age whoacts more like a kid, and to me,
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biggest compliment you can giveme, because I had lost all of
that as a young person, as ayoung adult, as an adolescent,
as a 20 something, even as a 30something, starting a family and
starting to get really seriousabout doing all the things and
building the life.
It took getting into my fortiesand now into my fifties really
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say, oh, no, no, no.
This is a playground, this isthe place where we get to play.
Go, have more fun.
It's a much quicker way thanpushing your way up and pushing
the boulder up the hill of acareer for 30 years which been
there and done that.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You know I think of that's so beautiful.
Thank you for sharing that.
I think of life as a vacation.
You know, when you take avacation, you know it has a
beginning, a middle and an end,and that's kind of like a soul
taking on a body.
It's got a beginning, a middleand an end.
We know we're all going to die,but we always forget that.
But why not have the most funand the most passion and the
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most playfulness and excitementand just good energy while we're
here, because it's going to endanyway?
So why waste our time and fear,doubt and worry when we know
that it's all going to end?
Like just exactly the older,the older I get, the younger I
get in my spirit and I thinkthat's one of my.
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I know we're doing this podcastinterview on January 6th, but I
want to have more playfulnessthis year than I had last year,
because when I take myself tooseriously and it stops being fun
, then what's the point?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I think that that's such an important piece of it.
We get so serious about lifeand forget the fact that we are
spiritual beings having a humanexperience and that the goal
isn't to become the mostsuccessful accumulated wealth
human that ever existed and then, at the end of the day, you get
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like an award on your way ofchecking out of this life.
It's to use up this life, togive out the gifts, to live it
fully, and it's almost likeeveryone missed the memo right,
which is why the work you do isso important.
Hey, we should just have humansborn and be like here you go.
Just remember, you're aspiritual being on a human
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experience, so don't get tootied to this life.
Have some fun with it.
Make sure you're giving awayyour gifts.
That's why you're actually here.
Go have more fun.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Let's talk about spirituality, because I do think
it's such an important piece ofthis entire.
I don't call it puzzle, but Ido often refer to life, an
important piece of this entire.
I don't want to call it puzzle,but I do often refer to life as
a chessboard.
When you start to have theawakening, you go from playing
checkers to playing chess.
So talk to me a little bitabout how you look at
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spirituality and perhaps some ofthe things you do to connect
with the divine source of allthings.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, I am in a constant conversation, all
connect with the divine, sourceof all things.
Yeah, I am in a constantconversation, all day with the
divine and I am just listeningfor insights, downloads, aha
moments.
I'm a total student and seekerand I think my spirituality is
all from humility because when Ithink I already know and I'm
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not open for any like guidanceor signs or directions from
anyone, then that's where mygrowth stops.
So, having a mindset of aseeker and a student and
learning every day, every day isan opportunity to learn and
grow and I can learn fromeveryone, like everybody's a
teacher, whether it'soverhearing a conversation in
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the checkout line at the grocerystore or listening to a line
from a song, or I can learn somuch just from my dog because my
dog is so much in the momentand playful and like doesn't
worry about anything.
I just am a total student and Ithat's.
So having a humble attitude isimportant and then also just
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being grateful.
Happiness is not getting what Iwant, but wanting what I have.
So just having my problems andperspective, and I was like for
a long time in a negative looparound my love life, and it was
when Facebook Messenger firstcame out and remember what you
could message back and forth.
For some reason I connectedwith a monk, like in the
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Himalayas, like I don't know howwe became Facebook friends, but
literally he was like heavensent and I was messaging him
about how upset I was aboutanother bad date or being single
, or how tough it was dating inLA, whatever my gripe was.
And he's like why don't youcompare yourself instead of to
the people that are having whatyou want?
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Why don't you compare yourselfto the billions of people who
don't even have what you have?
Like there's so many people whohave so much less than you.
So I think another part of myspirituality is not to compare
myself, because I call itcompare and despair-ism.
There's always somebody thathas more and if I compare myself
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to them, then I will feel badabout myself.
So if I'm going to comparemyself to myself, like where was
I six months ago or a year agoor 10 years ago on my journey,
or who was I before I started myspiritual transformation and
being more empathetic, so Ithink that is another thing.
And then another part of myspirituality is being in the
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present moment.
So happiness is being here nowand when I'm thinking about the
past, I'm usually in regret orself-recrimination.
I you know what I could haveshould have.
Why didn't I do that, whydidn't I do this?
Like beating myself up.
I'm a recovering perfectionist,so when I'm in the past, I'm
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usually just thinking how Icould have done it better.
When I'm in the future, it'slike oh my God, what's going to
happen?
How's it all going to turn out?
How am I going to pay for this?
How am I going to pay for that?
What's going to happen overthere?
What's going to happen overthere?
It's just like anxiety.
And then, when I just take adeep mindful breath and I feel
my five senses so what am I?
Tasting, touching, feeling,smelling, seeing, hearing brings
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me to the moment.
And then, if I can't groundmyself in the moment, even by
touching your fingers on eachother, that's grounding, because
you're feeling, you're in yoursenses, looking around, looking
at something not made by humanhands.
I mean, we're just we'relooking at your beautiful
snowfall out your window, so I'mlooking at a squirrel play on a
tree.
So looking at something notmade by human hands.
And then, if that's still toooverwhelming, just doing the
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next right thing, like what isthe next right action to get me
to my goals, to get me to mypeace of mind, to get me to
feeling okay in my body.
So just taking the next step,the next step and the next step,
instead of getting so far intothe future that I get
overwhelmed like what is my nextright action All?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
right.
I want to just delve in alittle bit to where sometimes it
happens.
People just get in that stuckmode and they start to go
through that despair loop oflike ugh, things are just hard
right now and I don't see theway out.
I don't know what to do next.
How do you help yourself getout of that mode?
(29:44):
Obviously, grounding and comingback to the present moment's
got to be a really important one.
But when that mind is takingover and that voice inside your
head is going 90 miles a minuteof all the reasons why X isn't
going to work or Y isn't goingto come to be or this should
have happened, and you're therefor a while, how do you snap
(30:07):
back out?
Because I know that I have alot of folks that are listening,
that are dealing with some bigstuff we all do right.
It all comes everyone's like.
How come you're always talkingabout living your extraordinary
life?
It isn't absent of problems orchallenges.
It's how I react to thoseproblems and challenges.
(30:29):
So I want to hear more abouthow you pull yourself out of
those spaces.
How do you help your clientsthat you coach get out of that
space, because it's just so easy?
I've seen a lot of peopledealing with loneliness over the
holidays, financial burdens,illnesses that are not only
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theirs but their loved ones, andthey're just like oh, it just
feels heavy.
We're starting the new yearheavy.
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What really works for me is having the morning
practice that I mentionedwriting in the God Journal.
One of the journal prompts isyou know, how is the worst thing
that is happening actually thebest thing?
Because that just flips it over, because I don't know, like the
big perspective.
I'm sure we can all think ofperiods in our life where we
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were going through a lot ofemotional or physical pain and
we grew tremendously and welearned lessons that we could
not have learned any other way.
And we grow through what we gothrough, and just having that
practice of thinking how is theworst thing in my perspective
actually the best thing thatflips, that's a great way to
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flip it.
Exercise, you know, move amuscle, change a thought.
Just exercise changes yourbiochemistry so much with the
endorphins, the serotonin, thedopamine.
That is something that reallyhelps.
And then the third thing isjust being of service, like
volunteering at a local homelessshelter or, you know, like a
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dog shelter or volunteering todo something, going to a prison,
whatever it is, seeing peoplethat are so less fortunate than
you, and being of service orjust listening to people Like I,
you know, have a lot of clientsand I have a lot of people that
I mentor and I just don't eventalk about myself.
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They're like oh wait, I haven'teven heard anything about you
because I'm listening to themand their problems and that gets
my mind off my own problems.
So asking questions of peoplereally listening and being
present with other people ishuge, because so many people
when we listen we're in our ownhead or we're checking our phone
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or we're not even really likeactive listening.
But really listening to someonegets the focus off yourself and
then it's just deepening yourfaith, like knowing that and
again, these are affirmationsthat I love All things are
working together for my highestgood, I'm exactly where I'm
supposed to be, things areworking out better than I can
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imagine.
These are some affirmationsthat really get me through some
dark times and affirming thatyou know, things are working out
for my highest good, whether Ican see it or not, all things
are working together for myhighest good and just deepening
that faith muscle.
And you know, fear and faithare both the same exact thing.
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Fear is just thinking that theoutcome is going to be negative
and faith is just thinking thatthe outcome of the same exact
thing is going to be positive.
So if we can choose fear orfaith.
Why not choose faith?
Both things are not in reality,they're in the future.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right, that's absolutely right.
I love that.
Thank you so much.
That's beautiful, it's reallybeautiful.
All right, let's talk money.
Let's talk creating wealth.
Yeah, let's talk about the factthat, look, it's a resource we
all need and this idea ofabundance is something that a
lot of people, I think, strugglewith.
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And for us to be able to be inthis space and realize, oh, this
is a bit of a game, andrecognizing, the more you
understand how to play the game,the more you can get your
mindset in the right place, themore you open yourself up to
these different opportunities.
Because I think, like you, Idon't think you can sit on the
sofa and just be thinking greatthoughts and the money's going
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to come pouring in We'd all bedoing that but rather it's about
having your mindset in theright place, that, when
opportunities present themselves, or you pull them in, you're
able to act on it because yousee it as an opportunity, not as
, oh well, that's wishfulthinking, or that can never work
, or what have you.
So let's talk a little bitabout how you coach people into
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this abundant space.
I want to hear more about thesix-figure side hustle and how
it's transformed not only yourlife but the lives of the people
that you coach.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Sure.
So, yes, money is a game andwhen you think of what is money,
it's like paper and metal andwe assign value to it and we've
all agreed that this much paperand metal has this much value.
But it is a game and it isenergy and you don't want to
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have a negative relationshipwith money.
You want to think of it as yourbest friend or your lover or
someone that you just connectwith and can play with and have
fun with, because that's justgoing to draw it in more.
I mean, if you thought you knowthe opposite sex was your enemy
and that they're always goingto be just rude and terrible to
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you, then you wouldn't draw in anew lover.
So if you want to draw in moremoney, you want to just be like
open to it and excited about it.
And the reason why I teachpeople not to quit their job is
because this whole thing thatwe've been talking about during
this whole interview, there's amale and a female paradigm.
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So the male paradigm of wealthcreation is hustle and grind.
Just push yourself toexhaustion, work 80 to 100 hours
a week and work, work, work,work, work until you can, you
know, barely walk, and then youknow however much money you have
at the end of that push is whatyour money is.
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I teach women to be magneticand to draw people in and,
instead of having an attitude ofdesperation, have an attitude
of contribution.
How can you help people?
And when you're feeling drainedand burned out and exhausted,
you're like barely able tosurvive.
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You're not thinking aboutcontribution, You're just like
how can I get to the end of theday without like passing out on
my desk?
So it's important, as women,that we fill ourself up first,
to fill our energy up, our joyup, our passion up, so that we
have something to contribute.
So I teach women to find theirpassion.
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What is there?
And I have actually a freeguide on my website,
rebeccaelizabethwittmancom.
Find your meaningful andmagnetic purpose.
Like what is your life purpose?
What do you love talking about?
What could you talk about for ahalf an hour right now, with no
notes?
What are you always talking toyour girlfriends about?
What are people coming to youand asking you for advice about?
(37:38):
These are some clues as to whatyou could have as a side hustle
.
But I teach women don't quityour job.
A lot of male business coachessay quit your job, max out your
credit cards, sign up for myhigh ticket coaching program.
I'm going to teach you how tobe a millionaire in like five
minutes.
And then the women are like Idon't have a job, I don't have
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insurance, I'm not able to putfood on the table for my kids.
I have all this pressure tobecome a millionaire in like
five minutes by taking all thesevideo modules and doing all
these Zooms and it's like womenare like freaking out and then
they say, oh, being anentrepreneur doesn't work, or
network marketing doesn't work,or being a franchise owner
doesn't work, or whatever it isthat they try, because they did
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it in fight or flight mode.
Anything you do in fight orflight mode as a woman is not
going to feel good.
It's going to create cortisol,which is the stress hormone.
So I teach women keep your job,have it, pay your bills, have it
, you know.
Give you health insurance toprovide for your family.
Let's find a passion.
It's one of my coachingprograms and I teach them how to
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take their passion and turn itinto a profitable business.
That's fun and when you'rehaving fun it gets it done.
You are going to attractbusiness and consumers and
collaborations and all thethings and eventually you can
either keep your job and have anincome stream or you can quit
your job and just do your sidehustle and make that your main
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profession.
But, like I said at thebeginning of this interview, I
think people should have threeto five streams of income.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I love that, and fun is flow.
So having fun in business itdoesn't mean every day is a walk
in the park.
There are systems to be set upand there are mundane tasks that
need to still get done.
But when you can look at thisas I think it's intended to be,
which is it's a game, and lookat it that way, how can you play
the game better, how can youexpand your knowledge of the
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game?
It really does become a stateof flow.
And I think that's where women,trying to do it the way men do
it, they get it wrong.
Right, trying to do it the waymen do it, they get it wrong.
And I say that from a place ofdeep experience, having now been
in a place where I honestly didnot understand how it was going
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to work in this entrepreneurialspace.
I did take the leap out of mycorporate job, so it was a
little bit of a sink or swimmoment for me, and then I had to
step back and go oh, wait, aminute, this is a game, let's
play the game, let's have funplaying the game.
Then the money just startedshowing up.
It was incredible, but I had tochange my mindset.
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I was going at it with the sameold beliefs that I had in
corporate and it oh was notworking.
It was actually killing me, sothat sort of defeated the whole
purpose.
So I love that let's talk alittle bit about what you have
going on in 2025, rebecca.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I have a couple really fun events coming up this
month.
In January If you're hearingthis podcast now I have a seven
week program called ElegantWarrior Training, where we take
seven weeks and each week we doa deep dive into a pillar of
abundance and I give youactivations, tips, tools and
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strategies to take that area ofabundance to a level 10.
And it's something that setsyour whole year up for success
and giving you a lot of momentumcoming out of January into
February.
So that's one thing I'moffering this year.
Another thing I'm offering isI'm doing luxury wellness
masterminds at beautifullocations.
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I love that.
I know you should come with me.
I'm going to Playa del Carmen,mexico.
No, you should come with me.
I'm going to Playa del Carmen,mexico, to a beautiful resort
called Palmia, and that's goingto be January 23rd through 26th
and we're going to be doing verydeep work, getting our vision
boards and our power words andour power playlist and just
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releasing things that no longerserve us, that we don't want to
bring into the new year, andjust setting up our 21
customized affirmations for thenew year.
I help them get threeaffirmations on each of the
seven pillars, all while doingyoga, sound bath, having like
world-class vegan cuisine, beachwalks.
It's going to be an amazingluxury, mindset mastermind.
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So that's happening in January.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
And you're meeting other people that are going on
this journey at the same time,and I think there's something
very powerful about connectingwith other women that are in
this stage of being on a journeyand they become like a new
family for you.
So if you have the opportunityto do something like this, it's
been life transforming for meand fortunately, that week I'll
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be in Vail skiing, so I won't beable to join you.
Opposite type of vacation, butman sign me up for the next one
for sure, yay.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, the next one's going to be in October, so make
sure, if you're listening, thatyou subscribe to my mailing list
and follow me on social,because I'll have another one in
October.
And I love having a mindsetmastermind in October, because
that's kind of the last quarterof the year where a lot of
people start to really take thefoot off the gas and I teach you
how to have momentum going intothe fourth quarter so you can
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start your year off on a highnote.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I love that.
All right, rebecca, just repeatone more time.
Where can people find you?
Tell us a little bit about yourIG address, as well as your
website.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
My IG is at Rebecca E Whitman and you can also find
me at Rebecca E Whitman onTwitter, now known as X and
Clubhouse, and LinkedIn isRebecca Whitman.
Facebook is Rebecca Whitman, mywebsite is
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RebeccaElizabethWhitman with aZcom, and then I also have all
my offerings, my podcast, allthe things that I'm doing on a
link in bio called pillario,which I'll definitely give you,
michelle, michelle, to put inthe show notes so you can find
everything on pillario.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Wonderful and Rebecca mentioned.
You have an offer for theaudience.
You want to remind them what itis and they can make sure they
go into the show notes to lookfor it.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yay.
So I have this incredibleabundance journal.
I have just been transformed byit and gotten through the highs
and the lows of life because ofthis practice.
I'm so I believe so strongly inthese journal prompts that I
will tell you this much If youdo this every day for 10 days, I
expect you to have a shift or amiracle in your life, and I am
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standing behind this journal asthe most powerful tool for
transformation and I'm soexcited to share with you.
So Michelle will have it in theshow notes and it's also going
to be on my pillar link.
But it is called the abundancejournal and it is my gift to you
, and don't sleep on it.
It will change your life.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I love it.
It feels like we're gonna.
I think what we'll end up doing.
It's not only linking to that,but Rebecca and I will do some
social media together and we'lltalk about it there.
Maybe what we can do is we geta group of people actually going
on it.
We can get Rebecca to come backand can hear some of the shifts
that people are having.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I and can hear some of the shifts that people are
having.
I would love that.
I would love to hear the shifts, and you can also DM me any
questions that you have aboutthis interview or share any
experiences you have afterwriting in the journal Like.
Feel free to DM me.
I answer all my DMs onInstagram.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I love it.
Well, rebecca, thank you somuch for sharing yourself, your
journey, your expertise, yourinsights and your time with us
today.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It has been such a joy.
Thank you for having me on yourshow and I can't wait to have
you on my show in a couple ofdays.
The Balanced, beautiful andAbundant show.
So part two coming right up.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
All right, everyone.
Until next time, go and liveyour extraordinary life.
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Live your
Extraordinary Life podcast.
I'm your host, michelle Rios,and today we have an incredibly
inspiring guest who embodieswhat it means to live your
extraordinary life.
Rebecca Whitman is on a missionto help transform women from
burned out to balanced,beautiful and abundant, and I
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couldn't be happier to have herhere on the show today.
Through her groundbreakingSeven Pillars of Abundance,
rebecca has guided countlesswomen out of toxic relationships
to magnetize their soulmates atany stage of their life and
transition from unfulfillingjobs and careers to living with
purpose and profitability, whichis really important.
(00:45):
So she's the creator of the SixFigure Side Hustle Program, a
bestselling author of threebooks on business and mindset
and the award-winning host ofBalance, beautiful and Abundant
podcast.
She's been recognized as thenumber one life coach and
Empowered Women of the Year bythe International Association of
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Top Professionals.
Rebecca is, without a doubt, atrue force of empowerment.
So, without further ado,rebecca, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank you, Michelle.
It's so great to be here.
I had so much fun meeting youon that panel and we just really
connected and had such a greatconversation and I can't wait to
have you on my podcast later inthe week.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I cannot wait.
So, for those of you who maybedidn't catch it, rebecca and I
met a few months back.
We were on a Creating WealthSummit and there were so many
synergies.
We couldn't help but go okay,we need to talk, we need to know
each other and we need to seewhere we can work together and
help really spread the message,because there's just so much
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that we do that is in common.
So we're going to start where Istart, with all my guests,
rebecca, and that's with aquestion what does it mean to
you to live your extraordinarylife?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
To me, an extraordinary life means freedom
the freedom to do what I want,when I want, where I want and
with whom I want.
And when I have freedom, thatmeans I have choices and choices
are power.
When you feel stuck, that meansyou feel like you've run out of
choices and I want to feel justfree and expansive and like I
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have choices and that makes mylife feel extraordinary.
Just deciding on a whim if Iwant to like pick up and take a
vacation and work from my phone,that kind of freedom and
flexibility is everything.
I call it financial flexibility, not financial freedom, because
it is freedom, but it's alsojust flexibility and in this
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high-tech era it's so easy justto just pick up and do business
from your phone.
So that's what an extraordinarylife is adventure and freedom
and expansion.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I love that.
I love it.
Okay.
So I want to go back a littlebit and have you tell us a bit
of the backstory on how youbecame an entrepreneur, because
this wasn't always the case, butyou have been doing it, and
doing it in a way that I thinkreally serves as a new model,
kind of, I think, opposite of alot of the hustle and grind
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culture that we hope is startingto move away from.
We all know we have to workhard and we need to be
disciplined and dedicated to notonly our business but our
spiritual lives, our health, allof the things and we're going
to get back into the sevenpillars of abundance in a minute
but could you tell us a littlebit about your journey?
(03:46):
How did you even get to thispoint where we're talking about
financial flexibility andfreedom?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah.
So I graduated from PrincetonUniversity.
I wanted to work in theentertainment industry as a
corporate.
On the corporate side, theytold me, well, you're going to
have to work for free as anintern.
And I was like what I signed upfor, like making a ton of money
.
That's why I went to an Ivyleague school.
So I said I'm just going to bean actress, they're going to
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make all the money.
So I started taking actingclasses.
I answered an ad in New Yorkcity about becoming a
millionaire in five years doingnetwork marketing.
I bought it hook line andsinker.
So I was on.
For the next five and a halfyears I lived in about 20 cities
, opening offices all over theMidwest and the Eastern United
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States for this networkmarketing company.
We used to work in offices andI learned a lot about direct
sales, management, leadership,all the things.
And I ended up in a very toxicrelationship with somebody who
was selling cars.
So we sold cars together inJacksonville, florida and then
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we ended up.
And then we ended up.
It was, there was a humongousfight and I was able to find an
internet startup company and theinternet startup company paid
me very well.
It went out of business.
But I had a huge amount in mychecking account for my age I
think I had like 40 grand inchecking and I was like if I
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don't move, if I don't move toLA and pursue acting, I never
will.
So I moved to LA to pursueacting.
I had small parts on big showslike Friends, csi and 24.
I never did catch that bigbreak and while I was
auditioning I started working atchildren's acting schools,
which I really loved because Idon't have kids and I had a very
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flexible schedule while thekids were at school.
That's when I started studyingthe law of attraction with
brilliant thought leaders likeMichael Beckwith, esther Hicks,
wayne Dyer, louise Hay, marianWilliamson.
I started applying it to myfinancial life.
Before I knew it, I was makingsix figures working part-time.
Then I tried to apply it to mylove life, but not so
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successfully.
I was in the habit of going foremotionally unavailable,
narcissistic men and trying tochange them.
What a fun hobby.
So I decided to marry one.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like so many women Like so many women.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yes, and it was exhausting and I decided to
marry one.
He it got worse more fighting,more toxicity.
So I filed for divorce and itjust so happened that, as my
marriage was slowly andpainfully unraveling, my dad was
slowly and painfully dying backin Ohio, where I'm from.
And in my last conversationwith my dad he said I think you
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should write a book.
And I had no idea what to writeabout.
A few months later, my dad hadpassed away and my marriage had
been dissolved and I was sittingacross the desk from my
financial planner and he saidRebecca, even though you had
your hardest year everfinancially, you are emotionally
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, you are financially, aself-made millionaire this year
and I think you should write abook and empower people to do
what you did.
So I wrote a book called how toMake a Six-Figure Income
Working Part-Time, and in thebook I divide life into seven
key areas, which I call my sevenpillars of abundance, and when
you have these seven areas ofyour life aligned, you can be,
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do or have anything you want.
And that is the story of how Igot to be doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, that's a perfect segue.
We got to get into the sevenpillars.
All right, Rebecca, let's talkabout what are the seven pillars
of abundance and talk to us alittle bit about why you think
it's essential that all of theseareas I think of this kind of
like the life wheel.
Do you remember the life wheel?
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
That's Tony Robbins right.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, this is really the essentials of like what
you're filling out and howyou're focusing on these
different aspects of your life.
Let's talk about first whatthey are and why these in
particular.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I went to a sales training when I was in my 20s,
doing the network marketingcompany that I was in, and they
talked about goal setting in sixkey areas.
And I added an area romanticbecause, like I said before, I
was romantically challenged.
Then, in studying the law ofattraction, I learned the power
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of affirmations.
So I came up with a signaturemethod of how to create
affirmations and all sevenpillars of abundance, and that
is how they came to be andthey're in order of importance.
So the first one isspirituality.
It's all about connecting withthe divine in the morning,
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having a morning practice whichincludes prayer, meditation.
I'm all about journaling.
I have an incredible journalpractice that I have not missed
a day for 35 years.
I met this woman when I was ateenager, in a 12-step group,
and she gave me this amazingjournal framework that I've been
doing.
That has completely changed mythinking from negative to
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positive and helped me justlearn from my wins, learn from
my failures, learn from otherpeople on their journey.
So I'm actually, with yourpermission, would love to give
that journal to your guests, toyour listeners, as a just
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, let's make sure we talk about it, but also I'll
link to it in the show notes.
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So spirituality comes first.
The second is emotions.
All emotions come from scarcityor abundance.
We think there's not enough ofwhatever we want not enough time
, not enough energy, not enoughmoney, not enough love, not
enough clients, not enough likesor comments on our social or
abundance.
I have plenty of time, I haveplenty of money, I have plenty
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of energy, I have plenty ofclients, plenty of love, plenty
of visibility.
So it's all about switchingfrom scarcity to abundance and
the fastest way to do that isthrough a gratitude practice.
The next pillar of abundance isfitness, and fitness is so
important because health iswealth.
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I mean, I know, when we had ourconversation, michelle, we
talked a lot about your burningout and your health, you know,
was at risk.
Even though you were likecrushing your burning out and
your health was at risk.
Even though you were crushingyour goals financially, your
health was at risk.
So if you don't have yourhealth, you don't have anything,
because health is wealth.
If you have your health, youhave every financial opportunity
in the world, every romanticopportunity available to you.
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But if you're in a bed andyou're sick, obviously all your
choices, all your freedom, allyour expansion that I talked
about, living an extraordinarylife that all goes away.
So health is everything.
So I believe in body beforebusiness and schedule your
meetings and your day aroundyour workouts.
The next pillar is romance, andI believe you attract who you
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are, not who you want.
So that's why it's so importantto do the other things first,
to be spiritually high vibe, toswitch your emotional life from
scarcity to abundance.
To feel strong, sexy andconfident in your body so that
you attract someone that is amatch for the healthier version
of you.
I've helped a lot of women exittoxic relationships and I tell
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people if it doesn't lift you upand support you and serve you,
then walk away.
There's no such thing as aneutral relationship or a
neutral energy.
Someone's either supporting youand building you up or they're
detracting from you.
The next pillar of abundanceafter romance is mindset, and
that's what you guys are doingright now, listening to
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Michelle's amazing ExtraordinaryLife podcast.
You're working on your mindset.
So mindset means learningsomething, whether it's a
podcast, an audible, learning arecipe, taking a class, learning
a sport, even crossword puzzles.
Anything that grows your mindAfter mindset is social, and I
feel that after COVID hit, somany people lost that aspect and
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that desire.
People got so isolated andthat's why there's been an
epidemic of depression, drugaddiction, suicide.
People are just at home hidingbehind their technology.
I encourage my clients to joinnetworking groups, go back to
live events.
Facebook groups are great too,but if you can find a way to go
to in-person events, there's somuch magic that happens in
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community.
And finally, the seventh pillaris financial.
And when most people think,well, you're an abundance mentor
, they think you're a financialcoach, but to me, abundance.
Think you're a financial coach,but to me, abundance is all
these areas of life.
When you have your spirituallife, you're physically fit,
you're in love with yoursoulmate, you have friends, you
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are going to attract more moneywith ease and grace.
Money is important.
Like you said, I don't tellpeople just to sit home and like
pray and meditate.
It's all about being verydeliberate with your time
management and your schedule.
I believe that people shouldhave at least three streams of
income and not quit their job tostart their side hustle.
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So those are some of myfinancial philosophies.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I love that.
Yeah, you know my financialphilosophies.
I love that.
Yeah, you know, you and I wereon this panel and we talked a
lot about the energy behindmoney and frequency, and that's
such an important piece for mebecause, you know, as you
mentioned, I was making a verygenerous salary and was
traveling the world, had thelarge teams, had the status, but
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I was also incredibly drainedand it was taking a huge toll on
my family life.
I've been married for 20 yearsbut we always talk about the
fact that I was sleepwalkingthrough a large part of that
because I was burned out and youjust can't show up as your best
self when you're in that mode.
So for me, this idea of gettingto this totality of wealth a
(14:06):
true wealth, a holistic view onwealth is so important and it's
really sort of the centerpieceof the book I'm writing and
really going to the grid of it.
We got to let go of some ofthese old school thinking and
beliefs around what it means tohave made it or be successful,
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and out of this place of likevalidating our existence by
hustling and working harder andwaiting for the next thing that
we can check off our list to saywe've done it Look what I've
done.
I'm somehow validated in thisand get to a place where we are
really grounded in the thingsthat matter.
So thank you so much forsharing that.
I think it's so important.
(14:49):
You mentioned affirmations, andI know there are a lot of people
.
I start like you.
I start every day with my ownjournaling, and I'm a big
believer that if anything isgoing to happen, I need to
actually not only say it outloud but write it down, because
(15:10):
if I don't write it down and ifI don't kind of bring it to be
in that space, it's in theabstract and it's much harder to
bring about, it's much harderto manifest and I don't have the
mechanics.
Usually a lot of my I always saymy brain stream of thinking
around journaling is just a lotof.
(15:31):
It is brainstorming sometimesof like new ideas and new
pathways and you don't even knowyou're doing it and you're like
, oh wait, that's the thing thatI need to go do next.
But I get a lot of folks attimes questioning do
affirmations really work?
I say them, I say them, I talka lot about embodiment around it
.
I'd love to hear your thoughtson affirmations and maybe how
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you've evolved your affirmationpractice, how it's changed over
time.
Can you share a little bit moreabout what you do and how you
approach it?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, and I understand affirmations don't
work if you truly don't believethat it's going to happen.
So let's say that you have alimiting belief around your love
life, right, and you reallythink that you're going to be
alone which is one from my bookhow to Make a Six-Figure Income
(16:26):
Working Part-Time.
I am magically and passionatelyin love with my soulmate.
So if you don't believe that'sgoing to happen, you can say I
am magically and passionately inlove with my soulmate a million
times a day.
But if you don't believe it'sgoing to happen, it's not going
to happen.
It can't erase yoursubconscious programming.
(16:46):
So that's why it's so important, before you do affirmations, to
look at your limiting beliefsand to really examine them.
So the limiting belief thatwe're discussing here is I just
I miss the boat.
You know all the good guys arealready taken right, I'm going
to end up alone.
That's the limiting belief.
So it's good to reallydismantle that and be like well,
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what if you did end up alone?
And would it be the worst lifeever?
And you know, are you going todie Like?
Just really like dismantle it,because we have these limiting
beliefs that we think are likecatastrophic, but they're not.
And for me before I met mysoulmate catastrophic, but
they're not.
And for me, before I met mysoulmate, I made peace.
I was just like you know.
(17:35):
I surrendered it.
I'm like God.
If I'm supposed to be alone, Ijust want to be around positive,
cool, high vibe, loving peopleI don't care if they're men,
women, dogs, friends, likewhatever.
Like I had to surrender it anda really deep level and that's
what I think helped bring in mysoulmate.
So I teach the four A's oftransformation.
So the first A is to justaccept where you are, like okay,
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I'm believing that all the goodguys are already taken, and
just accept it and not be likewell, I listened to Michelle's
podcast and it's all aboutliving an extraordinary life.
I shouldn't be thinking sonegatively, like no, don't,
don't should on yourself.
Just accept that you have alimiting belief around this
topic.
So the second, the second A isuh, okay, well, the wait.
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The first day is awareness.
I have a limiting belief.
The second A is acceptance notto judge yourself.
The third A is action.
Second A is acceptance not tojudge yourself.
The third A is action.
What action can I take to thatis the opposite.
So can I go on one internetdate a week.
If that's too much, can I go onone internet date a month, okay
?
And then the fourth A isaffirmation.
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And then it's a generalaffirmation, maybe it's not.
I'm magically and passionatelyin love with my soulmate.
Maybe a more general one is youknow, I am enjoying meeting new
people for coffee.
Like just general, and then, asyou get more confident, I'm
going on these internet datesonce a month.
I'm actually enjoying meetingfor coffee.
Then you could go more and morespecific.
(19:04):
But yeah, if you feel like it'snot working for you, I would do
those things.
Look at your limiting beliefsand then accept yourself and
then be more specific I meanmore general about what you want
, until you start to have someease and some positivity around
that area where you feel stuck.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I love that.
There's something very magical.
I know some people can kind ofgo there more easily and I
suspect, rebecca, you're one ofthem this idea of being able to
suspend disbelief.
I'm the person you want to taketo the movies.
Even if I've seen it seventimes, I'm deeply in for
whatever's happening, I cansuspend disbelief that this is
just a movie.
I feel all the things, and thathelps with affirmations, no
matter where I am on anyparticular day.
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If I am, nope, I'm going to sitwith this and just kind of let
my mind wander and really dreamwhat it is I want to experience
around this and then work myaffirmations around that I'm in
a place of I'll suspend alldisbelief, despite the fact that
seven different ways it didn'twork.
Well, there's got to be aneighth or a ninth, so I'm the
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rider of the tide.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
For that You're amazing, because a lot of people
that have your education andfinance and government policy do
not think so whimsically andoptimistically and hopefully,
about affirmation.
So that's amazing that you havethat.
Affirmations will work a lotfaster for you then, because you
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believe that they can actuallywork and that's part of it.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I think that that's Gabor Mate.
You know his work, you've heardhis work.
He was on a video that I sawrecently and it's worth talking
about because he's obviouslyincredibly educated.
He went to medical school andhe talks about the Winnie the
Pooh story Christopher Robin,winnie Pooh At one point,
christopher Robbins grows up andsays I can't come play anymore
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and he goes oh, that just movedme to tears and the guy he's
being interviewed by he's likewell, tell me more about that.
He's like because I realized Ihad worked so hard validating my
existence by going to schooland studying and working and
getting the right residency andall this that I lost my
playfulness.
I was like Christopher Robbinsall grown up and yet I let that
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ship sail.
So I had a very similarexperience.
So I had this great connectionwith him because I was like oh
my God, that's the story of mylife.
I had to grow up fast.
I let go of this beingwhimsical as a kid because I had
to get super serious and workhard and get into the right
schools and do the right things.
But here's the great thing, andI think you know this this is
(21:47):
what the things you teach, itdoesn't matter when you have
your awakening and you haveprobably more than one I'm here
at midlife going, oh, this isthe most magical time because I
was able to go.
Nope, this is time for moreplay.
So I have a 17-year-old, almost18-year-old, who often says I
don't know anybody your age whoacts more like a kid, and to me,
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biggest compliment you can giveme, because I had lost all of
that as a young person, as ayoung adult, as an adolescent,
as a 20 something, even as a 30something, starting a family and
starting to get really seriousabout doing all the things and
building the life.
It took getting into my fortiesand now into my fifties really
(22:31):
say, oh, no, no, no.
This is a playground, this isthe place where we get to play.
Go, have more fun.
It's a much quicker way thanpushing your way up and pushing
the boulder up the hill of acareer for 30 years which been
there and done that.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You know I think of that's so beautiful.
Thank you for sharing that.
I think of life as a vacation.
You know, when you take avacation, you know it has a
beginning, a middle and an end,and that's kind of like a soul
taking on a body.
It's got a beginning, a middleand an end.
We know we're all going to die,but we always forget that.
But why not have the most funand the most passion and the
(23:14):
most playfulness and excitementand just good energy while we're
here, because it's going to endanyway?
So why waste our time and fear,doubt and worry when we know
that it's all going to end?
Like just exactly the older,the older I get, the younger I
get in my spirit and I thinkthat's one of my.
(23:35):
I know we're doing this podcastinterview on January 6th, but I
want to have more playfulnessthis year than I had last year,
because when I take myself tooseriously and it stops being fun
, then what's the point?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I think that that's such an important piece of it.
We get so serious about lifeand forget the fact that we are
spiritual beings having a humanexperience and that the goal
isn't to become the mostsuccessful accumulated wealth
human that ever existed and then, at the end of the day, you get
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like an award on your way ofchecking out of this life.
It's to use up this life, togive out the gifts, to live it
fully, and it's almost likeeveryone missed the memo right,
which is why the work you do isso important.
Hey, we should just have humansborn and be like here you go.
Just remember, you're aspiritual being on a human
(24:30):
experience, so don't get tootied to this life.
Have some fun with it.
Make sure you're giving awayyour gifts.
That's why you're actually here.
Go have more fun.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Let's talk about spirituality, because I do think
it's such an important piece ofthis entire.
I don't call it puzzle, but Ido often refer to life, an
important piece of this entire.
I don't want to call it puzzle,but I do often refer to life as
a chessboard.
When you start to have theawakening, you go from playing
checkers to playing chess.
So talk to me a little bitabout how you look at
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spirituality and perhaps some ofthe things you do to connect
with the divine source of allthings.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, I am in a constant conversation, all
connect with the divine, sourceof all things.
Yeah, I am in a constantconversation, all day with the
divine and I am just listeningfor insights, downloads, aha
moments.
I'm a total student and seekerand I think my spirituality is
all from humility because when Ithink I already know and I'm
(25:30):
not open for any like guidanceor signs or directions from
anyone, then that's where mygrowth stops.
So, having a mindset of aseeker and a student and
learning every day, every day isan opportunity to learn and
grow and I can learn fromeveryone, like everybody's a
teacher, whether it'soverhearing a conversation in
(25:51):
the checkout line at the grocerystore or listening to a line
from a song, or I can learn somuch just from my dog because my
dog is so much in the momentand playful and like doesn't
worry about anything.
I just am a total student and Ithat's.
So having a humble attitude isimportant and then also just
(26:14):
being grateful.
Happiness is not getting what Iwant, but wanting what I have.
So just having my problems andperspective, and I was like for
a long time in a negative looparound my love life, and it was
when Facebook Messenger firstcame out and remember what you
could message back and forth.
For some reason I connectedwith a monk, like in the
(26:38):
Himalayas, like I don't know howwe became Facebook friends, but
literally he was like heavensent and I was messaging him
about how upset I was aboutanother bad date or being single
, or how tough it was dating inLA, whatever my gripe was.
And he's like why don't youcompare yourself instead of to
the people that are having whatyou want?
(27:00):
Why don't you compare yourselfto the billions of people who
don't even have what you have?
Like there's so many people whohave so much less than you.
So I think another part of myspirituality is not to compare
myself, because I call itcompare and despair-ism.
There's always somebody thathas more and if I compare myself
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to them, then I will feel badabout myself.
So if I'm going to comparemyself to myself, like where was
I six months ago or a year agoor 10 years ago on my journey,
or who was I before I started myspiritual transformation and
being more empathetic, so Ithink that is another thing.
And then another part of myspirituality is being in the
(27:46):
present moment.
So happiness is being here nowand when I'm thinking about the
past, I'm usually in regret orself-recrimination.
I you know what I could haveshould have.
Why didn't I do that, whydidn't I do this?
Like beating myself up.
I'm a recovering perfectionist,so when I'm in the past, I'm
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usually just thinking how Icould have done it better.
When I'm in the future, it'slike oh my God, what's going to
happen?
How's it all going to turn out?
How am I going to pay for this?
How am I going to pay for that?
What's going to happen overthere?
What's going to happen overthere?
It's just like anxiety.
And then, when I just take adeep mindful breath and I feel
my five senses so what am I?
Tasting, touching, feeling,smelling, seeing, hearing brings
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me to the moment.
And then, if I can't groundmyself in the moment, even by
touching your fingers on eachother, that's grounding, because
you're feeling, you're in yoursenses, looking around, looking
at something not made by humanhands.
I mean, we're just we'relooking at your beautiful
snowfall out your window, so I'mlooking at a squirrel play on a
tree.
So looking at something notmade by human hands.
And then, if that's still toooverwhelming, just doing the
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next right thing, like what isthe next right action to get me
to my goals, to get me to mypeace of mind, to get me to
feeling okay in my body.
So just taking the next step,the next step and the next step,
instead of getting so far intothe future that I get
overwhelmed like what is my nextright action All?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
right.
I want to just delve in alittle bit to where sometimes it
happens.
People just get in that stuckmode and they start to go
through that despair loop oflike ugh, things are just hard
right now and I don't see theway out.
I don't know what to do next.
How do you help yourself getout of that mode?
(29:44):
Obviously, grounding and comingback to the present moment's
got to be a really important one.
But when that mind is takingover and that voice inside your
head is going 90 miles a minuteof all the reasons why X isn't
going to work or Y isn't goingto come to be or this should
have happened, and you're therefor a while, how do you snap
(30:07):
back out?
Because I know that I have alot of folks that are listening,
that are dealing with some bigstuff we all do right.
It all comes everyone's like.
How come you're always talkingabout living your extraordinary
life?
It isn't absent of problems orchallenges.
It's how I react to thoseproblems and challenges.
(30:29):
So I want to hear more abouthow you pull yourself out of
those spaces.
How do you help your clientsthat you coach get out of that
space, because it's just so easy?
I've seen a lot of peopledealing with loneliness over the
holidays, financial burdens,illnesses that are not only
(30:51):
theirs but their loved ones, andthey're just like oh, it just
feels heavy.
We're starting the new yearheavy.
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
What really works for me is having the morning
practice that I mentionedwriting in the God Journal.
One of the journal prompts isyou know, how is the worst thing
that is happening actually thebest thing?
Because that just flips it over, because I don't know, like the
big perspective.
I'm sure we can all think ofperiods in our life where we
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were going through a lot ofemotional or physical pain and
we grew tremendously and welearned lessons that we could
not have learned any other way.
And we grow through what we gothrough, and just having that
practice of thinking how is theworst thing in my perspective
actually the best thing thatflips, that's a great way to
(31:43):
flip it.
Exercise, you know, move amuscle, change a thought.
Just exercise changes yourbiochemistry so much with the
endorphins, the serotonin, thedopamine.
That is something that reallyhelps.
And then the third thing isjust being of service, like
volunteering at a local homelessshelter or, you know, like a
(32:08):
dog shelter or volunteering todo something, going to a prison,
whatever it is, seeing peoplethat are so less fortunate than
you, and being of service orjust listening to people Like I,
you know, have a lot of clientsand I have a lot of people that
I mentor and I just don't eventalk about myself.
(32:30):
They're like oh wait, I haven'teven heard anything about you
because I'm listening to themand their problems and that gets
my mind off my own problems.
So asking questions of peoplereally listening and being
present with other people ishuge, because so many people
when we listen we're in our ownhead or we're checking our phone
(32:50):
or we're not even really likeactive listening.
But really listening to someonegets the focus off yourself and
then it's just deepening yourfaith, like knowing that and
again, these are affirmationsthat I love All things are
working together for my highestgood, I'm exactly where I'm
supposed to be, things areworking out better than I can
(33:13):
imagine.
These are some affirmationsthat really get me through some
dark times and affirming thatyou know, things are working out
for my highest good, whether Ican see it or not, all things
are working together for myhighest good and just deepening
that faith muscle.
And you know, fear and faithare both the same exact thing.
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Fear is just thinking that theoutcome is going to be negative
and faith is just thinking thatthe outcome of the same exact
thing is going to be positive.
So if we can choose fear orfaith.
Why not choose faith?
Both things are not in reality,they're in the future.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right, that's absolutely right.
I love that.
Thank you so much.
That's beautiful, it's reallybeautiful.
All right, let's talk money.
Let's talk creating wealth.
Yeah, let's talk about the factthat, look, it's a resource we
all need and this idea ofabundance is something that a
lot of people, I think, strugglewith.
(34:13):
And for us to be able to be inthis space and realize, oh, this
is a bit of a game, andrecognizing, the more you
understand how to play the game,the more you can get your
mindset in the right place, themore you open yourself up to
these different opportunities.
Because I think, like you, Idon't think you can sit on the
sofa and just be thinking greatthoughts and the money's going
(34:35):
to come pouring in We'd all bedoing that but rather it's about
having your mindset in theright place, that, when
opportunities present themselves, or you pull them in, you're
able to act on it because yousee it as an opportunity, not as
, oh well, that's wishfulthinking, or that can never work
, or what have you.
So let's talk a little bitabout how you coach people into
(34:59):
this abundant space.
I want to hear more about thesix-figure side hustle and how
it's transformed not only yourlife but the lives of the people
that you coach.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Sure.
So, yes, money is a game andwhen you think of what is money,
it's like paper and metal andwe assign value to it and we've
all agreed that this much paperand metal has this much value.
But it is a game and it isenergy and you don't want to
(35:31):
have a negative relationshipwith money.
You want to think of it as yourbest friend or your lover or
someone that you just connectwith and can play with and have
fun with, because that's justgoing to draw it in more.
I mean, if you thought you knowthe opposite sex was your enemy
and that they're always goingto be just rude and terrible to
(35:52):
you, then you wouldn't draw in anew lover.
So if you want to draw in moremoney, you want to just be like
open to it and excited about it.
And the reason why I teachpeople not to quit their job is
because this whole thing thatwe've been talking about during
this whole interview, there's amale and a female paradigm.
(36:12):
So the male paradigm of wealthcreation is hustle and grind.
Just push yourself toexhaustion, work 80 to 100 hours
a week and work, work, work,work, work until you can, you
know, barely walk, and then youknow however much money you have
at the end of that push is whatyour money is.
(36:33):
I teach women to be magneticand to draw people in and,
instead of having an attitude ofdesperation, have an attitude
of contribution.
How can you help people?
And when you're feeling drainedand burned out and exhausted,
you're like barely able tosurvive.
(36:54):
You're not thinking aboutcontribution, You're just like
how can I get to the end of theday without like passing out on
my desk?
So it's important, as women,that we fill ourself up first,
to fill our energy up, our joyup, our passion up, so that we
have something to contribute.
So I teach women to find theirpassion.
(37:15):
What is there?
And I have actually a freeguide on my website,
rebeccaelizabethwittmancom.
Find your meaningful andmagnetic purpose.
Like what is your life purpose?
What do you love talking about?
What could you talk about for ahalf an hour right now, with no
notes?
What are you always talking toyour girlfriends about?
What are people coming to youand asking you for advice about?
(37:38):
These are some clues as to whatyou could have as a side hustle
.
But I teach women don't quityour job.
A lot of male business coachessay quit your job, max out your
credit cards, sign up for myhigh ticket coaching program.
I'm going to teach you how tobe a millionaire in like five
minutes.
And then the women are like Idon't have a job, I don't have
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insurance, I'm not able to putfood on the table for my kids.
I have all this pressure tobecome a millionaire in like
five minutes by taking all thesevideo modules and doing all
these Zooms and it's like womenare like freaking out and then
they say, oh, being anentrepreneur doesn't work, or
network marketing doesn't work,or being a franchise owner
doesn't work, or whatever it isthat they try, because they did
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it in fight or flight mode.
Anything you do in fight orflight mode as a woman is not
going to feel good.
It's going to create cortisol,which is the stress hormone.
So I teach women keep your job,have it, pay your bills, have it
, you know.
Give you health insurance toprovide for your family.
Let's find a passion.
It's one of my coachingprograms and I teach them how to
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take their passion and turn itinto a profitable business.
That's fun and when you'rehaving fun it gets it done.
You are going to attractbusiness and consumers and
collaborations and all thethings and eventually you can
either keep your job and have anincome stream or you can quit
your job and just do your sidehustle and make that your main
(39:05):
profession.
But, like I said at thebeginning of this interview, I
think people should have threeto five streams of income.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I love that, and fun is flow.
So having fun in business itdoesn't mean every day is a walk
in the park.
There are systems to be set upand there are mundane tasks that
need to still get done.
But when you can look at thisas I think it's intended to be,
which is it's a game, and lookat it that way, how can you play
the game better, how can youexpand your knowledge of the
(39:33):
game?
It really does become a stateof flow.
And I think that's where women,trying to do it the way men do
it, they get it wrong.
Right, trying to do it the waymen do it, they get it wrong.
And I say that from a place ofdeep experience, having now been
in a place where I honestly didnot understand how it was going
(39:53):
to work in this entrepreneurialspace.
I did take the leap out of mycorporate job, so it was a
little bit of a sink or swimmoment for me, and then I had to
step back and go oh, wait, aminute, this is a game, let's
play the game, let's have funplaying the game.
Then the money just startedshowing up.
It was incredible, but I had tochange my mindset.
(40:15):
I was going at it with the sameold beliefs that I had in
corporate and it oh was notworking.
It was actually killing me, sothat sort of defeated the whole
purpose.
So I love that let's talk alittle bit about what you have
going on in 2025, rebecca.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
I have a couple really fun events coming up this
month.
In January If you're hearingthis podcast now I have a seven
week program called ElegantWarrior Training, where we take
seven weeks and each week we doa deep dive into a pillar of
abundance and I give youactivations, tips, tools and
(40:56):
strategies to take that area ofabundance to a level 10.
And it's something that setsyour whole year up for success
and giving you a lot of momentumcoming out of January into
February.
So that's one thing I'moffering this year.
Another thing I'm offering isI'm doing luxury wellness
masterminds at beautifullocations.
(41:17):
I love that.
I know you should come with me.
I'm going to Playa del Carmen,mexico.
No, you should come with me.
I'm going to Playa del Carmen,mexico, to a beautiful resort
called Palmia, and that's goingto be January 23rd through 26th
and we're going to be doing verydeep work, getting our vision
boards and our power words andour power playlist and just
(41:39):
releasing things that no longerserve us, that we don't want to
bring into the new year, andjust setting up our 21
customized affirmations for thenew year.
I help them get threeaffirmations on each of the
seven pillars, all while doingyoga, sound bath, having like
world-class vegan cuisine, beachwalks.
It's going to be an amazingluxury, mindset mastermind.
(42:04):
So that's happening in January.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
And you're meeting other people that are going on
this journey at the same time,and I think there's something
very powerful about connectingwith other women that are in
this stage of being on a journeyand they become like a new
family for you.
So if you have the opportunityto do something like this, it's
been life transforming for meand fortunately, that week I'll
(42:27):
be in Vail skiing, so I won't beable to join you.
Opposite type of vacation, butman sign me up for the next one
for sure, yay.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, the next one's going to be in October, so make
sure, if you're listening, thatyou subscribe to my mailing list
and follow me on social,because I'll have another one in
October.
And I love having a mindsetmastermind in October, because
that's kind of the last quarterof the year where a lot of
people start to really take thefoot off the gas and I teach you
how to have momentum going intothe fourth quarter so you can
(42:59):
start your year off on a highnote.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I love that.
All right, rebecca, just repeatone more time.
Where can people find you?
Tell us a little bit about yourIG address, as well as your
website.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
My IG is at Rebecca E Whitman and you can also find
me at Rebecca E Whitman onTwitter, now known as X and
Clubhouse, and LinkedIn isRebecca Whitman.
Facebook is Rebecca Whitman, mywebsite is
(43:31):
RebeccaElizabethWhitman with aZcom, and then I also have all
my offerings, my podcast, allthe things that I'm doing on a
link in bio called pillario,which I'll definitely give you,
michelle, michelle, to put inthe show notes so you can find
everything on pillario.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Wonderful and Rebecca mentioned.
You have an offer for theaudience.
You want to remind them what itis and they can make sure they
go into the show notes to lookfor it.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Yay.
So I have this incredibleabundance journal.
I have just been transformed byit and gotten through the highs
and the lows of life because ofthis practice.
I'm so I believe so strongly inthese journal prompts that I
will tell you this much If youdo this every day for 10 days, I
expect you to have a shift or amiracle in your life, and I am
(44:25):
standing behind this journal asthe most powerful tool for
transformation and I'm soexcited to share with you.
So Michelle will have it in theshow notes and it's also going
to be on my pillar link.
But it is called the abundancejournal and it is my gift to you
, and don't sleep on it.
It will change your life.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I love it.
It feels like we're gonna.
I think what we'll end up doing.
It's not only linking to that,but Rebecca and I will do some
social media together and we'lltalk about it there.
Maybe what we can do is we geta group of people actually going
on it.
We can get Rebecca to come backand can hear some of the shifts
that people are having.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I and can hear some of the shifts that people are
having.
I would love that.
I would love to hear the shifts, and you can also DM me any
questions that you have aboutthis interview or share any
experiences you have afterwriting in the journal Like.
Feel free to DM me.
I answer all my DMs onInstagram.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I love it.
Well, rebecca, thank you somuch for sharing yourself, your
journey, your expertise, yourinsights and your time with us
today.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
It has been such a joy.
Thank you for having me on yourshow and I can't wait to have
you on my show in a couple ofdays.
The Balanced, beautiful andAbundant show.
So part two coming right up.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
All right, everyone.
Until next time, go and liveyour extraordinary life.
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