Unperfected with Brooke Jean

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What if the life you were chasing wasn’t the one you truly wanted? For Brooke Jean, a licensed therapist and coach, that realization sparked a transformative journey from corporate overachievement to authentic living. In this episode, Brooke opens up about how societal expectations, unprocessed trauma, and the relentless pursuit of perfection led to burnout—and how she found healing and fulfillment by embracing boundaries, balance, and her inner truth.

Together, we dive deep into the power of spiritual awakening and self-discovery, exploring how life’s challenges can lead us to uncover our true purpose. Brooke shares her unique perspective on integrating masculine and feminine energies, leaning into intuition, and creating daily routines that spark freedom and creativity.

This conversation is a rallying cry for women, especially high-achieving CEO moms, to redefine success on their own terms. By focusing on joy, intentionality, and the power of frequency, Brooke shows us how to shift from a life of striving to one of thriving.

Tune in to hear:

• How Brooke pivoted from corporate success to coaching
• The role of collective trauma in personal transformation
• Why spiritual awakening is essential for true healing
• The roots of shame in women’s lives and how to overcome them
• How balancing masculine and feminine energies can foster growth
• Simple daily rituals that boost well-being and productivity
• Why play and pleasure are the ultimate tools for success
• The ripple effect of individual healing on communities

Join us for a heartfelt, eye-opening dialogue that challenges the hustle mindset and celebrates the courage to live authentically. To connect with Brooke, visit liveunperfected.com or follow her on Instagram at @BrookeJeanUnperfected.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello everyone and welcome back to the Live your
Extraordinary Life podcast.
Today we have the pleasure ofwelcoming Brooke Jean to the
Live your Extraordinary Lifepodcast.
She is a licensed therapist, acoach, a podcast host and a
speaker dedicated to helpinghigh achieving women,
particularly CEO boss moms,transition from healing to

(00:26):
high-frequency without thepressure to be perfect.
She's a creator of theSignature Unperfected Method,
which combines psychology,energetics and neuroscience to
guide individuals in sheddingsocietal expectations and
stepping into their mostauthentic selves.
I am so thrilled to have herhere.
Brooke, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, I'm so excited to be here.
My own little bio just turnedme up and turned me on.
Just listening to it I was likelet's go baby, I mean you're
speaking my language.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
You are speaking my language.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, I can just feel it.
This is going to be such ajuicy conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It is.
And okay, I have to start fromthe beginning, because we have
very similar stories ofcorporate women out there trying
to make it happen, change thegenerational experiences for
here to come and then hittingthat proverbial wall of burnout
not that we weren't successful,we were very, very successful

(01:30):
and then realizing we have gotto find a way to do it
differently.
So why don't you tune us intoyour story?
I'd love to hear a little bitmore about how you went from
that high power corporate jobinto what you're doing now.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yes, okay.
So I basically my first part ofmy career right out of college
was with Target Corporation.
I got pregnant with my oldest,my son Camden, in college and so
I was like, wow, we're going toneed a steady, stable job with
good benefits, upward mobility,all of that.
I went to the career fair forthe first time ever and was like

(02:09):
, oh, the people at the targettable were really fun and bubbly
and they had a leadershipprogram.
So I spent a decade kind ofclimbing that corporate ladder
as a single mom and while therewas so much to be learned, so
many growth opportunities, Imean I look back on the level of
responsibility that I had, youknow, in my early 20s and I'm

(02:33):
like, well, that's throwingsomebody in the deep end for a
growth ride, you know, and so.
But I climbed that corporateladder and I was actually
running a super target in Aurora, colorado, when the Aurora
theater shooting happened and Igot a phone call at three in the
morning from my early morninglogistics executive saying,

(02:55):
brooke, you need to get down tothe store.
There's been a shooting at themall, which was right across the
street in the theater, and halfof our team was in that theater
and are unaccounted for.
And it was that collectivecommunity trauma because we

(03:16):
ended up losing a team member,and it was just absolute tragedy
for our team and our team'sfamilies and our community.
You know, your Target store islike a total pillar in the
community, absolutely Right, andso we're just so close with our
, with our guests, which are ourcommunity, and so it was that

(03:38):
experience that reallykickstarted a what I now know to
be a spiritual awakening for me.
So I stayed and I rebuilt myteam.
We rebuilt as a community.
I led them through that, as anygood empathetic leader would do
.
And then I went and got marriedand I sat on a beach in Maui
for 10 days and it was the firsttime I had regulated in,

(04:03):
probably since I was a teenagegirl, and that's when I started
remembering things from mychildhood that were not super
fun and I was like, okay, theuniverse is kicking me in the
you know what's, because I thinkthis is happening for me.
I think it's my time to not dowhat I have to do, which was

(04:25):
provide and raise my son andhave this job and make the money
and buy the house and do allthe things I want to do, what I
want to do, and so, like at thepeak of my career, I'm, you know
, the breadwinner in my family,and on my honeymoon I tell my
husband I think I need to leavemy corporate job.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Welcome to marriage.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
He's like, really I'm like, yeah, I like knew
honestly, Michelle, I like knewin my spirit that I was going to
have some deep work to dointernally to be able to curate
this external reality that I wasdesiring.
And so I took six months off towhat I call shed the corporate

(05:09):
skin.
Like I literally didn't knowwho I was.
I was like the targetdevelopment queen, slash young
mom Like that I didn't know.
Like who am I really, under myroles and my responsibilities?
What lights me up?
What are my gifts?
What brings me joy?
Am I like I was just living inshoulds and supposed tos?
And so I took six months offand then decided to go back to

(05:32):
school and get my master's incounseling psychology and then
launched my business two daysafter graduation, and that was
nine years ago.
So I've been doing the therapyand the coaching and the
facilitation and all of that forthe last nine years.
So, yeah, and I do think it'simportant to note that at the
time when the shooting happenedI was so unhealthy trying to

(05:57):
keep up with that.
You know kind of viciousburnout culture that can happen.
I feel like perfectionists andwomen and corporate America are
a combination honey Recipe.
They are a recipe for burnoutif you're not aware, if you

(06:18):
don't have boundaries, if you'renot healed Like I was literally
successful as a trauma responseis how I explain it to people.
A hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
A hundred percent.
Look, we have such similarstories and you know, a lot of
my listeners know this.
But like I didn't have any ideaof how much trauma I was dealing
with, that had been completelygone, undiagnosed, from
childhood through adolescenceinto my 20s, and I used to think

(06:49):
of it as what gave me thecompetitive edge, because I was,
like, always full of anxietyand it pushed me to work harder
until it almost pushed me overthe edge right, like it works to
a certain point until it nolonger works.
And I hit that proverbial walland a lot of people go.
But in your 20s, and I was like, yeah, I was in my late 20s and

(07:10):
I hit the wall hard and it wasthe first of many awakenings.
It wasn't the only one right,the first of many.
It got me to a new level, butthen there was a lot to deal
with and a lot to unpack that Iwasn't prepared to do right off
the bat.
In my late twenties it was alittle bit at a time over years.
Really, I always say decadesnow, but I get it.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I get it.
Yeah, we were running right.
That hustle, that edge thatyou're describing that
competitive edge is really itcan be not for every woman.
I'm speaking for myself and itsounds like you're in a similar
boat.
It's like we were just runningfrom our own anxiety in our body
, like I didn't want to be in mybody so I'm just going to go do
more and work harder and staylate and then I get promotions

(07:57):
and I get bonuses and I get allthese accolades and then that's
tied to my worth.
And so really it was me likerunning from myself and, I think
, hiding my trauma behind myaccomplishments, like my trauma.
I didn't realize it at the time, but there was a lot of shame
stuck in my body.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And talk more about that.
Where did the shame emanatefrom when?

Speaker 2 (08:20):
did it come from?
Yeah Well, I think women ingeneral carry a lot of shame.
We carry it transgenerationally.
We carry our mother's shame.
I mean, I love to ask thisquestion how many of you had a
mom who loved her body?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Oh yeah, my mom didn't know how to love herself
because back then it wasconsidered how to love herself,
because back then it wasconsidered, I would almost say,
taboo to love yourself.
You were supposed to be the onethat made the dinner, fed
everybody else and waited oneveryone else until everyone
else was fed clean up thekitchen and then maybe you got

(08:57):
to eat your meal in the corner,standing up, literally.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I'm not joking Literally.
So we've been shamed for havingneeds going back as long as
history can track.
So we have shame deep inourselves.
And then you add on ourparents' pain, shame and
suffering and theysubconsciously added to that

(09:22):
shame, not on purpose.
This isn't about blaming thegeneration, but it is about
pointing to the awareness thatwe are healing our mothers and
our grandmothers wounds and ourdaughters at the same time and
it's a big job, this generationit's a big, it's a big job.
But then you're told if you, alot of us this is an interesting

(09:44):
thing that I've observed A lotof us that are super driven,
type A perfectionistic burnoutBettys, we were big
personalities when we werelittle and if you think that
didn't get shamed in theclassroom.
I was like babbling Brooke,like it's too much, like you get
shamed for our emotions.

(10:05):
How many of us got shamed forour emotions?
They were inconvenient.
Well, I now know that myemotional sensitivity is
actually intuitive superpowers,but they were not harnessed,
they were messy.
So the shame basically starts inutero honey, and then any
trauma Stacks on top of it.

(10:26):
And so, for me, this shame thatI held in my body I was just
running from in my achievementsand then I just thought, if I
could just achieve one morething, it would mean I'm
actually a good girl because Ihad this core belief that I was
bad, I was unlovable, god didn'tlove me, all all this weird
stuff, that nobody ever saidthose things to me, but I

(10:50):
believed them.
And so, yeah, going back towhat you were saying, there's so
much unpacking that we get todo.
Once we realize like, hey, I'mproud of how I've gotten here,
but there's a better way for me.
I need to heal and become whole, and it turns out.
Underneath all of that, thereis still a spark in me, there is

(11:11):
a drive in me, there isemotionality in me, but now
they're harnessed in a beautifulway and so I can get results,
but in a way that's fun andplayful and all the other things
.
So, yeah, it's been a journey.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I love that so much.
I mean, look, there's so muchuniversality in the
vulnerability of being able tosay I lived through a lot of
trauma, and anyone who said,well, not me probably just is
nowhere the fact that they wereliving through the trauma,
because I think for a reallylong time I said I really had a
pretty good childhood all thingsconsidered, and I did.

(11:47):
That said, I am the product ofa teenage pregnancy.
There was a lot of shame for mymom.
She held a lot of shame aroundthat she was kicked out of her
school, out of her home, andthen there was a lot of pressure
on me to perform, to do thethings that she wasn't able to
do because her childhood gotcaught short.

(12:09):
And then my father working twojobs and so, while it was never
verbalized, I was absorbing thepain and then, like you, I think
, validating my existencethrough achievement.
Okay, the next thing I achieve,the next award, the next
promotion, the next scholarship,I'm going to feel a little bit

(12:30):
better and that will make mefeel whole or that will make me
get to the place where I theyknow that I'm good enough, that
I am enough and it neverhappened right.
Here's the, here's the bigspoiler alert You're never going
to earn enough of thoseexternal accolades to ever feel
like you're enough, because yourvalidation shouldn't be coming

(12:51):
from outside there, right.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's the truth bomb .
That's the truth bomb rightthere.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Okay.
So I'm curious, all religionaside, just from a spirituality
standpoint.
I'm very curious, religionaside, just from a spirituality
standpoint.
I'm very curious.
At what point did you sort ofhave that awakening of, like,
wait a minute, this is theexperience I'm having.
But my higher self, there'spart of me that recognizes

(13:17):
there's divinity.
There's divinity even in thismessy, imperfect life that I'm
living.
I'm actually a spiritual beinghaving a human experience.
Have you had that?
Did you have that?
What was it like when you kindof like, whoa, wait a minute,
there's a whole other dimension.
I'm missing in the weeds of myeveryday life.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I feel like people think a spiritual
awakening is just this, and itcan be One moment where you just
like come online and you raiseconsciousness and you see the
truth of what is.
For me, it wasn't that way.
For me it was.
It started out as a healingjourney, michelle.
It was like, oh shoot, I justremembered a bunch of things

(13:59):
from my childhood that I think Ineed to process and metabolize
out of my body, and so itstarted with therapy, and then I
like found Gabby Bernstein's.
The universe has your back.
And then Gabby Bernstein led toRebecca Campbell, which and
then that led to like MarieForleo, and all of a sudden,
just by saying yes to healing.
So I believe a spiritualawakening is really just a

(14:23):
coming home to the truth of whoyou are, and so mine was really
like long winded and unsexy.
Hey, however, you need to getthere.
That's right, and and with eachnew layer, I would have a new
teacher come into my life thatwould help me see.
Oh wow, like everything isenergy.

(14:44):
Oh wow, there is somethingdivine here orchestrating this.
Oh wow, I am the consciousnessthat is observing my thoughts,
feelings, behaviors and actions.
Oh wow, like all.
And it's just been ever sincethen.
I just keep climbing thoselevels of consciousness, but it
was really probably from like2012, which it turns out.

(15:05):
2012 is a major year that a lotof light workers had big ass
tower moments.
So look at 2012 and whathappened in your life that year
Cause, if it was a cluster Flike mine was right, like the,
the shooting tragedy, leaving mycorporate job and getting
married and remembering mytrauma all happened in one year.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
And wasn't that the year that the Mayans had
predicted was?
Going to be the end of theworld, the apocalyptic moment,
and so you kind of look at likewhat actually transpired during
that year.
What did it mean?
Because it certainly meant theend of something and the
entrance of a new ushering intoa new era of being.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's it.
So everyone focused on the end.
But with all endings come newbeginnings, and so it was a
massive awakening globally thatyear, and so, as I was healing,
I was starting to see there'spurpose behind all this madness,
like there's a reason why I hadmy son.
When I had him, there's areason why I went to Target.

(16:08):
There's a reason why I met myhusband.
There's a reason why thishappened and I ran that store
during that tragedy.
There's a reason why I'm leavingthat I have a bigger purpose
here.
I have a bigger calling here,and the more still I got here, I
have a bigger calling here, andthe more still I got, the more
healing that I did, the moreunbecoming I engaged with, that

(16:33):
started to unearth and emergelouder and louder, and continues
to do so.
So that's what it was?
It wasn't.
But then it's like gosh.
I feel like I hit anotherawakening last year.
So I I believe we go throughseveral awakenings.
Some of them are like quick,some of them are long, but
really it's like an awakening tothe truth of who you are, which
then raises your frequency andyour consciousness and your

(16:54):
divinity.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh, it's so beautifully said, brooke, and I
think you're 100% on target withthat because, if I think back
over the course of my life,there's never been a single
moment of awakening.
There've been many, some deeper, some not as deep, but
nevertheless.
I got this question on adifferent podcast that I was on,

(17:15):
and the person asked me whatwas it like when you finally
stepped into your most authenticself?
And I sat there for a moment andI said I don't know, because I
don't know that you're evergoing to get to your most
authentic self until perhaps youtransition to the next
experience of this spiritualjourney that we're on.

(17:37):
And I think I can tell you, fora matter of fact, that I'm much
more authentic than I was 20years ago or, for that matter,
five years ago or even a yearago, but that it's a constant
evolution toward authenticityand knowing the truth of who you
are and to quite franklyaccepting and remembering that

(17:58):
divinity and spiritually drivenpart of you that is connected to
all things right.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yes, yes, I completely agree.
We're never going to arrive atthis ultimate.
Here I am on top of themountain.
We're always growing andevolving and shifting and
actually one of the, I think,obstacles women face in their
ultimate becoming and theembodiment of their power and

(18:28):
potential is that we limitourselves, we don't give
ourselves permission to be awork in progress, ever growing,
ever evolving.
It's like, well, I'm a mom, soI'm supposed to be this, and I'm
a wife, so I'm supposed to bethis, and I'm a corporate leader
, so I'm supposed to be this.
And it's like corporate leader,so I'm supposed to be this.
And it's like no, queens, youget to decide today that none of
that is how you want.

(18:49):
You want to do it alldifferently.
You can parent different today,you can relate different today,
you can go for a differentcareer thing today, but we
really limit ourselves of like.
But we're supposed to be thesame what's digestible for
society, what's dependable forsociety?
And it's like no, actually, Ibelieve our purpose is to just
heal, come home and keepevolving into the truest version

(19:11):
of who we are, and I don't knowthat we're ever done with that,
but we do.
I just had a masterclass calledaudacity, because I was like
women.
We need to have the audacityhoney to permission ourselves to
grow and change and evolveforever, until we take our last
breath on this earth.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
And have that be enough as we're going through it
, because I think that that isprobably the hardest thing for
women to get is that you can bea work in progress and that is
enough at any stage.
You're in Totally At any stage,totally.
And I think that the truth bombhere is that we all, we all you

(19:52):
and me too go through thesemoments where we don't feel like
we're enough, even after havingdone the work Totally, totally.
So let's talk about that alittle bit, because I can tell
you, up and over the holidays Iwas going through it and
everyone was saying, oh my God,you know, you're just doing so
many fabulous things, you'resuch a rock star.
And I was like well, if I'msuch a rock star, why is it at

(20:14):
this very moment I'm feeling allof this anxiety or not
enoughness about one thing oranother?
Right, like we are constantlyhaving to remember that our
worth does not come from ourdoing, or it is simply because
we are, we exist, we are here.
How do you work with women onthat issue?

(20:35):
Because I do think it's an everexisting issue we all grapple
with.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, I think naming it and normalizing it primarily
is huge.
So you have a brain that hasevolved to keep you safe.
Its only function is to keepyou safe utilizing the least
amount of energy, so you have amechanism in your head that is
constantly scanning for notenoughness, constantly scanning

(21:01):
for where things could go wrong,like raise your hand if you've
got a worst case scenario.
Mind, you're not crazy, it'snot just you.
All of our brains have evolvedto do that.
So if you know that, then youhave to know, though, that
you're actually bigger than yourmind.
You're bigger than your nervoussystem.
So the mind is looking forevidence that you could be doing

(21:25):
more, that you're not enough,that it's not safe, that you're
not loved, all the things, andthen it fires up your nervous
system, and then you haveanxiety, and then we're just
spiraling and we're gettingnowhere, and then we break up
the Oreos, ladies.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, don't do that.
I do not recommend it.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, I mean talk about like working on like
things, like drinking and bingeeating, like this is what we do
to literally cope with thesevery real, very humanistic
entities.
The problem is our brains havekept evolving, even though our
environment is not as scary asit was when we were like living
the caveman and cavewoman days.
So you've got to and this iswhere I help women connect to

(22:09):
and embody what I call the innerCEO, which is the self.
If you know, internal familysystems parts work, so the self,
what I call the inner CEO, isyour spirit and it is the queen
who just she is enough.
She knows that she's enough,she's already whole, she has

(22:29):
what it takes, she trustsherself implicitly, she trusts
others Like she is the leader ofthe team, and I teach them how
to tap into her and leverage herto keep the monkey mind at bay,
to keep the fear and the egoand the wounded parts and the
protective parts.
But it is like you have torealize that you are bigger than

(22:51):
the parts of you that aretelling you the lies that you
need to do more and do it better.
That's actually a protectivepart.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Hmm, let's talk about masculine and feminine energies
, because I think so many of us,as CEO, mom bosses, are just
dripping in masculine energy andsuffering from not enough
feminine energy, or at least notallowing more of that in,
because we have been taughthistorically that that is weak.

(23:20):
It is not good enough.
Talk a little bit about theimportance of inviting both of
those into your lives in orderto create more harmony, more
self-acceptance and, frankly, toget shit done.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yes, and this is something that I am still deep
in working on, because your girl, all her protective parts are
so masculine and they getconfused with my inner CEO and
then, all of a sudden, I'maccidentally in my mask.
This is something that I haveto work on every day and

(23:56):
remembering that, as women, wewere designed to receive.
If you just look at the anatomyof the body we were designed to
receive Like if you just lookat the anatomy of the body we
were designed to receive andcreate, we were not designed to
hustle and execute andstrategize and all the things we
were literally designed toreceive.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Take good care of ourselves and create, and when
we let's just hold right there,because this is so juicy and
this is so important, and I knowthere are going to be people
that are listening, that aregoing to hear this, and it's
going to spark something and Idon't want to leave it quite yet
.
Okay, we were designeddifferently.
We were designed to receive andcreate.

(24:37):
I want everyone to just soakthat in for a moment, because we
have been historicallyprogrammed to negate that part
of ourselves and to assume thesemasculine energies as our
persona, versus allowing both tooccupy space in our lives.

(24:58):
And it's so hard to let go ofwhat the programming has created
in our lives in order towelcome back what is naturally,
innately, our most powerfulstate of being.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthat, because I think I'm just

(25:19):
fascinated with the idea of,quite frankly, everybody, men
included, have both energies,and yet we all as a society, for
winning and being successfuland doing all the things, we all
gravitate toward the masculineenergy, the do energy how do we
even get to a place where thefeminine energy is not just

(25:43):
accepted but it's revered forthe power that it has?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah, Well, before we even go into that, I want to
explain at least my philosophyand theory on why we're so
masculine.
It's like, if you look back athistory, everything was survival
, it was war and it was thegreat depression, and so it was
like you better go hunt and getshit.
We became intense because ofour environment and now we're

(26:12):
just overexercising these as away to get things done, even
though our environment hasshifted.
So step number one isremembering that we were
designed to exactly what we'resaying today receive, allow,
create, collaborate, feelpleasure.

(26:35):
And then, in order to do it,step one is we have to create
safety.
If we're not safe, we're goingto go get, and there's a lot of
different ways that we do that.
We start with creating safetyin our own bodies.
We make sure our environmentsare more safe.
We set boundaries.

(26:56):
We have to make it safe for menand women to be feminine.
We have to make it safe at work, so we have things woven in
like rest and creative time andplay and pleasure and all the
things.
So there's layers to it.
It's a complex question, but itstarts with creating safety.
And then, for women, once youcan start to create that safety,

(27:18):
it's like ladies, follow whatfeels good in your body.
It's like ladies follow whatfeels good in your body.
So many of us have becomedisconnected from our bodies
since we were little girls andwe first had the thought that we
wish our body was different.
From that moment, that preciouslittle girl started abandoning

(27:38):
her body in whatever way.
For me it went really extreme,all the way to, you know, it's
almost a deadly eating disorder,drinking problems, all of it.
For others it's just a reallynasty inner critic or, you know,
even over-exercising, rightThings like that.
But our bodies have stoppedcommunicating with us what feels
good and what pleasure is andwhat, like, the intuitive nudges

(28:01):
are, because we stoppedlistening.
So we got to slow down, createsafety and clean out the cobwebs
in our channels ofcommunication to our body, which
holds so much effing power andwisdom.
Because when you start toconnect to that, the masculine
in you gets turned on like whatI have this, like whole well of

(28:23):
power inside of me in myfeminine that I haven't even
tapped into.
But yeah, you got to have thesafety and we got to start to
rebuild trust with our bodiesand follow what feels good and
that will guide you more andmore to what is feminine and
natural and in alignment withyou and your design.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Which you know for those of you who listen in
regularly know we talk about theimportance of really letting
your intuitive part of you, themost wise part of you, have a
seat at the table.
Listen to those whispers of theheart, those whispers that and
that's what they are.
Right, they're whispers.

(29:03):
They're not jumping up and downscreaming.
They're whispers.
But those parts of you that aresaying, hey, go this way.
Even though it sounds reallycounterintuitive, it's because
it knows a better path, it knowsa shortcut, it knows the
quantum leap.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Yes, the quantum leap is so, juicy girl, we're going
there, we're going deep.
I love this we are All right.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
My friend, I want to talk a little bit more about how
you've transformed your life,and I want to understand it from
the perspective of how youcraft your day as an intuitive,
as a healer, as somebody whohelps others heal themselves.

(29:46):
How have you changed how youshow up to your day and how you
use your time?
Because I think that the switchfrom corporate to the
entrepreneurial space isn'tnecessarily a hard one.
The problem is the reasons.
Why we're drawn to it is tocreate the freedom and to have

(30:08):
more choice over how we spendour time.
And yet we know so many women inthis space bring over those
unhealthy habits and end upworking three times as hard in
the entrepreneurial space thanthey did in corporate, which has
some mandatory shutdown times.
So tell me about how you'venavigated this.

(30:32):
I know I haven't done itperfectly, but I'm getting much
better.
But tell me how you'venavigated this and what does
your day look like?
What are your non-negotiables?
What is it you've put intoplace as boundaries and
parameters in order to show upnot just for yourself, but for

(30:52):
all the women you serve.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, so it started with this deep knowing and I
feel like the more that I wassitting in the morning.
I have a daily date with thedivine.
Okay, this is like the mostimportant part of my day.
I wake up in the morning.
I have a daily date with thedivine.
Okay, this is like the mostimportant part of my day.
I wake up in the morning andthe first thing I do is make
sure that my thoughts areactually a mental projection of
what I'm creating in the field.

(31:13):
So the first thing I do is Iimagine myself in the vision
that I've created for myself,living the most alive, free,
liberated, just turned on,turned up and I connect to her
and I'm like I'm so happy andgrateful to be alive and that's
how I start my day, and I taughtmyself how to reprogram my
thoughts and beliefs by doingthis.

(31:33):
And so, because I was able, Iused to wake up every day with a
shame what did you eat lastnight, drink last night and how
short were you with the kids?
Kind of jam.
So I start with choosing mythoughts for the day.
Then I go downstairs, I getsome hot lemon water.
While it cools down.
I do meditation, I do breathwork.
I connect to the earth and tothe divine, and then I move my

(31:54):
body in ways that feel good.
Sometimes it's a gentle stretch, sometimes it's a full-on twerk
, and before I know it then I gooutside and I face the sun.
I am reporting to duty, I'mready to go, but I literally
believe now wholeheartedly thatself-care is the vehicle to

(32:14):
success for the feminine.
So I like to spend about halfmy day in play, purpose and
pleasure, and the other half inwork, which is also purpose,
though, and I also make work funtoo, but it's like half the day
I'm actually creating, withclients, leading masterminds,
doing things the other half ofthe day, and people think this

(32:35):
is crazy, but it's, and it tookme years to get here.
So I don't want to make itsound easy because it's not, but
I am just a ritual queen honey.
I have my morning ritual andthen I'll have a couple of
clients, and then I need to goon a walk, and then I have a
client, then I need to do a yogaNidra, and then I might have to
have a Real Housewives of SaltLake City, and then I.
Then I might like, yeah, Iliterally and then I go to dance

(32:59):
class and then you know, soit's like, if you really look at
my day, and then it's like Iget my girl from school and I
take her to ninja and then wehave family time and all that.
So I really number one.
I think you got to liveintentionally.
There is always time for whatmatters most.
It's just about what you'reprioritizing.
The more I take care of me, thebetter everybody else is going

(33:21):
to be in my existence.
So half my day and it's notperfect Some days I'll be like,
damn, I really booked myselfback to back all day and I'm
grateful for it and I getthrough it and I still take care
of myself.
But maybe it's a two minutebreath work instead of an hour
long walk.
But an ideal day is I have thatmorning ritual, I do some work,

(33:42):
I have lunch and a mentalhealth walk, I do some work,
then I have a yoga nidra, then Iget my girl and then I have
family time and maybe I'll doyoga or whatever.
That, about half and half, ishow I like to spend my days.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I love this and I hope everyone's listening
carefully because Brooke hasbecome an incredibly successful
entrepreneur, not by overworking, but by incorporating play and
pleasure into her day, becauseanybody who's been doing this
for any length of time, wherethey've started to turn the
corner, recognizes that joy,pleasure, all of that is the

(34:20):
portal.
It's the portal, it's the jetfuel to the next quantum.
It is not pushing yourselfharder in the grind, and that's
the thing.
I think we see the men doing itbecause they're all like grind,
hustle, grind, hustle, and itmight work for them.
They're getting somewhere.
But we are designed differentlyand while we will hustle when

(34:43):
we need to to get things donethat need to get done, pleasure
and joy are really our rocketfuel, and it is, I think, the
biggest misconception that ifyou take the time to do those
things that raise your frequencyand your vibration, somehow
you're not being disciplinedenough about your business, and
I cannot begin to stress to youthat it is the exact opposite.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
That's exactly it.
That's exactly.
I say this all the time,Michelle, I'm like your
frequency is better than anymarketing strategy.
Do you want to know why I getclients?
Not because I have the perfectwebsite, not because I have the
perfect social media, notbecause I have the perfect offer
.
It's because people see mealive and they're like what is

(35:30):
she on?
I want some of that.
That.
My energy is my best investmentin my business strategy.
Hands down, and I've done itboth ways.
I did it the hustle masculine,and this doesn't just apply to
entrepreneurs, this also appliesto my corporate women.
Oh, 100%.
The more you tend to yourfrequency and you have play and
pleasure, the more influentialyou can be for your missions on

(35:53):
your teams.
It's not about another meeting,it's about how magnetic are you
being?
Because if you're magnetic, youwon't have to try very hard to
influence your teams to get themto you know.
Number one feel invested in themission and what you guys are
doing, but to be invested in you.
And so, yeah, the play, thepleasure.

(36:15):
And then I would also say,instead of hustle, now it's
courage, it's audacity.
So I have the audacity, like Iwill just pick up my phone and
voice note you and say hey, girl, I have a retreat style
mastermind.
It is $35,000, but you're theperfect queen for it.
You want to come?
Do you know another queen whowants to come?
I'm not afraid to ask, becauseI'm so in my purpose and I know

(36:39):
this shit helps people, so thatalso helps too.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
When you know that you can help somebody get that
transformation that's going tocreate the breakthrough they
need to get to the next level ofliving, well then you don't
hold back 100%.
I do think energy is the newcurrency, right.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Everyone asks me what's the thing?
The money in the bank account?
We you know, we know is notgonna be enough.
We've experienced it.
We all you know, on some levelor another have experienced
wealth.
And so to get to a place wherewealth is really a totality and
that you realize your currencyis your energy, it's your
ability to magnetize that whichyou desire and to create

(37:22):
opportunity and bring in theright people to go on the
journey with you.
And ultimately, I think it's notonly just about coming home to
ourselves, but it's thisopportunity that we have to walk
each other home.
That's where the juicyexperience of really being in it
together is for me, of likewhen you realize you're like no,

(37:44):
no, no, you're not doing thisalone.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Come with me come with me.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Let's do this together.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yes, and this is why we're having this conversation
and I believe thiswholeheartedly is like now's the
time.
Now's the time for us women inleadership to embody our
feminine and to create a new wayto live, lead and work.
There needs to be newinfrastructure, new paradigms,
new ways in which we create, andwe are needed now more than

(38:11):
ever.
The old way isn't working.
It has us in the biggestdeficit ever and sicker than
ever where it's not working.
So now we need women to cometogether and connect and
conspire and collaborate andbring our gifts and show there
is a different way, and that'swhy I'm just like, I'm calling

(38:31):
you all forward, like let's dothis together.
Like let's create the newnormal in the way in which we
work.
It gets to be fun, it gets tofeel good and you get to have
legacy and impact.
Be fun, it gets to feel goodand you get to have legacy and
impact.
And yeah, speaking of wealth,like for me personally, the
happier I am, the I can't help,but no, it's the more money I
make.
It's like I just become amagnet when I'm not focused on

(38:55):
money.
I'm focused on, like.
Last year, my word wasaliveness.
This year it's infinity, but itwas like every day there was
intention to feel alive and thatbecame a magnet for people,
places, things, opportunities,conversations that brought
wealth in.
So to me it's like I don'tthink about making money, I
think about how I can feel themost alive, and then the money

(39:18):
comes.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I love that.
That, to me, is where it's at.
When we talk about living anextraordinary life, we're not
talking about an Instagramperfect, worthy experience.
We're really talking aboutbeing fully alive for the
experience of being human thatwe get to have on this journey
and then, through that, beingvery intentional about where we

(39:39):
put our energy and where we putour focus, and recognize that
it's in that aliveness that wecreate the magnetism to bring in
what it is we want toexperience, that we are really
creating our environment as wego, that we are the creators, we
are the Davids of our own lives.
Right, we are the masterpiecethat we're creating.

(40:02):
I love that so deeply.
All right, I'm going to beremiss if I don't ask you this.
So, first of all, I love thatyour word of the year this year.
Last year was aliveness and nowit's infinity.
Right, it's okay.
Last year, for me, was Elevateand this year it's Expand.

(40:23):
Yes, yes, girl, yes, I feel it,I feel it all.
All right, I would be moreamiss if I don't ask you this
and someone will catch me on it,because it's the question I ask
all my guests, and I forgot todo it right at the top because I
was so excited.
And that is what does it meanto you, brooke?
to live your most extraordinarylife.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, it's the perfect tie-in to what we just
talked about.
It's feeling aliveness in allthe ways always.
So, whether I'm working, I'mhere.
I'm fully here with you guys.
I am all in, I am present, andthis is such a beautiful
expansive opportunity.
When I'm reading my daughterbooks at night, I am fully with
her.
I see her beautiful eyelashesand her little freckles starting

(41:09):
to form on her nose.
When I'm on a walk, I'm juicingthe freaking moment beyond
belief.
So it's not just about the big.
I mean, I took an epic women'sretreat in Ireland last year.
That was aliveness, but it'salso, in my everyday moments, an
extraordinary life.
Let me be clear you can wantmore, better and different, and

(41:36):
we will get there by juicing thegood that's already here, the
good that's already here.
So, my you're, you don'tactually need anything to have
an extraordinary night night, anextraordinary life and night.
You've just got to see thebeauty that's here now, and that
takes presence and awareness.
But the more that you focus onthe beauty and the enoughness

(41:59):
and the gold that's here now,you become a magnet and a master
receiver for more on top ofmore, on top of more.
And so for me, infinity is likehow good does it get to get?
The better it gets, the betterit gets, the better it gets, the
better it gets, the better itgets.
So feeling alive in all theways, always, that's my
definition of an extraordinarylife right now mic drop moment,

(42:24):
mic drop moment.
Oh, how fun you get to heareverybody's answers to that.
What a juicy question.
And, like I just love theinvitation for women to ask
themselves that because we don'tLike I was just doing a live
coaching on creating your epiclife and we're starting with
vision.
I'm like when was the last time, truly, you badass woman asked

(42:49):
yourself who am I really and amI happy?
Is this my idea of anextraordinary life?
And, without shame, allowedyour real truth to emerge?
We don't do that enough.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
No, we don't, and in fact, we guilt each other when
we do so.
I'll give you a real worldexample yeah, going back to the
generational healing that needsto happen with our grandmothers,
our mothers, our daughters andso on and so forth.
Our nieces.
Yeah, after having one of mybiggest awakenings where I

(43:25):
realized that I was sacrificingfor an ideal that was never
going to be attainable.
Right, I had to have theperfect body, be the perfect
wife, be the perfect mother inthe perfect house and the
perfect neighbor and the perfectprofessional right You're like
and it's never ending.
And I was just so burnt out andeverything and I said, you know
what?
I'm going on this really juicyvacation, like juicy.

(43:46):
So we were overseas and threeweeks, three beautiful weeks, in
a time in corporate Americawhere nobody took more than 10
days, I said no, I'm going forthree full weeks and I'm not
answering the phone.
And it felt so good and Ileaned deeply into it and I
convinced my husband to do thesame and we were away for all
this time and I got back and Ihad been on yachts, I had been

(44:10):
in, you know, mansions in thewaterfront, all the things I
just said.
What do I want to experience?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I want to experience it all, not because I had to in
order to feel good but because Iwanted to.
Because you deserved it.
Because you deserved it,because you wanted to be alive.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Yes and I got well.
Aren't you lucky?
I know, I know, and I said no,I'm very intentional.
There is nothing lucky aboutwhat went down.
I was not just sitting aroundand that was dropping in.
What was happening is I wasdeciding in my mind what I
wanted to experience and then Iwas acting on it, and you would

(44:45):
be surprised at how easy itultimately was.
It didn't actually require meto have, at that point in time,
seven and eight figurebusinesses in order to make that
happen.
It's actually quite doable.
But you do need to ask and youdo need to be intentional about
what you want.
And when you say out loud whatyou want, you'll be surprised at

(45:06):
how fast the universe is readyto give it to you.
And so that's been so much ofthe perennial teaching of you
need to be able to first decidewhat you want to experience
envision it and speak life intoit, Because if you don't do that
, whatever that is whether it'sa better marriage, a beautiful

(45:27):
home, a healthy family, morebalance to your life, a healthy
body, whatever that is for me atthat moment in time it was I
want to be on an epic adventurewhere I lose myself in Europe
and I can put who I think I amon hold and allow myself to
expand to imagine what I couldbe.
Yes, I don't even know who sheis yet, but I'm excited to
expand to imagine what I couldbe.
Yes, I don't even know who sheis yet, but I'm excited to get

(45:49):
to know what she likes.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yes, so let's go have some fun.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
It was the door opener to so many more good
things.
Yes, Because I was willing todo the same thing.
Pick up the phone, in this case, walk into a store, talk to a
stranger, ask a question, sayyes to people who said well, you
seem interesting, Come todinner with us.
Or you seem interesting, Comeon our boat.
Let's talk to a random stranger.

(46:16):
My husband's like oh my gosh,are we going to get out of this
alive?
We had the most epic time.
We ended up on a yacht.
I said I wanted to be on ayacht.
I'd love to be on a yacht.
Wouldn't it be great to be on ayacht in the Mediterranean Boom
.
A guy walking by with his dogswho I said I love your dogs,
Great looking dogs.
Oh, that's my boat over there.
What are you guys?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
doing later today, I guess we're coming on your boat.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yes, yes, but we need to be able to recognize the
power in creating a vision andallowing ourselves to speak life
into it, even if it seems crazyto envision because we've never
experienced it before.
Yes, because that is the onlyway to create, and I think we

(46:56):
have taken away our ability tothink like a child, right To
suspend disbelief and allowourselves to make believe and
see what happens.
And that's where I want to play.
That's my son said the mostbeautiful thing to me about six
months ago.
I have a son.
We talked about this.
Our sons aren't too far apartin age, but mine's here in high

(47:19):
school now and he says to me mom, I don't know anybody your age
who acts more like a kid.
And I said my work is done,Thank you.
I feel like my work here isdone, Thank you so much.
Yes, that's the nicest thinganyone could say to me.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Yeah, because what you become available for in that
energy, the imagination, theimaginative play, the infinite
possibilities you become a matchfor that by allowing yourself
to be that way.
That's huge.
What a beautiful compliment.
And I want to say, when peopleare judging because you're

(47:59):
having the audacity to dream big, to vision, to stand for your
vision and to go for it, you gotto know that it means that
you're on the right track.
So their judgment is reallyjust about the envy because they
wish they could.
And so the way that I see thatbecause I trigger a lot of
people, you know, because I justsay it like it is and I'm like

(48:20):
not afraid, and so I do triggerpeople, and not on purpose.
But when people get triggered,I'm like listen, and I mean this
with love, invitation for youto look inside at where you're
not showing up for your truthand your life, and maybe this
trigger will spark something inyou where you start living your
extraordinary life and you canthank me later for this trigger

(48:42):
now.
But that judgment is to me Isee it now is like this is what
it means to be a trailblazingwoman in leadership is showing
what's possible, even when oursocietal programming judges it.
It's like I remember on my 40thbirthday I went on a solo Sedona
spiritual adventure to Miyama,which is like a gorgeous spa

(49:06):
tucked into this little canyonin Sedona, and to Miyama, which
is like a gorgeous spa, tuckedinto this little canyon in
Sedona, and in the airport I hadthis husband and wife be like
where are you off to?
I was like Sedona, it's my 40thbirthday and I'm going on a
solo spiritual adventure.
I'm going to go find myself.
I have a child, you know who'slike older now, and they were

(49:26):
like without your family.
And I looked at the woman and Isaid, without my family.
Yeah, it's going to be so good.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
She just knew she was like damn girl and there was a
transmission.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
There was a transmission heart to heart,
soul to soul, where the way she,they said it was quite snarky,
honestly, but because I was sookay with my choice and I wasn't
triggered by their lack ofunderstanding and their judgment
, we actually got to the heartto heart transmission where I
gave her permission in thatmoment to do the same.

(50:05):
And that's what we're, that'swhat we're out here to do.
When you get to be successful,living like a kid and just being
bewildered all the time, nowyou make it okay for other women
and what's possible?
Literally this is the kind ofstuff that gives me freaking
goosebumps every day.
What is possible collectivelywhen all of us women start

(50:27):
living?

Speaker 1 (50:27):
and leading in this way.
Oh my gosh.
Well, first of all, justimagine the fact that all of
these people, if we could justfor a moment suspend disbelief,
allow everybody to feel enoughhealing to step into that power
Collectively.
There'd be so much peace.
It might actually nullify a lotof the stuff we're seeing in

(50:50):
the world.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Really 100%, 100%, because, think about it If we're
not busy hating ourselves andour bodies and buying things and
judging each other andshrinking to fit, if we're not
busy doing that, what are weusing that energy for?
I'll tell you healing, I'lltell you awakening, I'll tell

(51:16):
you creating, I'll tell youcoming up with complex solutions
to complex, freaking problemsthat just come to us Sisterhood,
fricking problems that justcome to us.
Sisterhood, community, love thetruth.
That's what happens, and sothat's really what my purpose
here on the planet is to justremind us, like that's what

(51:41):
we're here to do.
Let's go, and when one womanheals, there is a ripple of good
that goes on forever and ever.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Amen for that.
Okay, there you have it.
There's so many mic dropmoments in this conversation, I
don't even want it to end butalas, we're coming to the end of
our time together.
Brooke, do me a favor.
We'll include all the links,but please let people know where
they can find you.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Yeah, so on Instagram at Brooke Jean Unperfected, I
have a podcast.
It's called the Unperfected Pod, and my website that has all my
programs and all the juicythings that we do is
liveunperfectedcom.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So just go unperfected and you can't miss
me All the links in there.
Yes, and Brooke, talk to us alittle bit about your latest
offering, because I know youjust launched the Audacity
program.
Talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah, so I'm actually currently in the launch for the
Unperfected Mastermind.
So I did the Audacitymasterclass.
Now I'm doing a five-day Createyour Epic Life challenge,
because doors close next Tuesdayso we might be launching this
after that.
So that's a six-month containerfor women to heal, become and
rise.
Lots of women who are in theirmidlife, awakening who am I,

(52:50):
what do I want to do?
Enter that container and sothen I'm going to be welcoming
in women for the alchemymastermind, which is a 12 month.
We only meet once a month, butwe do three, three day deep,
intense immersions in luxurious,beautiful places in the world

(53:10):
where you heal, become and rise,but you get out of your toxic
environment.
This is for the queen that isafraid to breathe or heal
because the house of cards isgoing to come falling down.
We're going to go to Ireland,we're going to go to the Bahamas
and we're going to get youright with yourself and then you
get to come back and see thatthe world didn't fall apart.
So doors are opening for thatin April.

(53:33):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Brooke, it's always a pleasure.
Thank you so much for your time, your insight, your wisdom,
your love.
I just I've enjoyed everyminute of it with you.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Ditto, sister, you're doing such good work in the
world.
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Thank you All right, everyone.
Until next time, go and liveyour extraordinary lives.