November 13, 2025 • 36 mins
Weight Loss Resistance, Stress, and the Mineral Patterns Behind a “Stuck” Metabolism
Today’s episode features an incredibly relatable story from Lindsay, a marriage and family therapist, military wife, mom of two, and someone who felt like she was doing everything “right”: eating well, following the plan, exercising, pushing herself… and still gaining weight, feeling exhausted, and being told her labs were “normal.”
After pregnancy and years of intense stress, deployments, and living abroad, her body felt completely out of control. Doctors offered restrictive diets, a thousand-calorie meal plan, and no real answers. Even after following those recommendations perfectly, nothing changed.
What did change?
Seeing her HTMA results and finally understanding why her metabolism was struggling and what her body needed to feel safe enough to start healing.
In this episode, Lindsay shares:
• What weight loss resistance felt like when nothing worked
• How chronic stress, postpartum depletion, and metabolism are deeply connected
• Why “normal labs” don’t tell the full story
• The moment she realized she wasn’t crazy and that she was actually depleted
• The difference mineral repletion made in her energy, digestion, mood, and confidence
• How improving her health shifted her marriage, parenting, and work life
• How she maintained her progress months later
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Dr. Heather Finley (00:03):
Welcome to the Love Your Gut Podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Heather Finley, registereddietitian and gut health
specialist.
I understand the frustration ofdealing with GI issues because
I've been there and I spent overtwo decades searching for
answers for my own gut issues ofconstipation, bloating, and
stomach pain.
I've dedicated my life tounderstanding and solving my own
(00:24):
gut issues.
And now I'm here to guide you.
On this podcast, I'll help youidentify the true root causes of
your discomfort.
So you can finally ditch yoursymptoms for good.
My goal is to empower you withthe knowledge and tools you need
so that you can love your gutand it will love you right back.
So if you're ready to learn alot, gain a deeper understanding
(00:46):
of your gut and find lastingrelief.
You are in the right place.
Welcome to the love your gutpodcast.
Welcome back to the next episodeof the Love Your Gut podcast.
I am excited for the nextinterview in our HTMA series
with Lindsay, and she's gonnatalk to us all about her
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experience with HTMA.
A little different than some ofthe other interviews that I've
done, which is why I'm superexcited about this series, just
showcasing how minerals can helpso many different things.
So, Lindsay, welcome to theshow.
Yay.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here.
Okay.
Well let's go back to just thebeginning.
So you found out about HTMA froma friend of, actually a mutual
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friend of ours.
And who's in the business space,and you were maybe curious about
HTMA testing.
I think maybe you messaged ourmutual friend about it, Lacey
actually, who is one of theother episodes, and then decided
to move forward.
So walk me through what.
Got you interested in HTMA, Iguess maybe even when you
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originally heard about it, whatyour thoughts were like, yeah.
Could this actually work?
Or what is this?
You know?
Yeah.
Well, I guess it really startswith like, the issues that I was
having is I I had a, a baby my,my second late, so I was 38 and,
and I've had just a very hardtime.
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You know, getting the weightoff.
I'm, I'm never one that says Ineed to return to like, you
know, get my body back or returnto my pre baby body.
But it's, you know, theunhealthy weight that doesn't
feel good that I feel on my bodyand I just didn't love it.
Some, feeling really lethargic.
I.
I, I've never been regular interms of bowel movements.
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I go from, constipated to, I, Iwas just having all of these
issues and I went to multipledoctors about it and they would
do my blood work and they wouldsay everything is normal.
You are absolutely normal.
And so I would kind of keeppoking.
I kept pushing and they evensent me to this thing called the
(03:00):
BOD Pod, where you basically sitin this egg and they give you
like all of your stats.
They, and they put me on a very,very strict diet, which to be
honest, I would never maintainlong term.
They like very strict exercise.
Like they did all this stuff andI did it to a TI did every
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single thing they said.
I went back two months later andI had gained weight.
I had gained inches, likenothing.
And they basically were like,well, we don't know.
Like, you're like, this is justyou now.
And so.
I was just feeling really likefrustrated that, you know, here
I am in my early forties andyou're telling me that like,
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there's nothing that I can do.
I just have to be okay withthis.
And so it was really hopeless,to be honest.
And so I saw Lacey, in one ofher stories she had mentioned
that she had done the HCMA test.
And, even talked a little bitabout her results and how things
had been missed for her thatwere, so, it kind of like was
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all of the things that was like,okay, maybe this can be the
thing.
And what I was most concernedabout,'cause you had said, when
I heard of the test, I thinkwhat I was most concerned is
that I would do it, it wouldcome back and again, it would be
like everything is normal.
And that was, I think what I wasthe most nervous about was that
I, it felt like it was like mylast hope kind of thing to
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actually give me answers for whyI was experiencing the symptoms
that I was experiencing.
I love that you said thatbecause that is the experience
that so many of our clientshave.
What, regardless of what programthey're working with us in, is I
went to the doctor, I told themmy symptoms, they told me I was
normal.
They told me to do X, Y, Z, arestricted diet, this random
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medication, something like notsustainable.
And it didn't work.
And then I felt really hopelessand I was really scared to try
other testing because it feelslike very almost rejecting when
you get results back that tellyou you're normal.
You start to feel a little bitcrazy.
Mm-hmm.
But that's the thing that I loveabout really all the testing
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that we do.
But HTMA specifically is.
There really is no normal.
The interesting part is likeit's all about the patterns and
all about how those patterns areshowing up in your body because
it's not necessarily adiagnostic test.
Like we're not diagnosingsomeone with thyroid issues or
whatever issue.
We're looking at how yourminerals are working together
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and.
Obviously we can get them asclose to balanced as possible,
but minerals are dynamic too.
So no one is ever like quoteunquote perfect.
Yeah.
And so yeah, we've never had aquote unquote normal test,
which, is, is actually a goodthing because then you get the
results back and you're like,okay, there's actually something
that I can do about this.
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Yes.
I think that meeting, when wewent over my results, I think
that was probably one of themost validating meetings that I
have had where it was like this,you are low in this and that
explains this.
Symptom, I'm low on this.
That explains, it was like yes.
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Like you're, that's exactlyright.
And it makes sense and it goestogether and, and there is
something that then I can doabout it.
So it not only made sense of thesymptoms that I was having, but
it gave me that path to likechange things to actually like
feel better.
Totally.
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Okay.
So you did the test.
Which, involved obviouslycutting your hair and sending it
into the lab.
I've asked a couple other peoplethis on these interviews, but
were you scared to cut your hairor were you like, okay, I'm
willing to try anything?
I was willing to try anything,but I think I was the most
scared because my husband did itfor me.
Like I didn't I was, I was notgoing to cut my own hair, but he
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did it.
It was funny because I couldlike, feel, I'm like touching
where it was.
I could feel, it's, like itshort and it, I, my, I, my
finger would naturally go therefor like several weeks until it
grew out.
But it wasn't bad, right?
Like you couldn't tell and it,it was like, it was super easy.
And yeah, I would, I would do itagain.
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But yeah, in the moment it wasweird and I made my husband do
it the dirty work.
It's a good test to yourmarriage, which is ironic
because that's what you do.
You're a marriage therapist andyou help people with their
marriages, so you know, you'rejust doing the work, practicing
what.
It's like a marriage trust fall.
Right?
Like cut my hair and have it be,hey, I had to do his during
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COVID.
So it was only fair.
He, he re repay the favor.
Yes, totally.
Okay.
So you said that the appointmentwas super validating because you
were able to see this is low andit causes this symptom, this is
off and it causes this symptom.
What was something maybe thatstuck out to you or surprised
you about your results?
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If, if anything.
I honestly was surprised at howlow I was because I feel like I
am really conscious of a lot ofstuff, and so I.
Mean, now in hindsight it'slike, of course I, I wasn't like
at that really deep cellularlevel, but like, I, I just, I
was surprised at how low I was.
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I was also surprised in what Iwas, really low in like sodium.
I feel like I eat, I eat a lotof salt, I eat.
So it just was never something Iwould have thought about before.
And even when she was talkingabout, you're not gonna get this
because this one's low.
And so, so it was even like theinteraction of them together.
(08:47):
So like, your vitamin isn'tgoing to cut it because you're
not getting, you know, it waslike that kind of stuff that
was, was surprising to me.
Yeah, like an example that wesee a lot, and this may or may
not have been the case for you,but we have a lot of clients
that come to us.
Similar thing, they'reconstipated, you know, they feel
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like they never have beenregular in their life and
they're taking tons of magnesiumand they're like.
Why can't I still go to thebathroom?
Or why do I flip from like oneend to another?
And it actually has a lot moreto do with their boron and their
sodium than it does withmagnesium because those things
help with absorption.
And so most of the time we'reactually answering and, and
looking for the answer to thequestion of like, why are you
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not responding to this mineral?
And it has a lot to do with theother minerals.
Exactly.
Well, and, and that's the thingis if you have this, take this
if you have, right?
Like that's kind of the what'sout there.
Or even just, just take themultivitamin and it was, being
able to kind of see it play outand like I'm, I'm doing all of
these things that don't evenmatter because I'm, these other
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things are low or I'm notmanaging them.
So I think it was a really good.
For me to even see like thatwhole picture of my own health
and then, the, with the symptomsbeing like the end of it, right?
Mm-hmm.
Instead of like, that was myonly focus.
Like, I can't lose this weight,I can't, that kind of thing.
Well, and you had been told,okay, you did the BOD Pod, and
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they're like, eat this superrestricted diet.
You did it.
Then it ended up backfiring andmaking things worse, which just
shows how much like it is, ofcourse about what you eat, but
it's so much more aboutmetabolism and hormones and how
your body is actuallyfunctioning.
And if you're super depletedlike you were, of course your
body's not gonna prioritizeweight loss if it's already
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depleted.
I have to make sure that I'msurviving and that is not a
priority right now.
So you go from being superfrustrated that you're being
diligent following the plan to aT, like every type A girly does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you're like, I'm noteven getting the benefit of
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this.
So I imagine that was superfrustrating.
It.
I would say that, you know, ifwe really even go into like the
mental health of all of that,like it, it really starts to
mess with you because you lose Idon't have hope to change
things.
Now you feel really out ofcontrol and when you feel really
right, like the.
Cascade event.
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It's not just, it's, it's notjust like this weight that I'm
carrying.
Becomes this I don't havecontrol over my own body.
I don't have control, the diet,if I were, I mean, it was like a
thousand calories a day.
Yeah.
Which is, it was like less thanyour toddler low.
Yes, exactly.
I even had to kind of push back,are you sure?
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This doesn't seem really healthyto me.
Like I'm active.
I have a kid I work out like,and it, so it just wasn't the
way, and I'm like, they're,these are supposed to be the
experts that are helping me and,and I am now out of control and
they can't help me.
Right.
Like it really just takes you tothese levels of like
hopelessness.
(11:58):
You lose motivation to want totry you, right?
Like the trickle down of.
Effect is kind of scary.
And I'm glad that I saw thatstory when I did because it got
me out of it, it gave me like I,it gave me that motivation back.
But I don't know what would'vehappened if, if I, if I hadn't
seen that, you know?
(12:19):
Totally.
Yeah.
It's like then you just feelstuck and like you said, out of
control, like what is happeningto my body.
I think we might've been jokingabout this when I was on your
podcast, but how we're alltortured by like all the
perimenopause content online.
Yes.
And a, a lot of the messages outthere like, yeah, you're
perimenopausal, so that's whyyou feel this way.
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But then there's not a lot ofhope of like, and the solution
is, you know?
Yes.
Yeah.
And especially for.
A lot of the clients that wesee, and I said this actually on
Lacey's episode as well, is theworst, and I say worst in quotes
because there's really not goodand bad when it comes to
minerals, but I guess a betterway to say it, the most depleted
tests that we see are moms whoare entrepreneurs, and it's like
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the same.
Personality traits that made yousuccessful as a female
entrepreneur are also the sametraits that are depleting your
body.
So it's like you're kryptonite alittle bit as well.
And you're, you're a go-getter.
You are an achiever and you'relike, I'm following the plan and
it's not working.
So yeah, it feels super outtacontrol.
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Yeah.
I like a plan.
I like to have, the, the way thesteps and.
And I was doing all of the onesthat, that, that my doctor was
giving me the, I saw anutritionist.
I was literally doing all of thestuff.
Okay, so you, so you had yourappointment, you got your
recommendations.
You felt like, okay, I at leastunderstand why I am having these
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symptoms.
And we gave you recommendationsfor.
Mineral support as well asnutrition, lifestyle, et cetera.
How did you feel about therecommendations?
Did you feel like they were easyto follow?
Did you feel like it waschallenging to make these
changes?
Be honest, like, walk us throughNo, I Your thought process, I
mean, again, I did this likeridiculous diet for like, it was
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two months, eight weeks.
And so honestly for me it felteasier than.
A lot of the other things that,that I had been asked to do.
The, the hardest part is that Iam sort of sensitive to taste
and the mineral supplements donot taste great.
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And so I, it took me a while Ithink to figure out.
How to, to get that down and howto want to get that down.
And that was probably thehardest part, to be honest.
What worked for you?
Because I know we have peoplelistening that already have
their minerals because they'reworking with us.
How did you make it tastebetter?
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How did you.
What was your concoction?
Because everybody has their ownthing.
Some people will just put theircustom blend into a little bit
of water and take it like ashot.
Some people will mix it into asmoothie.
Some people like sip on it allday with a lot of water.
Some people add other flavoring.
What was your strategy?
So the smoothie was the best forme'cause then I just couldn't
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taste it at all.
You do it like twice a day.
And so I didn't want to have twosmoothies a day, and so I would
they, it come some like stuffthat you can put in that makes
them taste better.
And then that I would also addlike water or just something
else that would even dilute iteven more.
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And I just shoot it.
I just had to, one gulp for me.
I could, if I had to.
Sip that thing all day.
It would never have been drunk.
That's the exact thing thatLacey said.
She said, I could have,something disgusting for two
seconds of my day to feelbetter.
It was worth it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny because it, it alsodepends on what we put in it,
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but some people are like, oh mygosh, it was terrible.
And other people are like, well,I started craving it after a
while.
I'm like, oh, that'sinteresting.
So yeah, I mean, it definitelywas something that I wanted to.
Take.
So again, there was that likemotivation there to, to want to
figure it out.
I had figured out like anafternoon or an evening smoothie
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that wouldn't, so it didn't haveas much like stuff in it to fill
me up, but that, would stillkind of cut the taste.
So I.
I, I figured it out in, in a waythat feels good, but yeah, I the
quicker, the better, so tospeak.
Totally.
Okay, so you started taking it.
What did the trajectory looklike?
I know you were noticing changeslike in energy and how you felt.
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Everyone's trajectory is alittle bit different.
Sometimes people notice changes,like right away.
Sometimes people, it takeslonger just depending on.
Of course their genetics andtheir lifestyle and their diet
and all the things.
But what did the progress looklike for you?
So one thing that I think wasreally helpful is I actually put
in, in my calendar, I like areminder to like check in with
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myself each month.
'cause I feel like the resultsare so.
Slow almost in the sense thatyou're not gonna notice it every
day.
But when I got to that month andI looked back and it was like,
oh, I have had more energy.
Lately I have, I, I've seenmyself being able to do this.
My I'm starting to be maybe alittle bit more regular than I
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was before.
I would say the most noticeablewithout having to like check in
with myself was definitely afterthe three months, I, that was
when I really started to belike, okay, I feel a difference.
I feel like I, I, I was startingto see some of this resisted
weight even, I felt like it, Ijust.
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Not that it was like gone butthat it, I feel like it, things
were starting to move, whereasbefore they were not awesome.
I love that.
And I mean, honestly, that's,that's what you want.
You want that slow, steadychange that all of a sudden you
look back and you're like, ohyeah, I'm not crashing at 2:00
PM like I was or Oh yeah.
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I.
I'm sleeping a lot deeper.
I wake up feeling more restedand it's like that steady change
where it's not necessarilyovernight.
You're not necessarily waking upone day and being like, I feel
like a completely differentperson.
But then if you look back acouple months, you're like, I
feel like a complete person.
I am person.
Yeah.
I feel, and I feel like,honestly, me being kind of the
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marriage psychologist that I am,I.
Because this happens with likethe relationships that I work
with too, is like maybe even dayto day they don't notice a big
change yet, especially whenthings have been so bad and
you're starting to like make thechanges.
It's not like you all of asudden change the dynamic and
everything feels good, right?
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And so I always say you have toset these kind of moments where
you look back and say, what'sdifferent than when we started,
okay this is getting better.
How do we build off that?
So I think it just sort of lendswell to me saying I know that
it's not gonna be this overnightaha.
Everything's great.
Like no issues.
But you know, I, made a point tocheck in with myself and then,
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but like the actual, when Ididn't have to check in, like it
was then like, I don't.
I'm one of those weirdos that I,I don't drink coffee.
And so even then, like I, Ijust, I need it even less than
maybe I, because I had started,I had started to drink coffee.
Not'cause I necessarily wantedto, but man, I was just dragging
so much and I just like, again,that's, I, that's gone.
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I just don't need it anymore.
So like those things becameobvious, but they weren't at
first.
Yeah.
Well, so back to marriage andbeing a marriage therapist.
So you had me on your podcastrecently and we talked about how
when you feel better, yourrelationships can be better.
And obviously that's wayoversimplified.
But from your perspective,obviously you had me on to talk
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about that for a reason.
So what do you see, I'm sure youwork with a lot of women that
are in our age range, in thisperimenopausal age range where
they probably had a couple kids.
It probably don't feel supergood And that affects how they
show up in their relationships.
Totally.
It probably affects how theyshow up and I know it shows up
and how they perform at work andeven like their fuse with
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mothering, like their nervoussystem fuse where they're like,
every little thing kind of setsme off.
So I'd love to just hear fromyour perspective what and why
like health and mental healthreally have to be married
together.
Totally.
I think that if, even if I justspeak for myself first I think
that.
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I, when I'm not super happy inmyself, I, I was looking for
kind of my, my spouse tovalidate to fill in that gap
that maybe used to be there.
And, he's not used to doingthat, nor could he really ever
actually do that.
Right?
Like, he can't make me be happywith myself.
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But there was more kind ofpressure on him to do that and
when that wasn't happening,right?
Like it can just kind of createsome.
Some disconnection, but like ifyou think about intimacy and
wanting to like I just wasn'tcomfortable with myself and I
was tired and I was grumpy, andit certainly would show up in my
parenting and I might be moresnippy than I wanted to be, or
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I'd lose patience quicker.
Or I, I find this a lot with thecouples that I work with, where
they're, like not wanting to getclose to their.
Spouse, they just don't feel,they don't feel good in their
body.
They don't feel good, and, and alot of people aren't giving them
any solutions for that.
And it's one thing to say like,love yourself.
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Yes.
Like, I worked on that everysingle day.
But it does, it's, it's hard.
It's hard when you're feelinghopeless that like, this is just
it, this is, this is just it forme.
And I don't like it.
I'm not actually happy with it.
Well, and especially if there'ssomething physiologically going
on, like I'm all about lovingyourself and body positivity and
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all of those things, and likedefinitely think that that's a
piece of the puzzle.
100%.
Totally.
But at the same time, if there'ssomething physiologically going.
Wrong, or there's somethingunder the surface where your
thyroid isn't right or yourhormones aren't right, and your
blood sugar's all over theplace.
And a lot of that starts withmineral imbalances and you can
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fix that.
Totally.
Like there's something to besaid for doing both.
Yeah.
I just think that it, it's sorelated, like talking about like
how hopeless I was like that wasinfluencing my marriage, right?
Like, and just not being happy.
I just think.
That and it was influencing,like how I showed up at work.
It was influencing.
It's just like, it just theyplay off of each other so much
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and even as I'm feeling morehopeful now, that's also
translated in all of these otherareas and I think that, we tend
to like really even just likethis, right?
If we were just to say the guthealth and your poops and your
bloating and but like, even thatinfluences so many other things
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and I think we just don't alwayslook at that full picture and
it's really doing a disservicenot because I, it mine were so
like playing off of each other.
And then bad habits startbecause now I'm feeling bad
about this, which create, it'sjust like you can't have one
without the other.
Totally, totally.
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So you did your HTMA aroundMarch.
I think your, your appointmentwas, I was gonna say, I think
I'm like due probably for afollow up.
So, that's what I wanna talkabout where you're at now, so
you did the appointment aroundMarch, mid-March, and you did
your minerals.
You noticed a big change aroundthe three month mark.
(23:54):
Obviously it's been longer thanthree months, we're now about.
It's October 30th when we'rerecording this yeah.
Almost November.
Where are you at now?
Like how are you feeling?
Do you feel like you, theresults have lasted even after
you stopped the mineral powder?
Do you feel like, you're addingin more minerals even into your
day-to-day food intake and allof that?
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I think that that's sort of whatI.
I, I did my, you know, I did myfull mineral that you get it in
a big tub.
And then what I really focusedon is because they, what I got
was a whole list of recipes and,things to, when once I finished,
I've been really like, can Imaintain this on my own?
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And that's really what I wannasee when I go into when I do my
follow up one, I wanna see was,'cause I know that I was better,
based on just what I wasexperiencing.
I still feel good right now.
But I would like to see is can Imaintain this with my own diet,
my own stuff, or do I need, justthe constant kind of
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supplementation to maintainthat.
And so that's where I am rightnow, just in the journey of, of
all of this.
Totally, and I, I said thisslightly on another episode, but
I think it's kind of a both andsituation.
So the only way that our bodygets minerals is through food,
and there are certain times inour lives that are just more
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depleting than others.
So, yeah.
Obviously being pregnant,postpartum nursing, lack of
sleep, a stressful time periodin your life can be another one.
You're depleting more mineralswhen you're stressed, and so
your mineral needs go up.
We also know that our food isnot as mineral rich as it once
was.
Which, but that also doesn'tmean that we can't get what we
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need from food.
We just have to be reallyintentional with it, which is
why we give our clients so manydifferent lists and recipes and
ideas because it doesn'tactually have to be that
complicated.
It could look like, especiallypotassium.
That's a big mineral that somany people are low in, like
just adding in a potassium richfood to every single meal,
whether that's sweet potatoes oravocados, or coconut water,
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bananas, whatever it might be.
And that would be the goal,right?
To be able to maintain and thenoccasionally reset if you need
to, or, supplement a little bitbased on, the patterns that your
body's showing.
Of course, genetics play a rolein that as well.
But I'm really excited to seehow things have maintained over
the last couple months too.
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Yeah, me too.
I think that, again, I feelgood.
I'm also in a very differentlife.
I like that you said, like italso depends on, the, the
circumstance I.
When I did my appointment, I wascoming off of, and even when,
when we did the test, my husbandis in the military and he, we
were in a tour where he did intwo and a half years, he
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deployed three times, so he wasgone every six months for those
two and a half years, and wewere in Japan.
It was all on me.
I had a one month old when heleft the first time, and so to
say that it was like probablythe most.
Stressful, chaotic time of mylife would be an understatement.
Whereas now we have moved and heis home.
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It's two 30 as we're recordingthis and he is already home from
work'cause he's helping to takecare of our sick daughter who's
home and I I, right, like we're,I'm just in even a completely
different life space.
And so I think this is what'sgonna be interesting when I do
my next test is.
In like maybe an easier life canI maintain, but I would guess is
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if I was still in thatstressful, I think I, I don't
think there's any way that justdiet alone would've.
Been enough.
So this is like the true can Imaintain when everything is good
and normal and if I can't, thenthat really shows me, right?
Like I just need the constant,you know, supplementation and
that's okay.
I am okay with that.
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Well, and it doesn't always haveto be a custom blend, it could
be like figuring out exactlywhat multivitamin fits your
needs as close to optimal, orwhich, yeah, mineral mocktail is
gonna be the best thing for youto make.
You know, totally on aconsistent basis or some very,
just a handful of targetedsupplements for you that you
take for a certain amount oftime.
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There's always options, andthat's, yeah, that's the beauty
of it, is you can do, and wehave some clients that come to
us and they're like notinterested in doing a custom
blend.
I only wanna take max threesupplements and I wanna do it
mostly through food.
And I'm like, you go, girl.
I know you can do.
It's just gonna take some.
Planning.
Yeah.
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And strategy.
Yeah.
But it's not hard, once you getin a groove of it the custom
blend obviously just makesthings really convenient.
Totally.
And sometimes you do need abulldozer to come in and I, that
was definitely the case with youcoming off, man.
That just makes me feelstressed, thinking about having
a one month old and my husbanddeploying like, oh, oh my gosh.
I needed to get to likesurviving, you know, I needed to
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get to, well, I maybe even likecloser to thriving than I was.
And I think like that's where Igot and, and I love the idea of
even being able to say thatthough, that maybe it doesn't
have to be a custom blendforever.
That it can be kind of thesedifferent options.
And that probably is what Iwould even talk about.
Can I get a pill that I don'thave to, can I get, which, I
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mean, there's hundreds ofmultivitamins, right?
Yeah.
Sometimes it's just answeringthe question of which
multivitamin works best for me?
Like probably just Googling bestmultivitamin for women.
Age 40 is not your best optionbecause your needs are gonna be
different than somebody else whois, is the same age and
different lifestyle anddifferent genetics and all the
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things.
But if we can see on paper like,okay.
Yeah, this one is more targetedto your needs, or this one
isn't.
It makes it pretty simple.
Totally.
We have a whole spreadsheet ofall the differences.
Oh, that's cool.
And you know, it's like veryeasy to pick.
So, yeah.
But I think like this is.
What is so great about what youdo is like, the data just
doesn't lie and there is ananswer and a solution.
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Like I'm going and I'm lookingat all of these multivitamins on
my own right, and I have no ideaI'm just like guessing.
I'm guessing which one, like thebottle looks nice or what, which
one is, mid range so that it's,I.
I have no idea.
And I love being able to, evenwith that, right?
It's so much more intentional.
I'm taking this exactmultivitamin because it's
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exactly what my body needs.
Like it's just, I don't know whythis isn't like everywhere.
Right?
It would be so nice.
It would, it honestly would savepeople a lot of time and a lot
of effort into just know.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
A lot of just really thatheartbreak that, that heartbreak
to say I remember I literally, Isaid to my doctor, what else can
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we do?
And they were like nothing.
Like, I think it's just yourage.
You just, it's just fine likethat.
It is it's heartbreaking.
It's absolutely heartbreaking.
Okay.
So I'm gonna be like, I'm gonnalook like I'm five months
pregnant every single day.
And this is fine for you.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't buy in.
I'm glad I didn't buy it.
I was just about to say that.
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I'm glad you didn't.
I'm glad that sometimesInstagram has some positives of
like finding solutions tothings.
Anything that we didn't coverthat you think would be helpful
for somebody listening who'scurious about mineral testing or
maybe skeptical or wants tomaybe try it out for themselves?
I think that in this day and agelike there's a lot of we are
(31:35):
going to just sell you asolution and.
I think that a lot of us areskeptical about that because
maybe even we've been burned orlike I just can't be sold on
anything anymore.
And I just feel like this is sonot that this is really taking
like.
What your body is doing andsaying we're not gonna just sell
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you on our thing.
We're going to help you based onwhat you actually need.
And so I get why people, mightbe skeptical about stuff, but I
just can we put this, can we,and it like completely different
category of of stuff.
I love that.
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, that means a lot becauseit is hard.
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I mean, the internet is a wild,wild place right now.
Welcome.
I feel like people have losttrust in a lot of things because
there is so much like quick fixthis, quick fix that like this
is gonna solve every problemthat you have.
And yeah, I'm not saying thatminerals are gonna solve every
problem that you have, but theydo help.
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You know, they do make adifference.
So only help to, I think for meit helped to then be able to do
the other stuff, right?
As things started to.
Shift.
I was more motivated to like,work out.
I was more motivated to continuewith the healthy eating that I
am doing now.
I have the energy to kind of runaround with my kids, which is
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what I want.
So I, matters and.
To be told.
And I think that's the otherthing too, is it's really easy
to just lose hope when you'retold that there's nothing that
you can do.
And so I just think just becauseyou are not the expert in that
doesn't mean that you don't,you're not the expert in your
own body.
And if, if things don't feelright, like this could give you
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the answers that you've actuallybeen looking for, you know?
Yeah, I love it.
Well, Lindsay, I know that youhave an online business as well
and maybe people wanna check youout.
So tell us where like they canlearn about you, find out about
you.
And thank you so much forjumping on today.
This has been great.
Yeah.
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So I am on Instagram underMarried After Kids.
You can also find my websitewww.marriedafterkids.com.
And essentially I just helpparents who are struggling in
their marriage.
Like it, there's a lot ofsystemic stress that is placed
on a marriage after you havekids and no one teaches you how
to.
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Navigate it.
And so that is what I do is Ihelp you navigate it.
I help you to put the righttools and things in place to be
able to not only function as ateam, to just be really happy
together.
So it makes parenting easier, itmakes life easier.
Just everything gets easier.
I love that.
We all need that so much.
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Thanks, Lindsay.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
I hope you enjoyed thisconversation with Lindsay, and
maybe it got you thinking aboutyour own metabolism, your own
stress, and why your body mightbe resisting weight loss, or you
might just feel puffy orinflamed when your labs are
coming back normal.
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One of the things that reallystuck out to me with this
episode was that.
For Lindsay, it wasn't reallythe weight, it was just feeling
totally out of control and beingreally given only super extreme
options that were notsustainable.
If you heard her story andthought, that is me, this is
your reminder that you are notcrazy, you are not broken, and
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there are answers.
We have our Black Friday sale onHCMA, coming up on actual Black
Friday, November 28th.
This is our biggest sale of theentire year.
It is the perfect chance to getyour own mineral test,
understand your own patterns,and finally see why your body
feels the way that it does.
You can join the wait listthrough the link in the show
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notes wait.
Listers will get first accesswhen the sale goes live, and
once those spots are gone.
They are gone.
So if you've been wonderingwhether minerals could be the
missing piece in your energymetabolism or even gut issues,
make sure you get on the waitlist.
And thanks for tuning in.
I am so excited for next week aswe continue the Mineral series.
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So make sure to listen in.
Welcome to the Love Your Gut Podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Heather Finley, registereddietitian and gut health
specialist.
I understand the frustration ofdealing with GI issues because
I've been there and I spent overtwo decades searching for
answers for my own gut issues ofconstipation, bloating, and
stomach pain.
I've dedicated my life tounderstanding and solving my own
(00:24):
gut issues.
And now I'm here to guide you.
On this podcast, I'll help youidentify the true root causes of
your discomfort.
So you can finally ditch yoursymptoms for good.
My goal is to empower you withthe knowledge and tools you need
so that you can love your gutand it will love you right back.
So if you're ready to learn alot, gain a deeper understanding
(00:46):
of your gut and find lastingrelief.
You are in the right place.
Welcome to the love your gutpodcast.
Welcome back to the next episodeof the Love Your Gut podcast.
I am excited for the nextinterview in our HTMA series
with Lindsay, and she's gonnatalk to us all about her
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experience with HTMA.
A little different than some ofthe other interviews that I've
done, which is why I'm superexcited about this series, just
showcasing how minerals can helpso many different things.
So, Lindsay, welcome to theshow.
Yay.
Thank you.
I'm so excited to be here.
Okay.
Well let's go back to just thebeginning.
So you found out about HTMA froma friend of, actually a mutual
(01:32):
friend of ours.
And who's in the business space,and you were maybe curious about
HTMA testing.
I think maybe you messaged ourmutual friend about it, Lacey
actually, who is one of theother episodes, and then decided
to move forward.
So walk me through what.
Got you interested in HTMA, Iguess maybe even when you
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originally heard about it, whatyour thoughts were like, yeah.
Could this actually work?
Or what is this?
You know?
Yeah.
Well, I guess it really startswith like, the issues that I was
having is I I had a, a baby my,my second late, so I was 38 and,
and I've had just a very hardtime.
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You know, getting the weightoff.
I'm, I'm never one that says Ineed to return to like, you
know, get my body back or returnto my pre baby body.
But it's, you know, theunhealthy weight that doesn't
feel good that I feel on my bodyand I just didn't love it.
Some, feeling really lethargic.
I.
I, I've never been regular interms of bowel movements.
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I go from, constipated to, I, Iwas just having all of these
issues and I went to multipledoctors about it and they would
do my blood work and they wouldsay everything is normal.
You are absolutely normal.
And so I would kind of keeppoking.
I kept pushing and they evensent me to this thing called the
(03:00):
BOD Pod, where you basically sitin this egg and they give you
like all of your stats.
They, and they put me on a very,very strict diet, which to be
honest, I would never maintainlong term.
They like very strict exercise.
Like they did all this stuff andI did it to a TI did every
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single thing they said.
I went back two months later andI had gained weight.
I had gained inches, likenothing.
And they basically were like,well, we don't know.
Like, you're like, this is justyou now.
And so.
I was just feeling really likefrustrated that, you know, here
I am in my early forties andyou're telling me that like,
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there's nothing that I can do.
I just have to be okay withthis.
And so it was really hopeless,to be honest.
And so I saw Lacey, in one ofher stories she had mentioned
that she had done the HCMA test.
And, even talked a little bitabout her results and how things
had been missed for her thatwere, so, it kind of like was
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all of the things that was like,okay, maybe this can be the
thing.
And what I was most concernedabout,'cause you had said, when
I heard of the test, I thinkwhat I was most concerned is
that I would do it, it wouldcome back and again, it would be
like everything is normal.
And that was, I think what I wasthe most nervous about was that
I, it felt like it was like mylast hope kind of thing to
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actually give me answers for whyI was experiencing the symptoms
that I was experiencing.
I love that you said thatbecause that is the experience
that so many of our clientshave.
What, regardless of what programthey're working with us in, is I
went to the doctor, I told themmy symptoms, they told me I was
normal.
They told me to do X, Y, Z, arestricted diet, this random
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medication, something like notsustainable.
And it didn't work.
And then I felt really hopelessand I was really scared to try
other testing because it feelslike very almost rejecting when
you get results back that tellyou you're normal.
You start to feel a little bitcrazy.
Mm-hmm.
But that's the thing that I loveabout really all the testing
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that we do.
But HTMA specifically is.
There really is no normal.
The interesting part is likeit's all about the patterns and
all about how those patterns areshowing up in your body because
it's not necessarily adiagnostic test.
Like we're not diagnosingsomeone with thyroid issues or
whatever issue.
We're looking at how yourminerals are working together
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and.
Obviously we can get them asclose to balanced as possible,
but minerals are dynamic too.
So no one is ever like quoteunquote perfect.
Yeah.
And so yeah, we've never had aquote unquote normal test,
which, is, is actually a goodthing because then you get the
results back and you're like,okay, there's actually something
that I can do about this.
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Yes.
I think that meeting, when wewent over my results, I think
that was probably one of themost validating meetings that I
have had where it was like this,you are low in this and that
explains this.
Symptom, I'm low on this.
That explains, it was like yes.
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Like you're, that's exactlyright.
And it makes sense and it goestogether and, and there is
something that then I can doabout it.
So it not only made sense of thesymptoms that I was having, but
it gave me that path to likechange things to actually like
feel better.
Totally.
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Okay.
So you did the test.
Which, involved obviouslycutting your hair and sending it
into the lab.
I've asked a couple other peoplethis on these interviews, but
were you scared to cut your hairor were you like, okay, I'm
willing to try anything?
I was willing to try anything,but I think I was the most
scared because my husband did itfor me.
Like I didn't I was, I was notgoing to cut my own hair, but he
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did it.
It was funny because I couldlike, feel, I'm like touching
where it was.
I could feel, it's, like itshort and it, I, my, I, my
finger would naturally go therefor like several weeks until it
grew out.
But it wasn't bad, right?
Like you couldn't tell and it,it was like, it was super easy.
And yeah, I would, I would do itagain.
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But yeah, in the moment it wasweird and I made my husband do
it the dirty work.
It's a good test to yourmarriage, which is ironic
because that's what you do.
You're a marriage therapist andyou help people with their
marriages, so you know, you'rejust doing the work, practicing
what.
It's like a marriage trust fall.
Right?
Like cut my hair and have it be,hey, I had to do his during
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COVID.
So it was only fair.
He, he re repay the favor.
Yes, totally.
Okay.
So you said that the appointmentwas super validating because you
were able to see this is low andit causes this symptom, this is
off and it causes this symptom.
What was something maybe thatstuck out to you or surprised
you about your results?
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If, if anything.
I honestly was surprised at howlow I was because I feel like I
am really conscious of a lot ofstuff, and so I.
Mean, now in hindsight it'slike, of course I, I wasn't like
at that really deep cellularlevel, but like, I, I just, I
was surprised at how low I was.
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I was also surprised in what Iwas, really low in like sodium.
I feel like I eat, I eat a lotof salt, I eat.
So it just was never something Iwould have thought about before.
And even when she was talkingabout, you're not gonna get this
because this one's low.
And so, so it was even like theinteraction of them together.
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So like, your vitamin isn'tgoing to cut it because you're
not getting, you know, it waslike that kind of stuff that
was, was surprising to me.
Yeah, like an example that wesee a lot, and this may or may
not have been the case for you,but we have a lot of clients
that come to us.
Similar thing, they'reconstipated, you know, they feel
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like they never have beenregular in their life and
they're taking tons of magnesiumand they're like.
Why can't I still go to thebathroom?
Or why do I flip from like oneend to another?
And it actually has a lot moreto do with their boron and their
sodium than it does withmagnesium because those things
help with absorption.
And so most of the time we'reactually answering and, and
looking for the answer to thequestion of like, why are you
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not responding to this mineral?
And it has a lot to do with theother minerals.
Exactly.
Well, and, and that's the thingis if you have this, take this
if you have, right?
Like that's kind of the what'sout there.
Or even just, just take themultivitamin and it was, being
able to kind of see it play outand like I'm, I'm doing all of
these things that don't evenmatter because I'm, these other
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things are low or I'm notmanaging them.
So I think it was a really good.
For me to even see like thatwhole picture of my own health
and then, the, with the symptomsbeing like the end of it, right?
Mm-hmm.
Instead of like, that was myonly focus.
Like, I can't lose this weight,I can't, that kind of thing.
Well, and you had been told,okay, you did the BOD Pod, and
(10:13):
they're like, eat this superrestricted diet.
You did it.
Then it ended up backfiring andmaking things worse, which just
shows how much like it is, ofcourse about what you eat, but
it's so much more aboutmetabolism and hormones and how
your body is actuallyfunctioning.
And if you're super depletedlike you were, of course your
body's not gonna prioritizeweight loss if it's already
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depleted.
I have to make sure that I'msurviving and that is not a
priority right now.
So you go from being superfrustrated that you're being
diligent following the plan to aT, like every type A girly does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you're like, I'm noteven getting the benefit of
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this.
So I imagine that was superfrustrating.
It.
I would say that, you know, ifwe really even go into like the
mental health of all of that,like it, it really starts to
mess with you because you lose Idon't have hope to change
things.
Now you feel really out ofcontrol and when you feel really
right, like the.
Cascade event.
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It's not just, it's, it's notjust like this weight that I'm
carrying.
Becomes this I don't havecontrol over my own body.
I don't have control, the diet,if I were, I mean, it was like a
thousand calories a day.
Yeah.
Which is, it was like less thanyour toddler low.
Yes, exactly.
I even had to kind of push back,are you sure?
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This doesn't seem really healthyto me.
Like I'm active.
I have a kid I work out like,and it, so it just wasn't the
way, and I'm like, they're,these are supposed to be the
experts that are helping me and,and I am now out of control and
they can't help me.
Right.
Like it really just takes you tothese levels of like
hopelessness.
(11:58):
You lose motivation to want totry you, right?
Like the trickle down of.
Effect is kind of scary.
And I'm glad that I saw thatstory when I did because it got
me out of it, it gave me like I,it gave me that motivation back.
But I don't know what would'vehappened if, if I, if I hadn't
seen that, you know?
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Totally.
Yeah.
It's like then you just feelstuck and like you said, out of
control, like what is happeningto my body.
I think we might've been jokingabout this when I was on your
podcast, but how we're alltortured by like all the
perimenopause content online.
Yes.
And a, a lot of the messages outthere like, yeah, you're
perimenopausal, so that's whyyou feel this way.
(12:40):
But then there's not a lot ofhope of like, and the solution
is, you know?
Yes.
Yeah.
And especially for.
A lot of the clients that wesee, and I said this actually on
Lacey's episode as well, is theworst, and I say worst in quotes
because there's really not goodand bad when it comes to
minerals, but I guess a betterway to say it, the most depleted
tests that we see are moms whoare entrepreneurs, and it's like
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the same.
Personality traits that made yousuccessful as a female
entrepreneur are also the sametraits that are depleting your
body.
So it's like you're kryptonite alittle bit as well.
And you're, you're a go-getter.
You are an achiever and you'relike, I'm following the plan and
it's not working.
So yeah, it feels super outtacontrol.
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Yeah.
I like a plan.
I like to have, the, the way thesteps and.
And I was doing all of the onesthat, that, that my doctor was
giving me the, I saw anutritionist.
I was literally doing all of thestuff.
Okay, so you, so you had yourappointment, you got your
recommendations.
You felt like, okay, I at leastunderstand why I am having these
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symptoms.
And we gave you recommendationsfor.
Mineral support as well asnutrition, lifestyle, et cetera.
How did you feel about therecommendations?
Did you feel like they were easyto follow?
Did you feel like it waschallenging to make these
changes?
Be honest, like, walk us throughNo, I Your thought process, I
mean, again, I did this likeridiculous diet for like, it was
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two months, eight weeks.
And so honestly for me it felteasier than.
A lot of the other things that,that I had been asked to do.
The, the hardest part is that Iam sort of sensitive to taste
and the mineral supplements donot taste great.
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And so I, it took me a while Ithink to figure out.
How to, to get that down and howto want to get that down.
And that was probably thehardest part, to be honest.
What worked for you?
Because I know we have peoplelistening that already have
their minerals because they'reworking with us.
How did you make it tastebetter?
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How did you.
What was your concoction?
Because everybody has their ownthing.
Some people will just put theircustom blend into a little bit
of water and take it like ashot.
Some people will mix it into asmoothie.
Some people like sip on it allday with a lot of water.
Some people add other flavoring.
What was your strategy?
So the smoothie was the best forme'cause then I just couldn't
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taste it at all.
You do it like twice a day.
And so I didn't want to have twosmoothies a day, and so I would
they, it come some like stuffthat you can put in that makes
them taste better.
And then that I would also addlike water or just something
else that would even dilute iteven more.
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And I just shoot it.
I just had to, one gulp for me.
I could, if I had to.
Sip that thing all day.
It would never have been drunk.
That's the exact thing thatLacey said.
She said, I could have,something disgusting for two
seconds of my day to feelbetter.
It was worth it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
It's funny because it, it alsodepends on what we put in it,
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but some people are like, oh mygosh, it was terrible.
And other people are like, well,I started craving it after a
while.
I'm like, oh, that'sinteresting.
So yeah, I mean, it definitelywas something that I wanted to.
Take.
So again, there was that likemotivation there to, to want to
figure it out.
I had figured out like anafternoon or an evening smoothie
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that wouldn't, so it didn't haveas much like stuff in it to fill
me up, but that, would stillkind of cut the taste.
So I.
I, I figured it out in, in a waythat feels good, but yeah, I the
quicker, the better, so tospeak.
Totally.
Okay, so you started taking it.
What did the trajectory looklike?
I know you were noticing changeslike in energy and how you felt.
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Everyone's trajectory is alittle bit different.
Sometimes people notice changes,like right away.
Sometimes people, it takeslonger just depending on.
Of course their genetics andtheir lifestyle and their diet
and all the things.
But what did the progress looklike for you?
So one thing that I think wasreally helpful is I actually put
in, in my calendar, I like areminder to like check in with
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myself each month.
'cause I feel like the resultsare so.
Slow almost in the sense thatyou're not gonna notice it every
day.
But when I got to that month andI looked back and it was like,
oh, I have had more energy.
Lately I have, I, I've seenmyself being able to do this.
My I'm starting to be maybe alittle bit more regular than I
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was before.
I would say the most noticeablewithout having to like check in
with myself was definitely afterthe three months, I, that was
when I really started to belike, okay, I feel a difference.
I feel like I, I, I was startingto see some of this resisted
weight even, I felt like it, Ijust.
(17:52):
Not that it was like gone butthat it, I feel like it, things
were starting to move, whereasbefore they were not awesome.
I love that.
And I mean, honestly, that's,that's what you want.
You want that slow, steadychange that all of a sudden you
look back and you're like, ohyeah, I'm not crashing at 2:00
PM like I was or Oh yeah.
(18:12):
I.
I'm sleeping a lot deeper.
I wake up feeling more restedand it's like that steady change
where it's not necessarilyovernight.
You're not necessarily waking upone day and being like, I feel
like a completely differentperson.
But then if you look back acouple months, you're like, I
feel like a complete person.
I am person.
Yeah.
I feel, and I feel like,honestly, me being kind of the
(18:32):
marriage psychologist that I am,I.
Because this happens with likethe relationships that I work
with too, is like maybe even dayto day they don't notice a big
change yet, especially whenthings have been so bad and
you're starting to like make thechanges.
It's not like you all of asudden change the dynamic and
everything feels good, right?
(18:53):
And so I always say you have toset these kind of moments where
you look back and say, what'sdifferent than when we started,
okay this is getting better.
How do we build off that?
So I think it just sort of lendswell to me saying I know that
it's not gonna be this overnightaha.
Everything's great.
Like no issues.
But you know, I, made a point tocheck in with myself and then,
(19:17):
but like the actual, when Ididn't have to check in, like it
was then like, I don't.
I'm one of those weirdos that I,I don't drink coffee.
And so even then, like I, Ijust, I need it even less than
maybe I, because I had started,I had started to drink coffee.
Not'cause I necessarily wantedto, but man, I was just dragging
so much and I just like, again,that's, I, that's gone.
(19:39):
I just don't need it anymore.
So like those things becameobvious, but they weren't at
first.
Yeah.
Well, so back to marriage andbeing a marriage therapist.
So you had me on your podcastrecently and we talked about how
when you feel better, yourrelationships can be better.
And obviously that's wayoversimplified.
But from your perspective,obviously you had me on to talk
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about that for a reason.
So what do you see, I'm sure youwork with a lot of women that
are in our age range, in thisperimenopausal age range where
they probably had a couple kids.
It probably don't feel supergood And that affects how they
show up in their relationships.
Totally.
It probably affects how theyshow up and I know it shows up
and how they perform at work andeven like their fuse with
(20:23):
mothering, like their nervoussystem fuse where they're like,
every little thing kind of setsme off.
So I'd love to just hear fromyour perspective what and why
like health and mental healthreally have to be married
together.
Totally.
I think that if, even if I justspeak for myself first I think
that.
(20:44):
I, when I'm not super happy inmyself, I, I was looking for
kind of my, my spouse tovalidate to fill in that gap
that maybe used to be there.
And, he's not used to doingthat, nor could he really ever
actually do that.
Right?
Like, he can't make me be happywith myself.
(21:05):
But there was more kind ofpressure on him to do that and
when that wasn't happening,right?
Like it can just kind of createsome.
Some disconnection, but like ifyou think about intimacy and
wanting to like I just wasn'tcomfortable with myself and I
was tired and I was grumpy, andit certainly would show up in my
parenting and I might be moresnippy than I wanted to be, or
(21:26):
I'd lose patience quicker.
Or I, I find this a lot with thecouples that I work with, where
they're, like not wanting to getclose to their.
Spouse, they just don't feel,they don't feel good in their
body.
They don't feel good, and, and alot of people aren't giving them
any solutions for that.
And it's one thing to say like,love yourself.
(21:47):
Yes.
Like, I worked on that everysingle day.
But it does, it's, it's hard.
It's hard when you're feelinghopeless that like, this is just
it, this is, this is just it forme.
And I don't like it.
I'm not actually happy with it.
Well, and especially if there'ssomething physiologically going
on, like I'm all about lovingyourself and body positivity and
(22:08):
all of those things, and likedefinitely think that that's a
piece of the puzzle.
100%.
Totally.
But at the same time, if there'ssomething physiologically going.
Wrong, or there's somethingunder the surface where your
thyroid isn't right or yourhormones aren't right, and your
blood sugar's all over theplace.
And a lot of that starts withmineral imbalances and you can
(22:31):
fix that.
Totally.
Like there's something to besaid for doing both.
Yeah.
I just think that it, it's sorelated, like talking about like
how hopeless I was like that wasinfluencing my marriage, right?
Like, and just not being happy.
I just think.
That and it was influencing,like how I showed up at work.
It was influencing.
It's just like, it just theyplay off of each other so much
(22:52):
and even as I'm feeling morehopeful now, that's also
translated in all of these otherareas and I think that, we tend
to like really even just likethis, right?
If we were just to say the guthealth and your poops and your
bloating and but like, even thatinfluences so many other things
(23:12):
and I think we just don't alwayslook at that full picture and
it's really doing a disservicenot because I, it mine were so
like playing off of each other.
And then bad habits startbecause now I'm feeling bad
about this, which create, it'sjust like you can't have one
without the other.
Totally, totally.
(23:33):
So you did your HTMA aroundMarch.
I think your, your appointmentwas, I was gonna say, I think
I'm like due probably for afollow up.
So, that's what I wanna talkabout where you're at now, so
you did the appointment aroundMarch, mid-March, and you did
your minerals.
You noticed a big change aroundthe three month mark.
(23:54):
Obviously it's been longer thanthree months, we're now about.
It's October 30th when we'rerecording this yeah.
Almost November.
Where are you at now?
Like how are you feeling?
Do you feel like you, theresults have lasted even after
you stopped the mineral powder?
Do you feel like, you're addingin more minerals even into your
day-to-day food intake and allof that?
(24:17):
I think that that's sort of whatI.
I, I did my, you know, I did myfull mineral that you get it in
a big tub.
And then what I really focusedon is because they, what I got
was a whole list of recipes and,things to, when once I finished,
I've been really like, can Imaintain this on my own?
(24:39):
And that's really what I wannasee when I go into when I do my
follow up one, I wanna see was,'cause I know that I was better,
based on just what I wasexperiencing.
I still feel good right now.
But I would like to see is can Imaintain this with my own diet,
my own stuff, or do I need, justthe constant kind of
(25:01):
supplementation to maintainthat.
And so that's where I am rightnow, just in the journey of, of
all of this.
Totally, and I, I said thisslightly on another episode, but
I think it's kind of a both andsituation.
So the only way that our bodygets minerals is through food,
and there are certain times inour lives that are just more
(25:21):
depleting than others.
So, yeah.
Obviously being pregnant,postpartum nursing, lack of
sleep, a stressful time periodin your life can be another one.
You're depleting more mineralswhen you're stressed, and so
your mineral needs go up.
We also know that our food isnot as mineral rich as it once
was.
Which, but that also doesn'tmean that we can't get what we
(25:44):
need from food.
We just have to be reallyintentional with it, which is
why we give our clients so manydifferent lists and recipes and
ideas because it doesn'tactually have to be that
complicated.
It could look like, especiallypotassium.
That's a big mineral that somany people are low in, like
just adding in a potassium richfood to every single meal,
whether that's sweet potatoes oravocados, or coconut water,
(26:07):
bananas, whatever it might be.
And that would be the goal,right?
To be able to maintain and thenoccasionally reset if you need
to, or, supplement a little bitbased on, the patterns that your
body's showing.
Of course, genetics play a rolein that as well.
But I'm really excited to seehow things have maintained over
the last couple months too.
(26:28):
Yeah, me too.
I think that, again, I feelgood.
I'm also in a very differentlife.
I like that you said, like italso depends on, the, the
circumstance I.
When I did my appointment, I wascoming off of, and even when,
when we did the test, my husbandis in the military and he, we
were in a tour where he did intwo and a half years, he
(26:51):
deployed three times, so he wasgone every six months for those
two and a half years, and wewere in Japan.
It was all on me.
I had a one month old when heleft the first time, and so to
say that it was like probablythe most.
Stressful, chaotic time of mylife would be an understatement.
Whereas now we have moved and heis home.
(27:13):
It's two 30 as we're recordingthis and he is already home from
work'cause he's helping to takecare of our sick daughter who's
home and I I, right, like we're,I'm just in even a completely
different life space.
And so I think this is what'sgonna be interesting when I do
my next test is.
In like maybe an easier life canI maintain, but I would guess is
(27:35):
if I was still in thatstressful, I think I, I don't
think there's any way that justdiet alone would've.
Been enough.
So this is like the true can Imaintain when everything is good
and normal and if I can't, thenthat really shows me, right?
Like I just need the constant,you know, supplementation and
that's okay.
I am okay with that.
(27:57):
Well, and it doesn't always haveto be a custom blend, it could
be like figuring out exactlywhat multivitamin fits your
needs as close to optimal, orwhich, yeah, mineral mocktail is
gonna be the best thing for youto make.
You know, totally on aconsistent basis or some very,
just a handful of targetedsupplements for you that you
take for a certain amount oftime.
(28:19):
There's always options, andthat's, yeah, that's the beauty
of it, is you can do, and wehave some clients that come to
us and they're like notinterested in doing a custom
blend.
I only wanna take max threesupplements and I wanna do it
mostly through food.
And I'm like, you go, girl.
I know you can do.
It's just gonna take some.
Planning.
Yeah.
(28:39):
And strategy.
Yeah.
But it's not hard, once you getin a groove of it the custom
blend obviously just makesthings really convenient.
Totally.
And sometimes you do need abulldozer to come in and I, that
was definitely the case with youcoming off, man.
That just makes me feelstressed, thinking about having
a one month old and my husbanddeploying like, oh, oh my gosh.
I needed to get to likesurviving, you know, I needed to
(29:02):
get to, well, I maybe even likecloser to thriving than I was.
And I think like that's where Igot and, and I love the idea of
even being able to say thatthough, that maybe it doesn't
have to be a custom blendforever.
That it can be kind of thesedifferent options.
And that probably is what Iwould even talk about.
Can I get a pill that I don'thave to, can I get, which, I
(29:25):
mean, there's hundreds ofmultivitamins, right?
Yeah.
Sometimes it's just answeringthe question of which
multivitamin works best for me?
Like probably just Googling bestmultivitamin for women.
Age 40 is not your best optionbecause your needs are gonna be
different than somebody else whois, is the same age and
different lifestyle anddifferent genetics and all the
(29:47):
things.
But if we can see on paper like,okay.
Yeah, this one is more targetedto your needs, or this one
isn't.
It makes it pretty simple.
Totally.
We have a whole spreadsheet ofall the differences.
Oh, that's cool.
And you know, it's like veryeasy to pick.
So, yeah.
But I think like this is.
What is so great about what youdo is like, the data just
doesn't lie and there is ananswer and a solution.
(30:10):
Like I'm going and I'm lookingat all of these multivitamins on
my own right, and I have no ideaI'm just like guessing.
I'm guessing which one, like thebottle looks nice or what, which
one is, mid range so that it's,I.
I have no idea.
And I love being able to, evenwith that, right?
It's so much more intentional.
I'm taking this exactmultivitamin because it's
(30:31):
exactly what my body needs.
Like it's just, I don't know whythis isn't like everywhere.
Right?
It would be so nice.
It would, it honestly would savepeople a lot of time and a lot
of effort into just know.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
A lot of just really thatheartbreak that, that heartbreak
to say I remember I literally, Isaid to my doctor, what else can
(30:52):
we do?
And they were like nothing.
Like, I think it's just yourage.
You just, it's just fine likethat.
It is it's heartbreaking.
It's absolutely heartbreaking.
Okay.
So I'm gonna be like, I'm gonnalook like I'm five months
pregnant every single day.
And this is fine for you.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't buy in.
I'm glad I didn't buy it.
I was just about to say that.
(31:12):
I'm glad you didn't.
I'm glad that sometimesInstagram has some positives of
like finding solutions tothings.
Anything that we didn't coverthat you think would be helpful
for somebody listening who'scurious about mineral testing or
maybe skeptical or wants tomaybe try it out for themselves?
I think that in this day and agelike there's a lot of we are
(31:35):
going to just sell you asolution and.
I think that a lot of us areskeptical about that because
maybe even we've been burned orlike I just can't be sold on
anything anymore.
And I just feel like this is sonot that this is really taking
like.
What your body is doing andsaying we're not gonna just sell
(31:59):
you on our thing.
We're going to help you based onwhat you actually need.
And so I get why people, mightbe skeptical about stuff, but I
just can we put this, can we,and it like completely different
category of of stuff.
I love that.
Thank you for saying that.
Yeah, that means a lot becauseit is hard.
(32:21):
I mean, the internet is a wild,wild place right now.
Welcome.
I feel like people have losttrust in a lot of things because
there is so much like quick fixthis, quick fix that like this
is gonna solve every problemthat you have.
And yeah, I'm not saying thatminerals are gonna solve every
problem that you have, but theydo help.
(32:41):
You know, they do make adifference.
So only help to, I think for meit helped to then be able to do
the other stuff, right?
As things started to.
Shift.
I was more motivated to like,work out.
I was more motivated to continuewith the healthy eating that I
am doing now.
I have the energy to kind of runaround with my kids, which is
(33:04):
what I want.
So I, matters and.
To be told.
And I think that's the otherthing too, is it's really easy
to just lose hope when you'retold that there's nothing that
you can do.
And so I just think just becauseyou are not the expert in that
doesn't mean that you don't,you're not the expert in your
own body.
And if, if things don't feelright, like this could give you
(33:24):
the answers that you've actuallybeen looking for, you know?
Yeah, I love it.
Well, Lindsay, I know that youhave an online business as well
and maybe people wanna check youout.
So tell us where like they canlearn about you, find out about
you.
And thank you so much forjumping on today.
This has been great.
Yeah.
(33:45):
So I am on Instagram underMarried After Kids.
You can also find my websitewww.marriedafterkids.com.
And essentially I just helpparents who are struggling in
their marriage.
Like it, there's a lot ofsystemic stress that is placed
on a marriage after you havekids and no one teaches you how
to.
(34:05):
Navigate it.
And so that is what I do is Ihelp you navigate it.
I help you to put the righttools and things in place to be
able to not only function as ateam, to just be really happy
together.
So it makes parenting easier, itmakes life easier.
Just everything gets easier.
I love that.
We all need that so much.
(34:26):
Thanks, Lindsay.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much.
I hope you enjoyed thisconversation with Lindsay, and
maybe it got you thinking aboutyour own metabolism, your own
stress, and why your body mightbe resisting weight loss, or you
might just feel puffy orinflamed when your labs are
coming back normal.
(34:48):
One of the things that reallystuck out to me with this
episode was that.
For Lindsay, it wasn't reallythe weight, it was just feeling
totally out of control and beingreally given only super extreme
options that were notsustainable.
If you heard her story andthought, that is me, this is
your reminder that you are notcrazy, you are not broken, and
(35:09):
there are answers.
We have our Black Friday sale onHCMA, coming up on actual Black
Friday, November 28th.
This is our biggest sale of theentire year.
It is the perfect chance to getyour own mineral test,
understand your own patterns,and finally see why your body
feels the way that it does.
You can join the wait listthrough the link in the show
(35:30):
notes wait.
Listers will get first accesswhen the sale goes live, and
once those spots are gone.
They are gone.
So if you've been wonderingwhether minerals could be the
missing piece in your energymetabolism or even gut issues,
make sure you get on the waitlist.
And thanks for tuning in.
I am so excited for next week aswe continue the Mineral series.
(35:51):
So make sure to listen in.
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