Operation Gladio: The CIA, Mossad & City of London’s Plan for a New World Order

In this explosive interview, Retired USAF Colonel Towner-Watkins exposes how the CIA, Mossad, and the City of London built a shadow network of mercenaries, false-flag operations, and psychological warfare to enslave nations and pave the way for a one-world government. From post-WWII stay-behind armies to modern color revolutions and media manipulation, this is the hidden playbook behind the “New World Order” — and it’s still running today.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Holehouse. Something that
continually interests me is theongoing deep diving into
understanding who reallycontrols this world. To think
that, yeah, maybe, you know,early on in your journey, you

(00:36):
think of this idea that, oh,it's a bunch of different
countries all made up ofdifferent leaders, and they're
all battling out for control,kinda like the different states
in America. There's differentstates and governors.
And but as you startresearching, you start
discovering that there is thereare multiple layers and layers
of control over top of thesecountries. There are the
corporations, there's thebanking, there's the the

(00:58):
military, there's differentkinds of entities and shadowy
figures and organizations andsecret societies that are
manipulating and controlling theworld in ways that we it makes
it very difficult for us tounderstand. But whenever I find
someone who's done deep divesinto this kind of research, I'm

(01:18):
always so fascinating. So I'm sofascinated by it. So my guest
today is a lovely woman.
Her name is, colonel TownerWilkins. She is a former, air
force US air force colonel,retired, who is absolutely
brilliant, extremely wellresearched. But what we're gonna
be talking about todayspecifically is something called

(01:39):
Operation Gladio and why in hercourse of research discovering
Operation Gladio was one of themost important discoveries that
she made in understanding howthese control mechanisms are put
into place around the world. Andwhen you look at Gladio, it kind
of opens up Pandora's box andunderstanding, oh my goodness,
this is the playbook foroverthrowing countries, for

(02:00):
bringing corporate control, andso much more. In today's show,
we're gonna be diving intolooking deep into the the
origins and and the the pyramidsof control coming out of the
city of London and, throughvarious countries and the
banking industry and and thedrug trade and the CIA and so
much more.
So it's gonna be a very fun anddeep episodes. I hope you enjoy
it. Before we get started, justwanna remind people that every

(02:22):
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interview with the Colonel.Colonel Towner Watkins, it's an
honor to have you on the show.Thank you so much for visiting
us today.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
So you're a retired colonel, US Air Force, if I'm
not mistaken. I'll be, I'll letyou give a little bit of your
own background. I look at yourwall of pins and diplomas,
everything there. I'll let yougive your own introduction,
which will do better than me.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So I have thirty years in the Air Force and I
enlisted as an Airman basic andworked my way up to colonel,
thanks to the taxpayersinvestment in me. I spent most
of my adult life in some type ofan educational program. I have

(04:21):
six different degrees and noneof them are related to, well,
one may be semi related to whatmy last three years worth of
research has been in. I do a lotof reading. I have been an avid
reader my whole life, and I'veonly ever read non fiction.

(04:42):
And so the extent of knowledgethat I have about history is
fairly deep. And it's very rarethat I come across a book that
has information in it that oflike knocks me out. That was up

(05:05):
until three years ago. I've readover 120 books now just on
Operation Gladio once I foundit. And every single book that I
read knocks me for a loop.
And it is so critical thatpeople understand what it is

(05:28):
because you are seeing it playout in real world like in
Venezuela and what was happeningin Bangladesh because it
involves a group of people thatwe, for the most part, don't
even know their names. I referto them as the international

(05:48):
syndicate that workscollectively to monopolize
resources. And by resources, I'mtalking about people, I'm
talking about minerals, I'mtalking about oil, I'm talking
about every form of resourcesthat are on Earth. They want to

(06:09):
control it. And that's kind ofwhere I would like to start
because if people understandthis life cycle, they'll
understand so much of whatthey're seeing play out today.
And this international syndicategoes back. Some people can track

(06:30):
it back two hundred years. Ibasically tracked it back to the
end of the late 1800s in a groupcalled the Fabian Society. And
the Fabian Society was full ofanarchists, eugenicists, and all
kinds of people, primarily inthe city of London. And names

(06:53):
that you recognize come out ofthis Cecil Rhodes, Balfour, the
Rothschilds, all of that.
And they spread across TheAtlantic into The United States
in the form of the Council onForeign Relations and that type
of thing. And they were veryvocal about what they wanted.

(07:13):
They wanted one worldgovernment, and they said it.
One world government. We wereall shocked when people
discovered that George Bush Sr.
Said it in an address during hispresidency. It goes so much
farther back than that. And thisgroup of people basically had
set up a concept that thesecorporations, that they're on

(07:38):
the boards of the transnationalcorporations and that they
control, at the time in theearly 1900s, they paid for their
own intelligence and their ownmercenaries to go into countries
like Iran and take over the oilinto Africa and colonize them.

(07:59):
We are all familiar with theBritish Empire, the Spanish
Empire, the Dutch Empire, butthey all had cost of doing
business because they had to payfor their own mercenaries and
they had to pay for their ownintelligence. Well, that all
changed after World War II, andoh, by the way, the Fabian
society said they'd have theirone world government with three

(08:20):
wars.
So after World War II, we, forthe first time worldwide, had
standing militaries and centralintelligence agencies all across
the world. Every country set upa central intelligence
counterpart. Well, that wasgreat for the transnational

(08:42):
corporations that are runningthis whole thing because they
don't have to pay for them now.That increased their profits
tremendously. So now that costwas offloaded to all of the
taxpayers around the world.
We're paying for theirintelligence and their military.
And by the way, I can draw adirect correlation toward to all

(09:06):
of the military engagements postWorld War two to the resources
and the companies that wereresponsible for whatever false
flag that got us into the wars.Okay?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay. Let me jump in real quick because I wanna it's
okay. I'll do it periodicallybecause I wanna make sure I'm
following you. So first off, youseem, you know, similar to me
the way much more wellresearched and that you just
keep digging and digging anddigging. And I imagine you're
not researching birds, you'reresearching the global control
structure, you're peeling backthe veil of who's really running

(09:39):
this world.
And so that you're saying acouple of years ago, when you
discovered Operation Gladio, wasalmost like you found their
hidden playbook. Found the toolsand the strategies that would be
used. And so you talk about howin the late 1800s, the
international is it called theinternational syndicate? Is that

(09:59):
what

Speaker 2 (10:00):
you International.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You have this international syndicate and how
they built this corporatocracy,this layer of these, you know,
multinational corporations thatat that time had their own
hitmen and and militaries thatthey would then use these
corporations to go in, overthrowgovernment, seize resource,
etcetera. But then post WorldWar two, act in the advent of

(10:25):
the intelligence agencies,Mossad, CIA, etcetera.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
ACIA in Korea, the BND in Germany. Yeah. Every one
of them.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
That they were then able to then have these
corporations use thesemilitaries and private
contractors and,

Speaker 2 (10:42):
you know, hit We're not even to the private
contractors.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh, okay. Okay. So kind of, I mean, part of this
reminds me of what I read andwhat I, when I interviewed John
Perkins, Economic Hitman,talking about how Exxon had
their own private military inEcuador. And it's like, okay,
that doesn't make sense, but itdoes. And so to make sure that
I'm following, and I'll let youcontinue because this is like

(11:06):
right up my alley in terms ofwhat I'm interested in.
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So they've offloaded their expense account onto the
taxpayers post World War two.

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Speaker 2 (12:39):
Who would who did they hire to go into the CIA?
They're not you and I. They'reWall Street bankers. They're
Wall Street lawyers. They'recollege professors.
These are the people that arelike the Praetorian guard for
the transnational organizations.They're their foot soldiers. So

(13:00):
they all have allegiance tothese same transnational
organizations, and they are whomakes up the CIA. So it's very,
very interesting. And of course,your senior military officers,
they all go work for themilitary industrial companies.

(13:24):
Process that goes on in themilitary by sending our senior
officers to the Harvardprofessional management and all
of those types of places. Andthey're groomed to be the people
companies. That then transitioninto these multinational
companies in order to perpetuatethis cycle. Okay, so we've got

(13:45):
that step. So now we have all ofthese on the taxpayer dimes.
What happened after nineeleven?What happened well, actually it
started after Desert Storm. Wehad but it, like, peaked back to
your point about the privatemilitary. After nine eleven,

(14:06):
there's this explosion ofprivate intelligence and private
military companies, right?Because now we're operating in
two theaters.
Oh my god, we're overwhelmed. Wewere never overwhelmed. That was
never too big. Number one, weshouldn't have been there, but
it was never too big. Our entiremilitary footprint was two

(14:28):
theater wars.
That was in the same theater.That was not passed, but they
used that as an excuse to startprivatizing and outsourcing from
both the CIA. So now the CIA hasa ton of contractors and the
military has a ton ofcontractors. Well, if you follow

(14:49):
the footprints of those militarycontractors, whether it's
Blackwater, NOW Academy, and youstart doing a wiring diagram,
who all owns them? TheInternational Syndicate.
They now own all of the major.So think about this. Not only
did we pay for theirintelligence and military by

(15:13):
creating a standing militaryafter World War II and the CIA,
the CIA has never worked for theAmerican people. They have
always worked for this group.But now, through our taxpayer
dollars being funneled throughthe DOD, now Secretary of Bohr,
and the CIA, And these companieswho now has a direct line back

(15:37):
to the international syndicate,they're profiting off of our
taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Basically They are making a fortune. So what I
think you're kind of lifting thelid off of the military
industrial complex. Right? Andso and intelligence. So if you
look at companies like Battelleor Boeing or Lockheed Martin or
Palantir, you have all of these,which a lot of these companies

(16:04):
have very kind of ominousorigins, like, you know,
Palantir, for instance,

Speaker 2 (16:10):
shows on Patel. I'm very familiar with them.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh, see. I my I had I had family that worked for
actually still works for Patelbecause I grew up in Ohio, and
there are multiple Battellefacilities in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yes, there are.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yep. And so basically, have these, this
small group of the, the cabal,the international syndicate, the
small group of these powerplayers, wealthy families,
bankers, etcetera. They havethese layers of multinational
corporations with immensecontrol that are, you know, not
even they they exceed the powerof even countries and nation

(16:42):
states because they're theseglobal entities. But then how
they have tapped into createthese basically private
military, private intelligence,private so you have all these,
you know, Navy SEALs and, youknow, these these kind of heavy
hitting mercenaries that then gointo private contracting. And
they might be, you might have,you might trace it up into the

(17:03):
line and figure out that it'sactually Exxon that somehow is
funding the overthrow of acountry to seize the oil
reserves of some Africancountry.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yes. And one of the most and I know the economic
hitman covered this, but Chileis probably one of the best
examples of that, where you hadPepsiCo, ITT, and at the time
Anaconda Mining, which wasinterested because at the time
Chile was the number one coppermining country in the world. And

(17:33):
they literally went to PresidentNixon and said, we'll pay you to
get rid of Salvador Allende. Andwho did they send? They sent the
CIA.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
The Jackals.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah. So let's go back. So now that you have the
straw man, you have the actualconcept because that's
critically important. So afterWorld War II well, not even
after. During World War II,there is a critical meeting that
most people don't even knowhappened at the end of the war.

(18:05):
It happened in Northern Italy,and it involved Alan Dulles and
a major general by the name ofLyman Leminsker. He was the
chief logistician for GeneralEisenhower, who was the
commander in Europe. Okay. Nowwhy would a logistician go to a
pre end of war meeting with thespymaster of the OSS? Well,

(18:31):
there's a guy by the name ofGeneral Wolfe.
Wolfe had created a programcalled Werewolf Units, and
Werewolf Units had another namecalled Stay Behind Units, and
General Wolfe had Reinhard Galenwho worked for him on the
Eastern Front. Reinhard Galen'snumber one trainer of stay

(18:54):
behind units, werewolf units,was Otto Skorzeny, and they went
behind as the Eastern Frontplunged into Russia during World
War II, and they were plantingstay behind units, and their
thought was that they would burycaches of weapons and train

(19:15):
normal day citizens to bemercenaries, assassins,
whatever, and they had explosiveguns, money, and communication
equipment in all these caches.And if the Russians pushed back,
which they did, then the ideawas these stay behind units
would pop up behind the frontand sabotage them from the rear.

(19:35):
That's why they were called staybehind units. They were in
Ukraine, Hungary, Yugoslavia,everywhere on what became
eventually Eastern Europe.
And they had them in France,they had them in Austria, they
were everywhere that was underGerman control. So General

(19:57):
Wolff's deal with Alan Dulleswas, we will turn over the map
and the people involved in ourprogram for the freedom, the rat
lining out, of certain highlevel people that control this
network, and will work for you.We Nazis will work for Allen

(20:21):
Dulles in the future, and wewill spread this tentacle all
over the world. We'll put themin Iran. We'll put them in
Korea.
We'll put them in South America.And they did. They put them in
Egypt. And I've been able totrace these networks all over.
Now think about this.

(20:42):
These are people that arebasically trained mercenaries
that you can pick up the phoneworldwide and have them do
anything you want. So thatmeeting happens. Lyman Lemusker
then goes back to Germany andDwight D. Eisenhower, who goes
on to be president that usesthis network, and says, here's

(21:04):
what we're going to do. I'mgoing to set up and supply, get
rid of the German munitions, andwe're going to take the excess
of World War II munitions, andwe're going to resupply all of
these stay behind networks, andwe're going to set them up in
all of NATO.

(21:25):
And so NATO sets up and theyhave a secret agreement that
Daniel Ganzer talks about in hisbook, NATO Secret Armies, that
every NATO country has to signsaying you're going set up
gladiator units. Every NATOcountry. So every country that

(21:46):
signed on to NATO set up theirversion. Now they're called
different things, like inTurkey, they're called gray
wolves. In Portugal, they werecalled a ginger press.
So they have different names. InFrance, they were the OAS. So
they have different names. ButOperation Italy's program was
called Gladio, and the reasonyou now generically call this

(22:10):
entire infrastructure Gladio isbecause Italy first exposed it.
They were the first country in1990 to go, Yeah, we kind of
have Gladio and we kind of havebeen.
So the whole auspices that theydecided collectively they were
going to use to sell this to thevery few people they told about

(22:33):
it is we have to have thembecause of communism. Is
literally the day after WorldWar II stops. Fifty million dead
in the Soviet Union. They're notcoming over the Folgate Gap.
They can't even get their shittogether.
So they're not a threat.Literally the day after, we've

(22:54):
got this entire stay behind unitprogram adopted throughout
Europe due to the communistthreat that basically doesn't
exist. And another point thatI'd have to make at this point
is when there was the termcommunist used, you have to be
very careful. I'm not sayingcommunism doesn't exist, but

(23:18):
there has been a propagandacampaign that our government
participated in that labeledanything they didn't like a
communist. You see it happeningright now.
Now we're using Nazis, butthat's kind of two wings of the
same bird. Oh, you're a Nazi.Oh, you're a communist. And they

(23:39):
do that psychologically tocontrol people. Well, I don't
want to do this because you'llcall me a Nazi, and I don't want
to do this because you'll callme a communist, and it's
control.
It's called the strategy oftension. If you create a far
right and a far left, you canpush everybody into
psychologically doing what youwant them to do. Otherwise,
you're going to call them names.So after Italy was freed from

(24:09):
Mussolini, there was a lot ofvery poor Italians that wanted
to labor wise organize. Well,weirdly enough, there was a lot
of American companies in Italyduring Mussolini.
Most people don't know that. Alot. Because it was really

(24:29):
totalitarianism or fascism wherethe corporations basically
control everything. It's themini version of what I just
described. The corporations areall there, and they get a stick
figure called Mussolini to runall of the terrorism and lock
people up and terrorize themwith their special police, and

(24:50):
then the workers are all justexploited.
So that's what Italy had beenthrough. So as soon as the
workers began forming unionsagainst these transnational
presence in Italy, they werelabeled communist. And whether
that's the appropriate term fora laborist who basically wants a

(25:13):
fair wage, you can debate allday long. But they were not
communist as what you and I havebeen brainwashed to believe.
They did not want the governmentto own anything.
They wanted a fair wage. So theywere labeled a communist by the
CIA immediately, and then theCIA spent $35,000,000 in 1948 to

(25:36):
elect the president that wasfavored joining NATO as opposed
to the one that was runningagainst them that did not want
to be in NATO, they didn't wantto be in anything, they had just
got rid of Mussolini, they justwanted to be free. That was not
acceptable because we have tohave everybody in NATO. And you
see that playing out right now.We're in Georgia.

(25:56):
We're in Slovakia. We criticizeHungary all the time because he
opposes the approved talkingpoints of NATO. So literally
everything I'm telling you rightabout this happened eighty years
ago is still happening today,which is why you have to
understand it, because it makeseverything going on today make

(26:17):
so much more sense. Okay, sothat's the very first election
interference the CIAparticipated in in 1948,
literally right out of the gate.So now we have these stay behind
units and everybody signed up tobe part of it.
And so I had been researchingthis for about a year and I was

(26:40):
sitting reading a book and Ijust like threw myself back in
the chair and I'm like, holycrap, we're in NATO. Where's our
stay behinds? Who's our staybehinds? We had to sign the same
document. So then I went off onthis rabbit hole that I'm still
in, that I looked at every solet me just make this point too.

(27:04):
So while we use communism as themechanism to justify setting
these things up, never once ineighty years were they ever used
to combat communism, not once.They were 100% used to create
domestic terrorist events tocontrol the people within the

(27:26):
country. 100% of the time, theycreated terrorism domestically
to effect change in their ownpeople. So in Italy, you had the
Bologna bombing, you had thetrain station bombing, you had a
bank bombing, you had copsassassinated on the street. All

(27:51):
eventually, initially, they wereall called, the Red Brigade did
it, It's communist.
They're going to destroy ourcountry. Not a single instance
was it a communist that did anyof those domestic terror events.
Every single one of them wasdone by Gladio. And the if you
recall, when John Paul II, hisattempted assassination in, the

(28:16):
Vatican, do you remember thatevent?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Mm-mm. No.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Where he was shot? John Paul II when the Pope was
shot? That was a gladio operatorfrom Turkey. He was a member of
their Gray Wolf unit. So theytravel.
They travel amongst themselves.Two French OAS agents was in
Dallas when JFK wasassassinated. What their role

(28:41):
is, I don't know, but it hasbeen verified two of them were
there.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So, basically okay. So you have these stay behind
units, which is really, youknow, it's somewhat of like a
fifth column, right? It's this

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Think Think Antipa.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Exactly. And so you have these, these units that I'm
sure these units haveinfiltrated the far left and the
far right because it's it'sagain, it's pincher movement,
right, hidden from both sides,you know, strategy of tension.
Right? And so what they've doneis that they have used these
units to create, you know, youknow, to have, you know, false

(29:20):
flags, etcetera, to you know, aGalen die dialectic, you know,
problem reaction solution. Youknow?
Oh, the towers are down. Youknow? Blame blame the, the buzz
the Muslims and bring in thePatriot Act, right, to protect
us from the Muslims. Right?Exactly.
And so you've seen the samepattern play out all over the
world, which, okay, especiallylooking at NATO countries to

(29:43):
kind of bring us together withthe seat of a lot of this power
coming out of the city ofLondon, you know, through the,
you know, through the bankingfamilies, Oh,

Speaker 2 (29:50):
leave the London.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah. Yes. And so then what you're seeing and how
you're tying it to now lookingat America now, even as recently
as a Charlie Kirk assassination,right? Which to me is that
there's no way I believe that itwas just some lone gunman. It's
like, oh, it was a JFK two pointzero.
All a sudden everyone's like, itwas a lone gunman. It's like,

(30:13):
okay. Same as the butler.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Never been a lone gunman.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Exactly. Same with butler. It's like, oh, just a
random kid that you know? Okay.There's no way I believe that.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Never And

Speaker 1 (30:21):
so a lone gunman. So you're seeing these same
patterns of playing out inAmerica and creating this. And
while a lot of people will thenit's funny because what I've
found in researching this isthat there's so many layers to
this. And and and some peoplemight they might scrape past the
first layer of deception andsay, oh, it wasn't the lone
gunman. It was the CIA.

(30:42):
It was Mossad. Right? But eventhat, though, is still just
another another mask that'shiding, and it's hiding and
hiding. And so they have theselayers, but they're using the
intelligence agencies. But asyou mentioned, it's not the
intelligence agencies that wethink of that are controlled by
the US government.
These are rogue agencies thatare being run by I

Speaker 2 (31:01):
wouldn't go that far. There is a direct line from the
US government to the CIA. I'mjust telling you they ignore it.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yes. Oh, I see. Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So it's a proven fact that in the past, both in Chile,
Guatemala is a great example.When we overthrew the government
in 1954, the year after weoverthrew Iran in 1953, in
Guatemala, you had CIA agents onthe ground, and there's

(31:35):
declassified cables saying,there's no communists here. No.
No. There's no communist here.
Yet all of the officialintelligence assessments
produced in Washington allcalled him communist. He has
communist affiliations. It's thehallmark stealing John Brennan's

(31:56):
line, it's the hallmark ofRussian disinformation. It's the
hallmark of communism. Andthat's all that got print
printed in the press herebecause they're all controlled
by him as well, that there werecommunists running literally
everywhere in Guatemala, so wehave to, you know, Monroe
Doctrine, we have to gooverthrow the government.

(32:17):
And it wasn't any of that. Thatall boiled down to United Fruit
owning basically all of theiraritable land under corrupt land
deals by buying off the eliteclass in Guatemala. Think it was
Arbenz gets elected, and hegoes, Yeah, we're not going to
do that anymore. We're going togive you the taxable value of

(32:39):
that land, which you have paidtaxes for the last twenty years
on a million dollars. Here'syour million dollars in a deal,
it wasn't paid all in one chunk.
But he said, here's your milliondollars. And United Fruit
immediately goes, No, no, it'sworth $20,000,000 And then
Arbenz goes, Well, you owe me ashit ton of money then because
you've only been paying taxes ona million dollars. And so United

(33:02):
Fruit just calls up Alan Dulles,who used to be their attorney,
and says, Hey, take them out.And we took them out. And so
that's literally how thesethings work.
So United Fruit got to stay downthere, it become Chiquita
Banana, and they were just suedin Miami within the last couple
of years and had to pay out tensof millions of dollars for the

(33:25):
amount of people they wereresponsible for killing because
of these types of activities.And United Fruit was in Cuba,
United Fruit was in Nicaragua,they were all over Latin America
doing this kind of stuff. And soit it brings you to the the real

(33:51):
world stuff of the coup thatjust happened in Bangladesh. If
you look at that coup, 100%USAID, which is now a CIA front,
was, it's now gone, but youstill have the National
Endowment for Democracy and itdoes exactly the same thing.
It's probably worth talkingabout that for just a second
because in the 1970s, the CIA,all of those hearings about the

(34:15):
CIA, they got outed as doing allof these coups.
So what they decided to do wasset up all of these other
organizations like USAID, whichtechnically had already existed.

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And so the National Endowment for Democracy was set
up in the early nineteeneighties by Ronald Reagan right
about the time we're gonna doIran Contra, weirdly enough.
And, they started funding it hasfour pots of money, basically,
and it's very important whatpots they are. They have a

(35:55):
Democrat pot, they have aRepublican pot, they have a
Union pot, and they have aChamber of Commerce pot, and
they do collectively regimechange. So there's three

elements to control, to power: economic, political, and (36:11):
undefined
military. We already got themilitary.
So the union and the chamber,those two things that are
supposed to hate each other,they work collectively together
with political warfare. So thenational endowment for

(36:33):
democracy, the Democrats andRepublicans, two wings of the
same bird, basically split. Hey.We'll do this country. You do
that country.
You do this country. We'll dothat country. And they work with
these two other pots toinfiltrate the unions on behalf
of the transnationalorganizations, and the chamber
represents the transnationalorganizations, and they

(36:54):
collectively just swoop in andoverthrow a government using the
CIA and USAID. And there'sprobably no better example
modern day than Venezuela. Ifyou go back and you look at
Venezuela, as soon as theynationalized their oil company
and kicked the transnationalsout, I don't know if your

(37:16):
audience knows, but theRockefellers basically owned
almost the entire fooddistribution network.
Nelson Rockefeller was downthere and owned a whole bunch of
grocery stores. They were justinfiltrated. And in each of
these cases, they develop acorrupt elite. Same thing
happened in Cuba. You developthis in order for this type of

(37:40):
corruption and control to go on,you have to have an elite group
of people in the country thatyou can control, just like here.
So when the country getsoverthrown, who do you think
comes here as ex pats? Thiscorrupt people that had been in

(38:01):
bed with the transnationals. Sonow think Miami, where you have
all of these Venezuelans and allof these Cubans all come and set
up shop in Miami. And they'renot great people, I'm sorry to
tell you. Are there a lot ofgreat people that are Cuban and
Venezuela?
Absolutely. But embedded in thatis all of these corrupt elite

(38:23):
people because they've got toflee the country because they
did some really nasty things.The same thing happened in
Nicaragua when we got rid of theCIA installed Somoza government.
The same thing happened in Chilewhen we got rid of Pinochet, or
when we installed Pinochet. Soyou have all of these, and these

(38:43):
refugees all come to America andthey're controlled on where they
set up camp like Somalia inMinnesota so that they are able
to control the local networks.
And that's how all of this stuffaffects us today. Everybody

(39:04):
likes to say, all of ourpolitical class likes to say,
oh, Venezuela, Maduro is notlegitimate. Their elections are
corrupt. They use the samemachines we do. Oh, and by the
way, the three guys that setthat up was part of this elite
class that moved to, The UnitedStates in Miami.

(39:26):
The machines were actuallycreated in a Florida business in
Miami. So tell me again howthey're corrupt. They elected
our president. So what do yousay in here? And nobody can
explain that.
Oh, it's corrupt when it's usedover there. Well, then it would
be corrupt when it's used hereif it's corruptible. Literally,

(39:49):
you start understanding thedepth of depravity of what they
have set up, it allows you tosee things so much crystal clear
of what's going on, and you cancall them out in real time. I
call it wearing your gladiographglasses because once you
understand the depths ofdepravity of these people, you

(40:12):
can put nothing past them. Solet's jump back in time to
having all of those things setup, and they're operating.
There's terrorist attacksdomestically all over Europe for
controlling those people. Well,again, I had that devastating
moment when I was like, What thehell? Where's ours? So if you go

(40:32):
back and you made the brilliantpoint of them being on the left
and right, so on the left, youmight recall the weather
underground and all the domesticterrorists. And then on the
right, you may recall the Cubanexiles.
Those were all, and all of them,especially the Cuban exiles, I

(40:56):
mean, there's so muchdocumentation on them being
directly changed or trained bythe CIA. And then they were
forward deployed wherever theywanted them. We had Cuban exiles
fighting mercenary wars inAngola under Reagan. We had them
in Nicaragua under Reagan. Wehad them in El Salvador setting

(41:16):
up death squads, killing people,which gave the birth to
MS-thirteen.
And we had them in Colombia, andwhat did that buy us? Oh, the
crystal triangle of Peru,Bolivia, and Colombia. So let's
take that for just a second. Ifyou go back, this is a big

(41:37):
undertaking post World War II.How did they fund all of this?
Yeah, we got some weapons assurplus after World War II. The
Marshall Fund had a covertfunding element, and it and the
Rockefeller Foundation were theinitial fundings for NATO's

(41:57):
secret army. They used part ofthe Marshall Plan Fund to set it
up there. But as I told you, itwas literally set up everywhere.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
So So real quick, the Marshall Fund, wasn't that post
World War II? It was a kind of ainvestment strategy to rebuild
the world after the war. You'reprimarily okay.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So shifting theaters over to Asia. We have OSS
detachments there. We're inChina, we're in Vietnam, we're
in Korea. And Paul Helliwell wasa colonel, and he was in the OSS
in China. While at the same timeChina was fighting to get rid of

(42:38):
the Japanese out of China, theywere fighting a civil war with
Mao, And we obviously know theylost that war.
When one of the warlords in theSoutheast Southwest area by the
name of Chiang Kai shek

Speaker 1 (42:55):
For the Taiwan, right?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Let's get to that. Chiang Kai shek, one of his, he
had Tidwell over there, but alsoPaul Helliwell. Paul Helliwell
is like looking around going,dude, you're funding this war
with selling opium. What a greatidea. You can buy a crap ton of
weapons with cash money on theblack market.

(43:20):
Hey, Allen Dulles, you know thatstay behind thing that you want
to set up? How about if we fundit all covertly with drugs?
Allendales goes, That's a greatidea. So why don't you figure
out how all that works overthere? So lots of illuminaries
go over there.
One of them that I came acrossthat I'm just totally fascinated

(43:42):
with is a name you've neverheard. Have you ever heard of
William Polly? No, no one has.He's like this big villain
behind the scene that no one hasever heard of. William Polly was
presented as a multi multimillionaire.
He had the Curtiss Aircraftfranchise for Asia. He's one of

(44:05):
the original funders of theflying tires. He's the original
guy behind Air America. He's theguy that actually put up the
money for sea supply, the shipsthat eventually Chiang Kai shek
gets to float all of his opiumaround. He's a linchpin figure
in that, and you will also findhim as a sugar plantation owner

(44:28):
in Cuba.
You know where we send all thedrugs from Asia to be processed
to come into The United States?Oh, he's there too. He owns the
bus line. He owns the airline.He owns the shirt, everything
there.
And he's this guy that justmysteriously keeps popping up
everywhere. I'm like, okay, sowe're over in Asia. We're taking

(44:49):
care of Chiang Kai shek becausewe don't want to lose him. He's
our opium guy. And he obviouslyloses to Mao and he gets kicked
out of China.
So we put him up in Burma. Well,the Burmese government allows
him to operate there for alittle bit of time, but there's
all kinds of chaos because he'sa drug lord. Set up shop, Paul

(45:10):
Helliwell sets up shop inThailand. And so we're going to
use Thailand because we spent$35,000,000 paying off the
national police and the seaportsthere and the airports so that
nobody checks anything coming inand out of Thailand that has an
American stamp on it. So that'sgoing to be our processor.
So when the Burmese governmentgot tired of Chiang Kai shek,

(45:33):
the CIA is looking around going,okay, where can we put them? Oh,
there's this little island overhere called Formosa, and we're
going to go over there and we'regoing to set up shop there. So
they did, and they just flippedthe shingle and said, Okay, it's
not Formosa anymore, it'sTaiwan. And, oh, by the way, I
didn't know this, and again, I'mjust embarrassed that I didn't

(45:55):
because I have a master's degreein strategic studies that
supposedly studied the entireworld. But Taiwan is not just
Taiwan.
Taiwan is like seven otherislands, and they put the KMT
army of Chiang Kai shek on everyone of those islands off the
coast of China, and they spentthe next forty years attacking
China with our money, and theCIA behind it, constantly

(46:23):
attacking China. And so as soonas Chiang Kai shek gets set up
there and all of their Formosansare going, Yeah, no, we're not
okay with this. Number one, he'sa Chinese general on a Chinese
island, and somehow that's notChina. And the Formosans are
going, Yeah, we didn't electhim. We don't want him.

(46:45):
We thought you were all aboutdemocracy. And they're like,
Yeah, well, shut up. And so theKMT army killed tens of
thousands of Formosans who roseup against the installation of a
dictator, because the very firstthing Chiang Kai shek does in
Taiwan is implement martial law.And I was not aware that the

(47:07):
whole time our media is tellingus Taiwan's this wonderful
democracy back in the '60s and'70s, it was living under
martial law. They didn't undothe martial law until in the
'80s sometime.
So from post World War II untilthe '80s oh, and by the way,

(47:30):
after they did that, and so nowwe don't have a controlled
dictatorship and no way ofmaking it a critical element in
our infrastructure. Wemysteriously decided that's the
best place out of the entireworld to put microchips. So if

(47:50):
you're Intel and you want tolook for cheap labor, are you
going to do it five seconds awayfrom communist China? Not if
you're a smart person, butthat's not what that decision
was made for. That decision wasmade for so that we can keep
Taiwan under our control and bea pain in the butt to China
forever.

(48:11):
It's an ongoing strategy oftension. And so now we've got
the opium set up, and we'retrafficking opium out of Laos,
Vietnam, because we put theFrench back in there, we didn't
give them their freedom either.And we were never about freedom
in any of these situations. It'snever about democracy. So we

(48:33):
make Vietnam basically a Frenchcolony again after the whole big
freedom movement, and France istaking their opium and sending
it to the Corsican Mafia inMarseille to refine it.
The American Mafia, SanTrafficano and all of them, land

(48:58):
ski the entire Mafia, makeseveral trips over to the
Vietnam area, Thailand, andTaiwan, so their shipments are
going to Sicily. Now, Sicily'smafia, their labs are not number

(49:19):
four grade heroin level. They'rekind of like the next layer
down. So in the 1970s, Nixon'swar on drugs was basically the
war on killing three fiftyCorsican Mafia guys and moving
their opium supply, caroinsupply, down to Sicily. So it

(49:40):
was control of drugs, notelimination of drugs.
So now all of it, and theyfigured out they got the
refinement situated, so all ofthe Sicilian heroin is coming
into Cuba in the 50s, right,with the Batista because we
overthrew that government tooand installed our puppet there.

(50:02):
So Batista's got the mafia downthere. They own everything. I
just explained that with WilliamPolly as just one example, but
there's a whole bunch of WilliamPollys down there. I had when I
got to this part in the story ofthe research about two and a
half years ago, I had somebodywhen I was doing a Rumble show
on it say, hey, did you everfigure out what the oranges were

(50:23):
all about in The Godfather?
And I'm like, I don't rememberoranges in The Godfather. Yeah,
they were in every death scene.So I, of course, I had to go
back and watch The Godfather,and I'm like, oh, that guy gets
killed. He falls back into thisthing of oranges and, they're
talking about hitting somebodyand they're the only thing in
the whole scene is this bowl oforanges in the middle of this

(50:47):
very long table. And I'm like,oh crap, I didn't even recognize
that.
So I'm reading a book and I findout that the preferred way of
shipping the refined heroin intoCuba was in plastic oranges. So
I got on, I think I was still onTrue Social at the time, I got
on True Social, I'm like, Ifigured out the oranges. So it's

(51:11):
been quite a journey. So anyway,that's the reason why we wanted
to keep Cuba is because we wereusing that as a drug processing,
place.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Here's just a quick I'll do a quick search. You
know? There's always theoriesonline of why the oranges are so
important in the godfather. It'sinteresting. Right?
The oranges are the powerfulsymbol of death and but, you
know, it's like what you saymakes

Speaker 2 (51:36):
way more do with heroin. Interesting. Yes.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
It.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
So so as you I mean, really, it's like, as you're
describing all of thesedifferent elements, what I'm
seeing is basically your almostlike we have a whiteboard, and
you're just kind of mapping outhow the global syndicate
operates. It's through militaryintelligence agencies. I'm sure

(52:05):
it's heavily into big tech andinto the, you know, Wall Street
and the venture capitalists andthe funding and In Q Tel and
these kinds of things, but it'salso drug trade, running the
drug trade, which they learnfrom China.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
They launder their money at.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Big tech and stock market?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Well, they they money launder. Now it's more in the
big banks. They set up fakebanks. One of the banks that
Paul Hellywell set upspecifically in the Cayman
Islands was called Castle Bank.You find all kinds of very
interesting people at CastleBank to include Paul Helliwell.
But did you know and at thetime, so these were set up like

(52:50):
in the early 70s. BCCI, have youheard of that bank?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Okay, the Bank of Credit and Commerce
International was set up by aPakistani guy. It was registered
in Luxembourg, but actually ranout of the city of London. They
became within a couple of yearsof existence, the seventh
largest bank in the entireworld, and the entire thing was
a CIA operation. All they didwas launder drug money. Seventh

(53:17):
largest bank in the world, theylaundered drug money and weapon
sales money, illicit weaponsales.
Oh, and people. And they alsohad So that bank was set up
primarily to deal withAfghanistan and Asia money. They
also set up, well, primarily theMiddle East, because at this

(53:38):
point, when that was set up, itwas Afghanistan, Turkey, and
Northern Iran had a whole bunchof opium in it too. Then they
set up Nugent Hand Bank inAustralia to deal with the Asian
money. So Nugent Hand was madeup of a lawyer called Nugent and
a Green Beret guy by the name ofHand, Major Hand.

(54:00):
Major Hand took care of theweapons and deals, and Hand was
the money guy for the drugmoney. And both of those banks,
along with Castle Bank, was allset up by the CIA to do nothing
but money launder. Now, thoseboth BCCI got exposed in, I
think, 1992. And so as it'sgoing down the tubes and getting

(54:26):
exposed, somebody takes outNugent. He's found assassinated
in his Mercedes car.
And so the big banks basicallytake over. If you just do a
search on money laundering oflarge banks like UBS, HSBC,

(54:46):
Credit Suisse, Chase, who weknow is just involved with
Jeffrey Epstein, you're going tofind that there's trillions of
dollars in money laundering andno one ever goes to jail. They
pay a fine. And the fine is likenot even 1% of the money that

(55:08):
they're found guilty of moneytrafficking. That's because it's
controlled.
The entire thing is controlled.They know there's going to be a
cost of doing it and they don'tcare. You get Asia obviously is
still in play to some extent,but that starts winding down

(55:30):
after the Vietnam War, right, inthe 70s. So where do we go? We
immediately flip to Afghanistan,and we've got to get the opium
going there.
So we basically bait the SovietUnion in, and that's a whole
story as well because there wasa false flag involved there too.
And by the way, we overthrew theking there too in order to get

(55:50):
our puppet in there to get himto do what we wanted for the
engagement with the SovietUnion. So now we're in
Afghanistan. Opium justskyrockets there. What happens
after we pull out ofAfghanistan?
The Taliban takes over, and theTaliban you've been taught is
the really, really bad guys.Well, in 2000, do any search on

(56:13):
any search engine and ask forthe twenty years, ten years
before and ten years after theyear 2000 on opium production,
you're going to see that in theyear 2000, it basically goes
away. Well, what happened? Oh,02/2011, and we're back in

(56:34):
Afghanistan and it skyrockets topeaks that it had never seen
before. So I don't think that'sa coincidence.
And so after we kind of get thatgoing back again, we move in the
80s, 70s, early 80s, down to theCrystal Triangle. So we've got

(56:59):
the Golden Triangle, theCrescent Triangle, and now we
got the Crystal Triangle down inSouth America. And it's
primarily focused on the cocaleaf creating cocaine. Now
here's one of the observationsjust to get the whole loop in
here. I had no idea until Istarted doing this project, the

(57:20):
amount of chemicals that isrequired to make heroin and
cocaine.
It's tons and tons. It's a verycomplicated process. And as a
matter of fact, if you just lookin Taiwan at how many
pharmaceuticals, because that'show they hide them, they're

(57:43):
chemical or pharmaceutical labs.There's a crap ton on a tiny
island of pharmaceuticals. Whatare they manufacturing there?
So when I got to the CrystalTriangle, and I didn't even know
there was a thing until aboutsix months ago, but it's
actually the name of it, youlook at Columbia and you go back

(58:06):
to the late 70s, well if ittakes tons and tons of chemicals
and they have no chemicalproduction capability in
anywhere in Latin America, whereis that chemical coming from?
Oh, The United States, the sametransnational syndicate. So
they're just mysteriouslyshipping a crap ton of the four
chemicals it requires to makecocaine and no one says

(58:29):
anything? Well, eventuallysomebody said something and
Congress forbid them from doingit. And they knew all along, but
until somebody said something,they didn't care.
And then you see some jointventures over in China of U. S.

(58:50):
Companies in chemical companiesin China. So then where did all
of the chemicals start comingfrom? China.
But DuPont, Dow, all of thosechemical companies were involved
in this and they knew they wereinvolved in it. As a matter of
fact, one of the DuPont directrelatives, his last name because

(59:13):
of marriage, it was a femaleDuPont to a male Hitchcock. He
literally is the guy that wasselling all the LSD to the CIA
for MK Ultra. And there's somany of these companies that are
like the rubber companies, theGoodyear, Goodrich were involved

(59:35):
in the massacinations inVietnam. There were big rubber
plantations in Africa, which isthe reason why we overthrew a
bunch of countries there.
Rubber in Brazil, we overthrewthat country in like 1963, all
for these resources. So now weget to Columbia and I just spent

(59:58):
like the last six months reallyfocusing on that whole
operation. And that's why whenthe recent target of this
Venezuelan fishing boat, I waslike, yeah, that's not a
Venezuelan fishing boat. You mayhave put a couple of Venezuelans

(01:00:19):
on a boat, but they don't makecocaine in Venezuela. They make
it in Colombia.
Depending on who you ask, thelowest number I've ever seen is
eighty two percent, but I'veseen as high as ninety eight
percent of all cocaine inAmerica comes from Colombia. And
so I'm like, there's a Colombianin there somewhere. And so like

(01:00:41):
hit number three, the Colombiangovernment announced, hey, you
took our people. And I'm like,bingo, I knew there's Colombia's
in there somewhere. But Columbiais the heart.
So as soon as that happened, Itold my audience, you're going
to see three things happen.There's a formal agreement with

(01:01:02):
anybody that is a large producerof drugs, which Columbia is,
that you will sign an agreementsaying that you will work with
us to eradicate drugs. I said,that will be pulled. It
happened. The next thing thatwill happen is all foreign aid
will be cut off to Columbia.
That's happened. The next thingis gonna happen is we're gonna

(01:01:22):
go in there and dismantle everyfreaking thing in Colombia that
has anything to do with theproduction of cocaine. That's
what I'm waiting on. Becauseuntil that happens, the entire
country of no one president,even if that guy is a good guy,
can take out because there's anarco elite. And their gladio

(01:01:46):
program in Venezuela has 20,000paramilitary trained to protect
the drug trade.
20,000. And you've got to takethem all out. They've not ever
done anything other than be anarco guard. That's all they've

(01:02:07):
ever done their entire life. AndThe US and the CIA trained them.
We literally bring them here totrain them. We go there and
train them. We train them to doexactly what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
And so I've got a million questions, but I'm going
try to narrow myself into just acouple. My big one is how do you
make sense of all this in termsof America today with what's
happening in our country andlooking at the tension, looking

(01:02:42):
at the racial tension, theCharlie Kirk assassination, the,
you know, high you know, the thethe stabbings of people, like
the, you know, Irene, the onethat was stabbed on the bus
became viral. And, I mean, justit seems like from what from my
perspective, what we're seeingin America is we're seeing the

(01:03:03):
tension. Like if you couldmeasure tension, you're seeing
it go up and up and up and up.So how do you make sense of
what's happening right now inAmerica and what do you think
comes next?

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
So I would take you back to the first Trump term
because we experienced much thesame thing. That's my gauge of
whether they're with thesyndicate or they're not with
the syndicate. If he was withthe syndicate, none of that crap
happened to Biden, none of thatcrap happened to Obama, none of

(01:03:38):
it happened to Clinton, none ofit happened to the Bushes, it
happened to Trump. So they triedfour soft coups against Trump.
The Russiagate thing, theUkraine phone call, blah blah
blah.
So he's not part of them. Now Iview Trump's first term, with

(01:03:59):
some of the people he hired, toinclude Bolton Bolton and,
Elliott Abrams, who's aconvicted Iran Contra guy. He's
literally a criminal that waspardoned by Bush senior,
involved in, the overthrow ofNicaragua. He, during Trump's
first administration, him andBolton were involved in trying

(01:04:19):
to overthrow, Venezuela in 2019.Those two people specifically
along with Mike Pompeo.
But I view that entire operationas bringing those people into
his administration because oneof the things most people who've
never been in the militarydoesn't understand, if they're
on the government payroll,everything they do on their

(01:04:40):
government phone and on theircomputer is viewable without a
subpoena. You have everything.You have all of the people they
talk to. You can monitor anyphone line without a subpoena.
They have everything.
And I believe that's what thatwhole four years was about, is

(01:05:00):
trying to network everythingthat I've just explained to you,
the foreign people that areinvolved in it. So when he hit
the ground running earlier thisyear, the tension exploded
because that's the way theycontrol people. And if you

(01:05:23):
listen, don't get involved init. If you listen and you watch
the way the both on the rightand the left, you just heard
Lindsey Graham screaming like astuck pig about killing people
and he's fine with it. And youhave the people on the left
screaming about killing people.

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They are doing this on purposeto get your emotional
temperature up so they cancontrol you. Oh my God, please
save me. I don't like all ofthis tension. And then you just
look for the government for thepeople that can calm it back
down. And it's not going to bethe people that are going to fix
it that are going to calm itdown.
The people that are gonna fix itis going to have to do things

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like ICE is doing right now toget those people the hell out of
our country. That's not going tobe emotionally satisfying for
people who have been taught towatch all of these stupid
reality shows that hook thememotionally and they're on this
artificial emotional high onsocial media literally every

(01:06:28):
day. So if those people aredoing the things, the people
that are hooked on the emotionare going to fall for it every
single time. What you have to dois disengage yourself mentally
and evaluate what is happeningon what's best for your personal

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individual interest. Havingillegal aliens, especially the
criminal ones, but all of them,out of this country is
beneficial for every singleAmerican.
And regardless of how much painit's going to cause, every
single one of those people arebringing that pain on themselves

(01:07:11):
by staying here. They are allfree to leave. They get money to
leave and a free ticket. If youchoose not to do that, then and
I think that whole thing wasbrilliant. You know, initially,
because I'm very fiscallyconservative, I was like, Why
are you paying them?
Just stick their butt on anairplane. And I'm like, No,

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that's brilliant. That's reallybrilliant because now people who
are like me will go, they werewilling to pay you when you're
still here. You know what Imean? So it kind of softens the
rhetoric around how evil Trumpis by making no.

(01:07:53):
He's literally paying them toleave. Nobody paid them to come
here that we know of.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
And so do you if you look at this Gladio playbook,
which is against strategy oftension, you know, driving
people into the middle, and youhave the increasing of tension,
and it keeps building andbuilding and building until it
pops. And that pop usually iswhen you'll have civil war,

(01:08:21):
you'll have a coup, you'll havea number of things that a false
flag event that create the forthe people of that country, it
creates this emotional kind oftrauma and shift that is they're
able to use to redirect into amassive shift in society where
they come in and Yeah, bring in

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
and they're the saviors.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Exactly. And so do you think like, do you see that
we're gonna do you predict anincreasing tension here in this
country? Like, these gladiatorunits and everything that is
happening, do you think thatthey're gonna continue to try to
dial up this tension to createthat in our country?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yes. That is their playbook. My What I'm seeing
though is a lot of preempting ofthat. The recent takedown of
that terror cell that justhappened in the last forty eight
hours or seventy two hours.There does seem to be a

(01:09:21):
heightened level of preemptivetaking down.
And I don't know if you've paidattention because I pay
attention to the monumentalamount of drug busts that are
happening. Literally tons cominginto the Houston Port, massive
amounts of drugs beingintercepted. That tells me that

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they're out ahead of thenetwork, that they're watching
them. And I explained that tosomebody the other day, they
were like, you know, they'rejust like randomly blowing
blowing up boats. And I said,No, they're not.
I said, If you understandmilitarily, The Caribbean is a

(01:10:07):
very big body of water. Theyfound a tiny little boat. They
didn't just find that tinylittle boat, they tracked that
tiny little boat from where itstarted until it got into
international waters. That's alevel of surveillance that most
people have no clue about. Wehave the capability to see what

(01:10:32):
color eyes you are from space.
That level, although I know allabout the whole digital ID and
all that other crap, but inthese operations, that level of
surveillance, of illegalitygoing on, for the people sitting
in Colombia, who have 20 ofthose boats going out every 15

(01:10:58):
minutes, they're going, oh shit,how'd they get that one? And
then another one, and then, oh,and then we're gonna go over the
Pacific and we're gonna getthose coming off the coast over
there too. Oh crap, They itlooks now to them like we have
the entire and we just got asub. I said, you guys buckle up

(01:11:19):
because a crap ton of that'scoming in by air. And when we
start taking down aircraft,whether it's in the air or on
the ground, there's going to bea whole lot of ruckus around
that.
A crap ton of it comes in byair. So I think that there is
such a level now of awareness ofthe criminals that we have our

(01:11:43):
eyes on you, that they're in astate of panic. And it's better
they be in a state of panic thanus.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Exactly. Exactly. Well, we've already gone well
well, not well past an hour, butwe've already hit our hour mark,
and I wanna be mindful of ofyour time. I thought there was
gonna be, you know, a part twoand part three to this
discussion because I think thatwe could we could spend, you
know, hours just talking aboutEurope post World War two. I
have a feeling that you've got aBut lot more to say about as we

(01:12:13):
are wrapping up, I wanna makesure that I bring attention to
your Twitter.
I still call it Twitter. I don'tlike these x. The x is stupid.
Your Twitter profile, which I'llmake sure that I link in the
description, which is just it'sit's at, colonel towner. And,
also, I wanna highlight on yourTwitter profile here.
If you click click on view moreof your profile, here you have

(01:12:36):
your links to your Gladio one onone, your Substack, your Rumble
account, and your online storeif people want to, purchase your
merchandise. So I'll make surethat's linked below. And I just
I wanna thank you for respondingto my Twitter, you know, DM. I
said, hey. You know, how aboutwe do a show together?
Because I saw you, and I I I'mfascinated by this stuff. But I

(01:12:57):
also just wanna thank you fordoing what you're doing and
trying to get this informationout. You're doing a good job at
it. It's apparent that you'revery well researched. And I
guess I'll just ask you if youhave any final thoughts as we're
wrapping up today.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
So just a little bit, about how I do this. On X, I
have a 04:00 show almost everyday. I do travel quite a bit
like I'm leaving tomorrow. So Iwon't be doing a 04:00 show for
a couple of days. But generally,Monday through Friday, I have a
04:00 show.
And we go through books. Like Isaid, I've read over 120 books

(01:13:32):
on this. So I pick out fromthose books that I've read.
They're all in my Rumble and wehave them organized. If you go
on a laptop, not your app,there's a playlist button and it
drops down each book that I'vedone and all of the different
parts of that book.
Currently we're doing a book byAnya Parapill, I'm not going to

(01:13:54):
pronounce her name correctly,that's called Corporate Coup,
and it's all about Venezuela andits recent history. We will
follow that book. Yeah, therethey are. We will follow that
book by this book here calledThe Mafia, the CIA, and George
Bush. That's going to be ournext book when we get done with

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Anya's book.
And this book, The Mafia, CIAand George Bush, is all about
the failings of the savings andloans. And people would go,
well, what's that got to do withGladio? It has everything to do
with Gladio because, and again,I was shocked. The savings and

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loan debacle happened in the1980s. What else happened in the
80s?
Oh, Iran Contra. Oh, the crackcocaine in Southeast Los Angeles
and using drugs to pay for theContras, all laundered through
the savings and loans in a verysmall group of people that
purposely collapsed the savingsand loan. It is literally with

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and I just explained how themafia is in it, CIA, and the
politicians in that book. AndWilliam Polly makes a guest
appearance in the book. I justabout fell out of my chair.
I mean, the man is literallyeverywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
So I encourage people I'll pull that up again. So I'll
make sure, again, your links arein there. So as you mentioned,
on your Rumble channel, if yougo over to playlists, and this
is again, not on the app, thison a then you can see all of
your different playlists whereyou're going over different
books, and you've got, you know,11 videos on hidden towers,

(01:15:41):
you've got, you know, so anyway,you have all the information
there in addition to your main,you know, channel information.
So, well, colonel, it's been apleasure speaking with you. This
is our first time meeting, soit's a pleasure meeting you.
I really enjoy speaking with youand thank you. We'll definitely
do this again. I reallyappreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Absolutely. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Thank you.