The Secret AI Plan to Enslave Humanity — And Why It Will FAIL w/ Todd Callender - Man in America Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a
world gone mad. I'm your host,Seth Holehouse. As we witness
what's happening in the worldaround us, we're seeing a lot of
things that are pretty scary.And I'd say that the number one
thing that concerns me is thedevelopment of AI and the
technology that could be used inconjunction with AI to control

(00:38):
us, the technocratic system, andnot the digital prison, like,
that you might think of in termsof you looking at China, the
social credit scores, and it'sall part of it. But the much
deeper and much more frighteningaspect of that is the nanotech
that they are putting into ourbodies through vaccines, through
aerosolized sprays, throughmosquitoes, and much more.

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But then if you break down thisplan and where it leads to, you
can't look at it without reallydiving into the battle of good
versus evil and the fact thatthey're trying to use these AI
systems and this technology tobypass our own free will, which
is God given. And if you look atit from that lens, it's
frightening, but it also givesyou a lot of hope. And so

(01:22):
joining me today is my goodfriend, Todd Callender, and
we'll be talking about some ofthe pathogens, some of the
medical aspect of what'shappening, but also the bigger
picture of the development ofAI, and why both of us actually
believe that this entire systemthey're building is going to
fail. And we've got it's notjust some theories either. It's
just we have some hard evidencethat we're looking at and

(01:42):
indicators that show that thistechnocratic AI one world system
that's being built is destinedto fail.
So please enjoy this interviewwith Todd Callender. Mister Todd
Callender, it's always apleasure to have you on the
show, and I'm just I'm I'mlooking forward to talking with
you. It's been too long, sothank you for being here.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah. Too long indeed. It's really my honor,
and I really mean that. I I soenjoy your company, and the cool
part is we get to let otherpeople listen in. So thanks for
having me.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And it's funny. It's a cool part because I feel like
that if you and I were sittingaround a campfire just talking,
that if we recorded it, itwouldn't be much different than
the conversations we have herebecause neither of us are
putting on a show. We're justtalking about what's on our
minds, where we think things aregoing, what's concerning us,
where we find hope, and andpeople get to sit in and sit in

(02:37):
and, listen to that, which isit's great. It's actually it's a
pretty cool thing because someof our interviews, gosh, some of
our interviews have, I think,gotten 500,000 plus views and
downloads. And, I think someeven maybe in the into the
millions perhaps.
And it's just a really specialopportunity to be able to have a
conversation that, for somereason other people around the

(02:57):
world, seem to be Yeah. Theythey find it useful, a a worthy
part of their time to listen tous, which is an honor. It's it's
it really is an honor to havethis this place. So

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah. And I I would add to that too. You know,
there's a I believe in aconnected consciousness. You
know, when you're spending timewith your wife, you don't have
to ask if she's upset. You knowshe's upset.
But it's not just that. There'sthere's a shared thinking that
happens, and you sometimes saythings that just resonate with
me. And when I hear you say it,I'm like, yeah, was thinking

(03:30):
that, but not in those words.And so I think that's also part
of it. There's a group, acommunity of people that are
thinking the same thing broadlyas we are.
Maybe just haven't reduced it towriting or had a conversation
about it, but I think that's theappeal of all this, is that
you've got the intestinalfortitude to actually say what
other people are thinking, Seth.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Which is true. It's got me in trouble a lot, but
it's also got me to where I am.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So we're gonna hit on a couple of different topics,
which I'm I'm really lookingforward to. We're gonna look
into kind of biotech and the thepoisoning of humanity through
different vectors, which is anongoing story. But then I also
want to spend some time digginginto AI and technocracy and not
not digging into here's howthey're going to enslave us.

(04:18):
Here's the system. Here's theprison they're building.
But I think also, perhaps moreimportantly, focusing on why we
both believe that system willfail, which I think is a really
important point. But first,let's just let's kinda hit on
just the the biological andhealth aspects. I know that
you've recently recovered fromwhat I would consider, may

(04:41):
incorrect me if I'm wrong, but abiological attack on you. And so
I'll let you start there, and wecan kinda just see where that
takes us.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, sure. Thank you. And, I'm happy to share
because I think it's an everpresent threat. I ended up
getting what was diagnosed asdengue fever. It's a viral
hemorrhagic fever, not toounlike Marbury, Ebola, Zika, you
know, all of those things whichwere man made by the way.
We have their formulas, butyeah, I'm the only guy in the

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entire country that got this,but it manifested itself with a
lot of different properties thatled some of the advising doctors
to conclude this was obviouslypathogenic designed that way but
some of those ingredients whatthey call causative agents they
manifest in very particularways. In this particular case

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there were symptomology relatingto Venezuelan equine
encephalitis, leprosy for God'ssake, and then the regular
dengue fever stuff. They call itthe bone crushing disease and
it's horrible. My point beingthis, the rollout of the mRNA,

(05:56):
the synthetic DNA, synthetic RNAshots, people thanks to you in
no small part are going I don'twant your shots. I'm not putting
anything for it in my body.
So as you see the syringe andneedles failing, people are
repulsed by that now. What hashappened and we've tracked it
all back and I'm sharingevidence with you that in place

(06:16):
of a needle in a syringe whatthey did is they introduced the
snout of a mosquito. So believeit or not, we actually found out
that Bill Gates and his crewhave been creating genetically
modified mosquitoes for someyears and releasing them all
over the place. One of thethings that I sent to you showed
that in the area where he has afactory in Brazil, this is

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supposed to stop dengue fever.Instead it created a four
hundred percent increase indengue fever and I can tell you
from this disease had I nottalked to some old medicine
docs, one in the military inparticular, I wouldn't be
talking you now because this wasthis was absolutely deadly and
people are dying of it.
But what I want people tounderstand is that this is a
different syringe. It's adifferent needle and this one's

(06:59):
flying around and it's notconfined to just mosquitoes.
It's biting insects, bitingrats, the soldiers, the Russian
soldiers and Don Bass arereporting the same symptomology
as I had. There's no mosquitoesaround, but they have rat fever.
My point is that again, theattacks are not yet over Seth.
The mandate is to eithereradicate or transform humanity

(07:22):
into something else. Either way,we're being made extinct either
by death or by transformation.And here we go. We look at the
causative agents in this are theexact same ones that you find in
the shots, and these causativeagents, as strange as that
sounds, when they've done theirjob in your body they become
general AI agents. Effectivelythey morph into becoming tools

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of artificial intelligence, goesback to some of the other
conversations we had that youknow our bodies are being
adapted and adjusted by virtueof these ingredients, Cesium 137
being one of them, into becomingtools, cloud computing machines,
batteries, power sources, andnow it's been integrated to the
point where, you know, theGoogle Mesh network has hooked

(08:10):
people into it.
Hospitals now monitor youremotely through an iPad.
There's no wires attached. Theyknow what's going on in your
body. All of this is the exactsame thing. It's the same attack
on humanity, and this is just anew vector, and I happen to be
so dis disfortunate as to sufferit.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And so with your symptoms, and you don't have to
go into details of it, butbecause I remember actually
early on when maybe you're aweek or so in this, we had a
meeting and we had to end earlybecause you just weren't feeling
well. So, you you hear denguefever and it's easy to think,
Oh, it's just like a bad fever,right? Maybe you got fever. No.

(08:49):
But what was it that you wereexperiencing?
What was the duration of this?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Three months. Three months. Yeah. It's horrible. And
I can tell you for the firstmonth, I could barely move.
I lost feeling in my body frommy waist down until midnight
every night. And then with theflick of the switch, the bone
crushing part of it came tofruition and you just sit there
and have to take the pain tillsix or 06:30 in the morning and

(09:17):
then the bone crushing partturned off and according to
Doctor. Rimalebo she said yeahthat's EMF it's obviously
responding to an EMF signal. Ibelieve that she's right because
it was midnight on the dot everynight. You're in pain all night
long, you can't sleep.
So anyway, that was thesymptomology aside from viral
hemorrhagic fevers, means youbleed out of your orifices. And

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the worst part about it is thatthe conventional treatment is
they give you Panadol for pain.That's it. You don't get
anything else and thank God Ididn't listen to the regular
docs and I hit this witheverything we had. Chlorine
dioxide, ivermectin eventuallymade Bendazole saved the day and

(10:01):
I found that to be especiallyinteresting.
One of our military docs wasable to source it for me, had to
come from a compoundingpharmacy. Why Pfizer bought the
patent? Apparently years ago youcan't find mebendazole and that
within an hour or two changed mylife and started getting rid of
this disease. So the point beingthat this looks like it's

(10:23):
another setup, right? They gaveyou the disease, the only cure
undoubtedly is their denguefever vaccine, which I know
exists.
Of course. Marburg vaccine. Allof these treatments exist when
there is an existing cure, and Ican attest to that personally,
but that cure is unavailable.Different than they took

(10:43):
ivermectin off the shelves.Hydroxychloroquine was taken off
the shelves.
So it looks to me like this isthe next setup and you find that
there's exploding rate ofchicken gungy and, Zika and all
these other viral hemorrhagicfevers. Ethiopia now has a
Marburg outbreak. Right? So theattacks aren't over. So that's
the bad news.

(11:04):
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don't have to listen to go takeyour mebendazole. I'm sorry. Go
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figure out how to solve thisproblem. Thank god.

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Preserve its power. Do you thinkin terms of how this you
mentioned mosquitoes, right? Andand kind of instead of having a
syringe, you just got a littlebug thing, right? And I know
that we, you know, we talkedabout, the Brazil study, which I
see I saw it before actually,the big release. Is it Oxitec,

(12:45):
right?
Is that the I think actually Ithink I might have the link for
it.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
The amazing part, let me just add to this. These
mosquitoes are emergency useauthorized, no different than
the COVID shots. Why would youneed to get a mosquito license?
So that tells you that this isgenetically modified, it's
loaded with pathogens becausethey actually had to get it used

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as a medical device, EUA,Otherwise, mosquitoes are the
invention of God. You can'tpatent those.
You don't license those. So herewe are. You know, this is a
medical device, as they call it.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And what about, I wanna pull up the this u is it I
think it's a UN program. Right?The Yeah. World Musculoskeletal
program. So well, first off,I'll highlight.
This is this is one of thecreepiest images I think I've
I've seen in a while. Like, thisis what a strange image. Of
course, we know that they'realways they're always putting in

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the symbolism, and they'rethey're layering these things
in. But you look at this, theWorld Mosquito Program, which
I'd like to have you help kindof define what this is and what
it's But even looking at themain image on their website of
this girl wearing a creepylooking mosquito mask, I think
that's what it is. Right?
She's got a mosquito mask, andshe's kind of let's zoom out

(14:09):
there, she's running from thisstrange reminds me of the, from
the the the Pooh movie that cameout in the seventies of the
heffalumps and the woozles.There's it's kind of like weird
trippy scene in it, but Trippy.It's just creepy. But so what is
this? So what what is the worldmosquito program?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, it's another fraud. So no different than we
had the COVID fraud. They tookflu and turned it into something
different. The same thing here.So the story goes that there's
this horrible thing calleddengue fever and it's mosquito
borne and all of that is true.
However, Bill Gates and histeam, WHO Gates, the usual

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suspects said we're going togenetically modify mosquitoes,
male mosquitoes such that whenthey mate with the females
they'll make the femalesincapable of reproducing. So
that's the idea is that somehowthat we're going to get rid of
dengue by killing off all thefemale mosquitoes, mosquito
female mosquitoes the ones thatbite and pass disease. So we

(15:10):
hear. However, everywhere thatthey have built one of these
factories and are releasingbillions a day of these
mosquitoes, the dengue feverrate goes up by four hundred
percent or more. So it'sobviously not eradicating
mosquitoes, it's obviously noteradicating dengue fever, it's
just another pretext.
If you can imagine Seth, theyhave an air wing, they have an

(15:34):
air force, the World MosquitoProgram, you can look it up for
yourself. We noticed thisbecause I was looking on
ForeFlight and I'm a pilot and Iwas looking at this aircraft
flying around the Florida Keysand you look at the owner you
click on it and say holy cowthat's the World Mosquito
Program and there were two moreof them on other parts of their
mosquitoes all over the FloridaKeys but you can look it up on

(15:56):
flight tracker things of thatnature. They have their own
freaking Air Force deployinggenetically modified mosquito
drones that are actuallylicensed by the FDA. If you can
imagine this, no different thanthe EUA shots they passed around
to the world in the firstinstance. It's another means of

(16:17):
doing the exact same job using aSynbio needle and syringe.
That's the only difference.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
By this point, it's like there's nothing that will
surprise you. Nothing. And Ithink a lot of what we've talked
about seemed, maybe two or threeyears ago, these were more
fringe ideas, but now you lookat them and they're not fringe
anymore. Like, people are seeingthem and realizing them. And, I
mean, even Tucker Carlson hasDane Wigginton on his on his
show talking about chemtrails.

(16:51):
And, like, I remember I had DaneWigginton on probably four years
ago. And at that point, he wassomeone that, know, had had very
little public appearances asidefrom podcasts like my own. One
thing that you mentioned,though, is that you mentioned
the leave behind technology andhow it ties into AI. And this is

(17:13):
something that I think reallyneeds more attention brought to
it because if you look at thevaccines, which I think the
vaccines were a payload of a lotof different things, but I
definitely think it was atechnology delivery platform.
And if you look at then whetherit's HARP or the five gs network
and all the patents, many ofwhich that we have looked at and
the, you know, the W band, youknow, the wireless body of

(17:35):
network or is that what it is?
Wireless body area network. Areanetwork, right? It kind of
explain a little more whatyou're referring to with this
kind of leave behind technologythat was there.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, sure. So we being our research team, as you
know, we've got a full time teamthat does this in support of
public interest litigationbecause we actually file
lawsuits to try and stop thisstuff. The first landmark case
was against the DOD that reallyled us down this trail. Was
before the shots came out, wehad discovered that the military

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had done their own studies usingthese vaccines and the result of
that clinical trial take thisinto account, it'll blow your
mind 44,000 service members andtheir families, it's important
to note, and their families wereparticipants in this clinical
trial. 178 people out of 44,000finished it.

(18:33):
There were 30,000 their reportsfiled that were buried by the
Defense Health Agency. This isin advance of the order for
everybody to take shots, and bythe way in their own clinical
studies there were twelve ninetyone new diseases caused by the
shots. Twelve ninety one newdiseases the participants went

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home with. Twelve hundred deathswere buried, eighty two percent
spontaneous abortion rate. Thedeaths included, if you can
imagine newborns getting COVIDshots.
This was a year before the orderwas issued. What I'm trying to
say to you is that they knew theside effects, they knew all of
this a year before they said,hey, you have to take this
stuff. So it started me downthis trail because in that

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report they made reference tosomething called an ePCR device.
It's an in touch eDiary ePCRdevice. What they were doing was
using low energy Bluetooth, whatwe now call wearables.
Bobby Kennedy was up theretalking, everybody needs a
wearable, your Fitbit, yourphone. They were using a program
in these wearables to transmitreal time changes in people's

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bodies, and otherwise, tosomebody in Israel who laundered
the data, sent the data back tothe DOD, the FDA and Pfizer and
said safe and effective. Theyburied all those results. The
point being in there we alsofound Cesium-one 137, this
radioactive material they makenuclear weapons with. Why?

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Because as you read throughliterature, you come to find is
that it's a genetic modificationof your body, not just to change
you into a new species so theycan own you, but it's for the
purpose of harnessing you andintegrating your body into the
AI matrix. So they bring AI intowhole of government. Those
computers are now networked intopeople. How do I know it? Again,

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I've got a whistleblower.
She is a network engineer. Herjob is to access people's
wireless body area networks andintegrate them into the hospital
computers. She's been doing thisfor years now. The technology
exists, it's wireless and whatI'm saying to you is the
components in these shotswhether delivered by mosquito or
delivered by syringe isimmaterial. It's the exact same

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chemical compounds and mostimportantly something called
causative agents that changeyour body around, they mutate it
into a tool to be used for datastorage, cloud computing and
power supply.
And then we demonstrated to yousome time ago there was actually
a company that was harnessingpeople's biorhythms. They had

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already used 1,400,000,000,000heartbeats to mine
cryptocurrency. Where did I seethat before? Oh yeah, the Bill
Gates patent WIPO-twentyTwenty-six606. The patent was
awarded in 2020 before all thisunfolded.
The point I'm trying to makehere is with the leave behind

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technology was already installedand now for those that they
missed, there are mosquitodrones or rat drones or whatever
you want to call them that arebeing delivered, are programmed
to deliver these things and whenyou start to understand the
integration, Professor Giordanofrom Georgetown University is
talking about ten years ago,when the nanobots are inside the

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brain because they do, they passthe blood brain barrier,
biodistribution as a whole body,they have the ability to change
the way people think, even on anad hoc individual basis. You
think the thoughts are your own,but they're not. So how would
you distinguish where peoplehave relationships with AI?
Ladies have boyfriends, theyname their AI boyfriend. How do

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you distinguish that anydifferent from a Synbio person?
It's just taking a host body andthe scary part is that this is
here, this is now, this is notsome future, this is not
speculation. We have theevidence. You have a lot of it.
We've given it over your time.But now we have to contend with
this.
And I don't see anybody, Seth,doing anything much about it in

(22:40):
government or otherwise.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Oh, there's also, I saw recently a woman in Japan
that married her AI avatar. Shecreated this AI man, and she
actually had a wedding and shemarried him, which is I mean,
not only was it weird, but itjust it's frightening, actually,
because it's, again, it's themerger of man and machine. But

(23:04):
actually, there's something Iwanted to I was just kind of
looking through, I found this. Ihad saved this, I wanted to talk
to you about it. I'm not sure ifyou probably saw this, but this
is from 7Cs over on Twitter.
He's got a lot of good research.He says MIT has developed
bioelectronic devices that afterIV injection are trafficked
through the circulatory systemand implant autonomously in

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brain regions of inflammation.He says they also demonstrate
that they enable wirelesslycontrolled focal stimulation of
deep brain regions such asventralateral thalamic nucleus
in the rodent brain, providing anon surgical brain implant for
focal neuromodulation, right?Neuromodulation is control the

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brain, right? Control thenervous system.
Yeah. That takes advantage ofimmune cells natural trafficking
of sites inflammation. Havegiven electronics that circulate
through the vasculature thename, circulatronics. And so, I
mean, is as much as people say,oh, this is some weird
conspiracy, it's like, no. Thisis

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh, it's a conspiracy. It's just not a
theory.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Well, exactly. There you go. Right? So basically, so
it says the realization of thecirculatronics brain stimulators
requires the development ofwireless free floating
electronic devices that areminiaturized to sit to fit
inside of the vasculature, thecirculation of these devices
without being eliminated fromthe bloodstream, capabilities in
the recognition of and selfimplementation in desired brain

(24:32):
regions. So there's some yeah,it's kind of cyborgs, right?
So then here's here's literallylet's see. Pull up

Speaker 2 (24:40):
the Bio. That's what that is. Synthetic biology.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
So this is here's the actual MIT news press release
about this is from about a yearago. Wearable devices for cells
says by snugly wrapping aroundneurons these devices could help
scientists probe subcellularregions of the brain and might
even help restore some brainfunction. So I mean this is
exactly what you're talkingabout. Says these battery free

(25:05):
subcellular devices made of asoft polymer are designed to
gently wrap around differentparts of neurons such as axons
and dendrites without damagingthe cells upon wireless
accutation with light. By snuglywrapping around wrapping
neuronal processes, they couldbe used to measure or modulate a
neuron's electrical or metabolicactivity at a subcellular level.

(25:27):
So it's like this, and again,this is just what they're
telling us. So it's like, okay.Well, if MIT is publishing this
publicly, what's going on behindthe scenes? Because we know that
these schools, MIT, you know, alot of the the large schools,
they're just they're just a wayof the government and the
military industrial complex todo their research and develop
weapons and weapons technologyin a way that can't be traced

(25:50):
back to them, you know, throughgrants. And it's a way that
they've hidden themselves fromactually developing these things
that you would never want theDOD developing, but they do it
through research and everythingthrough these schools that are
funded by Epstein and Wexner andall these mysterious people that
just it's I mean, here it is.
Right?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Here it is. Yeah, it is. And what that also makes
reference to is something calledoptogenetics. Doctor. Lee
Merritt, a good friend of mine,she is the leader in
understanding this.
But this light frequencies andone of the other things we came
to understand in studying theeffect of Cesium-one 137 on a
body Cesium 137 by the way was alisted ingredient in the shots.

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Not only that but we found it inthe tests that we did of people
that got the shots. But one ofthe things it does is it takes
frequencies in the five gs rangeand it amplifies them into the
six gs range. That's takinggigahertz and transferring them
into terahertz. Terahertz is thelight range.
So when you talk about thesethings now interacting with

(26:54):
light, we actually found there'sa glycoprotein called M Cheri
and it has the ability to turnyour heart on and off when it's
introduced to a certainfrequency range of light. Of
course it is, but this is calledoptogenetics and that's all part
of the plan to integrate ourbodies to be usable as machines.

(27:16):
Our government doesn't hide fromthis anymore. They actually call
it what it is. There's adivision of HHS called SynBio,
stands for synthetic biology,and this is a whole of
government approach.
It's been fully funded. When youlook through the documents where
they integrate all of this intothe government, it's 20
different agencies involved.It's a whole of government

(27:38):
approach. So now you understandthat this isn't just some one
off thing. This wasn't just somemistake.
This has been planned for a verylong time and it is global in
every respect. The question Ihave for you Seth is what are we
going to do about it? And I havesome ideas, but it's here. This
is not speculation. On thatnote, I want people to

(27:59):
understand something here.
A conspiracy is a legal term.It's a criminal law term. It's a
crime. It's a felony underfederal law. It is an agreement
between two or more people toplan a crime in one step and
furtherance.
That's the definition. So whenpeople run around saying it's a
conspiracy, probably it is. Aconspiracy theory is something
called probable cause. That'swhat cops use to arrest people.

(28:21):
So it's easy to attach thislabel and say, oh, well, we're
not gonna listen to that anymorebecause it was labeled this.
Well, think for yourselves alittle bit. Why where did that
label come from? How and why?It's because people are planning
a criminal enterprise and takingone step in furtherance, thus a
conspiracy. It's an appropriatename.
I just want people to understandits real use.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And so I think that it's really important when
discussing all these differentaspects of what's happening, and
it seems frightening, which itis. But I think it's really
important to take that kind of10 or a 100,000 foot view of,
okay, what is the endgame ofthis? And I'll I'll kinda I'll
I'll throw out my kind oftheory, but I wanna hear your
thoughts as well. Since the dawnof time, I think there's always

(29:07):
been good and evil on thisearth. Right?
We're aware of that. The theserpent in the garden. It just
since the beginning of man,there's been evil forces that
want to control. Now evilcontrols through slavery,
through, you know, manipulationthrough fear and mind control
and all these things. That's howevil can controls.
You look at, you know, nationsthat have been swallowed up by

(29:28):
communism. Right? It's it's thesame thing. You know, through
propaganda, information control,brainwashing, you know, and that
this has really been it's it'skind of been the end goal if if
you look and you research deepenough and not that deep,
actually, to get arrive at theseunderstandings that there has
been a long kind of played outconspiracy of powerful, evil
people,

Speaker 2 (29:48):
which

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I think many are not even probably human. They're,
you know, they're probablydemons and incarnate and who
knows what else. Yeah. That havewanted to enslave mankind, as a
whole, right, to create somesort of centralized, you know,
new world order, one worldgovernment, which, know,
obviously, we're familiar withthese terms. But I think that
they realized that they wouldonly be able to do that through
technology.

(30:09):
Now I think it's easy for peopleto look at the the technocratic
grid. Like, look at, you know,China, the social credit system.
And, you know, they have are,you know, these are kinda
controls, of course, but thoseare almost, in essence, no
different than, say, pinning upan animal in a cage. Right? And
so and watching them and, youknow, maybe have you have a
shock buzzer.
Okay. Hit the button. You can'tdo that. You can't do that. But
you're still in a cage.

(30:30):
But I think that the ultimateend goal of this is actually to
not even need that. Because Ithink that if they can have that
level of control inside of ourown bodies, where they can
control our thoughts, our brainwaves, control our functions,
they can pacify us, that that'sreally the that's the the the
the end end goal, as far as Iunderstand with this, is that

(30:51):
it's been a systematic plan toget technology into our bodies,
build the infrastructure aroundus through five g, through HARP,
through Starlink, satellite,etcetera. So build the control
network around us and get thattechnology into our bodies,
which I think was one of themain objectives of the COVID,

(31:11):
the vaccine, quote unquotevaccine program, was to get that
technology payload inside ofpeople that they can then use to
eventually control us. Becauseif in the future, you know, you
don't need a prison. You don'tneed walls.
If if you can literally, youknow, through some sort of
digital device, controleveryone, that's great. But I

(31:32):
also think that this goes handin hand with the development of
AI in the understanding thatit'd be very difficult for them
to build some sort ofcentralized computer that would
require humans to monitor it tocontrol everybody. It'd it'd be
very difficult for them toachieve that. So I think that
the development of an AI systemthat could act as the
controller, and this is what'shappening in China. You know,
China's you know, they're usingtheir AI system to run their

(31:53):
social credit score andeverything.
It's also you look what Palantiris doing, all these it's very AI
driven. I do think that that'sreally the end goal is to have
some sort of AI overlord thathas the access to everything,
our thoughts, our emotions,whether it's through wearables
or whether it's through internalkind of wearables. Right? Things
that are attached at thecellular level. And I do think

(32:15):
that that's actually where thisall leads to.
Now I'm not saying that's wherewe're going, but I think that's
the end goal for them, is tohave it so we all have this
technology in our bodies. Theyhave the infrastructure to
control. They have the AI brainthat the data centers needed to
to do this. And overnight,they've got literally, they've
got the entire human populationas slaves. So Yes.

(32:37):
I mean, it seems kinda wild, butI mean, do you think No. That's
a a a fair assessment of wherethey want this to go?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
No. I think it's a fair assessment of where we are.
Where they want to go is a stepfurther. And this was again part
of the research when wediscovered there's a division of
synbio in HHS. Their mission isto genetically modify every
plant and animal species on theplanet.
And when you come to understandthe integration of cesium into

(33:06):
us, it's not just us, it's anyliving tissue. And the cesium
has that same effect. Iteffectively turns that living
tissue into a resource thatamplifies, transmits, it
receives and acts as atransducer. In other words, it
can modulate signals,frequencies for that matter. So

(33:27):
when you come to understand andyou look into their integration
and use of bio rhythms, Thatmeans all biorhythms, all of
life and the ability for them todo that now so much so that
there are already standardswritten by the IEEE, you got to
have a lot of data forstandards.
They're actually changing theworld from God's creation into

(33:51):
their creation. How could Satanever escape this domain? It's
not his. Well, he's changing itinto his. They're stealing life
itself, Seth.
How do we define life? How do wedefine our existence? We were
given the opportunity to be inthis domain by God and they're

(34:11):
stealing that, such that everyliving thing is now theirs.
That's actually what the lawsays. It goes back to this case
we actually cited in our case tothe Supreme Court.
It's molecular pathology versusmarigenetics 2013 US Supreme
Court held use of mRNA to modifyanything, a species, changes the

(34:32):
species number one from God'screation to theirs, they own it.
It makes it into theintellectual property, personal
property for that matter. Sothat's my view is, and I think
this is in furtherance of aneven a higher goal. Look at this
from a planetary point of view.I don't know, like you said,
Seth, I don't know who theseowners are in terms of are they

(34:54):
human?
I can't bring myself to believethat. Are they aliens or a
different species? And I thinkthe answer is yes. I think that
whoever these overlords are,they've been here for thousands
of years. They've alreadyenslaved us the entire time in
just different ways, and nonenone of that's changed other
than now their technologicalability to actually pull it off.

(35:16):
That's the concern.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
It is, but then it's also to me, it's also where the
opportunity lies. Because whenyou start to see how dependent
they are on this technology toachieve that plan, that becomes
the Achilles' heel, is thattechnology. And this is what I

(35:38):
think is interesting. And I knowthat you follow this a lot
because you're following themarkets a lot closer than I do,
and you're kinda tuned into alot of things, which is, you
know, one of the reasons one ofthe many reasons why I enjoy
these conversations is thatthey're trying to build this AI
and this infrastructure, but Idon't think that they're gonna
be able to. And there's a lot ofindicators that that show that.

(36:01):
And one thing I saw recentlythat was a I wish I would have
saved it, I think, a screenshotof my phone, is that I think it
was something like only 5% ofthe companies that have had that
have invested on using AI fortheir businesses. I think, I
think literally, I think it'slike only 5% actually saw a
return on that investment. So asmuch as they're talking about,

(36:23):
oh, AI is gonna replace ourjobs. Okay. Yes.
To a certain degree, we're gonnasee that. But, you know, maybe I
can I can find it? You know,once you're once you're talking,
I can look off screen and findit real quick. But I think was
literally only 5% of thecompanies that have actually
invested heavily in AI areactually seeing a return. So
there's there's some kind ofdisconnect happening there.
Like, that's the thing is, like,as I mentioned to you before we

(36:45):
started recording, I if you lookat this and you look at how
technology becomes the thecritical tool to enslave
humanity and to remove free willfrom mankind. Because if you've
got a if you if you've got, youknow, chips, you know, at a
nanotech that's actually makingyour decisions for you, like, in
my opinion, that goes againstthe the the law that God set

(37:08):
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will. And so if if Satan in hisminions are trying to build a
system using AI and technologyto bypass that free will,
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And I think that Satan has beenallowed to kind of reign free
here because I think that wehave to be tested. We have to
show, are we gonna have faithand and choose the path of
virtue and morality, or are wegonna just kind of descend into

(39:19):
being heathens and indulge inall the the pleasures of the
world that get presented to us?And I think though that that by
them trying to do it, it's likethey're they're breaking
something very fundamental aboutthe laws that God has set forth
in this world. And that I reallybelieve that there's some sort
of it's like that God has a aglass ceiling on the development

(39:40):
of technology that, like, AIwill not be able to achieve what
they think it can be. Because ifremember, these people, I like
to say they don't believe inGod, but they they they think
they believe in God, but it's alot of them, they they believe
that that, like, they're they'rebetter than God.
It's like to them, it's likeit's a it's a entity. It's a
false god. Right? It's it's theinversion, right? That someone

(40:02):
who worships Lucifer or Satan,they believe that Christ is
actually the Satan.
He's the evil one trying todeceive people. And so if these
people, if they believe that,then they're not gonna
anticipate that God has theability to limit their
technology that they'd wannause. Like, they their arrogance,
their hubris makes them thinkthey can still achieve this. And

(40:25):
so that's why I think, though,that it's and we're seeing it. I
wanna hear your your thoughts onthis, and especially as you're
you're seeing what's happeningwith the market is we're seeing
that they're they're buildingthese huge data centers, but
they can't actually power them.
They don't have the energy to.They're propping up the stock
market with the magnificentseventies tech companies, but
it's a bubble, and we're seeingthat. So it's like everything
that they're doing, it seemslike they want us to believe

(40:48):
that it's this monolithic,massive, global technocratic
system that's being built, but Ithink the whole thing is gonna
fail. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well, I I yes. The the answer is I think that
that's right, but it it's and Ilove to think that it's God's
hand because I think that that'swhat's been guiding us for the
last five years at least that,enough of humanity has woken up
to stymie this. We've so screwedup their plan in terms of people
not wanting to take the shots,people opting out of their five

(41:21):
gs phones, the 21,000,000Chinese did. All of these little
things we do that are will, I'mnot going to take a shot. I'm
not going to use five gs.
I'm not going to use AI. That'sa choice I make. I refuse to use
it. Guess what that does? It'snot just an expression of free
will, but they need us to powertheir machine, their economic
machines, the velocity of money.

(41:42):
By way of example, you look atthe Bud Light fiasco with the
transvestite spokesperson. Whathappened to Bud Light? Everybody
said, well, we're not going todrink that anymore. And all of
sudden the company's dying. Itcrashes.
You look at my son's generationin particular. About half of
those kids didn't go away tocollege because they said, what

(42:03):
am I going to do? It's going bereplaced by AI and robots. Well,
what happens to the universitysystem that everybody depends on
for jobs engine crashing down?And his generation hate AI.
They won't use it either. Iwon't use it. They won't use it.
It's a binary option. I I equateit in some respects to like the
GPS in your car.
You go to foreign city, type inthe address, you get to the the

(42:25):
location, you don't know how yougot there. And you let a machine
do your thinking. So the AI isthe same the same. Are you gonna
allow a machine to do yourthing, especially you know it's
been trained to lie and it'swrong a lot? And maybe that's
the reality they're confronting,but I think it's a function of
us not going with the program,and two, they can't change their

(42:46):
playbook.
I think that President Trump'sfirst term, albeit it didn't
look like it was that useful tous that really wanted to see
changes, it created such a delayin the master plan it doesn't
appear as the owner class isable to actually change their
plan or implementation of it. Sothe technology isn't where it

(43:07):
should be because it just didn'tget done, didn't get funded,
whatever the case is, but itgoes back to what you're saying,
and that is God's greatest giftto mankind is free will, and we
can exercise that all day everyday, and we are, and look at the
effect.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Exactly. Exactly. And even, you know, I've got friends
I've talked to, and and, they'rethey're they're telling me,
like, there's no way I'm gettinga robot. Right? Know, Elon Musk
of of, you know, billions ofoptimist robots.
There's no way I'm getting arobot in my home. I mean, like,
no way. Like, I I have it'sfunny because I have this like,
I was at the hospital, you know,quite a bit recently with with

(43:42):
you know, my father was ill, andand they had these, like, kind
of a these, like, robots kind ofon the wheels kinda going
around, and and they were sostupid. It was actually funny to
watch, but also I I had thisthis urge to, like, become
violent towards the robot. Itwas almost like it was almost
like, say, a human living in thejungle or or say you look at a
monkey.
It has this innate urge toattack a snake with a stick.

(44:05):
Right? It's like because itknows that that thing will try
to hurt it. And that was myfeeling towards it. It was like,
this thing is this, like, I I Iwanted to to, like, punch it or
or or break it or something.
And but I saw this robot. It'sfunny because it's, you know, it
was at this advanced cancerhospital, and and I saw it was
it was like standing outside theelevator, and someone walk up
and say, can you please pressthe elevator and take me to this

(44:25):
floor? And someone would pressit, the door would open, and and
it would just kind of spinaround like this, and it
wouldn't do anything, and thenthe the elevator would close.
And it was just like, what astupid machine. But actually, so
Todd, I found that that study Iwas telling you about.
So this is this is from, August21. It was an MIT study on AI
profits. So this is theheadline. This is on Axios. MIT

(44:48):
study on AI profits rattles techinvestors.
So what it says here, it saysWall Street's biggest fear was
validated by a recent MIT studyindicating that 95% of
organizations studied get zeroreturn on their AI investment.
So to me, this is it. Like, thisis God right here that we're
seeing playing out in front ofus. This is God's will. Oh, wow.

(45:09):
This is why it matters.Investors have put up with
record AI spend from techcompanies because they expect
record returns eventually. Thisstudy calls those returns into
questions, which could be anexistential risk for a market
that's overly tied to the AInarrative. So MIT MIT
researchers studied three Ipublic AI initiatives to try to

(45:29):
try and suss out the no hypereality of AI's impact on
business. So what they found,95% of organizations found zero
return despite enterpriseinvestment of 30 to
40,000,000,000 into Gen AI.
Says even firms that are nowusing AI are not seeing
widespread distribution. Sobetween the lines, companies

(45:51):
that bought AI tools were farmore successful than those built
intern those that built internalpilots. But what they're saying
is that my fear is at somepoint, people will wake up and
say, alright, AI is great, butmaybe all this money is not
actually being spent thatwisely. So this is really,
really significant. Right?
Because obviously, we know a lotof these things are driven by

(46:12):
money. They're driven by themarkets. And as much as we know
that they've got black budgetsin the trillions and all that
kind of stuff, they still needto have you know, if Nvidia
comes out, you know, say, youknow, three weeks from now with
the earnings report, they say,actually, we've found that
companies have stopped, youknow, buying our products
because the AI is not working,and they've missed their mark.
You're gonna see their stockstart to crater. And what

(46:34):
happens, not it's not if, butwhen does the the tech AI bubble
pops, I think that you're gonnasee all the wind swept out of
the sails, cause they need thatpublic sentiment.
They need the public investment,the public excitement to to get
this thing over the finish line.But what's happening here is
that we're already seeing theseindicators that it's not working

(46:54):
like they want it to. And thisthis is, like, some of those
encouraging news that I've foundin a while.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Fabulous news. And I would add to this as as you're
talking about that. It alsoreminds me in Texas, they built
these big data centers. Theywere given preferential
treatment for taxation. And thenon top of that preferential
treatment, not just taxation,they're given water and
electricity rights over humans.
You got water shortages andblackouts for humans, but not

(47:24):
for the AI data centers nearby.And so every war is fought over
resources. What is it AI needs?It needs electricity and water.
What do humans need?
Electricity, water and food. Inother words, there's going to be
a freaking war unless this getssettled. But to find that
somehow or other under Texas lawthey're given this carte blanche

(47:46):
for AI and data centers to theexclusion of humans should help
us understand where it is werank in the thinking of our
government officials. And nowthat gives us the opportunity to
say, hell no, we're not doingthat. That's my water, it's my
food, my electricity.
But it puts that paradigm to theforefront when you're going
without for some damn machinethat doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Exactly. Actually, I'm gonna pull up real quickly
here. Something I there was a Icovered this recently where Elon
Musk, was talking. I'm not sureif you saw this. It was at his,
Tesla shareholder meeting.
And let's see if I can find theclip of it. And someone had
asked him, let's see, was it AIin charge? Let me see if I can

(48:31):
pull this up quickly here. Yeah,right here. So look at this.
This is interesting becauseagain, it's gonna kinda read the
room here. I'm not sure if didyou see this clip at all?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah. So this is worth it's worth kind of
pointing out. So for one, if ifyou watched many clips of this
Tesla shareholder meeting, itwas so much excitement. It was
look how much you know, look howgreat the optimist is gonna be,
and look what we're doing withthe cyber taxi and and and the
cyber truck. And so people werejust it was like, you know, like
the Super Bowl.
Right? People were so excited.But then there's a q and a

(49:07):
section. And, so so it says Muskis asked how we can get powerful
people like himself torelinquish their power in a
supposed post scarcity world. Soif you listen to his answer,
where he admits that that in inhis view, AI is gonna be in
charge.
You can you can hear the silencein the room, and it tells you

(49:28):
that people know, like people,they weren't cheering this. As
much as they're cheering the newrobots and, look, wow, you know,
the Cybertruck can go zero to 60in two seconds and haul a
Porsche. Okay. That's great. Butwhen he says this, you can tell
people know what's going on.
So I'll play this clip and youcan hear the contact, you can
hear what's going on here. Sofifty one seconds. Let's listen

(49:49):
to this. Let me make sure it'snot too loud here.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Even today, you've mentioned though that in a post
scarcity world, the role ofmoney could diminish or become
obsolete. Mhmm. Given that muchof today's power, including
yours, is tied to wealth, do youthink achieving this abundance
would require powerful people torelinquish their power? And how
might we address resistance fromthose who hold power to make

(50:12):
this vision a reality?

Speaker 4 (50:15):
Well, I mean, I think actually long term, the AI is
gonna be in charge, to betotally frank, not humans. If if
artificial intelligence vastlyexceeds the sum of human
intelligence, it is difficult toimagine that any humans will
actually be in charge. So, wejust need to make sure that AI

(50:35):
is friendly. Yep.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Oh, now he's thinking about that. Now, we better make
sure that AI is friendly.Really?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Exactly. And that's the thing is, like, look, as
much as, like, you know, maybenow, but a little bit less, I
mean, Elon Musk was he was thehero of MAGA. Him up there with
Trump and his dark MAGA hat,and, a lot of people you know, a
of strong Christians look pastthe fact that he's his profile
picture for a long time was himdressed in a a Satan, you know,
Luciferian looking armor. Right?Yep.

(51:07):
With I think it was withBaphomet on his armor. And
everyone, you know, makingexcuses for it and saying, oh,
no. Look what he's doing anddoge and all this kind of stuff.
But this is this is the truth.Right?
Like, this should be, in in manyways, one of the most feared men
in the world in in worrying,okay. What happens when this
spirals out of control?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
What do you mean when? So so you look at Palantir
is being fully integrated intoHHS's computers. What is that?
Well, it's being used by theIsraelis now in Gaza as an
autonomous, say that word againautonomous, targeting an
eradication device. That's whatit does.
So what do we see in the earlydays of the shots? Oh, let's

(51:50):
just give the shots to the oldfolks. Melinda Gates says, Oh,
we have to give them to theblacks and the indigenous. Who
did they get rid of? It's theunfunded liabilities.
People think there's a trustfund associated. There's no
trust fund. It's a system oftransfers. They take from
working people and they give itto non working people. What they
did was eliminate their unfundedliabilities.

(52:11):
Look at this now in light ofwhat it is we're talking about.
AI and robots. What does that doto the average working people?
It makes them redundant. Itmakes them unfunded liabilities.
How are they going to meet thesepeople's obligations to feed
themselves? Universal basicincome? Who's going to pay for
that? If you're not productive,how does that work? The answer

(52:32):
it doesn't.
Effectively there's supposed tobe the replacements to us vis a
vis SenBio because we'reefficient as a means of
production of electricity andcomputing. Great! The only
problem is we don't have anyrole in it. That's a new
species. It's a non thinking.
It's a computer species, and Ithink that was a really sentinel
moment that you played therewhen one guy coughs. The room

(52:55):
was so quiet. The guy coughs.It's like, did you just say
that? Because the gravity of thesituation just landed on
everybody.
We're being made redundant, andthey just figured that out.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
But I think that people are rejecting it. I mean,
a lot

Speaker 5 (53:11):
of people

Speaker 2 (53:11):
are using I hope so.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
But you go back to what happened in 1776. What was
it? 3% of population that stoodup? Yeah. That's all it took.
And that's what, know, as we'rekind of rounding out here, I
think that it's as you know, weusually do, what are the
solutions? Where's the hope? AndI think that I've kind of put a
few small kind of quick pointsout there that I really want to
hear your thoughts, but I thinkit's A, exercising our free
will, right? Not getting smartdevices in our homes, not

(53:35):
getting a robot, notparticipating, you know, living
and trying our best to kind ofbuild a life that's outside of
that control grid. But I alsothink that it's really important
that we in this conversation,the discussion of good versus
evil and understanding the roleof that, because it's like, to
me, the most important thingthat we can do is become a more

(53:57):
moral and virtuous civilization,a more moral and virtuous
Beautiful.
Individual family, community,because it's like you realize
that it really is a battle ofgood versus evil. If and if evil
gets gets its way, there's youhave zero chance of defending
yourself from this beast system.If they've got these, you know,

(54:17):
mosquito sized drones withpayloads on them Yeah. It
doesn't matter how many guns youown. There's a lot of Americans
like, oh, we've got all ourguns.
It's like, yeah. Go watch thethe war footage of Ukraine and
Russia and watch how quicklythese, you know, like, forces
teams are being taken out by asingle drone. So that we're not
gonna be able to use flesh andblood to fight this battle.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
Try

Speaker 2 (54:39):
and shoot a mosquito with a nine millimeter. Good
luck.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And so that's what to
me, that that that's it.Obviously, it's like rejecting,
exercising free will, butfundamentally, it's just doing
everything we can to get our ourcountry, our community, our
family back to God.
Because then it's like, I thinkthen we'll deserve God's
protection. But if we don't dothat and we become Sodom and
Gomorrah and and, you know, theBabylonian America, like, then

(55:05):
why do we deserve to beprotected? But anyway, what what
are your thoughts, Tom?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
That's beautiful. No. It's so beautiful. Well, let me
as you're saying this, it makesme think of an anecdotal story.
When my kids were little theirfavorite word was no.
You're in the throes

Speaker 1 (55:20):
of No. No now.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
They're exercising their free will. We are not
doing that. What does mom anddad do? Oh, okay. Here we go
again.
I guess we're not doing thattoday. So it works and so I have
the same thing. I've got a lotof metal in my body. When I go
to airports, the TSA screeners,you know, you look at these poor
people. They have us bored outof their heads, but they hate me
generally when they see mebecause I'm not going through

(55:43):
your metal detectors.
If I do I'm gonna set it off andI'm not going through your
microwave oven you know the onethat go like this. It's a
microwave the thing that youcook food with it's the exact
same signal. I'm not goingthrough your microwave oven So I
get up there and I I say,listen, can I please have a pat
down instead? And they withgreat privacy, we haven't opt
out in the

Speaker 1 (56:01):
whole Oh, me too. I'm always kind of standing there
and looking around. Everyone'slooking at me like I'm strange.
I love it. I love

Speaker 2 (56:08):
it because you know why I love it because then I
have an opportunity to have aconversation with the CSA people
and I've done this all over theworld and they'll say you know
you got any parts? Why don't yougo through that machine? And it
gives me a chance to explain tothem, do you know what those
frequencies are? Can you tellme? Because I know what they
are.
You know what frequency thatoperates on? And after you have

(56:28):
a conversation with him, youexplain to them, no, I'm not
doing this. I now see otherpeople. It's contagious. We had
a guy we're traveling with toSouth America a month ago.
He said, I didn't know you couldopt out. Yeah, you can. You know
those photographs too? You don'thave to take those. You can opt
out.
So the point is one you'remaking. Right? If we say no, I'm

(56:49):
opting out of your nonsense. Ifenough people do it, your 3% or
whatever, none of this isdoable. Go back to the whole Bud
Light thing.
Enough people said I'm notbuying your Bud Light, but they
had to change direction. So itdoes work, and it is up to us.
It's always been up to us, Seth.And I think you're right. Back
in the days of Babylon, beforethe great flood, people had a

(57:10):
chance.
You know, don't go this way. Andthey did anyway, and what
happened? God flooded the worldand started over. We're at that
precipice again, and we have theopportunity to save ourselves,
and and, god willing, we are.Seth, I we're still here.
Brother, the plan was for us allto be dead. You look at the
DEAGLE report, a 70% reductionin The United States population

(57:32):
by the end of this year. Thatwasn't a forecast. That was a
plan. And yet, we are stillhere.
So I think that's going to whatyour point is is that this time
can be different. And Godwilling, and if people can find
Christ and go back tospirituality, I think we've got
a really good chance of seeingour kids grow into adults and

(57:52):
having grandkids.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Exactly. It's funny because it reminds me of the
masks. And I refused to wear themask. And I remember going into
Whole Foods or grocery stores,and it was actually so simple.
Right?
Because I'd go walk into a WholeFoods, which was, you know, they
had the really strict maskrequirements and everything. And
I'd walk in there. I'd the onlyperson without a mask, and I and
and I'd see I'd see it in thecorner of my eye. Okay. Here
comes the manager.

(58:14):
He's walking up. Yeah. Sir, youneed put a mask on. I look at
him. I go, nope.
And I just keep walking, andthey they wouldn't know what to
do. Like Yeah. It's like theythey weren't used to that. It's
like, how dare you second guessmy power? And I just look at
them, I'd say, nope.
I'm not gonna

Speaker 2 (58:28):
wear one. Love it.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Right? And I continue shopping. I just keep walking,
and they they would never followme. They they didn't know how to
handle it because it's like it'salmost like something kind of
like divine happened at thatmoment where it's like, okay.
Hey, look, you know, Satan, hehe he exercised his free will.
Right? Now granted, you know,there were certain countries
like China and whatever where,you know, they said, okay, we'll
put a black bag over your head.And I think America is is the

(58:52):
vanguard of this this battle inmany ways. Yeah. And that's
that's all it took.
It was so simple. And I'doftentimes smile and say, nope,
and just keep walking. And andI'd see someone else without a
mask, like, we'd see each other,and I'd see their face, they'd
see my face, and we'd have thislike telepathic, like, you know,
kind of fist bump that washappening. I go talk to them
sometimes, and, you know,anyways, like, that's what we

(59:15):
need to do.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
That is your show. That's that connected
consciousness. But you just putit in great words, a telepathic
fist bump. I love it. That'syou, brother.
The leader I of

Speaker 1 (59:26):
guess so. I guess so. Well, Todd, as we're wrapping
up, do you have any kind of lastthoughts to to leave folks with?

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Oh, a plethora. They never end. It's vigilance, Seth.
And, and this is the cool part.Right?
As you're talking aboutabandoning AI and whatnot, you
know, people are actuallygetting this. We're helping
people graduate out of this fulltrust paradigm where anything
official was believed. Nowpeople go, it's official. The

(59:55):
FDA says it'll help you. It'sgoing to kill you.
Right? So now people areactually taking the time to do
the research themselves, andthis is part of that resurgence
about taking our dominion, ourdomain back, and it's happening.
It's contagious. It's beautiful,and it makes me happy because I
see a future, especially when myson's generation are like, I'm
not doing AI. They're actuallyseeing the consequence in the

(01:00:17):
forecast.
I'm really heartened by that.So, I'm chuffed, brother. I
think we're gonna make it, butit takes everybody pulling in
the same direction.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Exactly. Exactly. And I think these conversations help
give people that ammo, thatencouragement, and also that
telepathic fist bump, right? Ithink that's what it is. Think
that

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Love that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
That's why these you know, our interviews oftentimes
go far. Why? Because people,they watch, they listen, and
they're saying, Yeah, like, youknow, you're, you're right with
me. It's like, I think peoplefeel very alone, right? They do
feel very isolated.
And that's, that's a big part ofit. And so when they get that
acknowledgement, they're,they're just like,

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
oh. Validation?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
You're on my team. You're on my team. Actually,
I'll pull something up here justbecause I think I told you about
this. But I told you so so oneof the the projects that I'm
doing, which I'm I'm wassupposed to be launched about a
month ago, but, you know, withmy father being ill and passing
and a few other thingshappening, it kinda slowed
things down. But so, I'mbuilding an online community.
Right? Did did I tell you aboutthis? I think I might have

(01:01:21):
mentioned it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I knew about books, and I knew something about about
this. But please, yeah,

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
sure. Well, it's this this this from this calling to
do it. So actually, we're thethe URL is buildthearc.com, and
I and I think we're launchingwithin the next couple of weeks.
We're at very, very finishingstages. But the idea is is to
take that exact thing.
Right? All those people that,you know, just kind of wore the
mask because no one else was waswas rejecting it. Right? Or
people that felt isolated. It'sso we're I'm building this

(01:01:47):
online community, but it'sreally about building offline
connections, right?
So it's almost like a, it's veryprivate, very secure. It's
almost like a social media typesite, but it's just for the,
it's a private membershipcommunity, just for people that
join, that share our values. Andit's really about this
understanding that it takes usstrengthening the bonds with

(01:02:09):
each other and supporting eachother. That's how we're gonna
accomplish this. And so this,what it is, though, is that
people come, you know, come on,they create a profile, they can
interact.
There's all these differentmessage boards. So a lot of it's
around preparedness. There'sgonna be different kind of
boards. So say you need helpwith your solar setup. You have
questions about canning food.
Oh, cool. There's all kinds ofexperts that are gonna be on
there that can help you withthat. There there's a huge
library we're gonna be buildingout of tutorials, how to

(01:02:32):
training courses. A lot of itreally built upon self reliance.
Right?
So how to off grid your watersystems, how to off grid, you
know, have medicine, how to findnatural medicines, how to, you
know, you know, even the ideathat you can actually use, you
know, fish antibiotics, youknow, in a pinch. If you need to
actually get antibiotics, youcan use a lot of animal related
stuff. Right? And then, so thecommunity, is a lot of it goes

(01:02:55):
up building these offlineconnections. So there's gonna be
chapters.
So, you know, whatever regionyou're in, whether you're in The
United States and you find, oh,it's this is the Northwest
region, or say you're in theIreland region, that there's
gonna be chapters. So you canstart to build these connections
and have local meetups.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Magnets.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
So you can actually meet other people. Because I've
realized is that you and I arejust kind of like in a big blob
of the community that's beingbuilt around these
conversations. And there's a lotof people that are thinking,
gosh, if I could only if I knewmore Todd Callender's locally.
Like, the idea is that this ishow they can find it. Right?
So, anyway, so for people thatare watching, if you if you want

(01:03:33):
to get on the, the kind ofwaiting list, you just go to
buildtheark.com. So it's calledthe ARC community, right? You
say Noah had his ARC, but whatwe're doing is we're building a
collective ARC together tosupport each other. Anyway, so
it's buildthearc.com, and justplug in your name and your email
there. And this is how you can,you know, you can we'll we'll

(01:03:53):
notify people when the communityis open for for joining.
But this is something, again

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Hopefully, within weeks or so, we're gonna have it
launched. All the the back end'salready ready for it. We we've
already been testing it. We'vegot members already that are
kind of the the beta version ofit. Yeah.
There's a whole even there's alittle area for prayer requests.
Right? So say you're you'restruggling and, know, say
you're, you know, having issueswith your with your spouse or
someone's sick, you need a placewhere you can come on and say,

(01:04:17):
look, here's where I'm at. Can Iget some prayers and some
support? There's gonna be thataspect of it too.
So it's really about buildingkind of fellowship and
community. So, you know, I'llmake sure that the URL is in the
description, but it just feltlike it's it felt so natural to
bring that into our discussionbecause that's really what this
is, is we have to kind of buildthese these systems. And
unfortunately, we we, you know,we have to use online for some

(01:04:38):
aspects of it, but the key isusing online to build these
offline relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
I love this. I love your concept. Count me in. I'll
be one of your OGs. Perfect.
It's brilliant. It's absolutelybrilliant. I'd love to be a part
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Well, perfect. Well, Todd, as usual, it's great
talking to you. I always feelgood, you know, kind of coming
out of these conversations. Ifeel like, you know what? There
is hope.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
We've got

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
a way forward. We're still here. And we'll just keep
going.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah, we're gonna keep marching. There isn't any
alternative anyway, so let's bejoyous while we do it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Exactly. Well, Todd, thank you. Take care and God
bless.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
My honor.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
It's great speaking with you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Likewise. God bless you and yours.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Thank you. So I hope you enjoyed the interview. But
I've now got a short fifteenminute interview that's quite
fascinating with a guy named TomSimon, who is former FBI and a
current, financial investorbasically, he's a private
investigator with a focus onfinancial crimes, talking about
what happens when people stealone of your greatest assets that

(01:05:45):
you have. So we'll be detailingthat. Again, it's about fifteen
minutes, so please enjoy thisshort little interview for you.
Tom, Simon, it's great to haveyou as a guest on the show.
Thank you so much for being herewith us today.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
Oh, Seth, thanks so much for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
So you are former FBI, which is I'd be hesitant
about having a current FBIperson on the show, but usually
former, I can I can talk alittle more openly to? But
you're also a privateinvestigator, you know,
specifically focusing onfinancial crimes, which is we'll
get into that. But the one thingthat we're really kinda honing
in on today is literally howsomeone can basically steal your

(01:06:22):
home from you. And, you know,you you were talking before we
started recording about kind ofmore libertarian mindset, and,
you know, I I own my land, andI'm out in the country. And it's
this idea of, like, this is myland, and and I own it.
And this is part of the thefundamental part of what it
means to be an American is theopportunity to even though, you
know, with all the taxation,it's kind of like, do I really
own my land? Am I still rentingit from the government until I
die from taxes? But that's adifferent story. But the idea

(01:06:45):
though that someone canliterally steal your house is
such it's so wild. It's almostdifficult to believe.
But with your background andwith your current work, this is
something that you know all toowell. So why don't you just give
us just a a basic overview ofwhat this is?

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
It is counterintuitive because we all
go home to our house at the endof the day and live there quite
comfortably with the knowledgethat this is our home. You
there's know, a mortgage on it,you said, and there's taxes that
you got to pay, but ultimatelyit's still your home. What the
fact is that someone canactually go to your county
clerk's office, a criminal, andfile a document called a deed.
And then what that deed does isit will transfer ownership of

(01:07:22):
your home from your name intotheir name or the name of
somebody that's working for themas a straw buyer, let's say. And
then they can go out and gethome equity lines of credit or
loans on your home as using itas collateral from banks who
just aren't paying that close ofattention because legally on the
books and the county records,the bad guy is now the owner of

(01:07:44):
your house.
And here's the thing, Seth, youwon't even know this occurred
until months later when theforeclosure notices start
arriving in your mailbox.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
So, basically, let's just say that the guy, Sammy
Smith, is a criminal. Yeah. Ithink oftentimes these guys have
fake IDs. Right? Either them ortheir their their partner.
They're they're working withstolen identities. Maybe they've
even stolen my own identity.Right? But but, basically, what
you're saying is that they haveways of changing the ownership,

(01:08:13):
which is the deed, in within thecounty records. You know, I've
bought and sold homes before.
I know there's a process. Youyou go through a title company,
and they handle all that foryou. But Mhmm. I know that when
when getting a loan with a bank,the bank has to verify with the
county that you own the homethat Right. That you are working
or that you're purchasing thehome that you're getting a loan
on.

(01:08:33):
And there's a lot of duediligence there. And so what
you're saying is that someonecan basically which, I mean, see
it makes sense that it's kind ofarchaic that can they just go to
the county record and file somepaper. You'd think these things
would all be connected, but it'slike if you go to the DMV, you
know that they're still in the1980s and a lot of their
technology. So they can go tothe county play, you know, the
county records, change or changethat record showing that I no

(01:08:57):
longer own own the home thatthey do, or some fake identity
that they that they have takenowns the home. But then they can
use that home as collateral togo take out a $400,000 loan on
the home that I thought that Ithink that I actually still own.
And they take the money and run,and then say three, four, five

(01:09:18):
months down the road, the bank'snot getting payments, obviously.
I didn't get a letter showingthat the bank is foreclosing on
my home, and I'm saying, wait. Ididn't go get a loan with Chase
Bank. My my loan is with, youknow, the local company. Is that
basically how how it works?

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
Yeah. You explained it, Will. I mean, the deed is
the mechanism that transfersownership from one person to
another. It could be a quickclaim deed or a warranty deed,
the title of your house isreally what matters. And that
title, if it's in the name ofyou and someone goes in and
files a quick claim deed in thecounty clerk's office, moving
that into the name of a homelessguy that they just paid $50 to

(01:09:53):
or their own name, for example,they become, as far as the
county clerk is concerned, theowner of record of your home,
and then they can go and getloans on it.
They could sell it out fromunder you. They can do anything.
And I think you touched uponsomething why people are so
skeptical about that this wouldhappen. The problem is, and I
know you have a healthy distrustof the government and I
appreciate that as a formergovernment employee, I do too,

(01:10:15):
but the county clerk's office bystatute is not verifying the
authenticity of these deeds thattransfer ownership. Their job by
statute is to simply recordthose deeds in the public
record.
And so that's the weak link inthe chain. There's no one
watching the store at yourCounty Clerk's office to say
that this deed is legitimate andthis deed is fraudulent. Once

(01:10:36):
they their job is solely totransfer that ownership
according to the documents.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
And so, with your FBI background and with your
current, you know, work as aprivate investigator, how common
is this? Is this something thatyou know, because there's a lot
of threats out there. It's like,someone could kidnap me tomorrow
and and, you know, have a ransomon me. There's a lot of threats,
but then you think, is thatreally gonna happen? You know,
of course, I can get in a caraccident or get struck by
lightning.
I'm still gonna keep going onliving my life. But with this

(01:11:04):
title theft, I mean, big of ahow big of an industry is it and
how common is it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Anecdotally, I can see that it happens a lot
because I do work for a companycalled Home Title Lock. We have
analysts there that send meclippings of news articles and
criminal charges where it'shappening. It's a long list
every single week. The problemis that there's with the
exception of New York andFlorida, there's no crime on the
books anywhere called home titletheft. It's usually charged as

(01:11:31):
in the federal system by themail fraud or the wire fraud
statute.
So I saw it a lot as an FBIagent, but there's no way to
good way to index it. So ithappens a lot. It happens a lot
in like these crazycircumstances with these very
sympathetic victims, but wedon't have good numbers on it.
The other problem is that a lotof the times when someone goes
into their local police stationto say, hey, someone has stolen

(01:11:51):
the title to my home. The policewho are trying to work hard to
keep us safe often tell them,listen, I don't really
understand what you're talkingabout.
It sounds like a civil matter.If you're in a real estate
dispute with someone, go suethem. And then it never even
hits the criminal courts.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I see. Which is kind of crazy because it's like,
let's say, if someone stole my$10,000 tractor, right, and I
went to the local precinct,They'd I'd file a report, and
they would probably, you know,do their due diligence, and
they'd be looking for this, youknow Right. Certain model of
Kubota tractor if they if theysee it. They'd actually work on
finding it. And if they foundit, they would probably

(01:12:26):
prosecute the person who stoleit, and they'd get the tractor
back to me.
I guess seems like a very simplething. Yet, someone could have a
a million dollar home that thishappens with that literally,
like, you know, if someonesteals my tractor, it's like,
I'm gonna be okay. Right? But ifsomeone steals your home, and
all of a sudden, you've gotforeclosure happening on your
home that you live in, and thathome, for a lot of Americans,

(01:12:47):
represents the entirety of yournest egg, you're kind of up the
creek without a paddle, right?

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
It's a problem, right? It's a paper caper, and
oftentimes the police aren'tsuper excited to work those kind
of cases. Whereas like a CPAnerd like me that was hired by
the FBI spent twenty six yearsworking these type of cases. I
like fraud cases. And youpointed out something really
intelligent is that for mostAmericans, myself included, the
equity you have in your home isyour single largest asset.

(01:13:17):
But it's kind of nebulous,right? Because it's an ownership
of a property that you're nottrying to sell that has a value
that you know what the value is,but when someone steals that
from you, it's just verydifficult for law enforcement to
kind of wrap their heads aroundthis and act appropriately. It's
getting better. I mean, we'redoing kind of a public education
campaign going on shows likethis talking about it, But it's,

(01:13:40):
it's still a problem, and peopleneed to keep an eye on their
home title to make sure itdoesn't happen to them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
And so you mentioned New York, this case that just
happened in New York, where the,AG James actually has now
changed this, to make it, youknow, a pro actually, a
prosecutable crime. Right? SoRight. Can you walk us through,
what happened here?

Speaker 5 (01:14:04):
Yeah. There was a realtor in Rockland County, New
York named Oscar Deus. And whathe did is he forged a woman's
name on a deed. Her name wasMonique Hale, the victim,
transferring ownership of thehouse to Oscar's control. And
then he took her house and eventhough she's still living in it
and began monetizing that houseso he could extract the equity
from it using loans and othermeans.

(01:14:25):
But the problem is this happenedin 2021 and it took five years
for a law to pass that wasretroactive that they could
actually charge Oscar with this.The problem, though, is that the
federal I'm sorry. The criminaljustice system is not really set
up to give to undo the damagedone. The the the criminal
courts is not the proper venueto unwind the situation and get

(01:14:48):
that house back into Monique'sname or any victim's name of
home title theft.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
I see. And so what's crazy is that it's saying here,
he was in he was in theDominican Republic, like, at
when this was happening. Right?So the guy who did it, it's it's
like you know, so he doesn't

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
even You can thank COVID for that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah. I guess you're right. Yeah. Actually, that's
true because I'm sure that underCOVID that

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
You would have saw to walk in, present a document with
a notary signature, presentidentification, make it look
real. Now ever since COVID, alot of these counties are
allowing you to file your deedsand transferring ownership of a
home from you to someone elseonline. And so there's not even
anyone watching the store at thecounty clerk's office.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Crazy. And this is I hear it saying actually, this is
just the latest example of, EdG. James taking action. It says
in in August, two people werecharged for stealing the home of
an elderly woman in Queens. InFebruary, there's a charge
against a woman in Queens forstealing the home and funds of
her elderly neighbor.
And and I've seen I've looked atthis too because, when I was
first investigating working withHome Title Lock, I was just,

(01:15:48):
okay. Is this is this real? And,yeah, if you go and you search,
you know, title theft, you cansee there's a bunch of news
coverage. And and almost everytime, it's it's like the
gauntlet of difficulty if theperson ever even recovers those
funds. And that's one of otherquestions that I had for you
with this was that we talkedabout this tractor.
So say I had a tractor that wasstolen. They're gonna work on

(01:16:10):
trying to get you know, if ifthey catch the bad guy, hey. We
found the tractor in his garage,you know, and they're gonna
hopefully get it back to me. AndI know, you know, if cars are
stolen, those cars get partedout and everything, and your
insurance will give youreplacement because that's
that's covered. But do peoplerecover off of this?
Like, if if you if you've, youknow, one day wake up and
there's a foreclosure andsomeone's got a half $1,000,000

(01:16:31):
mortgage on your home, and theythey took that money, and that
money is not even in an Americanbased bank account anymore. What
what

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
The trick is trying to restore the proper ownership
of the home to the victim. Andso there's options for that,
right? A victim can hireattorneys and spend an absolute
fortune getting civil attorneysto kind of make this thing right
and restore that home back intoit. And you mentioned home title
lock, and, you know, I'm aspokesperson for them. They have
a US based restoration teamthat'll do it for you with no

(01:16:59):
out of pocket expenses for hometitle lock subscribers.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
And so it's just it's just kinda wild. But with that
process, right? Because I knowthat, in different interviews I
did on this, they wereexplaining to me how like, let's
just say that person loses theirhome. If they go try to find an
attorney or find someone to helpwith it, well, for one, I think
from what I'm saying, a lot ofattorneys don't even actually

(01:17:24):
understand a lot of the specificmechanisms of how to get this
back. Like, if you go to anattorney and say, hey.
Someone stole my home. They theythey might be they'll they'll
look into it, and they'll dotheir best, but it's not
something like, it's such a whenyou're dealing with, like, this
complex labyrinth of documentsand systems and deeds and
everything, but you're also kindof going between criminal and
civil, it's not easy tonavigate. Right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
That's the thing. Like, real estate attorneys are
very good at what they do. Theyfacilitate the closings on
houses and make sure everythingis squared away with the title
transfer and all that. But whensomething is done fraudulently,
that requires a very specificset of skills that a lot of real
estate attorneys don't have. Soif someone is caught in this
situation, and they need to goout and hire someone to do that,
you want to make sure you hiresomeone who actually knows this

(01:18:08):
process and knows how to unringthe bell rung by the criminal
when they stole your home.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
And so, I want to pull up Home Title Lock's
website. And, so people theweb's URL, just
hometitlelock.com/seth. And, soI know they have this million
dollar triple lock protection.So walk us through what does
Home Title Lock do? Because ifif I if I know correctly, they
don't necessarily go in and,like, kinda put a wall up at

(01:18:34):
every county office, making sureno one can steal your title.
But what they do is that theymonitor that activity so you
catch it at the very inceptionof the theft, and you're then
able to stop it. If so correctme if I'm wrong, but also
explain a little more about whathow they work.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Yeah. Let me walk through that. So it's important
that every single personwatching your show, Seth,
monitors their home title withsome regularity. The problem is
you're gonna drive yourselfcrazy hopping on the county
clerk's website you so can takea look at your home title every
single day to make sure no onehas messed with it, no one has
placed a lien on your house ortransfer title from your name to
the name of some homeless guy.So Home Title Lock is gonna take

(01:19:08):
that off your shoulders.
So the first kind of piece ofthe triple lock protection is
the monitoring. They're gonnamonitor the status of your home
title electronically. The secondpiece is notification. They're
gonna let you know if anythingshould change on your home
title. Sometimes that'sperfectly legitimate.
You go out and get a home equityline of credit because you wanna
build a deck in the back or somekind of loan on your house,

(01:19:29):
that's gonna trip up, that'sgonna create a lien on the
county clerk's website andyou're gonna be notified and you
can tell Hometown a lot, no, no,no, was me. But you wanna be
notified if someone, if a badguy also is doing something to
your house. But the third one,and in my mind, this is the most
important is The US basedrestoration team. Or if the bad
guy is somehow able to transferthat home out of your name into

(01:19:51):
someone else's name and thenbegin getting loans on it, The
US based restoration team fromHometown Aloc is gonna spend a
million bucks in legal fees orwhatever it takes to get that
home back into your name, whichto me is worth its weight in
gold.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
I see. So that that makes sense. That makes sense.
So, okay. So the URL, which andI'll put this up in in the
description for the show.
It's justhometitlelock.com/seth. And if
they use the or if you if youuse a promo code seth, then you
get a free title history reportand a free trial of the triple

(01:20:24):
lock protection. And it's Imean, to me, it's it seems like
it's a I guess people are veryfamiliar with identity theft
protection Yeah. You know,services that you can sign up
for, and they'll notify you ifsomeone uses your Social
Security number to open a creditcard or a line of credit or get
an auto loan. So it's kind of itseems like it's the same
principle, except it just it'sapplied to your home.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Exactly. It's the exact same idea, and God
willing, you'll never need it.Right? But I have a smoke
detector in every room of myhouse and hopefully my house
doesn't catch on fire, but Isleep better knowing that that
smoke detector is there kind oflooking out for me even when I'm
not paying attention to it. It'sone less thing I need to think
about.
I'm a home title lock subscribermyself. Again, my largest asset
is the equity in my house. Icannot afford to have that

(01:21:09):
stolen from me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Makes perfect sense. So, Tom, thank you again, for
giving us your time. Make sure,as I mentioned, that all the
links we talked about are in theshow description. And, it's been
nice talking to you, and I'm I'mstill kind of envious over your
book collection behind you,which is, which is quite
impressive there. So

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
Alright. Well, Seth, it's so great talking to you,
and please let me know if I canever do anything for you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Great. Thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:21:30):
Alright. Take care, buddy.

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