Cracking Midjourney’s Style Explorer + Freepik’s Rise + Higgsfield Prompt Hack

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What's up everybody? Mid Journey Fast Hours podcast
episode 53. I decided to bring Roy Flynn
back for this one. I decided to bring myself back
for this one. I don't know.
We're 53 episodes in for Rockingand rolling.
Now we're going to talk about Mid Journey today.
We've got office hours notes, a lot of interesting, real big
updates coming down the pipeline.
Then I think we're going to kindof get into style Explorer a

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little bit further, kind of go into some of the other things
that Mid Journey is doing for the rest of the year before we
get into sort of, you know, the big picture and landscape of
everything else that's happeningas well.
How's that sound, Rory? Sounds pretty good, man.
You know, another week, another another, like ton of drops and a
ton of things to keep up with. And if you can't tell, I got

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bags under my eyes and my hair is getting grayer and it's just
hey, we just this is the this isthe.
You can't tell. You can't tell with this angle,
man. I think whatever angle you're
sitting. There shine, little Sheen again,
getting real grey. My mom told me I looked like
Pepe Le Pew the other day. I got a white streak down my
hair. I was like, thanks mom.
I was, I mean. Damn I had to had to throw it
back. I'm like, how does that make you

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feel though? I know, right?
My mom's done that before too. I'm like, what are you?
What are you poking the bear forright now?
Yeah, like, I get it. Like, you know, I was like,
yeah, every once in a while my mom will, you know, feel like
got to keep my mom on it. My mom is definitely like likes
to knock me down a peg. So like, that's, that's cool.
But then I, you know, she doesn't know that.
She taught me that too. So whenever she's like feeling

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herself or whatever, I'm like, Ihave great chest hair.
What do you think about that? It's.
Like, that's like, yeah, how do you feel?
And she's probably like, have you seen my chest hair?
Yeah. So what's what's my age again?
You know, start throwing out blink 182 lyrics on that.
But did it's it's that's what parents are good for, you know,
going to keep keep everyone in on down a peg, make sure that no

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one gets egos get too high that one feels himself a little bit
too much. But yeah, dude, it's you know
what I also love this time of year.
It's like, I think underrated before going, you know, with our
classic pop culture talk. I love Halloween television.
So like to me, I am a big fan about I love Hocus Pocus.

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We'll watch it at least once a year.
I. Mean every.
Yeah. Yeah, Hotel Transylvania on the
animated side, one of my favorites.
I also go with any of the any ofthe classic like 80s horror
movies done easy give. Me one, you got one of.
Mine. Friday the 13th.
Freddy Krueger. Yeah, Anything That's yeah.

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Halloween. I'll go, I'll go.
I'll watch some Scream. I'll also watch Scary Movie,
probably during the sun, yeah. Did you see that in theaters?
Screens. Oh, yeah, yeah, That was a, that
was a we all, you know, then everyone had, it was like that
was like everyone's Halloween costume when we were like, I
don't know, 9-10. Yeah, I had that boy.

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It had It's time for sure. Yeah, I mean, I'm, and then, you
know, of course, because I'm a, I'm a Stranger Things nerd.
I always, I always throw first season of Stranger Things on to
around Halloween it feels like. Oh wow.
OK. Yeah, yeah, I like, I like that
show a lot for the Halloween vibes.
Underrated actor going back to scream Matthew.

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Which one? Yeah, was also was also, what's
his name, Shaggy in the scooby-doo movies.
I thought that was a perfect fit.
I didn't. See those?
I did not see those, but you know they're coming out with a
scream next year. Scream 7 Or they didn't even
know there were other screams outside of three.
I didn't even, I, I didn't know they even went for dipping back

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in. I mean, I guess everything's
2000s again, right? Like we're we're all like seeing
like a new trend. I mean, at least for until sort
of AI wiggles its way into the film process and they start
saving costs again. Because I think the whole reason
they're doing that, at least from like, the things that I've
watched, is basically less creative risk and less financial

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risk. Because for a while, they were
banking on all these DVD sales, right, of these movies.
It was almost like a second phase of income and revenue for
these movies. And when the DVD thing went
away, you know, that was a big problem.
And so they stopped taking thesehuge, huge budgets, and they
started doing all these safe things, you know, things that

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were the sequels, the prequels, the trilogy, you know, like all
that. Stuff.
Because you've already got an established, you know, fan base,
so to speak, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And that's, that's been nice. But man, we've missed out on so
many, you know, just all those comedies that, you know, you
don't get anymore, all the original sort of like movies

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that are just a little bit different in the 80s, nineties,
you know, that they just don't make, you know.
So maybe we get some of that back.
Matthew Lillard, though, I don'tknow why I didn't, I didn't come
into this podcast thinking aboutMatthew Lillard, but that dude,
that dude's great. You know what other movie he's
really good in is Summer Catch. Summer catch for.

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Summer catch Freddie. Prince, Junior, Freddie.
Prince Junior. Oh yeah, the picture.
I was actually thinking about that the other day.
Lillard's the catcher. Dude, I was wanting to go to
that. I always want to go to Summer
League Baseball up there becauseI always thought that was like a
really cool sort of like environment to go watch Jessica
Biel. What happened looking?
Like a looking like a snack in that movie.

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Yeah, there was. Yeah.
Then, Oh, not to mention, I got to watch Blade during this time
of year, too. All the Blade.
Blade's a great one. Blade.
Oh my God. Blade is a great one dude.
That was great first movie my dad took me to see that when I
was like 6 or 7 and that first my dad took.
Me to see two scenes. I was like, whoa, this is like.

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Darude Sandstorm baby. Yes, that opening scene is epic.
It's it's can't do that with AI right now.
That's that's too good. That's too good, but dude, not
to see I get I get all nostalgicfor Halloween.
I love Halloween, super fun, everything that it like all

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comes back and then like I go back to reality after October
30. First, are are you taking Faye
out for Halloween this year? Yes, We had to go out of the
city, though, go to grandma's house so that we can actually
have like, there you go, suburban neighborhood type
Halloween. Nice.
Yeah. There you go, man.
There you go. Yeah.
Because you guys, do you guys domatching costumes for the Twins

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or do you do different costumes?I mean, we'll do, we'll, we'll
let them do whatever they want. But I mean, they did.
Now they're they just picked thesame thing.
So now they're both being Elsa, you know, from Frozen.
They did that last year. So.
OK. We're repeating already.
You like what you like, I guess.Yeah, don't go with what works.
Both works. Go with what works.

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But yeah, dude, I'm you know, I this is also from a pivoting
towards AI. This is also like, I like
generating around this time of year for some reason.
It's just, it's just more fun. This is when your Homesteader
prompts start hitting Nightmare fuel.
Just put it in there. You ever notice that it's like a
winter? I'm doing like winter stuff.
And then like fall, I'm like, oh, it's like, you know, the

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leaves are coming off. You want to have like that
little bit of like a darker environment.
The trees are either bare or gotthe, you know, the fall leaves.
And it's just like, OK, maybe things are a little bit wet, a
little bit more gloomy. That's just what it is up here.
So I sort of find myself prompting in that direction a
lot of times. It just feels like that's what's
going on around on me, but I, I always end up with some really
good stuff this time of year. So I I like, I like where my

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where my play time on AI goes. Yeah man, around this time, but
me too. Me too.
Let's well, let's get into it man, let's get into the mid
journey stuff. Right, like offs hours, notes.
We did. Were you on offs hours this week
or no? Yes, like for a little bit of
some of it. I always I always seem to miss
like the David updates part and end up when people are asking

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questions in there. But definitely heard some things
picked up on a few things. But if you go through this, I'm
interested to see what I miss. Now get the live.
Yeah, I, I, I didn't, I didn't catch this one, but I was just
kind of putting this in before we hopped on here.
I think there are some really I mean there there's nothing like
surprising, surprising new from the last time, but I think like

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there's some really interesting reiterations, right?
So like we've all heard about VA, we were talking about like
how they seem really excited about that.
This was interesting, right? So got everything better is the
goal quality coherence, prompt following resolution,
aesthetics, not just one area framed as a true game changer.
So, you know, that sort of confirms the excitement there.

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We also talked last time about, hey, are they going to just
maybe skip 7.1? And it sounds like they're on
the fence about that. So they're only contingent is a
if we have something worth shipping, that's a big feature.
Yeah, we'll do A71, but we're not necessarily tied to it.
We don't even know if we're going to do it.
So that's what they're talking about there.
If it's if it's not substantial enough, they're going to skip

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it. Go straight to the.
Do you remember them saying anything like as like, you know,
framed as a true game changer for version 7?
Do you remember anything like that?
No, no, they no, they didn't, they didn't do that.
So this, I mean, maybe if maybe that's draft mode.
I can't remember how they were talking about the draft mode
because that was such a sort of like a new way to prompt in a

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sense, right? Like you could use voice, you
could iterate very quickly. I don't know how many people are
actually using that. And I don't even know that
that's a bad feature in any way.It's just like, I don't know,
are you using that? Are you using like the draft or
the voice mode in any way? I'm not really using it.
I would use draft way more consistently if I could use

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permutations in it. That's like the one thing that I
don't find to be useful. I mean, I do use.
Yeah. So you can't use permutations in
there that would make. Sense I don't think so that's.
Probably why I've never been been.
Let's see, red, yellow, green. I'm doing it right now to see if

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that's changed. Oh, you can.
All right. Well, I I take that back because
I feel like you used to not be able to use permutations.
Or was it run or is it repeat that I can't use are fine.
Maybe it's maybe. It's can all right.
No, no that both those work. So I just haven't.
I stopped using it because of that.
But if, if anybody here is usingdraft mode, would love to hear

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what you're using it for, how often you're using it.
Like if, if you really feel likehow, how much beneficial values
there. I'm, I'm genuinely curious
because I have not really adopted that feature into
anything that I'm doing. I would say for in large part
man, I'm, I'm pretty much using,well, I use permutations

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basically on everything I promptand the most common permutations
I'm using are Exp and maybe chaos, you know, here and there.
That's it. That's really it.
Yeah, I've kept chaos pretty much stagnant at 5 to 7 range
for the longest time. I don't know if I just haven't

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changed it a lot that much. The I do the permutations now
along with just style codes, so I can just like, you know, I'm
going through like the go to thestyle explorer just hitting like
copy, paste, copy, paste, copy, you know, or add style code, add
style code. Yeah, they just run everything
all at once. But yeah, I know you can do the,
the try this, but it's not, you know, one thing, one thing that

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I find I don't know if you've done this with the style
explorer. When you're when you're doing
it, it's like you just scrollingthrough and you hit try, you
know, you hit try this style andit automatically does whatever
the first prompt is. But if it has a style code
already attached to it, it'll like it attaches it.
So it's two style codes. So you don't really get to just
use it. You know what I mean?
Kind of got to kind of got to have like blank, you know, blank

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prompt without an SRF code and then just hit try.
It's skull perfect for Halloween.
I'll, I'll load this one up. So we have so we have that if we
if we see anything worth trying here.
Yeah. Yeah, man, that's, that's
interesting. It's like, see if you hit try

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style for you, if you go to yourcreate page, does it?
Is it stacking those with the OK?
Why is did you have a style codeon the original one with that?
Why the hell is it not? Why is it doing that for me
then? So annoying.
Like you're only having. Well, it's.
Just. Like the style code for you?

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See what I'm saying? What do you mean I'm not?
I'm not sure. All right, so.
So basically all all I all I didwas like I cleared this out so
this one now has everything in there.
Yeah. Right.
But when I hit the first one, I I guess it it long, you know it
was long enough since I created my last prompt or whatever, it
didn't bring the last thing I had in here.

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So I just typed that in real quick and then.
Hold on my DN. Code in there.
Is this just being crazy? Let me use this prompt.
Hold on. I got to see if I'm I got to see
if this is just something that that was happening as a glitch
or if this happens all the time.Now I'll do this right?
I have an S ref code attached tomy image to begin with.

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Now I'm just going to go to the style explorer and then I'm
going to hit try style. Let's see.
All right, well now, OK, I don'tknow why I was doing this
yesterday then it was just like if I had a style code attached,
it was just like automatically adding it, which which is a

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second one. So it'd be like a blend of the
two instead of the one that I was trying.
Who knows? Sometimes, Sometimes we're.
Just. Just a little glitchy, no?
Regardless, Style Explorer. What about?
Super fun. Do you want to?
Do you want to while, while we're with Style Explorer, do
you want to go into that a little bit?

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Because we were talking, you know, we've talked a few times
about, right, Like first you have the ability to do the smart
search thing. We've talked about that a bunch,
right? Where it's like, OK, let me
create a style. You know, I can go in here.
Not only do you have sort of like images, but you have like
style. So there's, you know, one way to
explore. You've also got obviously what's

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here, you know, by looking at random hot or top day or styles
that you'd like. So you've got that.
We did talk about the search bara little bit in terms of like
more basic, you know, queries that you can type in here,
right? So if you've got a certain
color, right, you can pop that in.
If you've got a certain style, you know, like you can pop that

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in. But I think you were going a
little bit deeper on that, you know.
So tell me a little bit more about what you were doing lately
with that. I'm curious.
I was using like token approach like in that sense.
So like you're naturally insteadof just doing like the category
of like I did, yeah. You want to share your screen.

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Let's do it. Share.
Yeah, I'll let you. I'll let you take over here.
Yeah, I think this is interesting too, because, you
know, I don't that deeper token approach wasn't available at
least at 1st. And now what you're saying is
like, we can get very, very specific now.
And so I think you were playing around with the idea that, hey,

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look like if I've got a certain token in mind, right, I can, I
can actually filter through that.
Yeah, so like with this, right, I just type in photography,
right? Pretty much brings up the same
whatever you'd expect. But then there's sometimes I'm
doing things like precision photography and I'm getting like
way cooler stuff, right? Like this is obviously you're

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getting some really cool type looks.
I mean photography, precision, you know, cinema, there's like
there's. So this is interesting.
This one didn't come up the sameway that it was yesterday.
But like, regardless, I've been doing things like, you know,
like. Polaroid.

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You could type in Polaroid. Or, you know, actually I was
doing something. Polaroid the other.
Day because I was looking for I was looking for sticker styles.
Uh huh. So I was just using like 3D
sticker or sticker. Yeah, pulling up sticker styles
there. It's pretty, pretty good.
Why I was doing a lot of texture, so it was like, you
know, you know, grainy deep texture and it would bring this

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up if this is going to load for me while we're on the so like.
Oh yeah. I mean, that's, that's pretty
specific, you know? Yeah.
So there was, you know, I was doing things like that.
I was doing like shift, like shift focus, things like that
where I was like like a little bit like more beyond than just
color. Because then I would also put in

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things like, you know, like vivid or, you know, hazy or
things like that. So let's see like vivid and then
sharp, right? Like doing doing things like
that where you get like some some really interesting sort of
almost like you're trying to figure out like blends, if that

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makes sense. So like, yeah, like that
precision contrast, right? Like the I was doing things like
that with tokens and I was actually finding some really
cool ones that I hadn't come across before.
So like it's awesome getting like the mat stuff, right?
Like this is, it's cool, but then you know, I might find

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something like this which is like what I'm looking for or.
Yeah, very specific. Now you know, I think that's,
that's the interesting thing is the specificity with the search
tool wasn't wasn't there. Now you got it.
So there's like, you know, like soft, like soft rippled texture,

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but you can get you can get likepretty specific, almost like if
you're searching for tokens, which I was like sick.
I really like this because then you can even go into like, you
know, like 3D or more so like, yeah, like this.
It's almost like kind of what I'm looking for, like right off
the bat, you know what I mean? Like that's this is cool or

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something like this. I love that.
Like so I was just is like a different way to approach it.
I got I've put full prompts in here before and it's like, OK,
that's cool that that can kind of work.
But just trying to find like different ways to to search in
here. And I mean, like, you know,
sometimes I type in like music and you might get something
cool. Yeah.
I know. You like album cover, right?

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Like like album cover instead ofit just being like photography
cinematic colors like this one, you know, I might not ever
search for something like that. So it's like the same, it's like
the same style, like token approach, right.
Like this is cool. Like I don't even know what to
to, you know, to to search for in that.

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I might try that one. That's kind of dope.
Yeah, right, right. Like like these are or like,
let's just suppose the other one.
I was doing like mixed media poster, something like that.
So it's, it's just something that I I don't know, I'm sure a
lot of people have looked at this and been like, yeah, let me
just do that. But I, I don't know if I was

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thinking about it this deep of like how good the search would
actually be and like where you could where you could find this
stuff. But I.
Think this is I mean, this is this is the other power of of
mid journey is just the curationacross the board of of those key
things, right, of styles of images of videos now and then

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just search across the board, right.
Like, I mean, this is this is a an inspiration place as much as
it is a place to to create in all these different ways.
And so I think like to mid journeys credit like things like
this are able to keep you in tool and on task for whatever
you're trying to do. You don't have to hop around,
which I've always enjoyed about that, right?

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Like the style reference piece, I mean.
The fact that you have all theseat your fingertips that that
seems to not be the case anywhere else.
So you don't really have all access to all these different
styles on demand just by througha a simple search, right?
So I mean, if you've got projects or certain looks that
you're going for anything, you know, whether it's

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professionally or personally, I mean it's all right here.
This is like. Fisheye lens, right?
Like could be a very specific, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like this is, this is likeeveryone else who has presets.
This is just, there's a billion presets, a billion maybe like I
was again, like Y2K, like that'sbringing up stuff that looks
just like that, you know, like this is, this is cool.

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Like I want to try all this stuff.
Like 33D, like type in 3D clay or like there's like all those
stitch, you know, stitch would be probably a good, good one.
Like 3D like 3D clay Yep, this could be, you know, 3D, you

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know, say 3D mud. Let's see if that brings
anything up like all right, so 3D mud.
See what I mean? This is like, I wasn't going.
Draft drafting. You type in drafting, you get
all the technical drafting styles.
I mean, yeah, it's sick. Drafting, you know like Riso

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graph, Riso graph 3D interface. Let's just see how you know,
this kind of stuff works 'cause it to me it's like all right,
cool, this is you can start up. It's like almost like you're
black, you're looking for a specific one style, but then you
can also blend it with a contrasting idea, right?

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Like you know future photographyinterface, right?
Like we can do. That and if you're, and if
you're like a small or an emerging brand, even like this,
I mean, this could be a great way to source yeah.
You know, your, your style, yourunique style, you know, like
you, you could combine multiple styles together and create

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something that's completely unique.
You could take one style in hereit with varying weights you know
and find something that's unique.
You know, this is just. A bowling ground for those
larger profiles or even just campaign specific things too.
I mean, if you got a particular campaign that you're doing
that's short term, this would begreat for that.

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I got to I want to save this one.
I like this feature photography interface.
This is a good this is a good find here.
So yeah, like mixing and blending styles, like things
that might not make sense. Like I've also tried like, you
know, like creature and creatureand like creature horror and you

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know, like film that you can do,you can get to a certain point
like this isn't doing this isn'tdoing that much film, but then,
you know, creature horror. Yeah, like that's a great that,
that'd be a great way. If you're going to do something
for Halloween, you could type in.
You could use that. You could type in Halloween.
You could type in. Yeah, Halloween is probably a

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good one. Like this is this is sort of
what I'm looking for, right? Like this is, it's so
interesting how far you can go and wait.
Tech isometric biology, you know, it's like I'm prompting,

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but I'm looking for styles at the same time.
You know, it's it's cool. I like, I like a lot of this
stuff. And this is, again, if people
have already been doing this andthis is like, you know, you guys
are like, yeah, whatever, dude, we've been doing this forever.
I, I just, I don't know why I haven't thought about it that
way before. So sorry.
No, man, I, I mean, I don't think anybody, I mean, I think

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people maybe been using the search maybe.
But I think that the fact that you're now thinking about this
from like a, a token perspectiveis a little bit of a novel way
to think about it, coupled with the fact that this wasn't, you
couldn't do that two or three weeks ago, I don't think.
I think they've been kind of slowly dropping more styles and
then expanding the ability to connect like these searches or

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these queries to the appropriatestyle.
So this is definitely a credit to Midger.
And I think this is like one of those things that I don't know
how big of a lift it was for them, but like, this is a big,
you know, little, this is a big little addition from a UX
perspective of just like being in the tool and enjoying what
you're doing and keeping people here.

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Yeah, yeah, I think I totally think so.
And I I maybe I wasn't as inspired by it until this week
when I was like, let me just go.Like I was a little bit bored on
what I was creating and I was like, let's just go see what
this style explorer is like. Really got like I'd, I'd been
doing like the surface level stuff, you know, like like

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photography and like, you know, photography and pink and soft.
Do me, do me, do me a favor. Type in, type in Where's Waldo
there 'cause I found this style code the other day.
It's like basically a Where's Waldo?
One I. Get that?
All right, sick. Let's let's see if they have

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something like killer acid. Yeah, All right, this is cool.
You know, black light, like techblack light interface.
See, see, this is I I spent likeprobably 30 minutes doing this

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the other night and I was just like, huh, OK, let's just see
matrix. I'm sure they have that too.
Yep cool. All right, love that like this
is This is why this is now. The coherence with the search on
these is is definitely different.

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Because I wonder how they tag. This for and if you play with
style codes at all or have any interest in it whatsoever.
Yeah, I know people do. This is why it's like you can
get this. It's never ending.
This is the it's. Never ending.
To me, this is like my new my new like mid journey obsession
now that I was doing it and now it's so you know, everyone,

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sorry for the detour there on onjust going down that rabbit
hole, but I think that one's been to me my favorite thing of
the last probably like two or three weeks I've been doing on
there just like fun like that. That's that's now like a if I
was thinking about something forthe social platform too, right.

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Maybe it's like a like a curated.
It's like a like a favorites, but like style, like curation
style, something like that. You know, it's like style codes
that you can like attach or likeor just like list somewhere or
like add them to add them to. I don't know, you know what I'm
saying though, Just like here's here's like the ones that I
really like or whatnot. You can just like upload them

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into some space, some something like that.
I'm talking out of my butt, but that's just, you know, no.
That's, I mean, but yeah, I mean, you know, that's the thing
too is like once you've liked enough of them too, it's just
that infinite scroll again. So it's like the, the, the, the

(27:57):
categorization of the styles that you like.
That's cool. But then also, it's like, all
right, I think I've liked enoughnow where it's hard to find the
one I'm looking for again, you know?
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, you need like a
favorites within the favorites. But yeah, man, I mean, so you
know, going back to, you know, other updates, I mean like that,
that's something that's interesting.

(28:18):
I mean, they they talked about the style creator eventually.
I think that's probably something that's going to be V8.
But the other big update for youguys is this talk of new UI.
So they brought this up a few times but but didn't really
elaborate on it before. But there's some really

(28:40):
interesting things here. So new UI to craft styles
without words. Enable simple prompts with
precise aesthetic control. Algorithm feels strong.
Main work is nailing an integrated sleek UI.
Expect this to be a new paradigmPreview making images with
minimal text plus rich visual control.
So this kind of goes back to what we talked about long ago,

(29:01):
which is like this idea of like prompting is always evolving,
It's always changing. It used to be this thing where
we all started with an empty boxand had to pull words out of our
ass. And maybe we had the vocabulary,
maybe we didn't, maybe we had saved folders with words and
blah, blah, blah. Robbie Sabi.
Oh, I love me some wabi sabi. But it's like, you know,
prompting has changed and it's gotten away from you having to

(29:24):
just operate within this empty box and come up with things on
the fly because there there is abarrier there.
And now, you know, again, just more confirmation that what
prompting is with creating greatimages is changing.
And it's requiring less effort in terms of, you know, building
the right prompt and thinking about things comprehensively and

(29:46):
there being so much Gray area between what's a good prompt and
what's not. And, you know, I think one of
the great ways that we've sort of hacked that a long time ago
was not only did we go down the vocabulary route, but we also
had like GPTS. And I still, I, I use mine every
day where it's just like I'm plugging an image in and now I
can get a, you know, exactly what I want in my prompt

(30:09):
structure that I want. And I'm not having to think too
hard about it, right? Yeah, because then I can take
that, I can run Exp on it with, with parameters.
I can run a little bit of chaos with parameters.
And, you know, now I've created,you know, 20 plus images that I
can kind of go through and I'm probably going to find something
that I really like in there, right?
It's just like that alone is a totally different experience

(30:33):
than what we've had to deal within the past.
And, you know, so this is going to continue to get easier.
But the UI part of it is interesting, right?
We we've talked about this before too, Rory, but it was
like the idea that there's almost so many features now that
even if you use this daily, you forget to use stuff.
You don't use stuff, you know, like I, I don't know if you're

(30:55):
using weird anymore. I haven't used weird in a long
time. I haven't used remix in a long
time. I know you're big on, but it's
like we all have our, we all have our own things that we just
don't use. And it's not because they're not
great features because like either UI doesn't present them
in a way where it feels like it's, you know, at my fingertips
or I just forget about it because maybe it's hidden,
right. So like this whole UI thing I

(31:17):
think is needed. That said, that's going to, you
know, that's going to be a little bit of a a learning curve
for folks because we haven't hada new eye with mid journey ever.
The only thing we've been dealing with is this new website
when it came over, which seems like forever ago now.
And then since then, just kind of like piece mealing, you know,
these small additions or tweaks one by one, right.

(31:39):
So it's like, OK, well, this is now over on the left side or
this is up at the top or we got to now click here or this is now
renamed this. But we haven't had to like
really shift how we operate within that space.
And I think that's coming, it sounds like.
And that's that's coming. I don't know how soon big
gradual resign over the next 12 months.
So it's not happening tomorrow. It's not happening at the end of

(31:59):
the year, but it is going to happen.
So something to keep an eye on. Definitely some things that you
get rid of. I mean, you know, there's no
need for. I don't think it's, it's still
even in there. It's like pan.
Still in there? Like it's not PAN or Pam
situation. You don't even.
You don't. You don't even need zoom.
You don't even need zoom out anymore because you've got the

(32:20):
scale right. Yeah, there's we have edit
image. I mean, all those things are
good like that, doesn't you know, it's like there's so much
now, which I don't, I don't hate.
It's just that it's now it probably does need like a
rethought, like a rethink on some of it.
But the other thing is I'm like,I hate all the, this is just me.

(32:44):
I like an interface like this for like creating images.
Like I don't want to talk in chat.
I don't want to talk in chat to that.
Yeah, I don't want to chat with it.
Some people might. I don't.
I like, I like the options of for images and like push some
buttons, not like, do this, OK, now do this.
And then like scrolling back through all that stuff.

(33:04):
Like Reeve to me. I like the I like what Reeve's
done, but their new interface tome is worse than their old one.
Like it's cool what you can do, but I still like I wish there
was like a legacy switch. I kind of how runway has like
you can do chat, but you can also do it like the old way in
like the actual feels like a production interface versus like

(33:25):
I'm. With you, dude, I'm with you.
I am. So I'm so glad you said that
because I feel the same way about it.
There's something about the current interface that I really,
really do enjoy. It is an enjoyable experience.
Yeah. And it doesn't feel like work.
And I think like when you iterate, even if it's just

(33:46):
simple iteration with an LLM, itstill feels like you're pouring
energy into it. Whereas if I'm just prompting,
I, I, I don't feel like I'm it, it doesn't, it doesn't expend me
in any way, right? It doesn't feel tiresome to do
it generally speaking. I mean, maybe that's just
because we've been using it so much, but.

(34:06):
I'm just looking, am I asking, am I asking the question the
right way? Like I don't want to think about
that. I just want to like.
There you go. You know.
What I mean, yeah. That's, that's, that's, I think
exactly what I was thinking is just like that additional layer
of thinking about the context that's in your head and
translating that the right way is, is enough energy expenditure

(34:26):
for me to not enjoy it as much. Yeah, because it's like, are you
going to understand what I'm saying in the context of what
I'm saying to like actually get me the right answer?
And like if I leave something out, it's like, sorry, I didn't
like be Uber detailed on this one little micro piece, but
rather just write it myself, right?
You know, So that's, it's just like I've seen a lot of people

(34:47):
move towards this chat functionality.
And I think it's also, it opens up too many possibilities that
you don't actually like, like you end up doing less because
you have so many options. Yeah, yeah.
So I said about a left last week, right?
It was like if if you if it can do anything, then it's like I'll
probably just end up removing backgrounds and changing shirt

(35:10):
colors. You know, it's like if you build
like little micro tools within like a left, which what they
did, it's like, oh, this one's for green screening, This one's
for this, this one's for this. Like, OK, now I know what to
use. I'll just go do that, right.
Instead of just like that is the.
That is the hardest part, right?It's just like even even even.
You and I are in this every day.And if you were to ask me

(35:31):
something based on recall of allthe different things anything
can do, I'm going to forget 7580% of the use cases because
maybe I don't use those every day or I'm just not thinking
about it, or it's not a challenge I've run into
recently. And that's for people like you
and me that have been in this stuff all the time, let alone

(35:52):
people that just have, no, they're just getting started.
They don't even know what's possible, right?
And so like, yeah, I mean that that sort of like modular
breakdown of just maybe individual things that can be
done has to almost be like laid out pretty obviously to be
effective, especially as it kindof passes the torch too from
this tech getting into like first mover hands to like the

(36:14):
general majority so. That's.
True that is that's a that's a great point.
I don't know. Do you have anything else on
that or do you want to kind of talk to about this?
Sort of like this was the other piece of it that caught my eye,
which. Is that's that's the one.
Yeah, let's let's talk about that because so you got to.
Be editing and creative featurespipeline.

(36:37):
It's let's hope I want it. Me too.
It's better a better image editing edit model types in
progress. Don't know much more than that.
Is this, you know, natural language, you know, A to B sort
of, you know, type thing like nano bananas where you can like

(36:57):
just simply and straightforward say what you want or make a
quick change kind of thing. I mean, mid journey always does
some something that's completelyunique and and different, which
I I appreciate and I love. But that edit model thing, I
think is interesting, stronger multi image reference workflows.

(37:18):
That's that's very, very interesting.
And then ongoing work on higher res quality, coherence,
aesthetics profile. But I think like the fact that
the thing about this in terms oflike a pipeline now in a system
in a process is something that mid journey hasn't really done

(37:39):
much at least said obviously that they're focused on it,
maybe with the exception of thatworld building thing that they
they launched last year. Whatever that was.
You know, but, but outside of that, like I, I, I haven't heard
them talk about sort of like creating things in a way that

(37:59):
feels like a, an assembly line or production or workflow or
pipeline or process or. System.
You know. Well, this is to me, what is it
that they need this? Like you just, you need this.
We talked about it last week. It's just like at this point,
everyone's got it. They need their own version if
we want to stay consistent and use the characters and like

(38:20):
build worlds. And I think that's always been
sort of the goal, right? They've set in world building.
We we need to have consistency and it needs to be easier for
the common person. Do you?
Think mid journey is in the office, like when they see
something like nano banana, for example, where it's like the
ability to like quickly change something or add or subtract or
and there's like, damn, well nowwe can't do exactly that, but we

(38:44):
got to find a way to do that without doing that.
You know what I mean? They've had the the luxury of
being ahead on most of this stuff for a long time.
You know, like style reference. They were ahead on that.
Like personalization, a lot personalization, a lot of this
stuff. I think I think this stuff
because it just seems so naturally easy to the user now

(39:06):
where it's like, OK, I like this.
This should be something that's on our platform right, because
it's just it's nano made it so easy see that it makes it easy.
Reeve has their model now ChatGPT has a similar
functionality like flux context has it like runway references
has it like it. It's not just like to like keep

(39:28):
up like with with that sort of order, like almost like a peas,
because I like the like, if they're going to go like that
ingredients sort of direction where it's like, you know,
there's character, object environment, put it together.
Like I like that sort of idea too, because that's that's
definitely something that's not as easy with those tools like

(39:50):
nano and see that it's like keeping that stuff consistent
when it's like, I want to put this thing in this environment
and this person doing this thingand it's like somewhere you
lose, you lose coherence and like one of those ingredients
isn't right, you know, but most of the time you just got to do
it in steps first, trying to addit all in there at one time.

(40:10):
Regardless. I think that would be if they
nailed that down. Awesome.
And we can, we can keep moving because the other kind of
journey. I'd love to.
I'd love to stay in mid journey for stuff like that.
Kind of. That'd be amazing because
there's intricate stuff that youcreate on here that you can't do
in Nano. Like it'll do something, but

(40:31):
it's not going to do it all. I'll quickly remind you too,
like any anytime I have to use another tool like a Firefly or
even image Gen. which has gottengood.
But it's just you do you put that same prompt in a mid
journey or somewhere prompt? I mean, it is just you're just
like, oh man, there's still no comparison here.

(40:52):
There's literally still no comparison here.
It's and you you can you can recognize it if you just do if
you just do a really short prompt like photo of a sports
car you go to mid journey, you see what it pumps out.
Then you go to like every other model and see sort of like the
generic looking stuff that it posts like you know that being

(41:12):
said, the more detailed you go with something like image and
it's super coherent, then it'll give you something like awesome.
But you have to get there first.Yeah, you have to like, get to
that point. But you know, then you're using
LLMS or you're typing a full paragraph prompt, right?
That's sort of like the idea, but Yep.
They they did mention too, they're going to try to get back

(41:35):
to this release cadence. Shipping updates weekly.
It was cool for a while there. It was cool for a while there.
I don't I, I again, I wasn't on this off source.
I don't know if this was talked about when or anything like that
or what specifically they had inmind for that, but that I, I
love to hear that. You've also got, we talked about

(41:56):
the sailboat stuff last time. Vision and resource strategy
broadening from product company,more diverse research lab with
humanistic helpful projects. We'll invest in most resources
into core product while funding high impact initiatives.
Seek 12:50 value per dollar spent, avoiding costly marginal
gains that don't meaningly help users.

(42:17):
Yeah. So just some anecdotes there.
Cryptic. Maybe.
Vague. I don't even.
I don't know what that means, but yeah, still.
Want to know what secret projects are?
Maybe we'll know by the end of the year.
They've been secret for a long time.
I wonder if you actually, like, release them and then they don't
actually, like, tell you that it's them.
It's like secrets been out of the bag and you're like, all

(42:40):
right, you know? That would be crazy.
If they're collabing with other people, they don't seem to care
about PR, so it doesn't really make a difference whether they
get. You know, they, they, they have
though been making some little changes here and there been, you
know, like the sailboat meet up.Yeah.
They posted on LinkedIn like 3 or 4 times in the last week or

(43:02):
two. I'm like yo you guys have posted
there twice all time. Nice.
You know, I think they started aTikTok.
I'm not. On a tik.
T.O.K, but it's I mean, you know, so I mean like they they
are, they are broadening. I think they have to, but I I
love that they're leaning more into the other channels because

(43:23):
they have I feel like they have to and they would be smart, you
know, to to do that. Obviously they like they still
do have a strong community. I think the market share,
though, I mean it's it's a toughfight.
It's a tough fight right now. I mean, mid journey had it on
lock for a long time, you know, in a lot of ways.

(43:44):
And I think like you've you've just seen all these other models
pop up. Some are, you know, just talking
and releasing and, you know, more visible in certain
channels, right. And so I think Mid Journey has
to play that game a little bit. Well, you can tell they're not
marketers, so you know that they're on the developer side
and they're they're on the the tech side, which is what is is.

(44:08):
But if they. But if, but if they want
marketers, I mean we, we're here.
Hey, just. Saying I'm just saying, but
it's. They need to they need to like
under. I mean, they don't need to do
anything, right. Take take what I say with a
grain of salt. It's just like their their
avoidance of business is sort ofI think what let this happen.

(44:30):
I think open the gates for everyone else to be like, we
know that people use this way more for business than they use
it just for personal right. So it's but whatever they can
have their lane, they can be thepersonal tool.
I'm just saying if there was a, if that was a concern, then you
know, and it was a tough. Place to be it's a really tough
place for them to be too, because on one hand right, they

(44:50):
want this to be not super business, right yeah, they're
also not VC funded you know and so you know like as you get more
and more competition and you do think about market share and you
do think about you know, continuing to bring in revenue
and generating, you know revenue.
I mean like you, you are going to come to these sort of fork in

(45:12):
the roads where you are you going to compromise at all or
adapt from maybe the original maybe mission, you know some of
the things that maybe you know like like the API thing right,
like the API thing was never going to happen.
Now it's happening to some degree.
I don't, I don't know where that's at by the way.
You know, they did talk about sort of starting with a small
batch. I don't know if that's already

(45:33):
underway. They haven't really talked about
that lately. So that's maybe something we
could bring up on office hours in the future.
But a lot of people interested in that API though.
A lot of people interested in that API.
I mean, you know, it's just that's just the other thing too,
right? Like if they don't want it to be
business, right, all you have todo is just add this editor.

(45:54):
It like functionality, the same thing that's nano and now it's
business without having to be business, right?
Like I said, so you'll get the residuals for anyone that's
doing the personal stuff, but there will definitely be people
on there for business 'cause I think they mentioned, I don't
know if David mentioned this also, I'm I'm trying to remember

(46:16):
if I'm just making this up in myhead, but he said they were
working on some text stuff as well to make text better for V8.
And I was like, I think that. Sounds right.
I think that maybe sounds right.I can't remember that
specifically or if I've seen it in the notes, but I feel like
that's been said. Yeah, I mean, like, I'm, I'm
ready for that for them, you know, I've been living long

(46:38):
enough without it. It's not, it's not a necessity.
It's just nice to have it, if that makes sense.
Like nice, like pop. Are you using like?
Are you using free pick or? I use it sparingly but I know I
know the the interface and the functionality and the tools.
I think my only issue with it. My only issue with it is a

(47:00):
little clunky on like navigationand finding stuff.
It, it is, it's, there are things here that are really good
and then there are other things that are, I think to your point,
like I don't, I don't like the way that it's currently the
navigational structure and, and sorting through things is, is
set up. I mean, they do have a lot of

(47:22):
these models in here now, which is great, right?
Like you've got nano banana in here.
You got image Gen. 4 in here, Mystics in here, runways in
here, you know, like this stuff makes it really easy, you know
where you can just kind of like,hey, maybe you got a certain
color palette you're going for blah, blah, blah.
Some of this works OK, but I more for the aggregation is

(47:43):
great. They do have let's see if it's
here. Is it here?
See there there it. Is this, this is interesting.
I I've been meaning to like spend more time in here, but
they've got like some really cool things here though, you
know, just workflows, right? So they've got, you know, sample

(48:05):
workflows you can go through like for example, like let's
just click into this. I don't know what this.
Oh, OK, so so it does it for you, right?
Like it's just kind of giving you that structure.
Why? Why chess?
Yeah, I think it's this. Why did it take that?

(48:27):
Wait, hold on, wait, go back, goback to that real quick.
Click on the little button down at the bottom or no back with
the chat interface. See where it says workflows
under in the prompt box. What is is that just OK?
I don't know if it brought you to like a different interface.
I should say it's just a switch through.
OK, so it's just running like multi step workflows?
Yeah, and there was this also this interesting thing here,

(48:49):
like this might be worth exploring from your perspective
too, from the advertising front,but mock up packaging, like
there was even some things in here.
I saw curated collections, maybethis is it.
Matcha drop. Where it felt like, right, Like

(49:10):
essentially the way that I wouldlook at this is these shots are
done if I want to change color, if I want to change texture, if
I want to change skin color, gender, blah, blah, blah, and
apply this to my brand. I don't need to download these
mock up files for Photoshop anymore, right?
Oh no. You know, this is a curated

(49:31):
collection where it's, if I'm a brand overnight, I can just go
in here and quickly update thesethings to my brand.
Yeah. So I like I, I do like that, you
know, they have these things called collections.
They do have the workflow stuff.I again I haven't really like.
Spent Can you use this or like how does this work?

(49:53):
So let's let's see edit with AI.Let's see if we click this
Remove background, adjust settings, open AI Editor.
So resize, restyle, background, upscale it changed.
Is there a way to like upload your logo in here?

(50:16):
Well, so this is what I was likethinking the way that I, I don't
know, the way that I would use this is like almost with the
nano banana thing in mind. Like that's the way I was
thinking about it maybe. That's an.
Easier way to do it, but I was like, you could essentially
download this whole collection and then I could go, I guess 1
by 1. Maybe there's a way to do it in

(50:37):
bulk where I've got my logo, I've got the colors, the hex
codes and boom, you know, like Iguess if there is text.
But I'm just thinking like from like a workflow perspective of
like, that's really interesting if you're able to do that.
Yeah, I, I, I there's a, there'sa product there for sure.

(50:59):
And see, this is what I like, I do with, this is what I like I
do with Weevey. It's just like I this is what
I'm. That's what I'm saying is like,
there's something, there's something there.
I'm just trying to like digest it mentally because I haven't
spent time here, but there's something there that's
interesting that I, I, I want tofigure out 'cause you know, like
from, from your we be perspective or that, that no
base perspective too, right? Like this is essentially like us

(51:21):
coming up with that prompt, thatsystem prompt and the prompt
itself to direct it on the kind of shots we want.
But if we've already got shots that we can interchange with
that are royalty free, we're not, you know, I mean, like,
boom, I can just, you know, we can just use those.
So this could be a good, this could be a good, yeah, it could
be right. But like, this is where it's
like, OK, you know, change this.If this doesn't fit my vibe,

(51:43):
change this desk to a different desk type instead of industrial,
right? This is something else.
So anything is is infinitely interchangeable.
But maybe this is a great place to start, you know?
Interesting. So this is.
So they're all just basically just templates and then you go
and edit the templates like think so provide the templates
for you, OK? At least that's how I'm thinking

(52:05):
about it, right? It's like, OK, like I could just
maybe there are ten shots in there.
I really like, you know, let me apply this to AI.
Don't know. I'm just thinking fishing brand
or whatever comes to mind, right?
And then all of a sudden, boom. Interesting.
Yeah, free pick's always to me. It's like I I would.
I don't even know if I would have seen that age because I.

(52:25):
We we talked about that. Remember, Remember we talked
about this pivot from free pick a long time ago on.
The yeah, we're. Just like I I can't even believe
that that's the same company. And I mean this was this.
Was where you went for little icons and illustrations and you
know, you had to have a monthly subscription under $10 where you
could just grab shit, you know, it's like.

(52:47):
They still have that? Do they have like an icon
generator? Like, I have no idea.
That's great. That's a great question.
All tools. Do others do they have an icon
generator? Image Extender.
They like they have a backgroundremover.
This is like one of those examples where it's just like
this product has changed so muchand it has so many capabilities
to that it probably is not communicated very well to its

(53:08):
general. No, like I'm in here a little
bit, not a lot, but it's just like I didn't I didn't know
about the background remover. Oh, they do have an icon
generator sound effect. There it is, music.
Generator. Yeah.
Clip editor, lip sync, anything.With any AP is in here
basically. Basically.

(53:28):
The there's another one that that I've been using for sound
effects called Morello pretty good.
It's like it's like MMM audio, but pretty pretty decent.
Not going to win you any awards,but it's when you need it in a
pinch. Been pretty good.
It's probably on here now, but there's like this one for like,

(53:50):
you know, again, icons, right, like that's a micro tool to have
here. It's like if you just upload,
you know, if you create an icon then it's like create a whole
set just like push a button This.
This feels a little bit like they're coming for Canva.
Free pick. Yeah, maybe I don't know Canva.
I think they're taking Canva like ideas here.

(54:13):
I think some of this collection stuff is very is very Canva but.
Yes, it is, yeah. And, and you know, Canvas
started, you know, I, I, I actually haven't been in Canva
in a minute, but I'm, I'm imagining, I know they have the
background remover. I have no idea how to do
anything with audio but that a lot of this other stuff is
there. I feel like they've probably got
a lot of stuff in Canada now. I I haven't opened it in a long

(54:34):
time. Curious, curious if, if
listeners like if you're playingwith any of these sort of like
what do you want? What do you want to call these
types of tools? Free pick?
Canva. I mean just like.
Canvas can the image compositors?
I don't know, probably sounds sodumb right now not being able to
come up with a word, but. I mean, but but it is a like,

(54:57):
how does how does how does free pick describe themselves?
Now? I don't know.
I don't even know what do you what do you call them I?
Don't know aggregator like Canada, I call, I call them an
aggregator, right? Like that them Higgs field now
is an aggregator like Korea aggregator.

(55:20):
I'm just looking at Canva AI right now.
I don't know. Again, we're like it's like a
chat functionality. It's like, what do I want to do?
I don't know design. It's like make me a design.
This is so red canvas feels different.
I haven't been here in SO. Long like, what is it like?
They've got interesting. So, so they're like, they've

(55:47):
also got just images like a gallery that you can look at and
recreate from. And I mean, it's just, I don't
know, this whole thing is interesting in terms of like,
I'm trying to digest this. I I get it from their point of
view, but this feels like such ahard thing to market because
it's like the awareness of all these little intricate, little

(56:11):
specific things you can do in here, It starts to get very hard
to explain. Yeah, it does.
That's why, you know, it's, it starts to get really people
start asking questions like, well, you can use this tool for
that or this little micro tool where this one actually is
pretty good for it. And then how do I, how do I have
all this random knowledge in my head about some of the stuff?

(56:31):
Oh, because we've just tested a bunch of bunch of these things
and failed at them. You know what I mean?
Like, and then some of this stuff like I, I don't know, the
aggregator tool, sort of like they all, if you're going to, if
they're going to go that route, right, it has to be all based on
like UXUI and marketing. Like how easy can you make it

(56:54):
for the user to use all these tools?
How clean, how simple? And then how do you just get the
word out? Because you just have to
continue to acquire. You just have to market, market,
market, market because you know,that's, that's basically what
you're doing. You're paying, you know, paying
the margins on the AP is I'm assuming.
And then you have to keep, you have to keep subscription and
and user base up. So I mean, I haven't been on as

(57:18):
do you still have going to Koreareal quick?
I'm just curious to see if they changed their interface
recently. I haven't either and I'm not a
subscriber anymore. Look at that looks way different
than when the last time I was inthere.
Yes it does. Doesn't look as fun as it used
to. It doesn't.

(57:38):
It's like more. Sterile.
Click on the. Click on the photos or the I
just want to see the image imagevideo or no the top navigation
see if that changed like image, video, then there's the enhancer
right? Then the real OK, so God.
You almost you almost forget that they started with real time

(57:58):
man. Yeah.
God. Because I haven't used Korea in
a while, but. Geez.
I still like the tool, but real time was so much fun it.
Really was. Yeah, like I wonder if that's
going to, I wonder if that's going to become more prevalent.
I know there's, there was more, there's a recent update about

(58:19):
Genie 3 or whatever that is fromGoogle that won the like
immersive world one. I think that one was of recent
the last couple days. But yeah, Korea haven't been on
in a while. Higgs field's popping up new
stuff. The Higgs, I think Higgs field,
the whole marketing plan is justlike, it's just rage bait.

(58:40):
Like I think that's the entire marketing strategy is just rage
bait. For sure this was that.
This was that latest thing, thispopcorn thing.
I did see something about it, but I I can't remember exactly
what it was. So this is visual stories with
popcorn. Easily create a storyboard that
lets you plan and visualize youridea before generation.
They're they're taking, they're taking, you know, the AP is and

(59:02):
then they're building workflows right?
Like it's it in the back end andthey're making little micro
tools out of it. And this is all it comes down to
the right, the UXUI. So it's like this is cool.
I haven't used it yet, but I. Haven't either.
Yeah, obviously. You know, I think Higgs Field
realized real early on that it'sjust like their, their video
model wasn't going to get it done.

(59:23):
So it's like, let's go this other route.
Their their image model surprisingly awesome.
I really like Higgs Field's soul.
I think it's really legit. Yeah, I, I know you're, I know
you're bullish on that. And you know that the other
thing too, like I don't know if anybody's using this in like the
node based tools like Weevie, for example.

(59:45):
But like they have these like camera controls as options.
You know, when you set them up And I without thinking too hard
about it, this, I don't know if this is a hack or not.
Maybe it is, but like with all of these, if you click into
them, the way that I was just describing the prompt, the text

(01:00:06):
prompt to couple with the video was I was just taking these.
That one, yeah. Little short subscription, you
know, descriptions of each camera control and putting those
into the prompt coupled with theeffect and and they work really
well that way yes yeah so like, you know, without thinking too
hard about it, that was like something kind of cool that I

(01:00:27):
was like oh OK, like that's that's pretty dope right because
it's just like, oh, the camera pulls back rapidly from the
subject to reveal, you know and you can change that or whatever
it is but it's like you take that first line that's all you
need for the text prompt throw it on you know, connect it to
the the actual control on Higgs field in the the node based tool
and then boom. Yeah, there's, well, some of
these are also it's interesting,I don't know if you've noticed

(01:00:48):
this on Higgs field. Like if you go to a lot of like
the presets on the video side ofthings, like some of them are
like presets with minimax or presets with cling, right?
Like so you can like video you go to, if you go to create a
video, right, go to create a video and then on the top left

(01:01:10):
where it says general, where youknow, or the see where it says
general, go to change. And then you go to go click on
top, go to minimax, right? So these are the ones, these are
the presets with minimax. So they're basically just
writing system prompts for cool stuff like this.
And then yeah, so if you, I meanif you I don't know, if you

(01:01:32):
click on wireframe, does it showyou like what it is if you click
on wireframe or does it just putin?
Like this? No, it just puts it in.
Yeah, I just clicked this one and I just threw it in right
here. Yeah, so with this right, like
I've I've always just sort of like, Oh well now I know that
minimax can do this, do it myself because you know, why

(01:01:56):
waste credits on here when I could use my either minimax or
weevie credits that I have because I tend to find that I'm.
You still got unlimited on minimax I think.
I think I do, but I haven't beenthere in a while.
Well, you know, a little bit of a gripe with minimax on that
one. I bought the yearly unlimited
last year because it was such a good deal.
It was like $300.00 for the yearfor like unlimited, which I was

(01:02:20):
like, even if I use that for a month, that's like, that's like
really solid deal for unlimited and I've used it a lot.
But then when they dropped O2, there was like, oh, sorry, like
you're grandfathered out of that.
You can only use O1 and you can't use what we have to buy
more. What?
Yeah, I was like yearly subscriber.

(01:02:41):
Huh, guys, what you're going to do?
Also, they had me in the they initially had me in the first
run of their Creative Partners program, which was cool.
I had like free access to it, you know, pretty early on.
I didn't like out of nowhere. I just like disappeared.
Interesting. I need, I need to, I need to see
if I'm still if I've still got the unlimited or not on here.

(01:03:06):
Because I I do I think minimax probably top one or two with
anything action related. It's pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it.
It gets slept on for sure. I like it.
I use it a lot and especially inweevie, I use it a lot.
It's even I'm not even like the pro model, just the standard
model of O2 is good, which was more than 5 seconds.

(01:03:29):
But regardless, I think it's good.
But this is but like this is also like a good place to go
like in here just to like see some of the stuff like you said
that just like even from like a like I like how Higgs field does
it where they show it to you. They show it to you Yeah, that's
it's just like such a simple thing, but right, like brains
process the visual component so much faster than text.

(01:03:53):
Come on, just, you know, like give me the little preview.
This is a great way to like again ID 8.
But now you're showing me visit,you know, visually exactly what
I can ID 8 with the with the video side, right.
I'm more of a stills guy. So I mean, like this helps me a
ton. I come in here, I'm like, OK,
cool. Yeah, yeah, man, can you click
on click on popcorn real quick though I'm curious now to see if

(01:04:15):
it's to see how it looks. So you upload 4 reference images
to standard using a storyboard, describe your story and
optional. Interesting.
OK, so you upload 4/4 reference images and then you hit.
OK, that's interesting. I have my log.
Do I have any? I have no idea.
Looks like it. Yep, only used 33%.

(01:04:40):
Rock'n'roll. I didn't know I used any
percent, so that's serious to me.
What's what? Are we doing like?
I don't know man. Oh another another little hack
with Higgs field. Actually I forgot that I use it
is their their Chrome extension.Browse the Chrome browser

(01:05:02):
extension. I don't know what do you have
for you can just it basically you can any image on the
Internet that you can just hit recreate and it'll just drop
automatically into Seoul. But the it's not about to me,
it's not about getting the image, it's about just like
because Higgs field will show you the exact prompt it used to

(01:05:26):
create it. So I just go and use like that
prompt. That prompt is off OK.
So, so so let's run an example because I have no idea what the.
Let me show so I'll. OK, so I've got I've got the
Chrome extension up. What?
Do you? Oh, you got it up.
Yeah. So click on the, click the
Chrome extension real quick. I just want to see what it does.
Do you have to sign in or is it like ready to go?

(01:05:49):
OK, let's see. Let's see.
Just try a Yeah no. But there's nowhere to click
here. What am I doing?
Weird. I.
Wonder if I need to go to probably.
So are you on Chrome? Are you on ARC?

(01:06:10):
I'm on Dia, yeah, but I mean like I can add the Chrome
extension here though. Let's see.
Because like, yeah, technically you could click into any one of
these images, right? And then just right click on the
image and see if it comes up. Oh.
OK. I might not do it.
Let's see, because you have mid journeys, right click that's

(01:06:32):
right. But I've done I've done it a lot
with OK. Show, I mean, if, if you can
show it, I'm curious about that.That's really interesting.
Remember like Glyph, Glyph had some stuff like that.
I I need to revisit Glyph? Let's see.
GLIF dot app you remember glyph?Yeah, let me just make sure I'm

(01:06:54):
logged into Higgs field over here or else it's not going to
OK, see this open this writing available.
OK, so just say like, you know, Pinterest, let's just go with
like the first interest, the first image on here.
Cool. Like this 10.
It already. Popped out there, so it's you

(01:07:17):
hit like recreate and then you can generate.
Let's just do this in 3-4. I can change the aspect ratio,
hit generate, and then when I goto images, it's already
generating in here. But what I like about it is when
I use like an image like that orsomething like I used a
reference image, I was like, cool, when you go in the edit

(01:07:39):
prompt, it's got a really good prompt, Ah.
Interesting, interesting. So you got all this stuff in
here and it's a real solid structure.
Like if I. Was is it?
I was going to say, do you use that structure on another model
and it works? Definitely used it on a few.
Have you used it on mid journey and does it work well?

(01:08:00):
I've dude, let's you want to runit.
Let's run it. Is this one exactly as is?
Exactly. As is you.
Don't man, you know what would be interesting too is to run
that image like what I would want to do is run it through my
GBT too and then the structure that I've got in there and just
kind of see compare the results.Rock'n'roll, yeah, looks pretty

(01:08:27):
good. Yeah.
See, this is again like going back to our point, right?
You shouldn't. I mean, you can, but you don't
have to be starting with an empty box for prompting.
I mean, it's like especially when you're in deep on a project
or you got something at hand, it's about scale and efficiency.
You're you can't, you can't be doing this stuff manually 1 by

(01:08:50):
1. You have to have some sort of
automated component when it comes to the prompt itself,
right? And so this is where it's like
the structure going back to the very beginning where you and I,
I think we're talking about thisstuff really before anybody else
was, which is about like creating this structure of these
templates that the model understands that can RIP, you
know, descriptions visually and slot those into those spots.

(01:09:15):
You don't have to think too hardabout it, right?
Like there's still sometimes where it's like, OK, maybe this
pulled in the typography and I don't want that.
Or maybe I'm not wanting this pink, I'm wanting green.
Maybe I'm not wanting, you know,an old woman, maybe I'm wanting
a young man, right. Like just like, but but that
alone, you've got the consistency to just kind of

(01:09:36):
instantly use things at your fingertips.
I mean, I'm thinking about stuffright now, like I, I've got to
create hundreds of still images.You know, they're, I'm not doing
that one by one, you know, in terms of like prompting an empty
box, right? I have to find a a structure
that's going to work and things that are repeatable.
So let's see, I'm just like we're showing you the exact

(01:09:58):
process right here, right? Great.
We just took we used Higgs field.
Hey, Rory. See if you can zoom in on that
just a little if you can. I'm not sure if you can but but
try if I can. There you go better.
So what we just did was basically we took an image from
Pinterest, right? We recreated it in Higgs field
and then we took we went into the edit prompt.

(01:10:21):
We copied this this whole prompt, which is actually broken
out the way that I would typically prompt in like this
Jason style, right? That's where the chaff GBT
synthesizes prompt into a promptformula.
Now you can use this over and over and over and over again,
right? That's you can just copy this.

(01:10:41):
You can go build a custom GBT off of this.
You can go do a build a system prompt off of this like there
you go. That's what that's what the
formulas are for. That's what the templates are
for, so. And what was your?
What was your prompt? So you took that in and what,
what did you say? You said synthesizes prompt into
a prompt formula or template. And just bang, there it is.
A lens effects subject description, wardrobe, brooming,

(01:11:03):
scene, location, time of day, environment, action prompts,
physics. Cool, dude.
This is where it's at too. Because right, like if like in
my GPT for example, like I've got like I think 3 different
prompts structures that it breaks out And most of the time,
like one or two is all I need totry.
But if you imagine right, havinga handful of these.

(01:11:26):
That. You can swap in and swap out.
And now you're, instead of like starting from scratch, you just
take copy and pasting 5 things, let's just call it, and you're
finding the best result. And that also makes this a
little bit model agnostic, right?
Because maybe the coherence is slightly different on mid,
right? But like now you can kind of
really shortcut this process. I mean, this is something that

(01:11:47):
like when me and you first did this, it didn't feel like this
big thing. And it's certainly not this hard
thing to do either. But the impact and significance
of this and the application of it, how often you're going to
use this is insane. So if you've not done this by
now, you should. So let's let's do something
here. Now let's go.
Let's go see how model agnostic this is, right?

(01:12:08):
We'll go and paste this prompt into Wii, and then we'll go and
run. Let's go see which image
generators we can. Let's pull in Reeve.
Let's pull in ChatGPT image one,let's pull in image and four,
let's do flux 1.1. Let's do Mystic, let's do
idiogram, and let's do Luma photon.

(01:12:34):
I think Luma mini Max image is better than that.
Let's do this. All right, so let's try to like
run all these real quick. We'll set this.
Are you like me where you try toget those perfectly straight?
Of course, dude, I have to. I can't have them all over the
place. Hey, hey, we've we're

(01:12:55):
perfectionals, which we we couldtalk to him about, but I if we
could get like snap in place straight lines.
Oh. Dude would be.
It's so cool. My ADHD would thank you so much.
Yeah, this is this is the only thing with this.
Once you then once you have it set up, we can run like 15 of
these, right? Let's just say Mystic.

(01:13:16):
So listen here, let me make surethese are all three fours, so we
do the same exact. Thing, yeah.
I mean I haven't run Mystic outside of Weevy, but like when
I have surprisingly. I like Mystic.
Good results, yeah. It's.
Maybe not surprisingly, but like, underrated.
Underrated. Yeah, I've been a, I've been a
fan of Mystic as of recently, like a lot use it.

(01:13:38):
I feel like I use it way more than I think I would.
It just listens and it's got good, good texture and color,
right? Because you can also go up to 4K
with it. So let's run all these at the
same time and then then also could just do this and we'll run
the other one run one of the other ones.
We'll see how again, we'll see how model agnostic.

(01:13:58):
This is not bad works pretty good GPT you are really slow
Reeve fast Idiogram fast, Flux 1.1 really fast Mystic also
really fast. Not listening to the to the
fork, though. Let's go back here and this is

(01:14:20):
how this is how we go is a good one.
Let's do this one edit prompt. Let's go back here.
We'll use this one paste guys. Another great use of weedy is
just like this is like my way tofind find which image generator
is going to work, whether you'redoing like film or stills, if

(01:14:41):
you can do video or stills and like this could be like my
starting point for all of my images, right?
Like OK, damn, breathe nice, very nice.
Oh, I like so this so. There you go.
God, our our IP Visual electric too.
I feel like that would have beena great that would have been a
great one to have in here too. I wonder what perplexity is

(01:15:03):
going to do with that. What's did Perplexity acquire
them? Yeah.
Let's see. All right, so bees, you know,
Reeve. Good.
I mean, but but look at the. I mean, look at the original.
Look at the original image that you pulled in was a great.
Image yeah, and this one. You know, there there's some

(01:15:25):
really interesting lighting elements and colors coming
through on that original image. And just look at these images.
I mean, these are pretty incredible, Yeah, in terms of
what it's capturing in the vibe.And I mean these, these do feel
great. And that's so that's that's.

(01:15:45):
Going back to that, that's goingback to that prompt again and
you know, again, so maybe that'sthat's a real.
Nice, got some good stuff, man. I I really like, I really like.
You know, I was doing some really cool things with their
like with their image generator.I really like it and it's got

(01:16:05):
it's got super high like saturation on a lot of this
stuff. But like for these these types
of shots, you know, these are you can tell the car is like a
little bit glossy. You know, some of this stuff
like for hyper realism, like it's going to be it's a good
spot. Let's see what mid journey did
with these right. Like still, this prompt works,

(01:16:27):
except the forks a little bit screwed up.
But dude, big big fan of what you can do with Higgs field
Seoul, because this is the original, right?
That's from Higgs field. This is the new one from Higgs
field that I just generated. It's see how it's gotten real
like the HDR plus the the saturation on a lot of it.

(01:16:49):
It's good. I'm just a fan.
So this is because this is again, this is a new way to
start to figure out how to like get through this stuff, right?
Like how you going to go and test all these tools?
I don't know you can't you can'thave a subscription to all of
them. Wevy can help there and then we
can test prompt structures and things like that.
We can use chat. We how many tools do we just use

(01:17:10):
here to get to something in 5 minutes, right?
Like that was that was Higgs field Chrome extension to Higgs
field Seoul to ChatGPT back intoWevy to use ten other tools.
And that happened really quick. So it's sort of how you connect
the dots, right. But that was I couldn't that was

(01:17:31):
good. We haven't, we haven't like
really experimented like that ina few episodes, so.
That was good. Yeah, dude, I I know that's
that's awesome. I love that and shit, man, let's
wrap it up because I feel like we we've covered a lot.
We're running a little long, butthank you guys.
I mean, I've you guys stuck to the end.
Not only like and subscribe, Rory, not only that, but I mean
like, dude, you know what? I love what we I love when we go

(01:17:54):
to the like, it's the end and welike not even purposefully find
some of the the gems of the conversation just because it's
like, you know, at first we're just trying to share things and
just kind of like pair it back and maybe add semantic tape, you
know, anecdotes. But then we get into more of
like our, our thinking and actual action behind it.
And then it like leads to this kind of shit.

(01:18:15):
So I think that's good stuff, Man, that that Higgs field thing
is super interesting. I'm gonna try that.
Yeah. That sort of prompt format too.
That's. That's a nugget for the real
ones who stuck around for an hour and 15 minutes.
So it's about. This was about.
I can subscribe, damn it. I can subscribe.
Good. Good to see y'all.
We'll be back next week. Rory.
Man, good to see you take care of the fam.

(01:18:36):
Halloween Edition. Next week.
Maybe. Maybe do something for that.
Should we dress it up? Yeah, yeah.
Let's do it. You can be a nun with a gun and
I'll be a homesteader. Yeah, there we go.
Just do our good journey, good journey costumes.
Absolutely, man. All right, guys.

(01:18:57):
Well, good to see you. Thanks for joining us and we'll
see you guys in the next one. See ya.

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