Midjourney TV MJTV + Personalized Explore Pages

Rory’s apartment is in chaos, Drew’s talking about broken toes again, and somehow they end up deep-diving Midjourney TV like it’s cable circa 1999. In this episode, the guys go full nerd on Midjourney’s video loops, end frames, and personalized Explore Pages—plus fresh Office Hour gems on Style Explorer, V8 hints, and even video audio layers that could flip workflows on their heads. If you’ve ever wanted to know how to chain video keyframes without breaking your sanity (or your credits), this is your episode. Bonus: Vine nostalgia, Abercrombie comebacks, and more unsolicited fashion advice than anyone asked for.---⏱️ Midjourney Fast Hour00:00 – Drew opens with After Dark energy, Rory’s apartment woes01:00 – Midjourney TV first impressions (and why it’s weirdly addictive)04:30 – Personalized Explore Page walkthrough & “For You” feed09:40 – Style codes, crushed highlights, and Rory’s goat obsession14:30 – Style Explorer predictions & trending token ideas19:30 – Keyframe loops explained (and why composition matters)25:30 – Midjourney’s background erase + Photoshop pain flashbacks33:40 – Office Hour drops: mood board weighting & video turbo mode40:00 – Video pricing, audio layers, and sound’s “Rubicon moment”46:50 – Chaos & stylize parameters coming to video prompts50:30 – Secret projects, two-second video model & Vine comeback53:20 – Abercrombie flashbacks & heavyweight tee obsession57:20 – Heavyweights (the Ben Stiller kind) + Aleph’s video magic01:05:00 – Runway diagram prompting, ideogram shoutout, Mystic AI01:09:30 – Midjourney’s growth curve & why you need to dive in now01:12:00 – Like & subscribe pitch + one-year podcast anniversary---#Midjourney #MidjourneyTV #MidjourneyVideo #MidjourneyAI #AIart #AIGeneratedVideo #VideoLoops #EndFrame #aiworkflow #StyleExplorer #GenerativeAI #AIVideo #CreativeAI #AItools #AImarketing #AIcontent #VideoEditing #AImotion #Keyframes #AIcommunity

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
What's up everybody? Mid journey fast hours podcast
after dark, Baby, turn off the lights.
Roy, turn off the lights. I can't.
This is this is the last. This is also probably the last
after dark. We'll be recording in my my
lounge in my building. Hopefully I will be able to

(00:21):
record at night in a new apartment where.
Where he's moving. Sleeping in my living room.
Yeah, yeah. When we, when we record these at
at night like this, I mean it's really is a disturbance to your,
your way of life. So.
I'm I'm looking forward to your new place and I'm sure you are
too, man. And it's going to be back.

(00:44):
You know, like normally we do this on Friday again, but we're
whoops, little mic, little mic issue there doing a little
Thursday night edition and mid journey, mid journey after dark
like we always do. And I think it's like a good
time to kind of jump in to wherewe left off with the video stuff
from last time, right? So last episode we were talking

(01:04):
about loop, we were talking about in Frame, which had just
launched less than, I don't know, maybe 12 hours before we
recorded that episode. So we didn't really get a chance
to dive deep into that. I think we've both had some time
to play around a little bit there so we can get into that,
catch up with office hours notes, couple new things coming
up during the pipe. You know, I think related to

(01:27):
video we're talking about, I think 720 Pi think we're talking
about. Yeah, let's actually why don't
we do this? Let's do it.
I don't know what you're going to say, but I want to do it.
Let's just do it. Let's just just just do it.
All right, Let's just. Do it.
I feel like, you know, if, if we're going to get into the
officer, we should have it pulled up.

(01:48):
But yeah, man, I think there's there's a lot going on.
Mid Journey just shipped a a couple new items too that we'll
touch base on mid journey TV. Like small but big kind of dope.
Should we just pull it up right now so everyone can see?
Let's do it. I got it.
I got a tab up right now. I had it on before, just like
you. You start watching it and then I

(02:09):
don't know, like 5 minutes lateryou're like, why am I still
watching it? But it's just sort of
mesmerizing. This is the perfect in the
background vibe, you know, So I've got a can't see it here,
but I've got ATV on the other side here.
This is my office down here. I don't usually watch TV or
anything when I'm in the zone, in the flow.

(02:31):
If I do have something visually though, you know, like maybe
some scenescapes and I can do this, this is much cooler than
that. Much cooler, much cooler.
I mean not the not the the firstof its of its kind.
You've had some of these, you know, I think Runway and Google
have it, but like if this is cooler because it's this.

(02:51):
Is dope. I love this.
It's such like a one of those like small but big things.
And for those of you that are not familiar with this and just
hearing about this for the firsttime, this was covered in office
hours yesterday, Wednesday, and this can be found at
midjourney.tv. So anybody can pull this up,

(03:12):
cycles through videos, right? So most of these videos are four
or five seconds long. Go to the next one.
It's almost like a little bit ofthat, like Coco melon.
No audio for adults here. That what this is.
That what this is. That's a good way to put it.
So I don't know, it's it's it's cool, right?
It's entertaining. It's not, you know, and I think

(03:35):
with the movements with AI videoand mid journey video too, like
you could see video being like very overwhelming and
distracting. In some ways.
This feels like very like kind of calming and almost like a
little bit of like a creative flow in some ways because you
just like, take a peek at and you're just like, oh, OK, like
kind of takes you somewhere. I wish this could be my like my

(03:57):
screensaver on my background, right?
It's like constant loop. You know, if anyone's listening
over there at mid journey and that's even a possibility,
they'd be pretty cool. I don't know how that would even
work, but you know, just throwing out ideas here because
this is like, to me, this is just a great branding piece.
You want to put something out that's free and that everyone
can see all the work. You know, everything is about

(04:19):
the community. Everything's about, you know,
sort of sharing this stuff like bang free for everyone.
I know I'm about to go off stealth just so I can be on this
somehow. And even then, when?
When is it going to be? Do I have to tune in at a
certain time? Am I?
Do I have a notification that hits?
Do I have to catch it at the right time here?
You just got to keep watching dude.

(04:40):
Cycle through millions of videostill you catch your own.
Oh. My God, dude, seriously?
Talk about needle in a haystack,but this was someone asked a
question the other day too on I was on office hours for maybe
like 15 minutes while I was on the subway until it cut out and
then I got rained on. I saw you on there buddy.
Did you? Well, I was on I, I was on the

(05:01):
Discord this time, but I was trying to get on Twitter too.
And until I realized that I can't be on both because there's
no mute option on the Twitter 1.So I was like, oh shit.
But I did see your see your nameup there and I was like, OK,
Rory's in here. Just know I was riding the
subway at that point. I was underground and it was
like cutting out every 5 seconds.

(05:22):
But I did hear someone say that if like you open it in two
separate browsers, it's not the same thing.
So like there's two separate windows.
So it was like, it's like I justhave a wall of TV's with that
even found like an agency officeor something like this would be
this would be. Perfect.
That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, if you had like a
small office, people come in or something, you know, just like

(05:45):
there's a nice lounge area. It's like constantly.
What's better than this? Come on, what's better than
this? This is like watching the for
you page just on loop, you know,like without having to scroll.
It's like, all right, cool. This was, I mean, so this was
like a nice little pleasant surprise.
And then there was the, you know, let's talk about the other
update that was there too, which, how much of this have you

(06:09):
looked at? I was waiting for tonight to
open it. Fresh reaction.
Oh. Really.
Shut up. You serious?
I was like I want it to be freshnow that I saw the update.
OK, so I mean, you know, you come into mid journey now if
you've had the tab open for a while, hit refresh.
Now you got a 4U button right here.
These are personalized explore page options that that come up

(06:34):
to your feed. So it's supposed to be a little
bit more tailored to the things that you like.
What's behind that exactly? I don't know how much of that is
maybe survey data versus just straight up things that you've
liked or maybe even prompted foror going into the
personalization rating images. I don't know.
I don't know. This though, feels like more of

(06:58):
a aggregation of the things thatI've liked in the explore feed
previously to me, if I had to take a guess, because I just
like good images. Honestly, I don't, I don't even
it doesn't even matter what it is.
If the aesthetics, if I like theaesthetics, I I usually hard it,
you know, I'm just like, oh, this is dope, you know, click.
On your images real quick I'm I'm curious to see what the

(07:20):
static side looks like for you. Oh.
OK, Yeah. All right, look at it.
Would you look at that green dropper.
I've seen that one before. I.
Mean like this, right? Like I love this.
Love the crushed highlights. Love that.
This is all right. So this this to me feels very

(07:40):
you already even that black bottle with the foam and the
orange background that feels like I could.
See that? I've never created that, but
yeah, I could. I mean, I, yeah.
I I have one of your PDFs with it has a black bottle on like a
slate background with white foamon it.
I know that you, I remember thatone 'cause I remember you
telling me you're like, oh, I love this one.

(08:02):
Yeah, that, that one specifically.
This looks familiar. That looks like something I've
created before. Interesting dyad.
That's cool. Dyad glitch.
What's that word DYAD? I don't know.
I don't know what that is. Art.
Style cool, I like you know, tokens, tokens for days here now
should we? What does it say?

(08:23):
Something that consists of two elements or parts.
Cool. All right.
I just learned. We just learned a new word
today. I mean, I've never heard that
word before. Me to me either.
Where's this word been? Is this a new thing?
I don't know that that one's escaped me for a long time.
I. Guess.
Unbelievable. I can't say operationalize, but

(08:44):
you know, it's this is that's a new one to me.
I feel like, dude, I feel like this is sort of tailored to you.
There's. A lot of products in here.
I mean, I don't do too many products.
But from an aesthetic standpoint.
Yeah. I mean, for sure, yeah.
Take subject out the. Colors the colors.

(09:05):
Is it a lot of blue and pink? No.
Which is Oh my God, don't even get me started.
But that one's sick. What's that one with all the
people in top left? That's that looks like it
rendered pretty well for that many people or the face we.
Got a We got a long 1 here. Chic group top oversized chunk

(09:29):
into it. Yeah, we got all the hitting all
the categories here. Yeah, it's a lot.
It's a lot of overkill there. Again, crushed highlights.
Love me some crushed highlights.Love me some crush highlights.
Dude, you know they know, I feellike.
And they're, they're on it. They're they're, yeah.

(09:53):
The watermelon and the juice, even though I didn't even see
the juice until just now. Oh, you got a you got a goat
there. It is always, always got to be a
goat reference. There it is cats and goats,
right? I mean, that's that's kind of
legit. I kind of like I would like to
see. I would like to animate that.
Yeah, that's one of. Those ones like, let's see where

(10:15):
it goes, but the. 100% yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean.
That's what I want to. I, I definitely want to play
more intentionally around with the video stuff.
Now. I feel like just to this point,
given my schedule and just kind of like the things I'm putting
the I've just been doing a lot of these style code stuff,
haven't really been creating an abundance of things creatively

(10:42):
lately. And I think like to me, that's
where I really want to go back and historically like get in,
get in the weeds a little bit. These ones turned out pretty
cool. Like this.
This was, this was just a style.This one I added.
No, this one I added something to, but I mean very simple, like

(11:02):
this was award-winning illustration of a flower with
the style code. And I think I just added the
flower, pulled out a cigarette and lights it.
I was I created these. Remember these 3D icons I
created a while back in ChatGPT and I was just testing the
looping on these? I mean, awesome.

(11:25):
Yeah, pretty dope. I mean, this one's a little
funky, but it's still still kindof cool though.
I like that it's like floppy style.
Yeah, like. You know they have the disc on
the back of the. Flower right not.
Just on the slider. For anyone born after, you know,
1995, you'll have no idea what we're talking about.
But. You also don't know what Oregon

(11:46):
Trail is and I feel sorry for you.
Great throat there. I mean, that used to be, you
know, I died. So good.
Like 800 times in my life. How do you how do you avoid that
that? Was you ever did?
Figure that out. Spoiled meat just always seem to
be the problem. That and spoiled lemonade stand.

(12:06):
I don't know if you had a lemonade stand back in the day.
Lemonade stand. It it might have even been like
I feel like I played that on a black screen with green, which
is like when green was the only color.
Tell me. I mean, I mean lemonade stand.
Tell me what? I'm not.
I'm drawing a blank here. I'm trying to like honestly, it
felt like it was just a stand that you had to just like if I,

(12:27):
I can't even remember, I don't know what what we did in the
game. Was this like a it was like a
computer, like a game that you had to buy, or it was native to
the computer or like what are wetalking?
About. I don't know I'm I'm trying to
remember which I know I played it in on school computers and
like the school computers back. Down you played it on the school
computers. Yeah.

(12:48):
And it was, you know, those werelike.
I like this one. This one turned out pretty well.
Oh, you animated this one. This is all right.
Cool. Yeah, it's like a, it's like an
old image, you know, like that'swhat I was telling you.
I was like, you know, I went back and was trying to play with
a few images here, like even this one.
I mean, it's OK. I mean, I didn't really give it

(13:10):
again, like extreme attention. It's like I prompted for it
manually once and then just kindof said OK.
We need the whole human bouquet thing to to come to.
I know these ones actually turned out pretty fucking funny.
This guy's like freaking the fuck out.
Look at that micro eye movement.Like that's awesome.

(13:33):
It's it's something you you appreciate that because you
don't get it in other ones like the micro eye movement and that
one where his eyes are blinking and also moving side to side.
Like nerd shit here, but like, seriously.
I was doing these like Alice in Wonderland ones too.
Previous thumbnail episode. Yes, it was great call, man,
that one catch. Yeah, I.

(13:55):
Remember, because that one popped because that was that
that one just looked. The colors are.
The color is dope. I think this was, I can't
remember that had to be an S ref.
That had to be an S ref. Let's see if we can track that
down real quick. So if we go in.
Alice in Wonderland. Let's go here.

(14:18):
Oh, I just grabbed it. Let's do this.
Why this is what would be great is just a reverse image search
for some stuff like this like onhere, like in the search
feature. I would love.
I would love that. I want to see, you know, I'm,
I'm really curious about the style explorer because what is

(14:40):
that? What is that?
I mean, is this like a true explorer where you can find any
style based on like selections or words?
Or is this like maybe you feature like the the trending,
you know, S refs or style codes for that particular time or

(15:01):
what? Like what is it?
That could be really cool though, too, like from a
community standpoint, right? Where like, yeah, maybe there's
like curations for for power users, right?
Where it's like Rory's, you know, hand picked 5 to 10 S
refs, you know, or something like that, you know, like that
could be cool. I still think like with style
Explorer, if that were to take place also like the token thing

(15:23):
is still cool to me. I would love to see trending
tokens. Yeah.
Popular tokens and then I think internalized, right?
Like what are Rory's most popular tokens?
What are Drew's most popular tokens?
Yeah, I just think that's reallyinteresting to see.
Going back to what we were talking about before we got on

(15:43):
the podcast is like lean into the community, like keep doing
it. Like TV thing, awesome.
Like keep going right, like thatkind of stuff, like a trending
token thing. That can't be overly hard,
right? I mean like it just it's all the
data that's being pulled in anyway.
Yeah, that's what I would. I would think that would be.
Relatively filtering and speaking again, like I know

(16:05):
what's going on here and then how they how they work this
stuff on the back end. But it would be cool, especially
if they have this personalized for you.
Is this the only ones that I upscaled?
This is an S ref though. Yeah I remember this F.
This was one of my favorite S ref codes in SV4.
Like the colors in here are so sick.
Share Share that one on the screen so.

(16:27):
So this is let me see if I can blow this up.
Can I blow this up? No, it's not going to react to
it. OK, so this is 323-764-5460.
And again, just a note, you got to put dash SV4 to get this if

(16:50):
you're running V7. Otherwise you're going to get
something totally different. You're going to be like, why am
I not getting this? And that's where people they,
they sound just like that too. Like I'm getting that a lot.
There's like, I keep trying all these and I can't get them.
I'm just like, there's literallyonly one thing that could

(17:10):
possibly be happening here. So this is like this is the just
the problem with being around the longest right?
Or being around like and adding features and different things
that you just have so many, right?
Like we get to this point now and everyone's like, like I had
a conversation with someone thatwas doing a corporate training
the other day and someone's like, I wasn't even talking

(17:32):
about mid journey. They're like, why does mid
journey have so much stuff? That's because they've been
around the longest. You can't just not innovate and
iterate on your product and justlike keep it still.
I still think they might. I still think they might have
the most features. 100%. Right.
I don't, I'm not, I'm not like I'm not just like missing
something there, right? Even just the control panel

(17:53):
itself. Dude, are they OK?
So even just on on office hours the other day, right?
Like, I mean, we talk about like, OK, quality, right?
Probably already forgot about quality.
Everybody listens. Probably already forgot about
quality. Because it's just like one of
those things. It's like one of those extra
things you got to include every time.
Yeah, but same thing with like on office hours.

(18:16):
They were talking about blend again, and I was just like, I
haven't blended anything in a long time, you know?
Like I almost forgot about it, you know?
And that's like, seriously one thing.
That's still you can't do that with version 7 yet, right?
I'm missing that. Don't think so.
No. And I, I want to say somebody
asked if you're going to be ableto do that and in this model and

(18:38):
I, I think they were saying thatthat wasn't going to be the case
like now. How about SRAM meeting?
I mean like that's something that you forget that you can do.
Like let me just throw S ref waiting profile code waiting
like that kind of stuff. Well, now you're really getting
into the weights profile code waiting.
I mean, you're now you're talking about what the 1% of the

(19:01):
1% probably using that stuff? It works.
That's I like doing with the S ref stuff though the S refs.
The S refs are fun. Yes ref's cool, I I I I really
probably don't blend as many S refs together as I probably
should I usually just kind of like look for the one and then
I'm like OK like this. This was definitely one of the

(19:21):
favorites from SV4I remember this one quite well 'cause it
also you remember the Alice in Wonderland one, but you also
probably remember this that was on with one too.
Yeah, there it is. And it's cool colors, but.
It is very rich in the in the color scheme.
The other thing that's been like, I've gotten back on

(19:43):
remixing again and I like. I have you.
I go through, I go through like phases where I forget to do it,
but then I realize that it's like my favorite thing to do,
which is like remix with X, whether that's S ref mood board
profile code, like style reference or S ref code,
whatever. I I find it's just it's always

(20:04):
awesome because it doesn't it doesn't like totally change
everything, but it's just bringsnew vibe to whatever it is.
It's like my. Yeah, I, I, I always.
Yeah, I know dude. This is the very first image
I've ever created in Mid Journey.
Lasso. I remember the lasso days.

(20:25):
Lasso. Yeah, really not bad.
I mean look at this like the output.
What was this V4? Yeah.
Would you just look at it just? Take a look at it just.
Take a look. Think about that.
You could only generate in a square.
Now you can generate in aspect ratio 1230.

(20:45):
Was it you want to? Yeah.
Was it just square back then? Just square lookout you all the
way, you'll probably go to like.All right.
Couple 100 images up before you can get to anything that was
other than square just. Thinking about this stuff,
That's crazy, I forgot about that.
When did that change 5? That that's why I had to use

(21:07):
Photoshop to get a lot of this stuff, to get a lot of this
stuff to be in different format,like carousels, whatever you
need to like find some janky upscaler that would that would
work to try and get, you know, to do like the cover of like a
like a carousel on LinkedIn or something like that.
Yeah. Just to make it fit on the the

(21:28):
1200 by 1500 like things we usedto do.
Yeah, man, so. Simple but.
This was this. This goes back to like the I was
trying to do like the Atlanta Hawks on a basketball thing.
Yeah, it's wild. Wow.
Still. A Still an awesome aesthetic,
still works, still rips. Hold on.

(21:50):
Now that you do, let me let me see what my personalized page
looks like. Let's see how different it is.
Hold. On Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Let's
go. Yeah, Let's compare it here.
Let's just check it out. Let's see.
All right, now I'm curious because I haven't looked in mine
yet. I feel like half mine have
crushed highlights. Oh, we have the same image,

(22:14):
Drew. Dude, horror top left.
I mean, that's all. That's all you need to know.
What is going on? I mean, I never, never one
thing. But I I.
But I better see a car soon. Well, here's.
Here's what I have. Yeah, and there you got 1 below.
This one's me all the way, you know, that's that's right up my.

(22:35):
That's dope actually. Harding that that's like,
exactly what I would be trying. To do that's dope.
That's dope. This pretty good too, like right
up my alley in terms of like thethe contrast, what else we got.
Oh yeah, all right. Gritty.
Rough. Gritty.
Always. Cars.
Cars. Cars yes yeah, you know, some

(22:59):
stuff here, some of the stuff like, you know, I'm probably not
me quiz I. Think that's you, man?
Yours this one was on yours Thisone was on yours.
Let's see. I remember seeing a couple of
these on yours. But yeah, interesting.
Let me see the videos of the same all right, a little
different. This this makes a.

(23:21):
Little wait go to go to videos. I can't see your videos now.
Oh, you can't see it? It's on it right now.
No, Huh. Let's stop, let's bring it back,
because these are actually pretty good.
I'm into this stuff. Bring it back all.
Right. OK, now I can see it.
Yep, skateboard. Yeah, our our top 2 rows are

(23:44):
totally different. This one's pretty good.
I like the texture in this one. What is this?
This is all right. This is.
Yeah. I think this hits are we we're
not rolling here there we go allright, cool swag.
These are so interesting. You know, like I'm definitely

(24:05):
going to. I, I feel like I'm probably
going to look at it even more now because I'm just.
I mean you you, I mean just froman educational standpoint, this
is a new feature, right? And so I like to see outside of
the box, and I know you 2, I'm just pretty, I'm just talking
for both of us here really. But like I like to see all the

(24:29):
different variations that are possible, right?
And that's not just going to happen with the things that I've
got going on, right? I mean, I mean, this is where it
comes down. This is why we've been preaching
from the beginning of how powerful the explorer and search
and all that stuff is, because this is educational material,

(24:52):
especially if you're using this stuff day in and day out.
And you're especially if you're using this stuff for at a client
project, doesn't even have to bea client, but like, let's just
say your internal users for a project.
This, I mean, this is how you get better because I mean, it's
just like, oh, how does it, how does it do that?
Right? Like, and then I get then you
can get into, was that manually prompted or did that just kind

(25:15):
of happened by luck? And if it happened by luck, what
was set up for it to happen by luck, right?
Because there's a difference between somebody saying
something, you know, 50 words about something and then
somebody saying 2 words about something and then getting a
result, right? It's like, OK, well, that could
happen, but how many times did it take to get that right?

(25:36):
But this is, this is, this is not only fun, but you're, you're
absorbing all of the versatilitythat could take place with your
own stuff. This is this is the type of
stuff that gets me thinking. It's so interesting.
I love when people's brains go into these weird places, right?
Where it's like, where did you even like what caused this

(25:58):
thought? You know where, like, where did
this thought come from? Hoarders, right?
Yeah. Cell phone selfie or cell phone
selfie of an extremely overweight couple in a dirty
apartment room? OK, interesting, Interesting
thought process. The other thing, the other thing
too that they added, I don't know if this was between last

(26:18):
week or not, but you, I I wasn'tseeing it for a while after they
said this, but you can download videos as GIFs here.
You can on here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, yeah. I mean you you click into one
and then just right click or youmight even be able to right
click. From that, oh you can you can
download the wrong video talent for social.

(26:40):
OK, didn't know so I know that. I know I, I didn't either
because even today, earlier today, I was taking videos that
I made to put it, you know, thengo into Adobe to, to transfer
him to a, to a gift. So yeah, that's that's possible.
All interesting, all interestingthings here, Like I'm going to

(27:00):
have to spend a lot of time now because it's actually feels like
stuff that I like, which is, youknow, I've I've always had
somewhat of a like I I never felt like the top or like the
top week. Maybe like top month.
I'd find like a bunch that I'd like, you know, in this stuff,
but like I never felt like the hot or whatever or like like

(27:21):
this is like I like how this looks, but I'm never going to
prompt for that, you know? What I mean, right, See, that's
like, that's like half my shit. I'm like, I'm going to like this
because maybe one day I'll want to create something like that.
And now I've got some inspiration.
You know what I mean? It's like OK.
Like I like this. I'm probably.
Not I've seen that Dalmatian. I've seen that Dalmatian
porcelain dog somewhere before, I don't know where.

(27:43):
Same with that guitar on the left.
This again I like this I'm I'm like never going here you.
Know what I mean? As weird as.
That sounds and not because not because I don't like it, just
because it's not something that's in my thought process
day-to-day. But that's a good thing, though
probably I'm just I'm just not as a habitual of the user of the

(28:04):
explore page. Habitual.
Gotta throw one SAT word in there.
Dyad. Is it dyad or dyad?
I think it might be dyad if I had to.
If I had to guess. Did someone in the comments
please correct us if we're wrong?
They don't. Come on man.
I don't, don't underestimate. No one knows it's dyad, so it's

(28:30):
dyad. This this from last week, right?
Going into the going back into the video stuff, you know, now
that they release keyframes, I wanted to test them sort of in
the same way that I used to testlike runway or luma, whatever.
So similar, similar things happened, right?
Like similar things happened, which makes it a little bit

(28:51):
more, a little bit more palatable to sort of get up to
speed because it's like, OK, I can expect the same exact thing.
So, you know, we talked about itlast week.
It was like, oh, can you add, can you extend and add another
frame? So right after that episode, I
was just like, bang, right on it.
Let's go do a car video. You know, like let's go do.
It. And it works really well, pretty

(29:12):
easy, not too hard, but there's a few things.
Let me actually, I'll just pull up the I'll pull up my thing on
Twitter because it's actually easy to.
Read. Yeah.
And while you're doing that, just to recap in case you guys
aren't sure. So last week we were talking
about not just not not extending, but we were talking
about taking the last frame, then switching that to the start

(29:34):
frame and then yadda, yadda, yadda.
Go on, go on, go on. And so we did do like a live
experiment last week on that just to see, you know, kind of
what that result in. We didn't really have a great
example that we were doing because we always do this live.
We don't prep for this guys, forbetter, for worse.
We do it live baby, But that wasthat was that was pretty cool to

(29:54):
see, right? Like, and so you're saying with
this specifically, that was whatyou did.
You took the end frame, repositioned as start frame, ran
it, repeat, rinse and repeat. So there was to this one I was
like, all right, let me see if Ican just get this.
You know, this is I did this in 15 minutes.

(30:15):
So some of it's good, some of it's bad, but like really the
idea here was like I have this like static image of this right
start here. But if I want to get it to, I
was like, let me get a driving through different locations, but
I want like the transition to happen, right, Nice and smooth.
So you can see like, you know, we go from the jungle and then

(30:36):
we have I added this in after the fact, but you know, then
you're in the mountains, like you don't even know it really.
And then it's just like switch zoom desert.
And then we have switch zoom like into city bang and then
back. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty cool.
So the fun thing here to do, andthis is with keyframes, this
tends to work really well. If you want to do something like

(30:57):
this specifically, you know you can remove the background like
this, remove the background and regenerate, right?
So you can end up with yeah, especially in mid journeys
editor just like same car. It'll it'll keep everything
consistent because things in keyframes like consistency wise
like if this patch wasn't on like the side window here, which
I don't even know what that is, but like if that's not in it

(31:20):
from shot to shot like you'll see it like morph into place.
It looks weird because you're using keyframes.
It's going to like force it in. But little tip for for
keyframes. If you have something that's you
have a subject or something that's center framed like this,
right? If you, if you go and put
another key frame in that has a center framed sort of image,

(31:44):
they're going to stay like almost relatively the same.
Like there's not going to be a lot of movement.
So like I always try to like build in.
If you see like these images as I, as I, you know, regenerated
them, like the car's not in the center.
They're just like they're like alittle bit off.
It like gives them some room like especially with car shots
like this, it gives the IT givesit some room to travel.

(32:05):
So if this was keyframe 1 and this was keyframe 2, well, you
can see if there's space for it to move, if that makes sense.
So like you just want like a little bit of dynamic there.
Because if not, it'll just be like like if I was trying to do
this and put the car in the middle every time the car would
like stop in the middle of the frame and stop and then it would
drive and then stop in the middle of the frame.

(32:25):
It won't like continuously move.So same thing if you have like a
person and a person like, oh, this person's walking and doing
whatever and then your next keyframe, they're like directly
in the center, like they're not going to really move that much.
They're just going to kind of like stop and freeze at the end
frame. They're not going to like
continue the motion. So it's hard to it's hard to
show that without showing that. But I saw some other people that

(32:48):
have like they're like redid this style video and it was
like, OK, this would drive and then it would end up right in
the center of the frame and likealmost like park instead of keep
driving and wouldn't be like seamless from one thing to the
next, 'cause you know, I hear keyframe on the right side.
Now this one I dropped in, you know, the car's on the left side

(33:09):
now it's on the right side now it's on the left side.
So it gives it like some space. I like that.
That's smart, yeah. These are these are from dealing
with runway for a long time Luma, like just doing keyframes
and being like, why won't this stuff like work the way I want
it to? So little tip for everyone
there. That's like a if you're not
getting like enough movement between frame to frame, like

(33:31):
sometimes you need to like play with the composition a little
bit and doesn't have to be that extreme.
It can just be like, you know, make, you know, like a like a an
editor. Just move the image over a
couple inches and then like regenerate part of the side, you
know, like there are a couple, you know, maybe just shift it
over, crop it out and then so you get sound a little bit

(33:52):
different, but not the diatribe.Hey, no, that's that that's good
though you know, like you you brought up one other interesting
point, which is removing background yeah, that's easy now
that's easy now in the journey right.
I think people like going back to this feature.
You were you forget things. Peace, right, smart select.

(34:14):
Let me I don't do this a ton, but basically take this.
I can select what I want and it's grabbing the pieces right.
Boom, I've got my subject race background.

(34:35):
OK, so I mean like this is I think that's just like
interesting because I mean that rolled out.
No one's thought twice about that unless you're using it all
the time. I barely think about it.
So just just a reminder that that's all there.
And if you have the chance to dothings in Tool, obviously that's
even better, right? So it's just like another one of

(34:56):
those reminders of, yeah, I can erase background, could take
subject out, do all that cool shit.
Although you know that Photoshopthing.
Finally harmonize. Let's go, baby.
Let's go like, why did it take three years?
That's the only thing they should have been working on.

(35:16):
It's like that's. Like honestly, you ever had to
composite before? Oh boy.
Really the only thing that was needed like match lighting like.
Boy, you used to have me going in there with the curves, with
the levels, with the man, everything.
Burn tool, the dodge tool get inthere and like you know, let me
add the shadow. Oh, it's not the same like

(35:38):
shadow like it's not the same angle like oh God, kill me, but
it is the worst. I nothing unless you've grinded
in Photoshop before for a project like I feel like it's
like a that's like a rite of passage in the design world.
It's like. Oh my God, dude, let me get all
those hours back. Go erase the background before

(35:59):
magic. Erase with someone with frizzy
hair. Tell me, tell me how much you
you love your job like that. That might be the worst thing
I've I've ever done in my life. Like that stuff.
But you know, not to mention, I mean like I tried it, it works
it it to me, it's still just like it could be better.

(36:20):
But for Adobe, you know it's notstill subscribe to the product.
I mean, still in beta, Still in beta, yeah, also.
So I mean, it's, you know, it's not even completely finished and
it's taken this long, so. I talk so much smack about
Adobe, yet I still pay them every month I've.
Still been paying them? Yeah, same.

(36:41):
Still paying them. Still can't get rid of it.
I mean it at the end of the day,it is a good deal like the, you
know, the, the creative. Do you have the Creative Cloud
or this Photoshop? Yeah, I was going to say I think
I have the Creative Cloud like Idon't, I think it's 10 is a 10
bucks 12. Bucks well, there's the one,
the, there's I think the one, the $50 one, the $50 one.
I don't, I definitely, I definitely don't have that and I

(37:03):
don't need that. The only thing, the only things
I think I have are Photoshop, Lightroom, Camera Raw.
Of course with Camera Raws in Photoshop.
So one more you. Just have the Photoshop one,
yeah? 'Cause I have the maybe one
more, but that, I mean that's all I use though.
So, but, but I mean, it's like 10 bucks.
I'm like, yeah, I'm not not getting rid of that.

(37:25):
They they've built lifers and wecan't get off it.
So you know this one. I just hope like this is the
direction, like you see it, everyone's excited about it,
like go this route, like make iteasier for compositing.
Like really that's all it is. But don't, don't, we don't, we
don't need like a bunch of otherlike random stuff.

(37:46):
There's no, there's no need bring in.
If you're going to work on the AI stuff, just use the other
tools API's like you've been doing, like they just started
doing that right, bringing that stuff in.
So people ask me about Firefly. I'm just like, I can't like it's
not, it's not up to par. I'm probably biased because it's

(38:08):
Adobe too, you know, like if it was like some random like no
name start up, I'd be like, it'sOK, but it's Adobe.
So I'm like I I like immediatelysay like this sucks.
They can't, they can't use it 'cause they should be like if
Adobe, I know be better, be better.
Well be that's it. Be faster.

(38:28):
Be something. I mean you guys, they got more
resources and revenue than anybody and they keep.
Product bloat, like that's it. It's just you have like, I don't
know what do they have 60 products or something like that.
This product is so intense for sure.
It's like, how do you even? How do you even know what to
focus on? Yeah.
I mean it's got to be time to sunset some of those products

(38:48):
and think about products that consolidate the workflow.
Let's go back, let's go back to this office hour notes.
There's a couple other things that we we haven't touched on
too. There's so so we did talk about
the Style Explorer that's targeted as the next broad
release, they say, with richer style control ideas sketched for
later versions. Dedicated mood board tab is

(39:12):
under consideration so more users discover the feature.
There was a mood board refresh update.
Improved performance, especiallywhen using weight factors.
What? OK, Turbo.
Hold on, go back one second So. You know what I need to Yeah,

(39:33):
Let me share this. Let me share this again.
Yeah. Waiting features.
So you can like put two mood boards in and say like I want 2
to 1 of this one. Yeah.
Cool. All right, I'm.
Down. But I mean, I thought that it
that was already possible. Mood boards?
I don't think so. You could do a personalization.

(39:54):
With waiting files. Yeah, I haven't been able to do
it with mood boards, unless I'm missing something.
I can't even remember because I haven't used mood boards in a
while. Shame on me.
I I Yeah. I don't know the exact answer.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, OK. Either way, moot point because
it's there. Cool video Turbo mode they're

(40:19):
working on Shortens generation from 68 seconds. 20 seconds.
Remember we were talking about that 720P?
We weren't sure if that was already live or not.
So it's not live yet in testing.Debated, likely just for mega
plan users. Team is benchmarking against
improve upscalers before deciding Significantly more

(40:40):
expensive. Here's a random question.
Yeah. Did they release a mega plan
now? Like is that?
Actually, well, the mega plan's been out.
Is that the one, is that the the$90.00 a month one or is there
like mega mega which is like bigger than that?
No that you're you're on the howmany fast hours you get 90 or

(41:03):
something. I'm on the top, whatever the top
Tier 1 is. I know.
Is it? That's 90, right?
I got to, I got to hold on one second.
We get I got to this is I'm going to do some side research,
side side quest real quick. Yeah, so I mean, Mega's been
around for a while, but that's that's the top one, right?
Because you got like basic, standard, pro and mega.
Basic standard pro then. Maybe I missed that one because

(41:27):
maybe I'm just on pro. No, you're not.
There's no way. So no, there's no way you're on
Pro. Let's let's take a quick, let's
take a. Quick, I'll I'll bet you, I'll
bet you your apartment you're not on pro.
I don't. I don't think you want it.
You want it? We'll trade, then I'll take your
house. Let's see.

(41:48):
Manage subscription. You're on mega.
You're on mega bro. I am on the OK, I'm on the mega
plan. Come on, stop.
I I don't know, I didn't know ifthere was like some super secret
500 fast hour a month plan that I wasn't aware of yet.
I don't know. There might be, there might be.
I don't know. I don't know.

(42:09):
With the video now too, I get scared.
I don't know. Because I'm like, am I going to
run through after last month? I've been traumatized like.
Yeah, that was kind of worst case scenario.
Yeah. I mean, so you know, the the
video thing, price drop possibility and you know,
listening to office hours too, Ithink it's really interesting to

(42:30):
hear David's perspective on it. He sees there being like, just
this huge ceiling that's still attainable with video, You know,
across the board in terms of quality, in terms of
consistency, in terms of audio, right?

(42:51):
Sounded like they were going to.That was what I caught on the
audio side. It was like maybe it.
Felt yeah, and it and when they first brought that up, it was
like this little wisp in the wind where they're like, yeah,
that'd be cool. Maybe we'd do something lo fi,
you know, but you know, like themid journey TV.
You don't need sound for that. No.
Would prefer no sound on that. That said, sound is sound is a

(43:16):
Rubicon moment. I think with with video, because
I think V OS got good sound, butthere's also no one else really
doing sound like that right now.So what is the bar there?
Right? I, I, I now you hear the same
sort of tone and voices with a lot of the VO stuff.

(43:37):
It's like the same, the same sounds.
And so now you can pick it up, right?
Oh, is it really OK? You have to, you have to like be
specific about it with those. About the voice.
We added, yeah, like tonality, sort of like, you know,
dictating. What do you say like that?
What do you say? So I'll I'll describe like I'll
describe the tone of voice, like, you know, I'll put you

(43:58):
know, for something like I did one like Starbucks, like I did
this like spot on VO3 with Starbucks where it was like all
these random orders, like a cash.
The idea is the cashier just hears all these stupid Starbucks
orders and ends up going to Dunkin' Donuts and the guy just
orders a straight black coffee and he's happy, you know,
instead of like a double iced mochaccino latte with like 16

(44:20):
sugars and five whatevers. And regardless.
But like there's one scene whereI have a guy that's like a he's
like a large overweight man, buthe's like a super intellectual
and I like put the tonality is like soft voice, feminine, like
style, you know, like so he has like this very like calm and
soft demeanor. But then there's like a guy that
has a has like a liver, his kingshirt on and he's like super

(44:43):
jacked, like angry man bro, you know, like give me an iced
coffee with like raw milk, no seed oil.
But like I told in his like super deep, like raspy
testosterone laden voice and it like comes out, you know, so
those are like the things now, like what you didn't have to
prompt for before, like when it came to video, like now you have
to take into account sound. Well, I just gave you a post

(45:04):
idea right there, Why don't you?Why don't you start cracking the
nut on how to prompt for voice? Oh, no, easy.
I mean, that's that, you know. Don't be surprised if you see it
on the feed tomorrow. There you go.
Yeah, but I mean, like the the the sound thing I think is it's
got to come. It's got to come, might as well
start working on it sooner rather than like I think they

(45:25):
probably already are. They're prior to exploring that.
The the one thing with video which makes it AI will say this
because this is where you know, mid journey if you want to take
again, these are things that we never know we wanted.
We didn't know we wanted text until like chapter BT could do
text, right? Like I didn't know I wanted or
needed that. But then I was like, I want it

(45:46):
now that video 3 has sound and dialogue, I don't want to go
back to like manually adding my own sound.
I, it's such a, it's such a process.
And I think that's, that's why everyone's so obsessed with
video, because if you had to think about, like if I wanted to
get a scene of someone talking, right, like I used to like to do
that you had to have before textto video was good enough.

(46:09):
Like if you wanted to go image to video, right, create the
image had to create the video, then you had to go and then
create a voice on 11 labs and then you had to go and you know,
generate the voice with the script.
Then you had to go back to the video and lip sync it.
Then you had to go to MMM audio and add the sound or go to
another library and like 7 steps.
Now it's just a prompt. So it's like you see like it

(46:33):
solved a pain point without really knowing that it's solving
a pain point, right? Like I don't know if they were
like this is exactly what we're trying to do, but maybe they
didn't, maybe it's Google, so I don't know.
But I think serving is that mid journey.
Like, you know, the the sound isappreciated.
It's not necessary, but it's appreciated.
Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm very curious about that.

(46:54):
There's, there's also the this piece potential edition of Chaos
and prompt variations awaiting approval.
See addition of Chaos. That's what I'm looking for.
Like this is what I was hoping for when we talked about this.
Like can we add like stylize video?

(47:15):
Can we? Yeah, you start to get, yeah,
you start to get a little bit oflike now you've opened this, you
know, box where there's 1000 different ways to go, micro
decisions. There you go.
This is it where I love that because no, no other tool has
that. Yeah, that's right.
Cling has a little has a slider,I don't know if it's they still

(47:36):
have it or not. Oh, here you go.
Previous reference. Here's what we were just talking
about ideas circulating around audio layers for video, non
voice, but short term feasibility is unclear.
But I do think even that even that is a nice little next step.
I don't always need voice and that's just dependent on having
an actual person in your prompt.I mean, you don't you know, or,

(47:56):
or just the type of vibe that you're going for, but.
See the reason why I think it could be hard with mid journey,
right, is because there's so much abstract, like there's so
much abstract like what are you going to add a sound for in in
some of these images, some of your S ref code images, you're
like, what's the sound going to be?
You know what I mean? So it's it's tough in that

(48:20):
regard. I get that, but you know
anything? Sound like they sound off.
Sounded like they were pushing the upscaler back.
Delayed postpone on the video thing.
Don't need it. So let's see well, the internal
debate, but on the on the officehours, they did say that that

(48:40):
was kind of take a back seat in house upscalers a month behind.
I will just throw this this the straight up opinion out there.
I'm still a fan of having the the 480 currently like in
getting more of it. I'd rather have more generations
than less in, especially with this tool, so I just want to

(49:01):
animate everything. Same and it fits the mid journey
vibe. Yeah, like more.
Yeah. Right.
I don't want to run into caps all the time.
I don't want to run into walls and milestones Take Me Out of
flow. I don't know how I have to think
about every single prompt that I'm putting in and worry about.
Am I running out of credits? Yeah, but there's enough ways to

(49:24):
get it to 720 if you want it to 7:20.
And it's really not a bad 480 tobe honest.
Like it's not, it's not a bad 480.
It's no, it's not. It's not.
Yeah, yeah. It it still looks good it's
smooth, you know, even at 24 frames a second, not even at it,
just like at 2024 frames a second.

(49:45):
It looks smooth. It doesn't look like you know,
like some of the wands stuff. I don't know if they for anyone
who's in, you know, on the videoside, like some of the wands
stuff that outputs it like 18 frames a second, like on some of
these other tools, not the anyone here who's listening and
does open source stuff and uses Juan like you're excluded from
the conversation. But look for anyone that's tried

(50:06):
to use Juan on like one of the behold, you know, the holding
tools like Korea or whatever, you know, it comes out of 18
frames a second. It looks like stop motion almost
because you're so used to 24. But I'll take the sidebar out on
the video. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll end
the end my rant there on that. But is this our back in the
Journey TV? Yeah, we pretty much got through

(50:26):
office hour notes. Other thing is secret projects.
We're nothing new. Still secret.
There you go. Didn't.
Need to didn't need to know that, but we're we're good.
Just tell us when it's done. Yeah, there's, I mean, I've
always felt end of the year is abig time for Mitch.
I I just feel like they always kind of push October, November,

(50:47):
sometimes December. Did you listen to the full
office hours? No, I, I rarely get a chance to
listen to it in full, you know, and it also coincides with when
I got to pick up the kids from school.
So most of the time I I only catch like parts of it.
So there was there. Was two things.
I caught that is good. There was two things I caught

(51:08):
that were interesting, you know,between me losing service on and
off in the subway, 11 was, I believe David said.
They're, they're, they're considering a 2 1/2 second model
version of the video, which I was like, that's interesting.
That's right. But again, like no one really

(51:28):
does that, which I'm like down with.
I know, I feel like Pika might have something like that.
I haven't been on Pika in a while, but like, you know,
sometimes shots don't require 5 seconds.
Like things you're trying to do.Like especially if you're trying
to do like something in the filmmaking process, you might
not need 5 seconds because sometimes 5 seconds draws it out
like for, for this is this is a random thing, right?

(51:49):
Like for doing marketing wise, like if we're dealing with this
issue, trying to do hooks for YouTube ads, right?
So if anyone's unfamiliar with a, with a hook, what it is, it's
like the first two seconds of a video and it's something a lot
of times it has to be fast. It has to be and it has to be
sort of like like shocking in that sense.

(52:10):
But if you have it on like you're trying to do with VO,
it's an 8 second generation. So like it tries to extend it
and you can't get it in the same.
Sort of like. Speed or shock?
Factor. So something like this?
I could be like, oh, all right, cool.
So you know, these are just random things.
Also, Vine, Speaking of short snippets, did you see Elon

(52:30):
saying Vine's going to come back?
Need it I would love it I I missall of my vines that I had and
then they deleted. That he said it was going to
come back AI powered so I wonderif that's with video short
snippets. Huh, I want but like I just want
my old Vine data back. Like I want my old videos.

(52:51):
They were hilarious. You had some.
I was in the, we were in the heyday of like being idiots, but
we were, you know, I think that was either senior year of
college or like, right. After.
Oh, OK. So we had like the.
Yeah, mine, mine for me was outside of college, Bro, how old
are you? So I was watching.
I was watching. Seven.
Are you 37 or 38? 39.

(53:13):
No way. Yeah, turned 40 in February.
Yeah, come enough. Six months we.
Have to throw a party on. Here dude, for real?
That's that's real deal, all right, Real deal.
Baby. OK.
So yeah, I was, I'm what, three years younger than you then?
So that is right. I I know, though, yeah, 'cause I

(53:35):
was like probably like 24 and I think you're pretty.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was short lived.
Have you have you seen this stuff by the way that like the
2000s is now coming back into like popular culture, like all
the 2000 stuff. So I saw that like either was, I
don't know, it was Abercrombie and Fitch or like one of those

(53:55):
outfit like is like just released their like their like
2000s line. You know, it's like all this
stuff and like I've seen oh really?
Because New York's very late. Everything's fashioned right
such. I was such AI was such an
Abercrombie guy in in high school man.
Oh my God. If I start seeing double polo
with the 2 pop collars, I'm going to be like hey come on,

(54:16):
that's the that. If we start getting like spiky,
like spiky. Just just know that I was
popping collars long before that.
We I already got the proof. Remember I showed you that
picture. You did show me the proof. 5-6
popping. Yeah, but no.
But you know what? Abercrombie was an interesting
story. You know, like they were dead.
I I don't know all the details. I don't know if they actually

(54:38):
went bankrupt or not. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't
know if they didn't, they were close and then they started
making this comeback and for a while too, they were pricing
things super, super cheap. And a couple years ago I started
buying a couple shirts from them.
Like they've got this like soft AF line where it's like these

(54:58):
really soft T-shirts and they were great.
They're great. I haven't bought anything since,
but like, I've got a few of those shirts and yeah, man, it's
like I just saw somebody today, like I think on my LinkedIn
feeds, like they just started a job there.
I was like, like, like in, you know, in their corporate office.
Who? Whoever.

(55:19):
Came up not not being naked outside the store, you know?
But I, I'm, I'm like low key really liking the name soft AFI
mean, that's just that's just right on point.
Dude those shirts are great. I I take that that's almost as
good as like I didn't even realize that American Apparel
still existed until the Sydney Sweeney commercial like.

(55:41):
Yeah, it's. Like.
Yeah. They're still here.
Are you a are you a like, do youlike heavyweight T-shirts?
Of course, that's all I wear, yeah.
Do you like oversized T-shirts? I haven't, I haven't grown up.
I haven't like moved past the 90s dude.

(56:03):
OK. Do do you buy?
Do you do you buy Uniqlo? Sometimes, yeah, dude, Uniqlo.
'S got an oversized tea. That's that I've that I've
bought. I've OK, actually I'm wearing
one right now. I've got six or seven of just
the whites, like they're, they're so good.

(56:25):
They're soda and they're, they're 15 blocks.
I'm just like, yo, this is insane.
ASOS. Yeah, I've been on ASOS in a
while, but man, Oh my God, heavyweight teeth.
Nothing made me happier when like, you know, flap, flap run
snapbacks came back into the came back into the thing and I'm

(56:46):
like, oh, got it. It was like crew neck
sweatshirts are back. I'm like, oh, haven't, haven't
stopped wearing them in 30 years.
If you wear them long enough, they come back.
That's beauty. I was so pissed about the hooded
like the zippered hoodies when everyone started wearing those,
I was like, this isn't this isn't a hoodie like a hoodie's
like you need like big comfy, like this thing's supposed to

(57:07):
like hug you. You don't want I don't want a
zipper if you if it's a zipper, No, it's too warm for a.
Sweatshirt. It's yeah, OK Zipper to begin
with is a no, and if it's a metal zipper, hell no.
I'm wearing my hoodies most of the time without a shirt
underneath the hoodie. Yeah, so I.
Think it's supposed to be you ain't.
You're not putting that cold assmetal on my, you know, like.

(57:29):
What are we doing? Yeah, you guys come here for mid
journey advice. You're going to get fashion
advice whether you like it or. You're going to get sunscreen
advice you're going to get. Sunscreen advice, you know.
Avoiding stepping on nail adviceyou're going to get don't break
your toe advice here. Like go through it all.
Here's another plug if you don'tknow about anything that we're
talking about. Nailing the foot advice as well.

(57:51):
We do have a chat buddy for for this.
Look at you. You.
Go find the episode you go go find that.
We have all of our episodes catalogued in here, but that's
we could. Come, we could come up with a
new name too, you know, it doesn't have to be.
Buddy, but I kind of like buddy Buddy Guy.
All right, it goes back to our heavyweights conversation,

(58:13):
another episode that we had in here, you know, go back to the.
Have Drew and Rory ever talked about heavy weights?
Let's see what's. The don't, don't fail me in the
moment. Perfect.
What's going on? Tommy, just like, there we go.
Oh my God, what we done here. Looks like the search tool is

(58:37):
being a bit dramatic. What is going on right?
Now hold on, hold on. Looks like the search tool is
being a bit dramatic and refusing to cooperate.
While I sort that out, I can still break down Omni.
Reference. No, I didn't ask about Omni
reference. Oh my God, here.
We go our our plug. Our plug has gone way wrong.
It died. It died on.

(58:58):
The got off the rails. It's probably chat she would do
though. What are we doing here?
Did was that just like it? Was that just like a, you know,
bot takeover right there? What was?
I've never seen anything that was.
Weird, man. That was like, was that like a
was that like another ChatGPT coming into like monitor

(59:18):
ChatGPT? It was like.
Dude, that was weird. Wasn't.
It this other this other one's refusing to respond was like how
many are? How many of you are there?
I'm having a hard time. Oh, that's a lie.
No, we do it. What?
About Ben Stiller. What about Ben Stiller?

(59:41):
Now now we're now we're know that it know that it's like
there must be some. That was the weirdest response
I've ever seen from ChatGPT. Yes, Ben, Soar.
Definitely came out. Get on the.
Scale. There it is.
They went on nostalgic tangent about heavyweights Conant 1 of
Stiller's early gems. They joked about iconic lines
like get on the scale. Get off the scale, bro.

(01:00:04):
Hey buddy, dude, that's pretty good.
So do your branding without evenknowing your branding at this
point. It's it's very it's just second
nature to you. But the other should we should
we even mention before we beforewe try to do anything else or
should we mention a left or anything like that from from

(01:00:24):
runway? I think that's also, if anyone's
not familiar with that stuff, pretty, pretty big update from
runway video to video editing, which is like, yeah.
While you're talking, go ahead and talk about it, Rory.
I'll I'll pull pull like an example up here somewhere.
So like, you know, Runway's market is definitely the

(01:00:46):
filmmaking and the professional side.
Oh. There's one that Heather.
Here's one that Heather did kindof cool.
It's really cool, like a left. That's the, to me, that's the
coolest thing that it does is that if you have First off #1
it's in a chat, it's in a chat feature.
So like you're, you're doing it within chat.
So it's a lot less like intimidating from like a
prompting or like usability standpoint.

(01:01:08):
But this is the, this to me is one of the coolest things I've
seen to date, which is just likedrop a video in and say, give me
a different perspective. It's like.
'Cause it's kind of like the thealt, it's kind of like the
cousin of what we talked about with the still image, right?
Where it's like this idea that you could drag and rotate and
move up and down and around somesubject or scene.

(01:01:32):
And this is kind of accomplishedthat on the video side, right?
It's it's like almost, you know,this idea of like inversion in a
sense, like you're so focused onwhat you can see, but you're not
thinking about what you can't see, right?
And there was a, there was some photographer for a while that I
mean, stupid but kind of cool atthe same time, where like they

(01:01:54):
would go to famous sites to takephotos of like the famous thing,
but they, they would post the photo of like what's facing the
opposite way of that, right? The environment of it versus
like what everybody goes there to see, you know, and this is
kind of like that, right? It's like, Oh, well, what's, you

(01:02:14):
know, like this this woman's walking down the street, but
like who's behind her? What, what is she looking at in
front of her? Like how high up to these
buildings go, which is kind of like this one with the, with
the, you know, bird's eye or topdown view.
So that's, yeah, it's pretty cool.
You know, like I think this, this is, I mean, I know it's
been getting hyped up, but it's hard to tell, right?
Because we kind of feel like we're in our own echo chamber

(01:02:36):
sometimes with the people we follow.
But this one's worth it. This is this, you know, feels
like one of those like really, really good updates that is
novel and needed. 'Cause like to me, like runway,
this sounds crazy to say this like runway's redemption was was
their image side. Like I, I don't know where it

(01:02:58):
was 'cause I think Gen. 3 got sowas or Jenna.
Gen. 4 was just like so overlooked 'cause it was smashed
in between all these other crazymodels that came out.
And it's not if I'm being honest, it's not as visually
capable as some of the other models, but references is very
good, like it's to me from the the best in context.

(01:03:20):
One image model like I give you one image.
You can create from that image like I.
I. You know, mid journey, I love
you. It's not the, you know, from if
I wanted to put a product in there and go from image to
image, it's not going to happen.And I know that's not their use
case and they don't care about that.
But runway, you know, if you want to have consistency from
scene to scene, if someone's holding a cup that says Steve on

(01:03:41):
it, like that cup needs to be shot to shot.
Like if it's just, you know, random, you know, if you're
trying to tell a story, like sometimes that's just the best
way to do it. Here's a Rory Flynn one.
Now this isn't a left, but this this.
Diagram. But this, this one, I mean, we
didn't even touch on this one. This might have been my favorite

(01:04:01):
one the way this. Lips.
Well, that's if you look at the diagram, right?
So if anyone's not familiar withthis, you can you can basically
take an image in for VO3. You can draw a little diagram on
it and whatever program, Canva, figma, whatever, and sort of
like tell it what to do in the image verse, like writing a

(01:04:24):
really long text prompt. So this one I'm basically like
sending the car. Why don't?
Why don't they natively build that in to these tools though,
right? It's like it works, so why?
Like Runway did that. Like Runway saw what people were
doing with sketch to Image and like built that in.
It's like smart, you know, so this one is basically cars

(01:04:46):
approaching rapidly and then it's like I put the sort of like
the angle where the car would bedrifting around the turn and
then would have it, you know, the third one up there in the
top left says Carl follows the OR camera follows a car around
the turn. This historically is a crazy
hard image to do for any video generator because it it's just
not it's the dimensions are kindof warped, right?
Like it's a it's a crazy, sort of.

(01:05:07):
A lot could go wrong with that. So like providing that plus a
little text prompt like that made it happen and I added three
camera motions in there at the same time saying like pull back,
push in, you know, chase. So that's this one is bringing.
Back most cool for. Us right like it just kind of
put the arrow in there to be like to test the theory which

(01:05:30):
everyone's like I don't know if it's actually doing anything or
it's just a text prompt. It's like, well here we put the
arrow and I said follow the arrow and it followed the arrow.
So it is. You can see you can see that
here. Remove the arrow after one
frame, immediately delete. Yeah, I mean, those are those
are super cool. Here's another one here.
This one was cool because Dave, I think actually took this one

(01:05:51):
was with his phone and then tookthat in like and it's just like
this one was interesting to me because it's like now I could
take literally just a shit videothat you wouldn't even think
twice about and tell a story with a with AI right away.

(01:06:12):
Like, you know what I mean? Like that that was like, OK,
shit, that's kind of crazy. But if you have my.
Profile real quick search I haveI have a couple examples on
here, a few different use cases for for a left.
I did AI just did like quick video.
You might have to scroll througha thread or two here.
It's after this one that right there, the down down the right

(01:06:36):
there with the with the orange car.
So like this is just a way to again, like changing
backgrounds. This is the different
perspective. Same guy with a giant Spartan
helmet. This one I changed myself, but
made myself a clown, right? Like you can change these.

(01:06:56):
You can change like I I was. I was just so impressed with the
change the angle thing, which isto me crazy.
Like even you see here the spearcomes out at the same time on
all three here we're drinking. I'm I'm in a pink tank top and
also a clown. So like there's the only the
only bad thing I will say it's not bad.
It's just things you got to workaround.

(01:07:17):
It's only 5 second output. So that's it.
You can't put a longer video in there.
Expect anything. Best way to get around that is
to speed ramp your video. Oh, if you want to see the
Sydney Sweeney outtakes. I don't know if you saw those.
I I saw those all right. That was, you know, that was I
think that was mini Max that I used here just doing my, my

(01:07:38):
little, you know, rendition on this commercial because why not?
It's you know, I thought the thecar that they used here, of
course was epic. I was like you can have wrong
with the with the Shelby Mustangand just hit that hit that gas
like real quick and I was like the sound was so good in that
commercial and like we all know what we're thinking.

(01:08:01):
But seriously, the sound was really good too.
Did the the left thing is just you're going to see like you saw
Luma respond to it right away. Watch.
Watch that be the cascading effect, like with everyone else
now. Hey, one one other shot before
we go idiogram. Haven't tried that yet, but

(01:08:22):
apparently might have one of thebetter mini Laura train on your
face models there are right now.I've said they can do it.
Said they can do it with one image.
Heard that with heard from a fewpeople.
It says pretty good quality's a little low.
It's, I've heard you have to like it's just the face.

(01:08:45):
So from people who have used it said it's just the face.
It like sort of masks the face and like you can't, it's like
not the, it's like not taking like character for character.
Like it's not the blue shirt andthe Black Hat and everything's
like perfect from one to the next.
Yeah, face is perfect from one to the next, but.
Well, hey, man, we were we were overdue for an ideogram shout
out I I haven't spent one secondin an ideogram, but hey, I

(01:09:08):
that's. Weird, I use it in a movie now.
Like for certain things it's good for certain things.
Like it's not because I'm, I'm testing it on, you know, when I
run stuff in weevie and I run itto like 7 different image
generators. Here's another, here's another
shout out outside of videogram. When I do that a lot of times
the image generator that I really like is Mystic, which is

(01:09:28):
Magnifics image generator. It's been, I've been getting
like banger stuff out of it lately.
To be honest. It's like a.
Really. So I don't know if anyone's
played around with that. I feel like I'm, I feel like
that one sort of gets lost in the fray, but because we're just
using it for upscaling, but I've, I've been really digging
it. It's, it's got some because you

(01:09:49):
can up what you can do it in 4K.It's got some extreme detail and
texture and it's just like a, you know, if anyone's playing
around or wants, you know, try some different stuff.
I'm shouting out Mystic right now.
Yeah. But.
Yeah, I like it. I I mean, I generally like what
what Magnific's been doing. Yeah.

(01:10:09):
But all right, well, let's let'swrap this and, you know, I think
we can kind of see what else we we have coming forth with mid
journey. In the meantime, we've got
plenty of different examples andthings that we can get into that
that go a little bit deeper. But it was fun to kind of like
have some more time with the with the video, the loop, the
end frame, kind of play with some stuff there and you know, I

(01:10:35):
think for. Next week, dude, it'll be
something next week, you know there's.
It'll be something next week. And you know what?
This is just a, if you are stillhere, this is just a reminder
more and more people are jumpingonto this stuff.
There's still so many people that have no idea how to use
this tech. They they're just, they're still

(01:10:55):
learning. They haven't jumped all the way
in. You know, I just think about the
even even I I've got a team of designers on my team, small
team. I mean, I've got one guy really
like pretty deep, kind of deep and everybody else is just
dabbled, you know, but it's justlike you got to you got to dive,

(01:11:16):
you got to dive now like you, you have got to start figuring
this out and we've been talking about that, but it's just like
we are still very early in this game.
And I always think back to that thing that you always mentioned
too. It's like one of the biggest,
you know, advantages or leveragethat you have is being in early

(01:11:38):
and then stacking the knowledge over time versus trying to
digest too much at once. Yeah.
And so I, you know, I think about that a lot.
And yeah, this has been fun. Man, I'm glad we got to catch up
back-to-back weeks. We're not traveling all over the
place. We are not, we're, we're still,
lives are still crazy, but we made time and we're here.

(01:11:59):
So we'll, we'll catch you guys in the next one.
Rory, anything you want to say before we go?
You know, like and subscribe. I got to start saying this at
the beginning, you know. Yeah, we might Out of the way
the YouTube. Thing guys, we might have to do
it just because we have to you know we do the thumbnails now we
we kind of straight away now nowit has now it's a thing so we we
do the you know our weird thumbnails to get the to get the

(01:12:21):
views and the clicks, but you know like and subscribe anything
you guys do helps tell your mom,you know tell your friends tell
whoever tell. Your I like how you say tell
your mom, don't tell your dad, tell your mom.
No Tell your mom about us young guys.
Just two two nice, respectful gentlemen talking about robot

(01:12:42):
art. That's right.
That's. It that's what we.
Did Hey, by the way, with July rapping, we we started this
podcast in July of 24. I want to say it was at the
beginning, maybe I can't remember if it was the beginning
of the end. Either way, we're overdue for a
one year Sally. So we do.

(01:13:02):
Then we have to do a live. Maybe might have to do it one
live. Bring everyone back into the
mix. Let's do it.
Episode 47 wrapping up. We'll catch you guys in the next
one. Rock'n'roll, see ya.