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December 2, 2025 59 mins

Welcome back to Mirror Talk: Soulful Conversations. In this episode, Tobi sits with transformational catalyst and visionary leader Devon Kerns, known widely as the King of Curiosity, Chaos and Stillness. With a remarkable journey shaped by entrepreneurship, ancient wisdom, plant medicine, emotional intelligence and personal loss, Devon carries a presence that both awakens and disarms.


Together they explore:

• How Devon’s Zen rooted quote became the guiding philosophy of his life
• The grief of losing his father and how heartbreak became initiation
• Curiosity, chaos and stillness as a powerful creation model for leaders
• Why AI may be humanity’s greatest evolutionary ally
• How to build businesses that heal people, land and money
• The spiritual role psychedelics have played in his leadership journey
• Presence as the new productivity and the art of simply being
• Conscious parenting in a world where technology, soul and legacy meet
• The soul aligned questions Devon asks himself every day
• A message for anyone standing at the edge of transformation


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Transformation and Curiosity

02:41 The Importance of Relationships and Love

05:16 Overcoming Excuses and Embracing Action

07:59 The Value of the Journey

10:28 Changing Society's Perspective on Life

13:33 Embracing Humanity and Spirituality

16:06 The Impact of Grief and Loss

21:19 Finding Value in Existence

24:59 Chaos, Stillness, and Curiosity in Life

31:24 The Journey of Manifestation

32:22 Embracing Chaos and Finding Stillness

33:45 Curiosity as a Tool for Creation

35:42 Creating from Chaos: A Practical Approach

36:08 Rootedness and Connection to Mother Earth

40:45 The Importance of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership

47:16 Raising Emotionally Intelligent Children

58:32 Finding Presence in Chaos



This is a conversation that invites you to slow down, breathe and see your life with new eyes. If you have been craving a deeper path, a more conscious way of leading or a more grounded experience of being human, Devon’s wisdom will speak directly to your soul.


Connect with Devon:
Website: www.devonkkerns.com


Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/RUOv3jiKPcs 


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