Thanksgiving Mailbag | Fan Questions | Morning Kombat

After filling up on some turkey, fill up on some Morning Kombat, with LT, BC and the crew delivering a Thanksgiving Mailbag episode.

You submitted the questions, the fellas answer them on this special edition of MK.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Really really.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Look at this now tiptop.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh do you want about using?

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Will be luck.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
For it's time to bank?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh yeah, Turkey, Turkey behind us. Hey, it's flat Friday.
Welcome in. It's morning Combat Special Holiday mail bag episode
here on Wednesday or Friday.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Excuse me.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
November twenty eighth, all of the twenty fives. Hopefully you
have been cleared of bail after your assault at Walmart
over that big TV, and you're back to hear this
program Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas offering you a happy holidays.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Here LT.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
We're gonna have fun today. We're gonna hear from the
damn people. And if they didn't already know, let me
tell them. Today's episode of MK presented by DraftKings and
you know DraftKings, the crown, it's yours, it's yours, LT. Well,
in the space time continuum, we are recording this full
disclosure before Thanksgiving? How was your Turkey day, Luke?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm gonna guess it was pretty good because I will
have gone to my brothers. Who is It's tough to
say who's the best cook in the family between him
and my sister.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Maybe my sister. But if she's one A, he's one B.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
He's right there, and he's certainly very very very good,
and I'll probably have been high the whole time. So yeah,
that's great. That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
By the way, they don't know how good you cook
when it comes to MMA hot takes Luca. Okay, you know,
if only they.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Get that Walk Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, waka waka.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
We appreciate you taking time out of your holiday weekend
to deal with us here. We did put out the
call to you at Morningcombat at gmail dot com the
email so very shortly we will get to all of
your mail bag questions in written form and video form.
We truly appreciate the effort you guys put in to
help make this show fun for you today. Also want

(02:28):
to tell you, speaking of Black Friday, it's going on
right now. It already started. We're in the midst of it. Yes,
the Black Friday Morning Combat merch sale. Who would have
thought this was coming? You see those percentages off head
to Morningcombat dot shop right now we're cleaning out the inventory.
Twenty five percent off t shirts, fifty percent off posters.

(02:54):
November twenty sixth to November thirtieth is the sale. If
you ever wanted to wear our clothes but said, nah, bra,
that price a little bit too high. Today is your chance,
jump on it. I mean, look, there's a couple things
in there that we don't sell anymore. They must be
grabbing the one or two left on the shelf, so again.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
The inventory is getting quite thin. This is the chance.
This is the window. We're just giving this stuff away
for free. So go get it and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, wrap your family in it. It'll be fantastic for you.
We'll have a special guests on today's program. Hold on, hey,
it's Reggie Jay. Welcome, it's Reggie Jet. Oh wow, we're
squirmersh today. Yeah right, buddy, you're good, you're good. All right,
there we go. Look, no, no jokes about the end

(03:41):
of his life.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Okay, he's uh, he'll be the first one.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
He's doing a good enough job making enemies at home
and eating the Christmas tree, which you know inevitably makes
him ill.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
So that does he eat or do you guys put
ten souls in there?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's a fake tree that has fake snow on it,
and he can't stop eating the fake snow. A real tree,
even with the bitter apple spray on it. We used
to use a real tree, but my son has asthma,
so it is an issue with that. That is that,
Speaking of extra members of our team, let's tell hello
to the third member. He's a producer, director, Bong enthusiasts

(04:16):
coming at you hot and heavy on Black Friday. Straight
out of that Ausse's testy, it is Luke noseda excuse me,
Luke Thomas Noceda of the main card minute, how are.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
You for it?

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I'm doing great, guys, I'm full from all that Thanksgiving food.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
I'm hungover probably, and.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Most importantly, we got the prop Quiz Championship out BC
versus Jose Young's dropping right after this episode today, so
make sure you tune into that.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
It is a banger. I'm assuming we haven't recorded I win.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We haven't filmed yet.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
Did I win?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Luke?

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Probably right, I'm going to assume.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
You did I win.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
If you didn't, you're dead to me.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Well, I'm not the favorite.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I'm not the betting favorite against Young's.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know you never have been, but here you are.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (05:00):
At what a ride? What a journey?

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I just have to close my door from Reggie.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Luke.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why don't you tell people some nice holiday greetings?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
All right, my daughter made me a card.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Y'all want to see the car.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's a castle.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Oh that's great, that's great.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
That's a castle.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
I don't know why it's got a cat face on
it for no particular reason. But we're not we're not
judging based on literalism here, you know what I'm saying.
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
She would love Reggie Jackson.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
By the way, my daughter loves cats. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
What do they call them in us?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
In Espanolo?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Gotto gotto?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
There you got.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
All right, let's get into the fun here. We put
off the call to you. We're gonna alternate written questions
video questions. I have no by the way, we have
not screened these.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
I have no idea. We've not seen I'm not I've
not seen anything. So this is all, you know, no
vasoline just to match in a little bit of gasoline,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh yeah, one more thing. If you want to follow
the show, how that like, subscribe all that stuff. We
do this show twice a week. It's been around for
six plus years. Make it your permanent destination. Thank you
very much. All right, Reggie is optional, He'll be here sometimes.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
First question of the Black Friday from our friend Colin.
He says, I have a question about quote wins aging well,
do you think that there should be a limit on
how far back we consider a win a good win?
For example, people say Connor McGregor has a win over
Max Holloway. But the Max that fought Connor fought, the

(06:36):
Max that fought Connor, and the Max that fought justin
Gatchee are clearly not the same, barely not the same person.
I feel like after a period of time it becomes
totally disingenuous to say that wins are aging. Well, Luke Thomas,
this can you can also flip this date around when
a fighter will be an aging name well past their prime,

(06:58):
and you may say, well, ten years from now, people
may not remember that they beat this person well past
their prime. What do you think about the idea of
a ah? What's that word of limits?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Upper bound limits?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
No?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like if I you know, if Luke, if you touch
someone but like eight years past, they can't arrest.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
The statute to limitations?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on both?

Speaker 4 (07:23):
On both?

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Kay?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
If I am acting rapie in the workplace, but no
one snitches on me. What do they call that?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
You can answer about essay or about MMA.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
Look your choice. I mean, I think there's actually a
lot to this question. It's actually pretty good. The answer
is quite obviously there is there are there are limits
to how well a win ages, but it can still
retain some interesting value even if it doesn't retain the
same value. So let me give you an example. B
see Maurice Smith beating Mark Coleman. This is not a

(07:55):
thing that's relevant to the current state of the heavyweight division,
and it doesn't rank as one of the most meaningful
in terms of a ranking position. I mean it was
in terms of the championship. But what I mean to
say is there are ways in which this is not
a win that holds up as like the division's best,
but it holds critical importance because it was the first
time that we really saw on high level MMA, particularly

(08:16):
in the heavyweight division, someone from a kickboxing background to
feed a wrestler that was like at the time that
it had not really happened hardly at all, if at all,
and certainly not to Mark Coleman in that way. And
so that was a really big deal. It has historical
relevance or even you know, some of Hoys Gracie's wins
that may not look like it means anything, and it's
not a win that holds up as like a value
for today. But at the time in which he did it,

(08:38):
and for the reasons why it was important, then we
should still not lose.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sight of that.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Now that these are not necessarily exactly what the guy
is asking, but these are kind of all related in
terms of like a win. You know, let's use the
example that he did where people who are still kind
of in the fight game. When you have Connor and Max.
Clearly the significance of that win wanes over time. But
I don't think it's just time itself, like the passage
of it that makes it that way. It's that those

(09:03):
guys became something very different, visibly and measurably over the
course of their career. So it still means something to
me that McGregor beat a very green Max Holloway, but
at the time in which they met, where their careers intersected,
it gives you some indication of just kind of the
speed at which Connor McGregor was moving up the food chain.

(09:25):
I think at the same time, though, OBC would that
go the way if they fought today, how would that go?
I think most of us would probably pick Max. So yes,
clearly there is an expiration series of ways in which
it diminishes. Absolutely the reverse. By the way, BC can
also be true. Wins can age better over time that

(09:45):
are not appreciated in the moment in which they happen.
I think that's also a thing that can happen. But
of course these things are all you know, they can
it's food in the fridge or the freezer.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
It can hold for a good long while.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
But like anything, there's limits of this kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I mean, you couldn't. We were running off the achievements
of Conor McGregor, and so if somebody said, you know,
explain to me why he's a Hall of Famer or
one of the all time greats, you wouldn't lead with
the Holloway win. But it needs to be included because
it happened, and that gentleman he fought and defeated turned
out to be a legend. Regardless. I wonder if, like,
could you even discount a win like Amanda Newness is

(10:22):
the goat as we record this, right now and you're
not going to take that away from her for one fight.
But what does that Rhonda rousey win really mean in hindsight,
knowing how compromised Honda, howse he was in that one,
that she was done done done.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean, I mean that was kind of obvious,
Like I took that. I mean, to me, she sent
a broken person at that time, not only you know,
I don't want to be smirch her current state. I
think she's done a lot of healing, but at that time,
you know, kind of a broken person. She sent up
her center packing from the sport. I mean, that's that
was the significance. Was the balance of power shifting, not like,

(10:58):
oh did she fight the toughest MMA test.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know, that's fair. I just don't like when you
when if a fighter and we try to highlight this
when we look back on people's resumes, maybe there's a
fighter that didn't become what they could have, but at
the time that they fought somebody, they were absolutely dangerous
and legit, and that needs to be remembered, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yes, yes, I mean, but this is also to the
point about, like again going back to the one that
this person used this Connor and Holloway comparison. This is
why rematches are meaningful. And I don't just mean, oh,
there was a fight, it was close to have an
immediate rematch. Those have a certain kind of importance to
you know, like showgun versus machetah or something.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
But I don't mean in that way. I mean like.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Years later, BC, these two meet again and then you
get it. Sometimes you've seen it in boxing a million
times too, I'm sure where you get a different result.
And it's like, right, people change over the course of
their career. So for one person, let's say, to dominate both,
that would be a big deal, or for them to
be you know, mismeatch results like.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Tito Ortiz's win over Chuck Ladell on the Golden Boy
MMA banner not really holding up right right.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
And that's another one where it's like did you beat
a great name? Sure, sure, but it doesn't mean the
same thing as when you tried to fight him or
duck him rather than fought him. At UFC forty seven,
what was UFC forty seven called? Here's why my brain
is just absolute trash. Can't remember a single APEX card?
Remember how they used to have names like sudden impact
and dick and balls. It was, it was, it's on,

(12:26):
It's on, It's island. Now it's off, It's off.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, let's call our first video question sent in by
a fella named Marcus.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yo Luke BC and Long Island Luke. We never know
how FI will actually play out. However, most fans and
analysts will pick a legend to beat another fighter in
any hypothetical matchup, even though we know that that one
will always happened. Israel out of signing lost to Sean Strickland,
and nobody, for the most part, predicted that what fighter

(12:57):
would give a legend the hardest fight and actually be
able to beat them, even though.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
No one would predict that.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Armand versus Habib, Yahya, Roriguez versus Auto, Steve Bay versus Fador.
I'm asking you to pick what fighter could win a
matchup against the legend that nobody would expect them to beat.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Enjoyed the thought experiment.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I like this thought experiment, Luke. It's sort of sometimes
like the evolution of the sport. We do this a
lot in heavyweight boxing, where we're like, you know, could
today's guys shine the shoes of the resume and legend
of Joe Lewis and Rocky Marciano.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
But what happens if you put five foot ten Rocky
Marciano in the ring with six foot nine Tyson Fury
or even six foot sevn Deontai Wilder? What happens, Luke? Right?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Like?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
That changes the equation, although that's not necessarily what this gentleman,
and thank you Marcus for the question is asking do
you think there are fighters that we may be consider
regular or you know one champions that you're like, but
in history they would have mopped the floor. I mean,
maybe MMA is different because heavyweight boxing ages in reverse,

(14:08):
almost like Benjamin Button, except for the dawn of the
super heavyweights. That changes the equation. But MMA has aged
in a normal pattern where every generation the skills get
added so aggressively that it's like, could the first ten
heavyweight champions beat any heavyweight today? Well? Maybe heavyweight's a
bad example, because heavyweight sucks, Luke, But I guess you get.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I've got one for you. I got one.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
And the reason why I can say this is because
I've thought a lot about this. It is hard to
appreciate this now, and if you came to the sport
relatively recently. It's you're just never gonna feel this way
about him. But I'm trying to explain to people when
bj Penn was on top of the sport, and that
specific meaning is when he was UFC lightweight champion. Because

(14:50):
he had high moments in a bunch of other places
for different reasons, but to me, that was the very
best version. You have to understand what that meant, and
what that meant was he had. Even Freddie Roach talked
about it. He had the most powerful, best job in
the sport, at least one of them he had. Remember,
he was the first American to win the world championships
in jiu jitsu in the black belt division, which he did,
you know with that after four years, like an insane

(15:12):
he just didn't They remember he was called the prodigy.
That was the absolute best term for him. He was
heavy handed, he was absolutely unafraid of contact, and over
time his takedown defense was considered the gold standard in
the sport, like he had for a moment in time,
the very best takedown defense. And the reason why I
say all this is because at that moment he also

(15:34):
fought George Saint Pierre in a rematch in a championship
fight up at one seventy. He had fought Saint Pierre
previously in a three rounder in a USA versus Canada
UFC card, and in the three rounder Penn fucked him
up early but kind of faded down the stretch. And
so the whole idea that this rematch was, yes, Penn
was going up to seventy, but A he'd already been

(15:54):
a champion up at seventy, and b look at him now,
like he has cleaned up all the things that had
kind of legged him, even for somebody so insanely talented
in the past. Oh and by the way, he had
a rock chin like you just couldn't be hurt.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So like dude, b J.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Penn and his very best was to me, the closest
I've ever seen a human to be a superhero like
it was. It's just absurd you really understand how good
he was. So all of that is to say he
did get out wrestled ultimately by Saint Pierre, not like
aggressively so, but convincingly so now it makes me wonder
BC it can be done. But obviously Saint Pierre was

(16:30):
a the best Walters weight of all time and obviously
a big one seventier. How would bj Penn in his
absolute prime versus Habib go? What would that look like?
How long could he fight that off in a twenty
five minute round? You know that's a fair question.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I mean you could sometimes this question isn't about eras
and the changing of abilities. It could just be about
this matchup styles. Does somebody have a like Hamzat Chremaiev
right now as the middleway champion? Is that a really
bad matchup for Anderson Silva, the greatest middleweight champion of
all time? Look, I'm asking.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
You who against Silva?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Haamsama?

Speaker 6 (17:06):
Oh Jamsa?

Speaker 4 (17:06):
It's probably a bad matchup. I saw someone talking about this.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Who was it?

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Oh God, I forget who I saw this. They were
making the argument and there's it's not there's ways to
argue around this, but it's worth least thinking about. Are
today's the current crop of UFC champions right now? Take
a snapshot? Is this the best most talented crop of
UFC champions of all time? And an overall ability? And

(17:33):
you can make the argument that it is. You can
absolutely look at the situation and say these are Have
they done as much as Anderson Silva, well, no, I
mean he did a lot, but head to head, what
would that look like? I mean, how would you not
pick Jamia if he can wrestle and he's got good
grappling defense and submission defense in ways that Anderson Silva

(17:54):
has just never even seen before. So yeah, yeah, take
that seriously.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I mean, the constant eve of the game moving further
away from the specialist era. Maybe a guy like GSP
was able to dominate so much because he was one
of the first, if not the first, just completely well
rounded prototype mixed martial artists. But now that's your baseline
if you want to be great in many instances except
for head movement and striking defense. Luke, that's yet to

(18:20):
catch up with the elite across the board. But I mean,
we're starting to get to the point where I'm gonna
favor Islam Mahachev against anybody that can make weight against him.
In history, We're starting to get to that point.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I don't think that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I don't don't just a case that the fact that
Islam is one of the greats and is joining that now,
or if the sport has evolved so much him being
the point of proving that that. Yeah, it's an interesting question.
Thank you for it, Marcus. Let's keep on going down
the line. We're gonna hear now from a fellow called Marco.
He says, Hey, Luke in BC, got a question for

(18:53):
your mail bag. Which weight class do you think has
evolved the most? Well, these questions are all in saying here, Luke,
which way class do you think has evolved the most
over the last decade in terms of skill and overall
talent and what caused that division to level up faster
than the others? For context, when you look at things today,

(19:15):
one thirty five is packed with fast, well rounded high
IQ fighters. One forty five has gotten way more technical
with cleaner striking and movement. One fifty five mixes both
striking and grappling at a really high level. One seventy
is deeper and more complete than it ever used to be.
Seeing how these divisions look now, I'm curious which one
you think made the biggest leap compared to a decade ago.

(19:39):
Appreciate you both love the show.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
I can tell you the women's divisions have done the
most degrading or you know, decomposition. I'm not sure what
the word would be.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
But well, straweight has decomposed, but the other I mean,
this is the best time Flyway was ever by.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Fila fly Yeah, Flyway, you're right now by the way Way.
Bansom weight no Bansomwaight is buns.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
A good point. I think, like the only male divisions
that have probably gotten worse in some ways due to
a lack of talent or light heavyweight and heavyweight.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, light heavyweight and heavyweight are just gigantic declines. One
thirty five has gotten a lot better. One twenty five
has gotten I mean, he got fucked up for a while,
but I think it's at this point reconstituted overall as better.
You know, I think all the divisions have improved, So
we're talking about like them. You're not in all divisions,

(20:32):
I'm sorry, other than the ones we've mentioned. I think
the rest have improved, either modestly or more. But I
would say the biggest leap for me would probably be
twenty five or thirty five. Yeah, I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'll give you that. And I think all the all
the divisions sort of run into each other. As the
answer to this question of like they're all evolving at
rapid pace, what makes that happen the same thing people
are complaining about in my opinion about Islam and Tremiah's
wrestling right now, it's one person was out of Sonia
with strike him Middleway. It's one person taking one element
of the game and raising it up that it forces

(21:05):
everybody else to play catch up in that one area.
And then you have evolution. Luke, you know it's evolution, baby, right?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Evolution baby?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah therek you thank you very much for that. We
have a fellow known as Danger Mouse, a longtime friend
of the show from the UK. He's part of the
Just Bleed Radio boys and Luke you know we've recovered
from that falling out ahead of the London trip. I
really don't remember what happened, but I do love me
some Danger Mouse. Is he going to show his face?
Let's see.

Speaker 8 (21:34):
I have you pair of wa washed bleeders, Danger Mouse
hear from Just Bleed Radio where we're still waiting for
that interview. B say, at this rate, we might have
to offer your shot to Luke.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
You work for Luke Now.

Speaker 8 (21:43):
I really want to act a Dakota Ditch of a question,
but I come to think of a good one. So
my question is there are now ten male double champs, Randiktua,
bj Penn, Joe Sempierre, Daniel Comier, Colin McGregor, Henry sa Hudo,
John Jones, Alex Preira, Ilio Tuporia, and of course, most
recently is Makachev put the minota.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Wor's the best, least impressive? Is the most impressive?

Speaker 8 (22:09):
However you really want to word it, I don't mind cheers, guys,
hopefully talk to you in person. So shout out to
all the dunks in the chat room.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I do uh just pleaed radio that appearance. I gotta
get that done.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, Danger Mouse, thank you for the time put into creating.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
That is a hard question, and the question, I.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Mean, look, how do you define how you're going to
define this?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah? Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Is it like who was more impressive in the two
weight classes they toppled?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
So I know I have a way, I have a
way to yes. I mean, here's someone brought this up
to me.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
It's like, hey, didn't JDM have like an insanely difficult
first title defense? You got to fight the best guy
in the goddamn sport, Like that's not easy. And someone
had asked me in my live chat like what's another
example of one? And I was like, it wasn't the
same as that. But for example, JDMS sorry Junior Docentos,
jds's first title defense after beating Kane was actually remember

(23:02):
because King was really fucked up? Was Kane again? But
this time it was completely healthy Kane and he got
destroyed as a consequence, Right, So like.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
What I wanted dead wrong? That didn't JDS defend the
belt against Frank Murr first?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
He might have.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Okay, let's imagine a world where Kape Alaskaz was the
first Either way, you see what I'm saying, Like, evaluate
the way in which they became champ, not just by
the wind that they got there, but who had beaten
the very best guys and and claimed titles in those
weight classes by to the extent we for the first question,

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whose wins have kind of like held up over time?
What did it mean to beat those guys both at
that moment and in a lasting way? I mean, I
would say, like for me, shudos Uh one is probably
gonna be a little bit lower on the list.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Do you downgrade Connor only as a result of how
successful he was? Meaning that he one punched all though?
And we never really got to see what that fight
would it turned into, and then he forced Eddie off
of his wrestling and kind of just you know, Snake
charmed him.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, I don't think so. I think Connor's is gonna
be a little bit higher. People are gonna hate this,
but I put Potons a little bit lower, not at
the bottom, but maybe at the bottom has.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well considering the lack of MMA experience when he came in.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, but again it's who he beat. How difficult was
it to beat the guys that he beat? Yes, obviously difficult,
but we're talking about the very best male champ champs
number one.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Long I look as a great query. Do we discount
Daniel Cormier because he never beat John Jones for either
of those?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Again, it's not about that, it's who did he beat?
What do you value that at?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, then who is the most impressive two division champion
based on this criteria?

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I mean, one thing you have to consider is the
weight that Katre gave up to become heavyweight champion is
no bullshit and did it twice.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
By the way.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
He was a champion early in the UFC thirties era,
which he eventually lost to Josh Barnett and then came
back in the UFC sixties and then off retirement after
getting slept by Chuck Hoddell back to back, came out
of retirement and beat the fuck out of Tim Sylvia,
who is a goof but was a gigantic goof, a
true ogre. I don't know, I only why don't you

(25:23):
pop in here?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Even though Bisping was a weak champion, GSP was retired
for five years, moved up in wait and won the belt.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I got to put that up high, dude, what do
you think?

Speaker 5 (25:32):
I feel like it might be recency biased, but like
in today's modern UFC, Islam has to be like top
of the list here, just do it in fifty five
and one seventy in the year twenty twenty five.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Like that's kind of fucking wild.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's up there.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I'm looking at a graphic that's missing a few. It's
an older graphic and it has a Manda nouonas on it.
And I know we're talking men only, so there's a
few I'm blanking on right now.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
But uh, I mean, I know it's it's apples and oranges,
but good lord, I mean, who she I mean you know,
Mishaute and Chris Cyborg like that's that's pretty uh, But
I get it's a different world over there, all right,
who's the most impressive mail you're gonna offer? Maybe Islam,
I mean has got big names in doing that, and

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he knocked out in the first round Charles Olivera and
Alexander Volkanowski.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I mean he was up there, BJ Penn two, I
mean BJ Penn beat Matt Hughes and then who did
he beat?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
So he beat a bunch of guys. Obviously.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Jens Pulver was an early one of those Diego Sanchez.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
San Shirk for the wealth.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
He beat the fuck out of Sean Shirk. So, I
mean he by the way that that's a name that
modern fans won't know. Beating Sean Shirk was a big deal.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
St Peter early p D guy, right, big time. I mean,
I don't know what the muscle shark really was doing,
but he certainly looked the part.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
He wasn't eating for taste, Luke, I'll tell you that
it's right.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
So also Saint Pierre's I think up there in that
middle ground, yeah, I probably put poets on somewhere in
the middle ground.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I think, and then towards the bottom.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
So GSP and Randy Cooter in the top four, right.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
With Islam and who else? Ilia?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Maybe because he finished everybody too. That's the other part.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Connor Connor finished all that.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Connor's up there too. Yeah, yeah, I want to.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Take it away from him because the ease at which
he won both of those kind of didn't allow us
to see how he would really do against them. But
then again, they had their chance and he knocked him out. Looks,
so what are you going to do?

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Yeah, all right, all right, I've given it as much
thought as I possibly can. Yeah, Lucas, Lucas done.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Let's move on. Here's mad, he says Luke and BC.
I've been wondering this one for a while. Kelvin Gasolam
is one of my favorite fighters, says Matt. Do you
think if he were more disciplined that he could have
spent the most of his career at one fifty five?
I feel like even at one seventy he carried a
bit of loose change. I think this is an automatic

(28:10):
one million percent, right, Luke, I mean he.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Would have been best suited for a one sixty five division.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
True, but if he would have had the discipline to
keep the body weight down. The idea that he has
wrestling an incredible chin and he's a Southpaul who can
box and can land hard. Yeah, I mean, we saw
the best of him in that Anasanya interim middleweight title bout,
but he was an undersized middleweight for the majority of
his run, and he clearly lacked the elite level discipline

(28:38):
when it came to the constant weight misses, and to
the writer's point here, the fact that he has carried
loose change at middleweight for a long time.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm less convinced by the what
ifs on this one. I mean, I think you would
have gone further than he did, I mean by in
important ways, but.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Become champion, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I mean, that is a lightweight era that's gonna be
tough on him. And how with the with those weight cuts,
even with discipline, have taken away from the from the
stamina of his game, from his.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Or his or his considerable chin.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
You know, that's that's also a fair point.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Those things do need to be considered, all right. Our
next thank you Matt for that question. Our next video
question comes from Louisville's finest, I believe, unless there's anyone
else known as Saul.

Speaker 9 (29:25):
When I say mk all day, this is what I mean.
I have to sit from church way too many for
one man. Uh, you can't get this one. No more
promotional math practice anyway. What are y'all's favorite seasonal treats?
I love the Little Debbie treaty cakes.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay, first of all, Luke, as we always.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's asane, that's insane.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
His commitment to the brand is just phenomenal. I love that. Wow.
All right, Luke's seasonal treat favorites. You know the pumpkins
spy slatte type of things here that only come out.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Are you a.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Pumpkin beer guy?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
No, never happened.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
No.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I tried to be a pumpkin beer guy. I couldn't
do it. There's one beer I've had that was pretty good.
This was a long time ago. I don't know if
it's even still around. Pump King You ever had that?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah? See, the thing is when you dial up the aggression,
Like I love a high level double ipa that has
like some form of citrus taste to it. But there
are some where they dial up the aggression of the
flavor that they're promoting so much that the spices and
sugar are gonna cause me to have a headache much faster.
And I'm like, do I really want this much, this

(30:37):
extreme pumpkin taste? You know what I mean? I like, no,
I don't.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
I want to point out I was making videos for
Espionation in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen telling people that
IPA's double IPAs were the grossest shit on earth, and
I have historically oh no, no no, I got insane
pushback at the time. Only for ten years later every
fucking content creator on ig making the exact same point.
I'm like, I was ahead of you bitches by over

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a motherfucking decade.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Those are the next generation people who are not growing
up with the craft beer revolution. Like people don't understand.
When you and I first started drinking beer, our options
were American lagger like that was freaking it, okay, gross
piss the same beer the Long Island Luke drinks purposely
every weekend, all right. Then we lived through the beginning
of this craft revolution, and you had different options, and

(31:23):
you had really good ambers, and you had really good porters,
and you had this. Then we lived through the absolute
ipa craft beer. Oh my god, we're drinking gourmet shit,
you know what I mean? Treehouse Brewery where we're traveling
across the country to get one can of Alchemist or
Pliny the Elder on the West Coast.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Pliny the Elder butt overrated beer alchemist, Teddy Topper, let's
go BC.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
You know, people want to talk shit about your palette
with melons and stuff, but you got a great palette
for beer there, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
So here's what's happening.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
He has the palate of a tather and then drinks
this absolute nonsense. No, here's why I have indicas. There's
a common denominator there.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Influencers today are not part of that era. So rightfully
they're going, Wait, we can legally get weed, or we
could take great care of ourselves. Why are we gonna,
you know, hang out.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
In the wood. No, it's because it tastes that, and
it's always tasted bad.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
It is it is.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
It is hard on the palate. It is not pleasing
to don't have.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
A sophisticated enough palate to be able to handle the
craft of it. It's the same thing with certain you know, music, Luke, you.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I mean, I like all kinds of music.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
I don't spend time necessarily like apportioning my free time
to artistically take it in, but I don't necessarily dislike
it in the ways you might imagine.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
All right, I mean we could be different people. You
can't make me like cucumber or pickles, which are cucumber
and drag Luke, I want.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
You to know that, all right, Yeah, you need to
because they're delicious. Also, more to the point, you know,
the older I get, it's like, don't get me wrong,
I have certainly there's a there's a beer locally, and
it might even be an ipa, but it's like, it's pretty,
it's pretty mild relatively speaking, called Raised by Wolves. I
can have one glass of Raised by Wolves and it's
basically fine. It's even quite quite pleasant at times. But

(33:02):
as a general rule, the order I get I feel like,
and Anthony Bordain made this point, He's like, what is
the for example, BC, And it's a different thing than
I'm just trying to enjoy a nice beer versus I'm
trying to pair a beer with a nice thing to eat.
But what I would say is Anthony Bourdain has made
this point, which was, if you're gonna eat, for example,
you're gonna go eat Chinese food, not even just take out,
but like even halfway decent Chinese food. Like what kind

(33:24):
of beer is gonna marry best with that? And the
answer is it's gonna be your standard kind of you know,
ordinary pilsner. Like that's just what it's gonna be. And that,
to me, is a much more refreshing experience overall than
just trying to muddle through triple dogfish head ip a,
fuck your mom, going to assassinate your palette with bullshit

(33:46):
and dog piss?

Speaker 2 (33:47):
All right, you're going too far, but I get it.
I mean, I get the premise of what you're saying,
but let's just not act like lucas sophisticated in every category.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
No, I'm not in every category, but you're just wrong
about beer. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I mean, you know what it comes to, like music,
death metal, hygiene. You know you're sometimes on the outside
look at it.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Just because I like farting in your mouth does not
make me on hedge.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do you want to answer Sowl's question?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Is there some so we do the pumpkin thing? I
don't know about that. So what are some other ones?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
What are like?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
What are like other Okay, so think of food that
like only comes out Christmas time or whatever, you.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Know, Easter?

Speaker 4 (34:19):
What about Easter? I mean it's just more candy, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
A lot of it is candy based. I mean you
know when those when those mini eggs start coming out, Luke, Right.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
You know, Oh, the Cadbury I do, like, I mean,
I haven't had a Cadbury egg and I don't know
how long, but like when I was a kid, the
Cadbury eggs, those were like the king shit for Halloween
or sorry Easter. I don't drink pumpkin spice lattes, as
I mentioned, I don't drink pumpkin beer really long Island, Luke,
What are we missing? What are some holiday foods and

(34:47):
treats that are relevant here?

Speaker 6 (34:49):
If we're talking like this time of year, you gotta
go like cinnamon e stuff, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh, meat pie, you gotta go, meat pie, you gotta go.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I'll do hot chocolate with marshmallows for like Christmas or
like my dog or likes to go get it. It's
a fun little thing that we do.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
All right, that's a fair basic one. But yeah, I'm
trying to think of what else is like specifically tied
to a certain holiday or season that we, for whatever reason,
don't get the other months of the year.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
You know, are there July fourth treats because everyone associates
it with like beer, hot dogs, that kind of burger.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, like I've been eating hot dogs since the beginning.

Speaker 9 (35:22):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, I mean that's probably the only time I'll willingly
drink shitty beer, you know, outside with the can in
the hand, you know, with all the yeah, you know America, baby. Yeah,
maybe I.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
Feel like Christmas has all of them because you have
you have all the cookies you can eat, you have
all of the things you can drink, and the food
and the merriment.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I feel like that's your that's really the Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
My my grandmother always made chocolate cream pie on Thanksgiving
and Christmas, and it was you never had it the
rest of the year, and it was, oh, yeah, that's great,
love it, love it, Thank you, Mima. R I p
all right, let's go to Jacob. He says, how would
you match everyone up at one? Here's Jacob's idea. Luke Volkanovski,
Laron Murphy Mulvsar versus usev zlal Diego Lopez versus Yaeir,

(36:10):
al Joe versus Steve Garcia, and bonus question what would
be the odds for each fight? He's asking us a
lot here, Luke, how would you match up the top
end of the UFC featherweight division right now? Would it
align with what Jacob just laid out?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
So I'm looking at the matchups here. Vulc versus Larone,
Moulvsar versus the Law, Diego versus Yair. That's a that's
the Diego versus Yaya is a Yes' vote me yes
on that? Aljo versus Steve Garcia.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't hate that.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
By the way, they just announced that for the first
paramount on UFC card in January's there's rumors that it's
going to be Arnold Allen against Lord Silva, which is
a great.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Fight, Luke, great fight, phenomenal fight.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
It's forty five.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I would do I mean whatever we want. I would do.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Vulcan versus Mauvesar.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Okay, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I do Loon?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
I do Loroon versus Aljo and versus Steve Garcia.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Okay, Okay, what do you think the odds would be.
Let's just talk about the title level Long Island. Look
can chime into Vulk versus Murphy. What are your odds
for that Long Island?

Speaker 5 (37:22):
I'd go vulc minus one fifty sorry, minus one seventy
five larone plus one fifty something like that.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Look, do you give Mostar better odds than he just
gave Laron?

Speaker 3 (37:33):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
About the same?

Speaker 2 (37:34):
All right, all right, They're both the same challenge, just
in different wrapping paper ultimately in different styles makes them
not the same at all. Luke, all right, you're saying
they got the same chance. Okay, that's what they got,
which is no chance. I don't know. I think Vulk's vulnerable.
I don't know if he gets past another title defense.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well, if it's Moulsar, I think he could.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
If it's a striker, I'm like, you know, that is
also interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Most Star is like jacked cut ripped in the gym.
He's got to develop a singularly dominant finishing skill, does
he not?

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Who's this again?

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm sorry, move Loev.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
He's been gone along enough where I'm kind of curious
to see what else he's put together.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You know, maybe nothing by the.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Way your boys. Shavkat was on Areial. He said, uh,
end of February, maybe March.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
He's ready.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
He's ready, Luke, It's it's time.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
The king is back.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
All right, there we go.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
We have another video question from someone named Sidney Luke.
Will this be a male or female?

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Do we have male viewers?

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Come on, brother, let's be serious.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
Okay, So my question is more of an opinion that
I want to get your guys' take on. I feel
like the issue with specialists in the UFC is that
they don't spend enough time game planning around whatever they're
best at. If you contrast that with Islam or Krabev's
team in general, they know that wrestling is their core,
and they look at different ways to really put that

(38:58):
game plan into place, like using like kicks against JDM
or other types of things that then set up the takedowns.
In addition to them having different types of takedowns, other
people who come into with high bad degrees of wrestling
other things assume the wrestling will be their game plan,
their striking or game plan they're grappling. So I feel
like that that's going to be potetually a problem anytime
you're a special if you don't game plan to implement

(39:20):
your specialty and just assuming will be there. Also, PC,
you have not been live streaming, you have been rambling,
and I've been listening to some new music.

Speaker 11 (39:28):
I want to get your opinions on.

Speaker 12 (39:29):
So hopefully you come back soon.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Yeah, bitch, get to work.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah yeah, it's about time I get back to work.
H Sid, Thank you Sid for that question. He looks
like a guy with good cable management. Luke, But what
did you think about his question regarding game planning specialism
all that?

Speaker 6 (39:46):
So? I think.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Like bow Nicol might be an example of that too,
right where he's like, you know, the wrestling will just
be there, how much thought you have to put into
the component pieces around it? I think it's a in general,
a very trenchant opser. What I would say, though, is
I would also argue like it's not necessarily a limiting
factor either in certain cases like okay, here's a great example.
Hamsa Chremaiah always is clear he's like, I don't game plan.

(40:13):
I don't game plan at all, And it's because he
has developed such a skill level and an ability over
his peers that he trusts so completely that he doesn't
need to to capture a UFC title. So what I'm
going to say though, is that will eventually catch up
with him. I mean, again, you can be so talented
that you can get away from these other factors. The

(40:34):
one I'm trying to make is he's clearly got enough
skill to win a UFC title without game planning really
around what he's doing. On the other hand, I think
that the reason that Habib and his team have had
the success that they've had is that I look at
their focus on building the composite pieces around their core
identity as a function of having been taught how to

(40:56):
do coaching at a high level. In other words, that
kind of thinking about your game is another kind of
skill that you have to nurture and develop, and they
have by virtue of the circumstances of Abdulma not being there,
Abib getting out taking on that mantle, but having the
influence of like dissecting games, that's its own separate kind

(41:17):
of skill set, and the very best teams and the
very best coaches and the very best fighters to an
extent obviously as well, they kind of developed that over
time and that for me, it can change your upper
bound limit. But what it also can really do is
maintain longevity, whereas hamzat if once the game catches up
a little bit or he begins to wane physically and

(41:38):
you don't really have an identity about what you're going
to do and what you're going to build around that
will catch up with you. I mean again, not in
like some kind of like, oh it will ruin his career. No,
but there might be a loss in his future that
shouldn't have happened but for the fact that he never
really exercised these muscles.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Do you think more people will follow the glover to
share a game plan which is was considered a you know,
elite boxer with a good ground game. When he went
to the title level against John Jones, we kind of
counted them out after a couple of losses, particularly that
UFC two oh two devastation delivered by Rumble Johnson. Yeah,
he completely stayed with it, reimagined himself wins a title

(42:17):
in his early forties, completely built around going back to
the basics of his bread and butter and making himself
a better and more lights out wrestler and submission expert.
That's how he built longevity, Luke, and he's also Brazilian
in a maniac in the best ways, and that was
a great chance.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
I mean, I think you have to build around what
comes natural to you, rather than one style works the
best or one I mean, there's, of course there's going
to be a shared set of best practices. Yes, but
I don't I don't you know, he's the blueprint for
a different kind of guy maybe, right, you see, like, yeah,
there's there's a he's look, could you really say that

(42:57):
Poetson would be Poeton without Glover? To he might still
be a high achiever, but it's that correct pairing, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
This asn't buy that man a truck and motorcycle if
he didn't exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
But it may not work for other people too. I mean,
I'm sure Glover's going to be good for a lot
of fighters, But you get the point I'm trying to make.
I don't know if it's a prototype. I'm just saying,
thinking about your game in this way. Do I talk
to Dean Thomas about this once? Like Dean was telling me,
so few fighters really do it. They think about certain
parts of it, you know, certain things that they like
to do for sure, but they don't really think about
building a game and strategies and avenues and routes to

(43:31):
attack and what they look like and what the what
the antecedent causes of this are. They just don't put
in that kind of thoughtful work. The very very best
ones do, like you can imagine, for example, Kayla Harrison,
does you know? And these things lead to it. But
I don't think it's That's the other part too. I
don't think this is just specific to wrestlers. I think
there's a lot of fighters that don't put in nearly

(43:54):
as much thought into game planning as you might imagine.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Sometimes though, it comes with your success level, which equals
your financial ability to become better. I say that because
I got an interview coming out with Alexandre Pantosia on
the BCX in which, when I specifically talk to him
about this current eight fight win streak, him going from
you know, sort of a tough out and this division
in his early thirties to becoming arguably the second greatest

(44:17):
champion in its history, top five pound for pound, and
at thirty five, like he's just you know, becoming this
complete force. And I was like, two years ago you
beat Moreno by just outdogging him, and now you're making
it look easy against everybody. And he legitimately said, when
you become a champion, you get more money. You then
can afford to truly level up your game and live

(44:41):
a year round lifestyle that is constantly aimed at putting,
you know, investing your money back into yourself and that's
how you get to this level. Luke, that's interesting to
think about.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, that's another way to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Sure, he's building longevity on that, you know, in a
lot of ways training, you know, being able to afford
to I ain't at att rubbing elbows with hor Gucci
and Adriano Morich and all those fellas right now.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
That's very true.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yes, look, we're gonna take a break from the shout
out and the questions of the fans for a second
here because I don't know if you watched the Ariel
Hawane Show this week when MVP promoter Nakiso Baderian came on,
your best friend huh, proceeded to dunk on the MMA
media industry me and by proxy, due to last name affiliation,
accidentally you as well, And I was like, damn, this

(45:30):
guy a little bit saucy, if not spicy. I know
who to call. Who you gonna call? I'm calling Quervo?
All right, this right here? Shots fired? All right, this
is shots Fired, brought to you by Quervo. Now is
a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila

(45:54):
before we play this. I'm just gonna set up what
the origin of this beef is. I was ever a
fan of Paul versus Gervonte Davis. I was outspoken against that,
and when the fight was inevitably canceled, I put out
a tweet that basically said, not enough people talking about
the fact that the tickets for Jake versus Take were

(46:15):
not selling like at all, and Nikisa, you know, followed
up with a response of that's funny. Here we go
to the Arl Hawana show.

Speaker 11 (46:25):
Did tweet yesterday or no, maybe it was a couple
of days ago something regarding the boxing and MMA media
and I just wanted to get some clarity. Seeing some
of the tweets by boxing and MMA media today makes
you realize a lot what are you referring to here?

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I think like even media members have become social media influencers.
They try to put out like you know, statements that
are not appropriate if you're a real journalist. From my perspective,
everyone is looking to put out content that engages.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
And so what happens is like when I.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
When I see a Dan Raphael like, Lol, this can't
be real, blah blah. It's just like that would never
be okay in the old world of traditional media, right.
Or Brian brought what's Brian's last names Campbell Thomas, what's his.

Speaker 11 (47:19):
Name, Brian Campbell? Yes, if you're talking about CBS sports.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
I who was so anti UFC and Dana White in
the past.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Now I see him.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Taking shots at like m VP or Jake Paul suddenly
and saying, you know, saying stuff that just is very
odd to me. So I just think it just shows
you that true journalism with full integrity is being is
becoming murky, right because because people really want to be

(47:50):
heard and seen and feel like they're getting engagement.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Interesting there, Hey, Brian Thomas, Uh now a good time
to enjoy that tequila? That evented tequila? Wish I had some?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Let me talk about Brian Campbell Thomas right here and
what Nickisa said, Look, uh mm, a journalist sports combat
sports journalism. Journalism is murky right now. It has been
and it has continued down that trend. Why a lot
of different combinations, A big one being the fact that
the major UH promotions are you know, so exclusively signing

(48:25):
these exclusive deals with networks, networks by proxy having their
own in a lot of cases, websites that are sort
of tied to them could couldn't in a lot of
ways change the temperature of the coverage you are providing.
You mix that with the with the you know, onset
of the YouTube era social media. You can become a
quote unquote journalist just by becoming popular, not going through

(48:48):
the traditional you know, collegiate journalism studies and paying dues
up the ladder. I'm obviously closer to you know, the
more traditional sense. But I think what Nikisa's upset about
right there is his belief that I'm suddenly just dunking
on MVP and him and but the one the reality is, Look,
I don't know if these promoters like, we're never gonna

(49:12):
be their friends. They may like us when we give
coverage that to them feels very positive, and they're always
inevitably not gonna like us when we give coverage that
is negative toward them. This isn't me suddenly dunking on MVP.
This is me saying what I said from the beginning
that Jake versus Tank was a comical gimmick fight during
an era when Jake Paul could really use a real fight.

(49:34):
Considering we're coming off of the Mike Tyson debacle, of
which I was very negative about, but he doesn't seemed
to be referencing that now and the Chavez Junior a bout,
which I was also very negative about. Could you argue
back in response to what I said on Twitter and which,
by the way, I was referencing the actual Ticketmaster seating map,

(49:55):
which did show that only a third of the arena
appeared to be full two weeks out. Could you argue
and say, like Ariel did during that sequence, that the
gate doesn't matter, it's the Netflix money.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
You can argue that.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Could you argue that they were going to paper the
building anyway, which happens a lot at the highest level
in boxing, to make that crowd full. You can make
that argument. Could you also make the argument that it
was two weeks out, if they would have kept that
fight going, a lot of tickets would come in last minute,
including if they discounted the prices. Sure, you can do
all of that. But at the time that fight was

(50:28):
canceled because of this civil lawsuit against Jervonte, and suddenly
the moral police within was like, wait, we can't do
this fight. And it seems to be the case by
the way, it seems like Netflix was sort of like, Okay,
this is too far. We don't want this. We can't
act like there was huge demand for the fight. The
ticket sales say something, don't they They do, so it's
cute to call me out right here.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
But at the end of the day, like I've.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Given MVP positive coverage. I wrote a really nice feature,
actually two of them in the same week about MVP
going so aggressively into women's boxing. At the time that
I wrote that they were looking to raise money to
try to become like a real competitor for what Turkey
was doing. I gave him positive press when it mattered.
But like media, even though the lines are constantly blurred,

(51:13):
are never gonna truly be your friend. Why because Hey,
there's people that think that we can't have opinions as media.
We're critics. I write editorial columns. We're critics. We have
these shows and these platforms to give our opinion. Is
it entertainment, is it cloud chasing?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Is it a lot of things? Yeah, it's all those
at one and you know, in one.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
But I think that's a little soft to call out
that specific incidence and to take this stance in modern days,
you know, I mean, he was on a show that
they don't talk negatively about him. So that's the irony
in him calling me out for that.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Look, yeah, I mean, this is just a silly thing
for him to say. I'm not gonna sit here in
donklin nick he's a even though we definitely could. But
what I will say is for his edification and everybody
else is please understand and that it's the year twenty
twenty five, it's almost twenty twenty six, and here is
what you are up against, not just you, me, all
of us. This is the world that we now live in.
We have allowed, through a variety of different changes tooth

(52:12):
technological and then policy choices, to destroy journalism as such. Okay,
we have we have allowed Google and Facebook or now
Meta to take away basically all of the ad dollars
that power to genuine journalism, and what's left in that
wake or it's just a series of podcasts like this one,
but also some media outlets that are left. They also
can't really lean into journalism by virtue of the corporate

(52:35):
model that requires ad clicks, which requires access. We have
taken out all of the firewalls and protections, and in
the baked business model that makes consistent, well paid and
well schooled and very you know, in what he describes
as kind of like this halcyon days of journalism that's over.

(52:57):
It is over, Nikisa. It is never coming back, not
in sports media, not in political media, nothing. You can
find some people hanging on to it because our individual
circumstances or business models and very small amounts that make
it possible, but as an industry wide practice, it's never
coming back.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So that's the first thing I would say.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
The second thing I would say is the idea that
opinions that he doesn't like are the subject of people
not doing their job is the exact inversion of reality.
Even the Walter Cronkites of their time, again a very
different business environment as well as a media environment. Even
those guys had opinions and they pretended to the audience

(53:35):
that they didn't certainly there are ways in which you
can couch it and it doesn't cover your work so
nakedly in a way that gets in the way of it,
and that that's the argument you can have. But the
reality is by letting the audience know what our opinions are,
we are not pretending to be something that we are not.
By the way, I don't claim the mental journalists bec
he can speak for himself, but I certainly don't because

(53:55):
I don't do journalistic work because also I want to
pay my morege Welling, I finished it. But the idea
is like if you want to pay your bills trying
to do that Nikisa, who is paying people in sports
media to do journalism? Brother?

Speaker 9 (54:10):
Who is it?

Speaker 4 (54:11):
I would love to know who that is because I
don't see them. People call themselves that shit, but they
don't really do that shit. John Nash does journalism, you
know what pays for that substack subscribers get his opinion,
and also he gives his opinion. But just be serious, like,
who's paying for sports journalism? Pablotory gets away with it
because he's a special case. It doesn't exist, the Kisa,

(54:31):
it does not exist. So the point I'm trying to
make is and it's an olive branch.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I really am meaning this.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
We are going to give opinions because that is actually
how you build authenticity with the audience, so they know
where you're coming from, and then you and they can
all decide whether or not you like the opinion, whether
you dislike it, maybe where the colors, the coverage, maybe
whether it doesn't. We are never going back to the
era that you imagine that we had because everyone in
every part of the media ecosystem destroyed it. Welcome to

(54:59):
the desert of your reality.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
True. And also, if you're gonna be a circus fight
promoter of what you've done an impeccable job, I'll give
you a lot of credit. I always do. But if
you're gonna roll out circus fights like Tyson Paul, like
Jake Tank, you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Go Let's be honest, like dude, Jake Paul has been
an enormous success. We've interviewed him a bunch of times.
He's clearly got a lot going on, and he's clearly proved,
to excuse me, proved a lot of people wrong, you
and me included on several occasions, Nikisa as well. These
are not people who are successful by accident, and I
recognize as much. But the Mike Tyson fight was complete ass.

(55:35):
It was terrible to watch. It was a waste of
everyone's time. It was embarrassing for the sport. And we're
gonna say as much. And if you don't like that fact,
or anyone else that doesn't like that fact, tough shit.
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It was bad.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
And the Javes Junior fight was also bad. It's been
a lot of bad now to that end BC, to
that end AJ fight. Okay, I don't know if it
makes sense on the other direction, but I can certainly
with draw all the things that I had criticisms about
about these other two fights. Fine, ill, I will remove that.
And there's different things you can say about it. But fine,

(56:07):
But like this idea that like there owed some level
of neutrality as a way to like minimize criticism for
turning in bad product. This is twenty twenty five, Like,
I'm sorry, those days are completely over.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, And this is twenty twenty five, and that was
shots fired, brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a good
time to enjoy it. The tequila that invented tequila. Let's
keep the fun rolling with the people here, Joseph says, boys,
let's get some fight stories from your past. If you
won't do that or don't have any, let's go through
the rankings and predict who's champ at the end of

(56:40):
twenty twenty six for each division. Big kisses. It's Joseph Luke.
Does he want you to regale stories of fights you
were in? And if you are unwilling or there aren't any,
he wants you to predict who will end this calendar year.
I'm sorry, who will be the champion at the end
of next year and each year FC division?

Speaker 4 (57:00):
Who the fuck knows that? I mean, I'm not a fighter, Luke,
I'm a lover.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
All right, all right, I'll do some of these. I'll
still say morob okay forty five? I don't know, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Mean, let's start at the top one twenty five. Men,
we're talking about a year and a month from now,
who's the champion. That's tough, josh Van.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
It might be josh Van, I mean, or it may
not be too like me.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
So again, Pantosia think keeps it, yeah, beats Van defends
it twice next year?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Now, come on, Kyoji hor Gucci. Come on, come on,
come on.

Speaker 6 (57:43):
He ain't beating him. Come on, Gouc doesn't have it.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Gooch had it on the mats to train him, all right,
but he didn't teach him everything he knew. Okay, uh,
you think Morob still Luke, no moving up?

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Just stay with it, Morob, I think keeps it?

Speaker 2 (57:57):
No bro a healthy Yumar beats him head to head.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Okay, Rob's going to have it in twenty twenty nine.
Rob is holding on.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yeah, I got I I don't, I didn't. I don't
agree on nomore.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
All right, it's not going to be vulk a feather.
So who is it gonna be?

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I don't think it's gonna I don't know that one true.
I truly Movsar Molsar. Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I don't know who it's going to be. That's a
wide open division at the moment. Let's move over to lightweight.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
La Leando Luke.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
The legend.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
I'll say l Leanda, Yeah, I'll say el Matador.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I think it's trending toward Almatador at the moment. It's
also in that deep ass, that deep ass f division
of welterweight. It's still trending Islam. I'm the best fighter
in the world right now.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, I'm gonna say Chef cut rock Monov for middleweight
middleweight seemed better?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
No, No for oh, for shot hamza I was saying,
So you're saying shav cut over is that's an interesting take?

Speaker 4 (58:55):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Do you believe in Hamzad holding it down for another
year being I.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
Do, yeah, especially since he's not he might compete only
once next year, in which case, By the way, remember
how everyone got after Dean Thomas for saying this is
exactly what's gonna happen, and it's starting to happen, and
everyone killed him for saying that. I'm like, Dean proved
everybody right or sorry, we prove himself right.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
I'm sorry you.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Predict that John Jones would come to Kadirov's son's birthday party, Luke, and.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Then I don't know if he I don't know if
you let that one slip, you know?

Speaker 12 (59:25):
All right?

Speaker 9 (59:26):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Do you think Poeton no, he's moving up to heavyweight?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I agree, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It might be year's time again, it might be.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Just do you think Olberg gets it?

Speaker 12 (59:39):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (59:40):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
But if he shows me that. I mean, he'll show
me something big, but I don't I think that is
a proto.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Division still probably probably.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Heavyweight, Luke heavyweight. This is a heavy question.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
That's a different one. I'm tempted to say Gable Steveson
to be honest with you, but I won't go that far.

Speaker 13 (01:00:00):
Hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
John Jones, No no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
No, no, dude, How funny would it be if it's
Corteza Costa?

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
How funny would that be?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Would Tom Asper always put some respect?

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Probably to probably Yeah, women's strawweight Mackenzie Durton, Nah, no,
Jong Whaley will be the champion at the end of next.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Year, probably or Tatiano Suarez.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
True true, uh chef Chenko.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
Now see, she's.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Starting to get real up there in age, which case,
I don't know how much longer she's got in her
and she just.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Absolutely dominated Whaley. Come on, come on, bra all right?

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
No, but okay, here's the thing, Like pieces of her
game are going away each year. Everyone surely notices this, right,
he's rounding out the other pieces. Look what she did
to totally fair, but eventually that's going to come to
a close too. And you've let the other pieces go
like it's a game that they all play, right, we
all know it. I'm just saying like you're losing offense
year over year.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
You know, I don't know. I don't know how that one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I changed my welterweight pick to your slab.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
I'm a slob, luke, that's you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
And to close it off, is it gonna be Kayla,
Amanda Valentina or Julie Anna.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I think it's gonna be Valentina. I think Valentina's gonna
go up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
You think she beats Kayla.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
I think Kayla may have one or two left fights
total left, you know what I mean? I don't she
might even have just one. Like if the next fight's
Amanda new Nest, Jim, I just call it to day.
That cut, that cut is that cut? Is so what?
That's one of the worst cuts I've ever seen. Like
no human should be doing what she's doing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Yeah, I'll give you five seconds to answer this. There's
one UFC champion currently under the age of thirty? Who
is it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Say it again? There's one UFC champion?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Uh yes, isn't that wild?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
One dude. One I would have guessed that TAMAIAV.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Was under thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
No, but he lost all that time, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Getting that back? All right, let's get another video loaded
up here. This one's from Alexander What.

Speaker 12 (01:02:05):
A Beltie in BC. It's your boy romping Bronco. I'm
here at my work station where I fix up old
film cameras that are almost as washed as you, guys,
and I've got two questions for you today. First question,
what's the po box you guys use? I'm sure you've
mentioned it at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I just forgot.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
I've got a care package I want to send you, guys,
and I'd love to get it there before Christmas if possible.
Second question, operating under the assumption that the UFC is
actually going to try in twenty twenty six, what are
the first three headlining fights that you want to see?
So January, February, and March. I would really like to
see Aspinall versus Gone Too in January, if Tom is

(01:02:42):
able to see, I think it'd be great to get
the fight going. February'd be really nice to see Ilia
fight Arman and your mind which you may vary on this,
but you know, having Ilia fight in the month of
Love could be an interesting storyline. For some BC in March,
Volkanovski fight ev Louev potentially give him an opportunity to retire.
I are in Australia. Those are my thoughts. I would
love to hear what three fights you think they're going

(01:03:04):
to go with. Thank you again so much for the show.
Can't wait to hear what you guys think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Well, I man, he's got some old ass cameras on there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Shut out to that guy. What do we call him again?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
He's thing Bronco. Yeah, Alexander, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Put up the PO box address on the screen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
There you go, everyone. If you want to send us
contraband or vinyl or comic books or just you know,
anthrax you can read. You can send it for your
audio only listeners.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
We have a PO box.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Send it to Morning Combat fifty five, Gerard Street, g
E R ar D PO Box fifty seven, Huntington, New York,
one one seven four three. There you go, rewind it,
write it down. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
By the way, while the show was going on, I
mean started before the show, but while the show was
going on, Habib and Connor are still tweeting each other
like it's still happening.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
They're still tweeting about uh, Connor.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Accused Habib of rug pulling his fans for some kind
of like NFT ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I'm not even sure what he sold, to be honest with.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
You, and then oh so the papaka yeah, like the
Kabibe went out back at him and that was when
the show started.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
And now Connor has responded to that. So this one
is kind of ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Going back the question right here, question right here, I
don't think he would break uh promise to mother and
father except for the fact that he said this. This
grudge match is never over, but the war between them
is never over. Would Connor Habib too, with Habib coming
out of retirement at any catchway be the biggest fight
in the company history above their first matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Not above the first, but he'd be number two.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Who else would do? Who else?

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I mean who else?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
Wow? You know you could bring you could bring Ronda back.
You know, imagine you have to play the hits like
Ronda Misha.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
That would be big. Ronda Holly too would be big.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
That would be very big, old and washed. Did you
see Mayor Eric Adams wants to investigate Dylan danis beat down,
so he's probably gonna go after John pork uh So
to answer Alexander's question, and he made good fight picks
right there. I would go to porious r yuki in
in January, give me aspinall gone to in February and

(01:05:20):
give me all right this Liam won't fight, he's got Ramadan.
Then give me what's that third match up? Luke, what's
the third sexy match up? What was his third matchup?

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I forget?

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
I mean, you just think about the most exciting talents
in the sports.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
So it would be.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
It would be Ilia Arman, for sure. It would be
you know, the biggest rivalry. It would be Tom and
they're not gonna do it. I'm just saying it'd be
Tom and or John Jones and Poeton, like one of
the two. It would be is I mean this mom
against I and Gary would be great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
But all these pushing that Usman thing hard hard.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
I mean again, they might go usbl It's not the
one I care about the most? Which one do I
care about more? I would give it to Gary over
Rusmann just on meritocracy. What's the other one there? Like
hamzav versus who that's the other part too, Like Who's
he's a Fluffy Hama versus Fluffy become fun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Yeah, but im Avov deserves it more.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Right, he does. He does. Yeah, you're right, he does.
That's not as exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
It's not as exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
No, no, yeah, but you're right Imovov for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
All right, it's kind of where we're at. I do hope, obviously,
we all hope that they come out guns blazing in
the paramount era, that the removal of that second paywall
allows the sport to grow in this country and and
become hot. I mean, I wish they would just identify
four or five rivalries that are going to be hot
as shit and go back to the old way of
building those up, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
What I mean? I love that. But we've got Marek
Shape in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
So yeah, what happens. Let's hear from Tyler Hey LTBC
and the l I L. I've been following MMA for
almost twenty years and saw a prime Bjpenn Rain at
lightweight during his prime. There's a double negative, right, No,
or maybe it's just too much of that one word?
Is it crazy to think that a prime BJ and
his skill set would still be competitive in the modern

(01:07:23):
lightweight division at the title level? Also, what is your
perspective on the impact in role Hawaii has played in
the history of MMA. I'm born and raised in Hawaii,
but have been working and living on the East Coast
the last ten years, six in the DMV area, four
the last four in the NYC. So Luke start off
with this, does the BJ Penn of Prime Lightweight Era

(01:07:46):
compete with Taporia, Sarukian, Patty Gai Chee.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Yes, Yes, okay, yes, I think he could beat any
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yes, he ain't being Taporia right now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
He could beat Taporia Prime Prime Bjpen, Yes he could,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
What is your perspective on the impact and role Hawaii
has played in the history of m M A.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
I mean, there's this, there's a stat in boxing where
it's like, in terms of land area, Puerto Rico has
produced more champions in boxing than any other like similar
sized territory anywhere else on Earth. And it just kind
of tells you that culturally, what can be produced when
you know you have some of the right ingredients in place,
and you know, again there's there's cultural importance around boxing.

(01:08:31):
Look what they can produce baseball too, obviously with Puerto
Rico and other sports. You know, I'm not sure Hawaii's
on quite like that level in terms of the amount
of champions, but it's got a similar kind of feel
where it's this small land mass and there are just
a series of circumstances that are created there where fighting
takes on a culturally outsized role. And look at the

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consequences of that. I mean, I might say it's like
down they're bad, Like I'm almost like they're most for
the most part, good about So it could be some
consequences to fighting that are bet as a cultural practice.
But you just you know, the amount of champions they produced,
the amount of talent overall that they produced this tiny,
tiny island nation, it is significant. They've had some of
the very best fighters ever and you know guys not

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less so Bjpenn. But although there was a lot of
truth to it too, but certainly in the case of Max,
Max never left the islands.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
You know, Max never went.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
To Aka or at TBC, He never changed coaches, he
never changed inside the island itself, he never changed you know,
the gym that basically is the one that got him
to the dance. Like, how many places are that remotely
located like that have that kind of a the ability
to produce world class talent in that kind of a way,

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you know, as consistently generationally as Hawaii has been able
to do. And there's so many Hawaiian fighters you've just
never even known about, you know, Ronald machine Gun John
and there used to be Hawaii used to be the
epicenter of some of the most exciting fights happening outside
the UFC. It was a promotion there called Icon Sport.
It used to be called super Brawl. You see. They

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would have super heavyweight fights there and because of the
Japanese influence, there would be a little bit of connectivity
between that scene and the American scene. Robbie Lawler fought
at Icon Sport, Jason Mayhan Miller fought at Icon Sport.
I think even Tim Sylvia fought. I mean a bunch
of guys during that era all thought there because Hawaii was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
So preeminive bcly.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Last thing I'd say on this is, you know, there
are good things you can say about the promotional abilities
with Scott Cocher, and there's criticisms you can make, and
that's true of any promoter. I think one of the
good things that he really understood, and I don't know
how much it meant to modern fans, but Hawaii's pre
eminence and the place that it holds in the sport
is quite legitimate, and he would bring those shows back

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to Hawaii, those Bellator shows, which I thought was just
such a grand gesture. It's really a shame UFC has
never been there and they refused to go because of
Penny pinching. It's like they've got all the money in
the world. I just feel like a UFC Hawaii event
would be such a home run. And it's we're waiting
for it to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Max in a BMF title fight the top it it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Can you imagine? Can you imagine?

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I mean we wouldn't know televin Key Papa, you know,
Big Papa without without Hawaii's Mma. You know who's the
other guy we like off that island?

Speaker 6 (01:11:19):
Luke, Dad's back up on this.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, yep, That's what I'm talking about. Okay, and the
Pineapple Princess, Luke, Thank you Hawaii. All right, let's keep
the fun moving right here, we have Don Agan of
Irish fame. It sounds like with a video.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
What's up Luke and BC Day one?

Speaker 14 (01:11:38):
Donk here, Donogan Anderson, I've been there since the bomb shelter.
I've watched your show longer than I think I've watched
any other show ever, and that's really fucking depressing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
My wife doesn't understand it, but I keep coming back
for more.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:11:55):
I got one question for you to wash pieces of shit,
and I can say that because I'm twenty five, even
though I look like I'm thirty five. What is your
worst slash best gas station bathroom experience? Preface that by
saying my worst is I made fun of a trucker
for leaving a stall without washing his hands, like fixing

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to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
The bathroom, and he got so mad he threatened to
shive me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
What is yours? Thank you all for everything you do.
Have a great thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
All of my gas station bath ones are like just disgusting.
You're on vacation driving through the South on the way
to Florida and you ope, you know, the guy working
at the grosest gas station ever opens up with the
lock the grossest bas the reverend. There's literally just you know,
four feet of shit dripping down the wall of the
bathroom and you're just like, how did I get here?

(01:12:48):
Or when you get off the highway at like the
rest stop in New York State and there's a hole
in the stall wall and you're like nine years old, going,
you know, dropping a deuce. You turn around, there's like
a grown man trucker next to you, just looking at you. Look.
I've had some of those experiences.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Could I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Driving is hard on me for my anxiety, and it
always has been, but it's certainly gotten worse to the power.
I barely drive hardly at all anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
I love driving long distance. Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Oh, it's that's due.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Honestly, if someone says you have to drive seven hours
or eat a bullet, I'm going to eat a bullet.
I mean, that's just what it's gonna be. Say goodbye
to my wife and family, and it's called a day.
So I don't really have a ton of like pure
I mean, I've had terrible bathroom experiences, but I don't
know about how many have been specifically located to the
gas station or good ones for that matter, either. I

(01:13:38):
mean I could tell I went to like a do
you know Royal Farms? B See, yes, So Royal Farms
is like the wuah wah of Maryland, and there's waas
in Maryland as well, but Royal Farms is like a
Maryland based version of that. I didn't know anything about
Royal Farms, and I went into one of the bathrooms
and I couldn't believe how pristine it was. But this
is not a particularly interesting story. Again, the worst bathroom

(01:13:58):
story is independent of gas stations that I've had, have
all been. It was the Renaissance Festival, which was I
mean that comode brother that haunts me in my dreams.
They do abortions in that just doing abortions and civil
war surgery. Just limbs in there and shot gangreen, blood

(01:14:18):
and piss and shit and then on the good side,
sorry on the The other one was again the one
in Turkey where the guy was tearing out pages of
the phone book for one lira to go dump in
a hole in the ground, and there was flies everywhere,
landing on you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Driving alone at like midnight on the New Jersey Turnpike
one time got off at the rest stop. There were
three pissars and three shitters. I was in the last
shitter alone at night. Somebody enters. They come all the
way down to my stall where I'm dropping a deuce,
and they're like shaking the door trying to get the
lock open, and I'm like.

Speaker 6 (01:14:54):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
The like I gotta go so bad, and I'm like,
there's o there you could go, and the other ones
and they just the entire time that I was there
until I finished, they were trying to get the door open.
I I there was like, was this a George Michael invite?
I don't know what it was, Luke, but I could
not have packed up quicker. And it's just like, here,
have it, get out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:11):
How often have you walked in on someone who was
just too lazy to lock the stall?

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah, that's happened too. It's enough, John, again, thank you
for looking thirty five. We're done with this gross question.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Okay, thank you, Joseph Airbank.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Look, have you ever accepted a gas station proposal on
the bathroom?

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
All right, that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Do you think I'm some kind of fucking No.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I know a dude who drove across the country and
he had stories at like the you know, Iowa truck
stops where like truckers have propositioned him for sex.

Speaker 4 (01:15:39):
But yeah, see this thing, I'm not on the road
in enough places for me to have stories like this,
I mean on my feet in places non gas station related.
But yeah, I've heard the bathrooms in public bathrooms in
Japan or you can eat off the floor, but I'm
not going to try it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
All right, Gabe is here, He says, sub Luke, BC
and crew, what are the best foods, fights, movies and
music to enjoy? While Hi? Thanks y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Now, BC, this is going to sound like a real
fucked up answer, I firmly believe. I mean, okay, let's
let's sort of break this down very very simply. Why
why do people do drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
To enhance and push anxiety and depression behind them?

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
That can be a reason, that's certainly one of them.
But the basic idea is that euphoria confers experiential benefit, right,
I mean, this is the basic idea.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Philosophies, they just want to know what you get.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it. I'm getting
to it. I'm getting to it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:38):
Hold on, this is this fuck you long, Islan Luke,
because this applies to you mostly, which is the point
is that it's supposed to. Again, it doesn't always do
this for not always these reasons. There can be any
kind of maladaptive behavior around it. But the basic idea
is that it brings you a degree of temporary, however
real euphoria. The reason why I bring that up is

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because I don't think there's one genre of movie or
food or anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
The idea is.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
In the words of Doug Stanhope, he's talking about alcohol.
I just take a mundane situation and I pour alcohol
on top of it, and all of a sudden, it's
a lot better. It's the same why do people smoke
we before they go to a concert because it makes
the concert better, or a movie, or you know, before
a big feast. It just makes what you're gonna have
even better. There are caveats to that, but as a

(01:17:29):
general rule, you see, I challenge the premise of the
question because it's almost universal in terms of its application.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Thank you for wasting our time with that answer that
and say musically, I'm definitely going in Radiohead. There is
just a next level when you're in the eighth row
of being able to understand the Let's let's pick the
second greatest album in rock history in Rainbows by Radio
Ahead and put that as an example. You put the
headphones on, you have such alternating rhythms going on that

(01:17:59):
the only way to really decode and understand and be
within that is to be deep in that A throw.
You could argue on movies, Luke, sometimes you just like,
if I'm on an airplane and I'm sitting in Delta eight,
I'm like, all right, give me Harold and Kumar, give
me just some slapstick ridiculousness. But at the same time, Luke,
I've sat in the A throw and saw uncut gems
at a astronomical level. There's no genre, and it was

(01:18:23):
no but that genre whatever you want to call that.
And I don't mean like neo noir or whatever. I mean, like,
you know, the set for that example of a movie.
The Safti brothers have mastered that ability to take these
scenes and make them so intense and where you're just like,
I just want to get off this ride, and then
you know, five minutes later another scene hits. That is
a good spot to be in for that type of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Lukey, I got high and rewatched I hadn't seen in
so long. There will be blood, yes, but Daniel day
lewis holy shit, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, yeah, I mean food wise, you know, whatever gets
you through the night.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
I mean what I mean, long on, Luke, wait in here.
I'm not saying people don't have their favorites like they
would experientially, long isl look you there. Yeah, I'm not
saying people don't have their favorites, or you might like
a certain thing a little bit more. But my general
rule is, like the point of doing that not all
drugs on in all context, but in general, is to
lift the overall experience. More broadly, I don't think of
it in terms of like, oh I had to, I'm

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gonna eat Taco bell sober too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Wouldn't you say that, like something like chocolate, you go
to a whole nother level in the a throw.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
I mean it's like you're but I do that for
almost anything.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
On I'm gonna say that everything, Like Luke said, it's
just whatever you're into will be more fun if you're high.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:19:39):
But to answer this person's question, I feel like movies
in particular, like, Okay, there's difference between like BC said,
watching a movie on an airplane. I know you were
sitting in a throw, but how about like watching a
movie in like an imax theater with like the surround
sound and it's some weird movie where it's like, oh,
this shit could actually happen and now you're or like
Black Mirror.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
You ever watch Black Mirror high, That's it'll fuck with
your mind, Like I like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Watching Kind of a Woman on weed.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Yeah, the back of a twenty dollar bill.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
Unch of condoms back, I don't know, we didn't use them. No,
Just to close on that, I have a certain sets
of genre and music that are so greatly escalated by that,
you know, Radiohead, Pink Floyd level of production. Uh, certain,
certain uh progressive.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
I'm not gonna I can say this listen to Yes
or or you know, I can say this, you know what,
you know what album Again, I'm just I mean, who
gives a fuck about my opinions on hip hop? But
I'll just say one album that critics like that I
also liked this year was the New Clips album and
it was produced by Pharrell and you know it, dude,
It's like, just look at the critical reviews, like it's
just a really really well made album. Certainly that's one

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of those albums, and some of the songs lend themselves
to with maybe like a well not all of them,
but a more measured kind of pace where you can
kind of slowly absorb it in ways that you hadn't before.
And some experiences lend themselves great so I definitely got
a better ability to hear that one in particular.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Dude, if I'm gonna listen to Miles Davis, you know,
bitches brew, I can't handle that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
Sober You ever listened to outcasts of Clemini?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I have not.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
That's a fun experience.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
All right, in the interest of time, let's let's let's
speed through. Here's Josh E with a question.

Speaker 12 (01:21:23):
Good, I am kay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Question for the milebag.

Speaker 12 (01:21:27):
What's your favorite Australian food? Doesn't even have to be discontinued,
all right, jeez.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Let's go right to our Australian food expert, Luke.

Speaker 9 (01:21:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Look at our fan base. They look just like us.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
I'm gonna say sausage rolls is probably the best Australian
like meal.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
I would or like a meat pie.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
But snack wise, I'm a big fan of Smith's potato
chips or shapes, which are like crackers that come.

Speaker 6 (01:21:53):
In different flavors.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Call them shapes.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
It's like a brand shapes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
I don't have experience with Australian food outside of beat
by the French Canadian?

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
How about how about Foster's Australian for beer?

Speaker 6 (01:22:04):
I do want to eat crow or kangaroo? We should say.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
For the last Monday's episode when I said that kangaroo
tastes like chicken, a lot of people shitting on me
for that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
I want to say, I was like ten years old
when I tried kangaroo.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
I don't fuck remember right, you're dead wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
All right, let's keep it going here. Here's Andrew. Good
morning you beautiful degenerates. Who are your top five terminators?
Meaning you can beat them on the scorecards, but no
matter how bloody and bust it up, they are just
going to keep coming. Andrew's list is Olegg taktarof, Robbie Lawler,
Clay Guida, Diego Sanchez Korean zombie.

Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
Thank you for all you do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
That's a great list, Luke, I'm gonna add Darren Elkins
and Nate the Train. In terms of modern zombies.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
You know, yeah, you got to add them up there
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
The old Barbarina is a zombie who Brian Barberina.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
Yes that that applies. Then don't have to think about
that because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Justin Gaichi first and forem. I mean, you can kill
that zombie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
But you know, yes, yes, but these are good choices
by you. Well, now who else?

Speaker 5 (01:23:09):
First of all, I had Elkins and land We're ready
to go BC nail those. I wrote Marvin Vittori just
for his chick, like he'll just keep getting hit in
the head coming.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Is there a woman who's had like an insanely amazing chin.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Jess Cat Andrage it just she Yeah, you're right, we
look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
But yes, yes, even though.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
You wanna fight. She got her ass kicked royally for
three and a half rounds and then would not stop
coming late and was like kind of landing and hitting
and hurting. Joanna like she just walks, she walks through everything.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Luke, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
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coming Monday, what is that? December first, Monday in studio
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the stage for all things UFC three twenty three. Then
we'll be back on Friday with a remote show. We
will follow up on what happened in the week on
three twenty three. We'll get you set up by the
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And don't forget Monday for Quervo. Let's go Jed Bclt.

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We're gonna get after it, Luke, I'm gonna get after it,
all right, great stuff, all right, let's keep the fun going.
Here's Whitehead, Whitehead on Black Friday. Let's hear from Whitehead.

Speaker 15 (01:25:22):
Here at the ESPN offices where Brian Campbell has been
caught doing whippets in the back, eating out of the sink,
just generally being a nuisance to the public. Nonetheless, my
question is would you rather have a Jon John's son
or a Ronda Rowsi daughter?

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
First of all, Whitehead, is he reporting from the Bristol Mothership.
I don't know this, gentleman, but my reputation there still
precedes itself. Luke, would you Is he asking would you
rather have John Jones as a son or Ronda Rowsei
as a daughters?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
I think that's what he's saying, and I think how
could the answer be anything other than Ronda Rowsei is
the choice here? I mean, yeah, got, we are all flawed.
We are all flawed, but then there are some flaws
that appear to be much worse than others. I'll take
Rhonda's flaw.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
It's like, let me be Happa's father.

Speaker 8 (01:26:11):
In law.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Let me do that. I like Travis Brown, I never
had Yeah, yeah, they used to call to your friend.
But outside of that, I never had an issue with him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
You know, all right, I'm happy for you BC with what.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Your friend, your friendship or whatever the fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Your friend shop. Yes he did bad things.

Speaker 4 (01:26:34):
Now, no talking to fucking Travis Brown.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Oh yeah, I like, I've never had a problem with
Travis Brown. It's Honda housey who I'm like, uh yeah,
all right, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
Yeah, cool guy for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Thank you Whitehead for the question. Let's go over to Barry.
With twenty twenty five coming to an end, who are
some fighters you can't see making big moves off the
rankings in twenty twenty six? Luke, what about featherweight Steve Garcia.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
I mean, he's already made a big move. This is
where the movement gets even harder. So I don't know, Okay,
Josh Van could really be the apex example of this,
where he goes from you know, outside of the top
fifteen one year and then to the champion in the next.
That'd be pretty big. That'd be pretty big. I'm trying

(01:27:24):
to think at bantamweight now because Morobs mostly cleaned that out.
Forty five seems like you got some real movers and
shakers in there. Fifty five, dude, soar yu can? I
mean he's kind of been hanging around the top for
a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I don't think these guys really fit that question. Isn't
he really kind of asking who, like maybe right now,
is at the end of the top fifteen rankings or
not ranked that we think would just arrive on the scene.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Are you to me, you know what to facilitate this conversation,
Let me put the rankings up and I can give
you a better answer.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
He's saying, who's gonna make big moves up the rankings?
So it wouldn't necessarily be somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Like David Martinez at one thirty five. That's a guy
you should watch. He's very talented. I like his game
a lot, still got a lot of issues, but I
look at him and I'm like, he's got big potential.
B See, I wouldn't ride off jay On Silva at eleven.
He's got that fight with Arnold Allen coming up. But
I know he fell short against Diego Lopez, but there's
still some time to iron that out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
I think Apriel Bonfieme is moving at Welter Waite, so
that's a good guy to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
He's yeah, he's on his way. He's on his way.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
But there's a lot of elderly ones in that division.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
We're both gonna say Gable Steveson because he's probably gonna
make his UFC debut for soon and will be a
factor quick.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
But what about Vault Walter Walker.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Walter Walker might move up.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
It's possible there you go, all right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
What about the guy who just called out Walter Walker,
Hoke it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
Tema Clein Fatima. Clein's sitting at twelve. I think she's
gonna end the year higher than twelve, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I agree with you on Josh Hoked. I think he'll
get a big push. He's got quick hands, he seems
to be a good athlete. He's craying, but they don't
they don't mind that, So he's gonna rise there as well.
Don't don't sleep on Yarslav Amislav, who's coming in here.
He could end up being a player of I mean,
the Belacher guys have not done great lately, but he
could end up being a player in that regard. I mean,

(01:29:17):
what about somebody like Macy Barber, who is ranked five,
but we're like she's forgotten about because of the injuries.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Uh, and also like she's just inconsistent, like even when
she performs well, she'll have a health issue or you know.
And I don't wish it upun her obviously, but it's
hard to get too excited until it feels like that's resolved.
All right, and then as long Island looke.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Let us know Amasov will be making that debut against
Neil Magne.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Will love that fight.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
Yep, very good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
We'll see that, all right, Let's keep the fun going.
Here's our guy Joe at Rundomn Cheeks with a question.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
Hey there, gents, run them cheeks seventeen seventy five.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Here got our question for you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
If you had to pick an MMA fighter to give
you a tour of their home country, who would it
be and what would the country be? For example, a
tour of Scotland from Paul Kraig.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
By the way, you guys, ever heard of jerk heard?

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
What did you say?

Speaker 6 (01:30:12):
Jerk me? Dude?

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
He's shout out to Joe by the way. Uh at
former marine Luke, former marine. He's wearing the bomber jacket
in the hot tub, which is great getting it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
I love that jacket, by the way, that jacket's great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Yeah, well done his question. I would say, I know
almost nothing about the country Georgia, not the state.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
I know enough about that state.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
I'd like if Morob could show me around Georgia, maybe
we'll get she loves the gloves out there too to Yeah,
that would be one answer. I know you're probably not
going to pick Chamaiev and the Chechena region of Russia,
especially with John Jones living there now, it's dangerous to
do that. I mean, what about like Long Island, Luke

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wants Johnny Walker.

Speaker 4 (01:31:01):
I think it was Scotland. Everyone in Scotland did.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Bang all through Scotland. Where else are we thinking here, Luke?
Somebody that would be like an ambassador for that country
and it would be awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
I there, Now, do you have a veritable pick of
anyone you want? But you could do starting with Rio
Jose Ado to Brazil.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
I've never been to Brazil. I really really want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
I'd like to roll with the King of hero if that,
if that happened, because you know, whenever they send a
Fighter with UFC cameras abroad. They always send Nina drama
with them, Like, what if they sent us instead?

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
What if they send us to Argentina to hang out
with Eileen Petiz.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Dude, that'd be Actually, that's my pick right there, Fiona,
that's my pick right there. Okay, MK, in your house, Fiona.

Speaker 4 (01:31:43):
I could have gone to Argentina for Halloween because xFC
had a showdown there, but I missed last Halloween because
my dog was dying and I couldn't miss it two
years in a row, so I had to decline.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
What about Prohatska in the Czech Republic.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
I've been to the Czech Republic, but I certainly be
a game to go see his village with two guys
hanging out in his room.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Drinking in the bars. He'll be a hero. I mean,
that's these are good picks, Luke.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Yeah, I would like to see. You know, another place
I've never been is, you know, Northern Ireland with Paul Hughes.
I'd love to go to Belfast. I check that place out,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Now, would you take Joshua Van and go to me
and mar.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
I try to go place a little more stable, Okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Know, how about how about Japan with Kyoji Horgucci.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
That'd be sick, you know, all right, all right Japan,
I just said I'm down for that, alright, you kind
of Hamden Hall, you went like this, You.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Went, well, I was trying. I had a Pavel Chevchenko
joke in the cylinder, but I was like, I don't
think it's up the bar, so I'll just leave that out. Yeah,
all right, let's hear from Michael Hey, says big fan
fellas Luke, what are your top three favorite BC skits
and bits that he revisits all of the time? Me, see,

(01:32:59):
what are your top three lukeisms? Keep up the good work. Look,
we already know that she eight is your least favorite,
like men do would be your second least favorite. But
what are your favorite BC skitz ad bits.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Like specifically anti shop jokes?

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
No, no, just like what recurring jokes or bits or
whatever that that I do.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
So one of the ones I love and hate the
most simultaneously is like, you know, study abroad, I just
met her or whatever some bullshit like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
You know, that's one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Those are the old guy jokes that populated my childhood.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
Just so people know, right, Yeah, and then I'll say
something like vitality and you'll imagine that I said vitology,
and then you'll then you'll shoehorn in, you know, great
Pearl Jam album, like you'll do that kind of stuff
like great Pearl Jam album, great Radiohead song, great, you know, yeah,
kind of thing like that. That's another one you do.
And then the last one is probably the crying and

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masturbating you do at the bus stop.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
That's really okay, that makes no sense. Uh, look, yeah,
thank you, Long Island. Look, let's give Luke some flowers here.
I mean, he's got some good bits here, you know
what I mean? The uh, what do you think about
him sending me the the three am flatulence over the
audio text?

Speaker 6 (01:34:10):
No? I saw in Luke's live chat.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Someone was like, oh, can we add Luke's fucking flatuance
to the MKA sound on board?

Speaker 6 (01:34:19):
And I was like, absolutely, I wrote in your chat Luke.
I was like absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
I'm not out of that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
But I just like when Luke uses just like random
big words that just don't make sense, and it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
Kind of like don't make sense to a non reader.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Perhaps, Yeah, that's that's one of my favorite bits, to
be quite quite candid with you.

Speaker 6 (01:34:37):
Yeah, it's trying to make is the upper bound limits?

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Uh, You're I get a lot of shit for your
mileage may vary too, Yes there, what's that word you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
The temerity? Tamarity will always be my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
Luke Thomas bitch in totality.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
Yeah, how tamaar of me to bring that up. All right,
let's keep the fun going here, Carl has a video
for us.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Hey, that one.

Speaker 13 (01:35:00):
Carl tuning in here from a very cold northeast of England.
First and foremost, I want to say a big thank
you to the job that Luke and Brian have done
over these past six years. I've followed more in combat
pretty much since day one, so the opportunity to be
part of the Thanksgiving Q and A is one I
would really appreciate. With that being said, my question is this,
if you were to put prime Ronda Rousey in the

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modern women's bantamweight division, how highly do you think she
would be racked? I personally think that the current version
of the division hasn't evolved all that much, and I
still think Ronda had the traits to still challenge a
lot of the people in that top five, someone like
a Juliana Painnier of a kel Pennington that kind of ILK.

(01:35:43):
I'm going to put that to you guys once again.
I want to say thank you so much for having
me on and a happy Thanksgiving to everyone from over
here in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
Dude chout to Carl first of all, badass Hando Bisping
two poster behind him. I mean, thank you for showing
us the lover right there. I also think that's a
good question. So Luke, he's saying prime Randa, so before
the chin and you know her self reported c issues
have really taken over maybe short of Amanda and Kayla.

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Do you think prime Ronda is still a problem for
everyone thirty five or out there today?

Speaker 4 (01:36:21):
So let's pull up the rankings because I actually feel
like she would still be highly ranked me be see.
I mean one thing you have to remember. This may
not sound right, but it's true. Everyone's like, oh, Ronda
fell apart so quick.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
But one thing that I've.

Speaker 4 (01:36:34):
Because she had two losses and then just left the sport,
right sure, But one thing that I feel like the
home fight it kind of exposed and you know what
was true in her career was you got to remember,
like Ronda was not as good at fighting as some
of the other women, but was a a plus level athlete.
I talked to DC about this once. He was like,
you know, she was a lifelong athlete, just a very
different kind of person. When they're internationally competitive, you know,

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from a very very young age, they're just they could
do much more with their body and they're much more capable.
And that's really true. And she had this aggressive style
of submissions, right you see where she would clinch up
with you, throw you, and then she's immediately in transition
launching into a submission that is still going to get
you a bunch of wins in the modern women's one
hundred and thirty five pound division, Like, can it take

(01:37:19):
her all the way to where it took her before
BC if we were starting fresh, No, I don't know
that it would necessarily, but it would go very far.
So here's the top ten currently in that division BC,
Miranda Maverick. Do I think that a modern Rousey could summer?
There's no question in my mind. You know, Coride Silva,
I don't know, Tracy Cortes probably, Jazzdavissius, yes, I'm a Unis, yes, Barber, yes,

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Blanchefield probably.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
Bus through and strikes with her and beats her.

Speaker 4 (01:37:46):
I'm not saying that they wouldn't also win, but I'm saying,
could I imagine her just overwhelming them very quickly, Yes,
Grosso Silva and then Fiereal. Probably the buck stops there
because she's got a really strong judo in a good
long job.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Bara, we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Oh sorry, what am I doing to look at the
wrong division. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:37:59):
I apologe Jacqueline Cavalcanti, Yes, Carol Jsa, You're gonna be
a little more difficult. Aileen Perez, Yes, Macy chazon Cha's
excuse me. Probably h Ierine eden A Aldonna. Maybe she's
got a good long job, good for work. A little
harder to say. Jannasanto's same. But you know, Raquel Pennington
up at two? Do I think Ronda could sub her out?

(01:38:21):
Like again, I'm not saying that there wouldn't be a
world whereth they fought ten times, Raquel doesn't win seven
of them. But that was the whole point about when
Rowsey was doing. Rowsy was just overwhelming before anyone had
a second to adjust, because that style of attack which
came from Judo was so unusual at the time, and
I still think it would be vi. I would say
of the top ten BC, she could still get what
three or four wins.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Maybe even five. This division has not evolved at all.
The fact that Pennington and Bueno Silva fought for that
title when both were just like kick punch, kick punch,
gas out, I mean, there was like so basic of
where we are. I don't disagree with that, Luke. One
of my other favorite bits are legitimately one of my
favor favorite bits is when when you you know it's

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a priority for you to get the pronunciation of the
Hispanic or Spanish based fighters correct. And I love when
missus Thomas sends you the voice note and then you
play it out, so it's like, you know, we head
to that, and then you know, conversely, the white skin folks,
you're like, yeah, fuck them, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:39:17):
My fa fuck them, fuck them, fuck them all right, all.

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
Right, two more and then we're out of here quickly.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
Taylor B. What are the best and worst parts about
growing older?

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
I watched a mail Bag episode from two years ago,
and you both looked much happier and healthier. Well, we
were getting paid a lot more, so I imagine there's
more bad parts than good parts. In MK history, when
we are the fattest, is when we are the most
well paid, in happiest questions about it. H But Luke,
there's a lot of bad. One of the bads at

(01:39:46):
forty seven for me is that a lot of mornings
to get out of bed, I have to like activate
my lower back, my hip and my upper ass area
that just randomly are so stiff that I can't even
roll over without pain. That part sucks. That part sucks
a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:40:02):
What's the good part?

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
I would say wisdom. I would say that even though
I still, you know, I still struggle with anxiety and depression,
and I'm fighting the good fight overall. I just like,
you know, you've been through enough battles in your life
and you've come out the other end. You you know,
whether you're putting your faith in something solid or you
just you know, believe you can bounce back. It's never

(01:40:27):
easy going through a trial, but the accumulation of like
I've been through this before, or I've been through worse,
or you know, when you're twenty three and the world
ends you, it's a lot easier to fall apart, right like,
but with the mental maturity of having gone through stuff
and knowing that that life is cyclical, that we go

(01:40:48):
through tests, but that you know this isn't the end.
I don't know. It helps me a lot, Luke, I
don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
I mean good parts youdom.

Speaker 4 (01:40:57):
Wisdom is a complicated one because, yes, you have seen
enough things in life by the time you've done two
twenty year rotations on this earth that patterns repeat and
you're able to avoid, certainly some of the worst mistakes
and recognize the time for change.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Like that's real.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
But you see one thing that's been really difficult for me,
and it's better now. But you know, getting older and
getting more getting wiser about the world also means getting
wiser about understanding who you actually are and some of
the bullshit you've been telling yourself for so long that
just comes unraveled as you get older, and then it

(01:41:38):
becomes a little bit hard to be like, Okay, well
then what does that mean that that's this thing I've
been saying about myself, either positively or negatively, actually isn't true.
And then you have to kind of figure out how
to move forward from there. That is actually way more
challenging than any other part of aging because the physical part, yeah,
it sucks, but honestly, man, if you stay moving around,

(01:42:00):
stay to a routine, you don't have to go crazy
deep squats, push, pull, hinge lift, throw, walk around, you'll
basically be okay for the most part.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
You'll have a good life.

Speaker 5 (01:42:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:42:13):
It's the Honestly, I think the biggest battle with aging
is you have this long worldview. The worldview I had
in my teens was pretty close to the one I
had in my twenties, was pretty close to the one
I had in my thirties. The one I have now
is pretty different. And getting to that position and all
the things that fall apart as a consequence, and then

(01:42:35):
you have to understand the world in very different terms.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
That has been really, really hard. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
Okay, okay, that is interesting, I would say also too,
I don't know if this relates to you, Luke, Like,
I feel like if I can go back and redo
my twenties with the confidence and belief in myself that
I have now, that I could accomplish anything. So I
feel like as I get older, I don't know, I
get out of my own way more, which means I
have much more self confidence and belief in myself, and

(01:43:02):
it really fuels you to do almost anything you want.
I also feel like.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Wisdom brings obviously the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Well really, I feel like wisdom brings the ability to
really enjoy the simple things in life so much more.
I mean, what's what's one of the best parts about
getting older seeing your kids grow? I can't wait to
be a grandfather, to be to be honest with you,
my wife's always like, slow your role here, let's let
the kids grow. I'm not looking for them to knock
anybody up. I'm just saying that those are some of
the joys that I can't wait to see. I appreciate

(01:43:30):
when I'm outside at midnight taking the dogs out to
crap and I look up at the sky and see,
you know, a full moon, and it's just beautiful things
like that that I would have ran past and didn't
you know, wouldn't have noticed in the past. Maybe also
it's a rejection of all this technology that's controlling our
brain and taking over that it's easier. I don't have
reading stamina anymore, but I can put on a record

(01:43:51):
and just you know, be enthralled through the headphones. Look,
there's some of those simplistic natures that I like with
growing old, but the physical part does suck pretty bad.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
It does.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
I mean, I would say least on this.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
I've become much more in touch with my own limits,
and I think that has affected my confidence, to be
perfectly honest with you, my confidence used to be much
easier and more sturdy. It's not as sturdy as it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Once was, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
Hey, Luke, there are no limits, brother.

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
I wish that was true. It is you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
If you're a man in a box, it's because that
box was put around you. Put it around yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:44:34):
Now that could be true too, That could be true too.
I can, I can.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
I can believe that right, we.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
Believe in you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Final one is a video question. This is David s
sending for Austin of JBR. Does that mean Sandin Dave Sandein?

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Let's let's walk.

Speaker 16 (01:45:08):
Shout out to morning Combat. I'm three fucking deep this Monday,
the week of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
I hope you and your.

Speaker 16 (01:45:18):
Families have a wonderful holiday weekend as well as the
rest of the holiday season. That being said, lt BC,
what are your predictions and three each for the first
year of Paramount plus and the UFC also shout out

(01:45:40):
to the JBR crew and this is your boy, no special,
fuck you, Let's get this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
So look, that's Austin. I believe of JBR. I'm not
really sure, but that's what the paper said. He was
thank you for that, Luke. What are your three?

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
This is asking hopes predictions for the.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Paramount, like, just what will change?

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
I think that's Austin AKA no special, Thank you Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
Can I just tell you I don't have proof of this.
I'm just gonna kind of figure this out.

Speaker 4 (01:46:12):
I think that the move away from pay per view
will be very well received and will lead to a
modest but real bump in interest in MMA and potential viewership,
certainly around the bigger events. Like I definitely think that
they're gonna look at that and say we made the
right call. However, I do not believe it will be transformative.

(01:46:32):
I do not believe this will return us to twenty
sixteen or something like that. I just don't think that's realistic.
That's one two. I think Gable Steveson, is this the
first year?

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
First year?

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
We said, yeah year, yeah, So I'll hold that one
because I was gonna say it's gonna become champion, but
that's probably twenty twenty seven, so I'll hold on to
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
I'm gonna make MMA a coverage fun again, Luke, because
I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I will tell you this, BC.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
I think after UFC White House, it's going to be
an interesting moment where I wonder if the UFC will
dial down a little bit some of the political messaging
and or currency that they've engaged in. I actually feel
like that might blow up in their face a little bit.
So that's two. And I think for the sport itself, PC,

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I don't think we're going to have many American champs
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
I do believe that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
I think my prediction is it's going to be a
lot of what you got already. It's going to be
international MMA running running the show.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I hope, And I'll just give you one because I
hope they play up personalities, rivalries and matchups over where
what the ESPN era became, which was just about content
filling farming out the factory. So I hope that you know,
whatever rivalries they identify whether it's Ilia versus Patty or

(01:47:52):
what have you, that they fuel those that they really
make this shit seem big again, that they're stars that
are identified. I think you do that, you spray that
to the masses. You're gonna get a bump, You're gonna
get a buzz, You're gonna get an improvement in the
sport will feel hot again. So that's ultimately my hope
slash prediction there. Thank you Austin for sending it in.
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Any final message, Yeah, everyone, tune in Jose versus BC
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Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
Let's see who wins. Let's see who wins.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. LT enjoy
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Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
Yes, Happy holidays, BC, Happy holidays to all of the
MK donks. Big special thanks to anyone who sent in
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Speaker 4 (01:49:40):
We out