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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Will belong to It's time to back. Oh yeah, like
only men can do. It's Monday morning, December, first of
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to you by Queer of O'Brian Campbell. Luke Thomas our
special guest this week. So happy to have him back
from MMA Fighting dot Com a great website form.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Wait, put that shot back.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Wait you can't be an ex marine? Well can you
be an ex attorney? And there could be a Jed
Meshu numero o dos in the house. Jed, welcome, thanks
for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Guys started off so aggressively.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I didn't said a word to Wow, this should be
a wild one.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
This morning, and my funck I couldn't go back to
fucking sleep to twenty Wow. Huh when did you go
to bed?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
American politics just swirling in your brain?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
No, just uh, fucking Amtrak makes me depressed.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Thank you very much. All right, well we are going
to bang two wee and have a great show for you.
One quick disclaimer, though, Jed, I don't I know you're
kind of new around here. This isn't your normal preview.
We're not going to protect a lot of people except
for my future employment of course. Uh. This will be
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Speaker 3 (02:00):
Like men do, like men do.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right there.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I've never liked that. Yeah, keep doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah. I think that might be why he keeps doing this. Yeah. Yeah,
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the final pay per view of twenty twenty five for
the UFC, and maybe ever given their current format, which
ends on ESPN this month, starts on Paramount CBS in
early twenty and twenty six. We're also going to react
to those first Paramount card announcements. But before we do that,
why don't we kick off here? Okay, and why don't
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pre game preview was brought to you by Quervo, and
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So let's enjoy that. Luke, you want to this one. Yes,
please get a little bit of that blanco going on
your white ass.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah you've you've cashed that one, all right?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, top me.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
There first for it.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, you already have it. I had some quervo last
night with the great Jose youngs Okay, so maybe we
should talk about that. I have to give respect despite
crashing out at the end of the episode due to
my Jose Young's did take me to the woods shed
the season two champion of of the main.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Card man because he's attend So congratulations of jose Uh.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Personally I love him, but competitively I want to fist
fight him. I just want you to know that. Okay,
thank you very much. I mean that like men do. Yeah,
that is that is like So, Luke, Thomas will will
mix it Chase right here.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Hey, he gave himself a healthy poor we he did.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I can support him.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
This time, you guys, definitely I have I end up
having more than you, bitch. I doubt that. Okay, I don't.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
When Jed's here, I've had a few four shots, yeah, all.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Right for shot, all right, here we go, all right
at a touch.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, thank you very much. This is for all the
Columbian women in my life.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Good. It's never bad, it really isn't. I'm a condonished.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
All right, fired up now, I am fired up, juice.
And we had a lot to get into today before
we get into UFC three twenty three, the final pay
per view of the year. While we were sleeping, while
we were holiday, and I hope everybody had a great
Thanksgiving weekend, Black Friday, whatever holidays you celebrate their. Shout

(05:52):
out to all you non US members who did nothing
this weekend. Thank you to Shack Majority for covering all
my shifts at CBS Sports. That Canadian fella.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
How many times did he techs about it?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
None? But I did retweet him just just in case. No,
I'm kidding. Hey, you covered Canadian Thanksgiving for him? I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I'm sure I.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Did that for him. So we did get some announcements here.
The first card of the paramount era for UFC will
go down January twenty fourth. He Mobile Arena in Las Vegas,
pretty stack card top to bottom, a lot of names.
The criticism on the spinoff, though, obviously had to do
with the choice of the main event. Armanseruki and the
number one contender at lightweight will not get the title shot.

(06:30):
Neither will the champion. By the way Eliot Taporia who said,
for personal reason, it's going to have to take some
time off. Luke, I know you don't want to talk
about failed relationships here in the dating of these fighters.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I don't mind talking about it as a factor that
contributes to his athletic life. I just don't care about
the We.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Tend to believe maybe a divorce or separation in his
private life relationship wise, is going to keep him out
of action. So the UFC went in the direction instead
of Patty Pimblet versus Justin Gaechee for the interim lightweight
title over adult response. The cole main event dooric One
as the as the women's go. Amanda Newness comes out
of retirement to face former teammate Kayla Harrison for the

(07:05):
bandam Way title. A lot of good fights underneath that,
and then you hear rumors. I don't know if it's
official that the following week and be back to back
pl e's in this era. UFC heading to Australia for
you confirmed that oh UFC three twenty five, which Alexander
Volkanowski in a rematch for the featherweight title with the
Lopez despite moves sorry Ive Loev Laron Murphy, a lot

(07:28):
of us thinking, uh, we're gonna break that down, but
but got a little bit spicy back and forth with
the competitors involved, so spicy that yeah, yeah, we got
on the horn and called our friends at Tuervo for
a little something we call shots Fire. Yeah, of course
shots Fire is presented by Quervo. Now's a good time

(07:48):
to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. Before we get
our guest, Jed Mishu's reaction to this, Let's go to
the videotape, armand Saruki and caught up with ESPNS brtt
Okamoto to react to and being left out of the
next title show.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
I knew, I already knew Patty was gonna fight with
Ila to Puria in January, but I didn't know they're
gonna put They're gonna do interim title versus Gage and Patty.
They already set up that all things, Uh, you didn't fight,
and I think this is you see game plan. It's

(08:23):
not like a family issue or something. Is they want
to make star Patty Pimlet to fight for the title
with Touria has a bigger name and make it like
a big fight.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Managers.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
They already know that they want to make the make
fight Ela versus Paddy. I already knew that four or
five months ago. They told me, No, it's gonna happen
like be be ready, Like they know I could beat everybody.
That's why they didn't give me a title. The petty

(08:55):
for me, it's a easy work dressed in. It's an
easy work. I easy or bullshit guy.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Like a petty.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
He'd be just one ranked number twelve and like they
made the fake ranking and put him on the five.
But I hope, uh, Justin gonna beat his ass his
ass and we're gonna forget about Petty Justin.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
If you need to help, let me know. I'll fly.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
I'll fly to you and help you.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I mean I wanted him to win.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
You know that bull guy.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I hate him. I I hate him.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
By the way calls him on a bullshit guys is great.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Pimblet will be fighting his first opponent under the age
of thirty eight in three years, against the thirty seven
year old Justin Gaichi. Before we get some reaction here,
Eliot Taporia did jump in on the socials saying, Patty
win your next fight, hands up, chimed down and armand peta.
This dance is for you.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I don't get the dance. Yeah, this is BC at
his prom By the way.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
That looks like me at our London podcast festival, Lot showed.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
The puzzle pieces in the back are quite nice. Okay,
let's start.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Right here with our guests. Jed Mishu. I'm sure you
reacted to this, and I'm gonna guess maybe it was negative.
Why is Armand getting the shaft here?

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Sure that's a I mean, the cynical answer is they
don't want him to potentially beat Illiot Tupuria and this.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
They don't want him to be Patty. You're saying even further,
they don't want him to be Ilio.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I mean, I think the the cleanest view that I
have on this, and I could totally be wrong.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
It's like, once Armand beat the shit out of I
mean he oh Dan Hooker right. Once he does that,
he has to be the guy to fight Ilia next,
unless there's an interim champion, because that guy naturally gets preference.
So let's have you know, Patty and Gaechee fight. And
that's why armand Serukein is not fighting for an interim

(10:52):
belt because they would rather Iliot Tupuria not fight armand
which he could win. I think we all think Ilia
could beat Arman. I also think we all acknowledge that's
his stuff is fight, So let's give him an easier
one whenever we do get Ilia back in there. That
feels to me like the simplest thing.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Look, is this punishment for armand fighting just once each
of the last three years, pulling out of the title
shot in January during fight week with a back injury,
during weight cut issues, and let's say it having enough
family money where you can fly private, eat camel after
a win and negotiation wise not be subject to the
same pushing and pulling from the UFC because he has
that leverage. Or is it as simple of what Jed saying,

(11:31):
they think that he might crush Patty, not to mention
might take the title familiar.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I mean, the reality is this is not super complicated
to figure out. If the promotion really likes you, you
will get fast tracked, and if they don't get yes,
you will get slow tracked. I mean, there's this is
not new. This is not very controversial to say. Now
there are other factors. As you indicate PC, they clearly
they want to put some muscle and some energy behind

(11:55):
Patty pimblet fair enough also on its own terms. I
don't think any of us will argue Patty versus gay
Chie is somehow a bad fights.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Patty needs a fight like this. I think this fight
makes total sense. I think this fight's good. Interested in
this fight.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
The location of it is weird, but I also I
even totally get why they're doing it, Like I get
this being the main event over it's it's weird to
hold that competing idea of like this is the greatest
woman's fight of all time, but it's not as important
as an interim title fight between two men.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like I get it, this is.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Their first event, that this is the first paramount event.
They the idea is going to be bringing in new people, right,
like here are new.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Fans who have never had the product. There's no pay
per view.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Buriered entry, it's at an earlier star time like CBS
is going to get people in on it. You don't
want to end that event with what could be a
snoozer because Kayleab versus Amanda could be a boring fight
for a casual observer. I would bet you anything you
want to bet right now that Justin Geygee fighting Patty
Pimblet's going to be fun as hell for however long

(12:57):
it goes like it's Justin Geechee, he is the most
proven commodity. What about gay Chee Armand I mean that
could be boring because Armond might just tax and run
over them.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, And by might, I mean I think the overwhelming likely.
The only reason they didn't do Armin gae Chee was
because they want to build Patty into a star. They
want to give him almost conor treatment. They want it
to be a unification when he does fight Ilia. But Looke,
does this mean that if you're Arman, you're essentially you're
definitely gonna have to take another fight, right or you're
gonna be out for six to nine months.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
He's got but like you said, he's got, he got
family money.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
He doesn't have to fight for money. He could just sit.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
I know, but he kind of has to fight just
to keep his his weapons sharp, you know what I mean,
Like he might lose the entire year. I mean consider something, right.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
So they lost the entire last year until Hooker.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
So understand, So he they're gonna have this fight in January.
Then there's gonna have to be some kind of title unification.
Now that could happen at the White House. Let's assume
on that calendar that it does. So then you have
it in mid June, and then the winner of that
will have to defend against Armon. Except here's the problem.
What if somebody gets injured? What if there's some kind
of weird result and they have to do some kind
of automatic rematch or you know, some kind of way

(14:05):
where it delays. If I'm arman, I'm planning on twenty
twenty seven, there's just no way to expedite this. And
the thing I'm gonna say about this is, look, if
you get booked for a UFC title fight and you
fumble it, whether it was an injury that was accidental
or you missed wait, whatever it was, what the UFC
counts on is did you cross the finish line to
help us make this fight possible. Did the train leave

(14:27):
the station or were you Amtrak and Luke Thomas's train,
which means you didn't get to shit on time and
you fucked up everything, or.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Were you Osborne and everyone got on board or everyone
got on board.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
But the point I'm the point I'm trying to make
is we can all agree that the promotion is going
to look at that very unfavorably. My only question is
when is Arminsar Yukian's punishment over right? When do we decide, okay,
he's had enough. I don't know what the answer is.
It feels like to me they already did that and
he should have been involved in the beginning of because
by the way, Bce.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Like he said, he turned around in two months, he
said he and.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He that fight was not very difficult for him. He
ran over Dan Hooker to me, I understand it. I
don't hate the fight as such, but it's gonna fuck
up things there. Robin Peter to pay Paul on this one.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
I don't love it, and I'm not saying this is
a consolation, but armand would get first call if something
happens between Patty and Gaechee or if Ilia can't come
back as early as possible. He could be back in
that title picture. This is not some silent way of
setting up Ilia versus Islam, right, This isn't freeing to.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Poria to do that. Dana said they weren't doing that.
But if they do that once again, if you're Arman,
what are you getting back into the calendar? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And Armand retweeted that head to head like tail the
tape of him versus Data that some fan created, which
shows you the anger that he rightfully has at this moment.
Is there any silver lining to this matchmaking from the idea?
And I'm sounding like company man, right your hair, but
I'm giving you the Devil's advocate side of it. Is
there any side of you that's saying I don't necessarily
love this announcement or the Vulcan Diego Lopez too announcement,

(16:00):
but we want them to get back into building stars,
do we know? Let me say this, and and if
you're going to slow play Elia versus Patty, I'd rather
slow play Elia versus Patty than rush it out January
twenty fourth without without a build.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
My view is this, It's that again to the point
you raised there are ways to look at that and
be like, here's some sense of there's some sense to
this matchmaking the Lopez want. It's a little harder to
justify for me. But again we will talk about that
in a minute. My issue is that what was the
first pay per view in the espan are Do you
guys remember.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Was it a Holly Holm Brooklyn or was it so
TJ No?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
No, it was UFC two thirty six, which was the
one you attended, which was Atlanta. It was the first
pay per view.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
And the first No that was not that was like
in I looked it up this morning. That was in June,
that fight.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, please double check this.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It was in May or June.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, double checks.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It would never believe that.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
It was the first pay per view. I don't believe
it was the first numbered event. It was the second
meeting between Holloway and Max. My point being, well, first
of all, before I can go for it, we have
to we have to make sure look at the Wikipedia
entry for UFC two thirty six, Please and read out
what it says.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Because I did this, were trusting Wikipedia?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Now well a little bit.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
I'm just telling you right now. I went to Suhudo
di La Shaw first, because we know.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
That was the first thing. That was the first event
it was and I was there for that.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
So there was a scheduled UFC two thirty three after
that that did not happen.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
It was canceled.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
That was also supposed to be Suhudo Dila Shaw A
couple of fight nights here UFC two thirty four Adasania
versus Silva.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
That was the first thing that Australia. Yeah, that was
February twenty nineteen. Okay, let me double check this motherfucking shit.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, Luke, you're wrong.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
You know what the first role last time I want
to double check.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Because we do have to kind of put put this
to raps to get into this weekend's card. But what's
the justification on Volk versus Lopez too? Is that just
to give a mech exciting Brazilian Mexican guy who can
cross both countries a chance to go out there and
do it a second time, even though he lost to
Mostar Love, who was more deserving than him. Right now,
I'm with Luke's argument on the other thing.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Against the first one to thirty six. ESPN Plus became
the exclusive distributor of the UFC pay per view. Okay,
never mind, hold on, I'll come back for it. Yeah,
dead wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Get ready for Friday, folks, Dead dead wrong.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Sh There's no way to really justify this fight. But
I think the way it happened is what Luke said earlier,
Like they like Diego Lopez, he says.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
It was a lot.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I was right. In the US per an extension of
its rights agreement with the ESPN through twenty twenty five,
ESPN Plus became the exclusive distribute of the UFC pay
per views for residential customers beginning at UFC two thirty six, because.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
They extended the deal shortly after this started.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
So there was a they had a deal. They had
a five year deal in seven.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Well, what was the first one that you had to
have the ESPN?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It was Holly versus GDR.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
I was there for that one. Was it that one?

Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's what I thought. I thought that was the first
pay per view and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So this is the first one after the extension. But
this is twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, and didn't kick off in twenty eighteen the original deal.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
No, that was Brooklyn twenty nineteen. I was for that
one January.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Why is this relevant?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I don't fucking know.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
By the way, was UFC two to eight, so that
was way that was way, No.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Two thirty four.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
We just said was February of twenty nineteen, which is
the first year of ESPN.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
You know who, that's the first year exactly? He would
should know.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
This media all right to close on Lopez Volkanovski, I
understand that Murphy and Evelo ever are not sexy Joe Murphy,
but Murphy took a sexy win to get into this point.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I'll just case for the title shot is decent, not great.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
No, it's better than Lopez, who has the worst case
for a title shot all the time.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
They should have done al Jo. You're right, they should
have done Alga. That nobody would have complained about the
champion name value all fight we haven't seen yet. If
you still want to make Murphy and Evil fight each other,
that's fine. How does Lopez get to cut the line
like this coming off?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh, I don't I can't justify Lopez cutting the line.
I'm just saying, I don't know that Sterling.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Is the He's not the most host. Why not.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's just they they clearly just don't want to give
it to Larone and ev Louev for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't believe Evv's ever going to fight for the belt.
They seem to hate him for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yes, I don't know why Murphy's not getting it. He
had so much momentum.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They're not doing it.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
This is the most not the I honestly think it's
the second worst title shot ever given.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
In the modern era. Wow.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think moscoital Ousman two was worse because that fight
had no bearing on anything this feels.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Don't forget Holly Holm got the GDR fight off of
two defeats. Yeah, well, Josie Aldo.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Also the GDR fight was because Chris Cyborg wouldn't play
ball and they did.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
That's at least like it's also bad. Yeah, but he
actually won, so he didn't beat Mauritian that first anyway,
Thank you so much that much. You heard his name earlier.
Let's say hi to the fourth member of our team today,
the producer director Bong Enthusiast. Yeah, I got to say it.
Son of a horned up Ozzy who over Thanksgiving, I'm

(21:04):
told by Long Island Luke no seed, and he can
confirm here that his father approached him about this subject.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
What it was brought up at the dinner table. He
said something like, uh, oh, I want to come into
your office one day, And I said, Dad, they would
fucking love if you came into the office because they
want to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
He means a arrive in or does he mean like
what like come whichever.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
Way you want, because that's just And then he said, yeah,
they got to meet a horned up Ozzie or something.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
He said.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
He basically quoted it, and I was like, oh god,
it's embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
So it got to him, but he didn't seem he
didn't seem upset about it.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
He looked bothered by this man who jacks off into
register comes into money.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
That's disgusting. All right, Hey, great to see it, Luke.
I didn't want to shit on your show earlier. I
was just looking to shit on my loss to Jose.
But what is the future of prop quiz after I
just got you know? I mean, look, I got some
issues with you, but I won't.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Bring him up here. I mean, Jose's the champion. We
move on from that.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
BC would love to get you to maybe maybe you
want to join this bracket.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
We do have a new bracket going. You know you
can get in there and need.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Some time to lick my wounds.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
All right.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
They're calling this my own my own three gump margarita moment,
that's what they're calling this.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Is that? Right? Yeah, that happened. I've had a couple
of those.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It was a tough one for you, but it was.
It was a tough day for me. All right, Hey,
thank you for all that pre stuff. Now we get
into what happens this Saturday. In fact, I think we
should shoot shoot take right, velask stop, Well, let's go. Uh.
We start off, of course, as we always do, as
this is the final pay per view of the ESPN
Era by grading a letter grade on UFC three twenty

(22:33):
three this Saturday, two title fights atop the marquee showcasing
the lower weight divisions on the men's side, and a
lot of names like I just completely forgot that Edson
Barbosa and Marvin Vittoria are on the early prelimbs of
this event. Jed the guest as Luke Checks's email, I think, uh,
give me maybe checks his stock.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I'm looking at this ESPN report. The deal begins at
UFC two thirty six on April thirteenth, The exclusive homes
the events.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
You cannot let this go.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, okay, I'm happy.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
He was originally using it to make some point about this,
like right, oh, by the way side, this.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Is March eighteenth, nineteen. ESPN Plus will be the exclusive
distributor of UFCEE payer view events the United States through
twenty twenty five. The first event will be UFC two
thirty six on April thirteenth, which is headlined by holloway Port.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
You're saying there was not a pay per view for
the use there was.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Two thirty four. Yes. What I'm trying to tell you
is this deal didn't get consummated until after the fact.
I'm looking at this ship. The deal begins at UFC
two thirty six on April.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Motherfucker tay I take The first UFC card was January
with Dila Sean, So there were no pay per views in.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Between pay per views, but they weren't the platform.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Exclusive ESPN I begue, yeah, because you could buy them
on regular That's right.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
One was which one was the beginning of the ESPN
plus pay per view era for number.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Of events beginning of the exclusive, but you they were
you could also get them getting.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
After so they didn't go exclusive until yeah to thirty six.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
In the end, you're still wrong, but we love you.
You're also kind of right. More importantly, you're an asshole,
and this does not matter.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I just wanted to make sure I understood much. I
wanted to make sure I understood what the terms were.
What the terms were, that's all that's right to you.
To Luke, I'm happy to be correct. Oh fuck off.
I don't care about being wrong. I just want to
know what the truth was. Anyway, the point I.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Was about nine to eleven and you're like, no, can't
talk about this show.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
The point I'm trying to make was the first event
that they had to launch the ESPN Plus era featured
big names in big important title fights with worthy contenders
now Max Holloway moving up give.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
But that didn't launch the ESPN Plus era for pay
per viewing, only made it exclusive. You could get it
on ESPN Port.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Dude, if you're going to make everyone funnel into one
kind of destination for a pay per view driver, you
want to have big names in order to do that.
And what I'm trying to explain this, I can under
I can see some of what Paramount is doing with that,
But to me, they're playing with the main events a
little bit more to generate that, whereas you got a
little bit more organically.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yes, with the lightweight in the middle of a three four.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
That was the only point I want to make from
the beginning for doing that. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
The rest of the fights on this, it's pretty damn good.
I love that Rose Grosso fight. I'm here for the
wall though.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
The car is sneaky ass figuredo on that car as well,
rumors of Umar. There's a bunch of good fights.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
All right, So can you can you grade three twenty
three after we shoot this? Uh yeah, we're going to
do it. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I'll give it. We're talking about just card qual everything.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Three twenty three, we're talking limber.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
I'll give it a B plus. I'll give it a
B plus.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
There's some death, I mean Macy Barber's on. There's a few.
Like I'm saying, they loaded the names.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
To give you some care level.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
They did not.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
They did.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
I think it's nobody should care about.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
This is very stupid thing. I think it's perfect.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
It's a perfectly designed card. Because it's a hard tight
rope to walk. You have to you don't want to
end your you know, previous broadcast relationship with somebody. I'm
just like, totally phone it in because that seems shitty.
But you want to stack your new stuff, like you
want the January slate to be better. Yeah, so they
had to walk al and I love this card. The

(26:09):
main event is we'll talk about it. Obviously it's an
objectively good fight, but like we've seen it, whatever come
into it rips everything else in the main card's good.
There's a lot of depth, Like I intend to have
a very good time on Saturday. So hey, minus, no
bets will be barred when you know bets will be barred.
Casual fans probably aren't gonna give a shit about this card,
and that's fine, but like for the hard course, for

(26:31):
the people watching this program, I think this is a
very good card.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
The only reason I wouldn't give it an a minus
is not because I don't disagree with the word of that.
I think that's all correct. I just think if we're
going to grade cards when they have star power and
we give it a boost in grade, we kind of
have to knock it a little bit because it doesn't
have it. But dude, you got the best bantamweight ever
with the second best flyweight ever and two fights that
are not bullshit ass fights like there's a and to
the point you raise Talbot and Suhudo on down the list,

(26:55):
it's good, by the way, Hello, Marvin Vittori is on
the early pre on this.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
There's a ton that's get good.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
So that's okay. But like the fact that he's teetering
kind of makes it its own drama point.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let's get into it. Let's start with the main event here.
History on the line from Rob de Voalashvilier pound for
pound stalwart riding thirteen five I'm sorry sorry, riding a
fourteen fight win streak since losing his first UFCA bouts.
He wins on Saturday, he moves into a second place
tie with Kamoro Usman for the longest consecutive streak in
UFC history. Even more important, he can become the first

(27:28):
UFC champion in a single calendar year to make four
defenses of his title, in which he did to open
the year against unbeaten umarn O Maga, Matov, got O'Malley
a second time, got Corey Sanagan, and will now turn
it around on just a couple months notice. In a
rematch with former champ piyodor Yan. Now Yan has said
when they fought in twenty twenty three, the last fight

(27:49):
in a stretch in which Jan lost three of four,
including three three or five including three in a row
right there controversially against four or five Yeah, two split decisions,
the DQ loss and then the animous decision lost to
uh the champion Marob before he was champion. What Yan
is claiming is he was only fifty percent in that
fight because of a broken right hand. If you check

(28:09):
the punch stats, you'll see he barely used his right hand.
But coach John Wood of Camp Morob is like Yo Bro,
we also had a broken right hand in that fight
and could barely fit the glove over it, and we
had a broken toe in the O'Malley rematch, and against Umar,
we had a serious back injury mixed with staff infection
and an open wound on our leg that would have
pulled almost anybody from this. So while that feels good

(28:32):
for Pyoto Jan's chances to say riding a three fight
win streak, I was injured the last time. Look at
who I am since then? Does this injury factoid matter
where it did matter in Perira Ankliav too. It did
it did matter? Did it? I didn't think the injury mattered.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
I thought it mattered that he fought five times in
ten months or whatever like that.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
He just came in and bulldozed him. Yeah, but then
when he was healthy, he kicked the shit out. Yeah,
but that's less because he's Handelsberger's more. Jez just got style.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
Don't give a shit about fighters saying they were injured.
You fight or you don't fight. If you show up
to fight, I don't really care what condition you were
in because we never know what's true what's not. Everybody
comes in less than one hundred percent. Jodean chose to
fight and he got womped. I rewatched that fight this morning.
It's deeply uncompetitive. I'm gonna rename my fantasy that night

(29:24):
just for funds.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah no, I don't care about that.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Care about watching the two guys fight and make a
determination on him.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
With that said, you do expect a more competitive piodor
jan If if not for the change in injury, how
about the fact that he's riding a three fight win streak.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I would I could see a case for him being
more competitive. Sure, I mean, there.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Was a lot hard to be less competitive.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, I mean there was forty nine attempt
to takedowns in that fight. If at fifty and perhaps
would do well.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Let me tell you, I got a text about ten
minutes ago from Aaron Bronstadter. Okay, he says, last time
a Rob faced Yan, he attempted forty nine takedowns, which
is the same number as the amount of times LT
watched versus Max two. That's an Aaron bro that's a Canadian,
a Bronze.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
He was dunking on me in your dams. Well, it's true.
I mean, there was just an overwhelming flood of attempts
and the guy just again, you can stop half of them.
Even if you stop half of his takedowns, you're still
giving up nearly twenty five fucking takedowns. Again, I'm just
sort of speaking in proportions here. I do think there's
a lot to improve on. And the big issue for
me was if you could you can see him stop

(30:24):
a variety of different takedown attempts that Morob tries. But
even if Morob fails, he just gets to the back. Yeah, right,
and then here's Matt returning you or he's doing other stuff.
Where he's tripping out the post leg or whatever. So
he's got all these different things where what all he
has to do is get a hold of you and
start an offensive cycle. So do I think that john

(30:45):
has better answers to maybe thwart some of that? Probably?
Probably is that enough to win? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Can we bring a long island look for an update
on the DraftKings odds of the main event at this moment.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, my app is hold on, we're right here, We're
right here.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Oh god, Johnny on the spot right always has its.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Minus or ten plus.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Okay that I gotta say, your favorite earlier of the week.
I'm sure he was a bigger favorite earlier in the
week money money. Despite Morob's momentum, Like I said, he's
on the verge of tying second for longest wind streak
where we're praising Islam rightfully for tying Anderson Silva there
he's pumped upon top three basically. I mean that, like
the dude's amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Fighter of the year right now, fighter of the year.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
And looking to lock that up right now. While it's
a little that losing streak for Janna is a little
overrated when you consider the declu q loss. The two
split decisions lost, particularly that one against what Mohamalley. You're
going to say you thought he won.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I thought he came. That was pretty close.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Do you think, simultaneously the three fight win streak is
overrated or did you see a pyotr Yan who cleared
his head, cleared, you know, refreshed his body and is
looking to be at age thirty two as great as
we've ever seen him.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Know that it's overrated, underrated, It's just it is where
it is. He is one of the three best bandam
weights on Earth.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I think he is uniquely poorly suited to fight Morob
Dwalash Philly. Everyone has the most well rounded bandom weight.
He's poorly suited to fight him.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
I don't know that that's true that he's the most
well rounded band wait, but like you certainly got a case,
but like, yeah, he's that's not You don't beat Marob
by being good at everything. You beat Marob by being
really good at one thing and like the only other.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
If I was trying to like have thought about this
a lot because I would like Marob to lose. I
think he's I just straight.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
Up like I I have nothing but respect for him,
like he is accomplished incredible amount. I do not really
enjoy watching him fight that much. He's just not that
interesting to me as a fighter. Really, I think I
think he's hacked the game in.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
A way that he is good.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
But like when you shoot forty nine, you shoot forty
nine takedowns attempt like you're not trying to hurt somebody.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And at the end, at the core of.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
This, I would like you to attempt to hurt your
opponent and not just make them tired.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
But that's not the game.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Like the fighting is a game, and he is playing
it better than anyone ever in the history of this
white class. I will absolutely respect him, I would like
for someone else. But John's just you either have to
be super violent and get Morob out of there, or
maybe win the first.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Three rounds and hold on.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
But pyoto Jan is like notoriously slow at starting. So
this is just a super bad matchup for him because
he's not gonna get Morab out of there with like
one offensive explosion and he's just gonna slowly succumb to.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
That's the perfect point to transition here on maybe how
he would go about changing for the rematch. Jan on
the UFC Countdown show, did sit down with cameras and
his coach rewatched the first fight on the big screen
for the first time, taking you know, detailed notes and
talking to the camera and all that, and his coach said,
and Yan echoed it, the only way to beat Morab
is to be the one chasing him, not being chased

(33:53):
by him. And due to Yan being a notorious slow starter,
as you mentioned, Yan says in there through translation, I
gotta come back and come out much faster. Can he
do that in a twenty five minute fight and have
the gas tank to be there at the end with.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
If he doesn't, it's it's curtains for him. I mean,
I'm not going to say it's exactly like Mayweather, but
you knew how it was. If you were going to
beat Mayweather, your first six rounds are the most important
ones because you're not winning them after that period. He's
taking that away from you. I'm not saying Morob is
exactly like that, but it's a similar kind of doom
that's winning rounds four and.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Five right Ironically, that's kind of how Yon fights. He does.
He takes a couple of rounds to figure out take
that snapshot and figure it out.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I know that to to Jed's point, that's a terrible
matchup against the guy who's shot out of a fucking
cannon the minute that day the ref says, you know,
time to go. So I think again, the question to
me is, like, to what extent he can stop takedown twickstent,
he can get him off of his back TwixT, then
he can break rips, And if the first fight is
any indication, I think there's probably a lot to say
that there is. By the way, Morob, folks don't talk

(34:50):
about us enough on tape study. He's one of the
very few fighters who actively grabs his own gloves, which
is completely legal and totally okay. And guys have told
me who fought Morob that it's really hard to break
his grip because he's actually grabbing on the inside of
his glove. Hardcore and that apart, Yeah, yeah, it's real difficult.
So like, there's just so many Again, I'm not picking

(35:12):
against Morob until somebody like physically makes me like, you
need to show me what it looks like to beat Morob.
The one thing I will say is the turnaround is
pretty quick, and he does carry a lot of injury
because Rob seems a little on the reckless side. I
don't know if that's an untire of characterization, so you
never know exactly how overconfident he might be with some

(35:33):
kind of debilitating.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Factory overtrained or overtrained finding out.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
But at the same time, you see, wuldn't you agree
if there is anybody who you would not worry about
being overtrained, it's right probably him.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
But like we didn't have any worry about that with
Poton until it caught up with him. So when you
find out from Rob's coaches, you know, we play that
sound all the time that like, oh, last fight, Morob
did a twenty five minute you know, full fight simulation
five hours before the fight, like just had this energy,
had to get rid of it. I'm trying to make
the case that Yan could be a dog, you know,

(36:03):
a sleeping dog here in terms from a betting standpoint,
and nobody, nobody knows more about betting besides you than
Long Island Luke and James Cross. I'm wondering if that
needs to be addressed, The idea that morav is trying
extra hard to add on to a year in which
he was already fighting through injuries that would have sidelined
anybody and turning around on such short terms, Is this

(36:25):
the fight that that catches up to him? And what
would that look like if it did? Just injury?

Speaker 4 (36:29):
That is the most if you're trying to build the
Peotian case, that's the most compelling part to me is
like this is just a lot like if you fight
this frequently, things happen, like we've seen it forever in
the history of the sport. I to me, it feels
like that'll just make this more competitive than the first
one was, because the first one was deeply on competitive.
And like Peotrion's very good, he'll come in with some

(36:50):
new ideas. He might he stuffed a lot of takedowns
in the first one. He'll be a lot better at it.
Maybe he'll have some more ideas, But like the math
stays the same.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Even if Morab is.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Injured, you know he's allegedly been injured every fight, right,
He's going to do what he's going to do, and
how does not just how do you stop that? You're
purely how do you stop that and score? Because if
if your whole thing is Josie Aldo lost to Morob
because Mob just held him and Jose couldn't get offense
off even though he stopped him from doing what he

(37:22):
wanted to do. He has to find a way to
score points. You know, he had some success with leg
kicks in the first one. I think that that's probably
like a decent idea to go back to.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
His uppercuts are good against Marob when he comes in,
but it also leaves you open for the take uppercuts.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Maybe some body work. I think I'd like to see
elbows from him this time around, just because like that
could be more damaging in the interior.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
But like I I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
How you get over the fact that Morob is going
like kyoder Jan's game is to win the later rounds.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Nobody's better at that than Morob. It's just like check
the Umar fight for for nothing on him, and he's
going to just turn it up for the year.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
He is inevitable.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Betting expert Long Island lu No seda Uh making a
case here for plus money on Yon. Can you make
that same case. Don't tell me you got a parlay
on this. Tell me how to bet pyodor Yan in
this play?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
I mean, how to bet Pyodr Yan would be like
the plus thirteen and a half spread bet whenever that drops, Like,
maybe he could win around.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I don't think there's much value betting on Pyodryan here.
I'm not gonna act he went around, you can win around. Yes,
he went around.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Spread bet might be interesting, depending on that.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
One thing I'm talking about that I feel like no
one else is talking about. Yes, this is Morob's fourth
title defense in a year, but it's also his third
in six months.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
Yeah, that's fucking crazy, dude, and I'm a little worried
he's going to be burnt out. But uh, you already
know we ride it with Morobi.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, yeah, because you're a long islander.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Morob turns thirty five in January.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
If this was another guy, I'd be like, I don't
know how smart this is. Yeah, you know, but Marin.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Shire, we can talk about that with Josh Van in
just a minute. Je fifth fighting twelve months.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, So for me, I'm like fifteen months too. Yeah,
I'd like we can go seven and eighteen. I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
His professional career started in twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
One, and so I was I was watching some of
his fights in preparation for today, and the commentators were
like during his debut, They're like, he started wrestling six
months before his debut, and I'm like, how the fuck's
he fighting for a world tittle? But anyway, the point
I'm trying to make is there's so many risk factors
in the Morob fight that for anyone else I'd be like,
red flag, red flag, red flag, And maybe they'll turn
to be red flags for him. But again, until I

(39:23):
see it, I cannot pick against this machine.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
It's just weird. This would totally turn the division upside
down in a way that we just didn't expect. I
think Umar is still the guy. I think if Umar
just Jackson anymore. Okay, Umar was compromising in the first
fight anymore. No, Umar had a broken hand in the
first fight, and I think he learned the lesson of
oh my god, I got to jack up my card
yard levels that have never been seen before.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I think he is strategist in his corner.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
If anybody can be, it feels like it's going to
be Umar.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
But if Jan flips the script on us, like he'll stop,
he'll start rob short of this runaway train run that
may catch up to Islam. If Islam doesn't start getting active,
if you understand.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Something, if Mob didn't wasn't headlining this weekend and all
we had was the Umar fight, the O'Malley rematch and
then the Sanhagen fight, He's still Fighter of the Year.
Like that run alone of beating guys that good, who
would be over him?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I mean, I don't disagree.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I think I'd pick it, but uh, there would be
decent cases for Islajev and personally I think there'd be
a pretty good case for Valentina ship Chenko, but nobody
wants to do that.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, who's the who was the first? I'm sorry. The
JDM fight is great, but JDM plus Boykano is not
as good as beating Umar, Sandagen and O'Malley in a rematch.
I don't consider that the same.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I agree, I would still put Morab.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
A lot of people.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Would put Islam.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Will put it again if Morab loses, He's not going.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
If Armand had excuse me, if Armond had lost to
Islam and then Islam b JDM and JM, that's a
different argument.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
People love getting it wrong. I mean, you remember in
twenty nineteen, people voted masvit all over Sonia of the
year and I'm just like the year he ask though. Yeah,
he had three wins, they were they were high profile ideas.
But guess what is he beat? So inaug he won
an all time war against Gaston in the interim and
he knocked out Robert Waiteker to win the champions It's

(41:13):
a pretty that's good year. That's one of the greatest
years ever.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Ye great year.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
If Morob beats Yeah, and he's got one of the
greatest years ever, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Like it's it's it's.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
O'Malley in a rematch again, he's got a sex crack out.
The finished finished him San Haagen, who was as ready
as he was going to be for that fight. And
then to beat Yan another former champion of the best year,
that is fucking insane.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Technically, Tito Ortiz had already done four title defenses in
a twelve month period. This is the first time to
do it in a calendar year. But this is such
a different era than then in terms of the quality
of opponents that you're facing and the evolution of the
sport that it is. Dude, I messed up. You ever
mess up your your dials over here and you just
can't get back. It's like when someone sits in your car.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
The middle one is the program feed, the other one
is the side to him.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, but there's third one two that I'm playing with.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
And he's doing anything but his third.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Just keep playing with it, see what happens. Let's get
into someone with only on total. Recalling that bar in Mars.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I went to boot camp with a guy with a
third nipple, like like a real wonder like because there
are different levels.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I didn't closely examine it. Mol they called him third nipples.
So that's what you know.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Danny Garcia has a sixth toe, and you knew a
guy with one ball?

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Am I even?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Can anyone hear me?

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Danny Garcia has a sixth toe?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty wild. That is pretty well Yeah yeah, Luke,
that would suck me up.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
That would fuck me up.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Look at that a lot like once check, check one, two, third.
There we go. Say, if I can take this.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Is the voice of God Brian Campbell and you're a.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Bitch, get your shit together, Luke Thomas, give me a prediction.
How does Morob Devalishvili become.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
The fighter of the Year. I think he decisions y on.
Yan's tough. He's fucking durable. He's been in the trenches too.
You can't say he hasn't. He is well rounded to
your point, and he stuffs a lot of takedowns. He
does a lot of all offense. But I just think,
over the course of time, would you bet well, let
me ask this Long Island Luke. If this were a
three round fight, what would the odds look like relative

(43:11):
to now? Same or worse?

Speaker 6 (43:13):
They'd be a little closer closer, Yeah, a little closer,
but I still would heavily.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
And this is the probably is like.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Yan's even worse than three rounders, like he's better suited
to five.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Perhaps even that's true, it just feels like, you know,
it's like trying to fight the dawn. It's just going
to happen.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I'm gonna go marab By decision. But I am really
getting that itch that people are overlooking on as it.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Should be reserved for the co main event. To me,
that's much more interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You have a main event prediction. Oh it's what are
we doing?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Decision?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
That's the bet every time is mob By. It's a
shocker that he finished on a malley. It's like his
second finish in a lifetime or some dumb shit.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Uh yeah, pick.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Him by decision every time you're gonna be I mean
way more often.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
That he's becoming one of the best fighters in the
history of the sport accumulation wise, like the run of
names is insane.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Beat George sat Pierce takedown record too.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I mean to take his last eight nine fights. Give
me anyone in history who had to run that rival
that outside of like John Jones, like seriously, like it's
becoming one of those things. It really is.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
And and he did it all without being entertaining at all,
which is really impressive.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Damn Okay, but would he have beaten would Morob have
beaten Prime Al Joe at Feather? Yeah, at Feather, I'm sorry,
take that back. Yeah, a high level of confidence.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Yeah, probably probably.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Just more dynamic.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
But it's Al Joe has skills he doesn't have, that's
for sure.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
But somebody this was like I don't know, like three
fights ago Morob and I don't remember they tweeted out
and maybe it was like Zane Simon was like TJ
Dela Shaw prime TJ Dela Shaw versus Morob, Like TJ
is a better striker, a better wrestler, much more dynamic,
like YadA, YadA, YadA. Uh So, if they matched up,
I'd say morab by making him tired, because that's just it, like.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
It does it.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
He has a superpower that no one else has ever had.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
And you don't have to ration your offense. I mean,
it's undrue. It just frees you up.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I get goosebumps when we're watching greatness unfold, when we're
seeing what Islam's doing right now, he gets his pillow,
I'm getting. I'm getting that feelings usual, sometimes not all
the time. Sometimes tries to hurt people. Morob doesn't just
try to hurt somebody.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
When he when he finished showing a Mallley, I had
nothing to I look like an asshole because I was
saying this before that fight and he finished, was like,
hand up, if he's gonna My exact words were, if
he's gonna do this, if this is going to be
Habib esque, Oh, now that you're the champion, you're just
gonna bury people sick. And then he went right back
to this, and you know, to his credit, he did

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really hurt Corey Sandagan like he's he's adding tools, he's
developing but like.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
To soften that, Like, if you make these rants against
Michael Chandler, we all go, yeah, I kind of get it.
We're so lovable. He's got the inspirational story to go
with him, an issue worldly with his person the truth.
I just try to hurt people. This is theoretically the
hurt business. A tempter.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You are living in an era where ground and pound
is declined.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah, you've been talking about that too.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
It's just like, yeah, it doesn't he if he hurt
people more, I would like him more.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Still, respect of opponents, a fucking guy's running through is insane.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
I would never never say anything other than he's incredible,
because he is.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I mean, look what Marlin Reriich did to him in
that first round, and look at the fact that he didn't.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
The fact that he didn't die, it died, didn't capitulate.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Is that the right word here?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Surrender? Capitulation?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
And yeah, all right, hey, let's go to that comane event.
And in fact, the road to the UFC three twenty
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Alexandre Pantosia looks for the fifth defense of his flyweight
title that he picked up, by the way, at age

(46:53):
thirty three, and is now on an eight fight wind
streak overall. As he mentions, just recently turned twenty four
year old, twenty four, dude, I was Joshua Van, who,
by the way, let me fuck were you doing at
twenty four?

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Dude?

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Let me tell you what Joshua Van wasn't doing when
I was twenty four. He was born after nine to
eleven and made his pro debut after COVID the two
like major monumental. After COVID, I saw that this morning,
and it like it seriously. After me, I was like not.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Even like like counting as the end pair.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
So twenty twenty one, Like April of twenty twenty, he
has been a professional.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
For four years.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
It's insane.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
So she also fought like thirty times.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
He fights so much. So last September, fifteen months ago,
he's coming off of a third round knockout lost to
Charles Johnson, which kind of took the air out of
the balloon of this young kid from me and mar
this prospect. Whatever he's won five fights since then. He
fought Brandon roy Vall three weeks removed from knocking out
Bruno Silva, and then went a life and death fight

(47:56):
of the year All Action War, in which Van told
me last week he's like, yeah, I was hurt the
entire fight, like I just gutted it out and is
now getting another quick turnaround to go six fights in
fifteen months at just recently turned age twenty four. We
don't see this. Macy Barber got close to trying to
break a record, right. No one's gonna bak John Jones'
record this time around for being the youngest champion at

(48:17):
twenty three. But if this man does it at twenty
four and goes through Pantosia top four pound for pound
and on his way he secured the second greatest flyweight
resume of all time, I mean he's pretty much there.
He's on his way pointing upward at age thirty five
and just getting better the more money he puts into
these camps and acts like a champion. This is one
of the better stories we've seen in a while. You

(48:37):
want to tell about improbable? Is it only because Pantosia
cleaned out the division or would Van had found his
way up regardless.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
He would have found his way up regardless because, like
I mean, he'd beat Brandon revol who's the number one dude.
Like that's there's no debating this. Also, so we are clear.
October seventeenth, twenty twenty one is Josh Vann's pro debut.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Like literally, he has been.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
A professional for four years in and he was born
in October of two thousand and one. It is, which
is out wild landish, but yeah, Van was gonna get
here anyway, Like I was. I was writing about this
earlier this week because I didn't even realize how insane
Van's year has been. Like Josh, Van has absolutely an
opportunity to make a case for Fighter of the Year
if he went with that back up, that back up,

(49:22):
Oh my god, what is it? Oh god, I don't
my sister's gay, so I don't really know how that
one works.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
But I mean, those producers, man, they're just those producers.
Yeah this guy.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Wow, Oh my god, I didn't write that. I didn't
know he did.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Somebody's getting fired wow yeah. Wow.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
The thing about Van is like everyone knew Van was
a good prospect. Go back and watch his first Fight
of the Year when he was unranked by the way,
so we're clear he started the year unranked by anybody.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Who ranks fighters.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
It's like, oh, he's twenty three, he's gonna be great,
Like he's a super good prospect. Even by the summer,
Like when he fought Bruno Silvia, I think he was
ranked fourteen the US's rankings. Brusso was twelve, so he's like,
was twelve in June and then he short noticed Brandon Revall.
It's like, well, I guess actually he's the number one guy.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Unreal, box them up.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Yeah, it is an unreal run.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Like, if he beats Pantosia, he has a legitimate CASER
Fighter of the Year. I don't think he will win
it assuming Rob wins, because well we already talked about but.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
We have a strong case he'll have five. He will
be top five for shirts four with four wins.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Four wins, but including Brander Revaal and all Hundre.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Pintosia is pretty sick.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Like it's a great run, and like even if he loses,
he'll almost certainly be back. But yeah, man, like out
of nowhere, one of the most improbable title runs I've
seen in the modern history of this sport.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
But the bigger question is how much of a chance
does he have. The odds from draftings, the odds from.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
Draft thirty eight, Panto was a plus one ninety five Van.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
That's respect to Van.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
You're talking about the second best slab weight of all time,
the Cannibal, and this guy's not too far in terms
of the odds.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Tell me if I'm wrong. Pintotia is not showing any
signs of weakness here. He's not showing decline, he's not
showing any only getting better.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
If anything, He's correct totally. If anything, he's only getting
better at a bare mi'm creating distance between himself and
the pack. But Van Dude is just the I mean,
he just eat like you know, whatever metaphor you want
to use. A bat out of hell. Here he comes.
And I actually looked up a lot of the takedowns
that he gave up in various fights. He gave up
four to Race Aruja, by the way, but it most

(51:36):
is an amazing wrestler, Yeah, Daniel Cormier, And the commentary
was like, holy shit, this guy's a good wrestler. But
the real common denominator is nobody. And I mean, nobody
can hold this fucking guy down. He gets up butterfly guard,
he gets up using the fence, he gets up off underhooks,
from side control, you name it. Nobody can keep him.

(51:58):
Coodiden got two takedown him in one round and the
total control time was nine.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Seconds houses BJJ defense.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So listen, it doesn't matter. Well defense, we don't.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Say it doesn't matter if he's getting back up right.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
The thing is, it's like no one's really applying it.
I mean, this is to me why this fight is
so interesting is because, for example, Seruya would give up
position and let uh josh Van go behind him and
then arm throw him right, so like a Santa sak there.
But the reality is he would get him up against
the fence because you can run him to the fence

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and he wouldn't use his legs to trip him out. Well,
Pantoj is one of the very best guys in the
UFC at running you to the fence and then using
legs to trip, but not just a trip, but against
Kyosakora to trip and then take the fucking back.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
That's the thing, this is it.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
So to what extent can he deal with someone who
can get to the back. We're gonna find out.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Can Van lure Pantosia into being the same fighter he
was two years ago when he outlasted Brandon moreto want
to win the title in just an absolute dog fight
down the stretch. You remember the speech to the dad
like it was just this moment. But yet in those
two years, Pantosia went from like lovable brawler to complete,
well rounded technical fighter. Can Van lure that version of

(53:13):
Pantosia back? And is that the best method of victory
for the young fight? I mean, I think it'd really
help him. I don't know if he can. I love
this fight. This fight's awesome.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
The backtaking is the thing. Yes, it's hard to hold
Van down. If you take his back, you don't have
to hold him down, you just are on his back.
And Pantosia is probably the best fighter currently doing that,
Like that's a lot of his game now. I don't
know if Van can can get that like that would
help him. If he could just get a dog fight
like that, would I think that would be good for Van.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I don't know that he'd win it.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Pantosia is a crazy person, yeah, Like, honestly, to me
and Luke I'd love your take on this. I was
watching stuff I prep for this. Both men want to
come forward, so like their whole style, and I think
that ultimately Pants is going to win that.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
And so then Josh Van on the back foot.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Might be a very different animal than like Brandon Orval
giving him sort of a fight that he is comfortable
with because Pantosa is going to be in your face
and I don't know how Van will, but he's really good.
We can get the jab going, let the mits go
to work. I don't know how good he's going to be.
If Pants is just bullying him around on pants, this
is wild. I've been calling him pants for years because

(54:23):
why would you do pantosa when Pants is great?

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Great? I got to give him that right, or you
could just say his name pants.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
His name is pants.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
It's one, okay. So there's a couple of central questions
to this fight. One is what happens when he's on
the back and in his route to get there. Two
is exactly what you're talking about, which is they're both
come forward guys, and so that can't happen in totality,
is like that that's gonna give somewhere. I actually feel like,
on the one hand, that's going to open up Pantoja

(54:53):
to a certain kind of Van. Who Here's one thing
about Van. Van doesn't understand his own limits. I know
he lost it to Charles jo Onson, by the way,
a good fighter, yeah, but still he's so full of
young confidence. Everything has come so easily, yeah, that I
don't even think he I'm sure he takes Pantoja seriously,
but he almost thinks like there's an inevitable solution to

(55:13):
all of this, and I think he might walk into trouble. Conversely,
if Pantoja is not shot, but if we finally see
the shop warned ness show up, then the combination punching
is going to be a real big problem. But to
answer the question as best I can tell, I actually
feel like this could disrupt Pantoja's for pressure by getting
Pantoja to shoot, get him to sprawl and then go

(55:35):
to the back, or get him to defend down block
and then go to the back and then get him
to then run him to the fence, because there's no
way you can just let Josh Van walk you down.
It won't work. You will lose super.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Does not work. No, Pantojo, who I mentioned was thirty five.
This is his third fight in twelve months, but first
fight since June when he took out KKF. Is there
any sort of revisionist history to look back on, how, Yes,
Van outlasting or Revolt was very impressive and he might
be the fight of the year, and when he and
Yeah outlasting him in a war just went through hell with.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Him and in one sided war.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Brother, No, there's actually an There's an argument for Royall
until the very end.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Of the drop then one.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Certainly that fight was competitive. What I'm trying to say
here is my biggest argument in that fight, because I
thought Royvill would box him from the outside at a
high pace, but actually work in the defense. I'm a
little disappointed that Royvall went in just full on terminator mode.
Was there to be hit hands down walking forward? There
any fools gold in that because we did see Van
swim at that level and survive. But Pantosia is not

(56:36):
going to be as easy to hit. It's not going
to be that type of fight against him. You are
going to be raised to.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
That easy to hit in brief spots. He will be
that easy to hit in brief spots. He will, But dude,
he'll bite down on the mouthpiece too. That's true, you know,
it's just will do it for long.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
I left the front door opened. The entire fight.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Yeah, I mean one side a little strong, but I
kind of felt like Van was the guy who was
doing from beginning to end the much better combination punching,
and I think that carried the day ultimately.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Was out spamming him into his face.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
He was actually landing better, was throwing two times as
much and so he was landing well.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
For me, I rewatched that fight this morning, and for me,
there was just a lot of problems with Royval's game
plan that I kind of hated that that that Van
was able to take advantage of that. By the way,
Planto is not going to do and doesn't have the
same body type anyway to allow those kinds of things. Pants, right, pantalonis.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Slacks if he's feeling really nice. I've never had Alexandre.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
We could call him if he was a white guy.
I feel like, to be.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Fair, I've never had Alexandrea round my inkles during shrawat fights.
What you always say, I do? You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (57:41):
Christ, where's the crickets.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Connecting the dots? I need to do a shot after that. Yeah,
I think we should. I think you brush your hair higher,
should get into the Blanco brushed his hair. Look at this,
my hair is as high as our production struck.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
By lightning doing that ship.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I am okay, yeah, I am. As we pour this.
Give me three words to describe the UFC an ESPN
era that's coming to a close this month. Three words?
What the type of shit is that it happened?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Cool? Like I It's it's hard to know, like to
what extent I mean, I guess if we're doing ESPN,
it's like, oh, thank god we're off because that platform.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Is this man dealing with the Plus no more?

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I know.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah, I'm deeply happy to move to a new paramoun
Plus platform. It's just I've never had issues with it,
and I constantly have issues with the ESPN, so that's nice.
It's hard to know to what extent ESPN played in
the watering down of the sport that has happened. It
probably just would have happened anywhere, because that's sort of.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Well, they were the ones that want to content almost
every weekend to film.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Yeah, but like that, but that probably just would have
happened whoever they signed it brought. That's just sort of
the trend that is happening in Jim So.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
I interviewed Danna White in twenty eleven, and at that
twenty eleven he told me he wanted to have events
on two different events on the same day in the
in the world, right, so you could have one, I
would not be one. And yeah, yeah, they've been trying
to scale forever. To his point, they would have done
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, it would have done anyway.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
But like it is just they are the people who
were here when we got the influx of Contender series people,
you know, and like the apex happening, good point ever present.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
So it's like and the pandemic pushing everything to the
APEX thing.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
But they were hot coming out of the pandemic.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
No, no, of course, but I'm saying it also created some
long term relationship to the apex A fair point that
would not have happened but for the pandemic. So it
changed a lot of things. I mean, I'll say this, Look,
I mean, I don't know I've watched have you watched
games on Paramount Plus yet? NFL games? Maybe?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Yes, So I watched NFL games. I watched Champions League games.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I have not had a problem on watch for me
shoot the shot or are you going to take? Are
you still got enough in that glass? Let's go backside
of mind, get that back sound. This is paras Island
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
We didn't booze on parasign. I didn't have libo there.
I will. I'll say this. I think that if I've
noticed something from the Fox Sports deal to the ESPN deal,
it said it starts out real nicely, there's a clear
high water mark during that tenure, but by the end
of it, the deal has outlived its usefulness. And you'll recall,

(01:00:28):
for example, if if so, we didn't even talk about this,
they're moving the pay per views, well okay, number of
events to nine pm for a start time, which, by
the way, is the best, is the fucking best. But
you'll recall one of the things that was so important
about the ESPN deal coming from the Fox Sports deal
was all those fight nights started at ten pm and

(01:00:48):
would go to one am no matter how fast the
fight went, and it was so brutal to watch. And
they adjusted for many of those things. So each deal
is just getting a little bit better, and I think
more accommodating to the fans, were accommodating to our interests.
But I think it's outlived its usefulness. The high water
mark of the sport during the COVID era is just
not where we're at any more. And I think going

(01:01:11):
to a new player with a new with a new
media environment and a new sort of force culturally is
kind of what the UFC needs. How far can they
take it, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
But it's always nice to mix things up and like
it's for you know, not free, but there are no
pay per views, so that's just objectively better for the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
It's time you don't you don't want to stay doing
the same thing for us ever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Also, I remember after Francis and ghan who fought Kane Velasquez.
So when that fight ended, they pivoted immediately to Sports Center,
and Sports Center at that moment was hosted by ChIL
Son and Ariel Hajwane. And what which fight are you
talking about? Kane Velaskiz versus Francis and Ghano.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Oh, yes, of the ESPN, And they.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Pivoted right to Sports Center and it was those two
guys in studio, Like when was the last time they
did anything like that. When was the last time they
had a bunch of fighters or media personalities. I mean,
they'll have him on first take and whatnot. But it's
happening more and more infrequently. Like I said, I think
the relationship was useful and it was really important ups
and downs. Things we like, the things we didn't. But

(01:02:13):
I just feel like it's at the end of a
natural conclusion. This pivot, to me actually makes a lot
of sense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
And it officially comes to an end a week after
UFC three twenty three with the Fight Night card with
Brandon roy Fall and Menil cop to close out our
co main event preview. Here it is prediction time. We
know Joshua van can can do this, but like Steve,
will he do it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Luke Thomas, Domina Cans Mexice can get it. Anyone can
get it. I'm gonna go josh Van. Well, I'm gonna
go josh If you're picking with your heart again, I
have been sleeping. I have been wrong about Pantoia any
number of times, so please take that into account.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Yeah, like when I said Till would get finished by
Woodley and you're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Like, nah, No, we weren't working together at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Mmab all right, look up the art.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
You have like two right calls that you serve for
ten years, while the other eight thousand you got wrong
somehow you don't even acknowledge. Let's look, the reality is
Pantoja is incredible and Van is vulnerable. I admit it,
but I just kind of feel like he's going to
wiggle his way free to positions of attack and it's

(01:03:23):
going to be enough to win three rounds on a
judge of scorecards.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
There you go, that's fair, but I don't think it happens.
I'm going to go on the flip side and go
Pantosia getting a decision in which Van shows some good
stuff for this because Van has moxie. Van has a
has has a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Hard He's got a fighter spirit for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Right for a guy that was knocked out a year ago,
he doesn't act like it ever. Load him down, boxy
moxy he's got. He fights just like Jared Vander.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
He doesn't fight recklessly, but he fights like a fucking
twenty four year old kid who doesn't understand risk. And
it's a both a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I think Pantosia can still four to one here
how do you see it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:01):
I'm going pants by decision like I'm sorry, not decision
submission the quervo.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I think he's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Tap him from from the back, Yeah, from the back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I we haven't. We we mentioned it earlier, we didn't.
This is the fan's fifth fight in twelve months.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
That's at flyweight like that is OK.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
But he's thirty three, He's not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
I'm not massively confident in this prediction. I'm much less
confident than the main Like five fights is a lot.
Even the Brander or Revol fight, like as great as it was,
there are some mixed inuing circumstances. It was short notice,
like Reravol was not preparing for that sort of matchup.
It's hard to get out like he just lost to
Charles Johnson like a year ago, because that's how often

(01:04:47):
he's fighting. But like Charles Johnson, isn't remotely as good
as all under Pintosia. And I think the Pantosia is
going to have a lot more success in backing Van up,
which I think will be key and I do. I
think once he gets to the back, Pants at the
minimum is going to win rounds by just taking it
and holding it. But I kind of like his Like

(01:05:08):
every time I've seen all one hundred pantosia, he has
gotten so much better. And I was skeptical at first,
and he is just like, Nope, can't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
I cannot deny him anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:05:18):
Maybe Age catches up to him, that'll be sad, because
he's an awesome champion.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
But like, I'm gonna stick with him.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
I'm gonna ride him like you with Morob. I'm just
I'm riding Pants until forever.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I mean, these two guys have earned that reputation. They've
both earned it so fair enough.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Plus, like I really want to see Pants versus Kog.
That would be that make me really really happy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Yeah, that'd be a good fight.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
That made me really happy. That would be That would
be some good time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Bushido. You know that we didn't ask this before we
move on very quickly. If Rob finishes, Young finishes, is
there going to be pressure on him to go to
forty five?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Not until he beat tu Mar a second time?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
That's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
I mean, I'm not wrong, right, I'm not wrong on that,
especially since.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Will start the because there really hasn't been that it
will start of like hey, especially because like, I personally
think Volk's going to retire after the Lopez fight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
That's not inside information.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Yeah, like, I think he's his coaches. His coach is
doing the thing. He was like, I don't know if
he's gonna quit, but if he did just leave featherweight
and do fun fights, that'd be cool, which actually totally
agree with, Like Bale and featherweight and just go fight
Charles Olvera, that'd be awesome. But like once Vult, I
think Marab versus Vulk would have some appeal. But if
featherweight just gets open, if Folk does retire or leave,

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the call will be there because fans in the sport
don't care about that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Let's go to the fourth member here, call me an event.
Who wins pants? Sub round three? Round three?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Speaking of pants, have you ever asked a chick to
walk you to your trug or what?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
We're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I mean, I can grasp what that means, but I
know he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
He's doing what we call skits and bits on the show.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
Yeah, yeah, yes, long ago, you said, Jared Vanderbeek before
it's been bothering me, James vander.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
James Vanderbeek excuse me, cheshre Connecticut. Yes, he was the
quarterback in what's that movie? Varsity Blues one?

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
And he was Dawson, Yeah, James.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Friday night Lights.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
Friday night Lights is both an incredible TV show and
a film based on a true story.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
So who was in that fucking film?

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Well, Billy Bob Thornton was like the lead as the
coach in the film.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Who was like the teen heart Robb or whatever the
fucker I don't even remember, yo.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Friday night Lights is probably a better movie than Varsity Blues,
But Varsity Blues is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I don't want yo.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Hands of God, I've never seen either.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Oh stramas about teenagers when guys like us are like,
bring them on, right.

Speaker 4 (01:07:46):
We were talking about one battle after another, Varsity kids.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Right there, Like Varsity Blues is right there. You should watch.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
I'd rather get shot in the face with liquid e bowls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
But when the chick has the cream, Wow, that was
a former watch she got three of the y Yeah
she did. So this is old. Close off this topic,
all right, and keep it going. Hey, Let's stay in
the flyweight division though, and keep on moving down that card.
Former champion the thirty one year old Brandon Moreno shook

(01:08:19):
off a two fight losing skit against elite opponents by
split decision in both fights to win to in a row.
Now he's got a quasi number one contender about here
against Tatsuro Tyra, who is uh what's his catchphrase?

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I am happy, I'm so happy, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yes, that one. That guy's great catchphrase.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Er he's just delightfully Japanary.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Japanese twenty five years old. We saw him lose a
split decision of Brandon roy Fall two fights ago. That
was a quasi fight of the year. Comes back to
submit parking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Maybe we have different characterizations of how some of these
fights go. Fight of the year, Yes, but he got
a little bit big brother in that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Oh, he absolutely lost that fight. The fact there was
a split decision, That's.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
What I'm saying. Yeah, but you're like saying it was
like you think it was competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
It was a split decision.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
There were I understand, dude, you can get split decisions
and it can still be relatively one sided competitive.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
But it was and wasn't. The rounds were not competitive
either way. Ty were like clearly won two rounds because
he just had the back like a long period of time,
but he lost the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Out of it. And like you, I listened to the
volume on so I can hear all of Bisping. All right,
so much Bisping right now on UFC TV.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
My view on that fight is it's close, but there
was a little bit of big brothering that happened in
one direction and not the other.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
You know, Bisping's favorite nineties ban is second I blind. Okay, alright,
sorry we lost that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Blur works for that joke and it is better.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Yes, that's so true. Yeah, I don't know you did
that works better every levels so much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
It's not wrong, right there, Brandon moreno tatsuro Tyra. Will
the winner of this get a title shot or will
coach have to? I mean, because look, if Van wins it,
you reset the division. It's going to give people that
don't have a shot at getting Pantosia again a chance
to get back in there. But if Pantosia wins, is
this a number one contenders fight or does cor Gucci

(01:10:26):
have to win another one?

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Let me ask you a question, because I hadn't considered
this at all. If Luke is right and Van wins,
does Pants get an immediate rematch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
He has to. He has to, even if.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
It's just not competitive.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Okay, short, I think even if I think Van's got
a good shot of winning, I don't think he's going
to go in there just like I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Like I mean, if that happens, a no to your answer.
But like if pants wins, they're not going to run
back Moreno. So maybe if Tyre wins, I think Kyogi
is just a very clear and obvious a Pants twins.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
If not, things get open.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
And like I mean, I'd watch any of the flyweights
fucking fight, man, Like I'd watch Brandon Moreno and one
entrepreneurs a fight thirty times that Roy Vall.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
I'll get trilogies out of both of those rivalries too.
But what is going to happen in this fight? Is
this going to be Moreno using his boxing skills to
control the chaos of Tyra coming out him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Tyra's getting better over time. We don't want to sleep
on that, but it just seems like this is a
little bit striker versus grappler again. Moreno can grapple and
Tyra's getting better with his striking. But let's be serious,
like one, if Tyra if you if I told you
that Tyra won't get any takedowns, who would you pick?
It's like Moreno easy, right, and so that kind of
tells you where the emphasis lies. So for that reason,

(01:11:45):
I think this is about Moreno down blocking, making sure
he doesn't get to the back and if he does,
he gets escape quickly. And if he does that, dude,
Moreno has fought and beat much better guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
True, Tyra though seven and one in the UFC, is
he in title contention with a win here? Because Morino
might cut to the front, I don't know what do
they do? Do they go do Corgucci next? Because he's
thirty five?

Speaker 4 (01:12:05):
They're doing cor Gucci if he wins, like that that
both sides want it, Honestly, I want it. It would just
be cool. It's really fun that their teammates who want
to fight. Dana has historically hated the teammates don't fight,
so like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Yeah, right, but they've kind of served it up here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Fan wins and you don't do the rematch of Moreno
wins and Morino's one hundred percent getting If Morine wins,
Van wins and they don't do the rematch.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Uh, based on your breakdown Luke, I'm gonna I just
want to Hey, Long Island, Luke, let's go to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Can we get the odds on this one?

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Yes from our friends, because I think you're going to
be surprised at the odds here, Luke, because I certainly was.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
I think he'll be plus one twenty Moreno minus one
forty two.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Tyro Moreno is the UNDERDOGO. Okay, walk me through that logic,
Long Island, Luke, tell me what the odds makers are seeing.
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
I don't fucking know the logic because I saw the
line as well. And when oh, I'll take Brandon Moreno
as a dog gladly, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Are they saying he's damaged? Goods you think? I asked?
I don't know, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Like Peaches delight to take the the plus money there.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
You're just thinking Tyra is going to get him down,
and if he does, sure, maybe he can.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Control him win two rounds. But like, I don't know, dude,
I think he probably can get him down. I don't
know that's going to be enough. I mean, yeah, better fighters.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
Than Tyra have gotten him down and not been able
to the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
Went fucking three fights with Figaredo even four. What am
I saying? Yeah, thank you for the He's pants. So
what I'm trying to make is, Dude, he's fought guys
who can do similar kinds of things, and actually Devison
Figuredo much more heavy handed than Tyra. So I don't

(01:13:42):
know that one's a little baffling to me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah, I really like Moreno's boxing in this one. I
don't think he needs the ground game.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I think it's just going to be, well, he needs defense.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
He needs to defend the ground game for sure. But
like I think you're going to see, I mean, he's
they'd love the plug him right back into another time shot,
you know that, so they should.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Well, they given Diego Lopez the Brazilian Mexican kind of thing,
and they're got a UFC noteche.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I mean, are you shaking chalk here? What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, I'm taking Brandon Moreno money line.

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
Well that's not chalk, That's what I'm taking. I think
there's a case that Brandon Marino won the third fight
with Pantosia, like a pretty decent case. He just might
be like he's right there with Pantosia. I don't understand
why he's the underdog, which probably means Ty's gonna run
over him and I'm gonna look like an idiot. But
I can't. I can't see it. This feels like he.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Runs over excuse me, because if he shot one, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Well, the two fight win streak. The last two fights
for Marain are going back to last November, are decisions
over Albasi and Steve Ersek beat Roy Vall. I know
he lost that decision he Beaty that was a split decision.
Clearly won that fight, I don't know. And the title loss,
to your point, was a split decision lost to Pantosia.
So Moreno has been at this for a long a little.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Thing going which is they get these guys get losses
and they get out of it and they put wins together,
but it's decision after decision. Now Johan has I think
three of them, this is only two in the case
of Moreno, but they come back and they're able to
get wins and look good. But there's a certain kind
of vitality to their game that's missing, and I feel
like that's the case of Marino. Nevertheless, I still agree
I would I think against Tyra, I'm a little surprised

(01:15:20):
at the odds. But I do sort of recognize that
these guys get losses and they come back and they're
very good versions of themselves, but not exactly the same
barn burner they may have once been.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Hot. Take Long Island. Look, Vitalogy is only the fifth best.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Pearl, jam I said, Vitality pretty hot, pretty hot. Take
what's the best ten versus ten? Ten verses or ten?

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
I think people will say ten, but I think ten
are yield, but yield yields like four. I'm making a
run on yield.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
I have a hot take. That dark matter is up there, man,
get out. I mean that was doing in high school.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
It's about it, Honestly, that's much more speed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
All right? That was great?

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Are you guys going with Marino here? And the underdogar?
The thing is I love Tyra. I want that to
be clear. I've loved Tyra for a long time. Is
really really good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:07):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
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responsibly BC. You nowhere else. Quervo is where O in
your belly? Yeah, let's go. Luke Thomas, will you join
us in this? He's re upped, he reloveded, Okay, he is.
He is a real man. You know. We've had our
back and forth over the years, but it's more brotherly
love ultimately, even though he's a decrepit human.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
When you bring me on, I understand that my job
is to just get you drunk. Just Hey, let's do
as many of these as I can make you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Take pants off, baby, right, It's off, baby, yeah, although
pants will be back on on Saturdays.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Comina fan, All right, do you know I don't know,
is it. Have you heard the thing where if you
don't like toast everyone at the table, you'll have bad
sex for seven years. Have you heard that? No?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
No, I've heard the thing that if you don't join
me in the in the chest press after doing the shot,
it really won't work through your body.

Speaker 4 (01:17:35):
Okay, all right, I've never done and now I'll chest
press with you. Let's let's press some chest lets. I've
pressed a few chress back back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
In the day.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
I want to make a joke right now, but we
have sponsors and we'll get fired if I make you.
My favorite thing to do is I take my daughter
to gymnastics and there's a Mexican restaurant next door, and uh,
after it's over, we all get dinner and I'll have
a few Margarita's kind of point where I'm bus and
then I ride my e bike home. It's my favorite
thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Do you think I look more like the e bike
or the Norwegian metal fans? Rowing on the your very
crew right now? How long do we do this PC
until it feels great?

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I mean it always feels great.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
It's do you know about the metal fans? Have I
told you about this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I mean Norwegian metal fans every store I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
So I took. I went to a concert and the
the opening band, no, the headlining the opening band.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
I like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
The headlining band I did not like, but I didn't care.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I was just Fetus Death.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
No, it was a Mono Marth. Okay, they're like a Viking.
They called Viking metal. Okay, I didn't. I didn't know
because I don't go to Viking metal shows. It's not
my ship. I get there and I'm at the Everyone
who's ever been there was at the Fillmore and Silver
Spring and the film Moore has this kind of like
ring at the top where you can kind of look
down on the floor. And I was up there because
I'm old. I'm not trying to fist fight anyone. And I'm,

(01:18:53):
you know, going to my wife like why are you
missing teeth on a Thursday? Dog? When that dog? When
that plays, these losers sit down in the middle of
the dance floor or whatever the fun you want to
call it the floor and they and they pretend like
they're rowing boat and I was like, where is where

(01:19:16):
is a mass shooter? That's an incredible I saw. I
was like, I was like I was like, I don't
they I thought I didn't. I didn't know what was happening.
I was like, are they Are they pretending to row
a motherfucking boat? And then I was like, you deserve
to be bullied. You deserve the life that you lead,
you know what I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Mean, that's a great gimmick. Can we bully be c
for burping directly? I'm sorry, h Jed. We're a few
sheets into the wind here. How what's new in your
personal life as we transition through this card? As through
your life?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Are you going to get married?

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
I don't know if I meet the right woman. And
I wanted to clearly say woman because I've been in
your comment section and that was critical to delineate that. Jed. Yeah,
thank you very much. Long Alan Jed house life. You
know it's good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
I mean, I get to watch I'm hanging out with
you bozos.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I had several shots of quervo at this point. He
went out drinking with not Jose Quevo, but Jose Young
Jose Young's where we had some cuervo.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
So this is really kicking me back up to a
happy spot and we get to talk about I really
like this car.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
I mean, we've about in alphabet city.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Where'd you go here? Wherever?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
I don't know, New York, but because they lived pretty
close to here actually, so he took me around to a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Couple of bars.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
We New York's expensive. Remember the first time I figured
that out last night? Yeah, dude, this is true. This
is night. This is two thousand, two thousand and one. No,
not even two two thousand. A buddy mine went to
Columbia University, which is on the north side of town,
and I visited him from william and Mary. Okay, at
the time, a picture at the local green leaf in Williamsburg,
Virginia was six dollars. Is just like your two thousand whatever.

(01:20:52):
I went to New York City it was fucking twenty dollars,
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Was like, holy shit, Josh Van not born during that story.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Yeah, not even more.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't believe your thoughts on the relationship
between jet fuel and steel beams.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
I've heard people say that it can't melt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Steel be Okay, I haven't done my own research. Heay,
back to the car.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
He's like some expert in civil engineering.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Let's go to the three twenty three main card and
we'll go to the Vanawey division. Thirty eight year old.
Thirty seven year old excuse me, former champion Henry Sejudo
is back riding a losing streak. In this entire comeback
from his three years off has been a losing skale,
though I do think he looked good and that comeback
title loss by split decision to al Joe. It's been
a little more downhill since then, losing a decision to

(01:21:41):
Morob and then you had the ipoke gate with song
Ya Dong in which he was getting pieced up. Anyway, well,
how about this for great matchmaking? I do give the
UFC a lot of credit. Peyton Talbot, the super prospect
at twenty seven years old, already has bounced back from
that you know, heat check lost Tyoni Barcelos, who is
on a streak of his own. Fellas, when you hear
Sahudo Talbot, your first emotion is what.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
I feel. Hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Great fight, like weird, but a great fight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Hilarious in a good way, in a good way, not
a bad way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Right, it's never would have thought of it. I'm interested.
You got me, you rope me in so like yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
It's not a pairing. I would have assumed and it
seems like do or die for Tahudo. I mean this
seems I mean, is.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
It officially I mean he's he's been saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Yeah, But I think if he wins, he's going to try.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
And I mean it's he's officially losing. Look if he
loses its four losses and row, he's gonna go. He's
thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
But I'm saying if he goes as obvious, I'm saying,
if he wins, I don't buy that this is his
last one. I don't buy that he calls it today.
I think he's gonna try the Kamaru be like I
got one win.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
He's like, let me get volk for that featherweight For.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Kamar, I was the old pound for pound guy versus
the current But I mean, you mean you're not ranked.
How was this a selling point.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
World tweet for him? Well, the only fight you can
make it suit over.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Me is if Henry goes in there and just jobs him,
then I think that he actually sticks around for potentially
some lucrative faides. But in the event that it's like
lackluster or certainly if he loses, it's definitely the set
the line here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Can we get line gods.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
From wide plus two thirty Sehuto minus two to eighty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Yeah, big, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Surprise against Barcelos, Talbot did yes, but then rebounded big
against the what was the Brazilian kid's name? I made
it Lima, excuse me? Lima rebounded nicely against Lima, looked
really good, vastly improved. Is it enough against Sehudo? Probably
probably is the answer, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
I mean, the question is is Sahuto full wash? Because
he looked really bad against Song, like before if.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Song his physical experience and he looked.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Great speed wise, he looked a step behind the whole fight,
the whole like he got Frankly, he got bailed out
by the weirdness at the end. He was getting thumped.
He looked pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
It was thirty two the score as standing pro boner
offer to all female.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
That's honestly, one of your betters shout out to you.
That's actually I'm on the show enough. I'm surprised it
took us that long. Well done. That almost makes up
for you fucking up the blur. Obviously, they can't all
be back shoot or shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
It's like a UFC calendar they ain't all going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Like I don't know, man, uh soon you can still
take him down. He might just win because Talbot is
really bad at that. Like he showed some improvement, but
Felipe Lima's not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Maybe the answer to this question will answer who wins
this fight? Who is Peyton Talbot right now? Like where
is he really headed?

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Peyton Talbot has shown some real ability, but a lot
of the hype behind him is because he is an
irreverent figure inside of m m A. There was a
big New York Times feature on him about how he's
got this relation where of friendship what everyoneant to call
it with Frank Ocean. He doesn't conform to traditional standards
of masculinity and a sport that's like hyper masculine in

(01:25:08):
that way, and that has certainly set him apart and
elevated his figure ten and one as a pro. He
just looked really bad in the Barcelo's fight. And the
other part two is like, so Hudo is load to
the ground, good at getting body locks and then trips
and Talbot stands real tall, you know, so this is
gonna be one of those ones. Is an interesting thing,
but it's like Talbot is one of these personalities where
if if he's able to break out, I think can

(01:25:32):
make a real big splash culturally because of how distinct
he is as a phenomenon. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
I mean that you nailed it. Like he is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
He's such a unique person that, like I think most
MMA fans probably like won't gravitate towards him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
But he could bring in very big outside crowd, like
a very.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
Different section of people because he is pseudo famous and
connected to famous people, and Frank.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Coachin legacy media loves him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Yeah, what did the Barcelos loss? What was the biggest
worry you took from? What did that he lost?

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
Honey Barcelos, who's like a good fighter, but not a
great fighter. He's not a nice little run County is
And Howney is really cool. He talked to him like
he is the definition of like a plus.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Journeyman, a guy who's been around.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
But that just means he knows how to fist fight
people like he he knows how to fight.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
He has a way of gassing out young prospects.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Yes, and so like he's he's the guy who never
fight for a belt. But it's just like, yeah, like
he's Forry Moswol was that way. He just kind of
rolled high and got super famous at the end, like
County's in that sort of Countach.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Jeremy Stevens exactly and so hardest hitting one I know
who like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
I don't knock him for that, but that is it
is a setback loss, and the question is always how
do you respond to your first adversity when you're a
high level prospect, which.

Speaker 5 (01:26:54):
Is what he is.

Speaker 4 (01:26:55):
He looked really good against Peli william and who I like.
I think he's very good, like a towted guy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
I love the matchup. I never would have.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
Thought of this fight because like frankly, kind of why
would tuhudo take this one? It's really good, like it
if he beats a hudo, you can strap the rockets
to him, like fire this guy up the rankings because
he's to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Your point, he's so you started this conversation about judging
this UC through twenty four card in the in the
paramount era, about like don't you want the UC to
build stars? They're laying it out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah, they really are. Really it's a really good point. Now,
look are you riding in any direction on here? Because
I think all of us knee jerk would have said
great matchmaking. But I still like Suhudo. The odds makers
don't where do you slide in there?

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
That just makes me like Suhudo more.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
You're giving me him a plus money, especially this wide
plus two hundred or higher is crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
I could see like a one seventy five. It's guys,
because you're eating back, why don't you eat more during
a live broadcast?

Speaker 6 (01:27:49):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
Food? I couldn't tell.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
You could tell sorry, we got to get his horn
of dad in here one time? Right? That would be
probably one of our more highly crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:58):
Do you use condoms? Obviously not? Oh fuck you, I
don't get the fucking ring.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
I was actually throwing out my trash for the food.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
You deserve the horns you did? Fuck her?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Who wins?

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
See that Not everybody's going quiet and bring got a
lot to say until it's time to make the pick.

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
It's a total fifty to fifty for me because like
it's hard to be like in my head, I guess
I'll pick Talbot.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Like it's like I don't know Henry needs two takedowns, which.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
In my back and should answer the I's gonna flip it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Would you have consummated the the late lead singer of
the Cranberries. Can you know that that person jumps out
in my.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Do I have here?

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
What the fuck is this? Here we go?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
You have several cords?

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Auro flip it? I have a euro?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
No one, no one does better analysis than coin flipping.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
I'll have a euro.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
You a euro because he because he went to Barcelona, No, Madrid.
Which city did you go with your wife? And it
changed your life? Life?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
And then you became a before I ever met my wife.
You fucking it is?

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Oh, it was Barcelona, right, Barcelona, Barcelona, Madrid? It was Madrid.
Barcelona rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
He talks so much about it. And then he would
go and be like, yoh.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Like a foreigner arriving on their first US trip in
New York going to a Yankees game and being like,
I'm Yankees man.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Yeah, brother, I've been all over the world. You've barely
left the States.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Look, Barcelona rocks.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
So I got Colombian money here ready, I got twenty thousands.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
You're gonna flip a piece.

Speaker 3 (01:29:32):
Twenty thousand pos and then I've got I've got a
motherfucking euro. How about that? How about that. All right,
we're gonna flip it. So here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
If it's look, do you stand by Colombian coffee?

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Okay, so the quality is high? Yes, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
I don't think so sick we are fucking around. He goes, okay,
so the quality is high.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
The quality of Colombian coffee is high. The manufacturing quality
is high. However, the style of beans and the way
they cook they prepare it my preferred style. Off. Do
you think to floral?

Speaker 4 (01:30:04):
Do you think a World Cup own goal should be
payable by death?

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
No, that's far too much.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
All right, if the one shows up, I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Pick this is great and alics. This puts the anal
in analysis. Are you doing the flip or not?

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
The one tell one's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
I'm dude, I want to feel like there's a happy
ending here for Shudo, that he can retire on this.

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
But Talbot, now I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
But uh, I will say, so who doo? He's let
me down on this comeback like I think he had
it in the Sterling fight. I just think he started
too late in that specific fight. And I give him
a lot of credit on three years off, even though
we in hindsight and even his coach Eric Albara agrees
that like it was, it was a bad move for
his legacy and what he was building maybe he needed
for his personal life. I don't hate the loss to Morob,

(01:30:51):
even though I felt like he ran out of options there.
He just wasn't on Morob's left. The loss aged really well,
but that it did, but that you don't fight and
even short of the ipokes, just it showed me that
he's he's not on this level anymore, that he had
to really go to extreme stephen land shots and really
get deep in his bag of creativity. I think he

(01:31:11):
gets out worked and he loses the decision here at all,
but I think that's what it is, and then he
retires and he is I doubted him throughout most of
his run. I've I've come like a fine wine to
age with accepting and understanding how great he actually was.
He's one of the best fighters of all time, Henry Souto.
He doesn't have the resume to say that, but I

(01:31:31):
think he was opportunistic in his window. I think he
is a had some of the best fight iq I've
ever seen. I think he really evolved from the early
version of him with that Fight of the Year with
Joseph Benavitez to become the title.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Winner, to DJ the first time, he became a different guy.
There's no question.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
I mean, he he's great, but this is the end
of it, this is where it ends, and he'll be competitive.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
But twenty seven, I mean, dude, a twenty seven year
old shouldn't lose to a thirty eight year right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
The stats are pretty mecca.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
They should not happen. So for that reason, and because
that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
You picked Van. But that's also true of coming event.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Right, Oh right, well, yeah, the stats around your side.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
If there's a ten year age gap, it's right, what
has been the biggest age gap and a female male
relationship that you've upheld?

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Dude, I'm not one of these losers who does that
kind of thing. Probably have most a year or two.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Okay, that's fair, that's fair, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Good for you. No, sorry, your mom, I forgot about
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow. I have a few
follow ups, but I can't for a few reasons. All right, Hey,
let's go to the main car.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Forty was perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Wow wow forty Hey look at me? Yeah, old former
light heavyweight champion and big fan of uh suicide ropes
from the forest. Yon Vlahovich will come back here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Jesus, what the lock? Did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
That's that's where he gets his power from.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
He's like a big fan. Hey, you guys, keep killing
yoursel out there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
No, no, he grabbed that run suicide for I'm not
doing a logan Paul Japan. But no, no, you're telling Yeah, yeah,
I want to tell you about his opponent though, Bogden Guskov,
who is riding a four fight win streak, all by
stoppage only UFC loss the submission to Volcanos Demir, who
did have time for that bout at twenty at thirty

(01:33:31):
three years old, this Uzbek is about to bang with Blajowitz. Guys,
no one's talking about this fight. But it kind of
rocks balls, does it not? Yes? No, I love this fire.
I love put up, put it up, whatever it is,
fucking I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
I didn't put anything up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
I don't know what he talking about this. Yeah, I
love no Hoo Hank. I think he rocks. Uh, he's
super fun. Do you know who this Nojo Hank is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
This is the first time I've heard that term.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
Boginov looks like a character NoHo Hank from a Don't
Worry About.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
It from HBO Max Great Show is okay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
He's a killer for hire.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Don't worry about It is the Bill hater guy thing.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Yeah, that that show Bogga and Guskov rocks.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Yanblhovich is really good at making forty two. Yeah, but
he's really good at making these people.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
He just finished, he did and love is really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
But like he's real up and down, real up and down,
and he's currently on a bad streak where it's like, oh,
he's actually probably just over, Like he's kind of just done.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Yanbohovich is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
The best fighter in the world that making you look shitty,
Like anybody who fights him.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Has been outweighed by all girl friends.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
All of them, certainly some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Yeah, well who cares. Uh, that's not even an insult.
Usually you're insulting me. That's fine. Those producers are vicious.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Yan Belhovich is so good at making you look like
ship even if you beat him, like Carlos Olberg beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
And looked terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
He was so hard to look good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Nobody looks good against him. And I don't know if
Bogden's gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
I hope he does, because he's new and interesting and
John's forty two.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
But I'm waiting for the heavyweight version of Yanblohovich to come.
I'm waiting for actually he moved. Honestly, I never thought
of that. That would be really funny. Imagine if him, Yeerie,
who else could move up?

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
The big Austrian kid Alex Pereira could move no no, no,
no rackets.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Imagine if Jack Hill just gave up training and got
a big gut just went. Could you imagine a big
gut heavyweight Jamal Hill just throwing bombs in there.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
I don't know that it would work well, but sure,
why not like that? They should close down heavyweight and
merge it with two of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Heavyweight's just too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Who's fighting Derek Lewis coming up?

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Waldo?

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Waldo w on that first card like he's forty something
too long Island.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Look what are the odds in this Blackkovich fight?

Speaker 6 (01:35:55):
So Yan's the favorite minus one thirty five plus one fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
This is a step for Guskov. But does Yon still
have it? He is coming off what a layoff? My
correct we thought Alberg earlier this year this year? All right,
so it's not that bad, but that is winless.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
It feels like he had a lot of like momentum
two and one in his last three. Yeah, I feel
like he had a lot of momentum and that momentum
is kind of petered out.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
So it was a split draw on a title fights
on GOLIAV. It was a split problem lost in Prairi's
Tool five debut, and then it was the decision lost
to Olberg. So it's not being dominated. These are close
fights against superst him nobody. That's again, you got a
ride Lahovich here, you got to.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Yeah, I'm not super sold on GUSKV if that's what
you mean.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
Do you remember that footprint that Lahovich put in the
side of Dominic Reys.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Yes, reasonably, Belhovich is probably going to win this fight,
but I'm going to choose to believe in Bogden Guskov
because light heavyweight is in desperate need of like interesting
young ish people. So I hope Bogden kills him.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
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prelim in the lightweight division. Grant Dawson welcoming Manuel Torres Luke.
That makes your loins do what?

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Not much?

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
I like this fight.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
It's fun. I mean it should do something. There was
a time we believed in Grand Dawson and then Bobby
Green sent him to help.

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
But he's won three in a row. Luke. He's very good.
He has a very uh smothering grappling style. It's useful
as a way to both win and test other prospects.
But you're asking to have a high degree of like
interest in it'd be overstating it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Manny Torres four and one in the UFC did rebound
from the TKO loss to Baha mon Days in which
the the rhythm take it over.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
That's by the most Yes, bounce back to stop Drew Dober.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Are you feeling the rise of Manuel Torres in this fight?

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Maybe he's really I mean, Grant Dawson is a he's
a one outcome fighter, Like he gets takedown so he loses.
Manual tor Has has been pretty good at defending takedowns historically,
not from the level of Grant Dawson, but I mean
this is the most classic in may fight of like, well,
if Grant Dawson gets take downs, he wins, and Manuel
Torres is pretty fun.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
So I like this fight.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
You shouldn't like feel a lot, but there should be
a tingle. You should have something going in the loins
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Lucas, Lucas dead down there, believe me, it's just this
no movement. There's nothing happening, Luke. Like that time Showgirls
came out of VHS. What about this? There will be
a finish. In the next fight, Lightweight Terrence McKinney versus
Chris Duncan. You gotta feel something, tell.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Me Chris Duncan actually a pretty good fighter out of
Scotland obviously, right. And then then Terrence McKinny, the evil
canevel of MMA, which I says thirty one by the way,
it was a compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
That's an incredibly good coming.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
So he's I mean, it's gonna be It's gonna be
one way. How do you handle the cannon explosion? That's
really the only that one is awesome. It's just a
question of like, what does Chris dunkin have to handle
that kind of pressure? Immediate like onset of pressure. I
guess we'll find out he's he's obviously more well rounded.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
But in the last two years, Terrence McKinney is four
and one with four stoppage wins. Of course when he loses,
he gets stopped early. It's always feast or famine. The
betters are feasting the entertainment. Get up, Babe East. I
had said this after his last fight. Is it time
for Terrence McKinney to turn back the craziness on that
dial and become a contending fighter.

Speaker 4 (01:41:05):
That would be the worst idea, Like that might be
the worst take you've ever had. Wow, Look he's never
gonna fight for a belt and that's okay, Like you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
Not every fighter has to be a champion.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
It's okay just to be beloved because you deliver a perform,
an expectation, a performance that people can gravitate to. Harris
McKinny is perfect because he's like Justin Gaitchie ended up
winning belts and championships, but like if he didn't, he
would still fight the same way. Don't change your Terrence
McKinny is let him get or get got baby, like

(01:41:37):
this is. I don't need you to be great, just
be you, and it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
This man, this man Chris Duncan five and one in
the UFC. He was stopped on the Dana Wo Contender
Series by knockout against Slava Clause. Is he dead to
you for life?

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
Because no, because he rebounded against Rombezsky and that was
a big deal for me.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Okay, is only lost by the way against Manuel Torres,
the man that you have no faith in.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
I did have no faith in. I just didn't say
I was especially excited about it. But Chris duncan to
Be has shown me some skills. He showed me some
resiliency certainly, So I like this contest. It's just you know,
it's gonna be chaos for as long as it lasts.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Right, that's a fair point. That's a fair point. Let
me tell you about somebody who's coming off of a
twenty one month layoff here, somebody that we consider a
true contender at one hundred and twenty five pounds or
do we. I'm talking about Macy Barber against Corinne Silva
that long. This is tough matchmaking. But yes, it's been
that long since Macy.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
She was she has been back previously. But remember she
got like, you know, uh to the finish line.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
I just did not realize it was So she beat
Caitlyn Sermonara Chukgian back in March of twenty four. For
the record, it's a six fight wind streak for Macy.
There's a reason why we consider her as sort of
a contender.

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
And lady Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
Stopped Amanda Hebas split decision wins over Andrea Liam, Miranda
Maverick Be Jessica Iya Montana de la Rosa, then beat
Chuck Jian, Sermonara who's you know, a gatekeeper in a sense,
let me know who she is. But can she be
the fighter re old despite the multiple medical setbacks that
have kept her out. I'm gonna guess yes, because she's
still relatively young.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
But like it's a question, it is. I don't know
if she was supposed to fight Air Blinchfield. It all
fell apart. I don't know the extent to her medical issues,
but they seem not insignificant. So this feels like the
right kind of fight to bring her back into the fold.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Let her get her legs under her.

Speaker 4 (01:43:29):
I don't know what popened, like, like, what's her ceiling?

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Really? She obviously that she was going to be the
next John Jones. That's unlikely.

Speaker 4 (01:43:38):
She's talented enough, she's young enough, there's a lack of
star power in this white class she could bring that.
This is a really good fight for her to sort
of re establish herself. So I'm interested. I genuinely did
not realize it was that long since she fought.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
And by the way, Barbara's only two UFC losses the
wheels fell off against Roxane Matafari. When she thought she
was angling toward a title, she got guessed out she
was her. There's a few things. Then she lost the
decision to Leuxe Grosso, which I thought she won. I
thought she had an argument there. She's won six straight
since then, a few split decisions, a lot of time off.
A Karine silver coming at Silva coming after her, who's

(01:44:12):
five and one overall, the only loss to vivianne Urujo.
I still think the same motor that makes Macy Barbara great,
back fully healthy again, is still going to be there.
She can take you down, she can ground it pounds,
she's mean, she's aggressive. Does she end up fighting for
a title?

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
I think she will, mm hmm okay. Whether this is
the one that gets her there, I'm not so sure. Uf.
She's probably a little bit cautious given some of the
health concerns and delays and or impediments that that has caused.
But I think as a general prospect, they want her
in positions of prominence for sure, and I think she'll
earn them long.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
No, Louk, what are the odds here?

Speaker 6 (01:44:47):
Minus one eighty for Macy, plus one fifty for Karina.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
It's a tough fight, right, That says, right, yeah, all right,
I'll be looking at that fight closely. That Uh. To
close out the preliminary portion of the card, Nazim Soadakov
against Ferice Ziam, the man who sent Matt Ravola to
hell in France in a lightweight About what are we
expecting here? If you're saying nothing at all, then I'll

(01:45:12):
just move on.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
No, it's a fun fight. Both guys are pretty talented.
I saw what's his face? He was cornering Uh. Nazim
Sadakov was cornering a guy I was commentating for for xFC.
He's a big He's big for that weight class, surprisely,
although Ziam is kind of like like like lengthy for
the weight class as well. They're both far enough away

(01:45:34):
from doing anything super interesting that I think the conversation
is a little premature. But this is a this is
a meaning of talented prospects. I can put it down
to a.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Four zero and one in the UFC. The one draw
against Slava Claus, who keeps showing up in these conversations he.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
Does this is by way, it's the best division of sport.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
He's been saying that for years, even after Bandam weight
took it over. Now, we didn't take it over. It
never did. I will always write welter. History has continued
to prove me right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
This is this is why, like these are the top
forty lightweights maybe something like that, and they're awesome. They're
really good, Like on a good night they could beat
top ten dudes, which is like, this is why lightweight
rocks like Free Sea arms on a really good run
right now, bank So Sadykov.

Speaker 2 (01:46:18):
Like seven to one in his last day is the
only loss by subist Terrence McKinney, who will either get
you or your guy.

Speaker 4 (01:46:24):
Yeah, So it's this is exactly why lightweight is as
good as I've always said it is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
Put a lightweight finding a card I'm in. That's it.
I need nothing, all right, Jed. Let's go to the
early preliminary card where suddenly some names pop up and
the featured early prelim on ESPN Plus, Disney Plus and FX.
Is that really true? It's still airs on FX, so
I'm not sure the lord, uh Marvin Vittori is somehow
showing up here against Bruno Fajita. What happened? What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Three losses in a row, I think at least maybe
four for Vittori, whmber he beat Roman de LEDs and
then rematches him and then lose it three in a
row and four of his last five. Yeah, he's in
dire straits. I mean, the guy was young, and he's
like very good, and he's like, oh, by the time
he fully rounds out everything, he's gonna be great. And
then it's just he's only thirty two.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Let's he never he never found a finishing gear, whether
that be knockout, submission or even dominant wrestling ground and prown.
He's sturdy as ship. He can take a punch like nobody.
You'd say he's a pretty good offensive fighter. He's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:47:31):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:47:32):
Look, he's the tenth best middleweight in the world, and
that's that is not a criticism. People don't if I
was the tenth best podcaster, I was the tenth best mm.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
A podcaster, that would be cool. Do you think he's
the tenth best.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
This barred lawyer in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Oh, there's a lot of lawyers, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:51):
I used to live in Georgia. Brother, there's a lot
of way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
What's your Georgia hometown?

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
Well, I live in Atlanta. I'm from Savannah. You went
to high school in Savannah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
I went to high school in the most southern so
being a bald ashed the guy like yourself. When you
hear he's from Savannah, do you look down on him
or do you reprospect? No, he would look up at
us because Valdosta is just what.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
I mean, the football team's great, he claims.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
Marietta else also, as I mean, Marietta is much more.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
I went to high school freshman, sophomore in Valdosta junior senior.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
Oh so he's much more so Marietta's class year. Well,
it doesn't take much because, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Can't argue that you don't hear me jumping in to
defend the chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:48:37):
Yeah I have, Okay, I mean it's it's an institution
where we talking about important Before we were talking about
Marvin Victoria, lightweight banger, alert Edson Barbosa, Jalen Turner.

Speaker 3 (01:48:51):
What are we expecting turn coming off that retirement been
around forever nine?

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Dude, who's more cut right now than Edson barbos Like?
Just rip old guy? Rich?

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
Is he on?

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Saw what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
He's on the I hope he shares it with me.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
Okay, he's riding a two fight losing skid. We'll watch
it at least, are you guys down on that Ewo
baron Eski against Ebo Arslan light Heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
I like it. It's he's kind of interesting for a bit.
I mean, we're so far apart.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
From but he's lost two in a row. He was
interesting in the Uh, there's two other fights. But unless
you want me to bring up Antonio Trocoli losing not
only the head coaching position but the boyfriend status with
champion Mackenzie Dern, I mean, mons Malik is going to
slaughter that man, so that would be fun to watch.

(01:49:45):
Do you have anything else to say before we slabber
our way to the finish?

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:49:49):
I mean I think we covered every single fight except
Naimov Santos.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
I don't have much to say about that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
We will be back, of course, on Friday to give
you the final Fight week update, give you our final picks.
If they've changed, we'll look at what went down and
the week that was for Fight Week UFC three twenty
three in Las Vegas. Also on Friday, we'll be getting
you fired up for Saturday's PBC pay per view. Right,
I'm pure san Antonio BC on the call. We down

(01:50:18):
for this well, Matt Roach Junior versus Estak Pitbull Cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
Let's go, let's go that car in general pretty good?

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
Yeah, Laara versus Jannebak Middleway tutally here there's a great
guy working at Yeah, the older guy Fulton. O'shaki. This
is so good.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Let's cool, let's cool. Okay. Jed Meshe of MMA fighting
dot Com has been our gut. You keep touching my
knee under this well, uh, Jed?

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Yeah, you guys are gonna have sad.

Speaker 2 (01:50:43):
I really doubt that, Jed. We're big fans of your work,
you know, I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Maybe we can check you out this week on a
few shows. What should what should we be looking out
for this week? If we're big fansmayfight dot com.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
It's a great website. We'll have preview show. We do
a watch bar between the links.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Yes, yes, once used Grahdon Pappy's musket as a bump.
I'd never done that, but that would be incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
That would be incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
That's, frankly, a really good idea that I should investigate doing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Do we use all the lower thirds? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Okay? Important? So now you have you can think of
new ones for the next time I come.

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I come, it's great website. Great website. Well, well, we'll
see you on the No Betts Barred podcast with Long Island.
Long Island Luke's joining me this Wait, how many podcasts
do you have? Look that one's mind, but he comes
on a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Oh right, okay, all right, LT.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
Anything the fan should be looking out for before Friday
when we when we reconvene.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
We'll do tape studying on my substack and then live
watch along and postfight show on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Alright, we tape studying. Who we tape studying?

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
We will tape study. It's a good question. We're probably
gonna tape study the first Yawn and Morob fight and
then we'll do some Josh Van tape study.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
I wanted to tell you fans of the BCX that
we're back this week. We got to interviews Wow, Antojia, Van, Morob,
Peyton Talbot, all right, Slate a couple of those I'm
talking to tonight. So get fired up this week. Check
out the BCX.

Speaker 3 (01:52:10):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:52:10):
It's still alive, but maybe I'll be making a comeback
more to come on that. To close here, PHELT, this
has been a fun event, like is it a top
twenty five pregame pre full time. Probably not right, it's
just just forget yeah, yeah, but from a friendship standpoint, right,
feeling the musk that you know as we get that
smell out of our face there, jed. What the fans

(01:52:32):
really want to know is what is your favorite nineties album.

Speaker 4 (01:52:35):
Of all time?

Speaker 6 (01:52:36):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Yeah, my favorite nineties album of all time? Yep, yep,
Because you know if you said, if you said ten,
if you said computer, I'd be with you. Now I'm
trying to think, like, what is use your illusion one?

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
I mean, where are you going with this here?

Speaker 4 (01:52:54):
Nineties is like technically my lifetime and I went back
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
But it's like I was just sneak old too. You'd
think he's like a twenty eight year old piece of
six you, yeah, be a.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Guy who's h.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
You'd never guess you're about to enter the Tom Hanks
version of your career. But it's the Philadelphia Push And yes, yes,
it was a Polar Express Pinkerton in the in the
nineties it was I'll Go Pinkerton. We are very very
good album. That's a really good album. Look, what is
your favorite album.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
From the nineties? The answer is vulgar display of power.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
I mean, come on, wow, Pantura, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
I'm gonna go with ten by Pearl Jan what about
you Long Island.

Speaker 6 (01:53:36):
I'm going verses, but I'm gonna give honorable mention to
Dukie and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Dukie actually might be that. Yeah, I've probably listened to
du more.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Third Eye self titled black album is pretty big, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Also the low end theory by a tribe call Quest
come on album, Come On Wait nineties fuck enter the
Wu Tang was in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
So yeah, that's the answer I was. I was. I
was with my wife. We went to restaurant to restaurants
on on on Friday in Madrid, No No, no here
in d C. And we left one and they were
playing music there and it was Notorious Big and we
walked by another one and outside they were playing a
different Notorious Big song and she literally asked, why do
people like this?

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
And I was like, but your wife also likes death metal, right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Different kind of death metal, But why do people like this?

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Is what I say to her.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
That's what I was. Yeah, I've been to her concerts.
They're the worst I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
She gets the she gets the Norwegian fucking just stare
at you, metal losers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Look, would you agree with something I said in Morning
Combat four and a half years ago that the Tiffany
Emberthesian who showed up on nine on two and oh
may have been the hottest moment of the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:54:48):
I mean, we can wrap this up. Okay, we can.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
You're wrong. Cyber Monday sales still going on on Morning
Combat dot shop. Her name was Valerie, Valerie Malone and
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Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Why don't you? Why don't you?

Speaker 2 (01:55:10):
Average Joe art behind a lot of those. Joe Rameiro
also fueling us for our December exclusive. It's he Man time, Fellas. Okay,
let's get after it. The most powerful merch in the universe.
Get the T shirt. You can even get three XL
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Speaker 6 (01:55:26):
Oh yeah, right, every shirt is small through three XCEL
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Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
By the way, all proceeds go to Long Island. Luke
lt and MEBC. It's the best way to support the
show Morning Combat. Dah shop you just you were wouldn't
have bought it if I knew it was going to
he could have got a free you know item, and
he bought it one to support our show before anything.
I'm a fan of it. I'm a fan of the show. Yeah,
that's true. That's true more than your you know, that's

(01:55:52):
a fair point. You know, sometimes the show is just
so good you don't want to end it, you know
what I mean. It just it seems that you're trying
not to. Yeah, it's like very like in middle school,
just extending. Okay, I mean, by the way Night Eyes was,
Shannon Tweet was a hell of a series.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
I've not seen that bullshit called the show all right, all.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Right for a Long Island. Luke Nosida of the Main
Card Minute m M A Fightings, Jed Meshu and Luke
Thomas from Antrack Bathroom Fame. My name has been Brian
Campbell and this is Morning Combat. Thank you for watching.
Thank you to Ken, Ken the best, right never the best?
Ken and Nadir hope you feel better. We missed Matt

(01:56:30):
Snyder today, but we have a lot of love for him.
To peace, we out of here.

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