From Dolphins to Democracy: Joey's Bold Senate Run in Florida

Moe Davis, not to be confused with “Mo,” dives deep into the pressing political landscape of Florida in a lively discussion with guest Joey Mendoza Atkins, a spirited attorney and Senate candidate. They kick things off with a light-hearted jab about the political climate, but soon delve into the serious challenges facing their state. Joey shares his motivations for running, driven by a genuine fear for the future of the country and a desire to bring fresh perspectives to the table. The conversation flows from the importance of engaging with young voters to the stark realities of a shifting political narrative, all while maintaining a tone that balances urgency with humor. As they navigate the complexities of current elections, both Moe and Joey emphasize the need for authentic representation and the power of grassroots movements, rallying listeners to join in the fight for change.

Takeaways:

• Joey Mendoza Atkins, running for Senate in Florida, emphasizes the need for authentic leadership during challenging political times.
• The podcast highlights the importance of being proactive in engaging with voters and addressing their concerns effectively.
• Joey discusses his experiences and frustrations as a Dolphins fan, paralleling them with the need for resilience in politics.
• The episode delves into how the Democratic Party can revamp its image and approach to connect better with working-class voters.
• The conversation stresses the urgency for Democrats to win elections by addressing real-world issues affecting everyday Americans.
• Joey expresses a strong commitment to making a positive impact and combating political complacency for future generations.

Links referenced in this episode:

• joeyforflorida.com

Companies mentioned in this episode:

• Muck U
• Ashley Moody
• Marco Rubio
• Ron DeSantis
• American Bridge
• Madison Cawthorn
• Mario Diaz-Balart
• Tom Tillis
• Mark Meadows
• Dolphins
• Carolina Panthers
• Florida
• Airbnb
• Western Carolina University
• Cocoa Beach
• Guantanamo Bay

Episode Transcript

(00:06):
Hey, folks, David Wheeler herewith Muck U. Happy to be with you
on a lovely day up in themountains. And with me is my co host
and good friend, Colonel MoDavis to introduce our guest today.
Take it away, Mo.
Hey, thanks, David. Andwelcome back, everybody. And as David
said, it is a beautiful dayhere in the mountains of western
North Carolina. And todaywe've got Joey Mendoza Atkins on.

(00:30):
Joey is running for Senatedown in the great state of Florida.
He's an attorney, a sportsagent down in the Miami area. He
was the Democratic candidateback in 2024. And it was House District
26 ran against Mario Diaz,Bell, Art and Joey, I think we probably
owe you an apology. I knowyou're. You ran in the 26th district

(00:53):
back in 2020. I ran up here inthe mountains against Madison Cawthorn
and he's down, I guess aneighbor of yours now in the 19th
district in Florida runningfor office. But I'd like to. I'd
like to refer to that asgetting even. Florida sent us Tom
Tillis and Mark Meadows, sowe've returned the favor and given
you guys Madison Cawthorn.

(01:14):
I appreciate that. Yes. Yourbest and brightest down here. Always,
always, always, always, youknow, happy to hear that. Thanks.
Yes.
Yeah, whatever we can do tohelp for that gift. We'll keep sending
you hurricanes then, huh?
Oh, thanks. Yeah, we're. Yeah.What a difference a year makes. This
time last year we were really,really hurting, but things are getting

(01:37):
better.
Yeah.
It's a special election comingup down there. The. The Senate race.
It's the seat that Marco Rubioheld and Governor DeSantis appointed
Ashley Moody, who I guess isthe incumbent running on the Republican
side, and Joey's running onthe. The Democratic side. So. Hey,
thanks for taking time to join us.

(01:57):
Of course. I gotta say,actually, I, I was up in an Asheville
area this. About this timelast year, so actually maybe almost
to the day, I might havereturned today, one year ago back
to Florida. So I was therejust after, you know, seeing the
effects of the, of thehurricane or the flooding, I guess
it was. Right.
Yeah.
You know, I just, even. Eventhough it had happened, I think,

(02:19):
you know, weeks or so beforethe, the way that the economy was
still affected, certain roadswere impassable. I remember I stayed
in Airbnb and there was, youknow, basically disclaimers that
the, hey, like, don't drinkthe water. It's still not. It's probably
not a good idea. So hopefullyit recovered. And as I think before
we got on, I expect to Be upthere in about a week or so to go
visit a couple players atWestern Carolina University who won

(02:41):
quarterback. They're having aphenomenal year.
Yeah. Great.
Yeah. So be up there soon.
Yeah, Good deal. Yeah, we, youknow, I think you'll see when you
come back. You know, we'vemade a lot of progress over the past
year. Still got a ways to go.Things aren't. Aren't like they were
before, but, you know, everyday you see progress and it's getting
better. So. Yeah, come onback. We need more people coming.

(03:01):
Yeah.
Back to the mountains ofwestern North Carolina.
When, as an aside, when I wasa child, I lived in Banner Elk, North
Carolina.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Bottom of BeachMountain, I believe.
Yeah. We. My wife and I have ahouse up at Beach Mountain. We just
came that back Friday. Yes.We're. We would have been taping
from.
Yeah. Learned how to ski,learn how to snowboard there. And

(03:24):
my mom likes to tell thisstory because I went up there for.
I was four or five years oldand it might have been kindergarten.
And, you know, growing upbeing a Florida boy. Right. Going
up to the, to that part of thestate. I remember. And I kind of
remember this, actually. And Iknow my mom likes to tell a story.
So I came home from like thefirst day of school and. And she
goes, how was it? And I said,like, mom, I can't understand anything
these kids are saying. Suchheavy accents, you know.

(03:48):
Yeah, we do kind of have ourown dialect up here.
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, listen, that youhave to come back up and go skiing
it. I was reading todaythey're hoping to open on November
24, but, you know, it justdepends on. On how the, how the weather
goes.
Yeah.
Hey, well, listen, let's startwith the important stuff. The dolphins
are 2 and 7. People. People.We don't have video, but you are

(04:11):
wearing a Dolphins cap. Whenwe were talking earlier, they're
currently ranked. Ranked 29thout of the 32 teams in the NFL and
they're playing the Bills nextSunday. How much longer is Mike McDaniels
got left there in Miami?
You know, I know somebodymight look at me today and say, well,
you know, why are you wearinga hat? As you know, why are you.

(04:32):
Why are you showing love todayafter, you know, all they put you
through, not just this season,but past 35 plus years? And I said,
well, because today, as ofthis last couple of days, they appear
the owner finally decidedthat, hey, when you haven't won a
playoff game since, you know,he's been the owner of the team.
And when you have the same GMwho's been in charge of building
the team for, you know,however, like, the better part of

(04:55):
a decade plus, maybe we shouldchange that position, you know? And
I'm thinking, oh, my gosh. My.My. My expectations are so, like,
so low that I'm looking atthis as, like, genuine progress.
So I was just talking to aclient before I got on the phone
as well. Like a legal clientof mine, a law. One of my. One of

(05:16):
my clients in a lawsuit. And,you know, he was like, hey, man,
so, you know, what do youthink? And I'm like, hey, listen,
maybe about six, seven yearsfrom now, we can start competing
again. So that's optimism. Itmight sound like cynicism, or this
is optimism again. So, youknow, this is how bad it is. So I
actually attribute maybe mygrowing. Not my growing, but maybe

(05:37):
my cynicism in life and mysort of expect the worst to happen.
I'm pretty sure I can trackthat to being a Dolphins fan. It's
my entire worldview.
Well, you're too young toremember, but I remember the glory
days, you know, back when youhad Don Shula and Dan Marino and
Larry Zonka and had theperfect season. So there's great
history down there. Of course,you know, we're sympathetic. We got

(06:01):
the Carolina Panthers here,and we're doing better than we've
been doing.
But you've seen them in thesuper bowl, at least. I. The Dolphins.
Last time they were in thesuper bowl was, like, the year before
I was born. So my. My glorydays. And I was a. I was a quarterback
in college, and Dan Marino wasmy hero growing up. That's why I
became a quarterback. And so,you know, my glory days were still

(06:24):
basically getting punished bythe Bills to go to a Super Bowl.
But that's thinking that, hey,at some point, we'll kind of cross
that bridge. And we havedefinitely not crossed that bridge.
So, you know, I'm beginning tothink that this may never happen.
I might not ever actually seemy team in the Super Bowl. Like when
I was 7 and 8 and I would crymyself to sleep, and my mom worry
they'll be maybe next year. Ibelieved her. Now I'm. I'm maybe

(06:47):
a little bit spiteful andresentment, resentful, because I
don't know if that's going tohappen, so.
Well, hang in there. I mean,you remember for. For years and years,
Bill's fans thought that theywere just cursed.
Yeah.
And, you know, things willturn around. Hey, let's talk about
the, the Senate race. What,what compelled you to, to jump in
and, and run for the Senatedown there in Florida?

(07:08):
Yeah, no, it's. So, you know,of course they ran last year in a,
in a sort of being pulled into a very highly uncompetitive race.
So I had no, you know, noillusions about that. It was, at
the very least, I figured I'dtry my best, get my feet wet, sort
of learn the game, create abit of a network and, and, and, and,

(07:29):
you know, go on as far as Ican take this. And so in terms of
this election, I was reallyexcited just for so many reasons.
Number one for this race isbecause it's, it is a midterm. You
know, midterms. They, youknow, we tend to, you know, the party,
non power tends to, to dowell. You know, you have Ashley Moody
in that seat who wasunelected, was appointed and, you

(07:52):
know, to say she has a sort ofa checkered history politically is
an understatement. And numberthree, I think most importantly,
which is why I got in and wantto stay in as long as I can is because
I'm genuinely, I'm genuinelyafraid, man. I'm not going to lie.
Like, I'm kind of scared forwhere this country's headed. And
you know, you know, I couldtry to sound positive and optimistic

(08:13):
and I, you know, we can be. Ifwe can make the right changes and,
and win some elections here,I'll feel exponentially more optimistic.
But we have to do those thingsbecause if we don't, I'm genuinely
scared. And so for where thiscountry's headed. I'm a student of
history, like I suspect youguys probably are as well. And I've
seen this story before, and Ithink a lot of people think, well,
like, well, this is the USit's, it's different here. Well,

(08:35):
it's different because it'sjust never really happened here,
but it's not because it can't.And I think people need to take this
a little more seriously. Sofor me, it's, I'm not like, I can't.
You wouldn't want me to come,maybe change your oil or if you have
a plumbing issue. That's justnot my skill set. I'm a lawyer, you
know, I, I'm a policy geek. Iknow how to solve problems. That's

(08:58):
what I get paid to do. Andthis is the only skill set. This
is a skill set I have, andthis is the skill set I have in which
to try and make my Country abetter place to make my state a better
place. And, you know, I feellike this is just something I have
to do. It's just a compulsion.
Yeah, Yeah, I know what you. Iknow what you mean. I. You know,
I think people, my generation,you know, looked at Germany. I mean,

(09:18):
I've been to Germany a coupleof times. They're great people. And
you. You look at it, you go,how in the hell could they have fallen
for, you know, Hitler and thewhole Nazi movement back in the 30s
and 40s? And, you know,suddenly we're. We kind of got the
answer because we're. We'reliving, you know, in similar times
where it's happening here. Soit kind of, you know, you'd like
to think those kind of thingscan't happen, but, you know, here

(09:41):
we are. On the Republicanside, I know Ashley Moody was appointed
by my old friend Ron DeSantis.Sure. Yeah. Ron was a. I was the
chief prosecutor down atGuantanamo Bay, and Ron was a young
naval attorney, so weoverlapped there at Guantanamo a
bit. I never imagined backthen he'd end up where he is now,
but he appointed Ashley Moody.It's like she has a primary opponent

(10:05):
named Jake Lang, who was oneof the January 6th domestic territory
terrorists. So quite a choicethere on the Republican side.
Sure. And, and as you mayknow, that's. That's sort of interesting
for her to have a, you know,a. A primary opponent with that background,
given Ashley Moody's headed upa dark money group that funneled.
Funneled cash to the. To the.To the rioters, you know, to the.

(10:29):
To the traders. And so. Andthen. And then afterwards, you know,
would later go on to, youknow, join, I think was Texas in
terms of trying to overturnthe election, even though she knew.
And there's. It's sointeresting. There's. There's leaked
emails and. Or public leaked,but there's emails where she and
her office were completelyaware of the bogus nature of the

(10:54):
suit and then the next dayjoined anyway, knowing how full of
shit it was. So this is whatwe're dealing with. And, you know,
and, and the idea thatsomebody's going to come challenge
her as part of that, as twobirds from a feather, Right?
Yeah.
So this is the Republicansbest and bright. As I say, this is
what they're all about.
Yeah. And on the Democraticside, I think they're.

(11:14):
They're.
You and a couple of othershave officially announced, but there's
some other folks that have atleast expressed some interest, like
Alan Grayson, Alex Fenman,Jared Moskovich. So how do you, how
do you, you know, you're goingto have. It's like at least the potential
for a pretty crowded field onthe Democratic side. How do you rise
above that and get yourmessage across and win this thing?

(11:37):
Yeah, no, I appreciate thequestion. You know, we're running
our own race, right? You know,I think in many ways, truthfully,
I want as many, you know, goodcandidates in the race as possible.
I think this is what's goodfor the party to show, to show the
country. Like, let's behonest, the party isn't overly popular
and for good reason. And so,you know, so I'm. I'm. Whether it's

(11:59):
this race or any other racearound the country, I want as many
good Democratic candidates toget in there and at least show the
country, like, hey, listen,you know, whatever image you might
have of us, whether it's, youknow, valid or not, like, here's
who we stand for. Here's whatwe are. Here's who we stand for.
We're not like that image youhave of us. We just. We mean well.
We care about the country, wecare about our state, and we just
want a better place foreverybody because we're a bit nervous

(12:21):
about the direction we'reheaded. So I'm all for a good candidates
getting involved, and we'regoing to run our race no matter what.
And I just think there'swhoever going to jump in. There's
nobody quite like us, youknow, given our background, just
the energy, the spirit, themotivation, you know, the, The. The
one thing that both partiesor. Or constituents of both parties
can agree on and which isabundantly clear after the most recent

(12:45):
presidential elections, thatboth parties desperately want young
new blood in politics. And whocould blame them, right? And so,
you know, I'm young. I don'thave a. I didn't grow up in politics.
I am an outsider. You know, myjob is to solve problems. I'm a policy
geek. I'm a history nerd, and,you know, and I'm an attorney, right?

(13:08):
And so while I have thequalifications and the background
and the relatability that, youknow, most don't, I'm also not maybe,
to lack of a better term, sortof corrupted by the system and way
of doing things. And I thinkthis is what people want. And, you
know, you know, you know,Grayson or, you know, Vincent and
whoever may jump in, you know,they're not going to be able to say
those things, right? They've.They've sort of been in and around

(13:29):
politics for quite some time.And again, I think what the, what
the people want is somethingdifferent. They want fresh new blood,
new ideas. And that's exactlywhat we are.
Now, I mentioned earlier thatI was stationed in Cocoa beach back
in the 80s, and back thenFlorida was a Democratic state, Democratic
governor, you had Democraticsenator. And you know, if you look

(13:52):
back, Rubio when he ran in2022 got 57% of the vote. Trump last
November got 56% of the vote.So if you make it through the primary,
how do you overcome, you know,what seems to be a pretty, you know,
fair sized Republicanadvantage in the state of Florida?
Sure, yeah. I mean, so it'simportant to sort of look and understand

(14:14):
maybe, you know, I thinkwe're, there's, there's a, there's
an instinct and, or acompulsion to give a great deal of
credit to Republicans for, youknow, the, the, the strides they
had made in the state. Andthere are certainly things that they
have done and they were veryproactive in ways that the Democratic
Party was just notspecifically on. Reaching out to

(14:35):
young people, specifically toyoung men, to men generally, whether
it be Hispanic men, black men,white men, whatever it may be. They
made a lot of importantstrides there because they saw an
opportunity in a window to, tosort of create some space and, and
capture some constituency. Andthe Democrats that like wholeheartedly
being full stop, you know, so,so for us, I think one of the things

(14:55):
that we can strive to do andlike, and I, I just think there's
a, we have an inherent abilityand in authenticity, in the way we're
going about this is that wecan talk to these people. You know,
I grew up in a Republicanhousehold. My, my family is very
much Republican. Right. Stillto this day, I don't know if they
would consider themselves MAGAor not. You know, I don't, A lot
of people are sort ofembarrassed to, to sort of claim

(15:16):
that but, you know, doeverything and support every policy
MAGA puts forward. But I very,I know, I know how they think. I
know how they, what makes themtick. I know how to talk to them.
I have, I spent my entirelife. If I want to have a conversation
with them, I, you know, it's,we can talk about these things and
you have to do it in a reallycareful way. But I can do those things.
I can. And this is just theway I was brought up. And so the

(15:37):
idea is that, listen, theDemocratic Party has a messaging
problem and a messengerproblem. That is their biggest issue.
I will probably be morecritical of the Democratic Party
than anybody else out there.Right. I, I've seen these problems,
and I've seen what they'vedone is such a failure that it's,
you know, cost, you know,millions of people. You know, ultimately
there, there's consequences totheir failings. Right. And we're

(15:57):
seeing it play out now. And Ibelieve I can sort of help, you know,
rectify this, bring this back,and I can capture and recapture and
reach out to a lot of thevoters that we have either lost or
certainly help gain new votersfor young people who have maybe never
voted before. I think I can dothat in a way that nobody else can
in the state. And so we're.There's a way to sort of recapture

(16:18):
some of that ground that we'velost and even gain new ground in
areas that any, no othercandidate or politician is going
to be able to do in Florida.
Joey, it's great to meet youand, and thank you for coming on
our show here. Tell folkswhere they can learn a little bit
more about you and, and ifthey're inclined to make a donation.
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.So, you know, anybody could go onto

(16:39):
the website. It's pretty easy.Is joey4florida.com and four is spelled
so f o r joey4florida.Com oron Instagram, you know, Joey for
Fl or Joey for Florida, againwith the number four that time. So
check the website, checkInstagram, search by name. And I'm

(17:01):
pretty, you know, send me amessage, act blues there. So, yeah,
you know, sign up for theemails. There's pretty simple, pretty
clean website there foreverybody to go to.
Okay, so that'sjoey4floridafolks.com and it's j
o e y o r Florida. So, Joey,so what motivates you? You know,

(17:23):
running for office. Mo and Iboth run. Both lost. Mo should have
won. I never should have run.What, what motivates you, man? I
mean, what gets you out of bedin the morning and makes you go out
and talk to people that don'tnecessarily want to talk to you?
Yeah, yeah.
So you personally.
But yeah, yeah, no, yeah,well, well, in a, in a, in a, in

(17:46):
a very literal sense, youknow, sometimes, I mean, I probably
like you. Sometimes I'll watchthe news or read an article and my,
my heart's racing, right.Thinking about this because I'm either.
It's just so angry orfrustrated what I'm reading or hearing,
and that I'm like, I got to dosomething because it would be easy
for that to turn me off. Ideathat we should, a system that we

(18:09):
know creates winners andlosers. We should, you know, maybe
do our fucking job and atleast make sure the, quote, people
who aren't winning in thesociety also have like, the basic,
you know, sort of mechanismsin life to like, have a roof over
their head, to be able to eat,make sure their children can eat,
and they can therefore have anopportunity. People should have health
care, right? Like, weunderstand that this is a win and

(18:31):
lose society. Well, let's atleast do our best and try and make
sure that people who aren'tnecessarily winning right now at
least have an opportunity andhave some dignity. And so part of
the system that we have, whichis really scary, is the idea that
we all know and that, youknow, I think I'm like a millennial,
right? And I just miss sort ofgrowing up in, you know, in high
school. Like, I remember my, Ifirst heard of Facebook, like my

(18:54):
second year or second or thirdyear of university was first time
I heard about it, right? So Ijust sort of missed that time of
growing up with, let's say,social media a major influence in
my, like, developmental, youknow, the development of my life.
And, you know, now we fastforward 20 years or so and, you know,
we, we have a society nowwhere we monetize and, and make profit

(19:17):
off of engagement. And we alsoknow that these people who run these
social media platforms, whichare like the primary ways that people
are consuming information now,is not focused on truth and, and
reality and accuracy. It'sjust focused on engagement, farming
and, and, and, and, and, andvalidating people's own insecurities
and promoting their owninsecurities. So you might be saying,

(19:38):
well, what the. Does this haveto do with an election or what you're
doing? I said, well, becauseeven sometimes when I'm really feeling
a bit like letting thesepeople sort of live in the world
that they're choosing forthemselves, I do empathize with them.
And I do understand that theway we obtain and disseminate, disseminate
and obtain and hold on toinformation is all of us over, right?

(19:58):
It is. And therefore thedecisions that we make are predicated
on this information, right? SoI do have sympathy. Even when I see
the most MAGA of MAGA outthere, I kind of know the, the bubble
that they're living in, and Iknow how difficult it is for them
to escape that or to even knowof another world. So the point is
that even with people that Ireally have a hard time empathizing

(20:19):
with, sometimes I find myselfstill Doing it. Right. Because I
understand that throughwhatever life circumstances they
have, often through no faultof their own, and the choices that
they make are often predicatedon, you know, information that is
being funneled to themdeliberately for them to make a decision
that might be against theirinterests. So to the extent that

(20:41):
I can be aware of this andmaybe do something about it, I'm
going to do it. Maybe it's thecompetition, me as an athlete, that
this is just my sort of thenext phase of where I feel like compete
and, and, and push and pushmyself and push boundaries and push
limits. But ultimately it's onme because, you know, when I'm on
my deathbed, I need to be atpeace with what I've done and who

(21:02):
I am as a person. And forwhatever reason, I want to look back
and say, I tried my very best.I tried to do good. I tried to create
the most amount of good forthe most amount of people. So hopefully
when I am on my deathbed, I'mnot afraid and I'm at peace with
it. And well, let's hope,let's hope that.
Deathbed isn't for another 80or 90 years, but. So interesting.
You sound like an interestingguy and very passionate. You know,

(21:25):
I, I posted the other day,actually yesterday, you know, who
gives a. Whether immigrantshave health care and benefits that,
you know, the tax differencebetween what they pay in and what
we pay out is, isconsequential. I mean, they, they
pay a lot more in than theyget back. And God forbid that we
feed some kids and, and givesomebody some health care so they

(21:47):
could have it a decent life.But yeah, I don't know how we got
to this place. You know, theDemocrats didn't necessarily contribute
to it, but in some ways theydid because of the candidates they
put forth and the way they'verun campaigns.
Yeah.

(22:08):
How do you feel about, youknow, Democrats hitting back hard?
Mo and I talk a lot on thisshow about how Democrats are kind
of wimps. Mo always says theybring a quinoa salad to a knife fight.
And so, so how are you gonna,how are you gonna beat the, out of

(22:28):
the, whoever the Republicansput up.
Yeah.
And win, more importantly, notjust beat people up, just beat them
up, but win.
Yeah, Well, I think there's,you know, a connection to beating
them up and winning because,you know, you know, even myself,
you know, I've looked at the,the impotence in which the Democratic
Party has just conductedthemselves and over the last decade

(22:51):
or so, and, you know, they'vealways Been the party of process,
you know, which is inprocedures, which is sort of fine,
unless you are the onemanipulating the game, which is what
the Republicans do. Now, theprocess doesn't matter. But, you
know, I mean, just look what,you know, John, is Mike Johnson's
not even swearing in electedDemocratic politicians, right? You

(23:13):
know, they're so. Who gives ashit about that? You can complain
about the process, but this iswhy it's so important to recognize
that politics is about power.You know, I hate to, you know, call
it what it is, but it. That'sexactly what it is, right? And I
think people out there, partof the image and the branding issue
that the Democrats have isactually quite, well, quite justified,

(23:33):
you know, and they're, they'resort of specific examples that I
have in mind. But just, youknow, this is the brand and the image
of the Democratic Party. Andhonestly, it's well earned. And I
think people in a game ofpower, which politics is, if you
are not projecting power,people, you know, in our sort of
like, you know, recentlyevolved ape brains see this as well.

(23:56):
Why should I trust you? Youknow, why should I trust you? You
know, it's like in arelationship, if you're, you know,
if you're a partner, you know,let's say in a, in the, let's say
a heterosexual relationship,let's just say. And, you know, you,
you, A wife wants to, youknow, have a man, a husband that
they can think to protect andprovide for them, but you're a wimp.
Can she trust you to protectand provide for them? No. No, she

(24:19):
can't. You know, and sosometimes maybe the, the, the demonstration
of beating the other peopleup, you know, metaphorically or not,
is maybe a bit silly and maybea bit over the top and absurd to
do. I mean, you don't want tojust beat the. Out of people because,
you know, that's your way ofcommunicating. But I think there
is sort of validity and beingable to project power and strength
and confidence, which theDemocratic Party has not seemed to

(24:41):
do. They seem like they'realways asking, you know, you know,
for somebody to come down and,like, talk to them versus just grabbing
the microphone themselves. Andso when you talk to people out there,
a lot of people think that theRepublicans are nuts. Maga's certainly
crazy, right? But. And whilethey might not vote for Trump or
whoever or support, you know,some of these Republican candidates,

(25:03):
they feel a bit weird aboutthrowing their force, you know, voting
for a Democrat because theyhonestly just think it's a weak impotent
party. And again, I can'tblame them. So to answer your question,
as you probably tell by theway I talk and, you know, maybe my
background as an athlete andthis and that, like, I just am not
cut the way that a traditionalDemocrat, or at least the image of
a traditional Democrat is sortof cut or built. This is who I am,

(25:27):
this is how I talk this. Youcan probably hear me getting fired
up because I am like, when Italk about this. And so I think that
sort of confidence and, and,and, and, and that determination
might actually instill, in aweird sort of way, a bit more trust
and, and relatability to thecommon man out there who just wants
somebody to fight for them,right? That's all they ask. Just

(25:50):
fight for me. Like, fight forme, bro. Like, I, I, I can't be there
doing this myself. I need youto do it for me. And if you cannot
project that type of strengthand confidence, why would they think
you're going to fight forthem, right? And so it is a branding
thing, it is a message thingand a messaging thing, messenger
thing and a messenger thing,but like, it is a real thing. And
remember these people, as muchas a big, I might read, you know,

(26:13):
about the, I might go to sleepreading about the, I don't know,
you know, so the, the economicpolicies of Azerbaijan for fun, like,
I'm a policy geek, but that'sjust how I'm sort of built. And I
have the time and energy to doit. But I recognize most people in
this country, you know, theywork 8, 9, 10 hours a day for a job,

(26:33):
for wages, and they'reexhausted. They've got 12 bosses
who tell them what to do andmake them feel emasculated or, you
know, unimportant. And they gohome for a couple few hours, they
hang out, watch a little tv,watch a little Netflix show, sort
of check out for a bit, andthey go to bed. They don't have the
time or energy to simply readall these policy papers and, you

(26:54):
know, understand the dynamicsand dimensions of fiscal policy and
how it relates to a growingeconomy. They just don't. So they
needed to trust us to do it.So they need to trust that we're
both competent enough to do itand also have the determination to
fight for every inch in frontof us. And the Democratic Party until
recently, has seemingly notunderstood that in the way the Republicans
do.
Hey, Mo.
Over to you.
Mo.

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Yeah, Joey, I, I totally agreewith you. There's an article in Politico
a couple of days ago it wasbased on an in depth analysis by
a Democratic super pac,American Bridge. And in the article
said working class voters seeDemocrats as, quote, woke weak and
out of touch. How do we, youknow, as David mentioned, he and

(27:37):
I have, you know, fought toothand nail here in the mountains of
North Carolina. The DemocraticParty, you know, seems to embrace
being woke, weak and out oftouch. Yeah, I mean, how do, how
do we, how do we change that?We got to, you know. Yeah, we gotta
fight. I mean, yeah, justliterally, but figure not figuratively.
Literally, we've got to fightor we're going to lose this country.

(27:58):
So how do we change thatmindset in our party?
Yep. Listen, it's, it's ananswer that a lot of people I, I
don't certainly within theparty and party establishment are
just not going to like. Andyou know, before I think we got on,
we were probably, you know,and maybe, maybe earlier in this
convo, I, I black out thinkingabout this because it's. But when
I think about the Dolphins.Right, the Miami Dolphins. Right.

(28:21):
So again, for 25 years since,you know, Stephen Ross has been the
owner of the club, have notwon a. Or 17, 18 years, I think he
made, was it 2008, but almost20 years they have not won a playoff
game. Right. Okay. And the NFLis so interesting because it's designed
in such a way to, you know,where you can have quick swings between
being really bad and reallygood, then really good and then really

(28:42):
bad. And it's almost designedfor teams to be pretty average with,
with outliers on, you know,like almost like an evenly stratified
sort of outlier or deviationsof good and bad. The Dolphins have
like remarkably been, youknow, between incredibly average
and incredibly terrible withreally nothing, nothing else, which
is kind of fascinating. Right.And so every year you can point,

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you know, over the last 20plus years, I think their last playoff
one was, I was in high school.And every year you can say, well
this year, you know, we had agood team, just some bad luck, you
know, with a couple calls froma couple refs. And then this year
we had a good team wherequarterback just got hurt and da,
da, da. This year, that yearwe were just terrible. Then this
year our coaching and thenthis year we one or two field goals
that we would have made or theother team miss and we're blah, blah,

(29:25):
blah, blah, blah, you canalways find something. But when you
kind of zoom out and you lookover the last 20 plus years and say,
yeah, you know, whatever thereasons may be from Year to year.
The fact of the matter is thatover those 20 plus years, we haven't
won a playoff game. There's ainherent problem. You've had different
coaches, different managers,different players, different, you
know, GM is, differentplayers, different scouts. And somehow,

(29:47):
somehow the problem remains.So what does that mean? It means
there's a cultural problem,maybe like a, a psychological problem
with the club. Andunfortunately, to change that, you
need to like quite literallyhit a reset. You could do it quite
quickly. And, and, and youknow, from the top down. It, you
know, my, my concern with theDolphins that you still have the

(30:07):
same owner. That same owner isthe one who's been responsible for
hiring the person to build theteam. And I'm just not convinced
anymore that he can do itbecause he hasn't yet. And so my,
to answer your question, Ithink we just need new leadership.
New leadership and newcandidates and new, you know, new
blood is going to say, youknow, hey world, see, listen, we

(30:32):
sound different, we lookdifferent, we speak differently,
and we actually, you know, aremore focused on maybe a few different
types of policies that are, asyou put it, which I agree don't appear
to be as woke. Right. And Ithink the woke sort of image of the
party is a. I don't want tosay it's like unfair because I think

(30:52):
a lot of, you know, betweensocial media and how Republicans
have just make everything intoa culture war and they're super disingenuous
and if not just outrightlying, you know, they're always going
to have a little advantagewhen they're not playing by their
own rules that they make up asthey go. But the Democratic Party
has sort of allow this tohappen by not being stronger in other
areas. For example. And Ibring this up, you know, I ran for
Congress last year and so Iwas kind of more intimately involved

(31:15):
in the elections generally andcampaigns and working with candidates
and elected officials. And Igot to admit, you know, and I get
into the nuance, I don't justlet this. I don't watch CNN and shit
like that. Right. And I haveto admit, and I brought this up before,
and this, and this might be myown intellectual failings, but I
am a person too. When I closemy eyes, when I close my eyes and

(31:38):
I say, and somebody says, hey,David, like, or Joey, hey, what do
you think, you know, the, theDemocratic Kamala Harris campaign
in the party stood for duringthe last election? What comes to
mind? If it's like a Rorschachtest? And I close my eyes, I think
women's issues, which isn't abad thing, that's great. But if I'm
a. Any kind of a man out thereas an example, and I believe, and

(31:59):
I believe that the Democrat,and this is me, that when I close
my eyes, I think of theDemocratic Party kind of, that we're
here to support women's rightsand X, Y and Z. And I'm thinking,
that's cool. But imagine ifyou're a guy out there, right, and
you have one party thatappears to be all in for women, then
you have the other partysaying, hey, man, bro, dude, we're

(32:21):
here for you. Like, you needto be on top again. Because, you
know, right now that partyover there is trying to make you,
you know, inferior. Listen,all they talk about is abortion.
All they talk about is this.All they talk about is that. And
if you're a good man, you'regonna. You're gonna. Women. You're
going to support women. That'swhat I've seen Democratic commercials
sort of saying. So, like, thatit's like, if you're a good dude,
a good dude supports women.And that is technically true. A good

(32:44):
dude does support women. Butfrom a branding and messaging standpoint,
it is very easy to take thatmessage and just turn it into something
else much more toxic and isalso effective and touching on people's
insecurities and primalnatures. So this is a problem. And
I think, you know, evensometimes when, when I, as a younger
person and I'm around, I workwith athletes, right? I work with

(33:05):
college, you know, young pros.I work with group all the time. And
if you ask a Chuck Schumer orHakeem Jeffries to start talking
a little bit differently,start coding their language a little
better, it just doesn't feelright, does it? It doesn't feel authentic
and genuine. I rememberhearing, you know, I was listening
to Chuck Schumer the other dayor, you know, on the Morning Joe

(33:26):
or something, and he said,what? You know, wtf? And it sounded
so forced and cringe. Yeah, Iknow. Young people had been saying
that for the last 20 years.And somebody told you to do that
to make it sound like you'remore relatable, but it just doesn't
come off. And it will never.Because at the end of the day, he's
an older guy who's been inpolitics and since I was a child,
right? He's. He's. He doesn'tremember, I suspect, what it was

(33:49):
like recently to have, youknow, negative $48 in your bank account.
And I got rent due in six daysand I don't get paid for 12. He doesn't
know that feeling. He justdoes it right. And a lot of this
country knows they, they livethis day after day. And if you don't
know the feeling or you don'tremember how the could you possibly
relate to them or communicatewith them in any sort of authentic

(34:11):
way where they can say, heyman, that guy, he's kind of like
me and he's going to supportme. They just can't do it. So to
answer your question, we needa revamp and fresh politics and politicians
and candidates and fresh ideas.
Yeah. One thing I'm glad tosee, you know, I ran in 2020 and
there were some progressivegroups that wouldn't support me and

(34:32):
particularly like on the GreenNew Deal, you know, like 52 provisions
in the Green New Deal. Andsome of them are very, you know,
very well defined. And Isupport like, you know, at my house,
I've got, you know, solar, Idrive an electric vehicle. You know,
I believe in the Green NewDeal, but parts of it were notion.
I mean, you couldn't defineexactly what it meant. But if I wouldn't
promise to support, you know,all 52 provisions and, well, we can't

(34:55):
support you. And my argumentwas, well, you know, your option
is me or the little Nazi boy.And it didn't matter. So I was really
pleased to see that the party,Bernie Sanders, there's an article,
interview with him in the NewYork Times yesterday, and this is
a quote from him. He said, soyou've got to be tolerant. I mean,
so what, you don't agree withme on every issue. What am I going
to do? Give up? We got to worktogether and come up with the best

(35:17):
plan that we can.
So. Right.
I'm glad, I'm glad to see thatsome in the party are beginning to
see that we've got to, youknow, you can't say, hey, we agree
on 24 out of 25 issues. Thatmeans I can't support you. And on
the other side, I mean, if youlook at, you know, on the Republican
side, you can be an ardentZionist or you can be an anti Semite,
right. And they'll stillembrace you and welcome you in the

(35:38):
party where ours has been.Well, if you don't agree with, with
us on every issue, you're notwelcome here. So how do we change
that? How do we make our tent bigger?
Yeah, and forgive me, there'sa bit of a fire alarm going off.
So I don't Know if you guys.But yeah, so it's. Right. And again,
what you're. My understandingwhat you're describing is a sort
of a branding messaging issue.And, and I agree, like, I generally

(36:01):
support whatever, you know,was in the, quote, Green New Deal.
Like a lot of that's just goodpolicies, you know, to be sort of.
Can you guys hear that?
No, I did a minute ago.
Can you hear the background?
You can edit this out, Joey.
Don't worry.
Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah,so. Or not. It's all good. It's all

(36:26):
good.
So we're seeing how you reactin, in real time.
Well, so, yeah, and if you need.
To go, man, go.
I mean, no, no, no, we don'twant you.
Although that would make for agood show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I,I, I told the, I told the fire chief
downstairs. I said, hey, whenI'm, when I'm losing this, this convo
to pull the alarm and get meout of here. So. No, no, no. They've

(36:49):
been testing out the firealarm in my building for like the
last two days and it justseems to come out at the lit, like
literally the worst time.
Oh, it's Desantis. Oh, it's a conspiracy.
Yeah, no, he's on it. Which,you know, hey, listen, that means
they're scared, right? So,but, you know, you're, what you're
describing is I, and Iunderstand this is, and I feel this
way, is that, and again, thisis a, this is a psychology, right?

(37:09):
It's a, it's a wiring of ourbrain as individuals, as candidates
and politicians in theDemocratic Party, which is going
to be sort of manifested asthe party itself, Right? It's going
to be sort of attached to thator transmitted through the party
itself. And what I thinkyou're describing is that we as both,
as not just just candidatesand, and, and, and, and, and, and
elected officials, evenvoters. We need to be pathological

(37:32):
about winning. Have to belike, this is not a time for games
and anymore where we can havethese purity tests, right? Where
it's like, well, I likeeverything, but, you know, I, I think
they're, you know, theysupport Israel a little too much
for my liking. Like, yeah,yeah, listen, we can have that debate.
All good, but like, we need towin elections because millions of
people are going to get hurtif we don't. And it's like right

(37:54):
now, like, they need tounderstand this, and so we have to
wire our brains differentlyand this needs to be communicated
to them differently. We needto be folk, we need to be absolutely
pathological and obsessed withwinning. Right. And we need to make
sure that this message iseffectively communicated because
what the Republicans do, theyjust scare the out of everybody.
That's their whole goal, ismaking you think that every person
who doesn't look like you isgoing to slit your throat, you know,

(38:16):
when they bump into the street.
Eat your pets.
Yeah, exactly, your pets.Like, oh, that doesn't scare you?
Well, they're going to eatyour pets and your dogs and your
cats and then if not, youknow, they're going to, you know,
rape your kids or they'rejust. They're terrible. So I'm not
saying we do that. We don'tneed to. But the point is that it
needs to be effectivelycommunicated by the right communicator.
Remember, not everybody canjust simply communicate something.

(38:38):
Just they can say the words.But that's not enough. That this
is not for around anymore,man. Like, we've allowed that to
happen too long. If we losethese next couple elections, if,
if we don't start getting ourtogether, like starting today, I
am afraid to think of whatthis country is going to look like
in 10 years. Like, I'mgenerally genuinely terrified. So
this, we need to get over our.We need to put as a party policies

(39:00):
on the table that are not.That are gender neutral, that are,
you know, racially neutral,that are just common sense. They
just affect what everybody'sgoing through. And right now there
are so many things thatRepublicans, Democrats, Independents
are getting on, which is theeconomy, prices of gas, prices of
groceries. These idiot fuckingtariffs are going to be killing us

(39:22):
more and more by the day.Wages are not. One of the reasons
why we're getting screwed isbecause at the end of the day, whatever
the reason, that the cost ofgoods may be rising across the board,
but our wages have notincreased in any meaningful way in
like decades, Decades. Whichmeans we're working more, we're more
productive now than ever andeffectively getting fucking poorer.
And that is a function of thesystem that we have chosen to be

(39:45):
in. So let's do somethingabout it. And also, and again, in
a way that we're not focusedon, like, hey man, trans people are
cool. I have no personalproblem with them. I think they should
just be treated like anybodyelse. But we don't need to make these
items campaign policieseither, or at least allow them to
be sort of connected to us inthat way. Not that we, we trans people
are also having a hard timewith paying a rent, paying a mortgage,

(40:08):
buying a car. Like, let's Helpthem, support them in these ways
that are sort of one size fitsall. The only people who are not
going to like me and mypolicies as I go forward are billionaires.
So if you're not abillionaire, I think you're going
to like what we have to say.
Right? Yeah, I agree with you.I think for too long our party has
been more concerned aboutdecorum than about democracy. Right.
And if we don't win elections,you can't do about policy. You got,

(40:32):
you know, you got to win.
Doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah,you've got to, you've got to win
first and win by any meansnecessary at this point because the
other side, our opponent,that's what they're doing. And if
we don't step it up, they'regoing to keep doing it like it is.
There's an unfortunately,there is no other way. You know,
we either meet the moment orwe don't. The decorum is going to

(40:52):
cost people lives, literallymillions of American lives.
Yeah. Let me ask about onemore thing and I'll kick it back
over to David to close us out.You know, I've been a member of the
supreme court bar for 36 yearsand proud of it for most of that
time. And you know, it seemedlike, particularly like during the
Bush administration, the kindof like now Congress was not particularly

(41:14):
willing to exert theirauthority to constrain the, you know,
abuses of the executivebranch. But the judiciary came through
and kind of held up theguardrail, it seems like now the,
the Supreme Court. I'm not asproud as I used to be of having that
certificate on my wall.
Yeah.
I'm just curious, you're anattorney, what's your take on the

(41:37):
state of the judiciary, thatthird branch that's supposed to be
a check and balance on theother two.
Yeah. It's horrifying anddepressing. It really is. And unlike
other sort of areas. And thisI think goes to more of what we were
saying about why it's so vitalevery election to be pathological.
Absolutely pathological isbecause while elections and, and

(42:00):
you know, the House and theexecutive can change from, you know,
election to election, it tendsto, and hopefully, hopefully we'll
get a change here soon. Butyou know, if you just happen to be,
let's say, the president at atime when, you know, a couple Supreme
Court justices either passaway or step down or what have you,
well, you might have justshaped the fabric of the, the, of

(42:21):
the country for, you know,generations. Right. So there are
long term effects that wereally, really need to recognize
going forward and hope.Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we've
learned our lessons aboutthis. But when we get complacent,
even for one round or one yearof elections, whether it be a presidential
or midterms, what have you,there are long term consequences

(42:44):
that are hard to quantify andunderstand until it's too late. And
this is why we cannot take anyelection for granted. Any election
for granted. At the statelevel the same thing occurs, right?
You can't. And at the federallevel, this is what happens, right?
Like this is, this is amassive, massive problem that we
are, that is, that isgenerational in nature. So I'm, it's
unfortunate. It is what it is.You know, hopefully, you know, if

(43:08):
anybody is spiritual as, orbelieves in some divine intervention,
hey, I'm willing to sort of bea believer. Like let's start with
the Supreme Court and createsome sort of of, you know, opportunity
to get new judges on there.But, or new justices. But yeah, it's,
it's one of those things thatjust goes to show you that unfortunately
there are long termconsequences if we are not, you know,

(43:30):
pathological about winning inthe short term. And you know, the,
the makeup of the SupremeCourt is, is, is a great example
of that. And, and there's nota whole lot we can do except for
learn a lesson moving forward.
So Joey again, Joey. J O E Y fo r florida.com folks, learn more

(43:52):
about Joey. If you'reinclined, please donate to his, his
campaign. He's in, he'srunning. And the fact that he showed
up on our show is enough prooffor you that he's a good guy. Plus
he, he now has the record onthis show for the most F bombs. I

(44:12):
stopped counting, I stoppedcounting. But I think we should probably,
probably go back and count allof them. And you're my kind of guy,
you know, the world use thatword. Why can't politicians?
Yeah, yeah, you know, I, I,whoever created the word, I appreciate
it because there's very fewwords out there that kind of can
encapsulate a feeling that youreally communicated other than the

(44:32):
F word. And so, you know,special shout out to my mom and dad
for, you know, using that wordagainst each other every time they
got into an argument, youknow, so, which was daily almost,
but, but no, I appreciate itguys. Have a, like I said, I hope
at least you guys can, youknow, you, this is who I am. And
I think one of the issues thatunderstandably most Americans have

(44:56):
with Congress generally is,you know, there's this image that
everybody's so slimy and selfinterested and full of. I might be
a lot of things, right, butinauthentic and is not one of them.
And, and I think who I, thisis who I am, for better or for worse.
But you get what you, you getwhat you see, I guess, right? Or

(45:16):
you see what you get. So I hada great time, guys, on here. I, I
was trying to set the recordfor the longest, you know, show.
But hey, listen, I'll take therecords where I can get them. And
you know, I am an athlete anda former athlete, a sports guy. So
records are good as long asyou get into the books, you know.
There you go.
Well, I was, I was just alittle bit speechless.

(45:37):
But.
So Joey.
Yes, my guy.
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you,I agree with you. I think being authentic
is great. I tried to beauthentic and people didn't really
like me, so I wouldn'tnecessarily run on authentic Again,

(46:00):
personality change.
But, but you know what theysay, like if, and I do agree with
this is everybody likes you,then I'm a bit suspicious that person.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
All right, so a guy we do likeand a friend of this show he's been
on a couple times is DavidJolly. And I just have so much respect
for him. I think he's a greatperson, a great politician. How is
he doing in that Democraticprimary race for governor?

(46:24):
I think he's doing okay. I gotto, I think I was present at his,
where he made his announcementthat he was going to run because,
because it, I mean, the, thevenue he announced was I, I mean,
maybe 200 yards from where Ilive in, in Miami, in this, in my
neighborhood in Miami. So Igot to see him firsthand there and

(46:45):
I think he's got a lot ofgreat qualities. I think he's doing
fine. I, I've, you know,speaking with some of the heads of
certain party at the party atdifferent county level, I think even
recently spoken with some ofthem and they're always, they've
been very impressed orencouraged by the turnout for some
of the events, which, youknow, include, you know, sort of
paid events. So I think that'sa good sign of things to come. I

(47:06):
just hope he can continue to,you know, work on or, or continue
to sort of connect withdifferent demographics and different
groups throughout the state,important voter blocks. So, you know,
I'm not sure how he feelsabout it, but so long as he can kind
of continue to, to be a man ofthe people, I think he will set himself

(47:27):
up to be in pretty good shape.So it's still early, of course, but
seems like a good enough guy.I think it takes them balls to, over
the last year or so to be ableto jump, you know, from the Republicans
or, you know, NPA to becominga Democrat or an independent Democrat.
I think that takes somecourage and, you know, unlike, I
think it takes cowardice to bea republic or a Democrat that your

(47:49):
whole life. And then at thisstage in the game to, to sort of
jump to the Republican side asa way to win and grift. So he did
the opposite. And I, and I,and I'm, I, I very much respect that.
So I hope he continues to sortof, you know, grow, grow his race
and, and, you know, continueforward to get a good guy up there
in Tallahassee.

(48:10):
Yeah, that would be. Boy,could you imagine if, if David won?
That's, that's the kind ofmessage we need to send to the country
that Democrats can be goodpeople and win and, and not be about
it. And, you know, David isnot a little, he's not as harsh as
probably you and me, but, youknow, we'll, we'll do some of that
work for him hopefully in thatelection next year. And, and again,

(48:34):
we really appreciate youjoining us, Joey. David Atkins, joey4florida.com
A terrific guy. And anybodythat comes on this show obviously
needs a, a good look. And ifyou, if you're inclined, folks, please
do donate to Joey's campaign.He's running for the United States
Senate in Florida.
Yeah.

(48:55):
And he will have a primary, Iassume. What's that look like so
far? Very quickly.
So there's a couple peoplethat I'm sort of familiar in. You
know, a lady out of BrevardCounty, I believe, jumped in. I think
she was a, like a school boardbackground, you know, so, so there's
some, some good youngerpeople, my understanding, sort of

(49:17):
getting into the race. Youknow, like I said, I, I'm happy about
that. I want great candidatesto be in here and show the state
and the country that, youknow, you, the image and idea you
have of us are, is, is a bitoff base. So, so I'm, I'm pretty
pumped about that. But like Isaid, I, I, we just, we have our
own race here to run. And, youknow, I'm not overly really concerned
what they do. There's no othercandidate with the background and,

(49:40):
and, you know, the energy thatwe have. And so I think we just continue
to do what we're doing. We'llbe fine. But, yeah, Like I, I've
heard the good things aboutsome of the candidates that have
jumped in. I just haven't hada chance to really meet them personally
or anything, but hoping to doall right.
Said like, said like a truepolitician. You never say your opponent's
name. Yeah, that's My mothertold me and well, Joey, Joey David

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Atkins, it's been a pleasurehaving you on. Muck you.
Yep.
And did you know that Mo Davishas a lovely wife, Lisa, and he completely
married up. He's such a luckyguy. Did you know that, Joey?
I didn't know that, but youknow what I mean, I can. It all sort
of makes sense now because,you know, had a smile on his face

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and seems to be in goodspirits and now it now attracts completely.
So yeah, she's. She's quitethe woman. And he's. Well, he's.
He's an okay guy too.
Yeah. Hey, you know, he must.He at least faked it enough. Right.
And that's all. That's a skillset in itself. So. Hey, you know,
my, my praises to you sir. Andif I may just add one thing, just.

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Yeah, go ahead out there. Justyou know, you know, obviously visit
the website, follow me or onInstagram or social media because
what we're going to do in thenext month or so is we are going
to announce and have a. We'regoing to visit every single county
in the state. So in a. In apretty nice tour. So we'll make,

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we'll make our round. So ifanybody's in any county, I don't
care where you are in Florida,the north, the south, the panhandle,
Jacksonville area, wherever itmay be, we're going to be visiting.
So if you want to, if you haveany ideas, places to go, if you're
gonna interested in showingup, volunteering or just.
Or hosted, maybe even host.
Yeah, host. Grabbing a beer,having a cigar or an espresso, whatever

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it may be. Just you know,join, you know, join us on Instagram,
join us social media and youknow, shoot me a message and we'll
make sure that we get togetherand make the most of this.
All right, cool. This is DavidWheeler with my co host Mo Davis
and we thank you for joiningus on Muck you.
This has been Muck U co hostedby Colonel Mo Davis in Asheville

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and David Wheeler in SprucePine, North Carolina. Thanks to our
guest today, Mr. Joey MendozaAtkins, a sports attorney and candidate
for United States Senate forFlorida based in Miami. More on Joey's
campaign [e-mail] special thanks to Emily Matthews
for helping get Joey on ourshow. Muck U is produced by American

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