April 28, 2023 • 16 mins
On November 24th,1971 A man boarded a 727, ordered a burbon and then pulled off the most legendary sky-jacking of all time. Listen to this episode of Murder Squared as Makayla shares the mysterious story of D.B. Cooper.
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(00:17):
Hello, Hello everyone, and welcomeback to another episode of Murder Squared.
Here we talk about the solved,the unsolved, the missing, and the
murdered and pretty much anything and everythingin between. In today's case that I
have for you definitely falls in theanywhere in between category. Today, as
(00:38):
you can tell by the title,we are going to be talking about the
infamous case of dB Cooper. SoI'm not sure about everybody else, but
I have heard bits and pieces andlegends along the way of the infamous skyjacker,
and this is the full story.So if you're ready, get squared
(01:00):
away and let's talk murder. Fiftyone years ago, on November twenty fourth
of nineteen seventy one, this isthe day before Thanksgiving, a man bought
a ticket for flight three oh fiveat the north Western Orient Airlines in Portland,
(01:23):
Oregon, and this was a oneway ticket to Seattle. Now,
the man buying this ticket provided thename Dan Cooper, and once aboard the
plane, the man ordered a bourbonand soda. Once the plane had departed,
the man slipped the flight attendant,Florence Schaeffer, a note, and
at first she really ignored this gesturealtogether because she thought this guy was being
(01:48):
a creep, that he was justgoing to be hitting on her, making
a pass at her, and shetried her best to ignore him. Now,
this man didn't look out of place. He was wearing a suit and
tie. He did have dark sunglasseson, which, looking back, she
did think that was kind of weird. It was a pretty cloudy day.
But he told Florence read the note. It said, quote, miss,
(02:09):
I have a bomb in my briefcase, and I want you to sit beside
me. So Florence sat down nextto him, and he began making a
list of demands, the first beingthat he wanted two hundred thousand dollars and
he wanted it all in twenty dollarbills. Now in today's economy, that
would be a little over a milliondollars. And he wanted the authorities to
(02:32):
provide him with four parachutes. Keepin mind, while all this is happening,
they are in the sky. Soto make sure that she understood the
seriousness of the assignment, he openedhis briefcase and showed her the bomb.
It was six sticks of what sheassumed were dynamite and wires crossed in between
the sticks. So he showed herwhat he would have to do to detonate
(02:55):
this bomb in his briefcase. Nowshe understood the threat, and she understood
what would happen if she did notfollow his demands. So Florence went into
the cockpit and she gave his demandsto the pilot. The pilot radio to
Seattle Tacoma. That's the airport wherethey would be landing, to make the
arrangements for the money and the parachutes, and this all needed to be waiting
(03:19):
on them by the time they landed. So the pilot made an announcement in
the plane that they were having alittle bit of engine trouble and that he
wanted all of the passengers to moveto the front of the plane. The
plane landed and the flight attendant exitedthe plane and she went to retrieve the
money and the parachutes from the detectiveswho were there waiting and already had it
(03:42):
ready. This plane was surrounded byFBI agents and snipers. The man had
instructed the crew members to close allof the blinds on the plane so no
one could see inside. There werethirty six passengers and they were released unharmed
in exchange for the two hundred thousanddollars. Now, until the plane had
landed and the passengers were safely outsideof the plane and in the care of
(04:05):
the FBI, they had no ideathat they were hostages. So all that
remained on this plane was Dan Cooper, the flight attendants, and the pilots.
So the man known as dB Cooperinstructed the pilot with his new travel
plans, and he told the pilotthat they were going to Mexico City and
(04:26):
that they would stop in Reno onthe way for fuel. That's not all,
though. He gave the pilot specificinstructions, not of where to stop,
what to do, or anything likethat. He told him how to
fly this plane. He told himhe should go two hundred and fifty miles
per an hour. He told himat what point to put the wings down,
(04:49):
the height, and the minimum thatthe wings should be down, and
that this was going to be aseven hour trip. And the pilots they
were afraid to fly that low.The plane they were in wasn't made to
fly like that, but they reallyhad no other options. They had a
guy on their plane with a bourbonin his hand and a list of demands.
(05:09):
They had no other options. Tinaanother flight attendant on the plane,
sat next to him on the flight, and other than the fact that he
had a bomb, she recalls somebeing rather pleasant. He smoked eight cigarettes
while on the flight and drank twobourbons. At eight pm, he ordered
Tina to go lock herself in thecockpit with the pilot and not to come
(05:30):
out until the plane had landed.At approximately eight twelve that evening, somewhere
between Seattle and Reno, the manparachuted out of the plane with his ransom.
No one saw him jump out ofthe back of the plane, but
they felt pressure in the cabin shiftand the back of the plane was open,
and all that remained was a tiethat he wore, so no one
(05:51):
knew the outcome of this jump.It was actually storming at the time and
they were over rough terrain. Butsoon hundreds of agents and volunteers would be
searching the area for the skyjacker.Initially they thought that they would spot him
hanging somewhere in the trees or deadon the ground, but there was no
evidence of that ever to be found. This man would forever be known as
(06:15):
dB Cooper into this day. Hehas never been found. Now you might
be thinking how did we get dBCooper from his plane ticket saying Dan Cooper
because dB wasn't his name at all. The name dB actually came from a
reporter that overheard agents discussing the caseand somehow came up with the name dB
(06:38):
when it was actually Dan. Butthe press ran with it, and for
the last fifty one years, thishas been the infamous name of the skyjacker.
From passengers testimonies, a sketch wasmade of Cooper and a broad description.
They believed that he was somewhere betweenthirty and forty years old. He
did not have any distinguishing marks oran accent. Very little evidence, but
(07:00):
many suspects have transpired from the legendof dB Cooper. So in nineteen eighty
nine, years after the skyjacking,evidence was found by a six year old
boy named Brian Ingram. He foundfifty eight hundred dollars in cash along the
Colombian River in Vancouver. This moneymatched the description. It was all in
(07:21):
twenty dollars bills and had serial numbersthat matched those on the ransom bills.
Over the past fifty two years therehave been quite a few suspects. Nothing
ever really came of this money.That Brian Ingram found. So we're going
to go over a few of themost common spect Richard Floyd McCoy was an
(07:42):
expert jumper in five months after theNorwood jack, that is what the dB
Cooper skyjacking had come to be knownas. McCoy skyjacked another seven twenty seven
flight and jumped, but passengers inthe flight that were actually with EB and
saw him said that McCoy was notthe same guy. Another suspect was Barbed
(08:05):
Dayton, a woman that had previouslybeen known as Robert and was an ex
marine merchant, and she was suspectedto be Dan Cooper. There were a
lot of suspects and most of themhad some type of either flight experience,
they were military somehow, or theyhad knowledge of how parachutes worked. Another
(08:28):
popular suspect was a man named LynnDoyle or LD Cooper and was turned in
by his niece for suspicion of beingthe hijacker. So Lynn was turned in
by his niece Marla after he cameto Thanksgiving dinner in nineteen seventy one with
a blood stain on his shirt,and a sketch was released of dB that
had a lot of similarities to Lynn. He was obsessed with this comic series
(08:54):
of Dan Cooper. This comic seriesit was a Canadian fighter pilot and Lynn
had these posters all over his wallsof him. And it wasn't a secret
that whoever pulled off this crime,like I said, they had to have
experience with parachuting. But Lynn,he did not have that experience. Someone
(09:15):
that did, however, was anothersuspect named it Kenneth Christiansen. Kenneth was
a trained paratrooper and an Army veteran. He was also previously a flight attendant
and would have had knowledge of flightpatterns. Kenneth was also known for having
a love of Scotch and cigarettes.But at the end of the day,
the FBI said all the evidence wascircumstantial and that Kenneth was too short to
(09:37):
have been dB Cooper. So theevidence that was left behind, we have
a glass of bourbon, we havecigarette butts that were smoked, and what
was left of Dab's tie in theback of the plane. And testing has
been done over the past fifty twoyears. Believe you me, testing has
(09:58):
been done and it hasn't brought themanywhere. They would consider this evidence to
be inconclusive. So what has comefrom DB's jump. As far as we
know, the money wasn't spent.If it was spent, it wasn't tracked.
Most people believe that dB was aCanadian. Now, another important piece
(10:20):
of information for you is is thatskyjacking in the sixties and seventies was pretty
common. It was just as commonas I feel like your house getting broken
into. To be honest with you, if you go back and look at
the reports, there were tons ofpeople hijacking planes. And the only thing
(10:41):
that has made DB's case any differentis he hasn't been caught. There've been
plenty of men and even women overthe years. They have said that they
are dB Cooper and that it wasdrug money, or that they were in
it with someone else. There's beenmovies made, of course, and these
legends have all came and gone andhave built the Northwest. There are conventions
(11:07):
to this day of people talking aboutdB Cooper, the Cooper Nights. There
are these conventions where the flight attendantcame to speak people on the plane have
been guessed. I mean, peoplelove this story because in the end,
besides the little trauma, no onereally got hurt. This wasn't your violent
(11:31):
crime. He said he had abomb on him, but he sat and
had a cordial conversation with a flightattendant. He was the international man of
mystery. The FBI in two thousandand sixteen officially said that they are no
longer investigating the dB Cooper hijacking.All right, you guys, thanks for
(12:03):
it. Coming along with me foranother case today. This one is so
interesting and honestly, it's very funto even look at and you know,
go through suspects and look at differentthings that have happened over the past fifty
one years. With the technology thatwe have, you know, they have
done all kinds of DNA sampling andyou know, ran fibers off of the
(12:28):
tie that was left behind, andsuspects have came from that, but nothing
inconclusive. There was a pretty gooddocu series on Netflix about the dB Cooper
hijacking, skyjacking, whatever you wantto call it, and they were pretty
much trying to pin down this oneguy, and I just don't think it
(12:48):
was that guy. You can gocheck that out, you know, if
that's what you want to do.But there is a lot of great information
out there about dB Cooper and likeI said, this has fueled an obsession
for the Northwest for the past fiftytwo years, and it will continue to
be that way. He is aman of legend. He you know,
(13:09):
got away pretty much scott free.And it makes you think if they found
fifty eight hundred dollars of that moneyin Vancouver along the Columbian River, what
was it doing up there when theflight was headed down towards Reno in Mexico
City from Seattle. You know,it just makes you think, how did
the many get up there? Anddid he even spend the money? Was
this just all, you know,a pastime to see if he would get
(13:33):
caught it? You know, itreally makes you think and it makes the
wheels turn. I know, fora lot of people, they think that
at least someone in that plane wasin on it with dB Cooper, whether
that be the fight attendants, pilot, copilot, someone else in the plane
was in on it with him,and that has been the speculation for many
years by many people. I wouldsay it probably would be hard to pull
(13:58):
off a so low, you know, robbery like that, especially demanding money
from the FBI. You had thirtysix passengers on the flight, you had
a bomb in a briefcase on aflight, there's just so much in that
and it makes you think either asomeone was in it with him or would
(14:18):
you even risk wanting to bring someoneelse in on that when you had so
much extate And it's i mean atstate, especially being in the air.
But yeah, you know, terriblethings have happened since then, but we
have a flight laws in place sothat things like that no longer can happen,
and if they do happen now it'salmost an anomaly. But yeah,
this is one of those cases wherewe can sit back and speculate, talk
(14:41):
about suspects, really get into thingsthat you've heard. I know there's quite
a bit of people on here thatare from Washington up in the Oregon area
and things like that. So I'dlove to hear your alls, you know,
side of things, because you allreally get to see how people talk
about this, and I'm sure you'veheard things over the years. So if
that's you, shoot me a messageover at murder Squared at Gmail, anybody
(15:05):
else if you have a case suggestion. This case was suggested by a listener
my mother. She was telling methat I should really look into this one
because it wasn't you know anything violentor crazy, and that it was just
a very interesting case and it isa very infamous case which I normally don't
cover, but I really enjoyed thisone and she knew that it would,
so shout out to mom. Butif you have a case that you would
(15:28):
like to suggest, you can dothat over at murder Squared at Gmail or
the Instagram page. If you're lookingfor a way to help support this podcast,
the best thing that you can dois share this podcast on social media
or with your friends. That's thebest way to help build any podcast is
sharing, rating and reviewing. Thatis how you could help a girl out.
So until next time, stay squareand I'll see you next Murder to Talk
Hello, Hello everyone, and welcomeback to another episode of Murder Squared.
Here we talk about the solved,the unsolved, the missing, and the
murdered and pretty much anything and everythingin between. In today's case that I
have for you definitely falls in theanywhere in between category. Today, as
(00:38):
you can tell by the title,we are going to be talking about the
infamous case of dB Cooper. SoI'm not sure about everybody else, but
I have heard bits and pieces andlegends along the way of the infamous skyjacker,
and this is the full story.So if you're ready, get squared
(01:00):
away and let's talk murder. Fiftyone years ago, on November twenty fourth
of nineteen seventy one, this isthe day before Thanksgiving, a man bought
a ticket for flight three oh fiveat the north Western Orient Airlines in Portland,
(01:23):
Oregon, and this was a oneway ticket to Seattle. Now,
the man buying this ticket provided thename Dan Cooper, and once aboard the
plane, the man ordered a bourbonand soda. Once the plane had departed,
the man slipped the flight attendant,Florence Schaeffer, a note, and
at first she really ignored this gesturealtogether because she thought this guy was being
(01:48):
a creep, that he was justgoing to be hitting on her, making
a pass at her, and shetried her best to ignore him. Now,
this man didn't look out of place. He was wearing a suit and
tie. He did have dark sunglasseson, which, looking back, she
did think that was kind of weird. It was a pretty cloudy day.
But he told Florence read the note. It said, quote, miss,
(02:09):
I have a bomb in my briefcase, and I want you to sit beside
me. So Florence sat down nextto him, and he began making a
list of demands, the first beingthat he wanted two hundred thousand dollars and
he wanted it all in twenty dollarbills. Now in today's economy, that
would be a little over a milliondollars. And he wanted the authorities to
(02:32):
provide him with four parachutes. Keepin mind, while all this is happening,
they are in the sky. Soto make sure that she understood the
seriousness of the assignment, he openedhis briefcase and showed her the bomb.
It was six sticks of what sheassumed were dynamite and wires crossed in between
the sticks. So he showed herwhat he would have to do to detonate
(02:55):
this bomb in his briefcase. Nowshe understood the threat, and she understood
what would happen if she did notfollow his demands. So Florence went into
the cockpit and she gave his demandsto the pilot. The pilot radio to
Seattle Tacoma. That's the airport wherethey would be landing, to make the
arrangements for the money and the parachutes, and this all needed to be waiting
(03:19):
on them by the time they landed. So the pilot made an announcement in
the plane that they were having alittle bit of engine trouble and that he
wanted all of the passengers to moveto the front of the plane. The
plane landed and the flight attendant exitedthe plane and she went to retrieve the
money and the parachutes from the detectiveswho were there waiting and already had it
(03:42):
ready. This plane was surrounded byFBI agents and snipers. The man had
instructed the crew members to close allof the blinds on the plane so no
one could see inside. There werethirty six passengers and they were released unharmed
in exchange for the two hundred thousanddollars. Now, until the plane had
landed and the passengers were safely outsideof the plane and in the care of
(04:05):
the FBI, they had no ideathat they were hostages. So all that
remained on this plane was Dan Cooper, the flight attendants, and the pilots.
So the man known as dB Cooperinstructed the pilot with his new travel
plans, and he told the pilotthat they were going to Mexico City and
(04:26):
that they would stop in Reno onthe way for fuel. That's not all,
though. He gave the pilot specificinstructions, not of where to stop,
what to do, or anything likethat. He told him how to
fly this plane. He told himhe should go two hundred and fifty miles
per an hour. He told himat what point to put the wings down,
(04:49):
the height, and the minimum thatthe wings should be down, and
that this was going to be aseven hour trip. And the pilots they
were afraid to fly that low.The plane they were in wasn't made to
fly like that, but they reallyhad no other options. They had a
guy on their plane with a bourbonin his hand and a list of demands.
(05:09):
They had no other options. Tinaanother flight attendant on the plane,
sat next to him on the flight, and other than the fact that he
had a bomb, she recalls somebeing rather pleasant. He smoked eight cigarettes
while on the flight and drank twobourbons. At eight pm, he ordered
Tina to go lock herself in thecockpit with the pilot and not to come
(05:30):
out until the plane had landed.At approximately eight twelve that evening, somewhere
between Seattle and Reno, the manparachuted out of the plane with his ransom.
No one saw him jump out ofthe back of the plane, but
they felt pressure in the cabin shiftand the back of the plane was open,
and all that remained was a tiethat he wore, so no one
(05:51):
knew the outcome of this jump.It was actually storming at the time and
they were over rough terrain. Butsoon hundreds of agents and volunteers would be
searching the area for the skyjacker.Initially they thought that they would spot him
hanging somewhere in the trees or deadon the ground, but there was no
evidence of that ever to be found. This man would forever be known as
(06:15):
dB Cooper into this day. Hehas never been found. Now you might
be thinking how did we get dBCooper from his plane ticket saying Dan Cooper
because dB wasn't his name at all. The name dB actually came from a
reporter that overheard agents discussing the caseand somehow came up with the name dB
(06:38):
when it was actually Dan. Butthe press ran with it, and for
the last fifty one years, thishas been the infamous name of the skyjacker.
From passengers testimonies, a sketch wasmade of Cooper and a broad description.
They believed that he was somewhere betweenthirty and forty years old. He
did not have any distinguishing marks oran accent. Very little evidence, but
(07:00):
many suspects have transpired from the legendof dB Cooper. So in nineteen eighty
nine, years after the skyjacking,evidence was found by a six year old
boy named Brian Ingram. He foundfifty eight hundred dollars in cash along the
Colombian River in Vancouver. This moneymatched the description. It was all in
(07:21):
twenty dollars bills and had serial numbersthat matched those on the ransom bills.
Over the past fifty two years therehave been quite a few suspects. Nothing
ever really came of this money.That Brian Ingram found. So we're going
to go over a few of themost common spect Richard Floyd McCoy was an
(07:42):
expert jumper in five months after theNorwood jack, that is what the dB
Cooper skyjacking had come to be knownas. McCoy skyjacked another seven twenty seven
flight and jumped, but passengers inthe flight that were actually with EB and
saw him said that McCoy was notthe same guy. Another suspect was Barbed
(08:05):
Dayton, a woman that had previouslybeen known as Robert and was an ex
marine merchant, and she was suspectedto be Dan Cooper. There were a
lot of suspects and most of themhad some type of either flight experience,
they were military somehow, or theyhad knowledge of how parachutes worked. Another
(08:28):
popular suspect was a man named LynnDoyle or LD Cooper and was turned in
by his niece for suspicion of beingthe hijacker. So Lynn was turned in
by his niece Marla after he cameto Thanksgiving dinner in nineteen seventy one with
a blood stain on his shirt,and a sketch was released of dB that
had a lot of similarities to Lynn. He was obsessed with this comic series
(08:54):
of Dan Cooper. This comic seriesit was a Canadian fighter pilot and Lynn
had these posters all over his wallsof him. And it wasn't a secret
that whoever pulled off this crime,like I said, they had to have
experience with parachuting. But Lynn,he did not have that experience. Someone
(09:15):
that did, however, was anothersuspect named it Kenneth Christiansen. Kenneth was
a trained paratrooper and an Army veteran. He was also previously a flight attendant
and would have had knowledge of flightpatterns. Kenneth was also known for having
a love of Scotch and cigarettes.But at the end of the day,
the FBI said all the evidence wascircumstantial and that Kenneth was too short to
(09:37):
have been dB Cooper. So theevidence that was left behind, we have
a glass of bourbon, we havecigarette butts that were smoked, and what
was left of Dab's tie in theback of the plane. And testing has
been done over the past fifty twoyears. Believe you me, testing has
(09:58):
been done and it hasn't brought themanywhere. They would consider this evidence to
be inconclusive. So what has comefrom DB's jump. As far as we
know, the money wasn't spent.If it was spent, it wasn't tracked.
Most people believe that dB was aCanadian. Now, another important piece
(10:20):
of information for you is is thatskyjacking in the sixties and seventies was pretty
common. It was just as commonas I feel like your house getting broken
into. To be honest with you, if you go back and look at
the reports, there were tons ofpeople hijacking planes. And the only thing
(10:41):
that has made DB's case any differentis he hasn't been caught. There've been
plenty of men and even women overthe years. They have said that they
are dB Cooper and that it wasdrug money, or that they were in
it with someone else. There's beenmovies made, of course, and these
legends have all came and gone andhave built the Northwest. There are conventions
(11:07):
to this day of people talking aboutdB Cooper, the Cooper Nights. There
are these conventions where the flight attendantcame to speak people on the plane have
been guessed. I mean, peoplelove this story because in the end,
besides the little trauma, no onereally got hurt. This wasn't your violent
(11:31):
crime. He said he had abomb on him, but he sat and
had a cordial conversation with a flightattendant. He was the international man of
mystery. The FBI in two thousandand sixteen officially said that they are no
longer investigating the dB Cooper hijacking.All right, you guys, thanks for
(12:03):
it. Coming along with me foranother case today. This one is so
interesting and honestly, it's very funto even look at and you know,
go through suspects and look at differentthings that have happened over the past fifty
one years. With the technology thatwe have, you know, they have
done all kinds of DNA sampling andyou know, ran fibers off of the
(12:28):
tie that was left behind, andsuspects have came from that, but nothing
inconclusive. There was a pretty gooddocu series on Netflix about the dB Cooper
hijacking, skyjacking, whatever you wantto call it, and they were pretty
much trying to pin down this oneguy, and I just don't think it
(12:48):
was that guy. You can gocheck that out, you know, if
that's what you want to do.But there is a lot of great information
out there about dB Cooper and likeI said, this has fueled an obsession
for the Northwest for the past fiftytwo years, and it will continue to
be that way. He is aman of legend. He you know,
(13:09):
got away pretty much scott free.And it makes you think if they found
fifty eight hundred dollars of that moneyin Vancouver along the Columbian River, what
was it doing up there when theflight was headed down towards Reno in Mexico
City from Seattle. You know,it just makes you think, how did
the many get up there? Anddid he even spend the money? Was
this just all, you know,a pastime to see if he would get
(13:33):
caught it? You know, itreally makes you think and it makes the
wheels turn. I know, fora lot of people, they think that
at least someone in that plane wasin on it with dB Cooper, whether
that be the fight attendants, pilot, copilot, someone else in the plane
was in on it with him,and that has been the speculation for many
years by many people. I wouldsay it probably would be hard to pull
(13:58):
off a so low, you know, robbery like that, especially demanding money
from the FBI. You had thirtysix passengers on the flight, you had
a bomb in a briefcase on aflight, there's just so much in that
and it makes you think either asomeone was in it with him or would
(14:18):
you even risk wanting to bring someoneelse in on that when you had so
much extate And it's i mean atstate, especially being in the air.
But yeah, you know, terriblethings have happened since then, but we
have a flight laws in place sothat things like that no longer can happen,
and if they do happen now it'salmost an anomaly. But yeah,
this is one of those cases wherewe can sit back and speculate, talk
(14:41):
about suspects, really get into thingsthat you've heard. I know there's quite
a bit of people on here thatare from Washington up in the Oregon area
and things like that. So I'dlove to hear your alls, you know,
side of things, because you allreally get to see how people talk
about this, and I'm sure you'veheard things over the years. So if
that's you, shoot me a messageover at murder Squared at Gmail, anybody
(15:05):
else if you have a case suggestion. This case was suggested by a listener
my mother. She was telling methat I should really look into this one
because it wasn't you know anything violentor crazy, and that it was just
a very interesting case and it isa very infamous case which I normally don't
cover, but I really enjoyed thisone and she knew that it would,
so shout out to mom. Butif you have a case that you would
(15:28):
like to suggest, you can dothat over at murder Squared at Gmail or
the Instagram page. If you're lookingfor a way to help support this podcast,
the best thing that you can dois share this podcast on social media
or with your friends. That's thebest way to help build any podcast is
sharing, rating and reviewing. Thatis how you could help a girl out.
So until next time, stay squareand I'll see you next Murder to Talk
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