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Hello, Hello everyone, and welcomeback to Murder Squared, the true crime
podcast. Here we talk about thesolved, the unsolved, the missing,
and the murdered. So for today'scase, we're going to be covering the
murder of Robbie Masked. This oneI found on a docuseries on Netflix.
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The episode title is called in HerHands, and oddly enough, I couldn't
find any court documents on this case, but I'm still going to cover it
because it is pretty interesting and Iwould like to know what you guys think
about this one. So if you'reready, get squared away and let's talk
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murder. So our story today beginson August twentieth of two fifteen, and
we're going to be talking about RobbieMass and Lindsay Housing. So, Robbie
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lived what he would call a traveler'slifestyle and when Robbie met Lindsay, they
were at a house party. Lindsayhad just left the National Guard and a
very abusive relationship, and she wasalso in a deep depression and struggling with
alcoholism when they met, and Robbiewas at a very vulnerable place as well.
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He had actually just gotten out ofrehab where he also struggled with alcoholism,
so Lindsay and Robbie immediately connected.She set out to live his lifestyle
with him, and at first shewanted him to live with her. He
really wasn't the kind of person tostay in one place for long, and
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he just told her that it reallywasn't going to work. So either she
embraced his lifestyle or they would partways until they saw each other again.
And at this stage in her life, this is just what she felt like
was best for her. So theypacked up her tahoe and went on the
road. And as much as theyenjoyed being together, there were times in
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this little relationship where Robbie had doubts. He would tell Lindsay that he wished
he could be happy with her,but at the end of it all,
he was just tired of this lifeand that he wanted to know what was
beyond this life. He would oftenmake gestures when things were not going his
way, or if they were justtalking and he was talking about how he
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was kind of down, he wouldgestures of him putting like a finger gun
to his head and shooting himself.And it's important to note too that when
these conversations would happen between the twoof him talking about how he wasn't happy
with this life and he was wantingto move on to the next life.
There was almost always alcohol involved,so Lindsay suggested a pain free option for
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him to die, and on Septembersixteenth of two thousand and fourteen, she
tries to do this gesture for him. So, according it to Lindsay,
when she suggests this painfree option forhim to pass on, he was moved
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by the gesture and that he wasalmost flattered that she would offer to do
this for him. So Lindsay recalledthat he accepted this and that he actually
wanted her to do it, wantedher to do it right then and there
when they were together. So eventhough Lindsay says that she offers to do
this for him and she thinks thatshe knows a way where it'll happen fast
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and pain free, she doesn't wantto do it because at the end of
the day, she says that sheloves him and she couldn't believe that she
wasn't enough to keep him here.She thought that they had started this spontaneous
life together and that it was allgoing to be happy from there on.
Out and they were going to traveland just be with one another. But
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at the end of the day,she says, that's just not what he
wanted. It's important to know thatthis version of events is coming straight from
Lindsay. We'll hear some contradictions alittle from other people, but for right
now, we're going to focus onher tell of events. So she says
that night after she offers this quoteunquote solution to his problem, that she
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is so sad, And she saysthat night she cried and they held each
other. So the next day shesays that Robbie apologizes to her and says
that he should never have expected thatof her or even took her up on
this offer that she had presented tohim. So Lindsay said that she just
couldn't believe at the end of theday, she just couldn't believe that he
actually wanted to die. So thatday he brought up to Lindsay again that
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he wanted to leave this world behindand see what happens in the next life.
And this time Lindsay says she justdidn't want to let him down.
So they are parked in her tahoe, she climbs up on the console in
between her and Robbie. She tellshim to come closer to her. She
then wraps her arm around his neckand puts him in what she calls a
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naked chokehold. She then started tosqueeze until he began to shake. She
then grabbed his nose and chin andheld it so he could not breathe.
After Robbie stopped moving completely, shebuckled him in and then she pulls into
another parking lot and she starts CPR. So, while Lindsay is in this
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parking lot trying to revive Robbie,the person who she's literally just choked to
death, she hears a peck onthe window, and when she looks,
it's a police officer and he askedwhat happened, and Lindsay says, I
killed him. Can you please bringhim back? So, after they try
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to revive Robbie, nothing works,and unfortunately, he is pronounced dead at
the scene. And after Lindsay isin custody, the detective asked her what
was she planning on doing with hisbody? Where did this plan even come
from anyways? And she says,I was going to find a scarcely populated
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place and effing dump him. Soin this interview that I'm watching with her,
this happens in twenty twenty, whereshe is talking about how her and
Robbie met one another and the eventsthat happened that day. So she's talking
about it six years later. Butwhen you watch the interviews of her and
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the detective, this is where we'regetting into the contradictions. So she makes
it sound like she did this awfulthing, but at the end of the
day, she was trying to helpa friend pass. And then you watch
these interviews where she's saying, Iwanted to find it scarcely populated place and
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effing dump him. If I'm talkingabout someone that I love, and I
mean, I would never choke anyoneout that I love, but anyways,
I wouldn't be saying, oh,I'd eff and dump them. No,
I'm not going to say that aboutsomeone that I apparently loved. So that
was like a big red flag toinvestigators anyway when she starts talking like that.
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So then she says that after shewould have dumped his body, that
she planned on to go back toWashington. So when this happens, they're
in Billings, Montana, and shesays that they had road trips there,
and then when all of this wasover, she was just going to pack
up her bags and going back toWashington and just pretend like nothing ever happened
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with Robbie. So the investigator tellsher that he doesn't think that Robbie actually
begged her to end his life,and Lindsay says, no, no,
no, that's exactly what happened.But the very next sentence, she says,
I honestly just wanted to know whatit was like to kill someone with
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my bare hands. So the investigatorscompletely shook by what she just said,
and there's other officers trying to calland inform Robbie's parents back in Clearwater,
Florida of what has happened here.So they learned from Dorry and Jean that
Robbie was twenty five years old,he had left home when he was eighteen,
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and the last time that they hadactually saw Robbie was four months earlier,
when he had gotten out of rehab. And after the investigator hears Lindsay
saying things like I just wanted toknow what it was like to kill someone
with my bare hands, the interrogationshifts and she reveals that her ex boyfriend
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x fiance actually the one that shewas in the relationship before she met Robbie
had tried to kill her in thesame way that she killed Robbie before she'd
ever even met him. And theystart asking Robbie's friends what his life was
like and what Lindsay was like,and they learned that Robbie and Lindsay had
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only known each other for twenty sixdays, that's four weeks of knowing each
other. And and this man apparentlytells this woman that he's only known for
a month, that he wants todie and that he wants her to do
it. So the detective believes thatthere's another story behind the motive of why
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Lindsay killed Robbie, and he learnsthis from a few of Robbie's friends.
So he learns that Robbie was actuallywanting to ride to Montana before him and
Lindsay actually met, and he waswanting to do this because he was wanting
to get back with his ex girlfriendKate. So when he met Lindsay and
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she was ready to embrace this lifestyleand go on the road, and she
actually had a vehicle to do sothat maybe Robbie had some ulterior motives.
Maybe he hangs out with Lindsay,gets the right to Montana, and then
he hooks back up with Kate.So they believe, and the detective believes
that once Lindsay maybe found out aboutthis plan, is what happened. Now
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we know Lindsay has been in themilitary, We know that they both have
a problem with alcohol, and maybethat all played a factor into his death.
You know. She tells them allthe time that they were drinking when
the attack happened. They were inthe parking lot at Walmart. They had
stopped to get some more wine,she says, and that's when this all
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takes place. But when it comestime to go to trial and convict Lindsay,
she actually pleads guilty and she sentencedto sixty years in a women's penitentiary
in Montana. But oddly enough,from Lindsay's conviction, she has found a
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new friendship, a new family,if you will, and this is with
Dory, Robbie's mom and his stepdad, Jean. So ten months after his
murder, Dory and Jean connected withLindsay and they had been ministering in prisons
actually for fourteen years. So theywrite Lindsay a letter telling her that they
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forgive her for what happened, andthey really only wanted this to be a
one letter in done correspondence, butthe letters continue from them to Lindsay,
from Lindsay to them, and eventuallythis leads them even going Montana to meet
Lindsay. Robbie's mom says that sheforgives Lindsay and that she knows that she
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is forgiven by God, and shesays that holding on to that anger and
resentment would only destroy someone. Andat the end of the day, Dory
just really wishes that Lindsay would havetaken Robbie to a hospital where he could
have had a mental health evaluation andthat he could have gotten the real help
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that he needed. But they believethat Lindsay finding salvation has given Robbie's death
a purpose and that this has madeRobbie's death at least meaningful in some way
to them and to Lindsay. AndRobbie's brother and his birth father find it
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very strange this relationship that Dori andJean have with Lindsay, and they believe
Lindsay's events. They knew that theirson was not well, that he was
struggling and maybe her tale of eventsis what happened. But friends and the
detective on the case, Detective SteveHallum, think that there was a little
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bit more to it, that perhapsLindsay got jealous and that that is why
Robbie unfortunately was murdered. Anyway youlook at this, this is a murder.
Whether Robbie did want to leave thisworld or not, this was still
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a murder. So with Lindsay's atsixty years prison sentence, she says that
if she has to serve every year, that she will do it, and
if at her appeals the judge feelslike that she's ready to be let out,
that she will make her life meaningfuland give what she did some kind
of purpose. I'll right you,guys, Thanks for coming along for another
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case. This case is so strangefor so many reasons. I don't even
know where to start. So Idon't know how other people feel about assisted
suicides, but I'm I'm just notokay with it. I under saying that
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there are people in this world,and at different times in their life where
they have just felt like that theycouldn't pursue another day, and that they
are hurting mentally, I just couldn'timagine helping someone or doing that to someone.
I don't know, that's that's justme. I'm I'm at a loss
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for words here. Also, Iwant to talk about Dory and Jean's forgiveness
of Lindsay. That is big,That is huge. I don't think that
I could ever do that. Theway that they have done it is through
their faith, and if that iswhat helps them heal from Robbie's passing and
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his murder, then I'm glad thatthey have that. I just don't think
that I would ever be able todo that as a mom, even as
a Christian. I just I don'tthink I would ever be able to do
that. So I don't know.I think that that's very strong of them,
but me personally, I just Ijust don't see me ever being able
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to do that. So I guessfor this case, I just wanted to
see what everyone else thought of it. Really, everything they're reporting and things
that have happened after this case isfrom news articles that's happened since the Netflix
little series, and I can't findany real court documents. But everything that
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I told you is either from Lindsaythe detective or Robbie's mom and stepdad,
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