Museums n'That

Museums n'That

Museums n'That is the podcast for anyone who thinks that museums are boring. Hosts Meg and Sara from Leeds Museums & Galleries get to the very heart of what makes museum people tick, by asking them the questions that you actually want to know. Does Bruce Springsteen have an archive? Do you ever try any of the old clothes on? What’s the greatest city in the world? Spoiler alert: it’s Leeds.


February 14, 2020 1 min

Ey up and welcome to Museums n'That, a new podcast from Leeds Museums and Galleries. 

Museums attract passionate people like moths to a flame, and this podcast gets to the very heart of the things that make them tick, by asking the questions that you actually want to know.

Do you want to know how to taxidermy a caterpillar? Because same. Desperate to know about Bruce Springsteen's archive? Sure mate. Nee...

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In this first episode, Meg and Sara introduce themselves before interviewing Rebecca Machin, Curator of Natural Science at Leeds Museums and Galleries.

Find out why preserving a caterpillar is especially gross, how one very special gorilla came to be in our collection and most importantly of all, what it's like to shake one David Attenborough's hand. 

Please be aware that this episode features quite grap...

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Meg and Sara interview Errin Hussey, Archivist for the Henry Moore Institute and Leeds Museums and Galleries.

Errin spills the beans on what archives actually are: how they're stored, how you should hold them and what happens when the thing you're archiving is actually an orange.

Find out about Bruce Springsteen's archive, what happened with a packet of biscuits in 1960 and how to pronounce Pearl Ja...

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March 13, 2020 38 mins

Meg and Sara interview Chris Sharp, Assistant Community Curator at Leeds Industrial Museum at Armley Mills and Thwaite Watermill, and owner of the longest job title in history.

Chris talks through his work with local community groups, and how he facilitates people experiencing the museum on their own terms. We cover gardening, mental health, dementia and alpacas in jumpers. And takeaways.

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March 20, 2020 38 mins

Meg and Sara get the tea on the wonderful country of Japan from Adam Jaffer, World Cultures curator at Leeds Museums and Galleries.

We also discover what Humboldt Squids have to do with Peruvian mummies, the incredible commitment of the Shinto monks and, most importantly, where on literal Earth Antarctica even is.

Please be aware that this episode contains discussions about mummification and ritual suicide.

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March 27, 2020 40 mins

This one's a corker. Discover why fish and chips are bad, who's got tiny little teeth and the arty love affair that never actually quite happened.

You'll also do some very good learns too - what's the deal with Henry Moore? Why is some art considered art when it looks a bit like you could have done it? What happens if you accidentally break a sculpture?

Find out everything you ever really wante...

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April 3, 2020 36 mins

Hold tight for sword fighting, Gandalf quotes and diggers that look a bit like hands. 

For the last episode of this first series, Meg and Sara interview Learning Officer Carl Newbould, who works with pupils with special educational needs and disabilities to give them experiences of the world of work. In other words, Carl has the loveliest job.

Discover what that actually means in practice, why Meg hates Paris and ...

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June 16, 2020 49 secs

We've been debating whether to sacrifice the high quality of our recordings (that we're so famous for) for series 2 by doing them remotely. The answer is yes! We're going to. You're welcome. We're sorry in advance.

We'll be covering topics like human remains, moths and inventions made in the greatest city in the world. Series 2 even features some actual real life guests, like Conor from the Na...

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June 26, 2020 35 mins

Bum silk nests. How to shave a moth. Harry Styles. We're back, and starting Series 2 as we mean to go on.

Assistant Curator of Entomology Milo Phillips puts moths under the spotlight in this episode, and we explain the Leeds Museums & Galleries obsession with the little blighters. Swot up on cocoons, caterpillars, and crucially: who would win in a fight, the best ant, or the best bee?

It's good to be...

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July 3, 2020 43 mins

Oh, this is a good one. Conor Clarke from the National Videogame Museum in Sheffield (the second greatest city in the world) has willingly, actually, genuinely come on the show.

We talk videogame history, and explore the logistics of collecting games as a museum. We cover the fundamentals too: Crash Bandicoot or Sonic? Would you sell your turnips to Elijah Wood? Who would play you in a videogame?

The answer is always Dwayne 'The...

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July 10, 2020 39 mins

Trains! Jelly tots! Chicken Jalfrezi! All the major food groups in one delicious museum podcast. 

Curator of industrial history John McGoldrick tells us all about inventions made in the great, nay, greatest, city of Leeds. Find out what Dick Whittington's got to do with railways, how to become an actual rocket scientist and what, definitively, is the best train.
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July 24, 2020 42 mins

Surprise! Our first (questionable) bonus episode.

Turns out Meg and Sara are literally museum professionals too, so get to know more about your favourite museum podcast hosts and what they do every day. 

Find out about the good, the bad and the downright lovely sides of working with museum audiences, why museums need to change and the impact that working in social media can have on your mental health. 


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Artist and Assistant Registrar to the stars (Leeds Museums & Galleries) Emii Alrai is our guest this week, and the content is CHARMING.

Emii brings her trademark virgo energy to the pod as we find out what registrar-ing really means. Emii shares the influence for her artistic practice too, as we chat about how Middle Eastern objects come to be in western museums, and what it means for their histories once they're ...

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August 21, 2020 58 mins

Bog bodies. Skeletons. Mummifying Alan. 

Kat Baxter, Curator of Archaeology at Leeds Museums & Galleries, answers all of our (many) burning questions about human remains and the ethics of collecting and displaying them in museums.

We ask why some bodies are better preserved than others, and find out the kind of reactions visitors have to different types of human remains. We also discover why bog chemistry can...

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September 4, 2020 44 mins

Could The Meg literally happen? How do you give a polar bear a wash and blow dry? Does Danny from DPD know how regularly he features on everyone’s favourite lowbrow museum based podcast?

We’re saying a firm ‘see ya’ to series 2 with curator Clare Brown, who explains how animals come to be in our natural science collection, and why dealing with the histories behind some of our collections can be so complex (see also: decolonisation)....

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December 21, 2020 60 mins

Ho, ho - we can't stress this enough - ho.

We're back with an extra special Christmas episode with Kitty Ross, Curator of Social History.

Who was St. Nick? What did Charles Dickens think of our Leeds? What's your favourite Wet Wet Wet song? Kitty answers all of your burning festive questions (and then some).

Before you panic: Danny from DPD does get a mention.

Listen, subscribe and...

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May 7, 2021 1 min

Lovely news! We've been chinwagging our way around the UK (is chinwagging a word?) and now we're back in the greatest city in the world ready to release our third series.

This time around, we ask museum smartypants the truly important questions about topics like Shakespeare, Magna Carta, vaccinations, Florence Nightingale, museums & Wikipedia and clothing from the 1700s.

We're talking snog marry...

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May 21, 2021 47 mins

Would you snog Othello? We've always asked the truly important questions, and this series will be no different.

We're back! We've got wonderful guests! We're still on zoom and we still hate it! For this first episode of series 3, Meg and Sara chat to Anjna Chouhan off of the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust, who has 2 - 2! - of her own podcasts: Shakespeare Alive and Shakespeare's Pants.


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Magna Carta! Jay Z's 12th studio album and  the medieval cornerstone of modern democracy.

In this episode, we discuss both with Digital Engagement Officer Steven Franklin off of Egham Museum, Bradford Museums & Galleries and now the National Archives. Find out from someone other than Terry Jones why King John was so big and so bad, and why him needing a poo meant bad news for his Crown Jewels.

We also co...

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In this uncharacteristically relevant episode, Meg and Sara talk to lovely Owen Gower from Dr. Jenner's House, off of the birthplace of vaccinations.

We find out about Blossom the cow and her 20 horns, ghost stories from inside the house and the naughty vicar's wife who stole a plant from the Pope. Oh, and all about vaccinations (lancets, people!), Edward Jenner and what it's like to work at the house of one...

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