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Now, let's get into the mysterious case of Jennifer Lee Martin.
On June 28th of 1987, Jennifer Lee Martin went missing from Reno, Nevada.
She was just 11 years old at the time of her disappearance, and the details surrounding
her case remain a mystery to this day.
So today we're going to be talking about the details surrounding her disappearance, the
efforts made to search for her, and the impact her case had on her family and the community.
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We're also going to discuss some theories about what might have happened to her since
she went missing over three decades ago.
It's a long time.
Yeah.
So Jennifer was born on January 14th of 1976 to her parents, Wesley and Betty Martin.
Married for 22 years, Wesley and Betty relocated to Reno, Nevada in 1986 from Clearwater, Florida.
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Wesley and Betty had two other kids at the time, Jennifer's older sister Colleen and
older brother Charles.
At the time of her disappearance, the Martin family was living in a mobile home park in
an area of Reno known as Lemon Valley.
Lemon Valley is a neighborhood in northern Washoe County.
It's located at the southern end of Mount Rose Highway and the northern end of the Pyramid
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Highway.
It's primarily made up of hilly and mountainous terrain, and it's located in the Sierra Nevada
Mountain Range.
It contains a lot of rolling hills, canyons, and desert landscape, most of which is covered
in sagebrush.
Lemon Valley also has some streams and creeks, but those water sources, they kind of tend
to dry up during the region's drier seasons.
So if you can imagine, it's real hot.
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You know, it's essentially the desert of Nevada.
But the neighborhood in Lemon Valley consists of mobile home parks and single family homes
on large lots, so there's a lot of open space there.
The mobile home park where the Martins lived was located on West Surge Street near Lemon
Drive, which is just north of Highway 395.
It's super close to a pretty busy highway.
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In 1987, the mobile home park contained anywhere from, I would say, 40 to 60 mobile homes,
and it was situated very close to a 7-Eleven convenience store.
So on June 28th at about 3 p.m., Jennifer left her house with no shoes, wearing a grayish-purple
sweater dress.
Jennifer was headed to the 7-Eleven to get soda, but she never made it home.
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I guess it was close enough that she felt comfortable walking there with no shoes.
I would think it would be hot.
It's Nevada in June.
I think it's really hot there.
You'd think her feet would burn.
Well, the interesting thing about where they live, it's super close.
On the map, it's like literally... I mean, you could see the 7-Eleven from her backyard.
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It's just a left out of the house and a left on the main road there, and you're at the
7-Eleven.
All of that trailer park area, including the road, which Jennifer would have traveled to
the 7-Eleven, it's all dirt.
It's probably not as hot on her feet as it would be if you're walking on asphalt, which
I think is very important in this case to remember.
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It's really interesting that an 11-year-old girl would come missing so close to home.
Yeah, that's really close.
That had to be either a very opportunistic person, if she was abducted, to happen upon
her short walk between her house and the 7-Eleven, or somebody watching her, perhaps.
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Right.
I can't help but wonder if she was abducted by someone so close to the house, because
again, even though you have this vast area of desert landscape, she's not going to be
traveling into this wilderness with no shoes on.
Right.
She probably has a goal.
She's going straight to 7-Eleven, getting a soda, and coming home.
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It sounds like maybe this is a regular thing for her.
Exactly.
Yeah.
About 20 minutes passed, and with no signs of Jennifer, her brother headed over to the
7-Eleven to look for his sister, but Jennifer was nowhere to be found.
It's only about a 20-minute time span as well.
Not only was she really close to her house, it all happened pretty quickly.
Very quickly, yeah.
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According to the 7-Eleven store clerk, Jennifer made it to the convenience store.
She purchased a six-pack of Coke and a candy bar, and then she left.
In fact, the store clerk turned out to be a credible witness because she knew Jennifer
as a regular customer.
It wasn't uncommon for Jennifer to walk to the 7-Eleven for snacks and drinks because
she lived just a stone's throw away.
I mean, it's basically right in her backyard.
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Yeah.
She's on summer break at this point, so she's probably making this trip regularly.
Yeah, regularly.
I mean, I think as a parent, if I had a 7-Eleven that was less than a block away, I would feel
comfortable letting my 11-year-old go there alone.
I mean, I guess as a parent, you just think, well, what could happen?
She's right here.
Right.
It's not like she's traveling miles.
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Exactly.
More witnesses came forward saying they saw Jennifer at the entrance to the trailer park
carrying a sack, which I think is a clear indication that she was seen by these witnesses
after leaving the 7-Eleven store.
Not only that, but I also think one of the theories is that she may have ventured off
into the desert and got lost or something nefarious happened to her in the wilderness.
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But, I really don't see that happening with her again being barefoot and now she's carrying
a six pack of soda.
Right.
And, you know, within 20 minutes, her brother goes looking for her.
So if she's on foot, I would imagine he would have been able to locate her if she's just
walking around somewhere out there.
But based on witness statements, seeing her at the entrance to the neighborhood with that
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sack, you know, indicating that she probably was on her way back from the 7-Eleven, that
takes that time span and actually narrows it even further.
Right.
Because, you know, she's now, she's already taken part of that 20 minutes has already
been spent with her going to the store, picking up her purchases, paying for them and leaving.
And she's almost all the way back home at this point.
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So whatever happened to her, it happened pretty quickly, I would imagine, before her brother
started looking for her.
Yeah, I would agree with you and the information in this case is extremely limited, making
it a very difficult task for police to locate Jennifer.
But it wasn't for lack of trying.
In the initial stages of the investigation, police conducted extensive searches in the
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area surrounding Jennifer's home, as well as nearby areas of the desert.
They searched vacant homes, garages, and other locations that could possibly be used as a
like a temporary shelter or hiding place, but they never found anything.
The police also followed up on numerous tips and leads provided by the public.
One of the most promising leads police followed included a search warrant executed at the
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home of a convicted sex offender.
So after hearing about Jennifer's disappearance, three women came forward and reported a really
strange encounter they had with a man on the same day that Jennifer was reported missing.
So remember, Jennifer was last seen around three o'clock p.m. by the store clerk, right?
So according to these women, at about two thirty p.m., a man pulled up beside them in
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a pickup truck and stared at them as they drove into a warehouse market.
The women reported that the man followed them to three different parking places and even
reached for the door of their car.
When the driver of the car pushed the button to lock the car, you know, back then it was
pretty new, the electronic locks.
Yeah, not every car had them, but this car did.
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And so she hit the electronic locks or the electric locks to lock the car.
And the man drove away.
So was that in that same area then as the 7-Eleven in the neighborhood?
You know, I wasn't able to find out exactly where that happened.
I mean, it is definitely in the same vicinity because it was, you know, definitely worth
noting in this investigation.
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But it wasn't in the 7-Eleven parking lot by any means.
So after hearing about Jennifer's disappearance, two of the women came forward and reported
their strange encounter.
Police showed them a series of photographs of registered sex offenders and both of these
women positively identified one of them stating that, hey, this is the man that was harassing
us.
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As you can imagine, this is not enough information for police to get a search warrant for this
person's house related to Jennifer's case.
Well, I mean, yeah, it rises to the level of reasonable suspicion maybe, right?
Like, hey, this is in the same area around the same time that Jennifer goes missing.
But yeah, there's nothing directly tying this person to Jennifer.
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So yeah, I wouldn't imagine that that would rise to the level of the probable cause needed
to get a warrant at this point.
Yeah, it is important to mention that for people that may not know, police can't just
get a warrant because they think that something might be connected, right?
I mean, what you're talking about is reasonable suspicion.
It's a much lower burden of proof than probable cause, which means, hey, I have facts and
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information to support why I'm searching a specific location and I have facts and information
to support a very reasonable belief that the item I'm searching for is going to be in that
location.
Again, some people struggle, even new police officers, I think, sometimes struggle with
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what is the difference between reasonable suspicion, probable cause.
And we have a whole bunch of burdens of proof, right?
I mean, at the lowest level, you have preponderance of evidence, which means it more than likely
happen, more likely than not.
Then you have reasonable suspicion and probable cause and proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
And it all becomes very confusing for people who aren't in this world of law enforcement
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or law.
So I think you have a very good example on how to kind of differentiate and how to really
kind of dumb it down for somebody that might not know what the difference is or has even
heard of this.
So I like to use the example of you see smoke maybe above the tree line.
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So reasonable suspicion would tell you that, okay, there's a fire somewhere.
I see the smoke.
So you get closer and you actually see now you see flames coming above that tree line.
You know that that area is in a neighborhood.
So now seeing the flames, knowing that there's homes there, you have your probable cause
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to say, okay, there's a home, at least one home on fire.
That's your probable cause.
And then you get closer and you see, yes, there are several homes actually engulfed
in flames.
And that's your observation, right?
You're seeing it.
That's beyond a reasonable doubt.
You know there are homes on fire at that point.
Yeah, that's a really good analogy.
And when we apply that to criminal law, you know, in this case, you have two women that
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say, hey, here's this creepy guy that was, you know, staring at us tried to get into
our car or whatever.
Not enough for a search warrant, right?
All that is is like, wow, that's a really weird coincidence to Jennifer's disappearance.
And then you have these women saying, oh, no, they both independently identify him based
on a sex offender lineup or, you know, photographs that they were shown.
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So if we take it a step further here, what happened is after they gave their statements,
they provided a description of the suspect's truck and police learned that the person who
they identified in the photos owned a truck that matched the description.
So we're getting closer to that probable cause threshold where they can get a warrant, but
I don't think we're still there yet because how do you connect it to Jennifer's disappearance
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or anything related to 7-Eleven or the area or anything to say, hey, this guy might or
most likely more likely has something to do with it.
Right.
I think if you had more information and you had, say, maybe the store clerk or another
independent witness that says, hey, I saw this truck outside when Jennifer left the
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store and then they, they say, okay, that truck matches the description.
I think then you're probably where you need to be for a warrant at that point.
Well, that's sort of what happened.
So in addition to what was reported by these women, another independent witness came forward
and reported seeing a pickup truck with the same description of that of the sex offenders
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truck on the dirt road near the 7-Eleven between 1pm and 3pm on the day Jennifer disappeared.
Now we have two independent, three independent witnesses now, right?
Two of which are saying, hey, there's this creepy guy at the store who tried to get into
our car.
Have identified him as a known sex offender.
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They said the description of his truck actually matches the description of the same truck
that that person owns.
And now you have a third independent witness saying, Hey, there is a truck here and gives
the same description given by the women.
So now police are getting that probable cause.
They need to execute the warrant.
So the witness reported that the driver of the truck left the area so fast that the wheels
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threw rocks in the air.
The witness reportedly followed the truck to a shopping center and then to the lumber
pine apartments before losing sight of it.
So not only does he see the truck that matches the description of the other one that we talked
about, but this is seen leaving the scene at a high rate of speed.
Now we have probable cause to believe, Hey, this truck is involved.
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We need to act fast and execute the search warrant, which is what they did.
Police searched the man's home and processed the man's truck at a crime lab.
However, despite their efforts, the man was never charged or arrested and the search warrant
didn't provide any clues to help police locate Jennifer.
Though the sex offender in this case has not been publicly identified, police said he was
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once convicted of indecent exposure in Reno and had various sex offenses in California.
Even though this lead yielded no information to locate Jennifer, detectives continued to
diligently work on her case.
Detectives contacted past friends of the family looking for potential suspects.
They combed through the records of parole and probation offenders with past sex offenses
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living in the area.
And they even went through the family's call log records, hoping to find any information
to lead them to even a phone call that might give them a clue about Jennifer's whereabouts.
Detectives continue to follow up on leads that poured in across the country, but nothing
ever panned out to help locate Jennifer.
Police followed up on anonymous tips about a grave site near the Martin's home, which
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I thought was really interesting.
So police were able to locate this grave site and process the scene only to discover that
the grave site contained several pornographic magazines.
There were also other items found, such as beer bottles littered around the grave.
It was initially assumed that the grave was dug to bury a dog, but the presence of the
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magazines and the other items led the investigators to believe that it might have once been used
for another reason, but still, nothing led to the discovery of Jennifer.
It's weird though, isn't it?
Yeah, it's really weird.
So one law enforcement officer deeply involved in this case is Sergeant Dixon, who was the
lead investigator in another missing child case from 1983.
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In that case, 10-year-old Anthony Franco was last seen walking to his school in the early
morning hours of May 8th in Lemon Valley.
At the time of his disappearance, Tony lived with his mother and his stepfather only about
a half a mile away from his school, which coincidentally is the same school that Jennifer
was to attend.
Hmm, interesting.
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Okay.
Although there is no evidence or information linking the two of these cases together, both
cases have striking similarities.
Tony was only 10 years old at the time of his disappearance and Jennifer was 11.
Both children were missing less than five years apart from the same area of Lemon Valley
in Reno.
That's interesting.
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I wonder if the sex offender that they executed the search warrant on was living in the area
at the time that Tony went missing.
That's a really curious thought.
I had thought about that, but of course I have no way of verifying that, but I bet you
anything the police pondered that question.
I'm sure, yeah.
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So like Jennifer's case, police received countless tips from various states across the country,
but nothing ever brought any results in Tony's case.
And actually we're going to do Tony's case next week on Mystery Monday, because it also
is very interesting and there are some similarities here that we can discuss.
So the most recently explored by police in Jennifer's case is that of an ex-priest by
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the name of Stephen Keisel, who was convicted of sexually abusing multiple children in the
70s and 80s.
In 2002, police executed a search warrant at Keisel's home in Truckee, California, searching
for another different missing child by the name of Amber Schwartz Garcia.
Apparently Amber lived only 14 houses away from Keisel when she was reported missing.
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So I really don't know that they had any information from Jennifer's case or even Tony's case for
that matter to support the warrant that they executed at Stephen's house, or if they were
just hopeful that they were going to find Amber and also these other two children, Jennifer
and Tony.
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But that was the latest development in this case.
So that was in 2002.
And I guess they didn't find anything?
No, they didn't find anything.
All three of the cases are still unsolved, Tony's, Amber's, and Jennifer's.
Amber actually was missing from California.
She wasn't missing from Reno, but it is still in pretty close proximity to each other.
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You know, the geographical region of the United States, so to speak.
So Jennifer's disappearance has left a lasting impact on her family and her community.
Her absence is deeply felt and her loved ones continue to live with the unknown.
Not only did Jennifer's disappearance affect her family members, but it took a toll on
the community.
Many people still today even, including her family, they continue to hold out hope that
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Jennifer will be found alive and well.
So today, Jennifer's sister Colleen refuses to give up hope that she will be reunited
with Jennifer.
There's no doubt in Colleen's mind that Jennifer is still alive today.
In fact, Colleen still lives at the same house by that 7-Eleven.
And she still keeps the same phone number from 1987, just in case it's the only thing
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that Jennifer has been holding on to all these years.
Isn't that wild?
That is.
I think that says a lot, right, about the impact that these types of cases have on the
family, right?
And her sister holds out so much hope that her sister is still alive that she hasn't
even moved from her childhood home in what, three decades?
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Over three decades?
Yeah, over three decades.
Yeah.
I think when we think about these cases, we have the immediate victim who is Jennifer,
right?
But then you have her family and then that ripple effect that we talk about, it just
goes beyond that into the entire community.
Especially if it's a small, tight-knit community like this one sounds like it kind of is in
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that general area, the Lemon Valley.
Cases like these stick with people for years to come.
And so I think it's just important to remember the impact that we have every day on people,
right?
Whether it's positive or negative.
And just the extreme negative impacts that somebody's choice to abduct a child has forever.
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It's never going to end, right?
That family, even if they find out what happened to Jennifer, whether she's still alive, which
of course is what we hope, but even if she's not and they find out what happened to her
and they can put her to rest or whatever that looks like for them, there's no closure there.
Maybe they find whatever it was they're looking for to move forward from it, but it's always
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going to impact them forever.
And their children and their children's children, it goes on for generations.
Yeah, actually I saw something on the internet.
I can't remember where I saw it now, but even Colleen has a daughter, apparently, that looks
really closely to that of Jennifer.
And she was talking about how earlier on in this event, how she'd be at the grocery store
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and people would come up and tell her daughter, your mother has been looking for you because
she just looked so closely to that of Jennifer.
And that's just got to be very impactful for the family as well.
But just to hold on hope and just to say, because certainly Colleen could move anywhere.
She can go anywhere that she wants, but she chooses to stay in that house because she
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chooses to not let go of what she remembers from 1987.
Yeah, and that's a lifelong thing for her.
And not only does she choose to stay there in hopes that her sister will remember, okay,
that was my house.
This is my phone number.
But she chooses to live every day in that town where people recognize that her daughter
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looks like her sister.
That's reliving that trauma every time someone says that.
They don't obviously probably mean to do that, but that has to be traumatic for her every
time she has to hear that because it just brings her back to that place of, you know,
oh, my sister's gone.
She's been gone for over three decades and I don't know where she's at or what's happened
to her.
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So it kind of has to reopen that every time.
But she chooses to stay there just in case.
Yeah, I could see it going either way too.
I mean, either it's traumatic to open those wounds when her daughter reminds her of her
sister or it could also be therapeutic in such a sense that she feels as though she
has a piece of her sister still with her in the form of her daughter.
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That's true.
So I guess it's really all about your perspective and how you handle grief and how you handle
trauma.
That's why when we talk about grief and trauma, it's always important to remember that everybody
handles it differently, right?
It's so individualized.
What might be traumatic for one person doesn't necessarily mean that it is for another and
vice versa.
That's a good lesson.
Yeah, thank you for pointing that out.
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So at the time of her disappearance, Jennifer was 11 years old.
She had brown hair and blue eyes.
Jennifer had freckles on her face.
She had two small hairline scars on the underside of her chin and a star shaped scar on the
inside of her upper right arm.
Jennifer also had several white bumps on her back and a coffee stain style birthmark on
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her upper right hip.
Jennifer's ears were also pierced.
So it's important because you might know somebody, I mean, because it's very likely that she's
still alive today.
I mean, we had that one case that was so popular.
J.C.
Dugard.
J.C.
Dugard, where she lived with her captor for decades.
Yes.
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And it is entirely possible for that to be the case with Jennifer.
And so it might even be, you know, it could be somebody who knows someone who has these
characteristics.
It could be somebody that sees these characteristics in themself, like that star shaped scar, you
know.
So if you have any information, you know, it would be important to pass that along.
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So if someone is listening and wants to provide information, who can they call?
If you have any information about Jennifer Martin's disappearance or her whereabouts,
you're encouraged to contact the Washoe County Sheriff's Office.
And that number is 775-328-3001.
Or if you wish to remain anonymous, you can reach out to us by emailing us at mysteriesandmimosasatgmail.com
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or you can send us a chat through our website, mysteriesandmimosas.net.
All right.
Before we move on and close this thing out, I just have one question.
Like, who buries porn magazines in the desert?
Right.
And why did it get reported as a grave?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, maybe somebody saw freshly dug up earth and so they thought, oh, it looks
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like a grave site.
So I can maybe understand that.
But if you need to get rid of your pornographic magazines because like you're going to get
in trouble or something, why not just go dump them in a trash somewhere or I don't know.
But why are you going to dig a hole and bury them in the desert?
That's weird.
Yeah, it is very weird.
And you know, this is 1987.
So it's not like people had internet.
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You know, nowadays everybody has those images at the tips of their fingers.
You know, they could just clear their browsing history.
I mean, that's basically like the 2024 version of a porn grave.
So I guess it makes sense that you would want to destroy your porn magazines so that, you
know, probably mom didn't catch you with them or something in your bedroom.
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I don't know.
Yeah, but go dump them in a dumpster and like an alley or something.
Don't I don't know.
I, I, it's, there's a 7-Eleven right there.
Throw them in the trash.
Exactly.
I mean, I, I, again, I have no idea.
I've never had to hide my porn magazines.
So I don't know.
Do you have porn magazines?
No.
What do you say?
You've never had to hide your porn magazines.
Well, I've never had to hide porn magazines is what I meant.
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Oh, okay.
Cause I was just making sure that we're on the same page.
Should I be looking somewhere in the house for these magazines?
No.
No.
Okay.
Have you seen any freshly dug up earth in the backyard though?
I'll go look for the porn.
Okay.
That's fair.
Okay.
Um, okay.
Anyway, not to make light of the situation, but you know, what a weirdo.
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Yeah, that's weird.
Stop burying your porn.
Like throw it away like a normal human being.
Right.
Be normal.
Just go throw it in a dumpster.
It's fine.
I'm just going to add a fictitious element to this.
I'm just going to like say, please learn that the porn magazines were stolen from the 7-Eleven.
Okay.
That didn't, no, that didn't happen.
Totally kidding.
This sounded good though, right?
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It did.
Yeah.
So it could be another mystery Monday case.
The porn, the mystery, the mysterious porn grave.
Yeah.
The pornographic magazines.
I think we'll go ahead and table that idea.
But getting back to the seriousness of everything here, if you have any information, please
say something.
If you see something, say something.
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Cause together we can bring closure to Jennifer's case and support the Martin family in their
search for answers.
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In the meantime, join us as we raise our glasses to Jennifer Lee Martin.
Cheers.
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