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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You and I are told
increasingly we have to choose
between a left or right.
Well, I'd like to suggest thereis no such thing as a left or
right.
There's only an up or down.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is the no Doubt
About it.
Podcast.
No doubt about it Now yourhosts Christy and Mark Runcany.
Wildfire, you can't get us out.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Running, running,
running dead.
I'm here, allany Blustery day.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Blustery day and we
are a day late.
Sorry about that.
We were out of town.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yeah, we actually
took a little break, which I'm
not sure you should apologizefor, in all honesty.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, but you like to
be on time.
We like to know.
I know you can depend on thefact that we'll put these things
out late Sunday and then lateWednesday, but this week will be
a little off and then Ava and Ihave to leave town over the
weekend.
So that's going to be.
Our schedule's going to be alittle thrown here for about the
next week or so, but we'llstill get some stuff out there
for you.
Yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
More college visits.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, we're headed
for a college visit.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I know, and here's
the bummer for you yeah.
I just found out today.
I forgot that you, we springforward on Saturday and your
flight Sunday morning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sunday, you spring
forward, you don't spring
forward.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Well, whatever, you
put it on your clock, you assume
when you go to bed on Saturdaynight, guy, yeah, you're going
to wake up an hour earlier onSunday.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I know to tell you
that I well.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
we booked you on a 5
am flight so it's really 4 am,
so we're flying into chicago, ohyeah.
And then then I believe we havelike a layover, don't we?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
that's we have a
layover that's like eight out,
we're gonna actually leave theairport.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm pretty certain,
because I well, I'm not gonna
sit in the airport for eighthours yeah, we're gonna go like
I don't think it's, I don'tthink it's eight hours, you guys
, so so just be careful.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
It's pretty long.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It's a hefty layover
and it's Chicago.
I know you love Chicago.
You love Chicago, which isgreat.
It's super fun.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Okay, then take a
carry-on.
That's all I got to say.
Yeah, no, believe me, we're not, I don't want to hear okay, I'm
hoping I'm the fact that I'veput you in charge of this one.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, I hope that I
haven't.
Oh, like I can't handle myself.
Like Ava and I are like I don'tknow where we are.
We're somewhere in Pennsylvania.
I don't know what happened here.
Oh, come on, we'll figure itout.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I'm just giving you a
hard time.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
You could just do
this whole thing by yourself,
ava.
Let's be honest, I could.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
I've flown by myself
and you know what.
They could ask me to fly theplane.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh well, they might
need you soon enough because I
don't know what's happening.
Or they might want you to workin air traffic control.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm not really sure,
I don't know which one it's
going to be, it's a little scaryout there.
Yeah, which one are you morescared of Cause you hit a bird,
or turbulence or something else?
Or you're more concerned withgetting clipped by another plane
on the runway or hitting themas you land?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
What, apparently, I
think I have more fear of,
whatever the landing situationseems to be, that everybody on
the ground, yeah, and really Ithink what the situation is, at
least that we keep hearing, areplanes that have nothing like
not commercial airline flights.
Speaker 7 (03:02):
Yeah, like private
jets.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Private, apparently
military, I mean we've got all
kinds of things.
So just it's not really twocommercial airlines that seem to
be having the difficulty, atleast that we've heard so far.
So let's just hope that thishas all gotten behind us.
Yeah, and it's all into likenew safe territory.
Everybody's paying attention,everybody's listening to the
people in the air trafficcontrol.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Let's hope so.
No, I know it's tough and theone that happened last week when
we talked about on the show theSouthwest flight, which had
pilots that were paying closeattention and ended up kind of
doing like a touch and go yeahthey.
This all happened in at Midwayin Chicago and that's what we're
flying into.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay, well, here's
what I want you guys to do.
First of all, make sure youknow when you're supposed to
leave again.
Okay, yeah, keep that in mind,because you have to do.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I was planning on
guessing.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Okay, because you got
security again.
Guys, you leave.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You got to do
security all over again.
We're aware of how airportswork and then take pictures for
us all.
Then you guys can talk about iton the show.
Okay, see what we can do.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
All right Day trip.
Three hours of sleep.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's too bad.
There's not like a Cubs game orsomething.
We could check that out thatsounds miserable.
That is not Ava's cup of tea.
It's better than sitting in theairport.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Calm down, no she'll
drag you to a museum, which is
what I did with her in.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Chicago.
Those are pretty cool.
Possibility, possibility.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Okay, so we did leave
.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I'm sorry we didn't
have a show.
earlier than today snow was alittle sparse, but you can see
like there's no snow on theground but there is snow on the
mountains yeah, red River does agreat job of making snow, so
they are the best in the statewhen it comes to just volume of
making snow.
So if there's ever a bad snowyear, red River is the place you
want to go, because they makethe most snow and they do a
really good job at it.
(04:40):
Walt Foley runs the mountain upthere and the Dickey family own
own Red River.
They do a really nice job.
So with having no snow, it wasactually good.
The snow quality was good withwhat we had.
The girls enjoyed it.
It was fun.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, I'm so glad you
guys got up there.
I have an injury so I haven'tbeen able to ski this year, but
we did, however, get you to do alittle country dancing.
Me and my friend Terry tookMark to hear a live band on
Saturday night and I can'tbelieve it, cause he I mean, how
much do you hate dancing?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's tough.
I mean it is.
I'm just, I just, I have norhythm, I don't hear things like
other people do and I'm notable to do the one two, one, one
, two, one, like I don'tunderstand what you're talking
about.
It was so hard.
And then like, like, you'resupposed to do this two-step
right and then you're supposedto circle around in this weird
kind of situation and I don'tunderstand how the two are
(05:27):
linked and I'm unable to figureit out.
And you're very good at it, butby the end christy was
literally on my shoulder,grabbing my shirt like this,
moving me around the dance floor, and so it didn't go well well,
I've been known as being a lead, a leader oh, you're a leader,
all right um, which is something?
Speaker 4 (05:42):
fight against a lot,
cause I'd have guys that really
could lead and they're likeplease, stop leading.
And so I'm like I'm so sorry,I'm so sorry With you.
It's kind of necessary, but Ihate, I give you full props
because you're superuncomfortable on the dance floor
.
You hate it, and it's not likewe're just going out there doing
a little of this.
Yeah, we're not doing any ofthat Right the cha-cha I'm just
talking about, like the 1980s,like you, just kind of well
(06:03):
there was.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There was some ACDC
that went down, and that's I.
The problem was they were bothequally humiliating, right?
So so you do like the two-stepand I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm off, I'm stepping on yourfeet, I'm running into other
guys like sorry guy, you know,or whatever, and then they play
like Invaders or something likethat.
I can't figure it out.
(06:24):
I don't know.
I'm doing the lawnmower.
I look like an idiot and you'reloving it and you're out there,
like you know, and you just.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
We made friends.
We made a lot of friends withall the ladies out there Very
nice, I had a great time.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, the Motherlode.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, the Motherlode,
and it came out of Colorado.
Yes, anyway, I appreciate thefact that you tried.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Thank you sweetheart.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
It only took 18 years
, but we got him there.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
It did Every 18 years
.
I'll go dancing.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Okay, a couple of
comments and then we're going to
dive into the show, okay, okay.
The first one comes here fromTravis D.
Okay, this was on Twitteractually.
Okay, this was after a littlebit of on Twitter regarding just
you running things of thatnature, right, and it said Mark
is a good guy, but his wifeprobably needs to run.
(07:09):
She's smart and, I think,politically ruthless.
We need that in New Mexico.
And I told Travis I'm likeTravis, I'm putting this one on.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah, that is funny.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Because I mean I
can't even get a poll.
Nobody will even pull me, Ijust you know.
I ask him.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hey, should we pull
me?
Speaker 4 (07:29):
There's other people
that are females, the spouses of
other leaders we're going totalk about later on and I'm like
, hey, you guys think you shoulddo a poll on me?
And Mark's like, no, I'm notgoing to do that, it's not going
to happen.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So, yeah, I may be
ruthless on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
It does not.
Uh, that doesn't necessarilytransition into me being a good
electoral leader.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I think the
thing is.
I would just lay out yourpolitical philosophy in just a
couple of short words.
Christy believes in ready fire,aim, and so when that's the
situation, while sometimes thatcomes off as fiery and willing
to take a stand, other times youend up out over your skis and
things get a little shaky.
(08:04):
And so again, I think you're auh, a political fireball.
I think I enjoy it.
It's part of the reason I loveyou.
But, uh, let's just save thestate of New Mexico from from
the person who just puts theclip in and starts unloading and
then figures out what happensafter.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I used to probably do
that Okay when the campaign
team used to say hey, listen,that is actually not what I do.
I used to probably do that, oh,okay.
When the campaign team used tosay hey, listen, Christy, you
got to get off X because you'relike maybe making things worse
for Mark, okay, which is, youknow, guilty Guilty.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Well then you're like
, oh, I thought that was true,
and I'm like, no, it's not true.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
And you're like, oh
yeah, Guilty of that.
Why do I look like?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
it.
It's a relative stance, so inother words, oh, I am your
biggest defender.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Oh, no, I understand.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And you just don't
need to be, just don't even
respond to anybody.
I know who cares, I don't.
I don't read them.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
I know you don't I do
, though.
I just I feel like the.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And there are so many
nice educate on X a lot of us
do Right, right, right.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
So just, but don't
worry, don't worry, travis, I
won't go out there and likethrow my hat in the ring anytime
soon.
Okay, this next message cameout from Jeff Jenkins.
Okay, he says this one actuallycame in via email.
Thanks for the great team, ron.
Kitty Podcast one I follow.
I thought I had your programoutline figured out.
Number one you guys start withhumorous discussion of each
other's clothing, thencommentary on US matters,
(09:28):
commentary on New Mexico mattersand then a funny or sad human
interest video or discussion.
But you threw me off bydiscussing your clothing at the
end instead of the beginning ofthe last show.
The world has not seemed thesame since.
Also, great video of the deerand skier in Red River.
The closest I've ever come tois seeing coyotes licking their
lips as I skied past.
Finally, my wife isn't intopolitics but she says she would
(09:48):
listen to if there were regularweather reports.
Thanks, again.
Jeff, thank you so much.
It was humorous, it made uslaugh, I mean it was funny, yeah
, because it is.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I mean, he basically
broke us down.
Yeah, no, he's exactly right.
That is pretty much how we laythese shows out, and it's very,
very true.
And this particular show, it'sgoing to be somewhat similar.
We're going to juggle it around, we're going to start local.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And then we're going
to.
We're mixing it up, jeff, weare mixing it up, except that I
do have to make a comment aboutMark's hat because there's a
bevers.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So this is.
There's a reason I'm wearing thebeaver hat today because I'd
like to pay tribute to all ourfriends up in Santa Fe and the
legislature.
Those guys are doing yeoman'swork up there, spending your
money.
I'll tell you what they arebreaking brand new ground.
So, yeah, so, apparently, uh,there's a group out that is is
pushing back on another taxincrease that they're trying to
pass in Santa Fe.
(10:42):
Remember, we've got a $3billion surplus.
Are we getting any tax cuts forworking families?
No, nobody's getting anything.
Nobody's getting a dime back.
But the state of New Mexico hasmore money than they know what
to do with, and so they're goingto try to raise about another
$450 million a year in raisingenergy prices.
Okay, it's crazy.
So.
So we watched this ad fromdefend New Mexico, and then,
(11:04):
once I heard the ad, I'm like Ihave a beaver hat, so therefore
I have to wear the hat.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Ok, let's start with
the ad State tax coffers are
overflowing the largest budgetin state history.
Legislators have money to wasteMillions for illegal immigrants
, even three point five millionfor beavers.
But that's not enough.
Now some politicians want toraise energy taxes by nearly
half a billion dollars.
That will raise prices hurtingfamilies.
(11:30):
Call your legislator.
Oppose House Bill 548.
If they have millions to wasteon beavers, they don't need to
raise our taxes Paid for byDefend New Mexico, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Okay, wow.
So we are allocating three anda half million dollars for
beavers what like?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
hopefully it's
removing them from property.
No, I think it's so much damageI think it's the other way
around.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh, we're protecting
the beavers, I think we're
adding, I think we are adding,trying to add beaver habitat.
Oh and so, but I don't know.
I haven't dug deep into thebeaver situation it's ridiculous
, well look I'm a well-knownopponent of what beavers can do
to your property.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
That goes way back
for us for decades to be honest
with you.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But the fact of the
matter is that they're trying to
raise taxes on energy, right,and at a time when we have so
much extra money and yet we havemoney to hand out to beavers
and we can't give families taxcuts.
And also it's ludicrous, it'salmost comical.
Like you see the little beaverlike, like you're like, is this
a joke?
And it's not a joke, it's in.
(12:31):
So they're trying to pass housebill five, 48.
And so you can call yourlegislator and say wait a minute
, don't do this, because whathappens to those additional
taxes?
They can end up getting passeddown to all of us at a time when
nobody is getting a break andprices are not going down.
We have an economy in troubleand we're going to talk about
that in a second here.
So there were real problemshere.
(12:53):
But you have a state governmentthat is incredibly wealthy and
is trying, at every opportunitythey get, to claw back as much
money as they can fromindustries that literally keep
the state afloat and thatultimately gets passed down to
the people.
And yet, once again, you havethese legislators who either are
clueless or, even more so, theyjust want to punish the people
(13:16):
of this state for whateverreason.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Well, yeah, I would
love to see them spend some time
.
Just, you know, even the familypaid leave bill, there's all
these bills that are basically,if you really look at them,
they're just a tax.
They're just going to beanother tax on the people.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
On small business
especially.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, and you know, I
was talking to a business owner
actually up in Red River andthey said that will crush them,
that alone will crush them, thatthey can't afford all that.
You add that to the minimumwage hike that they're looking
at passing as well.
I mean, it's just it's.
I just feel like can you usesome time when you're up there
(13:52):
to help save people money andput money back in people's
pockets?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
versus the opposite.
Well, it is important toremember too, especially if you
work a normal job or you get apaycheck, you think to yourself
you know, in the minimum wage isone of those things that for
small business owners can bedifficult, because it just makes
it so that you can employ fewerpeople at a higher salary.
So there are big arguments tothat.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
And they have to
raise their prices on their
basic In a lot of cases, right,and so that makes that harder,
right.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And then the paid
family leaves another one of
those taxes you have to pay.
That as a small business owner.
That's where you get into areally tough spot, because
Because if you're in a, if youown a big business, and it's and
it's a big a lot of times youcan swallow that stuff up, but
it's the mom and pop businessthat has three or four employees
that make up New Mexico.
It's the backbone of New Mexico.
It is right.
I mean it is that we are a smallbusiness state and so because
(14:38):
of that, when you start juststacking things on business
owners saying you got to do thisand then you've got to do this
and then you've got to do this,and eventually that weight on a
small business owner iscrushingly heavy.
It's so much heavier in NewMexico than it is in any other
state around us that we wonderwhy we lose so many small
business owners, so many doctors, so many dentists.
(14:58):
We lose so many differentpeople in so many different
lines of work because we makedoing their job more difficult.
And I understand the logic ofsaying, well, we want to provide
this and we want to providethat.
Well, then stop relying on thesame people all the time that
you keep crushing with theseregulations, and then put money
back in their pocket, likeyou're saying, and make it
easier for them.
Because if you make it easierfor a small business to expand
(15:21):
their business and employ morepeople and give them more money,
they will because theirbusiness will grow to do it.
But the business has to growfirst.
The regulations can't growbefore the business and
unfortunately we put regulatorsahead of business owners and the
result is crushing.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, and don't even
get me started on the GRT taxes
as a small business, that'sanother one.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That's another one.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
It's devastating it
just keeps getting devastating
Okay, so get involved.
If you guys want to know what'sgoing on and you want to have a
voice.
Why?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
don't you tell people
what they should do, especially
with the bill you just talkedabout.
Well, if five, 48 is one Iwould look at, and then another
one which is a bill right now,again misguided in the respect
that we need to be fightingcrime right now.
And another one of these bills,I believe, is Senate bill 279,
which is a bill which basicallywould ban many handguns that
especially women use forself-defense.
Like that would be banned andwhat's going on would be a huge
(16:10):
gun ban, which is like we allwant things to be safer.
Go after the criminals, stopgoing after law abiding citizens
, stop doing it.
By the way, it'sunconstitutional anyway and will
likely be thrown out, but itcould well be passed and you
could turn a lot of gun ownersinto felons here very, very
quickly.
So it's just these sorts ofthings.
You just look at both of themand go.
What is going?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
on.
There's just no common sense.
We've talked about this fromthe beginning, that we're team
common sense.
It's not that it's not rocketscience.
It's just how do you do thebest for the bulk of the people
of the state, and it feels likethe state legislature on a whole
often forgets that.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
And it's hard, yeah,
but again you get some people to
slide back and forth on some ofthe stuff and understand it.
We watched a hearing last weekwhere we were watching I think
it was Senate finance and youhad them going back and forth
and you had Republicans andDemocrats that came together and
said we can't go crush theenergy industry in this state.
And they pulled off a bill andtabled it and said, no, we're
not going to do this right.
So there are times when youdefinitely get both sides that
(17:11):
say, yeah, we get it.
But the problem is we have abig chunk of legislators up
there who don't seem tounderstand that, who are willing
to drive the state off a clifffinancially in whatever way they
need to for political purposes,and that's the part that's
frustrating.
So there are people on bothsides who really do do a good
job, who try to say, okay, we'vegot to be smart with some of
(17:32):
this stuff.
And we saw that with SenateBill 4 when they killed that.
That's that Mimi Stewart bill,where it was completely
irresponsible what she proposedand thankfully that ended up
being tabled and killed.
But there's still a lot outthere.
Again, those are two of thebills that we think are
important, that you should bepaying attention to.
There are many others as well.
There are a lot of people upthere fighting the good fight
for sanity, and we hope they'llcontinue to do it Team, Common
(17:54):
Sense everybody.
Absolutely All right?
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Well, let's, let's
talk.
Obviously, we can't start theshow without just at least
mentioning the blow up at theWhite house on Friday between
Zelensky and Trump and JD VanceCause I, you know, it's been the
only thing that people want totalk about for the last 72 hours
.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, it's
interesting.
So, you know, obviously youguys remember, right, and we get
able.
We got a little video that wecan just show.
We don't even have to run thesound, but everybody can go back
and remember the back and forththat happened at the white
house, and Trump going back andforth with Zelensky, and they're
yelling at each other, and thisthing kind of devolves into an
interesting battle back andforth.
Where I want to take this,though, is how do people view it
(18:30):
, Because if you, you know, ifyou don't like Trump, then this
was the worst day in Americanhistory, right.
And then if you think Trump cando no wrong, well, this was,
this had to be done.
And you know, I I kind of fallsomewhere in the middle where
it's like I didn't love this, Ireally didn't, I didn't love
this exchange, but at the sametime, I think what you see here
is some very simple realities tothis situation, and that is if
(18:52):
Trump doesn't step in and forgepeace, what happens?
Tell me the alternative.
Let's say that Zelensky saysI'm done with Trump.
Trump says I'm done withZelensky.
Okay, what happens?
Well, the war continues.
Okay, with what kind of support?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
for Ukraine.
That's the biggest question.
Is Trump's going to just cutoff support?
Okay, so let's just say.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Let's just say the US
says, okay, however many
hundreds of billions is enough,we're done.
Okay, but which, by the way?
We'll show you that in a second.
But let's just say the US sayswe're out, ok.
So even if Europe were to stepup and to somehow fill the gap
that the United States did rightwith, let's say, 100 billion
dollars, which they won't do,but let's just say they did,
(19:35):
what would happen then?
We'd have a standstill, right,we continue to have a standstill
.
We'd have Russia pouring inresources, ukraine, people dying
.
There is no other solutionother than if you don't have
Trump trying to forge peace here.
I don't know where this goesright, so I don't see a lot of
other options here.
So I do still think there's anopportunity for this to work
(19:57):
itself out.
But what's interesting to watchis this whole thing like oh my
gosh, this is the end of of, youknow, united States leadership
in the world.
It's not.
It's not because, quite simply,there's no one who can step in
there that can continue to fundthe Ukraine and give them all
the weapons that they need.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, it's
interesting because on you know
you go, you go on social and Iwas reading these to you when we
were driving is all these otherleaders in Europe saying we got
your back, we're here for you,zelensky, we're on your team,
you're not alone, we're going tosupport you.
I mean leaders from Denmark andFrance and UK and all these
areas which is great.
But at the end of the day,they're not supporting them
financially and with militaryweapons to the degree that
United States has been.
(20:33):
So what I would love to seehappen because, again, I think a
lot of this could have beenmanaged better had communication
, which is why we have saidsince the beginning what matters
so much in politics really isgood communication.
Right, you have to be able toreach across the aisle.
I don't think Trump's a bigZelensky fan.
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I think that's pretty clear.
I don't think that he was a bigfan of his to start with.
But to the degree that Zelenskycomes in without a translator,
things get quicklymiscommunicated, I think, on
both sides very quickly.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I don't think it's on
both sides.
I think you're exactly.
This is a really smart point,which is when, when you don't
have English as your primarylanguage, you end up saying
things in a way that can end upbeing a little more abrasive
than they would be had that beenyour first language.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Well, and I think
that you know and again like
Trump getting offended soquickly about when he was saying
you don't know, you know, waittill you feel it, wait till you
feel you know you don't have theocean to protect you and you
feel it.
And that was not.
He didn't really mean it bylike feel it, the way that Trump
took it.
I think, just watching from theoutside in, I'm like oh, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
I don't think that's how hemeant it.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I can see why Trump
got offended very quickly on
that, but I just think thewheels came off because of this
inability to communicateeffectively together.
So, zelensky, absolutely forthis kind of event.
I don't know why there wasn't atranslator, even like your
ambassador or somebody I meansurely there's no shortage of
Ukrainian.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You know English
translators, right?
I mean, even if that was thewhite house's job to provide
that I don't know whose job thatis.
No, no, no, no, no, no, hewould have his own.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, yeah, us would
not provide his translator, so
anyway, I just think that yousee this and then you and I
think JD Vance as much as I loveJD Vance, I felt like he was
kind of poking the.
So I don't want to get involvedbecause I don't really know and
I'm not going to pretend I dobecause I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Whatever happens with
that happens.
Yeah, you're right, I mean,there's definitely some friction
there, but I think overall herenothing has changed in the
respect that the deal that Ithink is best right now because
it's the only deal is the UScuts a mineral deal with the
Ukraine.
That's a mineral deal with theUkraine.
That that's gives the UnitedStates a reason to be engaged in
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that area of the world and towork a partnership with them and
then move forward.
It's not a great scenario forthe Ukraine to give up territory
to Russia.
Is is not good Now to act likeRussia is this conquering power
that's going to sweep acrossEurope?
They're not.
They do not have the financialwherewithal to do it, they don't
have the military wherewithalto do it and they do not have
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the population to do it.
They just don't Okay, so Russiais not going to take over
Europe because of this.
However, this is also one ofthose deals where Putin's
aggression, once again will berewarded.
It looks like, which to me isirritating.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, I just think
that they both I mean I don't
again I think I could bespeaking for people that you
know I just think there's thebulk of people want this war to
end.
That's what they want.
This thing was supposed to bequick, it wasn't supposed to
last very long, and it's gone onfor three years.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's a good point.
So that's where we're takingthis discussion now.
There's been been one poll doneon what are the American people
really think about this war,and it was done in coordination
with Mark Halperin's group, andso they do great stuff and it
says basically here Americansgenerally think that the Ukraine
needs to negotiate and end thewar.
Yeah, there you go, so negotiateand end the war, okay.
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So what do those numbers looklike?
55% say get this thing overwith as soon as possible and 30%
basically say yeah, you know,let them keep fighting which is,
which is, I mean, the the keepfighting thing is tough, right.
I mean, obviously, you know,there's still a 24 point
advantage with the Americanpeople who say you know, let's
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get this thing over with.
So again, another one of theseissues that the Trump haters are
like no, this is terrible, butif you look at the actual
numbers, most Americans don'tlook at it that way.
Now I think Trump has troubleahead and we're going to talk
about that in a second, but itis not because of this
particular issue.
So I think this issue issettled.
Whether we've settled it yet ornot, this war has to come to an
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end.
It's going to come to an endwith a minerals deal and then
the United States brokering apiece that Ukraine's not going
to be thrilled with and thatRussia is going to be rewarded
with to some degree, but thenRussia was drastically weakened
because of this anyway.
So I don't think it's gonna bea great scenario.
I don't want anyone to thinklike and I don't love the way
it's been handled.
I don't.
I don't love the kind of feelof how the how the Russians feel
like they're on the same sideas the United States.
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We should not be on the sameside as Russia on any of this
stuff.
It's, I think Putin's a superdestructive force in the world
and I think when he meets hisend it will be a hot existence
for him and where he's going.
I just think he's that kind ofhorrible, but anyway, sorry.
So there are a variety of otherquestions asked here.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Well, I mean.
So, ok, I maybe have jumpedahead, I should.
I should slow down again.
Going back to America agreesthat Ukraine will need to make
territorial concessions.
Again, this whole thinking thatyou know Ukraine is going to
have to give up land, right,that's kind of this point of
this is that 19% agree thatUkraine will need to make
territorial concessions.
Is that fair for Ukraine?
Probably not Right.
But is it the truth of you knowwhat you have to do when you're
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basically, I mean, I don't knoweven who's winning the war.
I don't know anybody winningthe war.
I think it's largely a stalematewhich is a tribute to the
Ukrainians Really, becausethey've been fighting, yes, so
then this next question wastalking about does America
approve of how Trump, Vance andZelensky handled themselves in
the meeting?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, and, by the way
, if you could look Basically,
what it comes down to iseverybody kind of looks at it
and says you know, zelensky didwhat he had to do.
He tried to defend his country,I think ham-fistedly and not
tactically very well, but he didwhat he had to do because he
was fighting for his country.
Trump and Vance were fightingfor their country.
So that's sort of what theresearch says on that portion of
things.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
And then it just
basically goes on to say who was
stronger in the argument.
Was it America?
Was it Trump?
Vance versus Zelensky ondiplomacy 49% believe that it
was Trump and Vance had astronger argument.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And again, some of
that gets back to your original
point, which is the linguisticsissue in all of this, zelensky's
inability to kind of recoverfrom what is happening here,
which I think if he was moreable to, he just never should
have ended up crossways.
This should have been one ofthose pliable moments where you
work together.
It looks good in front of thecamera.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
If you guys want to
yell at each other, heck yeah,
yell at each other behind closeddoors, closed doors also, you
know, and again, not to go onand on, but I apparently he had
some meetings, I think, withsome democratic senators ahead
of this.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's an boat.
He met from senators, bothparties, and I think some of
them yeah, some of them probablyundermined that meeting and
were like, well, you got to dothis, you got to do that.
Problem is that is when you are.
You know, look, this guy isfighting for his life, right?
And I think that he basicallywent in there not well adjusted
for the meeting.
He needed to be super.
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I mean you just when you getinto those meetings and a word
or two can go wrong and someonesets a bear trap for you.
Look out.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
And that can end up
happening.
And I think the point that Iheard really walking away from
that was peace needs to beresolved first.
That needed to be the firstthing that was done first and
then you can start negotiating.
But you have to be willing tobring in the peace, and I think
that some of those meetings hehad before he met with Trump my
understanding is some of thoseguys were like no, no, no, get
what you need first before youconcede to peace.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
And I don't know if
that was great counsel, yeah,
but that's not knowing whereTrump is on the issue too, right
, I mean, you got to understand.
Wait a minute.
I'm dealing with someone who,realistically, probably doesn't
want to give me that much more,so you need to begin to realize
where you are in that, andthere's no way he doesn't
understand that.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
So there's more of
that.
So and this is anotherinteresting one here, which is
was Zelensky offensive in someof the stuff that he said to
Trump and Vance?
So what did he say?
Well, he called vice presidentVance JD during the, which not a
great move.
Again, not your primarylanguage, you're going in and
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you're dropping JD on the vicepresident.
I mean, can you imagine if he'sonly keep coming in and been
like listen, Kamala, and thenyou've been like whoa, calm down
, that's the vice president,right.
And so there's some of thoselittle things.
And then some of the stuff hesaid, knowing that the United
States had been quite generouswith what happened.
And so, again, 62% of theAmerican people say yeah, no,
that was offensive.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, I can't, you
know.
Not, this is not quite the same, but I do recall going to a
governor's event and I was didnot know that there was the
governor of Wisconsin, I believe.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Scott Walker.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, and I and I
just referred to him as Scott
when I introduced him to you.
Well, yeah, but he was formergovernor.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I was like hey, I'm
Christine run candy.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
My husband's running
for governor, blah, blah, blah,
blah blah.
She took his hand and he's likeI'm Scott Walker.
And I was like hey, mark, thisis Scott.
And you were like hello,governor.
And I just felt like such a, Ifelt like a fool.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
So anyway, sorry,
it's a little different, but I
do sidebar.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I know it's.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I'm not, I'm not
coming in for peace, peace, okay
.
So, and then does the US haveleverage?
That was an interesting one too.
And it does.
And the US has a lot ofleverage, says 69% of the people
.
And I want to show you why.
Because look at this pie graphhere to show you where the
percentage of support for theUkraine, or Ukraine, has come
from.
Okay, and it's come largely,almost half of it from the
United States.
So you can talk about countrieslike the UK and Germany coming
out and saying we're there foryou and everything else, but
then you look at the amount ofsupport that has come from the
United States and that kind oftells you where things are.
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So, again, all this to say thatI think what you're noticing
here is and we're going to do aquick bite from Harry Anton on
CNN, who talked a little bitabout where are we on the
Ukraine policy from when Bidenwas in office to where Trump is,
and how have the Americanpeople changed on their feelings
on this?
So, because I know that therewas a shock to the system to
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watch that exchange, but reallyare people more upset with Trump
over this than they were withthe Biden position?
So listen to what is said byHarry Anton.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
You can kind of just
ask this is do Americans like
the way that Trump's handlinghis job compared to how they
felt about Joe Biden?
So this is the net approvalrating.
You look at Joe Biden back in2024.
He was 22 points underwater,Holy cow.
You look at Donald Trump.
It's just a different planetentirely.
I mean, the gulf between thesetwo is wider than the Gulf of
America or Mexico.
Depending on which side of theaisle you stand on, he's at plus
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two.
So look at this particularpoint, Americans are giving
Donald Trump the benefit of thedoubt.
He's doing considerably betterthan Joe Biden was doing on the
handling of the Russia-Ukraineconflict and so on this simple
question, I think Americans aresaying, OK, Donald Trump's doing
all right on this.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
OK, so there you go.
So, and not to say that this't,I'm just saying this is not an
issue that there's going to be aton of movement on, and I think
Trump has done what he's done.
Is it?
Is it catastrophic for him?
No, and does he have moresupport than it appears he does?
Yeah, I think most Americanpeople are like, yeah, end this
thing.
So now, is it fair to Ukraine?
(31:16):
No, it's not so.
And I think one otherfrustration here I want to show
you another pie.
I got a couple of pie graphsback.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
You were big.
You were big on your graphicstoday.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I know, I know I got
the pie graph here and I'm
feeling good about this.
These are the defense budgetsacross the world.
Okay, for the world's majorpowers.
Okay, the United States isalmost at a trillion dollars.
Okay, we have defended theworld for a long time.
So I think what you're noticinghere is a recalibration of
what's happening here.
Now.
The United States has to do abetter job.
(31:46):
We are wasting too much moneywithin the Defense Department.
Right, that has to be cleanedup.
I think everybody understands.
I'll show you why that is injust a second.
China spends $235 billion, andthen you see other countries
Russia, $146 billion.
So, again, you keep on goingwith these numbers here.
The United States has guaranteeda lot of country security for a
long, long time, and part ofwhat Trump is saying is look, we
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can't keep doing this.
Right, we cannot keep down thisroad, and so that's why I think
some of this adjustment ispainful, it's going to be
difficult, some of it will beham-fisted and some of it will
be tough.
Now look at the numbers as webreak down those numbers.
The one interesting number hereto me was listen to this.
It says today, just five primecontractors receive 86% of the
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Pentagon spending Five 86%.
Meanwhile, when you ended theCold War, we had 51 contractors
being allocated 6% of defensespending at the end of the Cold
War, meaning big companies aregetting massive pieces of
business, and I think that is aconcern, right.
And we have all this money tiedup in our defense, which I think
(32:54):
we need.
Believe me, I think we have tohave the best defense in the
world by miles.
I just firmly believe that myentire life and I don't think
that's changed, right, but theway we distribute that money has
changed.
Now.
Some of it's weapon systems andthings like that that account
for it.
But still, I do think some ofwhat has to change in the next
four to eight years is how wedisperse that money and as
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efficiently as we can do it tohave the best fighting force
possible here.
But we have defended the worldfor a long time and I still
think we have a role in doingthat.
But you're starting to seeTrump kind of say wait a minute,
we've got to have someaccountability here.
And this whole thing of Europetelling us, wagging their finger
at us, about how to operatewhen we provide them that
blanket of strength andprotection is tough to take.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Right, well, and I
think that's good.
I think that that but Trump isstill up against it on a couple
other things.
So obviously he's still doingwell on border crossings.
If you want to show this reallyquickly, you can take a look.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
This is unbelievable.
Yeah, I mean these crossings.
You're looking at crossingsthat were in the, you know,
150,000 plus range, three of theBiden years, and Biden said I
have to have, I have to have alaw passed to help me stop this.
And then you see, in 2025,Trump has just basically
eliminated it.
It's unbelievable With nolobbying.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
With no lobbying but
here's the concern that we've
been talking about and we talkedabout this for the last year or
so is really our issue withprices and our economy and how
Trump, while he is focusing somuch right now on the waste
that's, you know he's crackingdown on all that.
There's lots of things thatthey're doing really well.
The concern is, looking at thisheadline, trump has glossed
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over high prices.
Republicans worry it will costthem, basically saying hey,
listen, we're giving Trump apass for a while, we're letting
him get in, we're letting him goafter USAID and his doge all
that right, we want that.
We want to cut back on thatwaste.
However, we need prices here athome to start reflecting the
fact that prices are going togive it.
We want that.
We want to cut back on thatwaste.
(34:48):
However, we need prices here athome to start reflecting the
fact that you know prices aregoing to come down for Americans
Our food bill, our gas bills,things of that nature, right?
So how long are they going togive them?
Well, this is this Wall StreetJournal story, basically this
headline, and it saysRepublicans, who still pin the
blame on Trump's predecessor,say voters have been willing to
give Trump some leeway to enacthis agenda, but they warn that
goodwill might not last.
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Stephen Moore, who's a veteranoutsider advisor to Trump on
economics issues, says he'snervous about it.
The Trump administration needsto keep its eye on what's
happening with prices, and itshould be a top priority.
The trend is a little bittroubling, and then you know.
It goes on to say most economicdata released so far doesn't
capture Trump's time in office.
But US consumer confidence sawthe biggest monthly decline in
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four years in February.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, and the
interesting part is so tomorrow,
tuesday, trump will addressCongress and he's likely to
start to talk about this and tryto lay it out.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Well, he better.
Basically, Right, right.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
And again, it's not
fair to say what are you doing
after a month?
Right, I mean, we get thatcompletely here, but just
realize, if this keeps cause, Ithink this is an intractable
problem.
That's going to be a really bigdeal.
And so, therefore, if somethingisn't done, there's a problem.
And again, we're looking at, Ibelieve tomorrow the tariffs
start again for Mexico andCanada.
(36:02):
So, as a result, what happenedwith that?
And the answer is the stockmarket on Monday tanked.
Look at these numbers here,because it looks like right now
we're going to be dealing withthe additional tariffs, which,
again, tariffs in and ofthemselves may be what needs to
happen down the road, but it'sthe uncertainty that you see
(36:23):
with the stock market here.
And says US stocks tumbled inafternoon trading as President
Trump confirmed he would imposea 25 percent levy on Canadian
and Mexican goods.
The technology heavy Nasdaqcratered.
Tariffs on Canada and Mexicoare slated to start on Tuesday.
Hours ahead of the deadline.
Trump dash investor hopes for alast minute reprieve, telling
reporters that there will be noroom left for negotiations.
(36:47):
All of this against the backdropwhere the Atlanta Fed came out
and this was a couple of daysago saying the economy is
starting to contract, and sothat's a serious issue as well.
And one of the people you kindof watch and he's one of these
guys who's really smart on thisis Mohamed El-Erian, and he's an
economist.
He's been head of, I think,pimco.
(37:08):
I mean he's one of these superhigh-end investor guys.
But he's basically saying thisis sobering, notwithstanding the
inherent volatility of the veryhigh-frequency nowcast
maintained by the Atlanta Fed,meaning that when the Atlanta
Fed comes out and says thingscould be troubling early in the
quarter, it's not always asaccurate as it is late in the
quarter, right.
So this still has room tochange.
But for the most part here he'sdeeply concerned with this, and
(37:32):
so it's going to come down tohow does Trump lay out a message
saying here's what we're goingto do to bring prices down and
to keep things under control asfar as what you pay at the
grocery store and everywhereelse.
Energy I'm sure he's going totalk about the price of energy.
He's going to talk aboutgovernment waste.
He's going to talk about allthis stuff in the speech coming
up on Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Well, he's fairly
confident, because if you look
at his most recent post, he sayshere tomorrow night will be big
.
I will tell it like it is, Iwill tell it like it is meaning.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
I think he's going to
say we've got economic problems
and you better be ready, and hehas to reset all of that.
Setup goes and so.
But there are some things thatI think are happening underneath
the surface that could bebetter news than you may realize
here in Politico, and theirplaybook today actually laid out
some things that could be goingpretty well for the Trump
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administration on the economythat you may not see come
through quite yet, but theoverall infrastructure for a bit
of a comeback may be laid rightnow, even though we're not
seeing it.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Well, yeah, it says
tariff threats are working to
some degree.
Basically, is the gist of thisAnother stateside shift.
The threat of US tariffs hasled Honda to decide it will make
its next Civic Hybrid inIndiana instead of Mexico.
The automaker plans to startproducing more than 200,000 of
the cars annually in mid-2028 inIndiana, a pivot from its
original intention to go toGuada Guana, mexico.
(38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
No, and so that's
just one example.
And so they bring up a bunch ofdifferent examples of hey look,
there are some things startingto happen underneath the surface
, meaning a reset of how we dobusiness to some degree, which
doesn't always happen quickly.
So Trump's got to do a good jobin this speech to lay out to
the American people here's whatI'm doing, here's what we're
going to do.
But as you see the talk, thestock market plunge, you start
going wait a minute, what'shappening here?
(39:12):
In the chaos theory, while itmay work for Doge, it does not
work when you're talking aboutinvestments and people will be
pretty upset about it.
So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Yeah, okay, so
there's more GOP divisions
emerging in upcominggubernatorial races.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Okay, yes, okay,
incentive races.
I knew you'd want to talk aboutthis.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Yes, I do this is
from the Hill today.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
So the first one is
in Florida.
Everybody.
Yes, First Lady Casey DeSantismulling a gubernatorial bid as
Representative Brian Donaldslaunches Byron Donalds.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Byron Donalds
launches his campaign with
support of President Trump.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
So interesting enough
on her.
So yeah, so what, really,what's?
Going to be interesting here isByron Allsworth's gotten the
endorsement of Trump.
Casey DeSantis obviously.
Ron DeSantis's wife very smart,she's very capable.
The question is, will she runagainst him?
And that, to me, could be anabsolute war.
It could be an incrediblebattle.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
It's going to be a
Trump backed person versus a
non-Trump-backed personbasically in the primary, but
the non-Trump-backed person isCasey DeSantis.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
And she has more name
recognition than he does.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Well, of course,
early on, yeah, you bet, you bet
, so that could be reallyinteresting, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I think it's kind of
fascinating.
First article hit that she wasconsidering a run and they had
done polling on her and thingslike.
I just forwarded it to mark.
I was like, see, look, justtake a look at this one.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah well, no, I'm a
fan.
I think it could work.
I think we'll see.
I don't think she's gonna do it, I think donald's gonna be the
guy, but we'll see what happens.
And if she does, I think it'dbe a very interesting race that
that's.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
That's good, but
where's that quote?
I wanted to talk about thatquote really fast because it
said here she's not going to beobviously receiving an
endorsement from Trump and whatwe're potentially looking at is
a Trump versus DeSantisRepublican primary battle.
But it said in here hold on onesecond.
When you see a fork in the road, take it.
That's what Casey DeSantis hassaid.
Hey look, I think she could, yes, she could be tough, I don't
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know she might be saying listen,I see what's happened, I've
been paying enough attention, Iknow what's going on.
I think we can further.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
I think she's smart
and can do the job Absolutely,
and we're DeSantis fans.
We like him, obviously for ourown personal reasons.
But and there's one other thingthey mentioned in this, in this
(41:28):
article, and that was theArizona governor, right, rob
Robson.
Robson, yeah, yeah.
And.
And so Karen Robson versus, uh,you know an interesting guy,
andy Biggs.
Uh, this is not going to be arace.
I'll tell you that right now.
You don't think.
Andy Biggs has no path forward,none.
Karen Robeson has DonaldTrump's endorsement.
I know they mentioned in thearticle if Andy Biggs who's
who's like a freedom caucus guy,if he could somehow get like a
split Trump endorsement, whichwould be weird like at that
point it's happened before.
It's not gonna happen.
Yeah, it's not gonna happen.
Now karen has more money, she'sgonna have more name id.
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This is not gonna be close.
The desantis one with donald'scould be interesting.
This one is not going to beinteresting all right, one last
video before we wrap up here,because we're actually.
We have an ipad issue okay,where our ipad is running out of
juice so we're talking amillion, so we're talking a
million miles per hour becausewe got like two% left and we
don't want the show to shut down.
3% or 3% Okay.
All right, I want to show youguys this.
There's a doctor who's goinginto Walmart.
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Okay, and outside of Walmart.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's in
the parking lot.
Speaker 3 (42:16):
Right, right, right
right.
He's walking into Walmart, butoutside they're selling Girl
Scout cookies, and so I want youto determine whether you think
this guy is just kind of a jerk,kind of you know, like this is
a bummer, like why are youacting like this?
(42:38):
This is not the time or placefor this, or is he doing the
right thing to raise awarenessfor health?
Check it out.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
For you guys.
Yeah, how much for all of yourcookies?
Okay, can you do math for me?
42 times six.
So here's the deal I will buyall the cookies, if you will,
let me throw them away, and youdon't serve them to anybody else
.
I'm not sure if you guys haveheard, but there's a lot of
ingredients in here that aredefinitely not good for kids.
(43:06):
There's GMOs.
There's a ton of seed oils.
There's a lot of ingredients inhere that are definitely not
good for kids.
There's GMOs.
There's a ton of seed oils.
There's a ton of preservativesthat just really shouldn't be
fed to our kids.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
He can do whatever he
wants with them.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
Yeah, that is true,
but there's actually people who
want to eat them too.
Well, that's the whole idea, isI don't want people to eat them
.
I'm trying to preserve peoplefrom buying they don't eat them.
Yeah, I like to teach my kidsand I'm sure you guys are saying
that like it's not worthexchanging our health for for
money right same time.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
So I think we can do
I think you can do both things
it's definitely scientific peerreview, and then actually you
know, check out, check out mypage.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
I'm dr lake anyway,
but I I'll buy it all up if you
guys let me, and I'll just takecare of it from there.
You okay with that?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
uh no, I want my
girls to get the experience.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
Oh, okay, they can
make a big deal.
Yeah, okay, well, I appreciateit.
Speaker 5 (43:51):
Definitely put that
energy into like medium.
Yeah, what do you?
Speaker 7 (43:54):
mean.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
Pharmacy management.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
This is just as
addictive and problematic as
pharmacy.
I'm trying to help promote thisidea, and so I think the only
way we can do this is frompeople like us who can actually
do something about it, becausepeople at the top aren't going
to do anything about it becausethey make a ton of money off
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (44:09):
Well, okay, so we
were former Girl Scout people
and we sold the Girl Scoutcookies ourselves.
You and I have eaten a thousandcookies ourselves, right, but I
can kind of see his approach,because he could have just
bought them and thrown them inthe trash and tried not to make
an approach on this.
I do think we're seeing moreand more light be cast on foods
that are just not good for us.
I mean, we've got doctors goingafter Chick-fil-A.
We've got doctors going aftervarious brands and products
(44:31):
right now.
It's interesting.
I think you do want to expandthe awareness.
It would be great if GirlScouts themselves would have a
comment on it, or maybe they'regoing to look into their cookies
.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
What's their comment?
They're going to look at.
We're not going to sell GirlScout cookies anymore.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
No, but is there a
way that they could make them
that isn't full of all the stuffthat's so bad for us?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
No, well, no Because
they're delicious yeah.
I mean, this guy's a little bitof a killjoy, he's kind of
killing me a little bit.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
I get it.
He is a doctor.
I get it.
You can be a doctor withoutruining the vibe.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Well, guy.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
I think it's
interesting, though, because the
girls could have sold theirgoal of getting all their
cookies sold, and the mom saidno.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Well, I love how the
mom asked for a peer-reviewed
study.
She's like I need apeer-reviewed study that tells
me that these cookies are notgood for you.
Hey mom, let me just give you aclue.
They're not good.
We could do a peer reviewedstudy if you'd like.
But I love when you just pull aword out and you're like well,
if I throw a peer reviewed studyat this cat, this may throw
them off.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
He's a doctor.
Anytime you read a package ofanything and there's a word like
words and chemicals that you'dhave never heard of.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I just think come on.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
And these are little
kids they're, so I mean I get it
sold the cookies because thegirls are in there to get their
prizes.
Yeah, for selling the cookiesyeah so I would have said, hey,
kids, what do you want?
Like if a guy would have saidcan I buy all your cookies back
in the day and but then he saidI'm gonna throw them all out.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
I would have been
like, excuse me, no, really that
would have bothered you.
I mean, if I was eight yearsold maybe not, but like now
nowadays, I would have been likesir, no one buys Girl Scout
cookies under the opinion thatthey are really good for you and
really healthy.
Like they're not.
Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeah, it's a health
food.
No, I get it Right.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I mean, I just think,
the finger are good for you,
like mentally, like they are,they make me a happier.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
No, they're, don't
look, I mean, it's like anything
in moderation A few Girl Scoutcookies, not going to kill you.
I just think this whole thingand I get it, I get the health
concern.
I do understand that in a broadsense we have.
We have definitely abdicatedsome of our responsibilities to
our kids and the results hasbeen childhood obesity and a lot
of things like that.
I mean, I am, I understand allthat and I'm someone who firmly
(46:39):
believes in caring for yourselfphysically, so I'm all into that
.
But the doctor who goes in anddoes the old, hey kids, let me
just learn you something rightnow I just I think it's crazy.
And then I just love mom whoneeds the peer reviewed study.
And there's like, yeah, onceyou put that effort into
pharmaceuticals or whatever.
And the guy's just like, yeah,this is where I mean, if you
just go back and forth, and it'slike I understand where they're
both coming from.
(46:59):
But come on, stop, the kids areselling the cookies, get out,
stop, you know, killing the vibebrother.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Okay, all right.
Well that's how we're going toend it.
We're going to race out of herebecause our time it's like
Cinderella and it's midnight andwe're turning into pumpkins.
So thank you for joining us.
We will see you guys back hereon Thursday, Take care.
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