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May 10, 2025 111 mins
Outro: Nèg Pa Bondyé [Introduction] Join an enthralling convo with Dr. Andrew Maginn, offering a profound exploration of Haitian migration history and identity. We delve into the remarkable life of Pierre Toussaint, tracing his path from slavery to near-millionaire status in 1833 New York. Haitian kinship networks loom large for post-independence transnational Haitians. [Timestamped Overview] 00:00 First podcast discusses global migration and citizenship. 08:56 Haitian cultural retention through recipes and writings. 11:03 Social survival and kinship ties in families. 20:43 Ongoing impact of the Haitian Revolution discussed. 21:49 Discussion on Haiti's historical perspective and inaccuracies. 30:24 Education leads to mobility and familial reliance. 34:42 Problem of mislabeling in genealogy research archives. 40:01 Learning investment; New York City growth. 47:48 Pierre Toussaint's correspondences were mainly in French. 50:57 A man explores interracial relationships in Montreal. 54:42 Baltimore and Saint Domingue important during Haitian Revolution. 01:00:39 Haitian slavers' family's varied success and community. 01:09:22 Madras headdress was symbolic of social mobility. 01:13:12 Okra's growth after Haitian migration, gumbo's significance. 01:16:31 West African items and traditions used in slavery. 01:23:55 Oblate's sister sacrifices life caring for bishop. 01:27:01 Inequality in black experience and unmarked graves. 01:37:40 Complicated narrative of African American experience. 01:38:53 The Haitian diaspora experience involves constant movement. 00:00 Discussion on timely migration issues and historical events, emphasizing re-categorization of migration moments and current challenges faced by Haitians. 08:56 Haitian cultural retention in diaspora. 11:03 In diverse cultures, kinship ties provide support and joy, extending beyond biological relationships. 20:43 The Haitian Revolution's ongoing impact, discussed by scholars. 21:49 Discussion about Haiti's history and misunderstanding regarding its revolution start. 30:24 He is educated in reading, writing, for family errands and future success in New York. 34:42 Focus on correcting Haiti genealogy records mislabeling. 40:01 Learning investment, real estate, New York growth, infrastructure development in 1800s. 47:48 Most letters found are in formal French, reflecting education backgrounds from Haitian Revolution. Toussaint may have spoken Creole, but likely did not write it in correspondences. 50:57 Interracial couple leaves NYC for Montreal, exploring Haitian-Canadian connections and living in the Americas. 54:42 Baltimore flour trade with Saint Domingue during Haitian Revolution. 01:00:39 Haitian family's migration to New York and Baltimore, success in various careers, and impact in the Haitian Catholic community. 01:09:22 White madras headwear symbolized status and mobility for Haitians, especially women, before and during the Haitian Revolution. It was utilitarian but hard to keep clean, requiring maintenance. Fanny in Baltimore noticed the scarcity of this symbol within the community. 01:13:12 Okra's historical cultivation, impact on post-Haitian Revolution migration, and use in gumbo. 01:16:31 West African items and traditions used as rebellion in slavery, including okra for abortions on plantations. 01:23:55 Nursing sister dies from cholera while caring for the bishop. 1832 cholera outbreak hits the black community hard. Similarities to current disproportionate impact on people of African descent during COVID. 01:27:01 Discussion on inequality in black experience, unmarked graves in Baltimore, and the need for memorials to honor black individuals. 01:37:40 The speaker discusses a complex narrative beyond solely African American experience, focusing on the international element of Pierre Toussaint's story and his role in the Haitian diaspora. 01:38:53 Haitian diaspora experience involves constant movement and uncertainty, unlike other migration experiences.
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