Out of Whack

Out of Whack

Scott is a gay father of four children who lives in the San Francisco Bay area. Lisa is hetero-flexible, single mom of one grown daughter who lives in Tacoma, Washington. Scott and Lisa have know each other for more than 20 years. She's the closest thing he's ever had to a fag-hag. They love to shoot the shit and talk about EVERYTHING - Writers, writing, books, parenting, politics, social justice, religion, spooky stuff, life after death, science, pop culture, and current events happening in our out-of-whack world! I hope you enjoy the show!


November 29, 2021 60 mins

Michael grew up in Greer, SC.  He had the luck to learn to how to cook and garden from his grandparents.  As the youngest of 6 children and a house of 10 (parents, grandparents and children), it could be hectic at times.  Helen Mae (grandmother) started showing Michael how to cook.  Francis Marion (grandfather) showed him how to garden.

Every spring, Michael would help his grandfather with the garden.  From tomatoes to potatoes to o...

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Robert C. Steele served as a reporter and producer at various radio and television stations in Colorado and Arizona. He was a broadcaster at the Italian National Broadcasting Company (RAI Radio televisione Italiana) in Naples, Italy. 

He was a reporter for Armed Forces Radio and Television along the coast of Vietnam, the Asian Western Pacific and Vicenza, Italy. He was a volunteer and activist in the early gay liberation movement wi...

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November 16, 2021 57 mins

Brian got his start as a stand-up comedian at the The Comedy Cellar in NYC, and he is most known for his appearances on “CONAN”, his half hour Comedy Central special “COMEDY CENTRAL PRESENTS: BRIAN SCOLARO”, as Brian on ABC’s “A MILLION LITTLE THINGS”, as Doug on TBS’s “SULLIVAN AND SON”, Uncle Bill on “TEN YEAR OLD TOM”, Gordon on NBC’s “THREE SISTERS”, and as Stuart on FOX’s “STACKED”. About his role of Stuart Miller on “Stacked”...

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October 17, 2021 55 mins

Our friend, the physician and mommy to two beautiful daughters, Dr. Liz Cho drops by to talk about the past two years of COVID madness, takes some questions, and chats about our favorite show, The Crown. 

Liz is not only a front-line worker and hero to us all, she is also the proud mommy of two beautiful daughters. We’ll also talk about the craziness of parenting, working, and all to boo-boos that our kids get and what to do about t...

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October 11, 2021 34 mins

My old boss and good friend, Darren Starr, stops by to tell us about StarrData, his successful 12-year Salesforce partner business!

StarrData’s mission is to help businesses navigate the world of Salesforce to be more efficient and more profitable. We help companies improve productivity, increase the efficiency of their sales, marketing, and customer service processes, and increase visibility into their business.


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September 27, 2021 42 mins

The two hosts celebrate our 30th episode (actually our 33rd) of Out of Whack by talking about past episodes, outtakes, fart jokes, and anything and everything!

If you'd like to ask Lisa and Scott some questions, or ask our upcoming guest Lori Hardacker, for some bad dating advice (she's been dating forever!), leave a message on our voicemail. You could hear your voice on our podcast!!! If you don't want to h...

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September 20, 2021 41 mins

Scott Ayres is the current Content Scientist for the Social Media Lab who conducts extensive tests and research to help social media managers and business owners get the most out of their posts; busting myths along the way.

Scott is the co-author of “Facebook All-in-one for Dummies” and Podcast host for Social Media Lab and Social Media Lab LIVE show. He has written over 2000 blog posts on social media topics and has written for 3 b...

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September 13, 2021 53 mins

Stephen joins us again to talk about his new book, The Witch of Amesbury.

Stephen grew up wondering whether his seven-times great grandmother really had been practicing witchcraft back in the seventeenth century, and he finally decided to do something about it.

So he delved into the historical record and found that a great deal of information is available about the Salem witch hysteria. As a result of his research...

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September 5, 2021 38 mins

Philip is a Clinician at the Rainbow Community Center of Contra Costa County.

He is also a proud biracial gay man who grew up in Contra Costa and attended the Rainbow Community Center's youth group as a teenager. He attended UC Santa Cruz for his undergraduate degree before getting his master's degree in counseling at John F. Kennedy University. 

Philip loves the chance to support the mental health of LGBTQ+ teens...

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August 29, 2021 48 mins

 Our busy friend and Bay Area aerialist stops by for another fun chat!

Thai embodies versatility in his life and performances. He has been professionally training at the Circus Center and with renowned aerial coaches.

Thai focuses on smooth lines, clean technique, and powerful movements all the while giving the audience a taste of that Thai spice (I love this part!).

Check out some of Thai's moves on...

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August 22, 2021 60 mins

KARA GOLDIN - Kara is a disruptor. She is the founder and CEO of Hint, Inc., maker of award-winning Hint water, the leading unsweetened flavored water.

Kara has received numerous accolades, including being named EY Entrepreneur of the Year 2017 Northern California and one of InStyle’s 2019 Badass 50.  Previously, Kara was VP of Shopping Partnerships at America Online. 

Her first book, Undaunted:  Overcoming Doubts and Doubters, was r...

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August 15, 2021 47 mins

JULIE RUBENSTEIN - My good friend and COVID lockdown survivor is back for a fun and informative chat (more fun than anything!). 

Julie is a certified Image Consultant and award-winning podcaster, along with co-host Savannah Hawk. 

Julie’s Fox and Hanger website helps find clothes that support trans women and cross-dressing men’s wardrobe goals and that reflects their personal style. 

“I believe that dressing for your body type is just...

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August 8, 2021 54 mins

Both authors became interested in President Kennedy's assassination at a young age. Zachry's grandparents lived in Dallas in 1963, and saved newspapers from that era. Her grandfather was connected to the Dallas oil industry. Peterson became interested in the assassination in 1978 when she participated in the Presidential Classroom for Young Americans program in Washington, D. C. The two have collected books and artifacts ...

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August 1, 2021 52 mins

If we all lived half as much life as Toni has, we’d be so lucky!

  • She became an inner-city teacher at Crenshaw High School in Southern California where she taught drama and AP literature .

  • She was the subject of a book called "And Still We Rise" by Miles Corwin - And Still We Rise is an unforgettable story of transcending obstacles that would dash the hopes of any but the most exceptional spirits.
  • ...

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July 25, 2021 46 mins

Shinjini Das became a media proprietor at 26 with experience in software technology consulting and digital marketing strategy. She owns and sells her own branded media properties D2C, directly to her consumers of go-getters around the world, as well as B2B, to businesses looking for empowering media content to attract and engage their target audiences.

She has built a global digital community of go-getters looking for motivation and...

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July 18, 2021 51 mins

Diane is energized, committed, and passionate about leading wellness conversations around life balance, mental wellness, self-care, self-realization, plant-based nutrition, and whole life wellness. Her joy is seeing individuals adapt health and wellness methods that reduce stress and bring harmonious balance to their lives. She excels at equipping busy professionals with workable wellness advice and strategies that meet their deman...

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July 4, 2021 43 mins

Patti is a Psychic-Medium and “Good Witch” best known for her recurring role on the Travel Channel’s #1 show GHOST ADVENTURES.


Patti’s body of work includes appearances on such shows as MASTER CHEF, BEVERLY HILLS PAWN and Jeff Lewis’ FLIPPIN...

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June 27, 2021 60 mins

Josh is an author and public speaker, sharing his story and educating others about addiction.

Joshua believes that if we, as a society, can begin to talk more about pornography addiction and mental health, people may be able to address their addictions before they devolve to the unhealthy and criminal places where his very own hit rock bottom. For years, on the outside, people only saw him as a successful magazine publish...

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June 20, 2021 42 mins

Mari Cartagenova is a Psychic Medium, Animal Communicator, and best-selling Author with clients from all over the globe. She specializes in heartfelt messages from both passed loved ones as well as living or passed fur babies.

When you sit with Mari you can really feel the presence of your loved one. Her connections offer specific detail and leave you feeling both at peace and uplifted at the same time.  Mari's guidance during ...

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June 13, 2021 47 mins

Annette stops in to talk about her book about the afterlife.
She’s a Certified Public Accountant and an accomplished healthcare executive. Her mother-in-law led her on a path after she died to prove to her that there is an afterlife.

Being a hard-wired, analytical, left-side brain dominant person, Annette had to be convinced with visible, tangible, and otherwise unexplainable occurrences. She has connected the do...

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