April 23, 2026 • 35 mins
Anna Paul’s recent TikTok Live has proven she’s still got a long way to go to redeem herself. Despite being cancelled by Mikaela Testa more than a year ago, it’s clear the internet hasn’t forgotten about the controversial Only Fans creator’s misdemeanours.
Tammy Hembrow stirs up a cheating scandal on her 32nd birthday.
A Perth influencer has apologised to her followers, after leaving her six-month-old son alone in a Bali hotel room, while she got a massage.
And Brittany Saunders has hit back at critics who slammed her clothing brand’s first influencer trip, as Lucy Jackson weighs in.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Amy Talber.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Kate Talba, and I'm Sophie Torber. And coming up
on today's show, Tammy Hembo stirs up a cheating scandal.
A Perth influencer is criticized for leaving her baby alone
in a hotel room. Britney Saunders hits back at critics
over Fate Estate and why the Internet still hasn't forgiven
Anna Paul. But first, a couple of weeks ago, we
(00:33):
joked on the podcast that if we ever get merch made,
we need the phrase kick to the dick printed on
it because we seem to say it a lot. It
seems to pop up in conversation. You in particular, Kate,
this phrase just seems to roll off your tongue.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I didn't even know I was saying it till recently
when we said it twice in an episode and I
was like, oh. When I was listening back, I was like,
probably should rain that in a little bit. And it
seems to have annoyed one of our long standing listeners.
So a lista called Madison left to review on Apple Podcasts,
saying please stop saying kick.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
To the dick please, it's so grossed to here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I thought this was so funny I had to screenshot
it and put it up on our Instagram story. I
love that you say you had to screenshot it. You
firstly sent it to Kate and I every new review
we seem to get, despite Kate and I saying we
don't want to see it, you sent fru it was?
I sent through the nice ones now as well. Anyway,
I showered the just the negative. I shared the screenshot
(01:27):
on Instagram. I said, well, this person clearly isn't interested
in merch and this post received a massive response. It
seems like you guys are on the same page as
us and love the phrase.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
One listener wrote, Madison is dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've started incorporating this into my vogueab Another said I'm
waiting for the exact right moment to use this in conversation,
whilst another said ha ha ha ha ha, please never stop.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
To be fair, there was another listener who wasn't a
massive fan of the phrase, so they said that they
expected that sort of phrase from Lucy and Nikki, but
not from us because.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We're just because we're not as cool as Lucy and Nicki,
or because the funny thing is, I actually think we
picked up this phrase from the newsroom, like I swear
at Channel ten they used to say kicked in the dick. Yeah,
because in newsrooms, journo swear all the time and they
use this sort of like phrasing. It's funny because when
this listener said, oh, I expect this from Lucy and
(02:21):
Nicki and not you guys, it made me want to
use it more because I think that Lucy and Nicki
are pretty iconic.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It was funny because when all this feedback was flowing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Through, I was like, hang on, did we create the
saying Like, I'm sure we didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I've heard it plenty of times before.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
There was some feedback that we say kicked to the
dick when I think most people say kick in the
dick regardless.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Would people like this on a shirt or would people
like this on a hat? I mean, amy will getting printed?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, because I've been offering to get merched on for
ages and you guys have been like, Nay, no one
will want it. And now it's shocked me that you
guys actually want that phrase on like a hat.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Would you actually wear it? Like, would you wear it out?
And about yes, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Per I would.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I actually noticed the other day that I was wearing
it's actually a pajama shirt from Gray Lines, and it
had the phrase like have a fucking pavlover or something,
and I was like, oh, should I not be wearing
a shirt that says fuck on it now that I'm
a mum?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like, are the actual word fun?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I said, have a fucking pad or something on it?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You know what I reckon?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If we do the writing incursive kick to the dick incursive,
it's more difficult to read, so maybe less rude.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't know, ideas. I don't know if you'd actually
write the word dick.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I feel like it would be a sensored thing.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, like an egg.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Not to sound like a lazy influencer.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's like, oh, please give me ideas, because I can't
be bothered to come up with them myself. But I'd
be really interested if there are other phrases that we
say a lot that we could also get printed on merch.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's like, somehow it came up in conversation with our
best friend that each of us have an apparent phrase
when we're angry at each other, like mine is all right,
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What you guys say.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I reckon ow Og listener Rodney, He'll have a few
up his sleeve.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I have no idea what to expect.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Tammy Hembro has celebrated her thirty second birthday by seemingly
taking a swipe at her ex husband Matt Sakowski. And now, okay,
this seemed like a strange move considering she seemed very
loved up.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I really wasn't expecting this, because it seems like
Tammy was having quite a wholesome birthday. So it appeared
that she was on set alongside her boyfriend Grayson Timouana.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It looked like he bought her a birthday cake to enjoy.
They also had dinner out with some of her friends
and her manager, and as predicted, he's appearing more and
more on Tammy's socials, so she actually ended up resharing
a picture her manager took of him and her out
at dinner. He also featured in Tammy's throwback photo dump
to their New.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
SI getaway, so there was a blurred photo of him
throwing Tammy over.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
A shoulder, So it seems like she's really.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Moved on and is happy as someone who has a
partner that's younger than them. It's always awful when your
birthday rolls around and you teak over to an extra.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Year older than them. He's twenty three, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, so like their ages are like opposites, you know,
twenty three thirty two, like the numbers if you reverse them. Yeah,
but I don't think he can. I think he likes
dating an older woman.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, but I'm guessing she probably doesn't like the fact
that it's always brought up that he's twenty three and
now she's there could be.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Seen as a bit of a flex though. I wonder
if the age difference is getting to her a bit though,
because she uploaded a TikTok miming to a quote from
Carrie Bradshaw saying it's my birthday and I'm officially old.
This is something I would do well, not so much
the miming, but the wallowing and getting older. Yeah, the
same person that removed their year of birth from their
Facebook profile when they turned twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I have to say twenty five was a tough tough
year for me.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Actually, that was.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's funny because when I saw this video, I was like,
it's so awkward because obviously Grayson is the one filming it,
Like was it based off a conversation that they had,
Like maybe he was rubbing it in that she's thirty
two and he's only twenty three, and then they filmed it,
Like I would love to know what went on behind
the scenes that led to that video.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know exactly what would have happened.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He this would be his little band to the He's
teasing her that you're old and I'm so young, and that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That would literally he would be in her head about it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I just can't get my head around the fact that
it's already been a year since we were on Matt
Szakowski Watch at Tammy's last birthday, because if you remember,
he was a notable absentee. He also wasn't there at Easter.
He has confirmed that they actually broke up in February,
so that's why he wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's also the day that she chose to launch her
supplements brand, Selfish SUPs, which again I can't wrap my
head around that that's been a whole year.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The more and more.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That I get to know Tammy hen Broth through her socials,
the more I think that she must really love drama,
because she's seemingly had this wholesome birthday where her boyfriend
seems to have been really nice.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, she was holding a bunch of flowers in the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Photo that we saw, he bought her a birthday cake.
He's sticking all the boxes.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But the following day, she uploaded a real of her
eating a sandwich, and in the video it was all
spilling out everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I was like, good on.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You for being so comfortable eating that sandwich, because it
was kind of like vision that you wouldn't want someone
else to see if you get that vibe.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So one of those massive sandwiches where there's so much
feeling that it's just impossible to eat nicely in public.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is that was that the vibe of the video?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, it was one of those sandwiches that was toasted
and it would have been very difficult to eat. And
there is someone sitting next to her that presumably is Grayson,
and he is catching bits of the sandwich as it
drops out of Tammy's mouth.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He wasn't eating the scraps.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Potentially he was a kuldn't quite see, and then he
actually put the sandwich box under her, and Tammy captioned
the video this kind of intimacy. Now, this obviously sparked
a lot of comments. So someone wrote chapter what, which
Tammy replied, chapter three, babes, keep up, wouldn't it be
chapter four?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I thought it'd be chapter four because there's been Reese Hawkins,
Matt Paul, Matt Zakowski, and now this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Also, she's dated other guys in between.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But the fact that she's actually saying that Grayson has
his own chapter, I think it's a pretty big deal. Anyway,
The comment that has got the most attention is actually
a different comment. Someone wrote, didn't you ex leave love
letters everywhere by your favorite chocolates, to which she responded,
cheated on me?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Question mark?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh, I mean we were talking in Tuesday's episode how
Matt Zakowski seems to be creating these reels to remain
relevant in this storyline.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But here's Tammy bringing him back in, throwing.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Him a bone. I mean, probably not the bone he
wanted to be thrown.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, ever since that Grand Prix cheating scandal broke
a couple of years ago and Mattzakowski was caught out
dming another woman. There's always been a question mark about well,
was he to blame for this breakup? Was he unfaithful?
And it seems like Tammy is saying, well, yes he was.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, And it's interesting timing that she's dropped this, especially
because Matt has done a really good job at repairing
his reputation being on i'masleb. I think everyone has sort
of started to question, well, was it Matt's fault this
relationship breakdown or did it have something to do with Tammy?
Especially after she stepped on the red carpet with Grayson.
There was almost this shift in tone that people were like, oh,
(09:02):
is she the problem?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean we were discussing earlier this week. Has Matt
Sakowski missed the boat in terms of releasing a tell
all about Tammy? Hembro But I feel like this opens
the door for him now to share his side of
the story.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's an interesting way to drop the information because you
could say, oh, she doesn't want to make a big
deal about it because she's only commenting it back to
someone in her TikTok comment section. But she knows that
everyone picks up on every little crumb that she drops,
so she can sort of drop this subtly, but she
knows that this is going to make headlines very shortly.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And for the Daily Mail journalists who haven't yet seen it,
I'm sure they're going to write an article after they
listen to this podcast about it, and.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Don't bother me.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's just between they just spent it on him and
when they span its again.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Anna Paul's recent TikTok Live has proven she's still got
a long way to go to redeem herself. Despite being
canceled by Mikayla Tester more than a year ago, it's
clear the Internet hasn't forgotten about the controversial only Fans
creators misdemeanor.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's funny because millennials and Genzettas often criticized for having
a short attention span, but it's not the case when
it comes to holding Anna Pool and her brother adis accountable.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So those viral.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Allegations Mikayla Testa made at the start of twenty twenty
five appeared to be very fresh in people's minds.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I think that Anna thought maybe she'd given enough
time people had forgotten about it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She was safe to jump on a live.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
TikTok, but from the get go she was spammed with
derogatory comments, so her friend Matthew, who she was filming with,
quickly blocked the word ooh when it popped up, but
it wasn't enough, so comments relating to sexual abuse allegations
against her brother Attis followed, and it wasn't long until
things absolutely snowballed and she looked really rattled, and it
(10:49):
was clear she was trying to ignore the comments, but
that was a little bit hard when the whole premise
of the live was to respond to people's comments that
were coming in, and everyone watching could see the comments
and her face reacting in real time.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
It was really awkward because she was looking at Matthew
and trying to tell him to block the comments without
people noticing, and someone's commented saying, oh, I thought you
didn't care, and she's like, oh, yeah, it's not bothering me,
it's just because it's spam, And then Matthew made a
comment to the effect of it actually kind of drives engagement,
so it's actually kind of better, to which Anna responded saying, yeah,
(11:24):
the views go up.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Interesting that she's referring to it as spam, because I'm
wondering if she's trying to infer that Mikayla Tester has
a number of bot accounts who are sending through these comments.
It's not actually people who legitimately dislike her, because when
all of the cancelations happened last year, they were both saying, oh,
you've got fake accounts, and you've got fake accounts making comments.
The thing is, Matthew's right, all of those comments would
(11:48):
be driving up her engagement, but I don't know if
it's the best look.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's pretty interesting because Matthew is actually the fiance of
Anna's manager and business partner, Sam Mangan, and the pair
appeared to have struck up quite a strong friendship over
the last couple of years. Because Matthew has featured quite
heavily in Anna's Coachella content. Some people were actually saying, Oh, Anna,
is Matthew your boyfriend, and She's like, no, he has
a fiance.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, it kind of makes sense that he's saying comments
like oh, this will do better for your engagement considering
his fiance is her manager.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know what I mean, He's thinking from a business perspective. Okay,
don't worry. This will just drive up make you more popular.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I just think he said it because he was trying
to make her feel better about being trolled. It's like
when someone sends you hate and you're like, oh, whatever,
go for it. It's just making this podcast bigger.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But the awkward thing is a lot of that commentary
was around serious allegations about her brother, and I think
by saying, oh, don't worry, it just drives up engagement.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You know this works for you. It was a little
bit off.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I mean Mikayla Testa ended up commenting saying, you know
how terrible that was to say. I mean, this is
the thing with TikTok Live, and this is why so
many people jump on them, because you see these awkward
things happening that probably it should have been a conversation
came but you're so panicked because you're getting all this
trolling that you're saying things that you wouldn't normally say
when a camera was on.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Reminded me a bit of all the lives that Tiki
TOOKI Guy was doing on the Manisphere documentary, and you
could just tell that all of those Manisphere creators. They
were willing to say outrageous things like that comment in
order to get more clicks and views because money was
ultimately their number one aim. I feel like Anna must
have been feeling a lot of pressure in this life
to answer some of these questions because she actually addressed
(13:29):
a comment about her brother Adis Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Let's take a listen to what she said. Are you
showering with your broins?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I shower with him every single day. I'm actually dating
my brother. Did you not know this? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
This comment about showing together is in reference to that
disturbing footage that resurfaced on Bredda from Anna's Only Fans
account in March, and for those who haven't seen the vision,
Anna is topless in the shower alongside her brother's then
girlfriend Mikayla Tester, and a man behind the camera begins
directing them and it sounds a lot like Anna's brother.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Attis poll Now.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Last month, Mikayla Tester addressed the vision, claiming it proved
her point that Adas filmed his sister's explicit OnlyFans content.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It got worse because off the back of Anna trying
to joke about dating her brother. Another user wrote, stop
earning from OnlyFans content with m m obviously referring to
Michayla and Anna started reading that comment out before looking
startled and quickly changing the subject. I don't think she's
going to be jumping on another live anytime soon. Yeah,
(14:33):
whose idea do you think this was? For her to
go live? Because it seems like it was a disaster.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I mean, I'm guessing it was financially driven because you
can make a lot of money from live streams. Viewers
can send you virtual gifts which you can convert to
real money. I mean, it's pretty ironic because the more
views and engagement you generate, the higher your earning potential is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
So all of those people who hate.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Watching and spamming the comments were effectively helping her earn money.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, that's essentially what Matthew was from referring to that
and saying, Hey, babe, don't worry about it. We're making
plenty of money with all these comments rolling in.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Do you think it's possible that she knew the.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Reception that she was going to get and went ahead
with it anyway, because we all know how much drama
boost visibility, and perhaps she needs it because as much
as she wants to hide it. She lost a massive
chunk of followers last year. She went from over seven
million TikTok followers to five point six million. Wow, And
while she still has a lot of people following her,
(15:28):
it's likely that one point five million people who unfollowed
her now dislike I feel.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Like she's just a bit irrelevant now. I think people
don't really know what to do with her. I mean
I unfollowed her when all of the drama unfolded, and
because I don't follow her now, I sort of forget
that she puts content out there. She really owned that whole,
wholesome sort of girl.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Next door TikTok sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Vibes, and now I don't think she really knows where
to place herself and who she is and what sort
of content to create. Oh, I completely agree. I think
this was a very strategic move because TikTok lives boost.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Your engagement way more than regular posts, So it's a
way of keeping her at the top of the algorithm,
and she potentially needs it after losing so many followers.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There are a lot of influencers who are really good
at responding to criticism or drama in real time. During
these sorts of lives, but I think Anna should have
learnt that that is not within her skill set at
the moment, particularly after that awful apology video that we
saw last year.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think this just proves how moderated
her comments section must be. And it does blow my
mind that she would actually put herself in this position,
particularly because you can't filter what's going on in a
live It's very difficult to control the comments, and it
was hard to watch her scrambling in real time to
moderate those comments while she had to grin and bear.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
As we have come to expect. Anna's nemesis.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Mikhayla Tester weighed in on a screen recording of one
of Anna's lives. She wrote, to see people still caring
about the suffering myself, Alice and Jamiah went through is
so kind. Thank you guys for always trying to keep
people accountable, especially when they refuse to. And I think
that she would be feeling a huge sense of relief
and that her coming out and exposing the Paul family
(17:13):
in this way wasn't for nothing, because took a lot
out of her to do all of this, and the fact,
you know, sometimes you think old people are just going
to forget about it. In a year, we've seen people
sort of be canceled for a short amount of time
and then people just forget about the misdemeanors. But in
this case, people have not forgotten and people are still angry.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
The Perth influencer has apologized to her followers after leaving
her six month old son alone in a Bali hotel
room while she got a massage. So before we get
into it, can you get us.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Up to speed with who the influencer in question is.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Her name is Talia Sky.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
She is a twenty four year old mother of two
who shares motherhood and lifestyle content on social media. She
has seventy four thousand followers on TikTok and sixteen thousand
on Instagram. Now, following the backlash, she actually made her
Instagram account private. I'm guessing that's because the media kept
taking pictures of her from there to use in their stories.
(18:11):
I'm sure she'll make her page public again once this
is all settled down.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, and I'm sure she'll have a lot of friend
requests as well to improve now.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Talia is currently.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Holidaying with her husband and two young sons in Bali.
And as you do when you're a TikToker. She's been
vlogging the trip, so in a daily vlog, she shared
that she had left her six month old son alone
in her hotel room while she went out to get
a foot massage. Now, this was while her husband and
their four year old son were out quad bike riding,
and in the vision, Talia showed herself walking around the
(18:42):
resort holding the baby monitoring screen.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Now allegedly, in.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The video, she made a comment about how the massage
was next door to the resort and she hoped the
monitor would stay connected. I have to say I haven't
actually seen the footage myself, because she swiftly deleted it
after the backlash set in.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Everyone also knows how dodgy the internet is in Bali.
This makes me feel super uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I mean, the thing that I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Is even though you can see your baby on the monitor, well,
if you're that far away, how can you do anything
about it if they wake up or something terrible happens.
I just don't understand the reasoning or the thought behind this. Yeah,
it is difficult to get your head around. It's also
rather awkward because the baby monitor to Leah was using
was actually gifted to her as part of a paid partner.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Sure they'd be spewing yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So in October, she posted a video talking about the
benefits of the baby monitor and uncomfortably, one of those
that she highlighted was how amazing the monitor's range was.
So she spoke about how she was able to still
pick up the monitor five houses away while she was
watching her older son on his bike. Surprisingly, that vision
is still up on TikTok. Probably not the best promotion
(19:53):
for the baby Monitors. I wonder if they'll be asking
her to take that content down because they won't want
to be associated with her concern. Followers posted Talia's video
on Facebook page tea Time as well as redded, and
from there the story went viral and made international mainstream news.
Even people magazine in the US have covered this story.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I think a big.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Part of the reason it has generated such a strong response,
and you know internationally as well, is because many people
are during parallels with the Madeleine McCann case. So Madeleine
disappeared in two thousand and seven after her parents left
her in a Portugal apartment with her siblings when they
dined out at Tafas Bar, and I think the fact
(20:36):
that Taliah was off doing something that is considered self indulgent,
getting a foot.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Massage, caused this uproar because.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember at the time Madeline McCann's parents were absolutely
slammed because they were out to dinner and had left
their child alone. I feel like if Taliah had posted saying,
oh my god, I've had to pop out of the
hotel room to attend to some emergency and I've popped
the baby monitor, and people would have been like, oh,
that's so. But because it was something for her and
something that she didn't really have to do, it's angered a.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Lot of people.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It reminds me of a story we covered a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
There was a US couple called Matt and Abby Howard,
and they were criticized for doing a similar thing. So
they were on a cruise ship and they got a
huge amount of backlash because they posted a photo of
them watching their baby monitor whilst they were out at
a restaurant on board. They did have to clarify that
their sons were not alone when they went to dinner
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and that they had someone with their kids at all times.
I think it was one of their parents was apparently
in the room with them. People didn't really believe them though,
they thought, oh, they were just trying to save themselves
from some of the criticism.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I can understand why they felt the need to defend themselves,
because there is no backlash like the backlash you receive
when you're perceived to be a negligent parent, particularly a
negligent mother.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And while I.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really don't understand what Taliah was doing in this situation,
I mean, it's incredibly dangerous. There's a part of me
that feels really really sorry for her because the mum
shaming and the pylon going on at the moment would.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Be so difficult to deal with.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I think that one incident shouldn't shape how someone
is viewed as a parent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think it'll make her and a lot of other
parents who maybe do similar things reflect and realize maybe
that's not the right thing to do, particularly when you're
in a foreign country. The crazy part to me is
the fact that this isn't something that people have caught
her out doing. It's something that she actually chose to
post in her vlog, so clearly it wasn't something that
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she thought there was any issue with I wonder how
that feels when you put a piece of content out
like that and you're clearly not expecting any backlash and
then it just erupts like it has.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, well, I definitely don't think she'd be doing it again.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
She issued a statement on Instagram which read, I want
to address what's been circulating online. I made a poor decision,
and I take full responsibility for it. Although I was
only meets away from the locked to resort room and
had constant monitoring, I recognize that this did not make
the situation safe. We do have a lovely nanny here
in Bali who was unavailable that day. That is not
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a justification, just context. I understand the seriousness of my actions,
and I can confidently say that this is the first
and last time it will ever happen.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't mean to pick apart her statement because she
is a twenty four year old mum, and while the
term influencer is being bandied around, I feel like she's
quite a micro influencer in a sense. I'd never heard
of her before. She's only got a following her seventy
four thousand people. I doubt she has a PR team
or a management team around her. So she's clearly written
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at herself. But I've found the comment around, oh we
have a lovely nanny, but she wasn't available that day.
It's like, well, then why not wait for another day
to get a foot my pace? Like it doesn't make
it any better.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I mean, it's not like getting a foot massage is
a necessity. I mean she could have waited till her
husband and son were back from their quad biking, or
even just brought the baby along with her while she
was getting it done.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's clear this statement didn't satisfy her naysayers, because the
next day, Talah released a follow up statement addressing what
she called misinformation that was circulating online. So she wrote,
I did not leave the resort. I did not attend
an appointment. The hotel room was in my direct site.
The pool and wellness area were only meters away. I
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was not away from the room for a long period
of time. I was watching him on the monitor the
entire time, and was close enough that I could access
the room in seconds if I needed to. She then
finished up by saying it wasn't an excuse, but she
wanted to correct what was being said on live side.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Note, how stressful would it be if you did this
and your baby started waking up whilst you're midway through
a foot massage?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Like, you know, what do you be?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Like? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Sorry, can we cut this short?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I don't even get how this is supposed to work.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, I mean, could you just quickly wipe that oil
off my feet while I run to my hotel.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The other thing I don't get is in Bali, a
lot of these services you can request from your room
or villa. I mean I read Bali for our thirtieth
which seems like a lifetime ago. Now, we had people
come to the villas to do massages for us.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I wonder if that was a service that they offered.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I'm thinking aback to our honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
We literally had messuses come in and give us massages
in the living room. So like, yeah, it doesn't really
make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
As you can expect, Talah has limited comments on her
TikTok because what she's probably receiving at the moment is
absolutely awful. What's made it a little bit awkward, though,
is she has allowed a couple of comments to come
through where people are throwing their support behind her calling
her a great mum. It just looks a bit strange
when there's only a handful of comments and then everything
else is just quiet.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
My advice to her is, don't go live on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
A whole No, Darlin, you're a loser, honestly.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Britney Saunders has hit back at critics who slammed her
clothing brand's first influencer trip. The event, dubbed fate Estates
or Influencers whisked away to a tusk and inspired villa
in Buy and Bay for the weekend O Kate. We
spoke about this on Friday Show because the event quickly
began trending on.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
TikTok Yeah, and the feedback was mostly positive.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So many people were praising Fate's inclusive guest list. However,
there was a corner of the internet who started questioning
why competition winners were put up in hotels instead of
staying alongside influencers at the estate. On Friday Show, we
discussed how ridiculous it was and people actually need to
give britt Saunders kudos. Now, since then, Brittany has come
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out and defended her decision. Let's take a listen to
what she said. On TikTok news flash.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I didn't stay at the FATA State House, neither did
my staff. We stayed in some accommodation down the road.
But that's not the point. The point is, no matter
what you do, especially when you're a female business owner
in Australia, people are always going to think that it's
not good enough. And I think my biggest takeaway from
doing Fade to State There's a Lot is that like,
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I don't give a shit anymore because what I'm doing
is for the people that want to be a part
of it and support it. And if people aren't for
supporting a female owned and funded and focused business in Australia,
solo owned and funded, may I add, then they can
just go and support and be part of something else.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I couldn't agree more with what she said.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I mean, this is just a massive case of tall
poppy syndrome. Instead of actually celebrating brit for putting on
such an incredible event which really gains so much traction online,
people instead wanted to pick holes with anything that they
could find.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It almost felt like faux outrage.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like I felt like people were just like, oh, let's
find something that we can drag.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Her for Yeah, it's disappointing that this always happens to
influencers who are.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Trying their best.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Like, Okay, I'm all for holding brands accountable that don't
do the right thing, but I think it's incredibly wrong
to go out of your way to pick holes in
something when someone is trying their absolutely best to make
it as inclusive as.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Possible, particularly because she did ensure that this was a
hybrid event which celebrated both influencers and her customers. I mean,
it's very clear that not all of the influencers even
stayed at FADA State. Some were bust in with the
competition winners. I mean, even Britt didn't stay at FADA
State for God's sake.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I love that Britt actually came out and stood up
for herself, though, because she went on to say that
she believes her brand created history in the marketing and
influencer space by pulling off an epic event which people loved.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
She really did, and I think that a lot of
brands are going to use her event as a blueprint
for future influencer events that they hold now.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Britt didn't stop there. She also addressed the commentary on
Reddit that the accommodation was quote, povo.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
What an Australian word.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Let's take a listen to how Britt responded, because it
was classic because I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Not doing what I'm doing for those people that sit
online and going this isn't good enough. The customers are
in Povo accommodation. Povo. They had beachfront views. Thank you
very much. I wish I was staying there. You know,
It's just no matter what we do, there's always going
to be people, you know, saying something and it's just
so rich because you know, I can be trying the most,
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I can be trying to include everyone. I can try
to be growing my business, you know, which is what
I'm trying to do. I'm trying to grow my business
in Australia and people will shit on it. But they're
the same sort of people would be like, yeah, we
love supporting businesses and I'm all for female empowerment, but
then they just shit on people trying to actually do something.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Why did brit saying povo remind me so much of
Jamai King using the word? I feel like this was
a word that we use a lot at high school,
but I don't really hear it anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the word festy,
Like you don't hear festy a lot, but when it's
brought up, it just takes me back to that time
in my life when it was.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Used a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Why does it remind me of the word fuckly as well?
These are all jamaking anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Britt then went on to remind her followers that Fate
is completely self funded and she doesn't have outside investors involved.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
She isn't owned by a parent company of billionaire men.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So she's confused why people are being so critical of her.
She also pointed out that her label does sizes between
six and twenty six in women's clothes, a feat that
many larger labels haven't been able to achieve.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, as I touched on before, it just seems
like the brands who do the most are then the
most criticized and the most under the microscope, which doesn't
make any sense.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's like, if you want to spend.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Your time trying to make brands do better, then go
look elsewhere because Fate's already doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to take some credit for Brit speaking out
about this matter, because she was spurred on by Lucy Jackson,
who was spurred on by our podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So Lucy put up a car rant saying this.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
People are so fucking crazy online. Oh I don't know why,
but this has really struck a chord with me. I
think because I just I think Britt is actually doing
the most by being so inclusive with everyone. She gives
back to her customers, and you guys are still gonna
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find something to whinge about, like this is fucking kay.
I think I'm having a psychotic break. You cannot win
and everyone that's fucking winging. I urge you to start
a fucking business in this day and age and fucking
be able to be everything to everyone and make everyone happy,
because I own a business.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's fucking hard work.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I love how passionate she was about this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Her TikTok is one of my favorites at the moment
because she really doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I love how she had to preface in the comment
section that we were being supportive of Brit like our
topic wasn't slamming her for the event, because when I
first listened to it, I was like, holy fuck.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I hope no one thinks that we were the dickheads
who were like, she's not doing enough.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, that worried me as well.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But yes, thank you Lucy for having her back at
the comment section because we all know what TikTok's like.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Someone gets the wrong end of the stick and then
runs with her.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I mean, I think the reason that this struck such
a cord with Lucy is because she also runs a
clothing brand.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She and Nikki have Jagger and Stone.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Lucy finished the video pretty iconically saying this.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Also the people in the comment section having a winge
about not getting invited, it's you're the last person I'd
want to invite to my birthday party, Like someone that
like you know, has a winge about that kind of
a thing, like.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Dullin, you're a loser.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Honestly, this is the type of energy I like in
twenty twenty six because I think there was a period
of time where influencers were.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Too scared to say what they really think.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And this is a case of someone who's right, who's
completely one hundred percent correct, Like you wouldn't want these
people at your birthday party, and they are losers. And
I'm glad we're in a safe space now where we
can actually say it and pat her on the back
of it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Why does this remind me of a comment that you
would say, kay, if you were allowed to be unfiltered,
like calling.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
These people losers?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Maybe you see, Jackson, is the unfiltered version of you
or the extroverted version of you that you wish you
could be again with the kicked in the dick comment?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Like you know what I mean, it's the cooler version
of version who you aspired.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You aspired to be. On that note, I think that
is all we have time for today. Thank you so
much for joining us with this episode. If you have
enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are subscribed
on Apple podcast and also Spotify, and if you want
to hear more from us, we drop a bonus episode
of Outspoken every Thursday, and this one's quite juicy, Sophie,
(33:33):
because I mean, I've been told I'm not allowed to
mention it on the main show, but you mentioned your
connection to the sixty minutes journalist who's gone viral recently.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yes, oh I do. You're selling me up the garden
path here.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I mean, he's making headlines. People are saying he's quite hot.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, well he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We used to work together in Adelaide, and maybe my
story is status a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's all I'll say. Yes, we are status bogging off
Adam Heggerty at this point. But anyway, if you want
to know what we're actually talking about, you will need
to listen to that episode of Outspoken, plus all the
details to subscribe her in the show.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Notes as long as the Daily as long as the
Daily Mail doesn't gone round with something from that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
They seem oh why not, I'd be happy.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
To get some free publishers in the podcast. Off the
back of that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Now, for our listeners who are mums, we also have
a second podcast called The Mum's Group. It has been
running for a couple of months now and we have
been very kind and.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Been doing feed drops and outspokens feed but please help
us out.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Go follow the Mum's Group on Spotify or Apple Podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts so we can stop
doing those feed drops because we know what you're listening
to it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
We just need you to go across to that main feed.
It's just a couple of clicks.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's not difficult. Even I can do it now.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
Ghana people of the Adelaide planes we pay respect to
elders past and present,
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Amy Talber.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm Kate Talba, and I'm Sophie Torber. And coming up
on today's show, Tammy Hembo stirs up a cheating scandal.
A Perth influencer is criticized for leaving her baby alone
in a hotel room. Britney Saunders hits back at critics
over Fate Estate and why the Internet still hasn't forgiven
Anna Paul. But first, a couple of weeks ago, we
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joked on the podcast that if we ever get merch made,
we need the phrase kick to the dick printed on
it because we seem to say it a lot. It
seems to pop up in conversation. You in particular, Kate,
this phrase just seems to roll off your tongue.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I didn't even know I was saying it till recently
when we said it twice in an episode and I
was like, oh. When I was listening back, I was like,
probably should rain that in a little bit. And it
seems to have annoyed one of our long standing listeners.
So a lista called Madison left to review on Apple Podcasts,
saying please stop saying kick.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
To the dick please, it's so grossed to here.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I thought this was so funny I had to screenshot
it and put it up on our Instagram story. I
love that you say you had to screenshot it. You
firstly sent it to Kate and I every new review
we seem to get, despite Kate and I saying we
don't want to see it, you sent fru it was?
I sent through the nice ones now as well. Anyway,
I showered the just the negative. I shared the screenshot
(01:27):
on Instagram. I said, well, this person clearly isn't interested
in merch and this post received a massive response. It
seems like you guys are on the same page as
us and love the phrase.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
One listener wrote, Madison is dead wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've started incorporating this into my vogueab Another said I'm
waiting for the exact right moment to use this in conversation,
whilst another said ha ha ha ha ha, please never stop.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
To be fair, there was another listener who wasn't a
massive fan of the phrase, so they said that they
expected that sort of phrase from Lucy and Nikki, but
not from us because.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We're just because we're not as cool as Lucy and Nicki,
or because the funny thing is, I actually think we
picked up this phrase from the newsroom, like I swear
at Channel ten they used to say kicked in the dick. Yeah,
because in newsrooms, journo swear all the time and they
use this sort of like phrasing. It's funny because when
this listener said, oh, I expect this from Lucy and
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Nicki and not you guys, it made me want to
use it more because I think that Lucy and Nicki
are pretty iconic.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It was funny because when all this feedback was flowing.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Through, I was like, hang on, did we create the
saying Like, I'm sure we didn't.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I've heard it plenty of times before.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
There was some feedback that we say kicked to the
dick when I think most people say kick in the
dick regardless.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Would people like this on a shirt or would people
like this on a hat? I mean, amy will getting printed?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, because I've been offering to get merched on for
ages and you guys have been like, Nay, no one
will want it. And now it's shocked me that you
guys actually want that phrase on like a hat.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Would you actually wear it? Like, would you wear it out?
And about yes, one hundred.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Per I would.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I actually noticed the other day that I was wearing
it's actually a pajama shirt from Gray Lines, and it
had the phrase like have a fucking pavlover or something,
and I was like, oh, should I not be wearing
a shirt that says fuck on it now that I'm
a mum?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like, are the actual word fun?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I said, have a fucking pad or something on it?
Speaker 2 (03:19):
You know what I reckon?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
If we do the writing incursive kick to the dick incursive,
it's more difficult to read, so maybe less rude.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't know, ideas. I don't know if you'd actually
write the word dick.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I feel like it would be a sensored thing.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, like an egg.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Not to sound like a lazy influencer.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's like, oh, please give me ideas, because I can't
be bothered to come up with them myself. But I'd
be really interested if there are other phrases that we
say a lot that we could also get printed on merch.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's like, somehow it came up in conversation with our
best friend that each of us have an apparent phrase
when we're angry at each other, like mine is all right,
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
What you guys say.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I reckon ow Og listener Rodney, He'll have a few
up his sleeve.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I have no idea what to expect.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Tammy Hembro has celebrated her thirty second birthday by seemingly
taking a swipe at her ex husband Matt Sakowski. And now, okay,
this seemed like a strange move considering she seemed very
loved up.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I really wasn't expecting this, because it seems like
Tammy was having quite a wholesome birthday. So it appeared
that she was on set alongside her boyfriend Grayson Timouana.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It looked like he bought her a birthday cake to enjoy.
They also had dinner out with some of her friends
and her manager, and as predicted, he's appearing more and
more on Tammy's socials, so she actually ended up resharing
a picture her manager took of him and her out
at dinner. He also featured in Tammy's throwback photo dump
to their New.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
SI getaway, so there was a blurred photo of him
throwing Tammy over.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
A shoulder, So it seems like she's really.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Moved on and is happy as someone who has a
partner that's younger than them. It's always awful when your
birthday rolls around and you teak over to an extra.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Year older than them. He's twenty three, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, so like their ages are like opposites, you know,
twenty three thirty two, like the numbers if you reverse them. Yeah,
but I don't think he can. I think he likes
dating an older woman.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, but I'm guessing she probably doesn't like the fact
that it's always brought up that he's twenty three and
now she's there could be.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Seen as a bit of a flex though. I wonder
if the age difference is getting to her a bit though,
because she uploaded a TikTok miming to a quote from
Carrie Bradshaw saying it's my birthday and I'm officially old.
This is something I would do well, not so much
the miming, but the wallowing and getting older. Yeah, the
same person that removed their year of birth from their
Facebook profile when they turned twenty five.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I have to say twenty five was a tough tough
year for me.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Actually, that was.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It's funny because when I saw this video, I was like,
it's so awkward because obviously Grayson is the one filming it,
Like was it based off a conversation that they had,
Like maybe he was rubbing it in that she's thirty
two and he's only twenty three, and then they filmed it,
Like I would love to know what went on behind
the scenes that led to that video.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know exactly what would have happened.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
He this would be his little band to the He's
teasing her that you're old and I'm so young, and that.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That would literally he would be in her head about it.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I just can't get my head around the fact that
it's already been a year since we were on Matt
Szakowski Watch at Tammy's last birthday, because if you remember,
he was a notable absentee. He also wasn't there at Easter.
He has confirmed that they actually broke up in February,
so that's why he wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
It's also the day that she chose to launch her
supplements brand, Selfish SUPs, which again I can't wrap my
head around that that's been a whole year.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The more and more.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That I get to know Tammy hen Broth through her socials,
the more I think that she must really love drama,
because she's seemingly had this wholesome birthday where her boyfriend
seems to have been really nice.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, she was holding a bunch of flowers in the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Photo that we saw, he bought her a birthday cake.
He's sticking all the boxes.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
But the following day, she uploaded a real of her
eating a sandwich, and in the video it was all
spilling out everywhere.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I was like, good on.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You for being so comfortable eating that sandwich, because it
was kind of like vision that you wouldn't want someone
else to see if you get that vibe.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So one of those massive sandwiches where there's so much
feeling that it's just impossible to eat nicely in public.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Is that was that the vibe of the video?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah, it was one of those sandwiches that was toasted
and it would have been very difficult to eat. And
there is someone sitting next to her that presumably is Grayson,
and he is catching bits of the sandwich as it
drops out of Tammy's mouth.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
He wasn't eating the scraps.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Potentially he was a kuldn't quite see, and then he
actually put the sandwich box under her, and Tammy captioned
the video this kind of intimacy. Now, this obviously sparked
a lot of comments. So someone wrote chapter what, which
Tammy replied, chapter three, babes, keep up, wouldn't it be
chapter four?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I thought it'd be chapter four because there's been Reese Hawkins,
Matt Paul, Matt Zakowski, and now this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Also, she's dated other guys in between.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
But the fact that she's actually saying that Grayson has
his own chapter, I think it's a pretty big deal. Anyway,
The comment that has got the most attention is actually
a different comment. Someone wrote, didn't you ex leave love
letters everywhere by your favorite chocolates, to which she responded,
cheated on me?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Question mark?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Oh, I mean we were talking in Tuesday's episode how
Matt Zakowski seems to be creating these reels to remain
relevant in this storyline.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
But here's Tammy bringing him back in, throwing.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Him a bone. I mean, probably not the bone he
wanted to be thrown.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
I mean, ever since that Grand Prix cheating scandal broke
a couple of years ago and Mattzakowski was caught out
dming another woman. There's always been a question mark about well,
was he to blame for this breakup? Was he unfaithful?
And it seems like Tammy is saying, well, yes he was.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, And it's interesting timing that she's dropped this, especially
because Matt has done a really good job at repairing
his reputation being on i'masleb. I think everyone has sort
of started to question, well, was it Matt's fault this
relationship breakdown or did it have something to do with Tammy?
Especially after she stepped on the red carpet with Grayson.
There was almost this shift in tone that people were like, oh,
(09:02):
is she the problem?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I mean we were discussing earlier this week. Has Matt
Sakowski missed the boat in terms of releasing a tell
all about Tammy? Hembro But I feel like this opens
the door for him now to share his side of
the story.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
It's an interesting way to drop the information because you
could say, oh, she doesn't want to make a big
deal about it because she's only commenting it back to
someone in her TikTok comment section. But she knows that
everyone picks up on every little crumb that she drops,
so she can sort of drop this subtly, but she
knows that this is going to make headlines very shortly.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And for the Daily Mail journalists who haven't yet seen it,
I'm sure they're going to write an article after they
listen to this podcast about it, and.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Don't bother me.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's just between they just spent it on him and
when they span its again.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Anna Paul's recent TikTok Live has proven she's still got
a long way to go to redeem herself. Despite being
canceled by Mikayla Tester more than a year ago, it's
clear the Internet hasn't forgotten about the controversial only Fans
creators misdemeanor.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's funny because millennials and Genzettas often criticized for having
a short attention span, but it's not the case when
it comes to holding Anna Pool and her brother adis accountable.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So those viral.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Allegations Mikayla Testa made at the start of twenty twenty
five appeared to be very fresh in people's minds.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I think that Anna thought maybe she'd given enough
time people had forgotten about it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She was safe to jump on a live.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
TikTok, but from the get go she was spammed with
derogatory comments, so her friend Matthew, who she was filming with,
quickly blocked the word ooh when it popped up, but
it wasn't enough, so comments relating to sexual abuse allegations
against her brother Attis followed, and it wasn't long until
things absolutely snowballed and she looked really rattled, and it
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was clear she was trying to ignore the comments, but
that was a little bit hard when the whole premise
of the live was to respond to people's comments that
were coming in, and everyone watching could see the comments
and her face reacting in real time.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
It was really awkward because she was looking at Matthew
and trying to tell him to block the comments without
people noticing, and someone's commented saying, oh, I thought you
didn't care, and she's like, oh, yeah, it's not bothering me,
it's just because it's spam, And then Matthew made a
comment to the effect of it actually kind of drives engagement,
so it's actually kind of better, to which Anna responded saying, yeah,
(11:24):
the views go up.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
That's so fun.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Interesting that she's referring to it as spam, because I'm
wondering if she's trying to infer that Mikayla Tester has
a number of bot accounts who are sending through these comments.
It's not actually people who legitimately dislike her, because when
all of the cancelations happened last year, they were both saying, oh,
you've got fake accounts, and you've got fake accounts making comments.
The thing is, Matthew's right, all of those comments would
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be driving up her engagement, but I don't know if
it's the best look.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's pretty interesting because Matthew is actually the fiance of
Anna's manager and business partner, Sam Mangan, and the pair
appeared to have struck up quite a strong friendship over
the last couple of years. Because Matthew has featured quite
heavily in Anna's Coachella content. Some people were actually saying, Oh, Anna,
is Matthew your boyfriend, and She's like, no, he has
a fiance.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Well, it kind of makes sense that he's saying comments
like oh, this will do better for your engagement considering
his fiance is her manager.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know what I mean, He's thinking from a business perspective. Okay,
don't worry. This will just drive up make you more popular.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I just think he said it because he was trying
to make her feel better about being trolled. It's like
when someone sends you hate and you're like, oh, whatever,
go for it. It's just making this podcast bigger.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But the awkward thing is a lot of that commentary
was around serious allegations about her brother, and I think
by saying, oh, don't worry, it just drives up engagement.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
You know this works for you. It was a little
bit off.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I mean Mikayla Testa ended up commenting saying, you know
how terrible that was to say. I mean, this is
the thing with TikTok Live, and this is why so
many people jump on them, because you see these awkward
things happening that probably it should have been a conversation
came but you're so panicked because you're getting all this
trolling that you're saying things that you wouldn't normally say
when a camera was on.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Reminded me a bit of all the lives that Tiki
TOOKI Guy was doing on the Manisphere documentary, and you
could just tell that all of those Manisphere creators. They
were willing to say outrageous things like that comment in
order to get more clicks and views because money was
ultimately their number one aim. I feel like Anna must
have been feeling a lot of pressure in this life
to answer some of these questions because she actually addressed
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a comment about her brother Adis Paul.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Let's take a listen to what she said. Are you
showering with your broins?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I shower with him every single day. I'm actually dating
my brother. Did you not know this? Now?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
This comment about showing together is in reference to that
disturbing footage that resurfaced on Bredda from Anna's Only Fans
account in March, and for those who haven't seen the vision,
Anna is topless in the shower alongside her brother's then
girlfriend Mikayla Tester, and a man behind the camera begins
directing them and it sounds a lot like Anna's brother.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Attis poll Now.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Last month, Mikayla Tester addressed the vision, claiming it proved
her point that Adas filmed his sister's explicit OnlyFans content.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It got worse because off the back of Anna trying
to joke about dating her brother. Another user wrote, stop
earning from OnlyFans content with m m obviously referring to
Michayla and Anna started reading that comment out before looking
startled and quickly changing the subject. I don't think she's
going to be jumping on another live anytime soon. Yeah,
(14:33):
whose idea do you think this was? For her to
go live? Because it seems like it was a disaster.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I mean, I'm guessing it was financially driven because you
can make a lot of money from live streams. Viewers
can send you virtual gifts which you can convert to
real money. I mean, it's pretty ironic because the more
views and engagement you generate, the higher your earning potential is.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
So all of those people who hate.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Watching and spamming the comments were effectively helping her earn money.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Well, that's essentially what Matthew was from referring to that
and saying, Hey, babe, don't worry about it. We're making
plenty of money with all these comments rolling in.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Do you think it's possible that she knew the.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Reception that she was going to get and went ahead
with it anyway, because we all know how much drama
boost visibility, and perhaps she needs it because as much
as she wants to hide it. She lost a massive
chunk of followers last year. She went from over seven
million TikTok followers to five point six million. Wow, And
while she still has a lot of people following her,
(15:28):
it's likely that one point five million people who unfollowed
her now dislike I feel.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Like she's just a bit irrelevant now. I think people
don't really know what to do with her. I mean
I unfollowed her when all of the drama unfolded, and
because I don't follow her now, I sort of forget
that she puts content out there. She really owned that whole,
wholesome sort of girl.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Next door TikTok sweetheart.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Vibes, and now I don't think she really knows where
to place herself and who she is and what sort
of content to create. Oh, I completely agree. I think
this was a very strategic move because TikTok lives boost.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Your engagement way more than regular posts, So it's a
way of keeping her at the top of the algorithm,
and she potentially needs it after losing so many followers.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There are a lot of influencers who are really good
at responding to criticism or drama in real time. During
these sorts of lives, but I think Anna should have
learnt that that is not within her skill set at
the moment, particularly after that awful apology video that we
saw last year.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think this just proves how moderated
her comments section must be. And it does blow my
mind that she would actually put herself in this position,
particularly because you can't filter what's going on in a
live It's very difficult to control the comments, and it
was hard to watch her scrambling in real time to
moderate those comments while she had to grin and bear.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
As we have come to expect. Anna's nemesis.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Mikhayla Tester weighed in on a screen recording of one
of Anna's lives. She wrote, to see people still caring
about the suffering myself, Alice and Jamiah went through is
so kind. Thank you guys for always trying to keep
people accountable, especially when they refuse to. And I think
that she would be feeling a huge sense of relief
and that her coming out and exposing the Paul family
(17:13):
in this way wasn't for nothing, because took a lot
out of her to do all of this, and the fact,
you know, sometimes you think old people are just going
to forget about it. In a year, we've seen people
sort of be canceled for a short amount of time
and then people just forget about the misdemeanors. But in
this case, people have not forgotten and people are still angry.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
The Perth influencer has apologized to her followers after leaving
her six month old son alone in a Bali hotel
room while she got a massage. So before we get
into it, can you get us.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Up to speed with who the influencer in question is.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Her name is Talia Sky.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
She is a twenty four year old mother of two
who shares motherhood and lifestyle content on social media. She
has seventy four thousand followers on TikTok and sixteen thousand
on Instagram. Now, following the backlash, she actually made her
Instagram account private. I'm guessing that's because the media kept
taking pictures of her from there to use in their stories.
(18:11):
I'm sure she'll make her page public again once this
is all settled down.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Yeah, and I'm sure she'll have a lot of friend
requests as well to improve now.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Talia is currently.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Holidaying with her husband and two young sons in Bali.
And as you do when you're a TikToker. She's been
vlogging the trip, so in a daily vlog, she shared
that she had left her six month old son alone
in her hotel room while she went out to get
a foot massage. Now, this was while her husband and
their four year old son were out quad bike riding,
and in the vision, Talia showed herself walking around the
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resort holding the baby monitoring screen.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Now allegedly, in.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
The video, she made a comment about how the massage
was next door to the resort and she hoped the
monitor would stay connected. I have to say I haven't
actually seen the footage myself, because she swiftly deleted it
after the backlash set in.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Everyone also knows how dodgy the internet is in Bali.
This makes me feel super uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I mean, the thing that I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Is even though you can see your baby on the monitor, well,
if you're that far away, how can you do anything
about it if they wake up or something terrible happens.
I just don't understand the reasoning or the thought behind this. Yeah,
it is difficult to get your head around. It's also
rather awkward because the baby monitor to Leah was using
was actually gifted to her as part of a paid partner.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Sure they'd be spewing yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So in October, she posted a video talking about the
benefits of the baby monitor and uncomfortably, one of those
that she highlighted was how amazing the monitor's range was.
So she spoke about how she was able to still
pick up the monitor five houses away while she was
watching her older son on his bike. Surprisingly, that vision
is still up on TikTok. Probably not the best promotion
(19:53):
for the baby Monitors. I wonder if they'll be asking
her to take that content down because they won't want
to be associated with her concern. Followers posted Talia's video
on Facebook page tea Time as well as redded, and
from there the story went viral and made international mainstream news.
Even people magazine in the US have covered this story.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I think a big.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Part of the reason it has generated such a strong response,
and you know internationally as well, is because many people
are during parallels with the Madeleine McCann case. So Madeleine
disappeared in two thousand and seven after her parents left
her in a Portugal apartment with her siblings when they
dined out at Tafas Bar, and I think the fact
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that Taliah was off doing something that is considered self indulgent,
getting a foot.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Massage, caused this uproar because.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I remember at the time Madeline McCann's parents were absolutely
slammed because they were out to dinner and had left
their child alone. I feel like if Taliah had posted saying,
oh my god, I've had to pop out of the
hotel room to attend to some emergency and I've popped
the baby monitor, and people would have been like, oh,
that's so. But because it was something for her and
something that she didn't really have to do, it's angered a.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Lot of people.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It reminds me of a story we covered a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
There was a US couple called Matt and Abby Howard,
and they were criticized for doing a similar thing. So
they were on a cruise ship and they got a
huge amount of backlash because they posted a photo of
them watching their baby monitor whilst they were out at
a restaurant on board. They did have to clarify that
their sons were not alone when they went to dinner
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and that they had someone with their kids at all times.
I think it was one of their parents was apparently
in the room with them. People didn't really believe them though,
they thought, oh, they were just trying to save themselves
from some of the criticism.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
I can understand why they felt the need to defend themselves,
because there is no backlash like the backlash you receive
when you're perceived to be a negligent parent, particularly a
negligent mother.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And while I.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really don't understand what Taliah was doing in this situation,
I mean, it's incredibly dangerous. There's a part of me
that feels really really sorry for her because the mum
shaming and the pylon going on at the moment would.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Be so difficult to deal with.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
And I think that one incident shouldn't shape how someone
is viewed as a parent.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I think it'll make her and a lot of other
parents who maybe do similar things reflect and realize maybe
that's not the right thing to do, particularly when you're
in a foreign country. The crazy part to me is
the fact that this isn't something that people have caught
her out doing. It's something that she actually chose to
post in her vlog, so clearly it wasn't something that
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she thought there was any issue with I wonder how
that feels when you put a piece of content out
like that and you're clearly not expecting any backlash and
then it just erupts like it has.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yeah, well, I definitely don't think she'd be doing it again.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
She issued a statement on Instagram which read, I want
to address what's been circulating online. I made a poor decision,
and I take full responsibility for it. Although I was
only meets away from the locked to resort room and
had constant monitoring, I recognize that this did not make
the situation safe. We do have a lovely nanny here
in Bali who was unavailable that day. That is not
(23:10):
a justification, just context. I understand the seriousness of my actions,
and I can confidently say that this is the first
and last time it will ever happen.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I don't mean to pick apart her statement because she
is a twenty four year old mum, and while the
term influencer is being bandied around, I feel like she's
quite a micro influencer in a sense. I'd never heard
of her before. She's only got a following her seventy
four thousand people. I doubt she has a PR team
or a management team around her. So she's clearly written
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at herself. But I've found the comment around, oh we
have a lovely nanny, but she wasn't available that day.
It's like, well, then why not wait for another day
to get a foot my pace? Like it doesn't make
it any better.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I mean, it's not like getting a foot massage is
a necessity. I mean she could have waited till her
husband and son were back from their quad biking, or
even just brought the baby along with her while she
was getting it done.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's clear this statement didn't satisfy her naysayers, because the
next day, Talah released a follow up statement addressing what
she called misinformation that was circulating online. So she wrote,
I did not leave the resort. I did not attend
an appointment. The hotel room was in my direct site.
The pool and wellness area were only meters away. I
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was not away from the room for a long period
of time. I was watching him on the monitor the
entire time, and was close enough that I could access
the room in seconds if I needed to. She then
finished up by saying it wasn't an excuse, but she
wanted to correct what was being said on live side.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Note, how stressful would it be if you did this
and your baby started waking up whilst you're midway through
a foot massage?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Like, you know, what do you be?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Like? Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Sorry, can we cut this short?
Speaker 4 (24:47):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I don't even get how this is supposed to work.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, I mean, could you just quickly wipe that oil
off my feet while I run to my hotel.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
The other thing I don't get is in Bali, a
lot of these services you can request from your room
or villa. I mean I read Bali for our thirtieth
which seems like a lifetime ago. Now, we had people
come to the villas to do massages for us.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I wonder if that was a service that they offered.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I'm thinking aback to our honeymoon.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
We literally had messuses come in and give us massages
in the living room. So like, yeah, it doesn't really
make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
As you can expect, Talah has limited comments on her
TikTok because what she's probably receiving at the moment is
absolutely awful. What's made it a little bit awkward, though,
is she has allowed a couple of comments to come
through where people are throwing their support behind her calling
her a great mum. It just looks a bit strange
when there's only a handful of comments and then everything
else is just quiet.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
My advice to her is, don't go live on TikTok.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
A whole No, Darlin, you're a loser, honestly.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Britney Saunders has hit back at critics who slammed her
clothing brand's first influencer trip. The event, dubbed fate Estates
or Influencers whisked away to a tusk and inspired villa
in Buy and Bay for the weekend O Kate. We
spoke about this on Friday Show because the event quickly
began trending on.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
TikTok Yeah, and the feedback was mostly positive.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
So many people were praising Fate's inclusive guest list. However,
there was a corner of the internet who started questioning
why competition winners were put up in hotels instead of
staying alongside influencers at the estate. On Friday Show, we
discussed how ridiculous it was and people actually need to
give britt Saunders kudos. Now, since then, Brittany has come
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out and defended her decision. Let's take a listen to
what she said. On TikTok news flash.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
I didn't stay at the FATA State House, neither did
my staff. We stayed in some accommodation down the road.
But that's not the point. The point is, no matter
what you do, especially when you're a female business owner
in Australia, people are always going to think that it's
not good enough. And I think my biggest takeaway from
doing Fade to State There's a Lot is that like,
(26:57):
I don't give a shit anymore because what I'm doing
is for the people that want to be a part
of it and support it. And if people aren't for
supporting a female owned and funded and focused business in Australia,
solo owned and funded, may I add, then they can
just go and support and be part of something else.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I couldn't agree more with what she said.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I mean, this is just a massive case of tall
poppy syndrome. Instead of actually celebrating brit for putting on
such an incredible event which really gains so much traction online,
people instead wanted to pick holes with anything that they
could find.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
It almost felt like faux outrage.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like I felt like people were just like, oh, let's
find something that we can drag.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Her for Yeah, it's disappointing that this always happens to
influencers who are.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Trying their best.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Like, Okay, I'm all for holding brands accountable that don't
do the right thing, but I think it's incredibly wrong
to go out of your way to pick holes in
something when someone is trying their absolutely best to make
it as inclusive as.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Possible, particularly because she did ensure that this was a
hybrid event which celebrated both influencers and her customers. I mean,
it's very clear that not all of the influencers even
stayed at FADA State. Some were bust in with the
competition winners. I mean, even Britt didn't stay at FADA
State for God's sake.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I love that Britt actually came out and stood up
for herself, though, because she went on to say that
she believes her brand created history in the marketing and
influencer space by pulling off an epic event which people loved.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
She really did, and I think that a lot of
brands are going to use her event as a blueprint
for future influencer events that they hold now.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Britt didn't stop there. She also addressed the commentary on
Reddit that the accommodation was quote, povo.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
What an Australian word.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Let's take a listen to how Britt responded, because it
was classic because I'm.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Not doing what I'm doing for those people that sit
online and going this isn't good enough. The customers are
in Povo accommodation. Povo. They had beachfront views. Thank you
very much. I wish I was staying there. You know,
It's just no matter what we do, there's always going
to be people, you know, saying something and it's just
so rich because you know, I can be trying the most,
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I can be trying to include everyone. I can try
to be growing my business, you know, which is what
I'm trying to do. I'm trying to grow my business
in Australia and people will shit on it. But they're
the same sort of people would be like, yeah, we
love supporting businesses and I'm all for female empowerment, but
then they just shit on people trying to actually do something.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Why did brit saying povo remind me so much of
Jamai King using the word? I feel like this was
a word that we use a lot at high school,
but I don't really hear it anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, it kind of reminds me of the word festy,
Like you don't hear festy a lot, but when it's
brought up, it just takes me back to that time
in my life when it was.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Used a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Why does it remind me of the word fuckly as well?
These are all jamaking anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Britt then went on to remind her followers that Fate
is completely self funded and she doesn't have outside investors involved.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
She isn't owned by a parent company of billionaire men.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
So she's confused why people are being so critical of her.
She also pointed out that her label does sizes between
six and twenty six in women's clothes, a feat that
many larger labels haven't been able to achieve.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I mean, as I touched on before, it just seems
like the brands who do the most are then the
most criticized and the most under the microscope, which doesn't
make any sense.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
It's like, if you want to spend.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Your time trying to make brands do better, then go
look elsewhere because Fate's already doing a good job.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I want to take some credit for Brit speaking out
about this matter, because she was spurred on by Lucy Jackson,
who was spurred on by our podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
So Lucy put up a car rant saying this.
Speaker 6 (30:52):
People are so fucking crazy online. Oh I don't know why,
but this has really struck a chord with me. I
think because I just I think Britt is actually doing
the most by being so inclusive with everyone. She gives
back to her customers, and you guys are still gonna
(31:12):
find something to whinge about, like this is fucking kay.
I think I'm having a psychotic break. You cannot win
and everyone that's fucking winging. I urge you to start
a fucking business in this day and age and fucking
be able to be everything to everyone and make everyone happy,
because I own a business.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's fucking hard work.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I love how passionate she was about this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Her TikTok is one of my favorites at the moment
because she really doesn't hold back.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I love how she had to preface in the comment
section that we were being supportive of Brit like our
topic wasn't slamming her for the event, because when I
first listened to it, I was like, holy fuck.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
I hope no one thinks that we were the dickheads
who were like, she's not doing enough.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Yeah, that worried me as well.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But yes, thank you Lucy for having her back at
the comment section because we all know what TikTok's like.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Someone gets the wrong end of the stick and then
runs with her.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I mean, I think the reason that this struck such
a cord with Lucy is because she also runs a
clothing brand.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
She and Nikki have Jagger and Stone.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Lucy finished the video pretty iconically saying this.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Also the people in the comment section having a winge
about not getting invited, it's you're the last person I'd
want to invite to my birthday party, Like someone that
like you know, has a winge about that kind of
a thing, like.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Dullin, you're a loser.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Honestly, this is the type of energy I like in
twenty twenty six because I think there was a period
of time where influencers were.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Too scared to say what they really think.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
And this is a case of someone who's right, who's
completely one hundred percent correct, Like you wouldn't want these
people at your birthday party, and they are losers. And
I'm glad we're in a safe space now where we
can actually say it and pat her on the back
of it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Why does this remind me of a comment that you
would say, kay, if you were allowed to be unfiltered,
like calling.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
These people losers?
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Maybe you see, Jackson, is the unfiltered version of you
or the extroverted version of you that you wish you
could be again with the kicked in the dick comment?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Like you know what I mean, it's the cooler version
of version who you aspired.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You aspired to be. On that note, I think that
is all we have time for today. Thank you so
much for joining us with this episode. If you have
enjoyed it, could you please make sure you are subscribed
on Apple podcast and also Spotify, and if you want
to hear more from us, we drop a bonus episode
of Outspoken every Thursday, and this one's quite juicy, Sophie,
(33:33):
because I mean, I've been told I'm not allowed to
mention it on the main show, but you mentioned your
connection to the sixty minutes journalist who's gone viral recently.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yes, oh I do. You're selling me up the garden
path here.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I mean, he's making headlines. People are saying he's quite hot.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, well he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We used to work together in Adelaide, and maybe my
story is status a little bit there.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's all I'll say. Yes, we are status bogging off
Adam Heggerty at this point. But anyway, if you want
to know what we're actually talking about, you will need
to listen to that episode of Outspoken, plus all the
details to subscribe her in the show.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Notes as long as the Daily as long as the
Daily Mail doesn't gone round with something from that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
They seem oh why not, I'd be happy.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
To get some free publishers in the podcast. Off the
back of that.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Now, for our listeners who are mums, we also have
a second podcast called The Mum's Group. It has been
running for a couple of months now and we have
been very kind and.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
Been doing feed drops and outspokens feed but please help
us out.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Go follow the Mum's Group on Spotify or Apple Podcasts
or wherever you get your podcasts so we can stop
doing those feed drops because we know what you're listening
to it.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
We just need you to go across to that main feed.
It's just a couple of clicks.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
It's not difficult. Even I can do it now.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
Ghana people of the Adelaide planes we pay respect to
elders past and present,
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