June 15, 2026 • 34 mins
Molly Mae and Tommy Fury’s controversial baby name reveal. Tammy Hembrow hits out at claims she’s moved on too quickly. Isabelle Mather’s fiancé's debilitating health issue. Taylor Swift’s courtside antics at the Knicks game AND Justin McKeone pleads guilty to fraud.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Trba and I'm Sophie Torbah. And coming up on
today's show, Molly May and Tommy Fury's controversial baby name reveal,
Tammy Hembro hits out at claims she's moved on too quick,
Isabelle Mathos Beyonce's debilitating health issue, Taylor Swift's courtside antics
(00:26):
at the Knicks game, and Justin McKean pleads guilty to fraud.
But first, so, I am surprised that Kate has allowed
you and I to be back together on the mics,
especially after our subs episode last week. When we promoted
the episode, we said we went rogue, and we really
did go rogue. I mean we were answering questions that
listeners had sent in and Kate was quite offended by
(00:51):
my response to why she doesn't work for our pr company.
I won't go into it because I don't want to
get into more trouble. Yeah, if you want to listen
to that, go and subscribe to our subs episode. We
will be giving Kate the ability to rebut what we
actually said in that episode. Oh, she was absolutely fuming
though I just I totally had forgotten what we said.
It was sort of a bit like word vomit. And
(01:13):
then I get this huge message from her about how
she is shocked in a polled that something like that
would go live, and that you know, she can't believe it,
And of course she tried to get our mum involved.
She said she was also surprised, poor mom. It was
hilarious because someone in our Facebook community I think it
was og listener Rodney. He wrote that he would have
loved to have seen the text message exchange that went down.
(01:34):
I don't think any money or any type of or actually,
maybe if Hillary Duff agrees to go on the podcast,
we will put that message exchange up. I don't think
it's good for anyone if those messages see the lad
of Dana Amy, I have a bone to pick with you. Yeah,
could you please? I'm getting an inch from you saying
the word hilarious. I've noticed it in a couple of episodes.
Now you kind of say with a Melbourne accent, you
(01:55):
really pronounced the a. It's hilarious. Way to offriend the
mid majority of our listeners. Who were from Melbourne. Well,
I'm sorry, but it's fine for them to say, but
you're actually from Adelaide, so you're not speaking in hours.
I would love to he if anyone else is triggered.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
By that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Baby born son, Midas, We finally know the name of
Molly May and Tommy Fury's newborn son. Nine days on
from announcing the birth of their second child, Tommy unveiled
the name Midas on his boxer shorts ahead of his
fight with Eddie Hall on Saturday Night. Sophie as a
huge stand of Molly May, I need your thoughts. Look,
(02:31):
it was actually the first thing I saw online when
I woke up on Sunday morning, and I was so
quick to screenshot it and share it to Outspoken because
I know a lot of listeners have been following along.
They need us to break the news first, because we've
been on a bit of a journey together. And I
have to say I was surprised by the name. Not
(02:52):
surprised in the sense that I knew it would be
unusual in something I haven't heard before. But I was
a little bit confused because I got a real scare
as soon as I uploaded it. I got a message
from Kate saying, Sophie, that's a brand name. You've gotten
it wrong. That's just a brand name that's on his boxes.
That's not the name of the kid. And I almost
deleted and I was like, hold on a second, because
(03:13):
in Australia, I think it's actually pronounced Mitus. Is the brand?
Is it? Mittus is a mechanic and it's also a
shoe brand or remember Molly warned that there was going
to be some confusion over the pronunciation. She said that
she told a number of friends and they'd all pronounced
it quite differently. Yeah, but Midas that is a very
well known mechanic. So a lot of ozsi's have been
jumping on, being like, hold on, this name isn't as
(03:35):
fancy as they seem to think it is. Now. The
name comes from a mythological king who turns everything he
touches into gold, and I just think that this is
the perfect backstory for an up and coming boxer. I
think that they had this very much in mind when
they came up with the name. I agree with you.
I think since they found out that this baby was
going to be a boy, Tommy has gone He's going
(03:57):
to follow in my footsteps. We need a really good name,
and what a fantastic name for a boxer. I mean,
Molly was saying that Midas went really well with Fury
as well. I agree. I was a little bit, to
be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the name.
I had seen it doing the rounds on TikTok. There
were rumors that Tommy's dad had let slip for the
past week. Apparently he was telling everybody the name was Minus,
(04:20):
and that's the reason why so many news publications were
also speculating that that was going to be the name.
How pissed off would you be? You know, you've done
everything to keep it under wraps. You've kept the suspense up,
you've dripped fetters the gender. You're waiting to make this
grand reveal at Tommy's fight, and then your father in
law is just telling everyone that we listen what I
with dads wanting to do that. I know our dad
(04:42):
was so keen, Like as soon as I gave birth
to Harry, He's like, when can I put it up
on Facebook? And I was like, Dad, I'm still in
hospital and I just want to get a nice family
photo together. For days, for David, can I announce it? Oh,
I'm in a media band on Facebook. It's like, why,
why can't you wait for the person to announce their news. Well, actually,
we were at a baby shower over the weekend and
(05:04):
hates father in law. He got up to do a speech,
which was lovely, but he then said, oh, Am, I
allowed to say the name, and they're like, oh, how
did you feel about the fact that it was just
Tommy who announced the name, Like, I know Molly was
in the crowd, but it was all very much about him. Yeah,
it's obvious there was a lot of strategy behind this
name revealed, which doesn't sit as well with me. I mean,
(05:26):
it's quite clear that this is a business decision for him,
because he told media a few days ago that the
name would be revealed at his fight, and it definitely
drummed up a lot of attention for it. A lot
more extra eyeballs were on that game. I saw a
lot of tiktoks of women who never watched fighting literally
tuning in because they just wanted to be the first
(05:48):
to see the name. And obviously the more people who
tune in, the more money the sport makes, the more
money he makes. So I mean it did seem to
be very strategic. He was also posting a lot of
links on his Instagram stories for people to pay to
watch the fight, so it is clear that he was
trying to make as much money as possible. I mean,
perhaps he's thinking, if I'm in this training camp whilst
(06:09):
my son is a newborn, I need to make it
worth it on a monetary sense. Yeah, surely he must
have been incentivized to do this. I'm guessing he gets
a larger cut of the profits if more people pay
for the fight. Yeah, I'm not really sure how it works.
I mean, it's sort of like the modern day magazine spread.
Instead of giving a magazine the exclusive, he's giving the
(06:29):
boxing world the exclusive. I mean, it does make sense
for him to announce it because it's quite clear that
he was the one pushing for a second child and
he really wanted a boy. So I think for him,
this is a pretty big moment because I think he
is expecting his son to follow in his footstep. So
that is why I think this name was more so
about him than it was about Molly. It just cracks
me up so much that so many of the men
(06:51):
watching the fight would have pretended like they didn't give
a shit what the name was, and then they had
to sit there with their girlfriends craning over them as
Tommy Fury dances on stage for like two minutes with
midas across him, like just fucking hilarious. I love that
he also had Bambie on the back as well, keeping
it fair. I mean at one point he had their elephant.
What's elephant? Carter, Come, I can't remember Ellie Belly? Ellie Belly. Yeah,
(07:14):
so she used to be on all of his boxing gear.
The Ellie Belly logo was next to Bambie's name. Ah,
He's keeping it fair between all three of them. What
I want to talk about, though, is the fact that
Molly May was at this match what like a week
after having a child, and not only was she there,
she was looking incredible. She was wearing a white, tight dress.
(07:36):
It would have been every woman's nightmare. A lot of
listeners were sliding into our DM saying, how is she
wearing white this close to giving birth? Because how does
she not bleed all over herself? My anxiety couldn't deal
with her. I haven't worn white pants and had a
period since watching that episode of de Grassy back in
year nine where that poor girl's white pants got covered
in blood, Like imagine being on that stage. There have
(07:56):
been a lot of comparisons over the past couple of
years to Molly May Princess Diana due to the big
breakup and it being sort of rolling coverage in the UK.
It sort of reminded me of a princess just being
put out to the public so soon after giving birth
and having to look perfect, because I mean, there would
have been a lot of smoke and mirrors going on
behind the scenes. Like I just think that there was
(08:18):
probably a lot of stress on her to come out
and look good after that, and I feel bad for her.
That would have been an absolute nightmare. And also she
would have known that everyone would be commenting one about
the name, what she looked like. I've already seen so
many tiktoks going viral of interactions between Tommy and Molly
after the fight and everyone's like, ah, he doesn't look
that into her. It's like he has just stepped out
(08:40):
of the ring. He's sweaty af and she probably didn't
want him touching her white dress. She would have felt
extra pressure as well, because it was only a few
weeks ago that she got trolled on TikTok for her
appearance at Venezuela's wedding when she obviously had some visible
roots and a black outfit which was apparently a big
folk I was speculating, they are like, maybe the baby
(09:01):
was born three to four weeks ago, because we don't
know the specific date. Just going back to the name quickly,
we touched on the fact that Midas is a shoe
brand and also a tire brand in Manchester, where Molly
and Tommy are from. It's also the acronym of the
Manchester Integrated Drug and Alcohol Service, so a lot of
people from Manchester were having a laugh about that. They're like,
(09:22):
no way, people were always going to find something like
that have a bit of a laugh about, weren't they.
I mean, especially when it's a bit of an unusual name.
It was really funny because one of our listeners wrote
in and said that they actually preferred Bambido, which cracked
me up. Look, I think in the long run, Midas
will grow on a lot of us. Now getting back
to Tommy's fight, some of his comments leading into it
have annoyed a lot of Molly's fans, including myself. There
(09:45):
is a clip of him talking about how he needed
Molly to essentially leave him alone for ten weeks while
he trained for the fight. Now, those ten weeks happened
to be when she was heavily pregnant and then gave birth,
not to mention the first week of the newborn son's life.
And it feels like history repeating itself because when Molly
gave birth to Bambi in twenty twenty three, Tommy was
(10:07):
fighting Jake Paul. Now, let's take it. Listen to what
Tommy said in the lead up to his fight Molly.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They said Molly was missing by the end of the day,
Let's keep having a nice life and nice holidays and
nice things. And it's got me done. I mean, and
it's good because she Stanza and she's never give me
a problem in draining and company once and that's a
that's all I'm asked for. Peace. I've got ten weeks
so we can train, get a job done. Come on.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The weirdest thing to me was the journalist simply asked him,
are you missing Molly? He could have just said, yeah,
I'm really missing her and the babies, but you know,
excited for this boxing match. She didn't have to go
into the fact that he had to be there for
the nice you know, so they could have nice holidays
and all of that sort of stubbers is bizarre. Also, like, oh,
(10:56):
just just give me some peace. The woman's pregnant, she
needs your support. I mean, this clip really got under
my skin because it sort of gave off this vibe
that Molly is just this subservient wife waiting at home
for Tommy, when in reality she earns more money than him.
I mean, her estimated net worth is twenty million dollars.
She featured in Forbes as under thirty last year, and
(11:18):
I mean it would have been bolsted even more with
a recent added ass deal. And also the fact that
her clothing brand Maybe is doing exceptionally well. And let's
remember that when she first launched Maybe and it was
meant to be all about her and her brand, did
she have a few weeks of quiet. No, she had
the huge breakup going on with Tommy Fury. When does
he ever let her have a moment to herself. It's
(11:39):
absolutely ridiculous. Look to be fair, I think that whole
debarker was actually quite good for her clothing brand, and
it got a lot of people buying. But I mean,
if you look at Tommy's net worth, he is estimated
to be worth ten million dollars, so that's half of
what Molly is. He apparently had his biggest payday on Saturday,
so he earned two point five million pounds before sponsorship
(11:59):
for the fight. So I mean, obviously he's earned a
lot of money offered, but could he just you know,
work on the timing a little bit. Why does it
always have to be around the time that his child's born.
I also don't think it helps that there's another awkward
clip of Tommy circulating on TikTok so. In this video,
he's at a press conference and a journalist asks him
to choose between Molly May and boxing, And what cracked
(12:22):
me up is they actually had points of reference on
the table, So they had a boxing glove to symbolize boxing,
of course, and then they had their own Ellie belly
on the table to symbolize Molly May. Like the thought
of the journalists having to go down and find their
own Ellie belly. Now, let's take a listen to what
Tommy said.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Ah, that is a tough one, isn't it. Your two
loves really, isn't it. Yeah, boxing life and then I
suppose the start of that love alngel, but really your
family life everything you just don't have a baby as well. Yeah,
it's definitely as tough one because without this I probably
wouldn't have gone on the show. And then obviously this
is my whole life, so one's led to the other.
(13:03):
So to be honest with you, they are just as important,
you know, as each other. But right now, two kids
in years in I would say it's got to be this.
You know, nothing, no sport or anything is more important
than your family and your kids because everything that you
do now is for them, and before it was just this.
But then when this comes along, it's a no contest.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think he took way too long to make. He
should have immediately been Molly may. I mean, one of
the top comments on TikTok was shouldn't be a tough choice,
which got over fourteen thousand likes. I know who I'd
be picking. I know it was so awkward, especially and
he's like, well, you couldn't have this without this, and
it's like, oh my god, just say mate, that wasn't
the question. The mother of your child is more important.
(13:45):
To you for goodness sake. I mean, can you imagine
the hormones that are racing through her body when she's
just had a child. Like I just imagine Zoe Ray
Molly's sister watching that, just be like fuck it, I'm
going to get him. But also is this you know,
like we've spoken before about how men take questions so
yet truly like just answer from the emotional perspective. Your wife, well,
(14:06):
your fiance. Isabel mathis fiance Harry has bravely opened up
about a debilitating health issue he's been struggling with for
the last two years. The model shared the news just
two weeks out from one of his biggest surgeries to
help solve the issue. Now, this isn't the first time
that we have featured Harry on the podcast, so back
in February, we discussed the full circle moment of his
(14:30):
engagement to Isabel Mathers. So they actually first met on
Instagram after he commented under one of her photos saying
marry me. A few months earlier. We also spoke about
how he and Isabel had recently purchased fellow influencer Ellie
Watson's Gold Coast Hinterland mansion for over five million dollars.
So as an outsider, things looked really great in their life.
(14:52):
It look like they were living the dream. But unfortunately
that wasn't the case. So this week he opened up
on his Instagram story about a chronic health issue there's
greatly been impacting his life. So back in May twenty
twenty four, he went to hospital with what he described
as a literal pain in the art so he was
diagnosed with a perineal abscess. However, that has now developed
(15:15):
into a chronic complex anal fistula that runs through his
internal and external sphincter muscles. Now, thankfully this condition is
not life threatening, but obviously it can be really debilitating
and painful. Now. Harry said he's had multiple surgeries and
procedures over the last two years, but there is still
no finish line in sight.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
As we mentioned, he is set to have his biggest
surgeries soon, which comes with significant risks. I just take
my hat off to him for opening up about this though,
because he said that this has been very difficult for
him to talk about publicly. He wrote that he's been
reluctant to talk about it because it's uncomfortable, emasculating and invasive.
He wanted to say that it's been a massive not
(15:57):
to his confidence too. He said there's been when he
can't walk properly, can't stand upright, sit comfortably, and has
to wear an adult diaper because of constant drainage from
the wound. That that is just horrendous. That's all good
on him for talking about it, because there would be
so many other men who experience similar conditions to this,
or things that they might deem is embarrassing. The fact
(16:19):
that he's opened up about that will give other people
the confidence to do so. I think it's really amazing
that he's opened up about it, Amy, because, as you say,
I'm sure that there are many people who can relate
to what he's going through and also that feeling of
embarrassment around it. I've seen a lot of amazing women
like Sophie Edwards and also Kelly Finlayson talking about their
experience with bow cancer and having to wear adult nappies,
(16:41):
and it's just something that people shouldn't be ashamed of.
And it's really important to open up the conversation about
these things because if people are too embarrassed to talk
about it, then they're not going to get treatment for it. Now,
it seems like Harry's announcement was in response to questions
he's been receiving about his apparel business, Saint Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He admitted it's part of the reason why he and
his business have gone quiet, but said he's still managed
to grow the brand, get a warehouse by his dream home,
and propose to his dream woman while he's been dealing
with his health issues. As you said, no one would
have known any of this was going on.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He did say that he had planned to talk about
it when he was over the condition, but said it
just never seemed to be over. Now. In some good news,
he said he's back working at his business and has
a studio opening soon now. Off the back of Harry's update,
Isabel shared her own with her two million followers. So
She said Harry's health issues have been the reason why
(17:38):
she's been quiet over the last couple of years. She
said watching her fiance go through this has changed her
and been the hardest years of her life. She said
it caused her to experience anxiety for the first time
in her life. Oh, it just sounds like it's been
a really tough time for them, and I just hope
that he's on his way to recovery, because this just
sounds horrendous to be dealing with.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Do you know that healing isn't measured by how long
you stay single?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you know that Tammy Hembro has hit out a
claims she's moved on too quickly following her divorce from Mattzakowski.
The og influencer claims her latest relationship with twenty three
year old model Grayson t Mowana has helped her heal
so much so the couple have even discussed having children together.
(18:24):
Oh my goodness, this is a bit of a bombshell,
isn't it now. She was very defensive in her latest
TikTok and it comes off the back of Grayson clapping
back at her followers just last week, to refresh your memories,
he uploaded a photo alongside Tammy and rode you wouldn't
get it. And it's kind of giving similar vibes to
her past relationship with Mattzakowski, where it's sort of us
(18:46):
against their mentality. Everyone's got it wrong about us. Because
she is putting across this view on TikTok that she's
very certain of her new boyfriend despite the large age difference.
So in a recent TikTok, she labeled him the right
person with the right timing and the right everything. You
can just tell that her audience are apprehensive about Grayson.
(19:08):
So the top comment on her TikTok was Tammy, we
are tired and so am I. I feel like every
week there is something going on with these two. Or
someone else wrote what is this tenth time lucky, to
which Tammy responded, imagine letting previous heartbreak stop you from
falling in love now. Another person commented until it's not
(19:30):
with a laughing face, to which Tammy replied, and if
it's not, I'll survive that too. You can tell that
Tammy and Grayson are trying to put on this united
front because they've been replying to a lot of their
naysayers with the same type of comments. So Grayson shared
a video walking hand in hand with Tammy with the
caption just want to make this girl the happiest she's
(19:51):
ever been now. Tammy wrote under this video, what the
hell you're so cute now? Grayson then shared another video
of the couple in a fi booth with the caption
the intimacy is the fact that nobody knows how our
relationship really is. If you really feel that way, why
can't you just tell her that instead of having to
put it up publicly, like write it in a letter,
(20:13):
send it to her as a text. Why do you
have to put it up? You're putting it up because
you've got something to gain out of it. You're trying
to look like a good guy. You're trying to gain
a following by sharing about your famous girlfriend. Like I
don't think this is as nice and cute as Tabby thinks.
What other normal twenty three year old guy would be
posting like this on TikTok about a girl that he's dating,
Like most twenty three year olds don't even want to
(20:35):
say that they're inner committed relationship, like they're too busy
playing in a field, Like this is not real life. No, Well,
someone wrote, bro, your body language has been very telling,
so let's see, to which Grayson replied, ha ha, I
do apologize. I have really weird body language, but I
assure you I love her very much. Weird If someone
else commented protect her man, she just wanted a love story,
(20:57):
to which Grayson replied, I got Hugh, I can't even
pronounce that propertly. I got you choose you have got
Jus Valentine. Oh my god. They really are trying to
prove their relationship, aren't they. I mean, the video wrapped
up eight hundred and ninety thousand views, which I mean
he'd be absolutely stoked about. That's what he was trying
to do. And now they often say that the people
who shout about their relationships the most on social media
(21:18):
are the ones in the most awful relationships. I mean,
I hope that's not the case for Tammy. I, like
everyone else, want to see Tammy in a lovely relationship.
But I'm just concerned, Like we're all concerned. Well, despite
these desperate attempts to prove to everyone how in love
they are, Tammy uploaded a very defensive TikTok on Thursday,
(21:38):
telling her followers that healing and falling in love aren't
mutually exclusive. Let's take a listen to some of what
she said.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They get the comment all the time, goal you need
to say single and heal. Here's my thoughts on that,
because I find it very interesting because I was single
a year after my last breakup, right, and the thing
for me is that healing it's not like there's not
some magical finish line where you're like, oh yeah, I'm healed.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Like that does not exist. So to think that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Healing and like falling in love are mutually exclusive, just
find that crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I find it funny that she thinks being single for
a year is like this huge length of time. Well,
she did go on to say that there was a
period of time where she was single for sixties. I mean,
I think it was from the age of zero to
six child but no, so she said that she learned
more in the year she was single after her last
relationship than she did in the six years that she
(22:36):
was single. Sorry, but what did she learn because she
literally jumped into a relationship with Matt Zakowski, got engaged
after a couple of weeks and was in what she
describes as a toxic relationship or did she She was
very defensive, that's in this video. I mean she does
get defensive about the guy, like she gets deep in
these relationships. I mean, well, it seems like things have
(22:57):
turned serious because as we touched on, is already talking
about baby. So during an interview with nine dot com,
she said, I always said I would never have more
kids because I'm like, I've been there, done that. I've
done the most, but my partner's never had twenty three.
I'm like, you want me, you want me to give
you some babies. He is a kid, she said. I
love being a mamma, and I feel like if it
(23:18):
feels right, I'm not saying yes, no, nothing. It was
a big no for a minute there. I guess it
just depends on the person. Well, that's one way to
get out of the honeymoon period very quickly, as by
popping out another child. Grayson, please God, listen please. I
mean they're not saying that they're going to have a
(23:39):
baby right away, but obviously they've been discussing it. Tammy
also revealed that Grayson has the tick of approval from
her mum and sisters, which I don't know if I
believe this. So she said, I will always listen to
my sisters and my friends and my mum, and they
all love my new boyfriend. So that's get him on
the podcast. Get him on the Sisters podcast. We want
to see what the dynamic is life. Tammy was really
(24:01):
spilling her guts in this interview with nine, though she
even touched on that shady post that her ex fiance
and baby daddy Reyese Hawkins did recently where he made
a dig about having bad taste in women's She said
he called me right away after he posted and was like,
by the way, that's not about you. Why did she
comment on the post? Then? Was that just so that
she could have him publicly right percent because everyone would
(24:22):
have read into that and gone, he's talking about Tammy,
So that's why she had to be like because she
wrote something like a bit rude, which prompted him to respond, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
She went on to say with Reese, I'm always just
being happy keeping the peace. But me and him we've
been through a lot together from years and years ago,
so it's nice that we're friends now. We're at a
good place. So when he posted that, I was like,
excuse me, bit rude, and he was like, I'm sorry,
that's definitely not about you. Justin mckeinn has pleaded guilty
to fraud, admitting he stole almost half a million dollars
(24:52):
from his employer while working as head of finance for
Rocket Brands, Amy, can you tell us more? Yeah, Well,
this is big because this is the first time we
have actually heard Justin admit guilt So back in March
he was charged with over one hundred fraud related charges
and this was after a fifteen month police investigation. Now
those charges have now effectively been rolled into one larger charge,
(25:17):
and that is of obtaining financial advantage by deception. Now
this is pretty common in Ford cases where there are
lots of transactions. Now we did learn from this court
appearance of sorts that Justin is living back home in
Perth because he appeared in court via a video link.
He is yet to be sentenced, but the charge carries
(25:39):
a maximum penalty of ten years in jail. That is huge.
I mean the fact that he has pleaded guilty early
that is going to work in his favor, as will
his previously good character. Now Justin will remain on bail,
but he must stay in Perth as he is barred
from leaving the country. He is also not allowed to
contact any witnesses. Meanwhile, his former employer Rocket is trying
(26:02):
to recover the money that Justin stole, so he is
currently facing bankruptcy proceedings because he hasn't repaid the money
back yet.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Give me yes out to minute nine left in the
game and then I rested it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, many we need to talk about Taylor Swift's appearance
at Game four of the NBA Finals. So she was
courtside with the Hame sisters to cheer on the Knicks,
and the action off court was just as interesting as
it was on court. This must have been an absolute
nightmare for the Knicks ticketing staff because there were that
(26:43):
many celebrities trying to get tickets from them that they
had to rank the celebrities in level of importance for
who was going to sit front row. Taylor Swift was,
of course front row. She was never going to be
anywhere but front row, and it must have felt like
such a moral victory for her because photos came out
showing her nemesis, Scooter Braun sitting a couple of rows
(27:05):
behind her. Now, this is a big move, particularly because
he was with his mega famous girlfriend Sydney Sweeney, who
should have been front rope. She would have been so
pissed off her. Well, they've actually come out and claimed
that they were sitting a few rows back because their
family was there. They wanted to sit with their family apparently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit.
(27:25):
This is just them trying to save face and being like,
we're just her. It's not because of Taylor Swift that
we're back here. Well, a lot of people, including Taylor's fans,
have been saying that she was actually quite obnoxious at
the game. I mean, I love everything Taylor Swift does,
so I am not saying this at all, but maybe
she was hamming things up a little bit because she
knew that Scooter could see her on the big screen.
(27:47):
She like, look who I'm here with? This would have
been me? This would have been me. Like someone is
there that you hate and you've had a bit of
a moral victory and then you end up acting like
a bit of a dickhead. Yes, And like, I mean,
it felt like she on the wines, wasn't it? Like
this was drug Taylor. I thought she was there with
the girls this time instead of Travis Kelsey because a
(28:07):
lot of people were saying that the way Travis acted
at that game was just not on the last Nick
game dumber. He downed a can of beer in front
of the camera, and you could tell that Taylor looked
a little bit embarrassed by it. But to be fair,
she was kind of doing the same thing, you know,
like she was loud and proud and out there drunk
like maybe she's trying to be like, I can do
(28:29):
it too, and this isn't an ick to me. We're
both on level playing fields here. I saw a lot
of people comparing when you go to a game with
your partner as opposed to your girlfriends, and how much
extra fun you have with them as opposed to the
old bowl and chain. One thing that blew my mind
was that Taylor was sitting next to the actress who
plays Olivia Benson on Law and Order. And any Taylor
(28:51):
Swift fan will know that Taylor loves her character so
much that she named her cat after her. It must
have been so much fun to be there, because I
feel like Taylor is a bit of a shit stir
so she would have loved the fact that she's seeing
these celebrities that she loves, but also these ones that
she hates because she loves nothing more than revenge. And
that's why I was extra surprised to see videos of
(29:12):
her hugging Kylie Jenna. So, I mean, maybe she thought
that she Kylie Jenner was the lesser of two evils.
So Kylie was sitting courtside with her boyfriend and actor
Timothy Chalomay and after the game, Taylor and Kylie were
spotted walking past each other before stopping to hug. Now
it was Taylor who actually initiated the interaction, so she
(29:33):
waved at Kylie and reached out for a hug, and
Kylie was very friendly. She said hi, and then said
how crazy the game was. Now, this is, of course,
off the back of Taylor's ten year feud with her
sister Kim kardash In. I mean, it was only a
couple of years ago that she wrote that song about
Kim's husband was asking me. He's like, so, why was
everyone making such a big deal about Taylor Swift hugging
(29:56):
Kylie Jenner? Like why do they have beef? And I
had to go into the whole Kanye West song and
blah blah blah. Look, dear, there's a big story here.
I don't know how long we've called, but yeah, I
mean everyone says that Chris Jenna works harder than the Devil,
so I feel like she has been working NonStop behind
the scenes to get things right between Taylor and the
Kardashians because it is better for their brand. We need
(30:19):
to talk about the custom T shirts that Taylor and
her crew were wearing, so they were rocking these blue
T shirts with ironic Nick's related slogans on them. So
Taylor's read Stevie Nicks and it turns out that these
were a very cheap at home job. So one of
the Haym sisters apparently bought the T shirts for two
ninety nine and she screened painted the phrases of well
(30:41):
with orange ink. I love this. Yeah, they looked really cool.
How many people are going to be recreating these? Well,
it was actually Taylor who requested the T shirt, so
she texts Alana Haym and said, look, I want to
wear a Stevie Nicks shirt to the game, and said
could you make this happen? And Alana responded, I thought
you would never ask this is my dream if this
was me. If she'd asked me, how would rushed out
and bought like the most expensive screen printing device to
(31:04):
make these T shirts? Or I would have satin hand
sewn the shirts together like I love that. This girl's
probably been like that didn't take me long at all.
I only spent three dollars on a T shirt, Babe,
You're probably up all night perfecting it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
There has been a lot of commentary. I feel like
in a lot of male circles that Taylor Swift isn't
really an expand she shouldn't be at the game making
a dick of herself. It's because they're also cut that
she was at all of the Chiefs games. You're like,
that's fucking present. Now she's on our basketball, She's integrating
herself into this, Like what the hell? I think that's
why she was being quite obnoxious, though, I feel like
(31:38):
it was a bit of a finger up on all
of the male sports, some of it. Now it is
quite funny because one of the NBA's commentators has had
to come out and apologize for saying that Taylor wasn't
a Knicks fan, because, of course, when the statement was made,
the swift Is came with their receipts. And it turns
out that Taylor declared her love for the Knicks publicly
in a twenty fourteen Time magazine interview. She said she'd
(32:01):
love the team since she performed at a halftime kids
talent competition when she was twelve, and at the time
she developed a friendship with a knickstar whose name I
cannot pronounce because I'm not a niche for what I
reckon that. It's around the same time that the movie
How To Lose a Guy in Ten Days came out,
and that's where Andy Anderson, the main character, famously went
(32:21):
to the k next game and she asked Matthew McConaughey's
character to go get her a diet coke just as
they're about to shoot the winning score. Well that was
when we were twelve. I swear that came out when
we were twelve, So I feel like a lot of
maybe people, I mean we if anyone asks us. Prior
to the Knicks even winning, we used to say that
the Knicks were our favorite because we got Knicks jerseys
(32:43):
because we loved that movie so much. It's just a
millennial moment, isn't it. I mean, Hailey Bieber was in
the crowd rocking the vintage gray Knicks jumper that Jennifer
Aniston wore on Friends. So there were a lot of
pop culture moments within that game. Yeah, I reckon. Kate
sent a screenshot through and was like, where do I
get this from? I've been looking for the Knicks hats.
I think it's like the forty seven brand, like the hat. Look,
(33:05):
I reckon, they'll be solder. Yeah, yeah, I know all
the bandwagon jumpers. Excuse me, Sophie, I will have it
that I have been a fan of the Knicks since
I was twelve, and if you go into my closet now,
I have pretended to like them since I just to
actually have a Knicks jersey in my closet. So f you,
everyone wanted to cosplay being Andy Anderson, didn't they? Because
(33:27):
everyone loves Matthew McConaughey. Now, on that note, that is
all we have time for today. Thank you so much
for joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it,
could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple
Podcasts and also Spotify. And I want to officially wish
my son Luca happy first birthday. This episode is coming
out on the sixteenth, his birthday. I can't believe it.
Congratulations Sophie for getting through a year of motherhood as well.
(33:49):
I feel like this day is just as much about
you as it is about Luca. Frust yourself, frust myself. Yeah,
it is a very special day and one that has
come with a lot of emotions. Last night, I was
looking through all of my newborn photos of Lucre and
feeling a bit teary, but yeah, we're going to have
such a fun day with him. And yeah, I can't
believe it's been a year a year since we did
(34:09):
our birth stories as well, so so exciting. Well, if
you did enjoy this episode of Outspoken, we would love
if you could go and leave us a five star review.
Sophie will be reading the review just as an FYI.
I will. Please don't kind, please don't make that encourage
you to make it extra meat. I mean that in it. Yeah. Also,
this episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
Garda people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to
(34:32):
Elder's past and present
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Trba and I'm Sophie Torbah. And coming up on
today's show, Molly May and Tommy Fury's controversial baby name reveal,
Tammy Hembro hits out at claims she's moved on too quick,
Isabelle Mathos Beyonce's debilitating health issue, Taylor Swift's courtside antics
(00:26):
at the Knicks game, and Justin McKean pleads guilty to fraud.
But first, so, I am surprised that Kate has allowed
you and I to be back together on the mics,
especially after our subs episode last week. When we promoted
the episode, we said we went rogue, and we really
did go rogue. I mean we were answering questions that
listeners had sent in and Kate was quite offended by
(00:51):
my response to why she doesn't work for our pr company.
I won't go into it because I don't want to
get into more trouble. Yeah, if you want to listen
to that, go and subscribe to our subs episode. We
will be giving Kate the ability to rebut what we
actually said in that episode. Oh, she was absolutely fuming
though I just I totally had forgotten what we said.
It was sort of a bit like word vomit. And
(01:13):
then I get this huge message from her about how
she is shocked in a polled that something like that
would go live, and that you know, she can't believe it,
And of course she tried to get our mum involved.
She said she was also surprised, poor mom. It was
hilarious because someone in our Facebook community I think it
was og listener Rodney. He wrote that he would have
loved to have seen the text message exchange that went down.
(01:34):
I don't think any money or any type of or actually,
maybe if Hillary Duff agrees to go on the podcast,
we will put that message exchange up. I don't think
it's good for anyone if those messages see the lad
of Dana Amy, I have a bone to pick with you. Yeah,
could you please? I'm getting an inch from you saying
the word hilarious. I've noticed it in a couple of episodes.
Now you kind of say with a Melbourne accent, you
(01:55):
really pronounced the a. It's hilarious. Way to offriend the
mid majority of our listeners. Who were from Melbourne. Well,
I'm sorry, but it's fine for them to say, but
you're actually from Adelaide, so you're not speaking in hours.
I would love to he if anyone else is triggered.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
By that.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Baby born son, Midas, We finally know the name of
Molly May and Tommy Fury's newborn son. Nine days on
from announcing the birth of their second child, Tommy unveiled
the name Midas on his boxer shorts ahead of his
fight with Eddie Hall on Saturday Night. Sophie as a
huge stand of Molly May, I need your thoughts. Look,
(02:31):
it was actually the first thing I saw online when
I woke up on Sunday morning, and I was so
quick to screenshot it and share it to Outspoken because
I know a lot of listeners have been following along.
They need us to break the news first, because we've
been on a bit of a journey together. And I
have to say I was surprised by the name. Not
(02:52):
surprised in the sense that I knew it would be
unusual in something I haven't heard before. But I was
a little bit confused because I got a real scare
as soon as I uploaded it. I got a message
from Kate saying, Sophie, that's a brand name. You've gotten
it wrong. That's just a brand name that's on his boxes.
That's not the name of the kid. And I almost
deleted and I was like, hold on a second, because
(03:13):
in Australia, I think it's actually pronounced Mitus. Is the brand?
Is it? Mittus is a mechanic and it's also a
shoe brand or remember Molly warned that there was going
to be some confusion over the pronunciation. She said that
she told a number of friends and they'd all pronounced
it quite differently. Yeah, but Midas that is a very
well known mechanic. So a lot of ozsi's have been
jumping on, being like, hold on, this name isn't as
(03:35):
fancy as they seem to think it is. Now. The
name comes from a mythological king who turns everything he
touches into gold, and I just think that this is
the perfect backstory for an up and coming boxer. I
think that they had this very much in mind when
they came up with the name. I agree with you.
I think since they found out that this baby was
going to be a boy, Tommy has gone He's going
(03:57):
to follow in my footsteps. We need a really good name,
and what a fantastic name for a boxer. I mean,
Molly was saying that Midas went really well with Fury
as well. I agree. I was a little bit, to
be honest, I was a little bit disappointed by the name.
I had seen it doing the rounds on TikTok. There
were rumors that Tommy's dad had let slip for the
past week. Apparently he was telling everybody the name was Minus,
(04:20):
and that's the reason why so many news publications were
also speculating that that was going to be the name.
How pissed off would you be? You know, you've done
everything to keep it under wraps. You've kept the suspense up,
you've dripped fetters the gender. You're waiting to make this
grand reveal at Tommy's fight, and then your father in
law is just telling everyone that we listen what I
with dads wanting to do that. I know our dad
(04:42):
was so keen, Like as soon as I gave birth
to Harry, He's like, when can I put it up
on Facebook? And I was like, Dad, I'm still in
hospital and I just want to get a nice family
photo together. For days, for David, can I announce it? Oh,
I'm in a media band on Facebook. It's like, why,
why can't you wait for the person to announce their news. Well, actually,
we were at a baby shower over the weekend and
(05:04):
hates father in law. He got up to do a speech,
which was lovely, but he then said, oh, Am, I
allowed to say the name, and they're like, oh, how
did you feel about the fact that it was just
Tommy who announced the name, Like, I know Molly was
in the crowd, but it was all very much about him. Yeah,
it's obvious there was a lot of strategy behind this
name revealed, which doesn't sit as well with me. I mean,
(05:26):
it's quite clear that this is a business decision for him,
because he told media a few days ago that the
name would be revealed at his fight, and it definitely
drummed up a lot of attention for it. A lot
more extra eyeballs were on that game. I saw a
lot of tiktoks of women who never watched fighting literally
tuning in because they just wanted to be the first
(05:48):
to see the name. And obviously the more people who
tune in, the more money the sport makes, the more
money he makes. So I mean it did seem to
be very strategic. He was also posting a lot of
links on his Instagram stories for people to pay to
watch the fight, so it is clear that he was
trying to make as much money as possible. I mean,
perhaps he's thinking, if I'm in this training camp whilst
(06:09):
my son is a newborn, I need to make it
worth it on a monetary sense. Yeah, surely he must
have been incentivized to do this. I'm guessing he gets
a larger cut of the profits if more people pay
for the fight. Yeah, I'm not really sure how it works.
I mean, it's sort of like the modern day magazine spread.
Instead of giving a magazine the exclusive, he's giving the
(06:29):
boxing world the exclusive. I mean, it does make sense
for him to announce it because it's quite clear that
he was the one pushing for a second child and
he really wanted a boy. So I think for him,
this is a pretty big moment because I think he
is expecting his son to follow in his footstep. So
that is why I think this name was more so
about him than it was about Molly. It just cracks
me up so much that so many of the men
(06:51):
watching the fight would have pretended like they didn't give
a shit what the name was, and then they had
to sit there with their girlfriends craning over them as
Tommy Fury dances on stage for like two minutes with
midas across him, like just fucking hilarious. I love that
he also had Bambie on the back as well, keeping
it fair. I mean at one point he had their elephant.
What's elephant? Carter, Come, I can't remember Ellie Belly? Ellie Belly. Yeah,
(07:14):
so she used to be on all of his boxing gear.
The Ellie Belly logo was next to Bambie's name. Ah,
He's keeping it fair between all three of them. What
I want to talk about, though, is the fact that
Molly May was at this match what like a week
after having a child, and not only was she there,
she was looking incredible. She was wearing a white, tight dress.
(07:36):
It would have been every woman's nightmare. A lot of
listeners were sliding into our DM saying, how is she
wearing white this close to giving birth? Because how does
she not bleed all over herself? My anxiety couldn't deal
with her. I haven't worn white pants and had a
period since watching that episode of de Grassy back in
year nine where that poor girl's white pants got covered
in blood, Like imagine being on that stage. There have
(07:56):
been a lot of comparisons over the past couple of
years to Molly May Princess Diana due to the big
breakup and it being sort of rolling coverage in the UK.
It sort of reminded me of a princess just being
put out to the public so soon after giving birth
and having to look perfect, because I mean, there would
have been a lot of smoke and mirrors going on
behind the scenes. Like I just think that there was
(08:18):
probably a lot of stress on her to come out
and look good after that, and I feel bad for her.
That would have been an absolute nightmare. And also she
would have known that everyone would be commenting one about
the name, what she looked like. I've already seen so
many tiktoks going viral of interactions between Tommy and Molly
after the fight and everyone's like, ah, he doesn't look
that into her. It's like he has just stepped out
(08:40):
of the ring. He's sweaty af and she probably didn't
want him touching her white dress. She would have felt
extra pressure as well, because it was only a few
weeks ago that she got trolled on TikTok for her
appearance at Venezuela's wedding when she obviously had some visible
roots and a black outfit which was apparently a big
folk I was speculating, they are like, maybe the baby
(09:01):
was born three to four weeks ago, because we don't
know the specific date. Just going back to the name quickly,
we touched on the fact that Midas is a shoe
brand and also a tire brand in Manchester, where Molly
and Tommy are from. It's also the acronym of the
Manchester Integrated Drug and Alcohol Service, so a lot of
people from Manchester were having a laugh about that. They're like,
(09:22):
no way, people were always going to find something like
that have a bit of a laugh about, weren't they.
I mean, especially when it's a bit of an unusual name.
It was really funny because one of our listeners wrote
in and said that they actually preferred Bambido, which cracked
me up. Look, I think in the long run, Midas
will grow on a lot of us. Now getting back
to Tommy's fight, some of his comments leading into it
have annoyed a lot of Molly's fans, including myself. There
(09:45):
is a clip of him talking about how he needed
Molly to essentially leave him alone for ten weeks while
he trained for the fight. Now, those ten weeks happened
to be when she was heavily pregnant and then gave birth,
not to mention the first week of the newborn son's life.
And it feels like history repeating itself because when Molly
gave birth to Bambi in twenty twenty three, Tommy was
(10:07):
fighting Jake Paul. Now, let's take it. Listen to what
Tommy said in the lead up to his fight Molly.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
They said Molly was missing by the end of the day,
Let's keep having a nice life and nice holidays and
nice things. And it's got me done. I mean, and
it's good because she Stanza and she's never give me
a problem in draining and company once and that's a
that's all I'm asked for. Peace. I've got ten weeks
so we can train, get a job done. Come on.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
The weirdest thing to me was the journalist simply asked him,
are you missing Molly? He could have just said, yeah,
I'm really missing her and the babies, but you know,
excited for this boxing match. She didn't have to go
into the fact that he had to be there for
the nice you know, so they could have nice holidays
and all of that sort of stubbers is bizarre. Also, like, oh,
(10:56):
just just give me some peace. The woman's pregnant, she
needs your support. I mean, this clip really got under
my skin because it sort of gave off this vibe
that Molly is just this subservient wife waiting at home
for Tommy, when in reality she earns more money than him.
I mean, her estimated net worth is twenty million dollars.
She featured in Forbes as under thirty last year, and
(11:18):
I mean it would have been bolsted even more with
a recent added ass deal. And also the fact that
her clothing brand Maybe is doing exceptionally well. And let's
remember that when she first launched Maybe and it was
meant to be all about her and her brand, did
she have a few weeks of quiet. No, she had
the huge breakup going on with Tommy Fury. When does
he ever let her have a moment to herself. It's
(11:39):
absolutely ridiculous. Look to be fair, I think that whole
debarker was actually quite good for her clothing brand, and
it got a lot of people buying. But I mean,
if you look at Tommy's net worth, he is estimated
to be worth ten million dollars, so that's half of
what Molly is. He apparently had his biggest payday on Saturday,
so he earned two point five million pounds before sponsorship
(11:59):
for the fight. So I mean, obviously he's earned a
lot of money offered, but could he just you know,
work on the timing a little bit. Why does it
always have to be around the time that his child's born.
I also don't think it helps that there's another awkward
clip of Tommy circulating on TikTok so. In this video,
he's at a press conference and a journalist asks him
to choose between Molly May and boxing, And what cracked
(12:22):
me up is they actually had points of reference on
the table, So they had a boxing glove to symbolize boxing,
of course, and then they had their own Ellie belly
on the table to symbolize Molly May. Like the thought
of the journalists having to go down and find their
own Ellie belly. Now, let's take a listen to what
Tommy said.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Ah, that is a tough one, isn't it. Your two
loves really, isn't it. Yeah, boxing life and then I
suppose the start of that love alngel, but really your
family life everything you just don't have a baby as well. Yeah,
it's definitely as tough one because without this I probably
wouldn't have gone on the show. And then obviously this
is my whole life, so one's led to the other.
(13:03):
So to be honest with you, they are just as important,
you know, as each other. But right now, two kids
in years in I would say it's got to be this.
You know, nothing, no sport or anything is more important
than your family and your kids because everything that you
do now is for them, and before it was just this.
But then when this comes along, it's a no contest.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think he took way too long to make. He
should have immediately been Molly may. I mean, one of
the top comments on TikTok was shouldn't be a tough choice,
which got over fourteen thousand likes. I know who I'd
be picking. I know it was so awkward, especially and
he's like, well, you couldn't have this without this, and
it's like, oh my god, just say mate, that wasn't
the question. The mother of your child is more important.
(13:45):
To you for goodness sake. I mean, can you imagine
the hormones that are racing through her body when she's
just had a child. Like I just imagine Zoe Ray
Molly's sister watching that, just be like fuck it, I'm
going to get him. But also is this you know,
like we've spoken before about how men take questions so
yet truly like just answer from the emotional perspective. Your wife, well,
(14:06):
your fiance. Isabel mathis fiance Harry has bravely opened up
about a debilitating health issue he's been struggling with for
the last two years. The model shared the news just
two weeks out from one of his biggest surgeries to
help solve the issue. Now, this isn't the first time
that we have featured Harry on the podcast, so back
in February, we discussed the full circle moment of his
(14:30):
engagement to Isabel Mathers. So they actually first met on
Instagram after he commented under one of her photos saying
marry me. A few months earlier. We also spoke about
how he and Isabel had recently purchased fellow influencer Ellie
Watson's Gold Coast Hinterland mansion for over five million dollars.
So as an outsider, things looked really great in their life.
(14:52):
It look like they were living the dream. But unfortunately
that wasn't the case. So this week he opened up
on his Instagram story about a chronic health issue there's
greatly been impacting his life. So back in May twenty
twenty four, he went to hospital with what he described
as a literal pain in the art so he was
diagnosed with a perineal abscess. However, that has now developed
(15:15):
into a chronic complex anal fistula that runs through his
internal and external sphincter muscles. Now, thankfully this condition is
not life threatening, but obviously it can be really debilitating
and painful. Now. Harry said he's had multiple surgeries and
procedures over the last two years, but there is still
no finish line in sight.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
As we mentioned, he is set to have his biggest
surgeries soon, which comes with significant risks. I just take
my hat off to him for opening up about this though,
because he said that this has been very difficult for
him to talk about publicly. He wrote that he's been
reluctant to talk about it because it's uncomfortable, emasculating and invasive.
He wanted to say that it's been a massive not
(15:57):
to his confidence too. He said there's been when he
can't walk properly, can't stand upright, sit comfortably, and has
to wear an adult diaper because of constant drainage from
the wound. That that is just horrendous. That's all good
on him for talking about it, because there would be
so many other men who experience similar conditions to this,
or things that they might deem is embarrassing. The fact
(16:19):
that he's opened up about that will give other people
the confidence to do so. I think it's really amazing
that he's opened up about it, Amy, because, as you say,
I'm sure that there are many people who can relate
to what he's going through and also that feeling of
embarrassment around it. I've seen a lot of amazing women
like Sophie Edwards and also Kelly Finlayson talking about their
experience with bow cancer and having to wear adult nappies,
(16:41):
and it's just something that people shouldn't be ashamed of.
And it's really important to open up the conversation about
these things because if people are too embarrassed to talk
about it, then they're not going to get treatment for it. Now,
it seems like Harry's announcement was in response to questions
he's been receiving about his apparel business, Saint Cole.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
He admitted it's part of the reason why he and
his business have gone quiet, but said he's still managed
to grow the brand, get a warehouse by his dream home,
and propose to his dream woman while he's been dealing
with his health issues. As you said, no one would
have known any of this was going on.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He did say that he had planned to talk about
it when he was over the condition, but said it
just never seemed to be over. Now. In some good news,
he said he's back working at his business and has
a studio opening soon now. Off the back of Harry's update,
Isabel shared her own with her two million followers. So
She said Harry's health issues have been the reason why
(17:38):
she's been quiet over the last couple of years. She
said watching her fiance go through this has changed her
and been the hardest years of her life. She said
it caused her to experience anxiety for the first time
in her life. Oh, it just sounds like it's been
a really tough time for them, and I just hope
that he's on his way to recovery, because this just
sounds horrendous to be dealing with.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Do you know that healing isn't measured by how long
you stay single?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you know that Tammy Hembro has hit out a
claims she's moved on too quickly following her divorce from Mattzakowski.
The og influencer claims her latest relationship with twenty three
year old model Grayson t Mowana has helped her heal
so much so the couple have even discussed having children together.
(18:24):
Oh my goodness, this is a bit of a bombshell,
isn't it now. She was very defensive in her latest
TikTok and it comes off the back of Grayson clapping
back at her followers just last week, to refresh your memories,
he uploaded a photo alongside Tammy and rode you wouldn't
get it. And it's kind of giving similar vibes to
her past relationship with Mattzakowski, where it's sort of us
(18:46):
against their mentality. Everyone's got it wrong about us. Because
she is putting across this view on TikTok that she's
very certain of her new boyfriend despite the large age difference.
So in a recent TikTok, she labeled him the right
person with the right timing and the right everything. You
can just tell that her audience are apprehensive about Grayson.
(19:08):
So the top comment on her TikTok was Tammy, we
are tired and so am I. I feel like every
week there is something going on with these two. Or
someone else wrote what is this tenth time lucky, to
which Tammy responded, imagine letting previous heartbreak stop you from
falling in love now. Another person commented until it's not
(19:30):
with a laughing face, to which Tammy replied, and if
it's not, I'll survive that too. You can tell that
Tammy and Grayson are trying to put on this united
front because they've been replying to a lot of their
naysayers with the same type of comments. So Grayson shared
a video walking hand in hand with Tammy with the
caption just want to make this girl the happiest she's
(19:51):
ever been now. Tammy wrote under this video, what the
hell you're so cute now? Grayson then shared another video
of the couple in a fi booth with the caption
the intimacy is the fact that nobody knows how our
relationship really is. If you really feel that way, why
can't you just tell her that instead of having to
put it up publicly, like write it in a letter,
(20:13):
send it to her as a text. Why do you
have to put it up? You're putting it up because
you've got something to gain out of it. You're trying
to look like a good guy. You're trying to gain
a following by sharing about your famous girlfriend. Like I
don't think this is as nice and cute as Tabby thinks.
What other normal twenty three year old guy would be
posting like this on TikTok about a girl that he's dating,
Like most twenty three year olds don't even want to
(20:35):
say that they're inner committed relationship, like they're too busy
playing in a field, Like this is not real life. No, Well,
someone wrote, bro, your body language has been very telling,
so let's see, to which Grayson replied, ha ha, I
do apologize. I have really weird body language, but I
assure you I love her very much. Weird If someone
else commented protect her man, she just wanted a love story,
(20:57):
to which Grayson replied, I got Hugh, I can't even
pronounce that propertly. I got you choose you have got
Jus Valentine. Oh my god. They really are trying to
prove their relationship, aren't they. I mean, the video wrapped
up eight hundred and ninety thousand views, which I mean
he'd be absolutely stoked about. That's what he was trying
to do. And now they often say that the people
who shout about their relationships the most on social media
(21:18):
are the ones in the most awful relationships. I mean,
I hope that's not the case for Tammy. I, like
everyone else, want to see Tammy in a lovely relationship.
But I'm just concerned, Like we're all concerned. Well, despite
these desperate attempts to prove to everyone how in love
they are, Tammy uploaded a very defensive TikTok on Thursday,
(21:38):
telling her followers that healing and falling in love aren't
mutually exclusive. Let's take a listen to some of what
she said.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They get the comment all the time, goal you need
to say single and heal. Here's my thoughts on that,
because I find it very interesting because I was single
a year after my last breakup, right, and the thing
for me is that healing it's not like there's not
some magical finish line where you're like, oh yeah, I'm healed.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Like that does not exist. So to think that.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Healing and like falling in love are mutually exclusive, just
find that crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I find it funny that she thinks being single for
a year is like this huge length of time. Well,
she did go on to say that there was a
period of time where she was single for sixties. I mean,
I think it was from the age of zero to
six child but no, so she said that she learned
more in the year she was single after her last
relationship than she did in the six years that she
(22:36):
was single. Sorry, but what did she learn because she
literally jumped into a relationship with Matt Zakowski, got engaged
after a couple of weeks and was in what she
describes as a toxic relationship or did she She was
very defensive, that's in this video. I mean she does
get defensive about the guy, like she gets deep in
these relationships. I mean, well, it seems like things have
(22:57):
turned serious because as we touched on, is already talking
about baby. So during an interview with nine dot com,
she said, I always said I would never have more
kids because I'm like, I've been there, done that. I've
done the most, but my partner's never had twenty three.
I'm like, you want me, you want me to give
you some babies. He is a kid, she said. I
love being a mamma, and I feel like if it
(23:18):
feels right, I'm not saying yes, no, nothing. It was
a big no for a minute there. I guess it
just depends on the person. Well, that's one way to
get out of the honeymoon period very quickly, as by
popping out another child. Grayson, please God, listen please. I
mean they're not saying that they're going to have a
(23:39):
baby right away, but obviously they've been discussing it. Tammy
also revealed that Grayson has the tick of approval from
her mum and sisters, which I don't know if I
believe this. So she said, I will always listen to
my sisters and my friends and my mum, and they
all love my new boyfriend. So that's get him on
the podcast. Get him on the Sisters podcast. We want
to see what the dynamic is life. Tammy was really
(24:01):
spilling her guts in this interview with nine, though she
even touched on that shady post that her ex fiance
and baby daddy Reyese Hawkins did recently where he made
a dig about having bad taste in women's She said
he called me right away after he posted and was like,
by the way, that's not about you. Why did she
comment on the post? Then? Was that just so that
she could have him publicly right percent because everyone would
(24:22):
have read into that and gone, he's talking about Tammy,
So that's why she had to be like because she
wrote something like a bit rude, which prompted him to respond, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Well.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
She went on to say with Reese, I'm always just
being happy keeping the peace. But me and him we've
been through a lot together from years and years ago,
so it's nice that we're friends now. We're at a
good place. So when he posted that, I was like,
excuse me, bit rude, and he was like, I'm sorry,
that's definitely not about you. Justin mckeinn has pleaded guilty
to fraud, admitting he stole almost half a million dollars
(24:52):
from his employer while working as head of finance for
Rocket Brands, Amy, can you tell us more? Yeah, Well,
this is big because this is the first time we
have actually heard Justin admit guilt So back in March
he was charged with over one hundred fraud related charges
and this was after a fifteen month police investigation. Now
those charges have now effectively been rolled into one larger charge,
(25:17):
and that is of obtaining financial advantage by deception. Now
this is pretty common in Ford cases where there are
lots of transactions. Now we did learn from this court
appearance of sorts that Justin is living back home in
Perth because he appeared in court via a video link.
He is yet to be sentenced, but the charge carries
(25:39):
a maximum penalty of ten years in jail. That is huge.
I mean the fact that he has pleaded guilty early
that is going to work in his favor, as will
his previously good character. Now Justin will remain on bail,
but he must stay in Perth as he is barred
from leaving the country. He is also not allowed to
contact any witnesses. Meanwhile, his former employer Rocket is trying
(26:02):
to recover the money that Justin stole, so he is
currently facing bankruptcy proceedings because he hasn't repaid the money
back yet.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Give me yes out to minute nine left in the
game and then I rested it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, many we need to talk about Taylor Swift's appearance
at Game four of the NBA Finals. So she was
courtside with the Hame sisters to cheer on the Knicks,
and the action off court was just as interesting as
it was on court. This must have been an absolute
nightmare for the Knicks ticketing staff because there were that
(26:43):
many celebrities trying to get tickets from them that they
had to rank the celebrities in level of importance for
who was going to sit front row. Taylor Swift was,
of course front row. She was never going to be
anywhere but front row, and it must have felt like
such a moral victory for her because photos came out
showing her nemesis, Scooter Braun sitting a couple of rows
(27:05):
behind her. Now, this is a big move, particularly because
he was with his mega famous girlfriend Sydney Sweeney, who
should have been front rope. She would have been so
pissed off her. Well, they've actually come out and claimed
that they were sitting a few rows back because their
family was there. They wanted to sit with their family apparently, Yeah, yeah, yeah, bullshit.
(27:25):
This is just them trying to save face and being like,
we're just her. It's not because of Taylor Swift that
we're back here. Well, a lot of people, including Taylor's fans,
have been saying that she was actually quite obnoxious at
the game. I mean, I love everything Taylor Swift does,
so I am not saying this at all, but maybe
she was hamming things up a little bit because she
knew that Scooter could see her on the big screen.
(27:47):
She like, look who I'm here with? This would have
been me? This would have been me. Like someone is
there that you hate and you've had a bit of
a moral victory and then you end up acting like
a bit of a dickhead. Yes, And like, I mean,
it felt like she on the wines, wasn't it? Like
this was drug Taylor. I thought she was there with
the girls this time instead of Travis Kelsey because a
(28:07):
lot of people were saying that the way Travis acted
at that game was just not on the last Nick
game dumber. He downed a can of beer in front
of the camera, and you could tell that Taylor looked
a little bit embarrassed by it. But to be fair,
she was kind of doing the same thing, you know,
like she was loud and proud and out there drunk
like maybe she's trying to be like, I can do
(28:29):
it too, and this isn't an ick to me. We're
both on level playing fields here. I saw a lot
of people comparing when you go to a game with
your partner as opposed to your girlfriends, and how much
extra fun you have with them as opposed to the
old bowl and chain. One thing that blew my mind
was that Taylor was sitting next to the actress who
plays Olivia Benson on Law and Order. And any Taylor
(28:51):
Swift fan will know that Taylor loves her character so
much that she named her cat after her. It must
have been so much fun to be there, because I
feel like Taylor is a bit of a shit stir
so she would have loved the fact that she's seeing
these celebrities that she loves, but also these ones that
she hates because she loves nothing more than revenge. And
that's why I was extra surprised to see videos of
(29:12):
her hugging Kylie Jenna. So, I mean, maybe she thought
that she Kylie Jenner was the lesser of two evils.
So Kylie was sitting courtside with her boyfriend and actor
Timothy Chalomay and after the game, Taylor and Kylie were
spotted walking past each other before stopping to hug. Now
it was Taylor who actually initiated the interaction, so she
(29:33):
waved at Kylie and reached out for a hug, and
Kylie was very friendly. She said hi, and then said
how crazy the game was. Now, this is, of course,
off the back of Taylor's ten year feud with her
sister Kim kardash In. I mean, it was only a
couple of years ago that she wrote that song about
Kim's husband was asking me. He's like, so, why was
everyone making such a big deal about Taylor Swift hugging
(29:56):
Kylie Jenner? Like why do they have beef? And I
had to go into the whole Kanye West song and
blah blah blah. Look, dear, there's a big story here.
I don't know how long we've called, but yeah, I
mean everyone says that Chris Jenna works harder than the Devil,
so I feel like she has been working NonStop behind
the scenes to get things right between Taylor and the
Kardashians because it is better for their brand. We need
(30:19):
to talk about the custom T shirts that Taylor and
her crew were wearing, so they were rocking these blue
T shirts with ironic Nick's related slogans on them. So
Taylor's read Stevie Nicks and it turns out that these
were a very cheap at home job. So one of
the Haym sisters apparently bought the T shirts for two
ninety nine and she screened painted the phrases of well
(30:41):
with orange ink. I love this. Yeah, they looked really cool.
How many people are going to be recreating these? Well,
it was actually Taylor who requested the T shirt, so
she texts Alana Haym and said, look, I want to
wear a Stevie Nicks shirt to the game, and said
could you make this happen? And Alana responded, I thought
you would never ask this is my dream if this
was me. If she'd asked me, how would rushed out
and bought like the most expensive screen printing device to
(31:04):
make these T shirts? Or I would have satin hand
sewn the shirts together like I love that. This girl's
probably been like that didn't take me long at all.
I only spent three dollars on a T shirt, Babe,
You're probably up all night perfecting it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
There has been a lot of commentary. I feel like
in a lot of male circles that Taylor Swift isn't
really an expand she shouldn't be at the game making
a dick of herself. It's because they're also cut that
she was at all of the Chiefs games. You're like,
that's fucking present. Now she's on our basketball, She's integrating
herself into this, Like what the hell? I think that's
why she was being quite obnoxious, though, I feel like
(31:38):
it was a bit of a finger up on all
of the male sports, some of it. Now it is
quite funny because one of the NBA's commentators has had
to come out and apologize for saying that Taylor wasn't
a Knicks fan, because, of course, when the statement was made,
the swift Is came with their receipts. And it turns
out that Taylor declared her love for the Knicks publicly
in a twenty fourteen Time magazine interview. She said she'd
(32:01):
love the team since she performed at a halftime kids
talent competition when she was twelve, and at the time
she developed a friendship with a knickstar whose name I
cannot pronounce because I'm not a niche for what I
reckon that. It's around the same time that the movie
How To Lose a Guy in Ten Days came out,
and that's where Andy Anderson, the main character, famously went
(32:21):
to the k next game and she asked Matthew McConaughey's
character to go get her a diet coke just as
they're about to shoot the winning score. Well that was
when we were twelve. I swear that came out when
we were twelve, So I feel like a lot of
maybe people, I mean we if anyone asks us. Prior
to the Knicks even winning, we used to say that
the Knicks were our favorite because we got Knicks jerseys
(32:43):
because we loved that movie so much. It's just a
millennial moment, isn't it. I mean, Hailey Bieber was in
the crowd rocking the vintage gray Knicks jumper that Jennifer
Aniston wore on Friends. So there were a lot of
pop culture moments within that game. Yeah, I reckon. Kate
sent a screenshot through and was like, where do I
get this from? I've been looking for the Knicks hats.
I think it's like the forty seven brand, like the hat. Look,
(33:05):
I reckon, they'll be solder. Yeah, yeah, I know all
the bandwagon jumpers. Excuse me, Sophie, I will have it
that I have been a fan of the Knicks since
I was twelve, and if you go into my closet now,
I have pretended to like them since I just to
actually have a Knicks jersey in my closet. So f you,
everyone wanted to cosplay being Andy Anderson, didn't they? Because
(33:27):
everyone loves Matthew McConaughey. Now, on that note, that is
all we have time for today. Thank you so much
for joining us for this episode. If you have enjoyed it,
could you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple
Podcasts and also Spotify. And I want to officially wish
my son Luca happy first birthday. This episode is coming
out on the sixteenth, his birthday. I can't believe it.
Congratulations Sophie for getting through a year of motherhood as well.
(33:49):
I feel like this day is just as much about
you as it is about Luca. Frust yourself, frust myself. Yeah,
it is a very special day and one that has
come with a lot of emotions. Last night, I was
looking through all of my newborn photos of Lucre and
feeling a bit teary, but yeah, we're going to have
such a fun day with him. And yeah, I can't
believe it's been a year a year since we did
(34:09):
our birth stories as well, so so exciting. Well, if
you did enjoy this episode of Outspoken, we would love
if you could go and leave us a five star review.
Sophie will be reading the review just as an FYI.
I will. Please don't kind, please don't make that encourage
you to make it extra meat. I mean that in it. Yeah. Also,
this episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
Garda people of the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to
(34:32):
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