June 8, 2026 • 16 mins
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On today's show...Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw open up about the state of their friendship. Reece Hawkins takes a swipe at ex Tammy Hembrow. And Kate Cassidy's epic airport fail.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken Plus. It's your extra dose
of the hottest influencer and pop culture news.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Sophie Torber.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I'm Kate Torber and coming up on today's show,
Kate Cassidy's epic airport fail and the state of Steph
Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw's friendship. But first, Reese Hawkins
has backflipped on his playful swipe at his ex fiance
and baby mama Tammy Hembro. He shared a photo of
himself smoking with the caption caffeine and cigarettes are going
(00:32):
to ruin your heart? Have you seen my taste in women?
I'll be four. This post got people talking clearly because
it had two point four thousand send ons. I mean
it's a bit of a burn, isn't it? To his
ex Tammy Hembro. Yeah, well, she was quick to jump in.
She wrote I beg your finest pardon, which got over
six thousand likes. Now Reecee quickly responded, writing just a joke.
(00:53):
We besties. It's a bit of a low blow because
his most high profile relationship has been with Tammy Hembro.
I mean he could also be referring to London going
as well. Things didn't seem to end very nicely there. Well,
he was married to London. I mean the awkward thing
is he's actually got children with both of the women,
so you would think you would kind of steer clear
of it. To me, this just looks like an attempt
(01:14):
to build engagement and it's clearly worked. I mean, it
appears that Tammy and Rees have quite an amicable relationship.
They seem to joke around. It's funny because most of
the comments underneath the post were calling for the pair
to get back together. Everyone's like, when's it happening. Yeah,
Because at the start of the year, Outspoken was reporting
first that there was some photos taken by citizen journalists
that got sent in to us of them canoodling on
(01:35):
the beach. We were asked so many times to release
those photos, and we chose not to because their kids
were in the photos. It was a little bit awkward.
This post gives me a bit of an ick though.
That being said, Tammy is guilty of producing a lot
of content like this just to get engagement. Well, maybe
they're perfect for each other because they seem both as
intention seeking as one another.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
O Kate, But she's found that in her latest boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
True, but I don't know I would actually to see
her end up with Reese. I mean, I don't really
think that this relationship with Grayson's gonna last much longer.
I just think she's going to be an Elizabeth Taylor
kind of person, because I really think that she loves
the start of a relationship and she is very romantic.
She romanticizes some absolute douchebags. It was funny because Matt
Szakowski jumped on this same trend as Reeese Hawkins and
(02:19):
posted a video about, you know, his taste in women.
But I actually can't find it, so I'm guessing maybe
he deleted it because of some sort of backlash and
people like stop talking about Tammy. And he also recently
posted a real where he was saying that at this
stage in his dating life he would actually be happy
to be love bombed and enjoy that kind of relationship
(02:39):
for a couple of months, but then break up and
not sort of go through the rest of it, which
was clearly in reference to what happened with his relationship
with Tammy. I wonder if he's been watching off campus too.
I feel like there's been a lot of us who
had been watching it and like, oh, that spark the
start of the relationship. I mean, I don't really have
him down for off campus because he loves horror movies,
so I think he loves all TV to be fair,
maybe not the the teen girl sort of drama things,
(03:02):
but we'll see who might do a review. Who knows.
Laura Henshaw has apologized for being two business Focus following
the birth of Steph Claire Smith's first child, Harvey. The
former Kick CEO, admitted it wasn't until she became a
mother herself that she understood what Steph was going through. God,
that sounds relatable. Laura went as far as saying she
(03:22):
acted like they see und I think this is a
pretty common feeling for a lot of new mums. I
know when I had Luca, I just had this sudden
urge to literally apologize to every single one of my
friends who had kids before me, because you finally understand
what they've been going through. I think that as much
as people try and tell you what they've gone through,
(03:43):
until you've lived it, you really truly can't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Can you.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
As one of the recipients of that apology, God felt
sweet when I got it, because leading into the birth
of your son, my husband and I had countless discussions.
Well I think it was more of a pep talk
from him to me, being like, it's okay, they're gonna
get it and this is my other sister Amy included,
and they'll apologize and you did so apology except did
you don't know until you're in the situation, do you see?
(04:08):
I think when I was pregnant, I just hated all
of the people saying just you wait, and I've literally
turned into that person.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
We have spoken a lot on the Mom's Group about
this concept of the apology to it, and it seems
like Laura Henshaw has been on one herself. So speaking
on their podcast, The Kickpod, the women were asked by
a listener if their friendship dynamic has changed since Laura
had a baby. And for some quick background, Laura gave
birth to her son Atlas in December, while Steph has
(04:36):
a five year old son called Harvey and a daughter
called Billy who's just turned one. And it was very
clear that Steph tried to choose her words very carefully.
She said that she thinks Laura has always been an
incredibly patient and supportive person, but prefaced to the level
you can be without being a parent yourself. I feel
(04:56):
like as she spoke more, the crack started to appear
and she was that word bomber. Yeah, it was. And
I found the whole conversation really interesting because it was
only I think a year or so ago when Laura
and Steph spoke about and let's call it for what
it clearly was a bit of a feud behind the scenes.
So from memory, I think they went on a little
(05:17):
bit of a retreat or something for their business, and
then I think they were in their prospective rooms with
their partners and basically how to fight, and their partners
were trying to resolve things. And I'm guessing it was
probably after hearing this conversation because Steph was just so
frustrated because it appears that Laura was on a completely
different page than her, like she was really wanting world
(05:39):
domination with Kick, like she wanted us to go global. Well,
they both said that since becoming parents, they've become closer
because they find it easier now that they're in the
same season of life.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And Laura did say.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That she doesn't think she did a very good job
when Steph first had Harvey and now feels a lot
of yuckiness about it. I mean, I could tell when
we was speaking that she genuinely does hold a lot
of guilt around the way she acted. And I think
it was really exacerbated by a recent phone call that
they had the night before they recorded this podcast, because
Steph was opening up to Laura about how different her
(06:14):
breastfeeding journey had been with her two kids. So she
has just finished breastfeeding her one year old Billy, and
she said that it felt different this time because she
was in control of her decision to stop, whereas with
her son Harvey, she had no choice to stop because
she was expected to be back in the office working
five days a week. And this was all happening in
(06:35):
twenty twenty one when Kick was experiencing this major growth
because during the pandemic there was this huge demand for
at home fitness plans, and their business reportedly had a
ninety one percent increase in revenue over a two year
period and a sixty percent growth in its customer base.
So they actually revealed on this podcast, but at the
time there was this huge carrot dangling over their heads
(06:57):
and they were told if they went really high for
the next year, they would in turn unlock this extra
level of freedom in their lives. So it actually seems
like that's the level of freedom that they're experiencing now,
because it sounds like their work life balance is a
lot different now they have the opportunity to be home
with their kids a lot more. See. I interpreted that
differently because they made a comment that they're glad that
(07:20):
they didn't go down that path because it's something that
they think they wouldn't have actually wanted, And I took
that as that they were trying to be bought out
and that they were no longer going to be involved
in the business, a little bit like what happened with
Kayla with Sweat originally. I mean, she's bought Sweat back now,
but I think at that time, businesses were being snapped
up by these big corporations, and I think they're probably
(07:42):
glad that they can hold onto their business, which they've
referenced is like their baby, but still run it and
not have to work as many days in the office. Yeah,
it sounded like maybe they had a huge investor who
wanted to take things globally and have them as the
face of the business and eventually buy them out. But then,
as you say, they decided no, they want to have
control over their business, and maybe they just hired more
(08:04):
people to make it easier for them. I mean, Laura
stepped down as the CEO of Kick right before Atlas
was born, so it just seems like they have a
really good team around them.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I found this little nugget the Steph dropped really interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So she told this story on the podcast about how
she and her husband Josh were out at dinner with
Laura and Dalton and another couple who had just moved
to the UK, and at the time, Steph was pregnant
with Billy, so that would have meant that this dinner
was either late twenty twenty four or early twenty twenty five,
and off the back of their joint friends moving overseas,
(08:37):
Laura and Dalton announced at this dinner that they were
thinking about living in New York for the following year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
For around six months. Let's take a listen to what Steph.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Said, and Josh and I were just like sitting there nodding,
being like, yeah, we just bought a property out like
an hour away from the city, about to settle down
and in Royal Harvey in primary school. Like it was
just so weird because we were like sitting there nodding
and smiling, being like, fuck, we are lives apart like
from this crew right now, but still like so excited
for you both in everything you were telling us. But yeah,
(09:07):
we walked over from that dinner being like, whoa, our
lives are very different. I mean, fast forward. You then
had the surprise of your life and that you know
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, is this sort of code for we went
home and had a big bitch about how out of
touch you are and what separate lives we're living. I
mean yes, but I think bitch has a negative connotation.
I think it would have been more like, oh my gosh,
like an envious thing, like can you believe that they
can even consider that, because when you're a parent, you
can't even fathom the stuff that you're like, I should
have done that, and I should have done that, and
(09:37):
all the time that you had. I wonder if they
had plans to expand the business to the US and
Laura was going to go and set up that arm
of the business over there. I mean that makes sense
considering like she can't really up and leave when she's
got the business there. It's interesting because a lot of
their marketing was targeted towards the UK. They did quite
a few trips there a couple of years ago, and
they seem to be really booming there, so perhaps America
(09:59):
was their next. Liam Payne's girlfriend, Kay Cassidy, has broken
down after an embarrassing or deal at the airport. Now,
she travels through airports a lot. This time she was
on her way home to see her sister graduate college,
and she explained on her TikTok that she was standing
in line at the airport's security waiting to go through.
She got to the front of the line, handed her
(10:20):
passport to the officer and he proceeded to run at
the facial recognition technology. So this is where they take
a live photo of you and then the computer converts
it into a digital face print to see if it
is you in your passport photo. Now, she was expecting
to get the green light to say she could go through,
but she got the red light, and this led more
officers to come over and investigate.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
This is what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Next, phone calls over a woman and she literally looks
my passport. She looks at me. She's literally doing her
double tekly up and down, up and down. And this
woman literally keeps going on and on and on about
how this isn't Neil, You're giving me somebody else's passport.
New nose, new lips, something to your eyes, new hair.
(11:04):
I pull out my ID, She looks my ID, she
looks my passwork, she looks at me, she goes one,
two or three? Whose are three different people?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And literally so embarrass God, I feel so sorry for Kate,
Like I can actually feel myself burning up and sweating
just thinking about this happening to you. It got even worse, though,
because the agent ended up calling over three more of
her colleagues to look at the passport. Yeah, and one
asked her, oh, do you have an ID that we
can compare your passport photo too. She actually offered to
(11:35):
pull up her Instagram account, which I don't think is legal,
so they didn't accept that. She just said it was
such a humiliating experience as everyone behind her was listening in.
I mean imagine the person saying, oh, all three of
these photos don't look like you. You've literally had so
much work done, we can't even recognize you. I get
that this is a security thing, but I think there's
(11:56):
a way of going about it. And to me, Kate's
recount just show that they were being really judgment like
I think they knew it was her, but they were
just trying to be like, oh, you've changed all of
these things, like to say, oh, new nose, new lips,
Like wouldn't you say different nos, different lips? I disagree.
I think that they were just doing their jobs. I mean,
airport's security is really important, and I mean she showed
(12:18):
her TikTok the picture of her passport photo, and to
be fair, she.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Did look like a completely different person in it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think all she needs to do is update her
passport photo. This is gonna really become a problem though,
because obviously with plastic surgery and different procedures being normalized,
people's faces are changing. And I mean, how long to
passport photos last? Now?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Is it still ten years or was it five years?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well, it just depends what passport you get. I think
you can get like a long term one for ten years,
and I think it's like three or five years. Obviously
you have to pay more if you want to update
your photo. I haven't really ever thought about it, but
I remember having an experience where I wished that I
was rejected from my passport because the photo was from
ten years earlier, and I think I was seventeen at
(13:00):
the time, and it was a incredibly unflattering photo. It
looked about twelve, and I was having to travel on
that passport as an adult, and I was like thinking,
how are people actually approving this? Like do I still
look like that? I remember there was this TikTok trend
where people were giving advice on how to take the
perfect passport or driver's license photo and how to look
(13:21):
glam in it, and I was thinking, I actually don't
want to have a really glamorous passport photo because, knowing me,
I travel looking like absolute crap when I go through
an airport, and I don't want people having this situation
where they're like, hold on, this isn't you what's going on? Yeah?
You want them to be pleasantly surprised, like, oh, she
scrubbed up well for a twenty four hour fly. Yeah.
There weren't actually that many people who felt sympathetic for
(13:41):
Kate Cassidy. A lot of people pointed out that the
airport's security were just doing their job. So one person wrote,
the woman is correct, she's just doing her job. The
photo doesn't match. Another said, I mean this in the
best way. It's time to.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Update the picture on the passport.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You're gorgeous in both, but there's a lot of differences,
and if I didn't know better, it does look like
a different person. I'm not saying how they treated you
was okay, but I can see why they asked for
additional IDs. You really have changed a bit since that photo.
Whilst another said they should have been more polite about it,
but in the heat of the moment, they were more
likely concerned with the safety and security of their airport
(14:17):
and keeping their jobs at a time when things are
so predictable, they likely were not thinking of your feelings.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I tend to think that they've hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
With those comments. I actually recently got my driver's license
photo updated because I changed my name, and it's so
weird now you're not allowed to smile in the photo,
and I found that really weird. I'm like, well why not. Yeah, Well,
they say that when you're pulled over, you're hardly going
to be smiling, particularly if you've been pulled over by police,
but I think it's stupid as well. One thing that
I've always wondered when we travel together is how can
(14:47):
the airport's security determine if we're traveling on each other's passports,
you know, being identical triplets, how could they tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I've always been tempted to.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
See if I could get through using one of yours.
I mean, I wonder with the increase in plastic surge
and feelers and all of that sort of stuff that
changes your face, whether we're going to see airport's move
to tracking fingerprints rather than facial recognition side now to
have to throw it in there any opportunity. I can
mention that we met Taylor Swift, but it was quite
(15:15):
funny because when she found out that we were triplets,
she told us that all triplets have the same fingerprints,
and no one wanted to correct her and say that, actually,
everyone in the world has different fingerprints. I think she'd
seen it on the pass at a crime show. Yeah,
to be fair to Taylor, I think it was a
storyline on one of the crime shows she watches. She's
a big crime show buffer me. Her cat is called
(15:35):
Olivia Benson, so let's give her credit there she gives
us compensation. Yeah, exactly right. Well, that is where we're
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I'm going to enough
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken Plus. It's your extra dose
of the hottest influencer and pop culture news.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Sophie Torber.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
And I'm Kate Torber and coming up on today's show,
Kate Cassidy's epic airport fail and the state of Steph
Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw's friendship. But first, Reese Hawkins
has backflipped on his playful swipe at his ex fiance
and baby mama Tammy Hembro. He shared a photo of
himself smoking with the caption caffeine and cigarettes are going
(00:32):
to ruin your heart? Have you seen my taste in women?
I'll be four. This post got people talking clearly because
it had two point four thousand send ons. I mean
it's a bit of a burn, isn't it? To his
ex Tammy Hembro. Yeah, well, she was quick to jump in.
She wrote I beg your finest pardon, which got over
six thousand likes. Now Reecee quickly responded, writing just a joke.
(00:53):
We besties. It's a bit of a low blow because
his most high profile relationship has been with Tammy Hembro.
I mean he could also be referring to London going
as well. Things didn't seem to end very nicely there. Well,
he was married to London. I mean the awkward thing
is he's actually got children with both of the women,
so you would think you would kind of steer clear
of it. To me, this just looks like an attempt
(01:14):
to build engagement and it's clearly worked. I mean, it
appears that Tammy and Rees have quite an amicable relationship.
They seem to joke around. It's funny because most of
the comments underneath the post were calling for the pair
to get back together. Everyone's like, when's it happening. Yeah,
Because at the start of the year, Outspoken was reporting
first that there was some photos taken by citizen journalists
that got sent in to us of them canoodling on
(01:35):
the beach. We were asked so many times to release
those photos, and we chose not to because their kids
were in the photos. It was a little bit awkward.
This post gives me a bit of an ick though.
That being said, Tammy is guilty of producing a lot
of content like this just to get engagement. Well, maybe
they're perfect for each other because they seem both as
intention seeking as one another.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
O Kate, But she's found that in her latest boyfriend.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
True, but I don't know I would actually to see
her end up with Reese. I mean, I don't really
think that this relationship with Grayson's gonna last much longer.
I just think she's going to be an Elizabeth Taylor
kind of person, because I really think that she loves
the start of a relationship and she is very romantic.
She romanticizes some absolute douchebags. It was funny because Matt
Szakowski jumped on this same trend as Reeese Hawkins and
(02:19):
posted a video about, you know, his taste in women.
But I actually can't find it, so I'm guessing maybe
he deleted it because of some sort of backlash and
people like stop talking about Tammy. And he also recently
posted a real where he was saying that at this
stage in his dating life he would actually be happy
to be love bombed and enjoy that kind of relationship
(02:39):
for a couple of months, but then break up and
not sort of go through the rest of it, which
was clearly in reference to what happened with his relationship
with Tammy. I wonder if he's been watching off campus too.
I feel like there's been a lot of us who
had been watching it and like, oh, that spark the
start of the relationship. I mean, I don't really have
him down for off campus because he loves horror movies,
so I think he loves all TV to be fair,
maybe not the the teen girl sort of drama things,
(03:02):
but we'll see who might do a review. Who knows.
Laura Henshaw has apologized for being two business Focus following
the birth of Steph Claire Smith's first child, Harvey. The
former Kick CEO, admitted it wasn't until she became a
mother herself that she understood what Steph was going through. God,
that sounds relatable. Laura went as far as saying she
(03:22):
acted like they see und I think this is a
pretty common feeling for a lot of new mums. I
know when I had Luca, I just had this sudden
urge to literally apologize to every single one of my
friends who had kids before me, because you finally understand
what they've been going through. I think that as much
as people try and tell you what they've gone through,
(03:43):
until you've lived it, you really truly can't appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Can you.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
As one of the recipients of that apology, God felt
sweet when I got it, because leading into the birth
of your son, my husband and I had countless discussions.
Well I think it was more of a pep talk
from him to me, being like, it's okay, they're gonna
get it and this is my other sister Amy included,
and they'll apologize and you did so apology except did
you don't know until you're in the situation, do you see?
(04:08):
I think when I was pregnant, I just hated all
of the people saying just you wait, and I've literally
turned into that person.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
We have spoken a lot on the Mom's Group about
this concept of the apology to it, and it seems
like Laura Henshaw has been on one herself. So speaking
on their podcast, The Kickpod, the women were asked by
a listener if their friendship dynamic has changed since Laura
had a baby. And for some quick background, Laura gave
birth to her son Atlas in December, while Steph has
(04:36):
a five year old son called Harvey and a daughter
called Billy who's just turned one. And it was very
clear that Steph tried to choose her words very carefully.
She said that she thinks Laura has always been an
incredibly patient and supportive person, but prefaced to the level
you can be without being a parent yourself. I feel
(04:56):
like as she spoke more, the crack started to appear
and she was that word bomber. Yeah, it was. And
I found the whole conversation really interesting because it was
only I think a year or so ago when Laura
and Steph spoke about and let's call it for what
it clearly was a bit of a feud behind the scenes.
So from memory, I think they went on a little
(05:17):
bit of a retreat or something for their business, and
then I think they were in their prospective rooms with
their partners and basically how to fight, and their partners
were trying to resolve things. And I'm guessing it was
probably after hearing this conversation because Steph was just so
frustrated because it appears that Laura was on a completely
different page than her, like she was really wanting world
(05:39):
domination with Kick, like she wanted us to go global. Well,
they both said that since becoming parents, they've become closer
because they find it easier now that they're in the
same season of life.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And Laura did say.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
That she doesn't think she did a very good job
when Steph first had Harvey and now feels a lot
of yuckiness about it. I mean, I could tell when
we was speaking that she genuinely does hold a lot
of guilt around the way she acted. And I think
it was really exacerbated by a recent phone call that
they had the night before they recorded this podcast, because
Steph was opening up to Laura about how different her
(06:14):
breastfeeding journey had been with her two kids. So she
has just finished breastfeeding her one year old Billy, and
she said that it felt different this time because she
was in control of her decision to stop, whereas with
her son Harvey, she had no choice to stop because
she was expected to be back in the office working
five days a week. And this was all happening in
(06:35):
twenty twenty one when Kick was experiencing this major growth
because during the pandemic there was this huge demand for
at home fitness plans, and their business reportedly had a
ninety one percent increase in revenue over a two year
period and a sixty percent growth in its customer base.
So they actually revealed on this podcast, but at the
time there was this huge carrot dangling over their heads
(06:57):
and they were told if they went really high for
the next year, they would in turn unlock this extra
level of freedom in their lives. So it actually seems
like that's the level of freedom that they're experiencing now,
because it sounds like their work life balance is a
lot different now they have the opportunity to be home
with their kids a lot more. See. I interpreted that
differently because they made a comment that they're glad that
(07:20):
they didn't go down that path because it's something that
they think they wouldn't have actually wanted, And I took
that as that they were trying to be bought out
and that they were no longer going to be involved
in the business, a little bit like what happened with
Kayla with Sweat originally. I mean, she's bought Sweat back now,
but I think at that time, businesses were being snapped
up by these big corporations, and I think they're probably
(07:42):
glad that they can hold onto their business, which they've
referenced is like their baby, but still run it and
not have to work as many days in the office. Yeah,
it sounded like maybe they had a huge investor who
wanted to take things globally and have them as the
face of the business and eventually buy them out. But then,
as you say, they decided no, they want to have
control over their business, and maybe they just hired more
(08:04):
people to make it easier for them. I mean, Laura
stepped down as the CEO of Kick right before Atlas
was born, so it just seems like they have a
really good team around them.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I found this little nugget the Steph dropped really interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So she told this story on the podcast about how
she and her husband Josh were out at dinner with
Laura and Dalton and another couple who had just moved
to the UK, and at the time, Steph was pregnant
with Billy, so that would have meant that this dinner
was either late twenty twenty four or early twenty twenty five,
and off the back of their joint friends moving overseas,
(08:37):
Laura and Dalton announced at this dinner that they were
thinking about living in New York for the following year.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
For around six months. Let's take a listen to what Steph.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Said, and Josh and I were just like sitting there nodding,
being like, yeah, we just bought a property out like
an hour away from the city, about to settle down
and in Royal Harvey in primary school. Like it was
just so weird because we were like sitting there nodding
and smiling, being like, fuck, we are lives apart like
from this crew right now, but still like so excited
for you both in everything you were telling us. But yeah,
(09:07):
we walked over from that dinner being like, whoa, our
lives are very different. I mean, fast forward. You then
had the surprise of your life and that you know
didn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I mean, is this sort of code for we went
home and had a big bitch about how out of
touch you are and what separate lives we're living. I
mean yes, but I think bitch has a negative connotation.
I think it would have been more like, oh my gosh,
like an envious thing, like can you believe that they
can even consider that, because when you're a parent, you
can't even fathom the stuff that you're like, I should
have done that, and I should have done that, and
(09:37):
all the time that you had. I wonder if they
had plans to expand the business to the US and
Laura was going to go and set up that arm
of the business over there. I mean that makes sense
considering like she can't really up and leave when she's
got the business there. It's interesting because a lot of
their marketing was targeted towards the UK. They did quite
a few trips there a couple of years ago, and
they seem to be really booming there, so perhaps America
(09:59):
was their next. Liam Payne's girlfriend, Kay Cassidy, has broken
down after an embarrassing or deal at the airport. Now,
she travels through airports a lot. This time she was
on her way home to see her sister graduate college,
and she explained on her TikTok that she was standing
in line at the airport's security waiting to go through.
She got to the front of the line, handed her
(10:20):
passport to the officer and he proceeded to run at
the facial recognition technology. So this is where they take
a live photo of you and then the computer converts
it into a digital face print to see if it
is you in your passport photo. Now, she was expecting
to get the green light to say she could go through,
but she got the red light, and this led more
officers to come over and investigate.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
This is what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Next, phone calls over a woman and she literally looks
my passport. She looks at me. She's literally doing her
double tekly up and down, up and down. And this
woman literally keeps going on and on and on about
how this isn't Neil, You're giving me somebody else's passport.
New nose, new lips, something to your eyes, new hair.
(11:04):
I pull out my ID, She looks my ID, she
looks my passwork, she looks at me, she goes one,
two or three? Whose are three different people?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And literally so embarrass God, I feel so sorry for Kate,
Like I can actually feel myself burning up and sweating
just thinking about this happening to you. It got even worse, though,
because the agent ended up calling over three more of
her colleagues to look at the passport. Yeah, and one
asked her, oh, do you have an ID that we
can compare your passport photo too. She actually offered to
(11:35):
pull up her Instagram account, which I don't think is legal,
so they didn't accept that. She just said it was
such a humiliating experience as everyone behind her was listening in.
I mean imagine the person saying, oh, all three of
these photos don't look like you. You've literally had so
much work done, we can't even recognize you. I get
that this is a security thing, but I think there's
(11:56):
a way of going about it. And to me, Kate's
recount just show that they were being really judgment like
I think they knew it was her, but they were
just trying to be like, oh, you've changed all of
these things, like to say, oh, new nose, new lips,
Like wouldn't you say different nos, different lips? I disagree.
I think that they were just doing their jobs. I mean,
airport's security is really important, and I mean she showed
(12:18):
her TikTok the picture of her passport photo, and to
be fair, she.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Did look like a completely different person in it.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I think all she needs to do is update her
passport photo. This is gonna really become a problem though,
because obviously with plastic surgery and different procedures being normalized,
people's faces are changing. And I mean, how long to
passport photos last? Now?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Is it still ten years or was it five years?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Well, it just depends what passport you get. I think
you can get like a long term one for ten years,
and I think it's like three or five years. Obviously
you have to pay more if you want to update
your photo. I haven't really ever thought about it, but
I remember having an experience where I wished that I
was rejected from my passport because the photo was from
ten years earlier, and I think I was seventeen at
(13:00):
the time, and it was a incredibly unflattering photo. It
looked about twelve, and I was having to travel on
that passport as an adult, and I was like thinking,
how are people actually approving this? Like do I still
look like that? I remember there was this TikTok trend
where people were giving advice on how to take the
perfect passport or driver's license photo and how to look
(13:21):
glam in it, and I was thinking, I actually don't
want to have a really glamorous passport photo because, knowing me,
I travel looking like absolute crap when I go through
an airport, and I don't want people having this situation
where they're like, hold on, this isn't you what's going on? Yeah?
You want them to be pleasantly surprised, like, oh, she
scrubbed up well for a twenty four hour fly. Yeah.
There weren't actually that many people who felt sympathetic for
(13:41):
Kate Cassidy. A lot of people pointed out that the
airport's security were just doing their job. So one person wrote,
the woman is correct, she's just doing her job. The
photo doesn't match. Another said, I mean this in the
best way. It's time to.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Update the picture on the passport.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
You're gorgeous in both, but there's a lot of differences,
and if I didn't know better, it does look like
a different person. I'm not saying how they treated you
was okay, but I can see why they asked for
additional IDs. You really have changed a bit since that photo.
Whilst another said they should have been more polite about it,
but in the heat of the moment, they were more
likely concerned with the safety and security of their airport
(14:17):
and keeping their jobs at a time when things are
so predictable, they likely were not thinking of your feelings.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I tend to think that they've hit the nail on
the head.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
With those comments. I actually recently got my driver's license
photo updated because I changed my name, and it's so
weird now you're not allowed to smile in the photo,
and I found that really weird. I'm like, well why not. Yeah, Well,
they say that when you're pulled over, you're hardly going
to be smiling, particularly if you've been pulled over by police,
but I think it's stupid as well. One thing that
I've always wondered when we travel together is how can
(14:47):
the airport's security determine if we're traveling on each other's passports,
you know, being identical triplets, how could they tell the difference.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I've always been tempted to.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
See if I could get through using one of yours.
I mean, I wonder with the increase in plastic surge
and feelers and all of that sort of stuff that
changes your face, whether we're going to see airport's move
to tracking fingerprints rather than facial recognition side now to
have to throw it in there any opportunity. I can
mention that we met Taylor Swift, but it was quite
(15:15):
funny because when she found out that we were triplets,
she told us that all triplets have the same fingerprints,
and no one wanted to correct her and say that, actually,
everyone in the world has different fingerprints. I think she'd
seen it on the pass at a crime show. Yeah,
to be fair to Taylor, I think it was a
storyline on one of the crime shows she watches. She's
a big crime show buffer me. Her cat is called
(15:35):
Olivia Benson, so let's give her credit there she gives
us compensation. Yeah, exactly right. Well, that is where we're
going to leave things today. But if you do enjoy
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