June 1, 2026 • 23 mins
Bali cracks down on influencers. Molly Mae’s luxury car regret. Olivia Rogers 'wildly intense’ birth story. Sophie Cachia's surprising baby plans. And is having a Snapchat group considered millennial!?
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torba and I'm Kate Torba. And coming up on
today's show, Barley cracks down on influences Molly May's luxury
car regret, Olivia rodgers wildly intense birth story, and Sophie
(00:23):
Kesha's surprising baby plans. The first is having a Snapchat
group chat considered too millennial because over the weekend, we
were shamed on our Instagram story when we shared a
screenshot from a conversation that we were having in our
own Snapchat group chat about off Campus. Yeah, thank you
for that. I was not expecting that to appear suddenly
(00:44):
on Outspoken's page. Pretty embarrassing because I have been peer
pressured into watching Off Campus. I said last week that
I was not interested in the teen drama. I am hooked.
Thank you for those in the Facebook community who encouraged
me to watch it. You're not only hooked, you also
have fallen in love with Garrett Graham.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So, I shared in our private Snapchat group a picture
from Belmont's Instagram account, and I wrote, well, I'm a
wanna be puck Bunny. Now, it was very funny. I
legitimately laughed out loud. That's very millennial of me to say.
But as soon as I saw Sophie's little bit Moji appear,
I knew what she was going to do. I knew
that conversation wasn't private. It ends up, though, that the
(01:24):
joke really was on her because one of our listeners
dm us saying, you're having a snapchat group is so millennial.
Now I want to throw us under the bus further
because the Snapchat group in question is actually called sissy Chat. Yeah.
I think one of the rules of having a millennial
group chat of any kind is it has to have
a really lame title. Yeah. I mean we were taking
(01:45):
the piece when we named it that We've got another
group chat with a friend of ours, and for some reason,
it's called ginger Candy Girls Chat. Oh, I thought you
were going to talk about the one. We've got a
MILF's chat as well, so that'd be funny with one
of our friends who's the mum as well. I couldn't
care less whether this was considered millennial. It is a
necessity to have a group chat at us. Content created
Julian and good. She summarized my thoughts exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
A millennial's version of a support system is a group chat.
It's four people and nobody's qualified, and the name would
absolutely ruin our careers. That is where we process trauma.
That is where we make major life decisions. I mean
sometimes you'll just be having a full on mental breakdown
(02:28):
and the response is just a meme and you're like, honestly,
that helped. That is more than just a friendship. That
is a crowd sourced coping mechanism.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I need to point out Gillian was talking about group
chats in general, and I think jen Zettas are involved
in group chats, but I don't think that they use
Snapchat to have a group chat. And we have a
group chat on Messenger and in our text messages and
on Snapchat, and my husband finds it so funny. He's like,
hang on, you have like three different chat that's going
on with your sisters, and I'm like, yeah, because there's
(03:02):
different purposes. So the Snapchat group chat is for conversations
that you want to disappear. The funniest thing about it
is we could be having a fight in our Messenger
group chat and then you'll send through a snapchat totally
unrelated and everyone's like, oh, that's so cute. Yeah, it's weird,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So this is what I thought was beigy, brassy, silvery.
I mean, do you know what the description I'm giving
is exactly how it actually looks. To be honest, I
just feel as though in some lights it just looks
incredibly gold.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Molly May is having serious regret about the color of
her new luxury car. The UK Influenzer, who is due
to give birth to her second child any day now,
made the revelation in her latest YouTube video. Now. The
car in question is a Mercedes g Wagon, which retails
for around two hundred thousand pounds, and it's actually the
(03:55):
second g Wagon that Molly has owned, because just before
she gave birth to her first daughter, Band she bought
the same model, but in a chocolate brown color. Now
At the time, she shared a photo of the car
on her Instagram and wrote, bought myself a cool mum car.
She then went on to say it was her dream
car and had been on her goals list for a
very long time. Look, it's not uncommon for a pregnant
(04:16):
woman to purchase a bigger family car. But it just
cracks me up that this is the second g Wagon
that she has bought in the space of like three years.
What happened to the brown one that was beautiful? Yeah,
I was pretty surprised because this car was really her
pride and joy. She spoke about how she kept it
in mint condition, but she admitted she was actually advised
to upgrade the car. She said, Oh, I think it's
(04:36):
something to do with the least being up I don't
really know. I don't know the terminology. I'm guessing she
actually means the warranty because g Wagon warranties last four
years and she's had the car for three and a
half years, so it makes sense. Now we need to
talk about the color, because she thought she ordered the
car in a beige color, which is very Molly May. Yeah,
it cracked me up. So many people were commenting on TikTok,
(04:58):
like why is everything she owns that it's on brand
for her? Yeah. Unfortunately, when the car arrived, she realized
it was actually gold. Let's take a listen to what
she said.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I ordered the car in what I thought was like
a beige, a beige color like a silvery beige goldie.
I don't even know. I just thought it was kind
of like a subtle, like parlacinty beigey color with maybe
a slight flack of gold in it. But like anyway,
the cars come and I'm actually told any of my
(05:31):
friends and family this year because they all think I
love the car, but basic cap decided that I'm actually
like the color. It's not for me at all.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now, I did some research and the color Molly purchase
is actually called color Hair Gold, which is described as
a distinctive, luxurious matt gold paint finish. Maybe she didn't
read those details, like, maybe she was just showing a
photo and went, yep, you know, there's so much going on.
I'm heavily pregnant. I'll take that one. I mean a
lot of people that difficult to believe that you wouldn't
(06:01):
actually do the research into a two hundred thousand dollar car.
What is obvious to me is she didn't see it
in person. And I'm wondering if it was some sort
of push present from Tommy and maybe he goes, pick
which one you want online and I'll work it out
for you. I mean, he's been away at a training
camp while she's heavily pregnant. Maybe this is a bit
of an apology as well. I actually liked the gold,
but I could see what she meant. It was very flashy,
(06:23):
and you could just imagine her pulling up in front
of paparazzi and just looking like this real wanker that's
brought herself this bright gold car. She actually said, part
of the reason that she doesn't like the color is
because it's drawing too much attention. Let's take a listen, and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Every time I drive around it and everyone's like as
if to be like, I'm driving one of those cars
that wants to be looked at, and it's really not
the case. I don't want the car to be looked at.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I absolutely love Molly May, but I can see the
irony in that comment, like, oh, I don't want any attention,
but I'm driving around in a two hundred k gea wagon. Yeah.
But where she lives, probably everyone's driving around in a
fucking GA wagon.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But if you're trying to not be noticed by the
paparazzi and you're driving into Manchester, you're going to stand
out like a sore thumb in a g wag an't
I you've seen her sister, Zoe Ray's car, because that
car stands out. It's just I think it's a land Rover.
It's massive, and it's this really unique blue. No, I
actually haven't seen Zoe raise, but I remember when Molly
May got her license. She got it when she was
about twenty one or twenty two, and she ended up
(07:21):
buying herself a land Rover straight off the back and
people were like, oh my god, I can't believe she
splurged on that car. But that was nothing compared to
these g wagons. She bought her mama car as well
for Christmas. So this is a thing like we think
it's such a big deal getting a two hundred thousand
dollar car, but for these people, it's nothing like the
fact that she didn't view the color in person is
now just saying, you know what, I'm just gonna get
(07:42):
it wrapped. I'm just going to change the color completely.
But this is a small issue for her. This isn't
as big as it is for us in terms of
the color that she's going to get the car wrapped in.
Do we think she's going to go beige or do
you think she could go much and have the little
Mercedes logos in that light pink, sort of strawberry watch color.
I think if she doesn't want to draw attention to
herself with a gold car, I hardly think she's going
(08:03):
to get a much a colored car.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
A way of apology for the previous demarcle, Plilo offered
us a very good deal on a package holiday to Columbia. Now,
as soon as we came out of podcast. As soon
as we came out of Bogota Airport, Peter was betten
by rabbit Dot.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Influencers love affair with Bali. Maybe over Indonesian immigration authorities
are cracking down on foreign content creators working on tourist visas.
A task force has even been specifically set up to
target content creators illegally creating promotional content in the holiday hotspot. Now,
this recent shift signals a real pivot from Bali's previously
(08:41):
leaning attitude towards influencers. Yeah, for many years, there's been
a real gray area around whether influencer brand deals were
considered a visa breach. But since April this year, Bally's
immigration authorities are getting rid of any of that uncertainty
and are treating the influencer economy as an immigration problem. Yeah,
it's really interesting when you delve deeper, because they are
(09:03):
saying that they consider a breach to be any work
that could cause economic benefit to the tourists, even if
money doesn't exchange hands. So that means that influencers can
no longer accept free hotel stays, no unpaid photo shoots
for cafes or bikini brands. It's going to be a
real hit to a lot of influencers. Yeah, and I
(09:24):
wonder what it means for things like holiday vlogs where
influencers earn AdSense on that content, Like, is that a
visa breach? I think that they might turn a blind
eye to that. That would be harder to prove because
if you get home and you create a holiday log, Yeah,
surely not. Yeah, it's not just influencers they're cracking down
on either. Officials are also looking into photographers and DJs
at work for freebes, so sort of influencer adjacent fields
(09:47):
as such. And they're taking this really seriously. They've already
set up a task force of hundreds of officers to
actively review social media content to find influencers illegally working.
I just imagine this room of male officers rolling bikini
photos and zooming in and being like, hang on, this
is just work. It's quite funny because there's an ad.
(10:08):
It's quite funny because they're specifically focusing on regions like
cheng Gou and Uluwatu and they're literally patrolling these hot spots.
In the first three weeks of the operation, they've found
sixty two foreigners in breach of their travel visas. I
wonder if Bonny Blue sparked any of this because she
was going to be deported for filming content over there.
I mean, I get it. There are a lot of
(10:29):
people who are working over there and they're not declaring it,
so I can see why this is an issue. It
is a really interesting move, though, when you consider how
important tourism actually is for Barley, because it is a
massive part of their economy and obviously it brings in
a lot of opportunities for locals. I think it's just
indicative of how society views influencers at the moment. I mean,
(10:49):
it's got a really negative connotation attached to the word,
and people don't want to give influence as a free ride,
even if it's helping them out. I wonder if there's
an element of revenue though, because Barley it's still recovering
from COVID. A year working visa costs around one thousand,
five hundred to two thousand, five hundred Australian dollars. That's
a lot of money, also factoring in how many people
(11:11):
are receiving fines now, it's pretty fascinating when you compare
Barley's treatment of influences to the way Dubai treats influencers.
I mean, obviously this was pre the Iran War, but
Dubai is renowned for welcoming influencers with open arms. They've
even created special visas to get them to live there.
So it's really the opposite of what Barley's now doing.
(11:33):
I mean, Barley's making it difficult for influencers to work there. Well,
we know how much Molly made sister Zoe Ray hated Barley.
Imagine if they came and find her for her influencer work. Well,
in terms of these penalties that influencers are facing if
they are found to breach their travel visa, there are
hefty fines. They can also be deported immediately and face
a potential travel ban and a lengthy travel ban in
(11:56):
that they've been creeping these silly little dark key Nara
Smith has recreated the viral dot cake and I'm not okay,
let's have a listen.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Even though it's literally just a cak with some sprinkles
on top, I needed to try it, Like, got started
making most sprink call since there was teak about seven hours.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Now you heard correctly, the overall process of making those
sprinkles took seven hours. It took two and a half
hours just to pipe them out alone. She was doing
every single sprinkle. Imagine how much b roll she had,
Like as a videographer, I'm like, fuck, that would have
been awful to have to go through to condense it
down to that one minute cleer, do we think she
really did it? She surely got to help her to
(12:37):
do the rest of her can she did it? What
I had an issue with is the fact. And I
don't want him picky because she made them herself. But
why were they only in red, green and blue? Where
was the yellow? Where's the pink? Where was the white?
Like it didn't have the same effect as the dot
I'm being picky. She only had seven hours up asleep.
She didn't have fourteen hours, so she had to be
pity with the colors. I didn't even think about making
(12:58):
your own sprinkles like that I ever ever crossed my mind.
I didn't even know it was a thing. I mean,
this is just Narrowsmith to a tea. She has rage
baiting and it works. She's got over two million views
on the video. I thought it was a clever take
on the dot cake. As someone who's entire feed, as
I mentioned last week, is full of them, I welcome
this type of content. I'm very excited because you've lured
(13:19):
me over to film at your house because you said
you've made some dotcakes.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well I've got one special dot cake for you to try.
Kate Dale tasted them last night, or don't tell me.
Maybe don't tell me. I want to tell you. So
you have to go over to Kate and my Instagram account.
We will be sharing the review on there. Yeah, we're
going to be sharing a little bit more behind the
scenes on our Instagram account, so make sure you go
check that out now. I am known to be the
one that's picky about packet cakes, and I'm a baker myself.
(13:46):
I love baking. I need to ask have you put
these in the fridge. Well, I did put the cake
in the fridge because I made it last night, so
I thought that he's going to affect them. But the
thing is, I did that because I want the sprinkles
to be, you know, extra hard. Everyone's been in this
spoon across the top, so he'd be able to do that.
Being in the fridgeouldn't make a difference. I'd be hard
(14:06):
to know what he does.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
For my whole life.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I have thought that I just had straight but frizzy hair.
Olivia Rodgers has opened up for the first time about
the wildly intense and painful birth of her son Albert.
The former Miss Universe contestant, said it was far beyond
anything she could have imagined now Kate. Ahead of the birth,
Olivia told her followers she was going to try for
(14:31):
a vaginal birth. Yeah, so she said she wanted to
try for a vaginal delivery if she could, and it
was the safest option, and she ended up going into
spontaneous labor at thirty nine weeks and one day now.
It came as a complete surprise to her because the
day before, she said, she felt completely fine and no
different to how she had been feeling previously. She even
texted a friend saying, I don't think he's coming anytime
(14:54):
soon now. The birth itself happened really quickly, so fast
in fact, that by the time she arrived at the
birthing sweet, she was already fully dilated and there was
no time for pain relief. This is my absolute nightmare.
It actually happened to one of my friends, and I
was like, but how do you keep going through it? Like,
I don't understand. You always hear these nightmare stories about
(15:14):
how they were in labor for twenty four hours and
they'd only dilated like a centimeter. It's rare to hear
that someone is fully dilated when they arrive at the hospital.
Poor Olivia. Well, my friends who went through the same thing.
She said that she didn't really realize her waters had broken,
and she ended up doing a full clean of the
house before she left for the hospital. Look, I know
(15:36):
sea sections aren't for everybody, but stories like this make
me feel so confident in my decision to have locked
in a sea section with Harry a planned one. Yeah,
I mean, this is sort of part of the reason
why I also did the same thing, but I was
living in fear in that last couple of weeks of pregnancy,
being like, imagine if it just happened came early. I No,
I kept asking the stuff. I'm like, okay, so if
(15:57):
I arrive and I've spontaneaneously gone into labor, can I
still have to see And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
just don't drink anything. It's just considered an emergency. Where
now if you can believe, it's been two weeks since
Albert was born, and Olivia provided an update saying it
has been the most beautiful, overwhelming, exhausting love field time.
What a perfect way to submarize those first couple of weeks. Yeah,
(16:18):
and she also said that motherhood has been harder than
she expected in some ways, but also more incredible than
she could have imagined. I can see why people who
yet to have children get so confused when people talk
about motherhood. But we talk about this on our Mum's
Group podcast. But it's so funny the varying degrees of
both difficulty and joy that you feel at the time. Yeah.
(16:42):
I think the best way to summarize is the baby
is amazing and incredible. It's the other things that come
along with it that aren't so nice. Yeah, I mean,
and it's all short lived. I mean, it sounds like
they've been doing it pretty tough because Olivia's had tons
of Lada's, Hugo's had a really bad cold as well.
They've been having to wear masks around their so that
would be a nightmare. Fortunately he hasn't got sick yet,
(17:04):
and touchwood, he remains that way. But can you imagine
having tonsilidis and having to get up and feed a
baby every three to four hours? Oh, it sounds like
my absolute fucking nightmare, to be honest. I need to
add in we were tossing up whether we thought that
they were going to go with Albi or Bertie for
the buy, I said, Alberi, so you were right. They
are calling Albert Albi, which makes a lot more sense.
(17:25):
I mean, I can't imagine calling a newborn Albert all
the time, can you? Is really interesting because in a
Q and A someone actually asked Olivia would she ever
moved back to her hometown of Adelaide, and she said never,
say never, but the plan is to stay in Melbourne
as they really love it. I mean, this period would
be really rough for Olivia and Hugo because Olivia, of
course as I said, her family's in Adelaide, Hugos are
(17:45):
in Perth. How difficult would that be? Oh, I can't
imagine not having your parents around, like it would be
so tough. I mean, Fortunately, Olivia's mum was there for
the first week of Albi's life and she was helping
out with laundry and meal prep and doing all of
those things that mums do. However, when you think about it,
like it's lovely, but a week that's so quick? Yeah,
(18:06):
well it's lucky because apparently Hugo's mum has recently purchased
an apartment in Melbourne, so she is going to come
over for regular visits. But he'll be interesting to see
if they end up moving because also Olivia's got a
sister here with you know, nieces and nephews. You'd want
all the cousins to be together, wouldn't you. I always
find influencers maternity leave situations really interesting because they are
(18:27):
self employed and if they are to take time off
work then they're not earning money. But then you've also
got the fear of losing your following and your engagement,
and you know, the birth of a child is that
peak time of engagement. For an influencer, so people are
wanting to hear from them. I think what's hard for
a lot of influences is that as soon as they
have children, they're then typecast as a mummy blogger. I
(18:49):
mean Jarde Tunt she spoke about it recently how she
no longer gets invited to fashion events and that had
really upset her. I mean, Olivia is in that similar space.
She does a lot of fashion, so it's going to
be interesting to see how she evolves, whether she has
to evolve. I mean a lot of new mums will
be drawn to her content, but she might put off
(19:09):
other people who are in the same life stage as well. Yeah,
it can be a really polarizing time in terms of
how Olivia has structured her personal brand and business. She
actually told her followers in a Q and A that
for the last couple of years it's been set up
as a company, so she pays herself a salary, and
she said that she's going to continue paying herself a
(19:30):
salary while she's on leave, so it doesn't appear like
she's going to have access to any of that government
maternity leave. She admitted though she doesn't have a plan
for how long, she'll actually take off and she's going
to play it by ear and see how she and
her baby are feeling. It is funny because a lot
of people followed up saying, well, what is your business
and main line of work, and she replied saying she
(19:52):
finds it funny that she often gets asked this question
on Instagram, which is actually her main source of income.
She said social media and content creation has been her
full time job for the past eight years. I think
it's that thing where people hope that someone's not earning
their full time income from what they sort of deemers
an easy job, and by continuously asking, they hope that
(20:13):
the influencer might slip up and let on how much
they're actually I also think it's because Olivia, for a
number of years, was working as a speech pathologist and
she was juggling social media as well. And often when
you followed someone who's had a full time job like that, yeah,
you get you're like, wait a sec, so you're not
doing that anymore? Yeah, And I suppose people look at
Olivia and think, oh God, isn't speech pathology more important
(20:35):
than influencing? Yeah. Sophie Kasia has revealed she wants a
fourth baby. The PJ entrepreneur strategically made the admission on
her business TikTok, whilst promoting her latest range of pjs.
It turns out, though it won't be happening for a while. Yeah. So,
originally Sophie and Maddie plan to get pregnant at the
end of this year, but the recent proposal has thrown
(20:58):
a spanner in the work. Now decided to put the
plan on hold and focus on their upcoming wedding. And
it makes sense that they want to focus on themselves
as a couple and you know, enjoy that special time
because they literally got together when Sophie was pregnant. So
she shocked her followers in June twenty twenty four when
she announced her pregnancy, and at the time, she was
(21:19):
yet to go public with her relationship with Maddie. And
it sounds like Sophie's decision in twenty twenty four to
have the baby was just for herself. She wasn't having
this baby with Maddie no. In fact, she said that
she actually was sort of pushing Mattie away. She's like, oh,
this this is just going to be too tough, Like
it's going to put a strain on our relationship, and
at the time, Sophie said Maddie would be a part
of the baby's life, she wouldn't be taking on the
(21:41):
role of mum. That didn't last very long, though. In March,
Sophie revealed she actually changed her daughter Esme's last name
to include Mattie's surname and said, you know, Maddie is
also her mum. Yeah, I can see why she said
that originally, because she probably didn't want to put too
much pressure on Maddie, and also the relationship it's so new.
Reading between the lines, it seems like there's a chance
(22:02):
that Maddie may actually carry this fourth baby rather than
Sophie because originally, as I said earlier, the plan was
for Sophie to get pregnant at the end of this year,
and that was based on the fact that Sophie's turning
thirty six this year. She said she doesn't really want
to have another baby in her late thirties. However, they've
now put that on hold for the wedding, and Sophie
(22:23):
said what helped her change her mind was the fact
that Maddie is ten years younger than her, so she's
twenty five. So to me, this points to the fact
that Maddie is probably likely to carry the next baby.
Isn't she still playing afow?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But I mean the season's not that long. I mean,
lots of athletes come back from having babies. That would
be incredible if you're in a lesbian relationship and you
could just say, look, babe, this is your churn, I've
had my turn. That would be ranged to be so
much easier. Oh yeah, And wouldn't it be so weird
for Sophie, who's gone through three pregnancy is now to
(22:55):
be on the other side of it. I mean she
would be able to relate so well to the city situation. Well,
Sophie's yet to confirm whether this is going to be
the case, but someone wrote underneath her TikTok does this
mean Maddie will carry baby number four? Enjoy your time
together and the wedding, and Sophie simply replied with two
black lovehearts. I take that as a yes. Well that
(23:16):
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subscribed to the Mum's Group feed. This episode was recorded
on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the
Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present,
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Amy Torba and I'm Kate Torba. And coming up on
today's show, Barley cracks down on influences Molly May's luxury
car regret, Olivia rodgers wildly intense birth story, and Sophie
(00:23):
Kesha's surprising baby plans. The first is having a Snapchat
group chat considered too millennial because over the weekend, we
were shamed on our Instagram story when we shared a
screenshot from a conversation that we were having in our
own Snapchat group chat about off Campus. Yeah, thank you
for that. I was not expecting that to appear suddenly
(00:44):
on Outspoken's page. Pretty embarrassing because I have been peer
pressured into watching Off Campus. I said last week that
I was not interested in the teen drama. I am hooked.
Thank you for those in the Facebook community who encouraged
me to watch it. You're not only hooked, you also
have fallen in love with Garrett Graham.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So, I shared in our private Snapchat group a picture
from Belmont's Instagram account, and I wrote, well, I'm a
wanna be puck Bunny. Now, it was very funny. I
legitimately laughed out loud. That's very millennial of me to say.
But as soon as I saw Sophie's little bit Moji appear,
I knew what she was going to do. I knew
that conversation wasn't private. It ends up, though, that the
(01:24):
joke really was on her because one of our listeners
dm us saying, you're having a snapchat group is so millennial.
Now I want to throw us under the bus further
because the Snapchat group in question is actually called sissy Chat. Yeah.
I think one of the rules of having a millennial
group chat of any kind is it has to have
a really lame title. Yeah. I mean we were taking
(01:45):
the piece when we named it that We've got another
group chat with a friend of ours, and for some reason,
it's called ginger Candy Girls Chat. Oh, I thought you
were going to talk about the one. We've got a
MILF's chat as well, so that'd be funny with one
of our friends who's the mum as well. I couldn't
care less whether this was considered millennial. It is a
necessity to have a group chat at us. Content created
Julian and good. She summarized my thoughts exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
A millennial's version of a support system is a group chat.
It's four people and nobody's qualified, and the name would
absolutely ruin our careers. That is where we process trauma.
That is where we make major life decisions. I mean
sometimes you'll just be having a full on mental breakdown
(02:28):
and the response is just a meme and you're like, honestly,
that helped. That is more than just a friendship. That
is a crowd sourced coping mechanism.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I need to point out Gillian was talking about group
chats in general, and I think jen Zettas are involved
in group chats, but I don't think that they use
Snapchat to have a group chat. And we have a
group chat on Messenger and in our text messages and
on Snapchat, and my husband finds it so funny. He's like,
hang on, you have like three different chat that's going
on with your sisters, and I'm like, yeah, because there's
(03:02):
different purposes. So the Snapchat group chat is for conversations
that you want to disappear. The funniest thing about it
is we could be having a fight in our Messenger
group chat and then you'll send through a snapchat totally
unrelated and everyone's like, oh, that's so cute. Yeah, it's weird,
isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So this is what I thought was beigy, brassy, silvery.
I mean, do you know what the description I'm giving
is exactly how it actually looks. To be honest, I
just feel as though in some lights it just looks
incredibly gold.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Molly May is having serious regret about the color of
her new luxury car. The UK Influenzer, who is due
to give birth to her second child any day now,
made the revelation in her latest YouTube video. Now. The
car in question is a Mercedes g Wagon, which retails
for around two hundred thousand pounds, and it's actually the
(03:55):
second g Wagon that Molly has owned, because just before
she gave birth to her first daughter, Band she bought
the same model, but in a chocolate brown color. Now
At the time, she shared a photo of the car
on her Instagram and wrote, bought myself a cool mum car.
She then went on to say it was her dream
car and had been on her goals list for a
very long time. Look, it's not uncommon for a pregnant
(04:16):
woman to purchase a bigger family car. But it just
cracks me up that this is the second g Wagon
that she has bought in the space of like three years.
What happened to the brown one that was beautiful? Yeah,
I was pretty surprised because this car was really her
pride and joy. She spoke about how she kept it
in mint condition, but she admitted she was actually advised
to upgrade the car. She said, Oh, I think it's
(04:36):
something to do with the least being up I don't
really know. I don't know the terminology. I'm guessing she
actually means the warranty because g Wagon warranties last four
years and she's had the car for three and a
half years, so it makes sense. Now we need to
talk about the color, because she thought she ordered the
car in a beige color, which is very Molly May. Yeah,
it cracked me up. So many people were commenting on TikTok,
(04:58):
like why is everything she owns that it's on brand
for her? Yeah. Unfortunately, when the car arrived, she realized
it was actually gold. Let's take a listen to what
she said.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I ordered the car in what I thought was like
a beige, a beige color like a silvery beige goldie.
I don't even know. I just thought it was kind
of like a subtle, like parlacinty beigey color with maybe
a slight flack of gold in it. But like anyway,
the cars come and I'm actually told any of my
(05:31):
friends and family this year because they all think I
love the car, but basic cap decided that I'm actually
like the color. It's not for me at all.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now, I did some research and the color Molly purchase
is actually called color Hair Gold, which is described as
a distinctive, luxurious matt gold paint finish. Maybe she didn't
read those details, like, maybe she was just showing a
photo and went, yep, you know, there's so much going on.
I'm heavily pregnant. I'll take that one. I mean a
lot of people that difficult to believe that you wouldn't
(06:01):
actually do the research into a two hundred thousand dollar car.
What is obvious to me is she didn't see it
in person. And I'm wondering if it was some sort
of push present from Tommy and maybe he goes, pick
which one you want online and I'll work it out
for you. I mean, he's been away at a training
camp while she's heavily pregnant. Maybe this is a bit
of an apology as well. I actually liked the gold,
but I could see what she meant. It was very flashy,
(06:23):
and you could just imagine her pulling up in front
of paparazzi and just looking like this real wanker that's
brought herself this bright gold car. She actually said, part
of the reason that she doesn't like the color is
because it's drawing too much attention. Let's take a listen, and.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Every time I drive around it and everyone's like as
if to be like, I'm driving one of those cars
that wants to be looked at, and it's really not
the case. I don't want the car to be looked at.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I absolutely love Molly May, but I can see the
irony in that comment, like, oh, I don't want any attention,
but I'm driving around in a two hundred k gea wagon. Yeah.
But where she lives, probably everyone's driving around in a
fucking GA wagon.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
But if you're trying to not be noticed by the
paparazzi and you're driving into Manchester, you're going to stand
out like a sore thumb in a g wag an't
I you've seen her sister, Zoe Ray's car, because that
car stands out. It's just I think it's a land Rover.
It's massive, and it's this really unique blue. No, I
actually haven't seen Zoe raise, but I remember when Molly
May got her license. She got it when she was
about twenty one or twenty two, and she ended up
(07:21):
buying herself a land Rover straight off the back and
people were like, oh my god, I can't believe she
splurged on that car. But that was nothing compared to
these g wagons. She bought her mama car as well
for Christmas. So this is a thing like we think
it's such a big deal getting a two hundred thousand
dollar car, but for these people, it's nothing like the
fact that she didn't view the color in person is
now just saying, you know what, I'm just gonna get
(07:42):
it wrapped. I'm just going to change the color completely.
But this is a small issue for her. This isn't
as big as it is for us in terms of
the color that she's going to get the car wrapped in.
Do we think she's going to go beige or do
you think she could go much and have the little
Mercedes logos in that light pink, sort of strawberry watch color.
I think if she doesn't want to draw attention to
herself with a gold car, I hardly think she's going
(08:03):
to get a much a colored car.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
A way of apology for the previous demarcle, Plilo offered
us a very good deal on a package holiday to Columbia. Now,
as soon as we came out of podcast. As soon
as we came out of Bogota Airport, Peter was betten
by rabbit Dot.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Influencers love affair with Bali. Maybe over Indonesian immigration authorities
are cracking down on foreign content creators working on tourist visas.
A task force has even been specifically set up to
target content creators illegally creating promotional content in the holiday hotspot. Now,
this recent shift signals a real pivot from Bali's previously
(08:41):
leaning attitude towards influencers. Yeah, for many years, there's been
a real gray area around whether influencer brand deals were
considered a visa breach. But since April this year, Bally's
immigration authorities are getting rid of any of that uncertainty
and are treating the influencer economy as an immigration problem. Yeah,
it's really interesting when you delve deeper, because they are
(09:03):
saying that they consider a breach to be any work
that could cause economic benefit to the tourists, even if
money doesn't exchange hands. So that means that influencers can
no longer accept free hotel stays, no unpaid photo shoots
for cafes or bikini brands. It's going to be a
real hit to a lot of influencers. Yeah, and I
(09:24):
wonder what it means for things like holiday vlogs where
influencers earn AdSense on that content, Like, is that a
visa breach? I think that they might turn a blind
eye to that. That would be harder to prove because
if you get home and you create a holiday log, Yeah,
surely not. Yeah, it's not just influencers they're cracking down
on either. Officials are also looking into photographers and DJs
at work for freebes, so sort of influencer adjacent fields
(09:47):
as such. And they're taking this really seriously. They've already
set up a task force of hundreds of officers to
actively review social media content to find influencers illegally working.
I just imagine this room of male officers rolling bikini
photos and zooming in and being like, hang on, this
is just work. It's quite funny because there's an ad.
(10:08):
It's quite funny because they're specifically focusing on regions like
cheng Gou and Uluwatu and they're literally patrolling these hot spots.
In the first three weeks of the operation, they've found
sixty two foreigners in breach of their travel visas. I
wonder if Bonny Blue sparked any of this because she
was going to be deported for filming content over there.
I mean, I get it. There are a lot of
(10:29):
people who are working over there and they're not declaring it,
so I can see why this is an issue. It
is a really interesting move, though, when you consider how
important tourism actually is for Barley, because it is a
massive part of their economy and obviously it brings in
a lot of opportunities for locals. I think it's just
indicative of how society views influencers at the moment. I mean,
(10:49):
it's got a really negative connotation attached to the word,
and people don't want to give influence as a free ride,
even if it's helping them out. I wonder if there's
an element of revenue though, because Barley it's still recovering
from COVID. A year working visa costs around one thousand,
five hundred to two thousand, five hundred Australian dollars. That's
a lot of money, also factoring in how many people
(11:11):
are receiving fines now, it's pretty fascinating when you compare
Barley's treatment of influences to the way Dubai treats influencers.
I mean, obviously this was pre the Iran War, but
Dubai is renowned for welcoming influencers with open arms. They've
even created special visas to get them to live there.
So it's really the opposite of what Barley's now doing.
(11:33):
I mean, Barley's making it difficult for influencers to work there. Well,
we know how much Molly made sister Zoe Ray hated Barley.
Imagine if they came and find her for her influencer work. Well,
in terms of these penalties that influencers are facing if
they are found to breach their travel visa, there are
hefty fines. They can also be deported immediately and face
a potential travel ban and a lengthy travel ban in
(11:56):
that they've been creeping these silly little dark key Nara
Smith has recreated the viral dot cake and I'm not okay,
let's have a listen.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Even though it's literally just a cak with some sprinkles
on top, I needed to try it, Like, got started
making most sprink call since there was teak about seven hours.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Now you heard correctly, the overall process of making those
sprinkles took seven hours. It took two and a half
hours just to pipe them out alone. She was doing
every single sprinkle. Imagine how much b roll she had,
Like as a videographer, I'm like, fuck, that would have
been awful to have to go through to condense it
down to that one minute cleer, do we think she
really did it? She surely got to help her to
(12:37):
do the rest of her can she did it? What
I had an issue with is the fact. And I
don't want him picky because she made them herself. But
why were they only in red, green and blue? Where
was the yellow? Where's the pink? Where was the white?
Like it didn't have the same effect as the dot
I'm being picky. She only had seven hours up asleep.
She didn't have fourteen hours, so she had to be
pity with the colors. I didn't even think about making
(12:58):
your own sprinkles like that I ever ever crossed my mind.
I didn't even know it was a thing. I mean,
this is just Narrowsmith to a tea. She has rage
baiting and it works. She's got over two million views
on the video. I thought it was a clever take
on the dot cake. As someone who's entire feed, as
I mentioned last week, is full of them, I welcome
this type of content. I'm very excited because you've lured
(13:19):
me over to film at your house because you said
you've made some dotcakes.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well I've got one special dot cake for you to try.
Kate Dale tasted them last night, or don't tell me.
Maybe don't tell me. I want to tell you. So
you have to go over to Kate and my Instagram account.
We will be sharing the review on there. Yeah, we're
going to be sharing a little bit more behind the
scenes on our Instagram account, so make sure you go
check that out now. I am known to be the
one that's picky about packet cakes, and I'm a baker myself.
(13:46):
I love baking. I need to ask have you put
these in the fridge. Well, I did put the cake
in the fridge because I made it last night, so
I thought that he's going to affect them. But the
thing is, I did that because I want the sprinkles
to be, you know, extra hard. Everyone's been in this
spoon across the top, so he'd be able to do that.
Being in the fridgeouldn't make a difference. I'd be hard
(14:06):
to know what he does.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
For my whole life.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I have thought that I just had straight but frizzy hair.
Olivia Rodgers has opened up for the first time about
the wildly intense and painful birth of her son Albert.
The former Miss Universe contestant, said it was far beyond
anything she could have imagined now Kate. Ahead of the birth,
Olivia told her followers she was going to try for
(14:31):
a vaginal birth. Yeah, so she said she wanted to
try for a vaginal delivery if she could, and it
was the safest option, and she ended up going into
spontaneous labor at thirty nine weeks and one day now.
It came as a complete surprise to her because the
day before, she said, she felt completely fine and no
different to how she had been feeling previously. She even
texted a friend saying, I don't think he's coming anytime
(14:54):
soon now. The birth itself happened really quickly, so fast
in fact, that by the time she arrived at the
birthing sweet, she was already fully dilated and there was
no time for pain relief. This is my absolute nightmare.
It actually happened to one of my friends, and I
was like, but how do you keep going through it? Like,
I don't understand. You always hear these nightmare stories about
(15:14):
how they were in labor for twenty four hours and
they'd only dilated like a centimeter. It's rare to hear
that someone is fully dilated when they arrive at the hospital.
Poor Olivia. Well, my friends who went through the same thing.
She said that she didn't really realize her waters had broken,
and she ended up doing a full clean of the
house before she left for the hospital. Look, I know
(15:36):
sea sections aren't for everybody, but stories like this make
me feel so confident in my decision to have locked
in a sea section with Harry a planned one. Yeah,
I mean, this is sort of part of the reason
why I also did the same thing, but I was
living in fear in that last couple of weeks of pregnancy,
being like, imagine if it just happened came early. I No,
I kept asking the stuff. I'm like, okay, so if
(15:57):
I arrive and I've spontaneaneously gone into labor, can I
still have to see And they're like yeah, yeah, yeah,
just don't drink anything. It's just considered an emergency. Where
now if you can believe, it's been two weeks since
Albert was born, and Olivia provided an update saying it
has been the most beautiful, overwhelming, exhausting love field time.
What a perfect way to submarize those first couple of weeks. Yeah,
(16:18):
and she also said that motherhood has been harder than
she expected in some ways, but also more incredible than
she could have imagined. I can see why people who
yet to have children get so confused when people talk
about motherhood. But we talk about this on our Mum's
Group podcast. But it's so funny the varying degrees of
both difficulty and joy that you feel at the time. Yeah.
(16:42):
I think the best way to summarize is the baby
is amazing and incredible. It's the other things that come
along with it that aren't so nice. Yeah, I mean,
and it's all short lived. I mean, it sounds like
they've been doing it pretty tough because Olivia's had tons
of Lada's, Hugo's had a really bad cold as well.
They've been having to wear masks around their so that
would be a nightmare. Fortunately he hasn't got sick yet,
(17:04):
and touchwood, he remains that way. But can you imagine
having tonsilidis and having to get up and feed a
baby every three to four hours? Oh, it sounds like
my absolute fucking nightmare, to be honest. I need to
add in we were tossing up whether we thought that
they were going to go with Albi or Bertie for
the buy, I said, Alberi, so you were right. They
are calling Albert Albi, which makes a lot more sense.
(17:25):
I mean, I can't imagine calling a newborn Albert all
the time, can you? Is really interesting because in a
Q and A someone actually asked Olivia would she ever
moved back to her hometown of Adelaide, and she said never,
say never, but the plan is to stay in Melbourne
as they really love it. I mean, this period would
be really rough for Olivia and Hugo because Olivia, of
course as I said, her family's in Adelaide, Hugos are
(17:45):
in Perth. How difficult would that be? Oh, I can't
imagine not having your parents around, like it would be
so tough. I mean, Fortunately, Olivia's mum was there for
the first week of Albi's life and she was helping
out with laundry and meal prep and doing all of
those things that mums do. However, when you think about it,
like it's lovely, but a week that's so quick? Yeah,
(18:06):
well it's lucky because apparently Hugo's mum has recently purchased
an apartment in Melbourne, so she is going to come
over for regular visits. But he'll be interesting to see
if they end up moving because also Olivia's got a
sister here with you know, nieces and nephews. You'd want
all the cousins to be together, wouldn't you. I always
find influencers maternity leave situations really interesting because they are
(18:27):
self employed and if they are to take time off
work then they're not earning money. But then you've also
got the fear of losing your following and your engagement,
and you know, the birth of a child is that
peak time of engagement. For an influencer, so people are
wanting to hear from them. I think what's hard for
a lot of influences is that as soon as they
have children, they're then typecast as a mummy blogger. I
(18:49):
mean Jarde Tunt she spoke about it recently how she
no longer gets invited to fashion events and that had
really upset her. I mean, Olivia is in that similar space.
She does a lot of fashion, so it's going to
be interesting to see how she evolves, whether she has
to evolve. I mean a lot of new mums will
be drawn to her content, but she might put off
(19:09):
other people who are in the same life stage as well. Yeah,
it can be a really polarizing time in terms of
how Olivia has structured her personal brand and business. She
actually told her followers in a Q and A that
for the last couple of years it's been set up
as a company, so she pays herself a salary, and
she said that she's going to continue paying herself a
(19:30):
salary while she's on leave, so it doesn't appear like
she's going to have access to any of that government
maternity leave. She admitted though she doesn't have a plan
for how long, she'll actually take off and she's going
to play it by ear and see how she and
her baby are feeling. It is funny because a lot
of people followed up saying, well, what is your business
and main line of work, and she replied saying she
(19:52):
finds it funny that she often gets asked this question
on Instagram, which is actually her main source of income.
She said social media and content creation has been her
full time job for the past eight years. I think
it's that thing where people hope that someone's not earning
their full time income from what they sort of deemers
an easy job, and by continuously asking, they hope that
(20:13):
the influencer might slip up and let on how much
they're actually I also think it's because Olivia, for a
number of years, was working as a speech pathologist and
she was juggling social media as well. And often when
you followed someone who's had a full time job like that, yeah,
you get you're like, wait a sec, so you're not
doing that anymore? Yeah, And I suppose people look at
Olivia and think, oh God, isn't speech pathology more important
(20:35):
than influencing? Yeah. Sophie Kasia has revealed she wants a
fourth baby. The PJ entrepreneur strategically made the admission on
her business TikTok, whilst promoting her latest range of pjs.
It turns out, though it won't be happening for a while. Yeah. So,
originally Sophie and Maddie plan to get pregnant at the
end of this year, but the recent proposal has thrown
(20:58):
a spanner in the work. Now decided to put the
plan on hold and focus on their upcoming wedding. And
it makes sense that they want to focus on themselves
as a couple and you know, enjoy that special time
because they literally got together when Sophie was pregnant. So
she shocked her followers in June twenty twenty four when
she announced her pregnancy, and at the time, she was
(21:19):
yet to go public with her relationship with Maddie. And
it sounds like Sophie's decision in twenty twenty four to
have the baby was just for herself. She wasn't having
this baby with Maddie no. In fact, she said that
she actually was sort of pushing Mattie away. She's like, oh,
this this is just going to be too tough, Like
it's going to put a strain on our relationship, and
at the time, Sophie said Maddie would be a part
of the baby's life, she wouldn't be taking on the
(21:41):
role of mum. That didn't last very long, though. In March,
Sophie revealed she actually changed her daughter Esme's last name
to include Mattie's surname and said, you know, Maddie is
also her mum. Yeah, I can see why she said
that originally, because she probably didn't want to put too
much pressure on Maddie, and also the relationship it's so new.
Reading between the lines, it seems like there's a chance
(22:02):
that Maddie may actually carry this fourth baby rather than
Sophie because originally, as I said earlier, the plan was
for Sophie to get pregnant at the end of this year,
and that was based on the fact that Sophie's turning
thirty six this year. She said she doesn't really want
to have another baby in her late thirties. However, they've
now put that on hold for the wedding, and Sophie
(22:23):
said what helped her change her mind was the fact
that Maddie is ten years younger than her, so she's
twenty five. So to me, this points to the fact
that Maddie is probably likely to carry the next baby.
Isn't she still playing afow?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
But I mean the season's not that long. I mean,
lots of athletes come back from having babies. That would
be incredible if you're in a lesbian relationship and you
could just say, look, babe, this is your churn, I've
had my turn. That would be ranged to be so
much easier. Oh yeah, And wouldn't it be so weird
for Sophie, who's gone through three pregnancy is now to
(22:55):
be on the other side of it. I mean she
would be able to relate so well to the city situation. Well,
Sophie's yet to confirm whether this is going to be
the case, but someone wrote underneath her TikTok does this
mean Maddie will carry baby number four? Enjoy your time
together and the wedding, and Sophie simply replied with two
black lovehearts. I take that as a yes. Well that
(23:16):
is where we're going to leave things today. But if
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