"FaZe should sell their team", fnatic will go full Ukrainian, and is this the end for GamerLegion?

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00:00 intro - Gla1ve retires
06:24 Stage 1 was diabolical
16:07 Taken of the week
19:14 0-3: Rare Atom, Lynn Vision
21:46 1-3: The Huns, RED Canids, GamerLegion
33:00 2-3: Fluxo, NRG, Legacy
41:55 3-0: FlyQuest, M80
48:18 3-1: fnatic, B8, NiP
01:00:50 3-2: Parivision, Imperial, FaZe
01:07:43 Take of the week
01:10:37 Stage 2 simulator

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Episode Transcript

(00:02):
Right, Jack? Yo, what's up?
So there's this old Danish dude,right?
He's one of the best in game leaders of all time, but he's
like, he's kind of shit now. It's not really been working for
him for a while. And yeah, he's finally retired.

(00:25):
Any idea who I might be talking about?
Is Carrigan finally gone and my of my prayers been answered?
Yeah, sadly not. No mate, it's it's Glaive.
Glaive has retired from Counter Strike.
Any thoughts on that? I'd probably say too soon in
terms of age, but maybe not too soon in terms of career
trajectory, Right. Yeah.

(00:48):
And also like what what more is he going to do, right?
You know, he's he's had all the big wins he's had the majors
he's had you didn't want a Cologne, but you want a cat
though. What else are you going to do?
You know what I mean? He's he's coaching, right?
So they're still. Well, exactly.
Yeah, it's but it's a weird thing because I just I just

(01:09):
wrote the news light story abouthim retiring and I sought it out
on that Legacy is a really hard thing to judge because me and
you were doing it with Kerrigan now, right.
And if you're this Fury run, we were all doing it with Fallen,
where what, what do you, what doyou truly judge legacy on?

(01:30):
Do you judge legacy on someone'speak or potentially the damage
that they did later on in their career?
You know you can do that with like electronic as well.
Yeah, but also like entirely results or is it the impact you
leave, right, Because I'd say like, even with fallen like
having like pre dysphoria, like a decline in performance, I

(01:52):
think the impact he had on all of Brazilian CS was was bigger
than his own achievements. So what I mean so like the
legacy he leaves is not tied definitely to results, whereas A
Carrigan right, I don't know what what he's done, should we
say for the scene, and that's not to discredit him, whereas
Glaive obviously, right, as we know you know him, his shot has

(02:13):
kind of re redefined the game. They, they remade the matter to
this utility heavy sort of system, right?
And that's a legacy that the last passed to your own results,
if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely.
I'd also like to say, just whilethis is up, what the fuck is

(02:36):
going on with Dupree's hair in that image?
Why is it that color? Yeah, Blonde Dupree was a bit of
a looker, right? I'm just looking at like, the
glow down this entire team has had though.
Like looking at Majestic nowadays is not.
He's not pretty. Sorry, yeah, I mean device.
It's like he's just a pretty boythough any and.

(02:58):
He's always an interest, isn't he?
Well, he's not the greatest. But like, that's not yeah, yeah,
it's not the point. But yeah, Enclave before we move
on, quite looking forward to himbecoming a coach because as you
know, time went on. Sonic parted Australis,
Australis, you know, didn't get any better in Glaze Final,

(03:22):
however long it was with them. And then he went to ends and
then this wasn't exactly great. But again, like, did he really
have the players either to be great?
I'm not sure he did. It was awful.
Towards the end of his stint he had to put up with that Polish
team that we're never actually that good and we were only good
at Vertigo. For one event as well.

(03:44):
For one event, yeah, but there was always a conversation of
like, and it's happened to Sonicas well in the inverse of it.
But it was always a conversationof, you know, how good he's
glave about Sonic. Was it all just Sonic system
like these type of things that we'll never know because we
weren't there practicing with them.
So it will be very intriguing tosee A what type of coach he is

(04:06):
and B how much success he has. Yeah.
I think another thing we've played though, is is he's kind
of to a lesser degree, but in the same sort of Carrigan camp
as like he's quite a mid roundy in game leader, right, Not to
the degree that Carrigan is right with the whole system is
basically like do the default and see what happens.

(04:28):
But you know, it's it's it's howmuch impact can you have when
you're already talking in freezetime, right.
But I think someone, someone with a mind like his for the
game, obviously be a be a be a huge benefit to to a lot of
team, but I'm curious to see where he ends up.
Honestly I think like I could see him going to to OG possibly

(04:51):
could be a slight step down for him though.
Who? Is that coach?
I think it's Lambert, the Frenchdude.
Oh yeah, yeah, no, it is. There's another team I was
thinking of but but they've gonefrom my head. 100 thieves don't
actually have a coach. Not yet.

(05:14):
I think that's the name they. 'D be interested in looking up
potentially. Charlie's just looking.
Do you know who I would actuallyget if I was 100 fees?
Tell me. Zip.
You reckon? Well, he's been the assistant
coach of Mouse for a while and all the Mouse players have like
really good things to say about him and him.
And. What he actually does to help

(05:36):
them as an assistant coach. So at some point he's got it.
He's got to take the leap. Heroic.
That was my that was my suggestion.
Get him on the new heroic. Yeah, yeah.
Because obviously the bench Linus, it seems like they're
benching youngster as well. They're going to have a little
bit. Of a rebuild.
They back Toby's a little bit, whatever his name is,
considering they've just got prison in which we're.

(05:59):
Not going to whatever his name is, it's quite funny, but.
Yeah, heroic of Bench the engineer in order to bring in
prison. Yeah, that's the thing that's
happened. Anyway, Charlie, we're on the
fucking intro. We've got a major to talk about,

(06:24):
right, Jack? There's a fucking major on and
isn't. It good Merry.
Come on. Because it was fucking stage 1.
Fucking awful can. We can we start calling this the
minor? That's a really good name for
this part of the event. Yeah, you'd like minors being
mentioned, wouldn't you? What?
What an insane thing to say on the on the Internet itself.

(06:45):
I'm. Sorry, no, but seriously though,
like before we actually get intothe the major itself, I fucking
hate stage 1. I really do hate stage 1.
Like well. Are your pickups alive?
Because mine are. Yeah, mine are too.
OK, so it's not a results based hatred, it's.

(07:06):
Just no, no rubbish. It's, it's like, it's like with
the World Cup going from 32 teams to 48 teams, right?
And it, it, yeah, we already hadit with the Challenger stage
taking it from 16 to 24 and all this shit.
All it is is a, it's a dilution of the competition.
Like the, the standard of CS that we've watched for the past
four days has been dog shit. It's been really fucking poor.

(07:27):
I don't even want to jump to anyteams.
We'll get to them all, I'm sure.But the standard, the CS for
some of the names in this stage as well, appalling, abhorrent,
whatever you want to use, it wasfucking dog.
So yeah, yeah, there's which we'll get to also look quite
good. But as they should at this level

(07:50):
of competition, it it does startat the major.
Obviously it's, you know, a benefit to have more stickers in
the game and it's a better try more opportunity for teams and
players, which is obviously good.
But it does mean the event a little bit less special.
I'd say it it. Goes on too long and like, I
mean, we've, we've got the fucking, we've got the team list
here now. Like I know phase have gone

(08:14):
through by the skin and the teeth and we're going to talk
about them in a bit. Oh yes, we are.
Just look at the field, man. Major shouldn't begin with this.
Like Faring tweeted earlier thatwhen majors were 16 teams, the
best team in the world would play in the first one or two
days. How many of the teams that have
gone through, and we're not going to look at them just yet,

(08:34):
but of the eight teams that havegone through, yes, one or two,
guaranteed we'll go through to the next stage because that's
just how majors are. It is like it's always that way.
Yeah, there's there are some some bad teams in the stage too,
sure. But but like, none of the names
here blow me away really as a asa fan of some of them as well.

(08:57):
If if, if Stage 1 isn't made-up of teams that we think like, you
know, most of them that go through can go to stage 3,
what's the point? Other than it just being more
ways for Valve to make money which doesn't go back into the
game like. Yeah.
I mean, let's talk about this onthe price discussion, right,

(09:17):
But. Yeah, and you can read about it
in this week's Deep Dive, but. Beautiful plug.
Beautiful plug. Yeah, thanks mate.
But like the major isn't specialbecause OK, is it?
Here's a Here's a fun thing thatI looked at earlier.
There are 7 Tier 1 tournaments before the IEM Cologne Major.

(09:41):
How many of those 7 tournaments have millions?
Of dollars or. More prize pools.
I want to minus out whatever theblast 1 is, so I'd say 65 or 6.
7. 6-7 so all 7 do. All seven, I mean obviously some
of that is club share, which is like still prize pool

(10:04):
essentially. Prize was prize pool, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, all seven of them. There's like 2 PGLS, 2 Blasts, 2
or 3 ESLS. They all have $1,000,000 prize
pools. So what's special about winning
the major other than a little fucking trophy?
Like it's just, it's the major, whatever.
Like actually whatever when it we have to start out with a

(10:25):
fucking stage like this, it's a load of shite.
But as well, and because we needto mention it, fucking Star
ladder man. Like the first day of the
broadcast was an absolute mess. I'm going to get obviously
running at any event is is a lotof work.
There's far more moving parts than people behind the scenes

(10:46):
than anyone will appreciate. Even me who works at events,
like there's still so much more going on than even I really
understand right. And I'm going to give them as
much race as I can. But the issues you had on day
one, like a 2 hour attack pause,like just can't, can't happen.
There was issues in the beach. We were like half the rodeo and

(11:07):
stuff, which was bad. Then there was like the platform
specific casters, which is confusing to me because from my
understanding, at least with howthe broadcast is handled at the
events I've worked out, there's one main feed that goes to the
platforms. Yeah, it doesn't.
It doesn't make sense how that. They go to your platforms.
Like technically happen, right? And then there's the the closed

(11:30):
feed, which will go to Co streamers and stuff, whatever,
right? But yeah, it's, it's, it's not
good. It's not good.
They've recovered well, there's not been as many issues or
definitely nothing to that degree since day one.
But I think people have been so excited for the major.
I've been really excited for it.Like I was saying to you, some
right? It's not the last sort of three

(11:50):
months of CS. I've been really engaged and and
that's been really excited. Like obviously I've had quite a
busy year, but it's been a good time to be involved in Counter
Strike and I'm being like reallyinterested in this major being
quite, it's a good, good, good end to the year, I think, right.
And that kind of sours it when when the first day the event has
such such big errors and big issues.

(12:12):
There's also, because we've got to talk about it, the fucking
humiliation rituals. Yeah, I think exit interviews
are good. I think they're needed.
That's that's fine. I think that especially needed
when there's a mixer in this press there.
And I think press should get thecredit for that or, you know, be
able to have have that. But having the teams like take

(12:34):
down their logos from this wall,which apparently they're like
super strongly stuck to the wall.
And there's this this I don't know if we can play.
You can see all screen if you'rewatching but without the audio
there's this really somber pianomusic which is just like kind of
cringe. And remember the old like MLG
sad music? Yeah, it's that kind of shit.

(12:57):
No, but and they have to sign their names on some easel thing.
Like I get it's it's a cool thing and like maybe they can
give them they maybe they'll give away the sign things after
like that's kind of cool for fans, whatever.
But doing this on broadcast and I also feel for banks like
having to interview players whenthey're just like they've just
lost the tournament. It's like, oh mate, never good.

(13:19):
I. Mean.
I hope he's done the best he canwith.
That no, I hope he doesn't mind me saying this.
I was I was speaking to him earlier because so we, we posted
this and the retweet of it is mesaying like these segments are
diabolically shit. Like I, I, I, I don't
understand. My styles.

(13:40):
Yeah, yeah, and Banks replied. Like just doing my job, man.
I think it's not his fault. It's just not his fault.
Like he is doing the absolute best he can with these segments
and like he's getting shipped for it.
Like we, we spoke about it. He's like he, he just, he isn't
even sure what are the shots at him at this point, because like

(14:00):
these, these segments are just terrible.
And then you had like Amelia from limb vision crying his eyes
out. I, I don't want to watch.
I don't need to watch that. It's just it's working for
everyone involved. I'm fine with an exit interview,
but this year is just, it's likeunnecessary and as well, like do
you know what it feels? It feels like someone has
watched EWC and looked at the key crushing thing and has gone,

(14:23):
you know what? This is really cool.
It's really. Let's do that with none of the
good bits. And it's like, yeah, how, how
can we, how can we have this? But like, so it's not EWC.
And they've come up with humiliation rituals.
But the cool thing with EWC is the team that eliminate you.
Crush your key. So there's like the there's like
the yeah, we fucked you angle right.

(14:43):
This is just like, yeah, take your logo down from the wall.
Like I'd I'd be happier if they just had like the logo's like
just caught fire or something like that.
Like yeah, like a. Cool visual where they just
like, yeah, burn the logo or whatever.
Like, I mean, it's a bit disrespectful, but like, yeah,

(15:03):
fine. Yeah, it's it's just weird.
Don't like it. One thing I do like.
And also that that logo will, one thing is the it's the wrong
Navi logo, and I would have beenshouted at if I did that on
broadcast. But secondly is it's just going
to look very weird when half thelogos are missing and they're
just kind of all sporadically around the place.

(15:25):
Like it's not actually that fun of visual, unfortunately.
Yeah, enough shitting on that though.
The the tier has been good. The the event has been good
since since day one. Other than this.
Yeah, yeah, this. Nonsense.
And one thing I do want to say before we actually talk about
the teams themselves, I think Kick is now my preferred method
of watching Counter Strike. Kick is so good.

(15:45):
It's like it never buffers, it looks.
It's like, yeah, it's like if ifTwitch had none of none of the
issues and the layout was kind of what you what you'd want for
Legend platform. Yeah, it's really good.
I don't really understand what the fuss is about.
Which brings us on to the takingof the week by the way, just
because it really made me chuckle when he sent the message
and he's talking about YouTube. But taken said general question,

(16:09):
but why don't more people use YouTube to watch the game?
Like better bit rate and less lag, less overall ads and murky
responded emotes. Question mark take and just put.
Valid. Because unironically I don't
care what some troglodyte has toemote after a play, it's just
really good. Because I agree you have a
degree of mental illness if you are actually active in a twitch

(16:31):
chat. Yeah, like the.
Especially no, like, sorry, but especially a fucking TO's Twitch
chat. I get it if you're watching a
streamer who actually interacts with the chat and like, you
know. They kind of but like do you
know you know there's there's dangerous like jobless guys like
shooting into like Kaiser that stream yeah, just like super

(16:51):
involved. That's kind of weird yeah I mean
chatting to streamer when there's broadcasting is kind of
fun. But yeah, like talking to
talking to the void of TO is a bit do.
You remember when we were, we were watching the fucking
Fortnite guy, I don't think whathis name was.
I gave A4 TV. Yeah, I gave A4 TV.
So I'm going to give the context.
Yeah, this dude was doing a, he's doing like a stream

(17:13):
marathon, like a 24 hour stream on loop, whatever.
But you could use they call bitson Twitch like the channel
points, channel points and you could like wake him up and
stuff. So this poor guy we basically
taught. We were spending.
Money for like 4 or five days. Yeah, there's donations.
I was donating an adult and it was set off like a like A and

(17:34):
then it was like he was a girl writing.
It was like 1000 killed or something.
Yeah, he wasn't getting off Twitch and was only going to
play Fortnite for the entire time he was awake.
Or sleep on stream, yeah. And sleeping on stream.
Like visibly on stream and he's not a big streamer at all until
he reaches like yeah, yeah, until he reached 1000 kills, but

(17:58):
you could also pay to reset his kills.
So it was like multiple times hegot close.
You just took 200 off him. I remember the one time he was
on like 998 and a guy just wipedthe slate clean and he.
Ended up this guy's got he's got5K followers and he hasn't
streamed in like months. Was it like it was over 200 days

(18:18):
when it that he was on stream consecutively?
Yeah, yeah, it was like respect the hustle.
And I'm sure, I'm sure you've probably made a nice bit of
money out of it as well, but. But so like that, I completely,
I can understand it talking to HHN because it was great.
Like he was really entertaining to talk to and we we had a great
time. And he was like, no, please,
please don't donate. I'm like, I'm sorry man, 20
bucks. But like a fucking TO man, he's

(18:43):
like emo, like fucking who? Who was The Who was the guy he
used to play on like Mother Staror like the Portuguese scene
that like spammer dog emo, like I don't fucking know.
He's like he's got a stupid namethat sounds like Cocker spaniel.
I don't fucking know bro, but he's like like all this Cocker
shit, no. Idea what you're saying you

(19:05):
should all go and wear a cap, no?
I can't. All right, Charlie, cut that
out. Moving on, who did good?
Yeah. All right, we're going to talk
about the actual teams in the major now, and we're going to
start with the shit ones. Rare app.
Of which there are many. They went out, oh, free.

(19:27):
I just don't care. Who calls unironically?
Yeah, yeah, genuinely, this is this is.
I think they won a map. Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know. I.
They played with their coach. All I needed was for them to go
free to get a picking point. So thank you your service.
Your service has been greatly appreciated.

(19:47):
Yeah, Lean Vision actually a disappointment.
We will. We will take a second to talk
about them. 2nd over they over formed Austin massively and I
think like they were just kind of funny on broadcast.
People like oh, people seem to forget that like like Config in
his later years he was fun and people liked him, but he wasn't

(20:09):
good. Right.
Mainly because he was drunk all the time.
I'm not, you know. Allegedly.
Allegedly. But Linds and like, yeah, they
were just kind of fun. Amelia was standing on the desk
and shouting and and you know, it was awesome.
They weren't good. They weren't.
They weren't good. The field often was poor.
Really. Yeah.

(20:31):
Disappointing. Maybe they should have gone 11
to 3:00 instead. I just don't give a fuck.
Really. Yeah.
I mean they should have been phased phase of fucking dog shit
but yeah man I I just they did well in Austin off the back of
like 2 maps and some lucky wins.When they had a new I.

(20:54):
Was Nuke and something else? I can't remember what but like I
think this was gone by then anyway.
Wasn't. It I don't know, I maybe
probably think so. Fuck this either way, they're
just a known commodity now and O3 is probably still worse than
you'd expect because like fluxo red canids canids, whatever NRG

(21:20):
like there's a number of teams you'd expect to go O3 Oval
envision, but it's not like whenyou actually think about it and
I know I had them to go through and I think maybe you did as
well. I.
Think I did for the simulator, yeah.
But it's just like when you actually think about it again,
it's like, oh, OK, no, it it is quite fair.

(21:42):
Anyway, moving on one three teams, the Huns that are going
to talk about them couldn't giveless of a fuck.
If I'm being honest, I really don't care.
Red cannons shouldn't have gone 1/3.
They they should not have gone 1/3.
They should have been in the 2 two games.
Yeah, they had a really, really good, good start.

(22:02):
Honestly, that's the Fanatic, which is just fine.
They beat Yemen Legion really convincingly and then they lost
the Legacy, which were kind of close, and then they came
against Fury, against phase theycould have taken.
They they they were. They should have taken.
Honestly .457 seconds off winning it .452. 20 right?

(22:24):
Yeah, off A20 that was final round.
History was diffusing the bottomon base like Nuke and Carrigan
managed to kill him in the one V1.
Annoyingly, History had a smoke.If you had dropped the smoke,
you'd won the round. Those are the kind of plays
that, like, just haunt you for the rest of your career, don't
they? It's a shame.
Yeah, absolutely. I don't want to preface phase

(22:47):
too much, but from what we just said, you could see the phase.
We're at A12 game. It's not good.
It's not good. Yeah.
Not good at all. So yeah, red candids.
Pleasantly surprised by them. It was nice to see Che Jesus

(23:12):
perform to a best standard because he was fucking crap on
Imperial and Venom 0. All right, player, not bad.
And Drops been all right. He's never that good really, but
he's kind of had, I think he's RG Elling as well.
Right. He, he is.
And like with him and obviously Legacy we're going to talk about

(23:34):
in a minute. It's a bit of a disappointment,
but with him and Lux going on tobecome RGLS, there's some quite
nice storylines there. It's quite a good future for for
Brazil which? Is yeah it.
Seems like there's kind of not been not been.
In that sense. You know, yeah.
Anyway, the other one free team that we need to we we do we do
need to just game a legion. The the legion in the room like

(23:57):
elephant. Just awful.
Can the can gamers and ever get a a good oppa?
Their best oppa was a core. Seriously.
I think in the first day as well, it's not just the oppa I
was, I was talking to my friend.No, but it's historically it has
been the oppa, but now it's now it's.

(24:18):
More than that. But here's the thing right?
I was talking to our friend Daraabout this earlier because he
wrote a really good article on them and there is a point where
OK cursy bad, just just a bad play.
It was never going to work and whoever scouted him and actually
brought him in, unless it was truly enforced by budget is you

(24:40):
got to ask a question there. But Slend was not bad for a
time. He actually wasn't Hoypex.
Slend that a good start for sure.
And then like there was the weird visa thingy when they just
want to play they call. But yeah.
Hoypex, he's he's not coming in with like a phenomenal

(25:02):
reputation, but he wasn't as badas he's been.
So at some point you have to asklike I, I can't do what I do
about spirit and tenure and Swayand Zontix and magic.
So do what I do about Dexter andall the Orcas that struggle
under Dexter and not do the sameNow about ZTR and unfortunately
maybe also Ash, I can't. I can't pick and choose when I

(25:23):
do that just because I like them.
Yeah, and it seems as well like,like Ash is brilliant in so many
other ways that it's kind of. But it's a real shame if if
getting a functioning opera is something that he can't get in
his system. But also like like when when
when, when Cambridge has Chewie and Acor.

(25:45):
They were probably like overall better.
Obviously, Obviously they had better players in other spots as
well. Right.
Had Isaac then still as well. But like, yeah.
And it it does spell Emma. Did they have Isaac at that time
as well? Yeah, they did, but he's kind of
crap and it's quite. Sure, but this does this does

(26:06):
cast. I would say worry on the the the
100 thieves rumour that they wanted the game region core
because I mean, I've it means maybe 100 thieves can get them
for a lot cheaper now after after this result.
But I think this is definitely the last time we see this this
game region, this, this, this look for.
Sure. I think absolutely.

(26:28):
I mean. They have to.
I don't like. What else do they expect, right?
You can't. You can't not make a change like
even if even if you just you don't lose the core.
You've got to at least look to change that.
TR for Linus, honestly. I was just going to you going to
suggest Yeah, I. Think you should bash out
because The thing is. What is it with young ninjas

(26:51):
producing decent Igls? But yeah.
They got 4T rounds on the opening day of this major and
this isn't the first time the game legion of fucking sucked on
T sides. Like it's just like, you can't
really afford to suck at half ofthe game, can you?

(27:11):
Yeah, yeah. And so an interesting thing in
in Dara's article, which I'll just I'll just which.
Will be down below if you want to read it.
Yeah, yeah, it'll be down below,but I'll just pull it up so so
Charlie can get it was also their CT side win rates.
Here you go, Charlie. I'll, I'll put it in podcast

(27:34):
spam channel. So let me Scroll down and find
it. So obviously we know that
throughout the year, the CT sides have become a lot better
across the board. You know, there was the economy
change that that benefited them,gave them a little bit more

(27:54):
money. You have to Scroll down quite a
bit, Charlie. Yeah, to the next section.
Economy change gave them more money and generally just like
the the meta has shifted with Anubis going as well.
So CT sides look better across the board.
Game allegiance CT sides haven'tgone up, they've gone up by .1%.

(28:16):
That's also a bad sign. Yeah, like the meta's evolved to
a place where CT side is, is, let's say, easier by the
statistical measure, right. And then you've not improved.
So it's a really you've actuallygotten worse, right.
If everyone else has gotten better at something you haven't,

(28:37):
you've gotten worse. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and like if you, if you godown further, Charlie, you go
down further. The changes flipped all 7 active
duty maps to be CT sided. We've only trained Nuke and
Mirage being CT sided in the first half of the year right?
Game of Legion has been stagnantdespite playing overpass as

(28:57):
their first pick in the majorityof videos.
Overpasses are really CT sided. Math Yeah.
Their T sides have gone from 48.2% to 45.5 in the last three
months. Rez on the T side has dropped
from 1.12 to one point O1. And also on that rez, rez is
like end of Nip. He was also like particularly

(29:18):
weak on on the T side as well. And and also good of the top 30
teams game, Legion are ranked 28th for opening kill percentage
on the Teesside. These are awful stats.
These are really bad. There is something seriously
going wrong in that team where as well when you look at the

(29:40):
fact that like I think going into Austin or even coming out
of Austin, they were like 9th inthe world on HLTV.
Yeah. Now they are top.
Tennis, Yeah. It's also just like like they've
got PR who, who is one of those,you know, hot, hot names for the

(30:01):
sort of next couple of years to be, to be like a serious, you
know, big game player. Yeah, he's still worth, but
every pen like he's worth. Yeah, but with, without putting
our, you know, kind of our chickens before they hatch, as
they say, it's never good for a player's stock to be on a team
that that gets that bad. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and it obviously it must be systemic at that point,

(30:23):
right? Like like it can't just be like
like Rez was good at the start when he joined, which was great
for me. I was really happy to see that,
honestly. Yeah, me too.
And then it's just gone again. So I I, I'm I'm hoping that the
Corp gets bought out and they have a nice resurgence and
something fun happens. But I would in the world where

(30:43):
they with the where Rez, Rez PR and Thousand got 100 thieves.
I would be surprised if 12 minutes on the line, all three
of those players are still on the team.
Well, this is the thing, right? Towson has had a regression to
the mean in this major. I think he's one point past

(31:05):
three months before the major. He's like 1.11 or like one point
O 9, something like that. It's a bit of a boring.
Standing. Yeah, don't worry about it.
I. Just trust you, that's fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was looking at it earlier this
major nought .92 but he's just sucked red nought .98 so

(31:29):
obviously bad PR was 1.09 or something like that.
Like there's no concern about him whatsoever but.
And also like I think we do haveto talk about Hypex as well.
Should not be mentioned. It like he's better than Kersey,
but he's just like not good. And I get like it's bizarre that
that Ash's rifle scouting has historically been so good.

(31:54):
Like he's actually just plucked.These players are kind of out of
nowhere. Like what the fuck is PR doing?
Was he on like sinners or like, OK, so maybe he's someone else
is scouting at that point then, but it's like not it's really
not good. And and we've discussed it a
little bit before. I think we spoke about it with
Elliot last week, But like the impact and open makes at the

(32:16):
sort of different tiers of of the of the pro scene, right, You
can't have a non starting open at that at that level at all.
It's just not not viable at all.And I'm I'm sure have X has the
chance to to be good. But again, like just like going
from like again, like apogee to game region like that is like a

(32:38):
serious step up. And when game region was, you
know, is usually the sort of feeder team as well.
Like it's even more noticeable, right, If if you don't even make
it to to to the 1.5 level, right, Yeah, it's just it's it's
the end of this team. It has to be right?
No, I agree. I completely agree.

(32:59):
Should move on to the three two group. 100 thieves yes.
So what's the space? The 2 three teams, Fluxo sorry,
not going to talk about you don't care.
Well, I'm going to talk about them because they had a really
good start and then they lost three round.
Three. Oh yeah, that is.
Yeah, OK, that is the thing. They went 20223.

(33:20):
Which seems to always happen in this at the start of the major
as well. Yeah, I mean.
We're doing some and I working on a video about Furia, which
we've mentioned last week and obviously art is mentioned in
that a little bit. He's he's just not really
evolved really much at all. Like it's, it's a different

(33:41):
place to now because it would belike suicide if he was playing
the same way he was before. But yeah, it's, it's just not
exciting, unfortunately. I would be happy if it went
through, just would have been fun.
But I think this result is kind of what we all expected from
them, unfortunately. So yeah, I.
Mean it would have made Major worse if they'd have gone

(34:02):
through because like, this famous story ultimately will be
keeping us more entertained thanFluxo would, but yeah.
Yeah, I will say Luke Lukowsi, Iknow he's not meant to be like
one of their bigger names, but obviously like he had a lot of
impact at Austin on MBR in that famous game against Falcons.

(34:22):
I think he's actually pretty, pretty decent honestly.
But I don't know if he ever likerating wise, maybe not, but I
feel like he's kind of a big game player.
So maybe you want to keep an eyeon the future.
But Zevi's also kind of the mainthe main name of this team,
right? Yeah, maybe.
No, it's crap. Yeah.
So Fluxo aren't the only team togo 20223.

(34:45):
NRG also did. With the coach.
Important asterisk if we weren'taware of that.
Yeah, honestly such a shame theydid because like, yeah,
genuinely great effort from themon the.
Opening day they looked like really good, especially against
phase. They beat Nip and Phase and they
looked they just looked good. And then it gets the Bo freeze

(35:07):
and just it's just that much harder to win ABO free because
the mental hump that you have toget over when you're playing
with your coach and look NRG of of literally like 32 teams at
the major in terms of what you're losing to what you're
gaining. If you swap out your IGO for

(35:28):
your coach, NRG are probably in the top three for having Daps
there and like Mae with deaths, probably not that bad.
I don't know about anymore, but back in the day maybe.
Well, Death was playing at the highest level in a game more

(35:50):
free more recently than Daps. Child game.
No, this is true. He was.
Bloody good at it though, to be fair to him.
No, I, I I like that. I'm I'm, I'm already shouting
super fun but exotic. I honestly like like his event
starts aren't great, but in the opening two games he was like
really good and he was hitting like poker shots and like have

(36:13):
like, you know, when someone's in the spot with an open and
you're like, OK, he'll get one and get traded.
He just kind of would get would get 3 like more often than not.
I guess there's a reason, you know, they signed the chair
because he actually just is good.
This chairs got hands. Yeah, I think they all wanted

(36:36):
NRG to go through because they've been.
It would have been a fun story for sure.
One of the bright spots of a rubbish opening stage.
The final two free team though, because we have to talk about
them more, is legacy. So I just I had legacy as my 3 O
team. I don't think there was many
people in the world that didn't have legacy as a free OPEC.

(36:58):
Yes, I think. That's and they've gone out I'm.
Going to say they find the phrase recently bias but since I
mean they obviously took the mapoff for Talia lost in right?
And they've won an event, maybe 2 events.
They won CAC, right? They won CAC and got to the
final of. The one that the Mongols won, is
that correct? No 3D.

(37:18):
Was it Thunderpix Aurora? Aurora.
It was Aurora. It was the one of Aurora.
PGL was it? But fucked nowhere.
PGL, yeah, it was in the yes, yeah.
Is it just a good run of form kind of coming to an end?

(37:40):
Probably like? No, here's the thing.
Here's the thing. I've said.
I've said the line, I've said the line.
Here's the thing, right? Putting.
Putting this to fucking bed. Yes, some degree, some degree
recently biased, but when you look at the field and then you
look at the field. Within.
Oh, you should have got some. Free bias Freo probably is a
reasonable pick, right? Yeah, but here's the thing when

(38:02):
I wrote the deep dive. Again.
Last week I'm doing it's a bit now, mate, calm down.
Here's the thing. When I wrote the Deep Dive last
week talking about the favorite for the major and I included
Legacy as a courtesy, I said in that something along the lines
of people are right now confusing Legacy for a good

(38:23):
team, but the fact is that they won an event with an incredibly
weak field where looking at thatevent at the start of it, you go
fucking hell. Liquid might actually be the
favorite for an event. If Liquid are the favorite for
an event, that event is not worth considering the result of.
The the Fraser Well, well done. He's 13, comes to mind, right?

(38:46):
Yeah, yeah, and, and PJ Blue Crest as well.
Like if that was, I'm sure it was a tournament.
Also a terrible field. Aurora won it for fuck's sake.
But there's one thing we know ofAurora is that they just can't
win a fucking event. And and this is this is the
thing, right? Elliot, who's who's not here now

(39:06):
because he's like got asleep or some shit.
He commented when I, when I wrote it saying well isn't a
sign of a good team typically, you know, taking advantage of a
weaker field and capitalizing onit or whatever the fuck I wrote
in the day. No it's not.
No, the sound of a good team is beating over fucking good teams
and legacy haven't actually beaten anyone good.

(39:29):
It's kind of yeah, it's it's or.Maybe they beat free D Max to
win CAC. If you only, if you only beat
shit teams, you're just the bestof the shit teams, right?
It's still a shit team. Yeah, yeah.
The best Legacy could have hopedfor is to have been like a new
gatekeeper team until they beat.Anyone back or a?
Current free D Max. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're not that. No, they're not that like.

(39:52):
I will say though, the series that we've just finished
watching their 22 game against power vision, which saved my
pickams. So thank you legacy for for
losing real game of margins likethe dust 2 overtime.
The third map could have gone either way.
Every times they choked hard, but a lot of the rounds were
very good. So I think it's unfair to say

(40:13):
that they're like not good, but it's certainly disappointed.
I think they lost games. They should.
It's fair to say they're not good if you have an elite
mentality. I like that.
I'm not even going to retort. That's good.
Fantastic. If you move on, that's this
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(42:41):
That that that's the segue. How?
Many people have fly question M80 so I fucking didn't
probably. Some, some some Australians.
Well yeah, I mean there's alwaysdeluded cunts in their own.
Country I know I made it going through but but not three.
Oh yeah, if you've got both 30 picks correct, I'm going to

(43:01):
assume you are like, fond of. If you've got both 30 picks
correct, please give me the number of your weed dealer
because it's time for me to relapse.
Well, no, it's not weed, is it? Whatever that.
Yeah, well, quite. So here's here's the thing,
right, I've done it again. I only had M80 to go through out

(43:22):
of these two teams, but I think going through is also the
minimum expectation for both teams.
And ultimately it doesn't matterif they do it three or three two
like that. Ultimately they they they just
they did well in best of ones. M80 almost choked to bait.

(43:45):
I don't really remember them playing paravision.
They. Kind of bullied NRG though when
they be a free. Fly Quest beat Legacy which is
good and then they beat Imperialwhich is good but then both
teams play Fluxo and NRG like inthe nicest way.
Funnily enough, both teams that went from 2O to 2/3.

(44:07):
I think that's kind of worth noticing, right?
Yeah. They they've beat teams that
they qualified by being team that didn't even go through so.
Yeah. So there's something, there's
something to be said about that.I think the major actually does
start for them now if they make it through Stage 2, I think I'd

(44:29):
be impressed with either one of them, honestly.
And I would expect it more from M80.
I would too, but I think if thismajor has been anything to to go
by, don't expect anything, right, I'll expect that.
What I want to say. I will say that like like on fly
quest, since they got as a coaching and I'm not a huge on

(44:51):
him as a coach or even reader, Honestly, I don't think he's
he's all that pretty good. We haven't seen a lot of them
internationally for for for a little while.
So they were at they were at Bucharest and they came like 9th
to 11th. I think, like not good.
Obviously that's the last time we've seen them in a long time,

(45:18):
but they're good. I and I think since JKS joined
there, there was some real struggles.
I think JKS basically like fuck Nethic who was like that star
pre JKS out of spots and I haven't checked the data.
One of the more intelligent stats pivots can do that for me,
but I think they've they've reconfigured the setup a little
bit to allow Nethic and JKS to both thrive, which like after

(45:41):
you kind of, you know, discussedin in the previous weeks, like
you need to kind of to have two stars right in most systems,
plus Europa generally and Vexitehas been kind of taking these
opening duels and being a bit more aggressive, which is is
working out in the favour. He's kind of taken like a
slightly more least dunk play a cell where he's kind of just

(46:02):
going like. And I've always been I've always
been really harsh on Dunk Dunk on Vexite as well.
He he was pretty lights out in this stage.
You really can't criticise him. And I think he's been a lot
better recently in general. Like I remember writing an
article about him a year or two ago where basically he had worse
numbers than Hoochie is that's how bad he was so much better

(46:26):
now. And it's where like credit where
credit is due to fly quest. I criticise them in that article
because I said that it was when they they literally made like
fucking top 16A pro league and the Aussies were jerking
themselves off over it where it's like OK but this team will

(46:46):
never. Do any one mid Sorry no, no they
won't. I will say just I don't think we
need to it's like is the highestrated player of stage one.
Yeah, I did. Its four maps but he's 164
rated. Anyway.
That's very good. My point was like W have done a
genuinely good job at improving this team over time.

(47:09):
JKS absolutely needed to come back to this team for it to
finally all come together and I feel like it is now that Netek
is performing again. Regali is a really solid author
for them. Like David.
Harley would have been a good pickup for Game of Legion
honestly. They might struggle to keep hold
of Regali because he is genuinely really good.
And even when they got even whenthey got netting Netek was a

(47:31):
massive jump up for them from ifthey get rid of Dexter, it was
Dexter. They got rid of Dexter.
Like all of their moves have been such massive step UPS on
who they've replaced and it's like they've done exactly what I
wanted them to do. So I actually kind of like
Flight Quest because they they are operating the right way.

(47:56):
I'm going to not go that far because I feel like if I start
like a team they just tend to stop being bad because God is
punishing me. But.
Punish you too if I was him, butyou know.
I bet you would. Good for them to go through.
I think where it gets more exciting, though, more
interesting is the three one andthree two teams though segue.

(48:20):
Yes, right, fanatic. I'm not going to talk about you,
Jack Can if you want, but in my eyes you can go fuck.
Go fuck. Apparently, yeah, Fanatic will
be a full Ukrainian team by 2026.
Maybe, maybe, maybe by it's likea month by by the club major,

(48:44):
they'll be fully Ukrainian. What are the conditions for that
to happen in your eyes? In terms of what?
Like what is up to them or? OK, OK, let me let me rephrase.
Do they go full Ukrainian out ofwant or necessity?

(49:10):
Criminals on the team. So there's there's an answer to
part of it. The other player, you have a
Glen F, right? One of them is very good.
One of them is not very good, but is legacy name brand, right?
I just think they're leaning towards that, right?
Like the Jacasmo signing, like whatever we want to just call it

(49:31):
was absolutely cronyism. Just not a good assume.
Like they've they've gone done well, but like they kind of
struggled a little bit. I'm not saying they would have
done like way better with with Cypher as well, but there is
done better than well. They would have done better with
with Cypher and Chasma than theywould have done with.

(49:52):
Well, yeah, it's it's it's like when you've got the the thing of
the owner or whoever it was coming out and being like, well,
look, it was either Cipher and Jacasmo or Crimson Jacasmo.
These aren't equivalent players.Like what are you talking about?
This wasn't these this isn't an overall this is APR like we've
got to cover our own backstage because we're getting a ton of

(50:13):
shit. It was cronyism and I I see here
Charlie has brought up the when we are as a free we are speaking
Ukrainian all the time quote from Jacasmo and what I what I
want to say to that is like thisis a smart headline from HLTVI
don't know who did the interview.

(50:34):
This is this is this is gotcha journalism, right?
It might be our old mate Harry who did it.
I think he does the opening stages majors.
But this is this is quickbait innocence because it it it's
praying on that hatred, but it. Was a Jean.
Jean wrote it some some live. How don't you say it but.

(50:55):
Oh, OK. Yeah, but like do you not think
Kesra are in Euro? Euro Yuri speak to each other in
Portuguese when they're in A2 VX?
Do you not think Apex and Zaibu speak to each other in French?
Well, there's something vitalitydo in practice, which they spoke
about in a vlog was they do, they'll do they.
Just piss about speaking in. Their they do own language

(51:16):
rounds, yeah, which I think is quite cool actually, to sort of
see how your communication and and like I guess team team
sensibilities are outside of woods, which is cool.
Yeah, this is a good headline for sure.
But I do think like like this, this is what's built the end of
the drum of the Danish Optic project when it was like them
and Stanislaw and someone else. Yeah, because it's it's the

(51:42):
issue, the issue they had there was it was Stanislaw and.
Was it Shazam? Shazam.
It was Stanislaw and Shazam withconfig.
Test occasion B No not has such gate.
Yeah, Gate. Yeah, I think Tessa's were in
before or after that different liner because it was the MSL or

(52:03):
Snappy Yeah, MSL one where what happens is you just have two
conflicting cultures because Denmark and Sweden aren't so far
apart and Vitality had the same thing.
So I woo Apex, Masuta and. Magic and debris.

(52:26):
Magic and debris you you need more than two cultures in a team
otherwise you get a culture class and you don't get a team
that can properly mix. So I think the likelihood of
what happens is that Australis football fanatic to go Ukrainian
Australis will by blame it. I think is is probably what

(52:51):
happens because I think they will soon come to the
realization that we all know is true.
You cannot hope to be a title contending Danish team without
blame F is. Say what you like about Blame F
and the fact he's never won fuckall whatever, he is the best
player in Denmark. Honestly, I'm not even argue I I

(53:15):
I'm. Quite comfortably.
So he's comfort like it's, it's not even close.
So like you kind of need him, kind of need Tesses when he
inevitably loses his spot and then we can actually start
talking about like Australis again because like hooksy Tesses
blame F device, who is still serviceable on the level of

(53:37):
orpas these days, if not more inconsistent nowadays.
And a a fifth player. It's not a bad team at all.
It's really not a bad team at all.
No, it's not. Anyway.
Enough for that. We didn't talk about them.
Yeah. Yeah.
Also, yeah, just fuck for that. Just just as per Cypher.

(53:58):
And we can keep on with the Ukrainians bait.
They were OK. Like they're inconsistent.
Sometimes they looked way too good for the stage, sometimes
they looked awful. That the M80 game, they looked
absolutely abysmal. Head Trick has performed a lot

(54:18):
better, which is a good sign forthem.
And so as Ken Sisor. He had some slow starts, but he
also put some games on his back,which when we talk about, you
know, fanatic, go for Ukrainian.He's a name I'd definitely look
at if I was Samuel's son. Over the fox.
That GM. Yeah, well, because he's he's,
it's aggressive start, right. But the interesting thing about

(54:40):
it is that he's now taking 10% less opening jewels.
He's still the holiest, but he was taking like a ridiculous
degree. And it's clearly beneficial for
him because now it's not just like throw Kensis or at the wall
and see what he can actually hiton on his way there.
I'm I'm sure I can have to checkthe data but I guess clutch such
will be way better now because he was also alive more and

(55:03):
winning more clutches at least just from watching the games it
felt like. Yeah, yeah.
So it's clearly a benefit for them.
Still see them going out in the next stage.
But yeah, they did what was expected of them.
Nip, you go with them because they they're your team, so.
They are. I mean, I'm.
Intrigued to hear what you say. I've got I've got my own take to

(55:26):
get to. But yeah, you can take the floor
first, mate. They never should have lost to
NRG. Realistically no, just just just
shouldn't have. I think this team is is still
one move from being pretty pretty solid as a 1.5 sort of
gatekeeper team. Kaspersky is is legit.

(55:47):
He's really good. I think any doubts about him
were were were were were quelledquite quickly.
Wrinkles had a pretty good tournament.
He he's missed a few. He had a pretty pretty bad
series against them against phase, I think, but he's also
like been a very good signing. Snappy's making it work in in
this team. I do think Ajax is the weakest

(56:09):
link, but he also just had some good performances.
He he got some clutches. He was having some really
impactful rounds. So I'm not going to call for his
head just yet and shush again. I think he's one of the most
underrated players. I think he's one of the bad
players in in Denmark. I do would like to see Tessa's
replace your jokes in in the future.
I think that's like a very good role for role swap.

(56:30):
And I kind of just want the teamto have a somewhat Nordic call,
even though I prefer to be Swedish.
But they won't be winning thingsin the Swedish.
Yeah, the phase game I think is testament to to their their prep
and their practice as well. Yeah, better without you.
Listen, they haven't got top 8 yet, right.

(56:52):
So we'll see that match against failure.
Yeah, it was overpass and I think they just rotations,
timings, counters, steps and stuff, which is perfect.
They've already done their homework.
Obviously that's a little bit worrying that phase were so

(57:13):
easily counted. It was 30 and 8, which I don't
think is like that crazy of a score line, but against the team
with the star power, supposedly a phase like on paper compared
to what Nip have, I think that'squite, quite a good win to get.
OK. Your turn to to prove me wrong.

(57:36):
I've not really I've not really got this shit to to prove you
wrong. I've.
Just also Ujix got 6 kills against phase, another pass.
Yeah, I've, I've just got some opinions on them, right?
And my opinions are, I'd say, pretty simple.

(57:58):
I like this team. I do.
Good. I'm not sure I believe in this
team. They have done what they needed
to in being here. But like, OK, let me does get
worse in the past three months. Past six months is better, but

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last three months they've played31 maps.
Wrinkle has a naughty .96 you jerks. 1.08 Kaspersky 1.18
Kaspersky is a genuine star, youjerks.
Maybe he's good enough and last six months for the sake of it.

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Shush goes up from 0.98 to 1.06 in the last six months, and
Wrinkle goes up to 1.07. So there are things in this team
that do work but maybe don't work all the time.
I think there's just one or one or two players away from being
like where I know Snappy wants them to be.

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And how long can you hold on to Kaspersky before you get those?
Because improving on Wrinkle is going to be incredibly hard.
This is this is the issue. If if wrinkle struggles more
against big teams, well, you're not going to improve on him
either. So like, that will become a
ceiling. If you jerks, you can't help him

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get impact against big teams consistently, that's also going
to be a problem. So yeah, I'm just, I'm just not
sure I believe that. Can they become a gatekeeper?
Yes. But that is not good enough for
what Snappy wants them to be, and it's not good enough for
what the NIP organization wants them to be.

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So I'm not sure I necessarily really believe in this project
as much as I like it. Does that make sense do.
You think they make it for the next stage?
I think of the teams that have gone through.

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They have the, I think, I think of the teams that have gone
through, there are three teams that are most likely to go
through to stage 3. One of those teams I think could

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also just crash out. That team is Fly Quest.
I think the other two teams are Mae and Nip.
Cool. OK.
So yeah, and the final bracket is the free 2 bracket.
I think we can Imperial. We're not really going to talk

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about you, Paravicius. Thanks for.
The Pickems. Thanks for the pickems, Cheers
for the pickems, cheers for the pickems.
Cheers for an entertaining last game of the stage.
Although fuck you for making it take so long.
I do, actually. No, actually, I do want to
quickly just say Jane. I fucking want to boring
perverse player Jameis. Oh what a general like Jame is

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such a weird paradox because he's simultaneously like
overrated to all fuckery but also severely underappreciated.
Not underrated, underappreciated.
I don't think he gets he's. Necessarily enough to stage 2.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my God, is he overrated.
Like, Oh yeah, but he won a major and like, occasionally VP
looked good. Yeah, but VP were also crap.
They were crap. They were a team that, yeah,
were maybe making playoffs in a week time in Counter Strike.
They were never winning events. They were only winning
challenges. Challenges, yeah.

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And they they won a major that is probably the worst major of
all time probably. It's good fun to be there, but
yeah, it wasn't it wasn't a great.
Game yeah, I'm sure it was good fun to be there because you were
just eating barbecue and watching like, I don't know what
what did you go and see one night didn't you didn't you go
see a gig? Him I.
Didn't go and see Arctic Monkeys, but a few people did.

(01:02:26):
Arctic Monkeys played in the in the arena the day before we set
up. Yeah.
No, I didn't go unfortunately. But like, fucking hell man, he
lurks with an orp for fuck's sake.
Like I kind of fucked with one. In that last.
In that. Last game against Legacy inferno
was such a mess because the CT sites there was a round where

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everyone else was on a bike. He's just got like a fucking
P250 armour and a smoke and the entire game plan is to save.
Now this would be fine if they weren't already 10 five down.
Just he had. He had.
At. Least 3000 in the bank.
Buy a fucking M4 and go for the round you cunt.
You are 10 five down. There's a round and does too

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where it's it's A1V4 for Jay andhe's only just walking out along
with you and he just like gets around the corner and then just
turns around and saves. I just.
Look. I love his commitment to the bit
I got. I've got to applaud it in that
way. Look and.
And this is where the paradox continues.

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VP were not wrong to kick Jayme,but it was also the worst thing
they could have ever done right Well.
They haven't got any better sense of this so to be.
Kicked for him, but he's just like, there's always going to be
a limit. With Jane, because he just.
His style. His style operates in the same

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way that Carrie, it insists uponitself.
Well, yeah, it insists. Upon itself and before.
Beltinok woke up in that game against Legacy.
They look, thank you. Thank you for doing that.
Yeah, they look so down. And out and.
I just don't think that's good. I know they've been very.
Consistent playing against absolute fucking bums online,

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but I don't think that's good when you get to this level and I
think they may struggle in the next stage anyway phase I'm I'm
just going to I'm just going to talk for a second.
You can do that because I'm. Going to I.
Honestly don't think. It would be that bad if they

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sold their entire roster and just backed out of Counter
Strike. This team is that.
Bad. It is that terrible.
Like Carrigan needs to retire. It's it's fucking over.
It's it's so over with Carrigan and I quote, he has to go blood.

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He he does indeed have to go blood.
Brokie is fucking terrible. Like he he's so done in top
level CS. So Jacob also just completely
lost. Like fair play to fucking
Kerrigan's misses because that must have been some good suck
for Kerrigan to just completely ignore all of his instincts

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about Counter Strike. Well I've done it now so fuck
off. Twists, frozen, fucking allied.
Get yourself the fuck out of this team because you are so
much better than it. Get both of you get on the phone
to Navi. Just get yourself over there.
Like go and play with Alexi B and have a good time.

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I just want to touch on a rumor that's.
Circulated among circles that the reason face bench rain and
sign Jacob was because of twistssalary expectations and that
they can't afford to keep both rain and twists.
But this, so this is I have no evidence if that's that.

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Claim is is is. Substantial or not, but I, I.
Don't think it's unreasonable, honestly.
Yeah, but this is not good luck.But, and just because Charlie.
'S brought foreign to it here saying.
Brokey. Has bad numbers for an IGL,
never mind an awful with an expensive gun who goes first
slash early less than seemingly every other tier one author.

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This is a historic level of bad.He's now like cursy levels.
Fucking Smith's levels. Whoever the fuck you want to say
like he's awful and just on the third levels than looming levels
in. Fact.
He might make me look good. The Latvian looming.
So Shiro has a opening kill. Percentage of 12% or opening

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attempts, percentage of 12% on the Teesides brokie is 8%.
The guy, the guy's a waste of time.
He's a waste. Of time at this point.
And like I just don't, I don't know what phase do because.
Jacob, clearly. Isn't good good enough.
Carrigan is gone, Brokie is gone.
You need to replace free players.

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So maybe, just maybe, if they had a player who wants to
transition to an IGL, maybe theyshouldn't have sold him.
Maybe they shouldn't have let him go to 100 fees.
Maybe they should have kept him and been like, you know what?
You can be our IGL. Carrigan off you fuck.
Maybe that's what they should have done.
It will be a good day. 100 Thieves inevitably line up

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against phase. In in a bracket and they just
fuck out of them. Kick fuck out of them, yeah.
Yeah. Well, I think like I don't have.
To actually you, you, yeah, I don't.
I don't want to talk about it more because.
It will make me angry. But I would like to bring bring
up the take of the week because I think this is a great final
point to leave them on. This is the Greg's Festivate
sponsored to take this come from.

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Rory festive bait. Greg's where he said replacing
Carrigan will be tough but a nought .85 rating in the last
three months is a liability. Low key see how much the MAT
core go for and try to get SIM lake and slacks.
Now this is really really unlikely because that is an

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expensive core. M80 do not have cheap buyouts
but if you do sell frozen and maybe even twist I don't know
sin like slacks and then hexed you become an NA team.

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And Swisher, the major just signNA.
Team Yeah. But you become an NA team.
You're guaranteed to be at the major and you can slowly upgrade
again phase. This is probably the best
outcome for you at this point because you are not good.
You are not going to be good andFrozen is not going to sign

(01:08:52):
another contract so you're just going to have exactly what
happened with Robs and twists where they're going to leave for
fuckle and you're going to look like Dick heads again.
Does phase have AGM? Or is it?
Is it just? Is it?
Just Carrigan. Well, it's like.
No, he's a team Eddie. 'S A-Team Eddie, right?
Yeah, I don't really. Have to say over the.

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Decisions they're making becausethey've just historically made
very appalling ones. Yeah.
So like, I actually, I really like this take.
I think sin. Lake and Slacks would improve
the team. It's a genuine aggressive star.
Like if you get those 3. With frozen and twist, I
actually think this team could do some real fucking damage.

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Slacks is better than Brokie, which I can't believe I'm
fucking saying yeah, because you're not.
You're not on the tracks and Frozen twists and.
Frozen are superstars and Lake has the potential to be a.
Superstar and I really like Sin.I think you get rid of Neo as
well. Bring death in, it's pretty
good. Honestly it's a little good,
good for the fan base for like phase.

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Phase are American like I know it's not even.
Like an American. Core really is it, but like
Lake's kind of a. Lake.
Will need to leave NA if he wants to.
Have a successful career. I feel to the potential he has
so I think it makes sense. I'd like to see a core of Mai
think go to a. Stronger team.

(01:10:16):
I think it's just this phase. This gammon Asian.
Maybe definitely those two teams, but I don't think we.
That these can't be the visions we see going into next year,
going into the cracker and stuff?
No, I agree. It just can't be right.
Let's bring this. Podcast to an end with
something. Fun Charlie bring.

(01:10:36):
Up the major predictor please. OK, click on stage 2.
We haven't seen the. Opening games, by the way.
Or at least I haven't. We have now.
Oh, Aurora M80. That's interesting liquid.
I just go down, drive away. Yeah.
M80 take that. Aurora are.

(01:10:57):
Cold stars frequently M80 on a good, yeah.
So have M80 written in that I think.
Navi will just five. Power fly quest I think it'd.
Probably be closer than it should be, but I think Navi
should take that, yeah. Bait beet liquid.
That I'm not sure, Ron. Fnatic 3D Max is a.

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Fucking that's a toss up, Bennett.
I think Fnatic will have it, no?No, I think free D Max, free D
Max, Australis, NIP Nova toss upgenuinely.
Really depends what australis you get.
I'm going to go for NIP though. I'm happy to for you to take
that result and. Take that decision for me.
Tyloo Paravision, Jane Will. Perve that game to a win.

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So paravision MIBR imperial MIBRpassion UA phase.
I can't believe this is a game Ihave to think about in 2025.
I am going to say. Charlie, let me just see some

(01:12:08):
click on phase, yeah? Yeah, they win that one.
They lose against Navi. They ain't.
Winning two best of ones. I know.
Faye's clan. Yeah.
Cool. 3D Max will beat. Paravision.
Yeah, because it just got more experience.

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NIP will beat MIBR. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And MAT will. Beat bait again.
Yeah, O1. Aurora.
Aurora, Imperial. Liquid Beat Fanatic.
Liquid beat fanatic. Stralis beat Fly.
Quest, I don't know passion's. Beat Tyler though.

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And passion. You may beat Tyler.
Think 3D Max take M80 they go 3 O you reckon?
Well, like 3. D Max are well rested now.
Like 3D Max. Are a good team and also you
should just don't put a favoritein.
A Frio slot, right? I feel like that's something

(01:13:13):
we've learned. And Navido beat Nip.
Yeah, I'm fine with that. Bait.
Passion UA, That's got to be. Bait, surely?
Yeah, yeah. Phase liquid liquid I kind.
Of want to say phase. No liquid.

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Liquid. Liquid.
No. I'm happy with Liquid.
Aurora Paravision That's an interesting one.
It just depends which team showsup on it's.
It's like such a. Smelly game, honestly.
Such a really stinky game, I'm going to say.
Honestly, Paravision. Oh.
I was going to say. Aurora.

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Charlie, you decide. You make your pick.
OK, Paula, Paula, he's gone for Para Vision.
Charlotte's beat MOBR. I think, yeah.
Charlotte's beat MOBR. And then like crispy imperial
like. Crispy imperial and fanatic beat
Tyler I think. I don't think Tyler.
Yeah, I agree, fanatic. Beat Tyler.

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If you could change that one, please produce Charlie.
OK, MIT paravision. That's interesting.
I'm going to say MAT. Because they've impressed me.
I don't think power vision. Power Vision should have done
better than they did. They should have one more
cleanly. So I think they could choke out
here, I'm going to say. Liquid do beatnip.

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Yeah, I shouldn't. Have a belt on your favorite
team right so. I'm happy to go with that, Yeah.
And I think a Charlotte be bait.A strong speed bait phase do
beat MIBR fly quest. Do beat passion UA?

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And Aurora. Aurora.
Beat fanatic. Yeah, Cool.
I'll put that. Nip, Aurora.
Now I'm going to bet on my team and pick.
Nip I. Want to go for Aurora?
Charlie, you. Decide he's sticking with Aurora

(01:15:31):
Bait Fly Quest. Bait, bait, Yeah.
Paravision phase, I think. Phase somehow.
Stink it through again man fuck.Phase somehow stink it through
again. I agree.

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So that leaves us with Navi 3O with 3D Max free one, M80, Team
Liquid Australis 32 Bait Phase Kind, Aurora 2 free NIT
Paravision, Fly Quest one, Free Fanatic, MIBR, Passion UA and O3
Imperial and Thai Loop. Personally, I think that looks

(01:16:14):
all right. It's not a problem, no.
Pickups are fucking hard these days man.
Now. Now that you can't do.
The the you know. Yeah, yeah, 33-O team gets you a
point either way. Yeah, it's just.
It's but even. This even this field.
Is 3 points. On the final.

(01:16:35):
Day, Does this stay major to you?
No, not really. But with three points on the
final. Day Sure, we are both.
Still in the Diamond Race. So I think with that, it's time
to fuck off. I've got a newsletter, right?
I'm fucking shattered. Yeah, I've got bad to have.
We will be back normal time. Next week.

(01:16:56):
Because the days of the major work.
But sorry for the delay if you actually missed it this week,
you sad little bastards. But for the few days we'll be
away, I will remain Sam. I'll try to remain Jack
hopefully and Charlie will May. Or may not remain.
Charlie will face much confusionduring that time, but he will
most. Likely remain Charlie James

(01:17:18):
hasn't made a thumbnail this week because it's Thanksgiving.
But James, I'm thankful for all of you, James and subscribers.
Just to add, I'm thankful. For all of you, thanks for
watching, enjoying what we do. I'm thankful for the ones of you
that subscribe and like and comment.
Because you help out algorithms,the rest of you go fuck
yourself. All right, See you on Tuesday.
All Wednesday. See you guys.

(01:17:40):
Good night. None.