October 22, 2025 • 60 mins
On this week's episode of Overtime on Inferno, Jack, Elliott and Sam discuss electroNic's move to BC.Game. Will his addition make them the angriest team ever? Elliott certainly thinks so.
Our hosts got tired of VRS this week, so instead they decided mentioning DeadFox in the current year was a good idea.
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00:00 intro - was k0nfig any good?
11:43 CS Asia Championships review: FaZe, Heroic, 3DMAX
31:53 Thunderpick review: FURIA, NAVI
48:05 BC.Game sign electroNic
55:08 Take of the week
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(00:00):
Boys have a very, very importantquestion.
Fucking hell. What is it?
Was config any good? Sometimes, I mean he was a
dickhead but he was all right with his hands wouldn't he?
Multi bars after a few drinks. Yeah, well, I think didn't he
get beaten up though? So I guess he wasn't regular
(00:21):
with his hands would be the actual I mean.
But he's his leg that got hurt, so his legs that were the
problem. Yeah.
I will say there's. Some kickboxing lessons.
Colloquially, the stairs next tothe hotel where probably
happened was referred to as the convict staircase by certain man
for a long time. I mean.
(00:41):
By the man who beat him up. So we.
Yeah. We we've got the, we've got the
retirement interview on screen, right?
What a load of horseshit this interview is, by the way.
Very long. Hopefully someone can shorten it
and compress it for people who don't want to read it because
(01:02):
it's too long. No, but like so it paints Config
as this really sympathetic figure and then obviously he did
that on Twitter as well, which is fine, right?
That's going to be his perspective.
But let's not pretend like this this guy didn't just repeatedly
get drunk and and cause issues. Like yes, we only know of one in
(01:22):
the public sphere because that was the only one that got
reported on. But like, let's not pretend like
this didn't happen. Let's not pretend like it wasn't
a recurring problem Config had. I mean, I've always really liked
him and I, I think in my limitedinteractions with him, he was
always really nice. So I feel like maybe it was
(01:43):
just. Yeah, same.
I I had positive interactions. With oh, he's never punched me,
Yeah. Yeah, great.
Yeah, but. OJ Simpson didn't kill me.
Still don't think he's a nice guy.
A career where he's said the thequote from the headline is he
wants to be an accounting agent so he doesn't want to see anyone
(02:03):
else go through what he's gone through if.
But it was self-inflicted. Yeah, if you continue to make
the same mistakes, you know, patent recognition, patent
recognizers go crazy. But like, there's a common
dominator, right? I feel like there's a few
letters missing off the end of the headline and it should have
a like instead of breaks you, itshould be breaks your leg, yeah.
(02:26):
Like, I don't know man, I know people are always like
sympathetic towards themselves or whatever, but the guy just
had a problem with drinking and yeah, you.
Can allegedly that's not that's not liable, but.
Sure you can. You can talk about it.
As well. Yeah, because allegedly fixes
that. In, in terms of not being on
(02:49):
better teams, you know, because he was on North and some other
garbage. Listen, Elliot.
All I'm saying I'm. Pretty sure you made a joke
about it in the newsletter last night.
I can neither confirm nor deny his.
Edited in after I did you. Know was was was the last
chance, right? And it went abhorrently and that
(03:10):
NIF team was abhorrent. It was really, really evil and
bad. But yeah, no, that was I, I
think I described it in the newsletter as possibly the worst
team ever constructed to competeat Tier 1.
Compete is really generous, isn't?
It well, yeah, but that my pointis that it was that it was
supposed to compete at tier one.Like obviously there are worse
teams constructed, but I don't think there are worse teams
constructed that. With the expectation.
(03:31):
Of with the. Expectations that they have.
Isn't it crazy, though, that without the power of pure hatred
from Newark, it still would havemade a major playoffs?
Yeah, but but also if Nork is denying you, I like Nork,
respect. I like Nork, but you shouldn't
(03:52):
like you shouldn't be denied a top 8 at a major by Nork.
Do you know what I mean? If you're these you don't like.
Sure. But the.
Three of us know how hard hatredcan go.
Do you know the last time that NIF got top 8 at a major?
Move on. It just runs the intro before we
talked. About it all right, well after
(04:22):
the intro we have we've discussed and we are going to
allow Jack to talk unfortunatelyso.
Getting my soap. Go, go ahead.
I just think. Actually, no, I've.
Yeah, thinking is dangerous, butI think Config was always the
label that he was the biggest. What if I think is just a bit
(04:43):
ridiculous. It's a bit of a reach, but a
config game where he plays well is like some of the best Counter
Strike to watch. He's so fun to watch.
When he was good, the issue was it was like maybe in like 1
Series per event if you're lucky, and it was usually like a
group stage game. I don't know, it's it's a shame,
(05:09):
but also like after the nip thing and also.
So yeah, I wanted to make a point about this.
So he was brought on as an emergency sub for Nip, right.
I think it was during a Cato I believe was the.
Three-year emergency sub Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was, yeah. His contract was three years
long, which I'm not going to sayhow I know that, but I've.
I've been told that and that's another issue with, you know,
(05:34):
rules being kind of like disregarded by teams and stuff
right, like we spoke about kind of a length lately, but I always
thought that was a little bit fucking shady because I believe
he was replacing Hampus, right? Hampus without sick, yes, and
obviously they're like. I get sick of playing for Nip
and like he. Came back and he was like, yeah,
the two fucking sucks and now he's like benched on joining
(05:55):
speeds or some shit. But yeah, I don't know, like
that that Nip team, like I thinkwe're, we're all fans of of
modern day Nip, like this current iteration, I think we
all kind of root for them a little bit.
But for a long time, NRP was just fucking how much shit can
we pile on top of each other to make it something kind of not
(06:17):
shit? And it's always going to be
shit, isn't it? Can I just say, by the way,
Hampus is on a much more cursed team than the bench of Johnny
Speeds. Where is he?
Do you know what he's doing right now, Jack?
I've seen. I definitely see it.
Me, me and Elliot have seen it. Let me get it on.
Screen, I'd like a reminder. Oh, he's on.
Yeah, he's on the the Radar team.
(06:39):
Look at that. Ain't that fantastic?
No, no, sorry. That team is.
Not your your mate, your mate. That team's not using radar rain
Waker. No, there were reasons when when
Oxygen was playing for them, they were using radar.
Yeah, yeah. What happened to Oxygen?
Did they just did he get banned or did they just?
Converted it to CO2, it's. Good.
(07:00):
Brilliant. This is like right, I'm going to
be nice to vault because he's young, but this is bottom
central isn't? It how's Zurk?
Doing Zurk doing 25. Yeah, what's he look like
nowadays? There's no way he's good.
There's no way he's he was never.
Point O 5. That's about what I expected.
Let's see the last 6, yes? No, do do less, do less free
(07:22):
mums because I think that's whenthey built the roster and then
minute. It's barely got worse.
Can you still see the rest of the team on this page?
You can't remember. Also, anytime they've made
anyone good, he's even worse. Oh, what's the what's the most
the team look like? Hang on, was it?
Was it? Cirque you just used to play
(07:43):
like play like mobile games or was that poison like mid prac?
Poison. Poison, if he even showed up.
Throughout some entire team period here.
Rainwakers smurfing again. So actually.
Even worse, top player. Oh, no, that's in his whole time
on. OK, right.
OK, well, that's not very useful.
And how's how's oxygen? What's he doing on the previous
(08:05):
players? Why is DJ that's a fucking coach
this is. Was in DJL.
Let's look at Oxygen. Like one of those cursed as a
lineups for a bit. Was it like AS or an MHL?
Oh yeah. Talon.
Maybe, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Rainwaker's doing
all right, getting back on liquid, I reckon.
(08:26):
And oxygen's doing doing nothingother.
Than yeah, but The thing is, no team, nothing brilliant.
I always thought Rainwaker was alright, to be honest.
I thought he was like, not even that bad like.
He he probably shouldn't have been on liquid, but he probably
did deserve a crack at Tier 1. I know, yeah.
(08:47):
A player from a strong domestic line up and think that they're
just going to be great in a year.
In a but it it was also a horrendous Liquid team that made
no coherent sense. But but Elliot, he was never
going to be good on that team. Did you still have OC?
Yeah, it's OC Rainway. Oh, Patsy Yakin.
(09:07):
Darn fucking hell, can you check?
Something for me, I'm just intrigued.
No Who came first, DJL or Hampus?
Which came first? They came at Hampus by like a
handful of days, by the lots of things.
Interesting. It's both two months.
(09:28):
They all joined with Vault, but lots of things.
Yes, they basically all joined at the same time and.
Vault's doing OK. So that's that's.
Probably doing all right to be fair.
Anyway, enough about config. Yeah, and and wait, bad players.
One last one last thing, on config, who is the biggest
counter strike? What if?
Doc Dickle take a look at it, though I don't think so.
(09:57):
No, I don't. I really don't think doc is.
I've got 1. Esperanto.
It's Daisy. I mean.
Esperanto is a good call. Probably a good one.
Do you know who might be a good one considering why you fucked
off Sergey? Yeah, there's a few like.
(10:17):
Ethan. OBO as well, right?
Yeah, Obo's a really good one. But there's a jar of blood and
such things. Allegedly it's got I think it
his family like did. You say Ethan?
Didn't he like did really good valorant?
But he was good at he's. He's just become the two time,
(10:38):
the first two time world. Championship winner.
And I'm like, maybe he would have still been good if, you
know, could have done something like that, Yes.
What about 10? The best NA players?
What about 10s? No, I I always thought not, not
quite not quite at that level, but for NA could have been a
very important player was Curry.I always thought like every time
(10:59):
I saw him play in like NA low itis he was like a step above he.
Wasn't like a United or something, right?
That kind of team. That sort of team, I don't think
he was on it, but yeah, it was like that standard and he was
pretty decent, like every time Iwatched him and then obviously.
And it used to be fun, and it used to be really fun before
that horrible game came out. Yeah.
(11:20):
Basically anyway, move on. Yeah, I'm trying to think
there's going to be other like big what ifs, but we will.
Move on. Leave your thoughts down below.
I think I think Esperanto might have been the best shot though.
I really thought he'd be very good.
Yeah, he looks. He looked so good.
He really did look so good. What about I was.
Talking about Counter Strike, but he's not ugly.
(11:43):
Now let's move on to the CS AsiaChampionships.
We will. I mean, where do you even start
with this? So this whole event was just.
Let's start with the winner. And then I went backwards, I
would say. All right, I was going to say.
Start with phase and go forward.Where the phase here they are.
(12:03):
Yeah, well, I think, oh, I'm going to open it another.
Surprise, surprise, they're shit.
Yeah, I mean, I feel so bad for Jacob.
Like the poor guy, right? He gets to join phase.
He's like, they, they, they losea player.
Yeah, I'm going to like, I'm going to join phase like 2
events in or whatever it was. It gets benched because they had
(12:26):
like because they didn't actually figure out to submit
their roster or whatever the fuck they were doing.
And then and then he gets brought back in and he's like
clearly uncomfortable. Clearly he's he knows he's the
least desirable player on the team because he got benched for
range. You know what I mean?
Like nobody really wants him there.
They really just want to play with rain, probably how it.
Feels is the the beamer. And he's struggling.
(12:49):
Yeah, well. I don't really think anything
you just said is true to be honest.
I mean, he was benched. That's fine, but like some of
these are facts. But the reason he didn't play
was because the fucking invite rules are really stupid and will
cause teams to be outdated. It's the same reason why again I
(13:09):
see was playing at this tournament or a different
tournament. Well, no, they were going to
trial. We spoke about that last week.
No, no, but it was, it was the same thing.
It was because VP had already made changes and then having
that guy trial meant that it would be 1/3 change.
For them, why did VP even go to events, which is what did they
bother? Like it's, it's fucking stupid
(13:30):
for one. But like, I don't really feel
sorry for Jacob at all, to be honest.
Like he was. I think he's in Madison.
But he was the logical person tostep out for that event.
No sure but but I I think Jacob was a player who should have
gone to a gamer legion or a teamof kind of the 1.5 calibre
(13:50):
right? And kind of learnt how to play
at a semi competent level. Like he was the best player on a
bad team. Do you know what I mean?
Well this is the other thing. He also shouldn't be on fucking
phase to begin with. Not.
At all. Yeah.
But now, now his career is completely derailed because of
this move. And he can't, he can't say no to
phase. And like, if face concoling and
you're Jacob, you have to say yes.
(14:11):
But now his career has been like, completely derailed.
Is it? Is it Neo nepotism to be
reckoned? Is that how they found him?
No, it's Kerrigan nepotism in it.
He's why actually, it's cronyism.
Actually go fuck yourself. Whatever the whatever the ISM
is, it's not the reason you should sign players other than
(14:31):
autism that means they're reallygood.
Probably. He's just, he's just, he's buns
in here. Yes, Carrigin's wife works for
Apogee. Is that correct?
Yeah, OK, so she's a sports psychologist, right?
She's really good at that apparently, right?
Like they've done well. Since I know I've never had a
therapy session. Yeah, I can't remember any time
(14:51):
Apogee have have choked him likea big final, so she must be
pretty good. No, yeah, no.
It's like I'm just looking just looking at his numbers before
phase and like he's clearly pretty good at the level he was
playing at. You're going from but yes,
adhere to a best friend, honest here to your team to joining,
you know, a team that's meant tobe top sort of five all the time
(15:14):
really, you know what I mean? He just shouldn't be on face and
and this is this is what I said last week.
Isn't it like, you know, just try and get him on game of
legion for six months, try and get him on foot for six months,
anything like that. Have another six months of reign
whatever, because he just you just shouldn't be near phase
(15:36):
right now. And this will be something that
you keep seeing and you know, like with this lineup, you'd
probably also see it with rain. But the difference is is that
rain would have impact with a SAT line like that.
Jacob just has a SAT line like that.
I'm going to be connected for all the rounds.
I'm going to do the asterisk of like the prac and travel and
(15:58):
then EPL issues. I'm going to say that they
compounded at least a little bitto to make this performance
particularly awful. They did.
They did win games at this event, by the way, like they
didn't bomb out. They did win 2 two series.
So like, I'm not saying he did very well, but there weren't
like a dog. They.
Did spot on frag every series. The foot is really good so.
(16:19):
They lost twice the foot though.Man, like come on.
Yeah, for who have tattered as the best Academy team ever,
basically the point, the point that now we had to sell them
because they were going to end up taking vRS like slots from
Barbie, so. Well, they they're not Mouse
NXT. Yeah, Mouse AXT is the best
Academy team ever. Yeah, OK, They produced the best
players, but what I'm saying is like, no.
(16:41):
It's the other way around. No?
The the other way around. The The OG Mouse NXT roster is
the best. Academy.
Well, that is mouse, isn't it? Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. This is also like 50th in the
world mouse like 4th. But this is also like I know.
Neither of us. Is it Laux or Laux?
I I say laux, but I don't. Know right, I know he's.
(17:05):
I just don't. Sit around, don't you?
You've been around. I know he's done all right in
this in this series, right? But he's not McCarthy, right?
They also lost their best player.
Like I don't think Faye should ever be losing to Foot and
Elliot if you could just go intotwists.
(17:26):
But are you saying that? With like the news?
No, actually my point is not really.
A real one, yeah. That or there's a practice.
That that interview there, I think it's that one.
Yeah, unlock it out. There we go.
Yeah, so he said. Like, where is it?
(17:47):
OK. We've had four days of practice
with Jacob and that was before EPL.
No, I don't know what just happened.
What happened there? I didn't touch it.
It was great. And it.
Yeah. Before, before EPL, then we had
no practice during EPL because we played with rain, and then we
travelled straight from EPL after our very last match to
(18:08):
here and played the very next day after arriving.
So OK, that one's reasonable, right?
I'll agree on that one. That one's reasonable.
It's not a surprise that the maps are really messy.
You can't expect people to remember a playbook from three
weeks ago and use it. Florida State.
Do you know what though? Sorry.
No, no shit, the infamous Carrigan playbook have spread
(18:29):
out in search for clues. I'll die and then clutch.
Yeah. Fuck that guy.
But also they just made top fourat the tournament with a stand
in. Like I'm sorry, that just
doesn't fly when you're losing to fucking foot.
You beat. Spirit a week ago, not even a
(18:49):
week ago like and you almost beat vitality.
Let's not fuck about here. You just played like shit.
It it basically and this face team is just.
Maybe he's very depressed. I would be after, you know, the
rigmarole he's been put through.Oh fuck off.
(19:09):
Well, no, I, I think, you know, the mental factor does matter.
And now that he's not got his mental care.
Well, maybe Carrion should get his wife on the blower and not
figure it out. Sure.
It's not what I've heard call. Anyone's wife but.
Have you never heard the blubber?
No, I haven't, but I'm sure it's.
It means it means mobile phone or phone, thinks Elliot.
(19:33):
But yeah. Yeah, it's a common thing.
Phase are never going to be, notwith this team.
I'm I'm bored of them. But it's fun.
Different fuck phase. Let's talk.
About right, wouldn't they? Oh, heroic and really funny,
actually. It's just I've been really good
and really shit. It's quite funny.
No, no, they're really funny in this event because Hades was the
best player coming out of the group stage.
(19:54):
Hades is good man Hades. Yeah, yeah, OK, you say that.
Could you go on to the semi final that includes heroic
please? I've already got it open.
They wouldn't have got there with that Hades.
Hades nuts, am I right? Isn't nearly positive.
(20:16):
Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's notthe best.
It's just really funny how. You.
That's kind of like the best, atleast.
For the reason your team's lost.Like it's not even like he's so
I always thought Hades was like he plays map scores.
He used to use the orb like a rifler, which I like.
He was very, very passive and hewould just sort of like Anchor
basically with it, which I on ends, which is why I always
(20:40):
thought like when they replaced it, when they didn't he get
replaced by Valde or something, I was like, oh, he's actually
like he's actually fine because Valde kind of plays like that
anyway. Hades.
Maybe this was another team. Maybe I just.
Maybe I just. No.
So it was when they when they sold Spinks, they benched Hades
(21:03):
and then. That was it.
Some pious and valde. Yeah.
And I was like, well, they're just going to use some players
more aggressively and put Valde in like the sort of roles that
Hades was doing. Whereas like actually when he's
in a more aggressive, in a more star role at Tier 2, he's
actually like very, very good. It's just he can't.
He can either be the passive player at Tier 1 and be passable
(21:27):
or a star at Tier 2, but he can't be a star at Tier 1.
Hades is just too good for the championship, not quite good
enough for the. Yeah, he's Robert Earnshaw.
OK. He's he's also a renter player.
Like he he just, he just shows up for a week on every like.
Everything crazy on G2 he was pretty pretty decent and they
(21:48):
had to he. Was he was passable?
Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah, like he he, he's a, he's a
decent player who you just get on loan for a little bit when
you don't know what else to do. He's, what's the word?
A mercenary, you know. Yeah, I see Jacasmo's light it
up on Fanatic. Yeah, that was worthwhile.
Jude, Jude, I'll see how they did against 3D Max, because I
(22:09):
think 3D Max are probably worth talking about as well, right?
Like. They're just, they're on the
cusp of being like consistently pretty good.
And then they they kind of. I'm saying they are consistently
pretty good, but yeah, not winning this tournament is
elected. So are they are they Aurora from
like 2 years ago? No.
(22:30):
And what's they were? They were eternal fire then
where they're like. That French?
On the cusp of like because I think back then, like Aurora was
sort of like the the bottom end of top ten and every time you
were like, oh, this is a chance for them to win.
This is the chance for them to really do well.
They just wouldn't quite do it and you just would never back
them in a semi final against anyone decent.
(22:52):
But they're still a pretty good team.
OK, I'm with you. But can they be a roaring from
this year? No what?
No, I don't think they're kind. Of crap.
Wait, move on. I don't like them.
They just kind of don't have. They just exist.
(23:13):
Chantarres. Do they?
No, no, I don't know man. Mac is pretty fucking good.
Answers exercise. They're pretty good.
Yeah, but they're not Jantarres.That's why he's got another year
left in his career and then he'sgoing to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. But for the last like for the
last like 15 years, he's been, he's been ungodly.
(23:34):
Like I, I was doing the. He won the.
First game? Not really.
Yes one big online I was doing first game.
I was doing first game last gamefor config in the newsletter
yesterday and his first game he got fucking shit stomped by
Jantaris. Jantaris.
He's been around for so long. Jantaris like dropped 25 he was
like 25 and 12 or something and like configs hinge go have
(23:57):
reason. Evil haircut though.
It was fucking criminal. Yeah, but like 3D Max just don't
have a guy they don't like. They don't have a guy.
I don't. No, they don't.
I don't think Maka is the guy. Is there a guy in his rooms
though right now? What's the fucking?
Zai Wu, but yeah, zai the. Other little guy.
Matthew Valbuena, whatever his name is.
(24:17):
Naty Yeah, in your hands. The one on he meant to be good.
Oh, you mean? Kersey Oh yes, yes.
Best player I've ever seen. Really good.
Really, really good. No, 3D Max are like legitimately
good. I like I had them in like the
big tier from like a few like, yeah, yeah, like when big were
(24:39):
actual gatekeepers and not just fucking dog shit sleepy.
But like, no, like I think this is like they beat OK.
I was going to say they beat some serious teams and they
hovered over versus pro and Lin Vision, but they did meet Liquid
and fanatic who were like Lin Vision or at least, yeah,
they're OK. But like, you know, they're
still slightly unserious. And you're like, you know, if
(25:00):
you beat fanatic Liquid and thenyou win, you're like, OK, pretty
happy with that. That's a pretty serious run.
But then then you bottle it in the final.
Yeah. Listen, if it was a Bo BO3 they
won. Which like right?
Legacy, yeah. I like Dumao, I think he's
(25:22):
pretty good. Lato decent.
Sadsin and Nissim are not good players.
But where are these names comingfrom?
Isn't, isn't Nissim OK? Junk vote?
Here you go. I know, I know, Sadsin sadsin's
like awful, but I feel like no. They're both.
They're both crap, man. They're basically.
Back in the final, actually. So recently Bias said.
(25:42):
Otherwise. Southern is just, obviously.
He also. Yeah, no, he's not Frank.
The last game we're looking. At.
That's fine. Like, yeah, yeah, legacy is
great, though, because obviouslythey they fucking, they bullshit
their way to the Austin major. They broke mortality's one
industry, then did fuck all really, and now they've just won
this. Yeah, the The thing is like
(26:03):
Dumal Latto were part of it was God sent back way back when
where that God sent team. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Before, Yeah, No, it was. It killed.
Them before Kozuri killed Brazil, that team was like,
yeah, yeah, yeah. So saucy.
Like, actually just so for like,I for some reason, don't ask
why. I was looking back through old,
like, tweets the other day. I can't remember what I was
(26:25):
looking for. And there was one where we, me,
Sam and Harry were talking aboutGod sent and you asked who their
opera was. And I was like, that's a great
question. It depends on the phase of the
moon. Because they would just change
who the awful was like round to round.
Sometimes they they would just whoever fancied it.
He what? Sorry.
Was try on that team as well. They played together.
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No, it was Yeah, they did. Later on Cold 0 signed him.
I also just it was Barton Dumao,Latto Taco and like you know one
of those like Brazilian 4th man's who are all awful.
For example, Sadsin neck is. Bolt No.
(27:07):
No. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not.
I'm not getting into that, but bolts was bolts was fucking
great. Bolts.
Were fantastic. No, you're on, you're on.
Bolts Phelps like anyone that went through that curse spot in.
They had, they had Phelps and they had Henny for a little bit.
Phelps was so. Lucas, that's another one.
(27:28):
Lucas, Yeah, no, Lucas is terrible, but I'm not having
felts and bolts as bad players. Absolutely not.
I'm not saying absolutely just 4th man's.
No, I said fourth men that are terrible.
So that's what exclusively that's what I said.
So no, but he went there. At one point.
What the fuck? Like a British Swedish one but
(27:48):
for like 3 months. But no Elliot, whoever goes in
the 4th man's spot on a Brazilian team, it doesn't
matter who it is. It could have been prime Colt's
error. He would have been shit.
It's it's the most cursed spot on any Counter Strike Ross.
Phelps was OK and actually Boltswas pretty.
Good had a 114 on that team. And Bolts was actually.
Taco was the 4th man. Taco was .95.
(28:11):
No Taco was the 5th. No I don't care what anyone
says. Taco was the more.
The problem with the problem with Phelps was that he just
made them play bad because he's a certain.
Kind of. He was the highest rate of.
Play I felt no but no but with with Phelps.
Oh on this team I was I thought you meant Phelps on SK.
Phelps on SK was the same thing as Kirby on Australis where
(28:34):
Kirby and Dupiv major MVP have been on the same team and Phelps
and 1st shouldn't have been on the same team.
Yeah, no, of course they shouldn't.
Dumo's surname is is very very clearly Brazilian and not not
German at all, just. I like Lato's surname.
I only found. Latos.
Yeah, but it's so good. Is it Bruno?
Rebelato is a sensational name. That's one.
(28:56):
Of the best names in Counter Strike.
Yeah, it really is. What's the best name in Counter
Strike? Robin Cool.
It's certainly not Pierre balloons.
No, I don't. I don't like Robin.
Cool man. I I don't.
Think Robin cool? It's a good name.
No, I think if it was like a worst first name it would call
it like would take points away. But Robin's quite a cool first.
No Robin cool is like. For a little beard.
(29:18):
This is like the newest version of mambo #5 by Robin.
Cool like. Yeah.
Just. Yeah, The coolest song.
Yeah. He makes music for children.
Yeah, I'm not sure my mambo #5 is for children.
Yeah, it's. Very.
Much not he slept with. Yeah, the opposite.
(29:39):
But children listen to it a lot.What we're what we're saying is
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Yeah. So Jack, do you find it hard to
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I do, I took a weekend off and Icame back to six new IGL's, 3
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We're too good at this anyway. Fun to.
Pick me up. Speaking of teams who are good
in the bedroom. Furia.
I'll fuck it, everybody. Furia mambo #5 of Furia.
Yeah, all 5 maps. Yeah, it's Navi.
(32:06):
It's a rock #5. Yeah, good.
We needed fanatics to win. It could have been jambo #5.
What about latto #5? We have so many.
So many. So many options.
That's a three. Point.
Anyway, back to Furia. They pulled off a reverse sweep.
(32:26):
The rarely seen. Well, actually there's quite a
lot of reverse sweeps for peoplefrom these.
Very inefficient way to clean the floor.
There's not encounters, right? No, as in like best of three
ones. They don't count, right?
Yeah, but they don't count like a.
Sweep. Yeah.
People don't count them for whatever reason.
Best. Best for?
Faster amount of reversing one in BO3.
(32:46):
In the two now. Well, yeah, OK, but the.
First one in CS2, definitely. No, it's not.
Yeah, no, no, no. There wasn't ever one in global
offensive on land. The only ones came in during
COVID. The only one on land before this
was Spirit Reverse swept at Bet Boom Dacha 2023, which was their
(33:11):
last tournament. Art Frost.
Was that dog stadium? Yeah, it was like his first tier
one tournament and spirits last one with Art Frost before Shiro
came in. Sharp frost, anyway.
Well, this is a pretty convincing reversal.
I mean, you obviously you lose the 1st 2 maps to get 15 rounds
like whatever, but that's not good.
And you're like you're panicking.
You got 15 rounds of two maps and then Navi get 14 rounds over
(33:36):
the next three maps as you absolutely just smash em.
So there's a smash em. Elliot, I'm going to assume that
train was after your bedtime. To be honest, Nuke Nuke might
have been after my bedtime. I'm a.
Sleepy boy that train map. I don't think I've ever seen a
(33:59):
team look as lost as Navi did. Now bear in mind, like Moladoy
was just teleporting. Yeah, I mean 20 and 3.
Yeah, yeah, I think he was 17 and two at the end of the first
half. Like actually just teleporting.
Like there was one round he killed 2IN Ivy. 50 McCarthy
round swing, made-up start. But that's fucking crazy.
(34:22):
It was like he killed like Wonderful and McCarthy Ivy and
then the other three Navi players went into B.
It wasn't even that long afterwards Molitor killed two of
them as well. Have you ever seen that round
from Art? And if you've seen the round
from Art, you'll know exactly the one I'm about to say where
he starts the round getting a pick up lower ramp on B and then
(34:45):
basically immediately Bunny hopsand gets a kill in A main as
they rotate back. The the best round I've ever
seen. Just purely I would be so angry
if he picked me in B and then hegets a pick in a main like 15
seconds later. I mean, sounds like Molodo was
essentially doing that but just from further away making it less
(35:06):
cool. Yeah, no, genuinely.
Blade called the timeout, Navi then didn't get a kill in the
next round, and Blade called another timeout.
I've never seen Blade. Do that behind the stage.
But I've actually never seen Blade do that.
It's it's, it's crazy how Navi can can be convincing one of the
(35:29):
best teams in the world or just fucking dog shit.
Well, they beat they beat the Mongols in the semi finals.
What's wrong with this team? And then went two matches. 3
bit. Against who I actually think are
probably the third best team in the world right now.
Yeah, I think it's hard to argueagainst that right now.
I feel like it's vitality, spirit, fury or the the top
(35:50):
three. I'll steal.
Yeah, yeah, they're better than the Mongols, I think.
Yeah, they're better than mouse.Probably better than Falcons.
So yeah, they have to be top three, right?
And just how the fuck do you throw it away?
And then map 5 just isn't even remotely like they weren't in
that game. I can't remember how they won
(36:13):
around, but they were not in that game.
Looking again, it was after my bedtime, but it looks like it
might have been because of it, because he's the only one with
any sort of round swing, any sort of rating.
That that is genuinely one of the worst.
Sorry, I can't understand how hehow he's gone.
Looks like it was bit because he's got he's the only one with
(36:34):
a highlight on train. I just can't understand how his
rating is, is that high because just like, OK, you got us their
only round. Yeah, but that's like, that's an
obscene difference. I'm I'm glad they do that
though, though. If I play well and then my team
(36:55):
plays this badly, I I want the score like I, like, I want the
scoreboard to tell me that I want to go home thinking, you
know what? Actually, it wasn't my fucking
fault. Actually, yeah, no.
I think I am. I think every series.
It's not his fault, it's just that everyone else on that team
is really bad. Dog.
Yeah I mean I'm just looking through he top fragged 3 maps
and finished second on the otherone.
(37:16):
The only one he did poorly on was Nuke, where he's the ramp
player, right? I mean, did he see four and five
on the CT side? Yeah.
I mean, even on T side, you can tell he was being kind of
aggressive with that sort of. Score you can not do a lot ramp
every round. Give me that.
That's lovely. Yeah.
I mean, you can't have it one. Yeah, I mean, bit continues to
(37:43):
be like the best player on this team despite not being in the
position to be the best player on this team.
I think also just wonderful. I don't know if you guys saw
Monosy picking his top five whoppers in the world, but he
had wonderful at 4th and didn't have more.
Yeah, that's just because they're boys, Yeah.
Like I let's not talk about it. I like both of you.
(38:04):
If I could pug without you, I would.
Well, that is what I do. But who did?
Who did Monosy say out of interest, do you?
Remember. Oh I he had himself and Zai Wu.
I think he has Zai Wu above himself rightly.
Shiro at third, wonderful 4th. Torzi 5th.
Yeah exactly. Shiro is better than I see.
(38:26):
Anyway, you kinda being the worst player on on Furia in this
series is a is a very very good sign.
Yeah. Like as we said, like we talked
about in before, like his role of just kind of running in and
like either just absolutely likeScull fucking people or or just,
you know, getting neutered and you just does it and you think.
(38:48):
You'll fuck, I will say. I will say a large part of this
is down to a GOM Go mirage Elliot.
Mirage. Yeah, I can't remember if it was
the T half or the CT half. But it looks like the.
Horrible first half. But you just.
You take the. Wait, does that mean?
Does that mean there's two halves in this series where he
(39:08):
got one kill? Was it Nuke?
Yeah. So it was Nuke Teesside, wasn't
it? Yeah.
He's so brilliant you don't givea fuck.
He's awesome, but. He's he's not given up.
He had R off. Really.
Yeah, that's. Amazing.
He's got too much in the BO5 that don't really count.
And he's still massively, he's still massively out fragged.
(39:28):
Elections There was a there was a round on train where Navi went
down B ramp again and just the second they came out of ramp you
came down just sat three of themdown just one tapped all three
of them like he's just so he's so good I.
Love him so much. And you know who?
Else this team is awesome because we.
We love to talk about how much we love Fallen on this podcast.
(39:48):
Look at Nuke. I'd just like to say you were
very much you were not a fan of your kinder a few like a year or
two ago. I've always been.
I was a fan of, I was a fan of your kinder on Monolith.
There was a tweet of my .2017 saying your kinder on Monolith.
What do you want? To say because your kinder on
liquid made me want to tie a rope around my neck.
(40:10):
Yeah, everyone on Liquid makes me want to kill myself.
Liquid just ruin. Players I'm.
Gonna say yeah, just you know. Just.
Funny necklace. Yeah.
But yeah, follow me in good is just five.
To go back to my .2 row down in a best of five grand final and
your IGL just does this Like he he just shit on them.
(40:33):
Let's fucking Ramos. He's wonderful.
No, he's wonderful. No, he's not wonderful.
That's the point. That's the point, that's the
point. He's not wonderful.
The rest of this tournament, Didanyone watch it?
Just like, no, I'm just going tobe.
Real. No, I'm not going to fuck.
About I mean, I was dead. I was busy over the weekend, but
I'm not going to fuck about. Even if I wasn't, I wouldn't be
(40:55):
watching this shit. Let's have a look at some of the
highest rated players just so wecome on and beat so we can.
Oh my God, we can't be a myth for an event.
Wikadia. I mean, he used to be good man.
He. Really.
He's a fucking. Myth and more importantly, he's
the lowest rated player at the. Event.
Yeah, I mean this is not right thing at all.
Harbinger you. Know how you know how fanatic?
(41:18):
I think Nico does. Being that bad is is scary
scary. I think that's just could OG
have been bad. You know there's three of them
there. You know how Fanatics coach is
also innocent? Which one of them is the
innocent that's been around? I swear there's an innocent.
Oh, I'm. Innocent, the one on.
That this, this guy is the OG. Like he's been on like this guy.
That's fucking. Stuff he's only 10 posts or more
(41:39):
semester. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet.
I bet there's some horrible teams on his team.
He's have a look. At Innocent, Really.
It might be a Valorant thing actually.
Yeah, I think you're you're smoking the Kool-aid.
He's also he's gone Rebels secret, Taz's Team Honoris.
He's got he's got 4. Pages of events, Yeah.
(42:02):
Mad Lions. Illumina 10.
Percent I can do it. I know 10 postal sprout.
Get that roster up. Get that, get that roster up.
By the way, whichever Storm justany of.
Storm, let's just pick up and. You're going to fucking giggle
and shit. Speaking of Esperanto now.
(42:23):
Look at that team, the. Biggest one if ever.
That is awful. I think HS and Innocent were
both mentioned as harbingers in the House of their.
Team article. Oh no.
Fanatic is independent. It's not innocent.
Painter as well on here. Yeah, this guy has been on some
dobry. Gaming what?
(42:44):
What a team name. Yeah, I mean, what we're getting
guys, innocent is quite poor andit's not surprising that he's at
the bottom. He's got Yeah, No, I didn't.
I did not watch like when you'vegot Thunder Pick and CSA
championships on at once, like Ibarely have break capacity to
watch one tournament like this. I'm not watching both.
(43:06):
Yeah, yeah, they're just like, I'm glad that Fioria won this
one. I'm glad I watched the final.
I think people will just like asterisk it though of like, Oh
well, they didn't really beat any.
Anyone that challenging like theMongols is obviously a very big
win, but this current RV is likenot good.
(43:31):
Right. You can win the major.
You can win the major and people.
Asterisk, yeah. No, I know, like I think ICE
have a fucking win and it's valid, right?
But like, I just, you know. Yeah, no, like I don't.
I don't anyway, or it's not relevant.
I don't care. You can win the major and people
or still write it off. Fuck you all.
I mean, yeah, but you think really the first?
Do you think Navi and Phase can actually get good again?
(43:54):
Yeah, just blow them up and likemix the players around a little
bit and you'll get some in kind of fun.
One of those teams will come outOK.
They I think Navi. Will not have Carrigan or Relaxi
though. I.
Think Navi. It would have to have.
More likely to. Yeah, I think Blade does way
more than the others. Blade has made multiple line of
(44:15):
speaking. Yeah, that, that's part of it.
And I think bit is just such a ridiculously good foundation if
you just like, it's so much easier to find a star player
than it is to find. Bit what if?
What if you swapped? Frozen and McCarthy.
Carrigan and Jacob with McCarthyand Alexi and Blade and.
(44:39):
I think McCarthy. Aren't both teams then just
awful? I think that's the most sideways
move ever. I think that they both remain
equally. Well, McCarthy's much better
than Jacob McCarthy's. Active, yeah, but phase are
worse than Navi, so they both like.
They're both just yeah, but instead of like Navi being like
7th and Phase being 12th. But then they also get frozen
(44:59):
twists and brokey. They already have frozen twists
and brokey and it's still rubbish like.
No, as in Alexi and McCarthy getfrozen twists and brokey, and so
does Blake. They don't deserve that.
Like Frozen twists and brokies abetter trio than Emma.
Wonderful and bit. Yeah exactly and they should
(45:20):
probably play 3V5 and they'll dobetter not that's carry around
Carrigan's. Yeah, no, again, that's the
thing. I would, if I had to pick one of
these teams to build from, I would pick Navi because I think
it's easier to find a star player to play with it.
I think Bit is the best player in the world in his role.
I don't think there's a single phase player you can say that
(45:42):
about. So I think that's a better
foundation. Yeah, yeah.
I'll I'll shake on that. And I think get it, get it like
if Navi lose bit, I don't think they can replace him and I think
it's difficult, but I think you can replace frozen.
There's always. What are you doing in this role
(46:02):
as here? Sort of if you look at the
positions he plays and the players he's, yeah, like he's
sort of he's a half anchor. He's not a full anchor, is he?
But like, if you look at the spots he plays and the players
that he's most similar to, it's like Yim Fat.
I. Can't remember I looked this up
(46:23):
a few weeks ago because I writing about it and like he I
think he's even like higher rated any spots than Rob's and
Rob says like shares some spots with him.
And I mean I think Rob's is likeGod tier.
So maybe Rob's is better than BIT, but like BIT is
ridiculously, I don't know. That was OK.
No, you said what I wanted you to say that Robs is is just
(46:46):
better than bit. But bit.
Is he is, but I don't think. Robs and bit are actually.
I think it's. I think it's.
The Venn diagram's pretty. I think.
I think they're one for 1:00-ishon CT side.
I think Robs gets slightly different roles on T.
Side if I'm. Call but I don't.
For these one, for 1:00-ish players, it's yeah, frozen in
(47:09):
that order. And then you're in fat,
probably. Maybe not.
This year like 5th or 6th? Last year, sure.
Not this year, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean. This year.
Techno. Yeah, fine.
Regardless, I'd rather build from bit than.
Speaking of of. I'd rather build from phase
(47:30):
because there's just more players to build from.
Did you did you see that Techno was listed as breakout Player of
the Year nominee for these sports awards?
Oh, hilarious that. Isn't it hilarious?
Now I've got so many problems with that one.
It's nowhere near his best year.And B, it's not a breakout.
Yeah, yeah. But.
(47:50):
If anything, it's the opposite. You know it's because he's the
WC MVP. The only reason that's.
I I am probably not a liberty tocomment on that, but I can
imagine that that definitely hassomething to do with it.
Yes, that's yeah, probably, definitely.
Let's let's move on to what is probably the last story of the
week, because there's not reallya whole lot going on.
(48:13):
The BC Game have signed Electronic in their attempts to
make the angriest team ever. I I genuinely, I really fucking
hate this team. Can you open like?
Nexer is going to hear slurs that nobody has ever heard
(48:35):
before, like they're going to beinventing new slurs for Nexer on
this team. Electronic and simpler go to
hate him. It's just one of the worst
looking teams we've ever seen, which is crazy because simple's
on it. I know, but it's really.
But it's it's simple. Who'd rather play Dota than?
And that's not even allegedly either, but that's just a fact
(48:57):
at this point. Yeah, yeah.
That's. The worst We're not even he.
Literally. Didn't play a game and then was
on those instead which is hilarious.
But like okay, so for a team like this nexa fine IGL I'm not
going to give. Yeah, I actually don't mind
Nexa, but. Sassanito and Andrew are bad.
They are both bad and electronichas genuinely been like the
(49:21):
counter strike equivalent of fucking Osama bin Laden for the
past three years. Like.
I don't know, I feel like Bin Laden had a fucking high O KD.
Oh bin Laden absolutely had a high O KD.
He's like fucking bin. Laden was a coach, though,
wasn't he Sat home moving the chess pieces.
He was Blade, you know, like. Gaddafi in the back of a truck
(49:46):
after he's been pulled out of a sewer or whatever the fuck it
was like. I I feel like what's?
Happened Olivia's in the sewers but.
What what's happened here is Sassanito just before his move
to where he went on like trial with NRG or wherever it was
where he was rubbing fucking. Shit.
I'm just going to, yeah, whatever.
Just before that happened, Sassanito found a monkey's paw
(50:07):
and he rubbed it and was like, Ijust please let me play with
simple one day. Please.
I want to play with simple one day.
And what's happened is he's on BC game and he's got simple
electronic the absolute like in the absolute pits.
Like, the terrifying thing aboutthis team is that Emmy's
probably the best rifler. No, no, no, no, no.
(50:29):
Simple. It's probably the best rifle,
but then it's heavy. It's simple.
Nexer, Emmy. And.
Then the actual. Ride not even bad, it's just and
do just should not be near A-Team ever This this thing
simples 28 electronics 27, so there's not much feature
(50:51):
proofing. Obviously any team of simple
can't really plan to feature proof because you know he's
volatile. Let's just say is he being good?
What the fuck I? Mean he's been.
Following me, They play, they play.
Teams that are. Not real like.
Yeah, let's let's have a look. He's playing against eternal
fire, not the. Not the one we think.
(51:13):
Yeah, he's got negative against Ruby here.
I mean, is there anyone? No.
Is there anyone? OK, OG, you know, 1.3 is OG,
1.22 against OG. He has gone negative in every
map, but we've done all that. Do they only play OG?
What's going on? And they played and.
That boom as well. Negative that.
(51:36):
Boom. Negative.
He's not good. Like he's actually not good.
No, he's not good. That's not that's not what I was
getting at. But you know, you did say he
shouldn't be anywhere near. Oh, no, Jack said.
He shouldn't be anywhere near A-Team, which you know, probably
should maybe be near like, well,he should maybe be near parties
and the next. Excellent.
(51:57):
It's just like this is BC game just obviously have like fuck
you money right? So they can't just do this shit
but like electronica has not looked happy for like 4 years.
I don't think electronics ever looked happy to be.
Fair think you smiled when they won the major but like that's
probably it. Possibly.
(52:17):
I just don't. I don't get it at all.
I just feel the most sorry for Nexa because, you know, now like
his time on this team. Yeah.
You know the fucking the fuckingrubbers.
Yeah. Actually, that's next, all
right. Now, like electronic can be
there Now, like, no, I don't want to like, yell anymore.
I'm not a good ideal motherfucker.
(52:38):
You've already done this once. You weren't meant to go, Nigel.
How is this allowed to happen again?
Versus pro? Like Pocket.
Podcast we're back. Hello.
We're we're, we're, we're. Back.
We're back. We're back.
We're back. Then what happened there?
The the POPO tried to take me down for illegal use of HLTV.
(52:59):
You are licensed. We're just saying I do have a
license for that. I have a license to scroll.
So Jane, as you can see, he had a bit of a spell away from the
team, rejoined here, electronic joins here.
And then it's like, yeah, less, just over half a year probably
between him joining, between electronic joining and Jane
(53:20):
being cut. I think that's the question,
wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was. How long did electronic take
before the fucking and? We killed the team.
Before the IGL fucking hours started.
Talking the Green Goblin mask. Yeah, it's.
Sad. I just, it's so sad, isn't it?
(53:41):
Like what's What's become of electronic?
Is it? I think it's deserved.
He absolutely ends every media day I've done with him, so I
think this is karma. Well sure, that part is valid,
but like electronic and simple were like.
(54:03):
Crazy good. Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, maybe the best like Rifle or FUO ever.
At least for a time, they were. Michael Ailey and easy.
Come on. Yeah.
No, you are. You're very correct.
Say Michael Ailey's name out of your mouth, Fox, and easy, now
we're talking God. Didn't, didn't Fox.
(54:24):
We actually know. I'll, I'll.
Leave. We just don't need to talk about
Fox. He's just, he's just one of
those guys. You don't need to talk.
About him, Did you do do a crimelately?
I feel like there was. Did he?
I don't. Want to talk about on the
podcast because I might be wrongbut we'll discuss it.
After I'm just going to I'll Google off screen fox.
Do a crime. It's just fantastic.
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Mr. Stealing, Whatever. Time do the crime.
Hang on. I'm going to put this on screen
now. I mean from from if I recall
it's not far off this. Oh, OK, yeah, I mean that's.
(55:06):
Fox kind of does look like a criminal.
Anyway, let's just get on the take of the week because I'm
kind of talking about rubbish teams.
Rubbish. Yeah.
I mean, we're nearly at the end,yeah.
Fuck electronic. I think that's proof that we're.
We're Last Rivals is happening in Hong Kong, guys.
Isn't that exciting? In Chet lap cock.
Was that accent there? Did I detect that accent?
I feel like that was not necessary.
(55:27):
I'm not really sure, Let's move on.
Anyway, the take of the week. Anyway.
Yeah, yeah, Thorin thought was funny.
It is kind of funny in Thorin's offense, it is kind of funny.
Check up cock. Yeah, it's awesome.
And Thorin said where in Hong Kong and.
O was in Paris. It's the same as that right?
It's it's the. Yeah.
You know, yes, and and. Reddest TQAQ reddest QAQ quack
(55:52):
responds with never step a foot in any Asian country, I will
find you and stab you. Random old guy making fun of
whole continent like this unacceptable and unk pushing 50
and a picture of electronic looking angry as always saying
I'll find you in Moscow Moscow Moscow and kill you you fucking
bitch. Which he said to according to
(56:14):
this image were LED it obviouslyit's meant to be world at it
willed it. So there's a couple of things
about this tweet that I find very amusing in any Asian
country he will find yourself. You do know how big Asia is?
That's that is. Vast.
It's fucking big random old guy making.
He doesn't make fun of the wholecontinent by the way.
(56:35):
He makes fun of Czech lab cock. Unacceptable.
I mean, it's kind of acceptable.I'm pushing 50 and this is just
correct though, isn't it? So Gold is Thorin because he.
That's what I'm about to look at, I realise.
I realise if you Google Thorin it comes up with a.
Bloke from the whole of the racecharacter.
(56:56):
Which is 40. Two I guess yeah 42 so he's.
I mean aging 50 is over 25. Is pushing 50, isn't it really
so? Hyperbolic.
I mean, that's yeah, that's not really an issue with it.
I had no idea how old to think by the way.
I would have said. 40s I thought.
(57:16):
I think he'd be a bit older. Yeah, I think I would have said
early 40s, just because he's been around for a while and I
think he was in his 30s when I remember watching.
But he is senile, which makes you think he's older.
I don't think he is senile, I think.
That yeah, that's unfair. There's there's a lot of things
you can say about Thorin but attacking his memory based not
(57:37):
the path to go, yes. And the fast guys, is that what
she means? You got bad memory?
Yeah, I thought, it's about likeold and duh.
Well, it's sort of like your, your, your brain and your memory
starts to fade. That's the answer really is.
OK, well that's completely wrongbecause he's like demented
autism. Yeah, yeah.
Like he's. Yeah.
He just knows everything. OK, Well, he's not senile,
(57:59):
great, but he's old man. The closest venue to the airport
in history is good. I will say that this is a short
trip. You can bet like you, isn't it?
They will basically like you'll come out of here, you'll go into
the airport to get some food like.
We come in and you want to go toHong Kong.
It's wild. I'd love to go I'd.
Love to have gone. So I know, I know it just says
(58:21):
it says a Cate City or Cathay, but Cate's is a, is a small
section of Cardiff, which is like really, really grotty.
It's just fine. That's so cool.
It's just all of Cardiff condensed.
The Cardiff is awful. I'm told the food in Hong Kong
is very, very good, so I would like to go but it's not
happening, OK? Well, with that then, should we
(58:43):
fuck off? And I mean, it's a trip to Hong
Kong maybe. What a great episode that was.
Sorry, there was not much news. Yeah, we filled the time by like
clicking on random players profiles and yeah, waxing
lyrics. Can we, Can we?
Silly episodes, but I do. Can we go back to the image of
Fox do a crime just to I want tolook at it.
OK, I've got to find it again. Sorry, Jack, say what you were
(59:06):
going to say. No, I think this is far more
important, honestly. Go do a crime, Miles Prower.
Prower, it's not even. There's another one here if you
want it. Nah, it's not Nah.
New Ground's a dangerous website.
I've. Been on it, can you send me that
one please? I liked that. 10 that that God
no, that's. Your that image represents for
(59:28):
that being on screen. It's just like that.
The hunter is electronic and thefox is just like any team's
hunter, any IGL. Yeah.
Thanks for watching everybody. Yeah.
Cheers. Cheers.
Something that makes it. What events are happening this
week? Nothing.
Big wrist. Does that start in time for the
next? Week wrist.
I do, yeah, in six days. So yes.
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I'm us. Well, we're talking about.
Another day, everyone's doing, everyone's doing Swiss system
nowadays. My legacy is.
Not many settled. Music.
Boys have a very, very importantquestion.
Fucking hell. What is it?
Was config any good? Sometimes, I mean he was a
dickhead but he was all right with his hands wouldn't he?
Multi bars after a few drinks. Yeah, well, I think didn't he
get beaten up though? So I guess he wasn't regular
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with his hands would be the actual I mean.
But he's his leg that got hurt, so his legs that were the
problem. Yeah.
I will say there's. Some kickboxing lessons.
Colloquially, the stairs next tothe hotel where probably
happened was referred to as the convict staircase by certain man
for a long time. I mean.
(00:41):
By the man who beat him up. So we.
Yeah. We we've got the, we've got the
retirement interview on screen, right?
What a load of horseshit this interview is, by the way.
Very long. Hopefully someone can shorten it
and compress it for people who don't want to read it because
(01:02):
it's too long. No, but like so it paints Config
as this really sympathetic figure and then obviously he did
that on Twitter as well, which is fine, right?
That's going to be his perspective.
But let's not pretend like this this guy didn't just repeatedly
get drunk and and cause issues. Like yes, we only know of one in
(01:22):
the public sphere because that was the only one that got
reported on. But like, let's not pretend like
this didn't happen. Let's not pretend like it wasn't
a recurring problem Config had. I mean, I've always really liked
him and I, I think in my limitedinteractions with him, he was
always really nice. So I feel like maybe it was
(01:43):
just. Yeah, same.
I I had positive interactions. With oh, he's never punched me,
Yeah. Yeah, great.
Yeah, but. OJ Simpson didn't kill me.
Still don't think he's a nice guy.
A career where he's said the thequote from the headline is he
wants to be an accounting agent so he doesn't want to see anyone
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else go through what he's gone through if.
But it was self-inflicted. Yeah, if you continue to make
the same mistakes, you know, patent recognition, patent
recognizers go crazy. But like, there's a common
dominator, right? I feel like there's a few
letters missing off the end of the headline and it should have
a like instead of breaks you, itshould be breaks your leg, yeah.
(02:26):
Like, I don't know man, I know people are always like
sympathetic towards themselves or whatever, but the guy just
had a problem with drinking and yeah, you.
Can allegedly that's not that's not liable, but.
Sure you can. You can talk about it.
As well. Yeah, because allegedly fixes
that. In, in terms of not being on
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better teams, you know, because he was on North and some other
garbage. Listen, Elliot.
All I'm saying I'm. Pretty sure you made a joke
about it in the newsletter last night.
I can neither confirm nor deny his.
Edited in after I did you. Know was was was the last
chance, right? And it went abhorrently and that
(03:10):
NIF team was abhorrent. It was really, really evil and
bad. But yeah, no, that was I, I
think I described it in the newsletter as possibly the worst
team ever constructed to competeat Tier 1.
Compete is really generous, isn't?
It well, yeah, but that my pointis that it was that it was
supposed to compete at tier one.Like obviously there are worse
teams constructed, but I don't think there are worse teams
constructed that. With the expectation.
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Of with the. Expectations that they have.
Isn't it crazy, though, that without the power of pure hatred
from Newark, it still would havemade a major playoffs?
Yeah, but but also if Nork is denying you, I like Nork,
respect. I like Nork, but you shouldn't
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like you shouldn't be denied a top 8 at a major by Nork.
Do you know what I mean? If you're these you don't like.
Sure. But the.
Three of us know how hard hatredcan go.
Do you know the last time that NIF got top 8 at a major?
Move on. It just runs the intro before we
talked. About it all right, well after
(04:22):
the intro we have we've discussed and we are going to
allow Jack to talk unfortunatelyso.
Getting my soap. Go, go ahead.
I just think. Actually, no, I've.
Yeah, thinking is dangerous, butI think Config was always the
label that he was the biggest. What if I think is just a bit
(04:43):
ridiculous. It's a bit of a reach, but a
config game where he plays well is like some of the best Counter
Strike to watch. He's so fun to watch.
When he was good, the issue was it was like maybe in like 1
Series per event if you're lucky, and it was usually like a
group stage game. I don't know, it's it's a shame,
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but also like after the nip thing and also.
So yeah, I wanted to make a point about this.
So he was brought on as an emergency sub for Nip, right.
I think it was during a Cato I believe was the.
Three-year emergency sub Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he was, yeah. His contract was three years
long, which I'm not going to sayhow I know that, but I've.
I've been told that and that's another issue with, you know,
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rules being kind of like disregarded by teams and stuff
right, like we spoke about kind of a length lately, but I always
thought that was a little bit fucking shady because I believe
he was replacing Hampus, right? Hampus without sick, yes, and
obviously they're like. I get sick of playing for Nip
and like he. Came back and he was like, yeah,
the two fucking sucks and now he's like benched on joining
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speeds or some shit. But yeah, I don't know, like
that that Nip team, like I thinkwe're, we're all fans of of
modern day Nip, like this current iteration, I think we
all kind of root for them a little bit.
But for a long time, NRP was just fucking how much shit can
we pile on top of each other to make it something kind of not
(06:17):
shit? And it's always going to be
shit, isn't it? Can I just say, by the way,
Hampus is on a much more cursed team than the bench of Johnny
Speeds. Where is he?
Do you know what he's doing right now, Jack?
I've seen. I definitely see it.
Me, me and Elliot have seen it. Let me get it on.
Screen, I'd like a reminder. Oh, he's on.
Yeah, he's on the the Radar team.
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Look at that. Ain't that fantastic?
No, no, sorry. That team is.
Not your your mate, your mate. That team's not using radar rain
Waker. No, there were reasons when when
Oxygen was playing for them, they were using radar.
Yeah, yeah. What happened to Oxygen?
Did they just did he get banned or did they just?
Converted it to CO2, it's. Good.
(07:00):
Brilliant. This is like right, I'm going to
be nice to vault because he's young, but this is bottom
central isn't? It how's Zurk?
Doing Zurk doing 25. Yeah, what's he look like
nowadays? There's no way he's good.
There's no way he's he was never.
Point O 5. That's about what I expected.
Let's see the last 6, yes? No, do do less, do less free
(07:22):
mums because I think that's whenthey built the roster and then
minute. It's barely got worse.
Can you still see the rest of the team on this page?
You can't remember. Also, anytime they've made
anyone good, he's even worse. Oh, what's the what's the most
the team look like? Hang on, was it?
Was it? Cirque you just used to play
(07:43):
like play like mobile games or was that poison like mid prac?
Poison. Poison, if he even showed up.
Throughout some entire team period here.
Rainwakers smurfing again. So actually.
Even worse, top player. Oh, no, that's in his whole time
on. OK, right.
OK, well, that's not very useful.
And how's how's oxygen? What's he doing on the previous
(08:05):
players? Why is DJ that's a fucking coach
this is. Was in DJL.
Let's look at Oxygen. Like one of those cursed as a
lineups for a bit. Was it like AS or an MHL?
Oh yeah. Talon.
Maybe, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Rainwaker's doing
all right, getting back on liquid, I reckon.
(08:26):
And oxygen's doing doing nothingother.
Than yeah, but The thing is, no team, nothing brilliant.
I always thought Rainwaker was alright, to be honest.
I thought he was like, not even that bad like.
He he probably shouldn't have been on liquid, but he probably
did deserve a crack at Tier 1. I know, yeah.
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A player from a strong domestic line up and think that they're
just going to be great in a year.
In a but it it was also a horrendous Liquid team that made
no coherent sense. But but Elliot, he was never
going to be good on that team. Did you still have OC?
Yeah, it's OC Rainway. Oh, Patsy Yakin.
(09:07):
Darn fucking hell, can you check?
Something for me, I'm just intrigued.
No Who came first, DJL or Hampus?
Which came first? They came at Hampus by like a
handful of days, by the lots of things.
Interesting. It's both two months.
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They all joined with Vault, but lots of things.
Yes, they basically all joined at the same time and.
Vault's doing OK. So that's that's.
Probably doing all right to be fair.
Anyway, enough about config. Yeah, and and wait, bad players.
One last one last thing, on config, who is the biggest
counter strike? What if?
Doc Dickle take a look at it, though I don't think so.
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No, I don't. I really don't think doc is.
I've got 1. Esperanto.
It's Daisy. I mean.
Esperanto is a good call. Probably a good one.
Do you know who might be a good one considering why you fucked
off Sergey? Yeah, there's a few like.
(10:17):
Ethan. OBO as well, right?
Yeah, Obo's a really good one. But there's a jar of blood and
such things. Allegedly it's got I think it
his family like did. You say Ethan?
Didn't he like did really good valorant?
But he was good at he's. He's just become the two time,
(10:38):
the first two time world. Championship winner.
And I'm like, maybe he would have still been good if, you
know, could have done something like that, Yes.
What about 10? The best NA players?
What about 10s? No, I I always thought not, not
quite not quite at that level, but for NA could have been a
very important player was Curry.I always thought like every time
(10:59):
I saw him play in like NA low itis he was like a step above he.
Wasn't like a United or something, right?
That kind of team. That sort of team, I don't think
he was on it, but yeah, it was like that standard and he was
pretty decent, like every time Iwatched him and then obviously.
And it used to be fun, and it used to be really fun before
that horrible game came out. Yeah.
(11:20):
Basically anyway, move on. Yeah, I'm trying to think
there's going to be other like big what ifs, but we will.
Move on. Leave your thoughts down below.
I think I think Esperanto might have been the best shot though.
I really thought he'd be very good.
Yeah, he looks. He looked so good.
He really did look so good. What about I was.
Talking about Counter Strike, but he's not ugly.
(11:43):
Now let's move on to the CS AsiaChampionships.
We will. I mean, where do you even start
with this? So this whole event was just.
Let's start with the winner. And then I went backwards, I
would say. All right, I was going to say.
Start with phase and go forward.Where the phase here they are.
(12:03):
Yeah, well, I think, oh, I'm going to open it another.
Surprise, surprise, they're shit.
Yeah, I mean, I feel so bad for Jacob.
Like the poor guy, right? He gets to join phase.
He's like, they, they, they losea player.
Yeah, I'm going to like, I'm going to join phase like 2
events in or whatever it was. It gets benched because they had
(12:26):
like because they didn't actually figure out to submit
their roster or whatever the fuck they were doing.
And then and then he gets brought back in and he's like
clearly uncomfortable. Clearly he's he knows he's the
least desirable player on the team because he got benched for
range. You know what I mean?
Like nobody really wants him there.
They really just want to play with rain, probably how it.
Feels is the the beamer. And he's struggling.
(12:49):
Yeah, well. I don't really think anything
you just said is true to be honest.
I mean, he was benched. That's fine, but like some of
these are facts. But the reason he didn't play
was because the fucking invite rules are really stupid and will
cause teams to be outdated. It's the same reason why again I
(13:09):
see was playing at this tournament or a different
tournament. Well, no, they were going to
trial. We spoke about that last week.
No, no, but it was, it was the same thing.
It was because VP had already made changes and then having
that guy trial meant that it would be 1/3 change.
For them, why did VP even go to events, which is what did they
bother? Like it's, it's fucking stupid
(13:30):
for one. But like, I don't really feel
sorry for Jacob at all, to be honest.
Like he was. I think he's in Madison.
But he was the logical person tostep out for that event.
No sure but but I I think Jacob was a player who should have
gone to a gamer legion or a teamof kind of the 1.5 calibre
(13:50):
right? And kind of learnt how to play
at a semi competent level. Like he was the best player on a
bad team. Do you know what I mean?
Well this is the other thing. He also shouldn't be on fucking
phase to begin with. Not.
At all. Yeah.
But now, now his career is completely derailed because of
this move. And he can't, he can't say no to
phase. And like, if face concoling and
you're Jacob, you have to say yes.
(14:11):
But now his career has been like, completely derailed.
Is it? Is it Neo nepotism to be
reckoned? Is that how they found him?
No, it's Kerrigan nepotism in it.
He's why actually, it's cronyism.
Actually go fuck yourself. Whatever the whatever the ISM
is, it's not the reason you should sign players other than
(14:31):
autism that means they're reallygood.
Probably. He's just, he's just, he's buns
in here. Yes, Carrigin's wife works for
Apogee. Is that correct?
Yeah, OK, so she's a sports psychologist, right?
She's really good at that apparently, right?
Like they've done well. Since I know I've never had a
therapy session. Yeah, I can't remember any time
(14:51):
Apogee have have choked him likea big final, so she must be
pretty good. No, yeah, no.
It's like I'm just looking just looking at his numbers before
phase and like he's clearly pretty good at the level he was
playing at. You're going from but yes,
adhere to a best friend, honest here to your team to joining,
you know, a team that's meant tobe top sort of five all the time
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really, you know what I mean? He just shouldn't be on face and
and this is this is what I said last week.
Isn't it like, you know, just try and get him on game of
legion for six months, try and get him on foot for six months,
anything like that. Have another six months of reign
whatever, because he just you just shouldn't be near phase
(15:36):
right now. And this will be something that
you keep seeing and you know, like with this lineup, you'd
probably also see it with rain. But the difference is is that
rain would have impact with a SAT line like that.
Jacob just has a SAT line like that.
I'm going to be connected for all the rounds.
I'm going to do the asterisk of like the prac and travel and
(15:58):
then EPL issues. I'm going to say that they
compounded at least a little bitto to make this performance
particularly awful. They did.
They did win games at this event, by the way, like they
didn't bomb out. They did win 2 two series.
So like, I'm not saying he did very well, but there weren't
like a dog. They.
Did spot on frag every series. The foot is really good so.
(16:19):
They lost twice the foot though.Man, like come on.
Yeah, for who have tattered as the best Academy team ever,
basically the point, the point that now we had to sell them
because they were going to end up taking vRS like slots from
Barbie, so. Well, they they're not Mouse
NXT. Yeah, Mouse AXT is the best
Academy team ever. Yeah, OK, They produced the best
players, but what I'm saying is like, no.
(16:41):
It's the other way around. No?
The the other way around. The The OG Mouse NXT roster is
the best. Academy.
Well, that is mouse, isn't it? Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. This is also like 50th in the
world mouse like 4th. But this is also like I know.
Neither of us. Is it Laux or Laux?
I I say laux, but I don't. Know right, I know he's.
(17:05):
I just don't. Sit around, don't you?
You've been around. I know he's done all right in
this in this series, right? But he's not McCarthy, right?
They also lost their best player.
Like I don't think Faye should ever be losing to Foot and
Elliot if you could just go intotwists.
(17:26):
But are you saying that? With like the news?
No, actually my point is not really.
A real one, yeah. That or there's a practice.
That that interview there, I think it's that one.
Yeah, unlock it out. There we go.
Yeah, so he said. Like, where is it?
(17:47):
OK. We've had four days of practice
with Jacob and that was before EPL.
No, I don't know what just happened.
What happened there? I didn't touch it.
It was great. And it.
Yeah. Before, before EPL, then we had
no practice during EPL because we played with rain, and then we
travelled straight from EPL after our very last match to
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here and played the very next day after arriving.
So OK, that one's reasonable, right?
I'll agree on that one. That one's reasonable.
It's not a surprise that the maps are really messy.
You can't expect people to remember a playbook from three
weeks ago and use it. Florida State.
Do you know what though? Sorry.
No, no shit, the infamous Carrigan playbook have spread
(18:29):
out in search for clues. I'll die and then clutch.
Yeah. Fuck that guy.
But also they just made top fourat the tournament with a stand
in. Like I'm sorry, that just
doesn't fly when you're losing to fucking foot.
You beat. Spirit a week ago, not even a
(18:49):
week ago like and you almost beat vitality.
Let's not fuck about here. You just played like shit.
It it basically and this face team is just.
Maybe he's very depressed. I would be after, you know, the
rigmarole he's been put through.Oh fuck off.
(19:09):
Well, no, I, I think, you know, the mental factor does matter.
And now that he's not got his mental care.
Well, maybe Carrion should get his wife on the blower and not
figure it out. Sure.
It's not what I've heard call. Anyone's wife but.
Have you never heard the blubber?
No, I haven't, but I'm sure it's.
It means it means mobile phone or phone, thinks Elliot.
(19:33):
But yeah. Yeah, it's a common thing.
Phase are never going to be, notwith this team.
I'm I'm bored of them. But it's fun.
Different fuck phase. Let's talk.
About right, wouldn't they? Oh, heroic and really funny,
actually. It's just I've been really good
and really shit. It's quite funny.
No, no, they're really funny in this event because Hades was the
best player coming out of the group stage.
(19:54):
Hades is good man Hades. Yeah, yeah, OK, you say that.
Could you go on to the semi final that includes heroic
please? I've already got it open.
They wouldn't have got there with that Hades.
Hades nuts, am I right? Isn't nearly positive.
(20:16):
Yeah, I mean, it's not, it's notthe best.
It's just really funny how. You.
That's kind of like the best, atleast.
For the reason your team's lost.Like it's not even like he's so
I always thought Hades was like he plays map scores.
He used to use the orb like a rifler, which I like.
He was very, very passive and hewould just sort of like Anchor
basically with it, which I on ends, which is why I always
(20:40):
thought like when they replaced it, when they didn't he get
replaced by Valde or something, I was like, oh, he's actually
like he's actually fine because Valde kind of plays like that
anyway. Hades.
Maybe this was another team. Maybe I just.
Maybe I just. No.
So it was when they when they sold Spinks, they benched Hades
(21:03):
and then. That was it.
Some pious and valde. Yeah.
And I was like, well, they're just going to use some players
more aggressively and put Valde in like the sort of roles that
Hades was doing. Whereas like actually when he's
in a more aggressive, in a more star role at Tier 2, he's
actually like very, very good. It's just he can't.
He can either be the passive player at Tier 1 and be passable
(21:27):
or a star at Tier 2, but he can't be a star at Tier 1.
Hades is just too good for the championship, not quite good
enough for the. Yeah, he's Robert Earnshaw.
OK. He's he's also a renter player.
Like he he just, he just shows up for a week on every like.
Everything crazy on G2 he was pretty pretty decent and they
(21:48):
had to he. Was he was passable?
Yeah, he wasn't. Yeah, like he he, he's a, he's a
decent player who you just get on loan for a little bit when
you don't know what else to do. He's, what's the word?
A mercenary, you know. Yeah, I see Jacasmo's light it
up on Fanatic. Yeah, that was worthwhile.
Jude, Jude, I'll see how they did against 3D Max, because I
(22:09):
think 3D Max are probably worth talking about as well, right?
Like. They're just, they're on the
cusp of being like consistently pretty good.
And then they they kind of. I'm saying they are consistently
pretty good, but yeah, not winning this tournament is
elected. So are they are they Aurora from
like 2 years ago? No.
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And what's they were? They were eternal fire then
where they're like. That French?
On the cusp of like because I think back then, like Aurora was
sort of like the the bottom end of top ten and every time you
were like, oh, this is a chance for them to win.
This is the chance for them to really do well.
They just wouldn't quite do it and you just would never back
them in a semi final against anyone decent.
(22:52):
But they're still a pretty good team.
OK, I'm with you. But can they be a roaring from
this year? No what?
No, I don't think they're kind. Of crap.
Wait, move on. I don't like them.
They just kind of don't have. They just exist.
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Chantarres. Do they?
No, no, I don't know man. Mac is pretty fucking good.
Answers exercise. They're pretty good.
Yeah, but they're not Jantarres.That's why he's got another year
left in his career and then he'sgoing to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. But for the last like for the
last like 15 years, he's been, he's been ungodly.
(23:34):
Like I, I was doing the. He won the.
First game? Not really.
Yes one big online I was doing first game.
I was doing first game last gamefor config in the newsletter
yesterday and his first game he got fucking shit stomped by
Jantaris. Jantaris.
He's been around for so long. Jantaris like dropped 25 he was
like 25 and 12 or something and like configs hinge go have
(23:57):
reason. Evil haircut though.
It was fucking criminal. Yeah, but like 3D Max just don't
have a guy they don't like. They don't have a guy.
I don't. No, they don't.
I don't think Maka is the guy. Is there a guy in his rooms
though right now? What's the fucking?
Zai Wu, but yeah, zai the. Other little guy.
Matthew Valbuena, whatever his name is.
(24:17):
Naty Yeah, in your hands. The one on he meant to be good.
Oh, you mean? Kersey Oh yes, yes.
Best player I've ever seen. Really good.
Really, really good. No, 3D Max are like legitimately
good. I like I had them in like the
big tier from like a few like, yeah, yeah, like when big were
(24:39):
actual gatekeepers and not just fucking dog shit sleepy.
But like, no, like I think this is like they beat OK.
I was going to say they beat some serious teams and they
hovered over versus pro and Lin Vision, but they did meet Liquid
and fanatic who were like Lin Vision or at least, yeah,
they're OK. But like, you know, they're
still slightly unserious. And you're like, you know, if
(25:00):
you beat fanatic Liquid and thenyou win, you're like, OK, pretty
happy with that. That's a pretty serious run.
But then then you bottle it in the final.
Yeah. Listen, if it was a Bo BO3 they
won. Which like right?
Legacy, yeah. I like Dumao, I think he's
(25:22):
pretty good. Lato decent.
Sadsin and Nissim are not good players.
But where are these names comingfrom?
Isn't, isn't Nissim OK? Junk vote?
Here you go. I know, I know, Sadsin sadsin's
like awful, but I feel like no. They're both.
They're both crap, man. They're basically.
Back in the final, actually. So recently Bias said.
(25:42):
Otherwise. Southern is just, obviously.
He also. Yeah, no, he's not Frank.
The last game we're looking. At.
That's fine. Like, yeah, yeah, legacy is
great, though, because obviouslythey they fucking, they bullshit
their way to the Austin major. They broke mortality's one
industry, then did fuck all really, and now they've just won
this. Yeah, the The thing is like
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Dumal Latto were part of it was God sent back way back when
where that God sent team. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Before, Yeah, No, it was. It killed.
Them before Kozuri killed Brazil, that team was like,
yeah, yeah, yeah. So saucy.
Like, actually just so for like,I for some reason, don't ask
why. I was looking back through old,
like, tweets the other day. I can't remember what I was
(26:25):
looking for. And there was one where we, me,
Sam and Harry were talking aboutGod sent and you asked who their
opera was. And I was like, that's a great
question. It depends on the phase of the
moon. Because they would just change
who the awful was like round to round.
Sometimes they they would just whoever fancied it.
He what? Sorry.
Was try on that team as well. They played together.
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No, it was Yeah, they did. Later on Cold 0 signed him.
I also just it was Barton Dumao,Latto Taco and like you know one
of those like Brazilian 4th man's who are all awful.
For example, Sadsin neck is. Bolt No.
(27:07):
No. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not.
I'm not getting into that, but bolts was bolts was fucking
great. Bolts.
Were fantastic. No, you're on, you're on.
Bolts Phelps like anyone that went through that curse spot in.
They had, they had Phelps and they had Henny for a little bit.
Phelps was so. Lucas, that's another one.
(27:28):
Lucas, Yeah, no, Lucas is terrible, but I'm not having
felts and bolts as bad players. Absolutely not.
I'm not saying absolutely just 4th man's.
No, I said fourth men that are terrible.
So that's what exclusively that's what I said.
So no, but he went there. At one point.
What the fuck? Like a British Swedish one but
(27:48):
for like 3 months. But no Elliot, whoever goes in
the 4th man's spot on a Brazilian team, it doesn't
matter who it is. It could have been prime Colt's
error. He would have been shit.
It's it's the most cursed spot on any Counter Strike Ross.
Phelps was OK and actually Boltswas pretty.
Good had a 114 on that team. And Bolts was actually.
Taco was the 4th man. Taco was .95.
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No Taco was the 5th. No I don't care what anyone
says. Taco was the more.
The problem with the problem with Phelps was that he just
made them play bad because he's a certain.
Kind of. He was the highest rate of.
Play I felt no but no but with with Phelps.
Oh on this team I was I thought you meant Phelps on SK.
Phelps on SK was the same thing as Kirby on Australis where
(28:34):
Kirby and Dupiv major MVP have been on the same team and Phelps
and 1st shouldn't have been on the same team.
Yeah, no, of course they shouldn't.
Dumo's surname is is very very clearly Brazilian and not not
German at all, just. I like Lato's surname.
I only found. Latos.
Yeah, but it's so good. Is it Bruno?
Rebelato is a sensational name. That's one.
(28:56):
Of the best names in Counter Strike.
Yeah, it really is. What's the best name in Counter
Strike? Robin Cool.
It's certainly not Pierre balloons.
No, I don't. I don't like Robin.
Cool man. I I don't.
Think Robin cool? It's a good name.
No, I think if it was like a worst first name it would call
it like would take points away. But Robin's quite a cool first.
No Robin cool is like. For a little beard.
(29:18):
This is like the newest version of mambo #5 by Robin.
Cool like. Yeah.
Just. Yeah, The coolest song.
Yeah. He makes music for children.
Yeah, I'm not sure my mambo #5 is for children.
Yeah, it's. Very.
Much not he slept with. Yeah, the opposite.
(29:39):
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Pick me up. Speaking of teams who are good
in the bedroom. Furia.
I'll fuck it, everybody. Furia mambo #5 of Furia.
Yeah, all 5 maps. Yeah, it's Navi.
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It's a rock #5. Yeah, good.
We needed fanatics to win. It could have been jambo #5.
What about latto #5? We have so many.
So many. So many options.
That's a three. Point.
Anyway, back to Furia. They pulled off a reverse sweep.
(32:26):
The rarely seen. Well, actually there's quite a
lot of reverse sweeps for peoplefrom these.
Very inefficient way to clean the floor.
There's not encounters, right? No, as in like best of three
ones. They don't count, right?
Yeah, but they don't count like a.
Sweep. Yeah.
People don't count them for whatever reason.
Best. Best for?
Faster amount of reversing one in BO3.
(32:46):
In the two now. Well, yeah, OK, but the.
First one in CS2, definitely. No, it's not.
Yeah, no, no, no. There wasn't ever one in global
offensive on land. The only ones came in during
COVID. The only one on land before this
was Spirit Reverse swept at Bet Boom Dacha 2023, which was their
(33:11):
last tournament. Art Frost.
Was that dog stadium? Yeah, it was like his first tier
one tournament and spirits last one with Art Frost before Shiro
came in. Sharp frost, anyway.
Well, this is a pretty convincing reversal.
I mean, you obviously you lose the 1st 2 maps to get 15 rounds
like whatever, but that's not good.
And you're like you're panicking.
You got 15 rounds of two maps and then Navi get 14 rounds over
(33:36):
the next three maps as you absolutely just smash em.
So there's a smash em. Elliot, I'm going to assume that
train was after your bedtime. To be honest, Nuke Nuke might
have been after my bedtime. I'm a.
Sleepy boy that train map. I don't think I've ever seen a
(33:59):
team look as lost as Navi did. Now bear in mind, like Moladoy
was just teleporting. Yeah, I mean 20 and 3.
Yeah, yeah, I think he was 17 and two at the end of the first
half. Like actually just teleporting.
Like there was one round he killed 2IN Ivy. 50 McCarthy
round swing, made-up start. But that's fucking crazy.
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It was like he killed like Wonderful and McCarthy Ivy and
then the other three Navi players went into B.
It wasn't even that long afterwards Molitor killed two of
them as well. Have you ever seen that round
from Art? And if you've seen the round
from Art, you'll know exactly the one I'm about to say where
he starts the round getting a pick up lower ramp on B and then
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basically immediately Bunny hopsand gets a kill in A main as
they rotate back. The the best round I've ever
seen. Just purely I would be so angry
if he picked me in B and then hegets a pick in a main like 15
seconds later. I mean, sounds like Molodo was
essentially doing that but just from further away making it less
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cool. Yeah, no, genuinely.
Blade called the timeout, Navi then didn't get a kill in the
next round, and Blade called another timeout.
I've never seen Blade. Do that behind the stage.
But I've actually never seen Blade do that.
It's it's, it's crazy how Navi can can be convincing one of the
(35:29):
best teams in the world or just fucking dog shit.
Well, they beat they beat the Mongols in the semi finals.
What's wrong with this team? And then went two matches. 3
bit. Against who I actually think are
probably the third best team in the world right now.
Yeah, I think it's hard to argueagainst that right now.
I feel like it's vitality, spirit, fury or the the top
(35:50):
three. I'll steal.
Yeah, yeah, they're better than the Mongols, I think.
Yeah, they're better than mouse.Probably better than Falcons.
So yeah, they have to be top three, right?
And just how the fuck do you throw it away?
And then map 5 just isn't even remotely like they weren't in
that game. I can't remember how they won
(36:13):
around, but they were not in that game.
Looking again, it was after my bedtime, but it looks like it
might have been because of it, because he's the only one with
any sort of round swing, any sort of rating.
That that is genuinely one of the worst.
Sorry, I can't understand how hehow he's gone.
Looks like it was bit because he's got he's the only one with
(36:34):
a highlight on train. I just can't understand how his
rating is, is that high because just like, OK, you got us their
only round. Yeah, but that's like, that's an
obscene difference. I'm I'm glad they do that
though, though. If I play well and then my team
(36:55):
plays this badly, I I want the score like I, like, I want the
scoreboard to tell me that I want to go home thinking, you
know what? Actually, it wasn't my fucking
fault. Actually, yeah, no.
I think I am. I think every series.
It's not his fault, it's just that everyone else on that team
is really bad. Dog.
Yeah I mean I'm just looking through he top fragged 3 maps
and finished second on the otherone.
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The only one he did poorly on was Nuke, where he's the ramp
player, right? I mean, did he see four and five
on the CT side? Yeah.
I mean, even on T side, you can tell he was being kind of
aggressive with that sort of. Score you can not do a lot ramp
every round. Give me that.
That's lovely. Yeah.
I mean, you can't have it one. Yeah, I mean, bit continues to
(37:43):
be like the best player on this team despite not being in the
position to be the best player on this team.
I think also just wonderful. I don't know if you guys saw
Monosy picking his top five whoppers in the world, but he
had wonderful at 4th and didn't have more.
Yeah, that's just because they're boys, Yeah.
Like I let's not talk about it. I like both of you.
(38:04):
If I could pug without you, I would.
Well, that is what I do. But who did?
Who did Monosy say out of interest, do you?
Remember. Oh I he had himself and Zai Wu.
I think he has Zai Wu above himself rightly.
Shiro at third, wonderful 4th. Torzi 5th.
Yeah exactly. Shiro is better than I see.
(38:26):
Anyway, you kinda being the worst player on on Furia in this
series is a is a very very good sign.
Yeah. Like as we said, like we talked
about in before, like his role of just kind of running in and
like either just absolutely likeScull fucking people or or just,
you know, getting neutered and you just does it and you think.
(38:48):
You'll fuck, I will say. I will say a large part of this
is down to a GOM Go mirage Elliot.
Mirage. Yeah, I can't remember if it was
the T half or the CT half. But it looks like the.
Horrible first half. But you just.
You take the. Wait, does that mean?
Does that mean there's two halves in this series where he
(39:08):
got one kill? Was it Nuke?
Yeah. So it was Nuke Teesside, wasn't
it? Yeah.
He's so brilliant you don't givea fuck.
He's awesome, but. He's he's not given up.
He had R off. Really.
Yeah, that's. Amazing.
He's got too much in the BO5 that don't really count.
And he's still massively, he's still massively out fragged.
(39:28):
Elections There was a there was a round on train where Navi went
down B ramp again and just the second they came out of ramp you
came down just sat three of themdown just one tapped all three
of them like he's just so he's so good I.
Love him so much. And you know who?
Else this team is awesome because we.
We love to talk about how much we love Fallen on this podcast.
(39:48):
Look at Nuke. I'd just like to say you were
very much you were not a fan of your kinder a few like a year or
two ago. I've always been.
I was a fan of, I was a fan of your kinder on Monolith.
There was a tweet of my .2017 saying your kinder on Monolith.
What do you want? To say because your kinder on
liquid made me want to tie a rope around my neck.
(40:10):
Yeah, everyone on Liquid makes me want to kill myself.
Liquid just ruin. Players I'm.
Gonna say yeah, just you know. Just.
Funny necklace. Yeah.
But yeah, follow me in good is just five.
To go back to my .2 row down in a best of five grand final and
your IGL just does this Like he he just shit on them.
(40:33):
Let's fucking Ramos. He's wonderful.
No, he's wonderful. No, he's not wonderful.
That's the point. That's the point, that's the
point. He's not wonderful.
The rest of this tournament, Didanyone watch it?
Just like, no, I'm just going tobe.
Real. No, I'm not going to fuck.
About I mean, I was dead. I was busy over the weekend, but
I'm not going to fuck about. Even if I wasn't, I wouldn't be
(40:55):
watching this shit. Let's have a look at some of the
highest rated players just so wecome on and beat so we can.
Oh my God, we can't be a myth for an event.
Wikadia. I mean, he used to be good man.
He. Really.
He's a fucking. Myth and more importantly, he's
the lowest rated player at the. Event.
Yeah, I mean this is not right thing at all.
Harbinger you. Know how you know how fanatic?
(41:18):
I think Nico does. Being that bad is is scary
scary. I think that's just could OG
have been bad. You know there's three of them
there. You know how Fanatics coach is
also innocent? Which one of them is the
innocent that's been around? I swear there's an innocent.
Oh, I'm. Innocent, the one on.
That this, this guy is the OG. Like he's been on like this guy.
That's fucking. Stuff he's only 10 posts or more
(41:39):
semester. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bet.
I bet there's some horrible teams on his team.
He's have a look. At Innocent, Really.
It might be a Valorant thing actually.
Yeah, I think you're you're smoking the Kool-aid.
He's also he's gone Rebels secret, Taz's Team Honoris.
He's got he's got 4. Pages of events, Yeah.
(42:02):
Mad Lions. Illumina 10.
Percent I can do it. I know 10 postal sprout.
Get that roster up. Get that, get that roster up.
By the way, whichever Storm justany of.
Storm, let's just pick up and. You're going to fucking giggle
and shit. Speaking of Esperanto now.
(42:23):
Look at that team, the. Biggest one if ever.
That is awful. I think HS and Innocent were
both mentioned as harbingers in the House of their.
Team article. Oh no.
Fanatic is independent. It's not innocent.
Painter as well on here. Yeah, this guy has been on some
dobry. Gaming what?
(42:44):
What a team name. Yeah, I mean, what we're getting
guys, innocent is quite poor andit's not surprising that he's at
the bottom. He's got Yeah, No, I didn't.
I did not watch like when you'vegot Thunder Pick and CSA
championships on at once, like Ibarely have break capacity to
watch one tournament like this. I'm not watching both.
(43:06):
Yeah, yeah, they're just like, I'm glad that Fioria won this
one. I'm glad I watched the final.
I think people will just like asterisk it though of like, Oh
well, they didn't really beat any.
Anyone that challenging like theMongols is obviously a very big
win, but this current RV is likenot good.
(43:31):
Right. You can win the major.
You can win the major and people.
Asterisk, yeah. No, I know, like I think ICE
have a fucking win and it's valid, right?
But like, I just, you know. Yeah, no, like I don't.
I don't anyway, or it's not relevant.
I don't care. You can win the major and people
or still write it off. Fuck you all.
I mean, yeah, but you think really the first?
Do you think Navi and Phase can actually get good again?
(43:54):
Yeah, just blow them up and likemix the players around a little
bit and you'll get some in kind of fun.
One of those teams will come outOK.
They I think Navi. Will not have Carrigan or Relaxi
though. I.
Think Navi. It would have to have.
More likely to. Yeah, I think Blade does way
more than the others. Blade has made multiple line of
(44:15):
speaking. Yeah, that, that's part of it.
And I think bit is just such a ridiculously good foundation if
you just like, it's so much easier to find a star player
than it is to find. Bit what if?
What if you swapped? Frozen and McCarthy.
Carrigan and Jacob with McCarthyand Alexi and Blade and.
(44:39):
I think McCarthy. Aren't both teams then just
awful? I think that's the most sideways
move ever. I think that they both remain
equally. Well, McCarthy's much better
than Jacob McCarthy's. Active, yeah, but phase are
worse than Navi, so they both like.
They're both just yeah, but instead of like Navi being like
7th and Phase being 12th. But then they also get frozen
(44:59):
twists and brokey. They already have frozen twists
and brokey and it's still rubbish like.
No, as in Alexi and McCarthy getfrozen twists and brokey, and so
does Blake. They don't deserve that.
Like Frozen twists and brokies abetter trio than Emma.
Wonderful and bit. Yeah exactly and they should
(45:20):
probably play 3V5 and they'll dobetter not that's carry around
Carrigan's. Yeah, no, again, that's the
thing. I would, if I had to pick one of
these teams to build from, I would pick Navi because I think
it's easier to find a star player to play with it.
I think Bit is the best player in the world in his role.
I don't think there's a single phase player you can say that
(45:42):
about. So I think that's a better
foundation. Yeah, yeah.
I'll I'll shake on that. And I think get it, get it like
if Navi lose bit, I don't think they can replace him and I think
it's difficult, but I think you can replace frozen.
There's always. What are you doing in this role
(46:02):
as here? Sort of if you look at the
positions he plays and the players he's, yeah, like he's
sort of he's a half anchor. He's not a full anchor, is he?
But like, if you look at the spots he plays and the players
that he's most similar to, it's like Yim Fat.
I. Can't remember I looked this up
(46:23):
a few weeks ago because I writing about it and like he I
think he's even like higher rated any spots than Rob's and
Rob says like shares some spots with him.
And I mean I think Rob's is likeGod tier.
So maybe Rob's is better than BIT, but like BIT is
ridiculously, I don't know. That was OK.
No, you said what I wanted you to say that Robs is is just
(46:46):
better than bit. But bit.
Is he is, but I don't think. Robs and bit are actually.
I think it's. I think it's.
The Venn diagram's pretty. I think.
I think they're one for 1:00-ishon CT side.
I think Robs gets slightly different roles on T.
Side if I'm. Call but I don't.
For these one, for 1:00-ish players, it's yeah, frozen in
(47:09):
that order. And then you're in fat,
probably. Maybe not.
This year like 5th or 6th? Last year, sure.
Not this year, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean. This year.
Techno. Yeah, fine.
Regardless, I'd rather build from bit than.
Speaking of of. I'd rather build from phase
(47:30):
because there's just more players to build from.
Did you did you see that Techno was listed as breakout Player of
the Year nominee for these sports awards?
Oh, hilarious that. Isn't it hilarious?
Now I've got so many problems with that one.
It's nowhere near his best year.And B, it's not a breakout.
Yeah, yeah. But.
(47:50):
If anything, it's the opposite. You know it's because he's the
WC MVP. The only reason that's.
I I am probably not a liberty tocomment on that, but I can
imagine that that definitely hassomething to do with it.
Yes, that's yeah, probably, definitely.
Let's let's move on to what is probably the last story of the
week, because there's not reallya whole lot going on.
(48:13):
The BC Game have signed Electronic in their attempts to
make the angriest team ever. I I genuinely, I really fucking
hate this team. Can you open like?
Nexer is going to hear slurs that nobody has ever heard
(48:35):
before, like they're going to beinventing new slurs for Nexer on
this team. Electronic and simpler go to
hate him. It's just one of the worst
looking teams we've ever seen, which is crazy because simple's
on it. I know, but it's really.
But it's it's simple. Who'd rather play Dota than?
And that's not even allegedly either, but that's just a fact
(48:57):
at this point. Yeah, yeah.
That's. The worst We're not even he.
Literally. Didn't play a game and then was
on those instead which is hilarious.
But like okay, so for a team like this nexa fine IGL I'm not
going to give. Yeah, I actually don't mind
Nexa, but. Sassanito and Andrew are bad.
They are both bad and electronichas genuinely been like the
(49:21):
counter strike equivalent of fucking Osama bin Laden for the
past three years. Like.
I don't know, I feel like Bin Laden had a fucking high O KD.
Oh bin Laden absolutely had a high O KD.
He's like fucking bin. Laden was a coach, though,
wasn't he Sat home moving the chess pieces.
He was Blade, you know, like. Gaddafi in the back of a truck
(49:46):
after he's been pulled out of a sewer or whatever the fuck it
was like. I I feel like what's?
Happened Olivia's in the sewers but.
What what's happened here is Sassanito just before his move
to where he went on like trial with NRG or wherever it was
where he was rubbing fucking. Shit.
I'm just going to, yeah, whatever.
Just before that happened, Sassanito found a monkey's paw
(50:07):
and he rubbed it and was like, Ijust please let me play with
simple one day. Please.
I want to play with simple one day.
And what's happened is he's on BC game and he's got simple
electronic the absolute like in the absolute pits.
Like, the terrifying thing aboutthis team is that Emmy's
probably the best rifler. No, no, no, no, no.
(50:29):
Simple. It's probably the best rifle,
but then it's heavy. It's simple.
Nexer, Emmy. And.
Then the actual. Ride not even bad, it's just and
do just should not be near A-Team ever This this thing
simples 28 electronics 27, so there's not much feature
(50:51):
proofing. Obviously any team of simple
can't really plan to feature proof because you know he's
volatile. Let's just say is he being good?
What the fuck I? Mean he's been.
Following me, They play, they play.
Teams that are. Not real like.
Yeah, let's let's have a look. He's playing against eternal
fire, not the. Not the one we think.
(51:13):
Yeah, he's got negative against Ruby here.
I mean, is there anyone? No.
Is there anyone? OK, OG, you know, 1.3 is OG,
1.22 against OG. He has gone negative in every
map, but we've done all that. Do they only play OG?
What's going on? And they played and.
That boom as well. Negative that.
(51:36):
Boom. Negative.
He's not good. Like he's actually not good.
No, he's not good. That's not that's not what I was
getting at. But you know, you did say he
shouldn't be anywhere near. Oh, no, Jack said.
He shouldn't be anywhere near A-Team, which you know, probably
should maybe be near like, well,he should maybe be near parties
and the next. Excellent.
(51:57):
It's just like this is BC game just obviously have like fuck
you money right? So they can't just do this shit
but like electronica has not looked happy for like 4 years.
I don't think electronics ever looked happy to be.
Fair think you smiled when they won the major but like that's
probably it. Possibly.
(52:17):
I just don't. I don't get it at all.
I just feel the most sorry for Nexa because, you know, now like
his time on this team. Yeah.
You know the fucking the fuckingrubbers.
Yeah. Actually, that's next, all
right. Now, like electronic can be
there Now, like, no, I don't want to like, yell anymore.
I'm not a good ideal motherfucker.
(52:38):
You've already done this once. You weren't meant to go, Nigel.
How is this allowed to happen again?
Versus pro? Like Pocket.
Podcast we're back. Hello.
We're we're, we're, we're. Back.
We're back. We're back.
We're back. Then what happened there?
The the POPO tried to take me down for illegal use of HLTV.
(52:59):
You are licensed. We're just saying I do have a
license for that. I have a license to scroll.
So Jane, as you can see, he had a bit of a spell away from the
team, rejoined here, electronic joins here.
And then it's like, yeah, less, just over half a year probably
between him joining, between electronic joining and Jane
(53:20):
being cut. I think that's the question,
wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, it was.
It was. How long did electronic take
before the fucking and? We killed the team.
Before the IGL fucking hours started.
Talking the Green Goblin mask. Yeah, it's.
Sad. I just, it's so sad, isn't it?
(53:41):
Like what's What's become of electronic?
Is it? I think it's deserved.
He absolutely ends every media day I've done with him, so I
think this is karma. Well sure, that part is valid,
but like electronic and simple were like.
(54:03):
Crazy good. Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, maybe the best like Rifle or FUO ever.
At least for a time, they were. Michael Ailey and easy.
Come on. Yeah.
No, you are. You're very correct.
Say Michael Ailey's name out of your mouth, Fox, and easy, now
we're talking God. Didn't, didn't Fox.
(54:24):
We actually know. I'll, I'll.
Leave. We just don't need to talk about
Fox. He's just, he's just one of
those guys. You don't need to talk.
About him, Did you do do a crimelately?
I feel like there was. Did he?
I don't. Want to talk about on the
podcast because I might be wrongbut we'll discuss it.
After I'm just going to I'll Google off screen fox.
Do a crime. It's just fantastic.
(54:46):
Mr. Stealing, Whatever. Time do the crime.
Hang on. I'm going to put this on screen
now. I mean from from if I recall
it's not far off this. Oh, OK, yeah, I mean that's.
(55:06):
Fox kind of does look like a criminal.
Anyway, let's just get on the take of the week because I'm
kind of talking about rubbish teams.
Rubbish. Yeah.
I mean, we're nearly at the end,yeah.
Fuck electronic. I think that's proof that we're.
We're Last Rivals is happening in Hong Kong, guys.
Isn't that exciting? In Chet lap cock.
Was that accent there? Did I detect that accent?
I feel like that was not necessary.
(55:27):
I'm not really sure, Let's move on.
Anyway, the take of the week. Anyway.
Yeah, yeah, Thorin thought was funny.
It is kind of funny in Thorin's offense, it is kind of funny.
Check up cock. Yeah, it's awesome.
And Thorin said where in Hong Kong and.
O was in Paris. It's the same as that right?
It's it's the. Yeah.
You know, yes, and and. Reddest TQAQ reddest QAQ quack
(55:52):
responds with never step a foot in any Asian country, I will
find you and stab you. Random old guy making fun of
whole continent like this unacceptable and unk pushing 50
and a picture of electronic looking angry as always saying
I'll find you in Moscow Moscow Moscow and kill you you fucking
bitch. Which he said to according to
(56:14):
this image were LED it obviouslyit's meant to be world at it
willed it. So there's a couple of things
about this tweet that I find very amusing in any Asian
country he will find yourself. You do know how big Asia is?
That's that is. Vast.
It's fucking big random old guy making.
He doesn't make fun of the wholecontinent by the way.
(56:35):
He makes fun of Czech lab cock. Unacceptable.
I mean, it's kind of acceptable.I'm pushing 50 and this is just
correct though, isn't it? So Gold is Thorin because he.
That's what I'm about to look at, I realise.
I realise if you Google Thorin it comes up with a.
Bloke from the whole of the racecharacter.
(56:56):
Which is 40. Two I guess yeah 42 so he's.
I mean aging 50 is over 25. Is pushing 50, isn't it really
so? Hyperbolic.
I mean, that's yeah, that's not really an issue with it.
I had no idea how old to think by the way.
I would have said. 40s I thought.
(57:16):
I think he'd be a bit older. Yeah, I think I would have said
early 40s, just because he's been around for a while and I
think he was in his 30s when I remember watching.
But he is senile, which makes you think he's older.
I don't think he is senile, I think.
That yeah, that's unfair. There's there's a lot of things
you can say about Thorin but attacking his memory based not
(57:37):
the path to go, yes. And the fast guys, is that what
she means? You got bad memory?
Yeah, I thought, it's about likeold and duh.
Well, it's sort of like your, your, your brain and your memory
starts to fade. That's the answer really is.
OK, well that's completely wrongbecause he's like demented
autism. Yeah, yeah.
Like he's. Yeah.
He just knows everything. OK, Well, he's not senile,
(57:59):
great, but he's old man. The closest venue to the airport
in history is good. I will say that this is a short
trip. You can bet like you, isn't it?
They will basically like you'll come out of here, you'll go into
the airport to get some food like.
We come in and you want to go toHong Kong.
It's wild. I'd love to go I'd.
Love to have gone. So I know, I know it just says
(58:21):
it says a Cate City or Cathay, but Cate's is a, is a small
section of Cardiff, which is like really, really grotty.
It's just fine. That's so cool.
It's just all of Cardiff condensed.
The Cardiff is awful. I'm told the food in Hong Kong
is very, very good, so I would like to go but it's not
happening, OK? Well, with that then, should we
(58:43):
fuck off? And I mean, it's a trip to Hong
Kong maybe. What a great episode that was.
Sorry, there was not much news. Yeah, we filled the time by like
clicking on random players profiles and yeah, waxing
lyrics. Can we, Can we?
Silly episodes, but I do. Can we go back to the image of
Fox do a crime just to I want tolook at it.
OK, I've got to find it again. Sorry, Jack, say what you were
(59:06):
going to say. No, I think this is far more
important, honestly. Go do a crime, Miles Prower.
Prower, it's not even. There's another one here if you
want it. Nah, it's not Nah.
New Ground's a dangerous website.
I've. Been on it, can you send me that
one please? I liked that. 10 that that God
no, that's. Your that image represents for
(59:28):
that being on screen. It's just like that.
The hunter is electronic and thefox is just like any team's
hunter, any IGL. Yeah.
Thanks for watching everybody. Yeah.
Cheers. Cheers.
Something that makes it. What events are happening this
week? Nothing.
Big wrist. Does that start in time for the
next? Week wrist.
I do, yeah, in six days. So yes.
(59:50):
I'm us. Well, we're talking about.
Another day, everyone's doing, everyone's doing Swiss system
nowadays. My legacy is.
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