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June 17, 2025 34 mins

In this episode of Owned and Operated, HVAC business experts Jack Carr and John Wilson break down the sales strategies that drive revenue growth at every stage of a home service company’s journey. Whether you're running a $1M shop or scaling past $50M, understanding how to structure your HVAC sales team is critical—and it starts with knowing the difference between marketed leads and technician-generated leads.

Jack and John explore why top HVAC companies like Four Seasons, Logan Services, and Peterman Brothers separate their sales teams based on lead source, and how that impacts close rates, efficiency, and scalability. From peer groups and sales training to seasonal lead flow and process refinement, this episode delivers real-world strategies for owners looking to increase HVAC revenue, optimize sales performance, and build scalable systems that actually work.


🔹 In This Episode, We Cover:

  • The difference between marketed leads vs. tech-generated leads

  • Why large HVAC companies often split sales teams

  • Seasonal weather’s impact on lead flow and performance

  • Peer groups as a catalyst for refining sales strategy

  • Challenges in scaling marketing-led sales for smaller operators

  • Sales process breakdowns from Four Seasons, Logan, and Peterman

  • The role of efficiency and closing rates in mature orgs

  • Strategies for training techs to sell in the field


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👤 Hosted by:

 Jack Carr 

 John Wilson 


📣 This episode is sponsored by Owned and Operated Pro 


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💼 Special Thanks to Service Scalers!

We’ve been partnering with Service Scalers to maximize our Local Service Ads (LSAs) and optimize our Google My Business profiles, and the results have been incredible. With hundreds of thousands in sales and 900+ calls in a single week, GMBs are now our top-performing organic lead channel.

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