December 4, 2025 • 41 mins
In this listener story episode, Judi sends an update from Creepy People Chronicles: Mediums & Mischievous Spirits! Featuring the Delaney House, the symbolism behind her oracle card reading, and a fateful house fire that led her entire household to become volunteer firefighters. We also hear from Clint in Canada about a possible Halloween-night cryptid sighting! Ending tonight’s spooky tales with Kyle’s eerie but gentle, 3AM wake-up call.
If you have any true crime, paranormal, or witchy stories you'd like to share with us & possibly have them read (out loud) on an episode, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com or use this link!
David's hand-drawn Kickstarter tarot deck! “The Liminal Deck is a traditional 78-card tarot deck with a non-traditional construction. De-gendered and de-saturated, drawing on vaguely unsettling, yet familiar imagery to recreate quiet contradictions of the dreamscape, it's the deck unlike any other.” -Whiskey Terra Foxtrot.
Previous Delaney House Episodes
Delaney-Edwards House Salem: Historical Landmark & Dark Secrets
Ghosts of the Delaney House
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If you have any true crime, paranormal, or witchy stories you'd like to share with us & possibly have them read (out loud) on an episode, email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com or use this link!
David's hand-drawn Kickstarter tarot deck! “The Liminal Deck is a traditional 78-card tarot deck with a non-traditional construction. De-gendered and de-saturated, drawing on vaguely unsettling, yet familiar imagery to recreate quiet contradictions of the dreamscape, it's the deck unlike any other.” -Whiskey Terra Foxtrot.
Previous Delaney House Episodes
Delaney-Edwards House Salem: Historical Landmark & Dark Secrets
Ghosts of the Delaney House
Visit our website! Find us on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Patreon, & more!There are so many ways that you can support the show: BuyMeACoffee, Spreaker, or by leaving a rating & review on Apple Podcasts.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Right behind the web stand some kind of creature decoration
I have not seen before. It was about four maybe
five feet tall and standing straight up?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Was it, Caitlyn?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, this next part, I'm gonna guess No. It is
covered in brown hair. The head and body are a
big ball with a mouth in a slight smile. Okay,
only what.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, Caitlin, Hi Cassie. You like how I waited until
you were taking a drink of your wine to say
hi to you? Yes, but always so demure. Yes. I
made it a quick sip and just kept on rocking
and rolling' I saw it in your eyes. You saw
me take the breath in, and you're like, she is
(01:00):
gonna fucking I know, start right now while I'm sipping.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I knew it. I knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hi people, Creepy People. This is PNW Hanson Homicides, where
we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things
spooky in the Pacific Northwest, oh. We also do a
tarot reading at the end. Besides getting off track, we
do a terroot reading at the end of every episode
for a little deeper insight into our topic. In our
Creepy People Chronicles, episode episodes because there's not just one,
(01:29):
there's multiple. Those are stories that you've emailed us, that
you've told us in person, that you've sent your voice
even sometimes like we were just talking about, like voice recording,
and then we play it. Oh yeah, and then we
do a Tarot read or usually an oracle reading for
you individually, so you get your own little reading for free. Man.
(01:51):
I love it. I mean for free in exchange for
us reading your story. You know. Yeah, Okay, So today
is a Creepy People chronicles and we have some up
for you, some new stories. But first I want to
remind everyone about the kickstarter that we just talked about
a few episodes ago. It was called Beyond the Cards,
(02:11):
Art Taro and Liminal Spaces. Love it where we talked
to David of Whiskey Tara Foxtrot and can everyone give
me a round of applause for saying it right? Because
I said it wrong twice in the episode. I could
not get my shit together. Thank you David for just
being there to support me and just saying it for
(02:32):
me because I was a terrible hostess. I felt like,
So David is hand drawing. It's called the Liminal Deck
and it's really cool, and I want one. We have
donated to the kickstarter, so we get a tarot deck
of our very own, So everyone go donate so that
we could have one, like selfishly.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I sent a little note via the Patreon app
for one of our new subscribers.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We've got a new subscriber at Hi ten doll hairs.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I'm not a thousand percent sure on the pronunciation,
but I believe it is a lae Ooh I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, pronounced it wrong. We'll shout you out again.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but I'm going to be putting their card out
in the mail. Normally they go out like within forty
eight hours, and the turnaround with the holiday is a
little bit on the slower side, right, So sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Same to Judy. I mean, you're I still haven't sent
your card, but you know what it's coming. And we
both signed it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, I was gonna say, didn't I sign Judy's card.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm trying. I'm trying so hard. Okay, let's talk about you.
Let's do it. Let's do it, Judy. It's all about you, Bye, Baty.
See do you remember we were talking about how do
you remember the farm nanny we were talking about and
then she ended up like marrying him later, yes, actually
(04:00):
with her shitty ex at the time. Yeah, Ill, I
was like making a little like, oh it was it
was like Princess Bride and on the farm, and he
was like, as you wish. But I didn't mean to
imply that there was any.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like, oh shenanigans.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah. I wasn't implying there was any shenanigans or I
wasn't trying to. It may have sounded like it, but
I think it was just kind of that like building
that love and friendship and like, yeah, you know, I'll
do this for you. I'll do that for you, like
building trust. So that's what she meant by that. She
did confirm they were just friends at the time. And
then do you remember that they had a really big
(04:37):
house fire? And she kind of just mentioned, oh, we
had this fire, and then like moved on and we
were like, wait, hold on, yeah, I do remember that
your entire house burned down. So we have follow up questions,
we do, and we have we have more to the
story about the fire. So she says the house burned
down in May May twenty fifth one, which was oh
(05:01):
my gosh, so long ago. I was like in middle school.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I don't even think I was born yet.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right at the time, it was her ex husband and herself,
her son, roommate, and her nephew. And she said her
nephew was basically an adult, so don't think that she
was taking care of yet another child. Oh yeah, there
was a few kids in that house, oh boy, and
her roommate's kid wasn't there at the time, so that's okay.
(05:29):
It was a school day and my son had a
doctor's appointment up at Ohsu. So we were sleeping in.
My husband, who always overreacted to everything husbands and why
are men, came running into the bedroom saying the house
was on fire.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, I mean that's I'll allow it, although I will
say there is something that's a little bit frustrating about
people that like are just always overlaid, dramatic.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's like the boy who Cried Wolf. It's that story
is around for a reason because happened.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I think like it's important, like get your shit
together when it's really serious. I don't know, just saying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So he came running in and said the house was
on fire, She says, I guess he was being nice
this day because he also informed everybody else, which is like,
damn want any other day, Like he wouldn't have told
you guys the house was burning down. Hella, you're not
together anymore. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I was gonna say, we have like the benefit of hindsight,
and we know that, like we're like, listen, we already
know we don't like this character.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right exactly. Uh, knowing that my husband just overreacted to
literally everything, we all just rolled back over and went
back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay, So literally that's the problem with crying woolf.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He came in a second time and I got up
to see what was going on. Yep, the house was
on fire, and my wonderful husband took my shoes from
took my shoes from right by the door and ran
outside with them. I carried them or did he put
them on his own feet? Either way, that's not nice,
not cool. Well, it gets worse because she says, as
(07:09):
I'm attempting to put out the fire, which is like,
so she's attempting to put out the fire and he's
just running away with her shoes on.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's not funny, but it is funny because it's like,
you know, people respond to fear in strange play I've
just yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't. I'm glad that he managed to wake them
up and like came back and made sure they were
I'm just going to focus on that part, so she says.
As I'm attempting to put out the fire, which was
a huge failure, and making sure everybody was out, I
realized that I didn't have shoes, because you know, you're
(07:48):
busy and you're not thinking about your feet.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're a busy business lady who is doing things about
the farm, and you don't have no time for shoes.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Putting out fires, saving people. I ran back past the
fire to grab myself a pair of shoes. Oh my god,
and saw my cat. I was able to get the
cat that was even closer to the fire than I was. Unfortunately,
my little fire belly toads, my fish, and my son's
(08:20):
hamster didn't make it. I'm sorry, Judy. I know they're
just like people would be like, oh, they're just like
toads and fish and a hamster.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But I mean, honestly, it's impressive that a hamster lives
for more than six months in any household. So yeah,
you know, maybe hang your hat on that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But that's awful, I know, on the toads I, okay,
so now I have I'm torn because I'm glad he
took her shoes because if she didn't need to run back,
which I know, you're like, you're you're not really thinking,
but like, oh my god, Judy ran back into the
fire to get your shoes. But obviously it was so
she would see the cat, you know. Yeah, so there
(09:03):
was more to it than that. Yeah, I feel like
it all happened for a reason, for a reason in
the cat. So Judy goes on to say it was
just a mess trying to even get the fire trucks
there to put out the fire. The house was a
total loss. The next year, we found out that the
fire department was wanting volunteers, so the roommate, the husband,
(09:25):
and I all volunteered. When the kiddo got old enough,
they volunteered as well. Oh it says Hebby and I
have now retired after putting in twenty years as volunteer firefighters. God,
I said that weird, but you know, because I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's amazing that you had this tragedy
of a fire in your house. And then you're like, well,
(09:46):
what am I going to do with that, I'm going
to go help fight fires.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, and I don't know, like what logistically was the
issue with getting the fire trucks out to them if
it were like, you know, they were just because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They were on a farm. So I don't know, like
maybe it was just, Yeah, it can be difficult, like
you hear nine one one calls where it's like people are.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, ems workers, firefighters, police, whatever, They're struggling to
find the location of the person that needs their services.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It could be that or I mean I don't have
enough or yeah, I mean but you know, yeah, that's
really cool. I love that. I love that. Judy, Okay,
so do you want to know about the bee and
the owl on the card? Yes? What I took away
from this was why why was the bee out when
(10:36):
it really should be hunkered down at home? Which is
kind of what we were saying, like why is be
out at night? Why am I always out when I
should be at home with my ex? I would always
stay at work late. It wasn't until I got him
out of the house that I realized what I was doing. Oh, Like,
obviously you didn't want to be home with someone who's toxic, right,
(10:57):
so you're right, trying to be that big and like stay.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Out right well, and you're trying to do something that
feels like you can legitimize it right, like you know,
staying late at work or something like that, as opposed
to like staying late at.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Or right, or like going out with your friends or
like hanging out a bar or something like. Yeah, no
judgment if that's what you do, because I mean I
do that shit too, but like that's what you're saying.
She was just staying at work and being like a
busy bee to stay away. But even now I help
with the Nightmare Factory and do a couple other nonprofit
things as well. I stay incredibly busy and maybe should
(11:40):
be at home more. Everyone tells me I should rest, Judy.
We understand, yeah, and I understand like it maybe now
it's not that you're trying to like stay away from
home because you have what sounds like a wonderful husband now, yeah,
but it's kind of maybe just you're used to that.
That's what you've always done, so.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It can be really hard to give yourself permission to rest.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We were just talking about that and I was like, Caitlin,
do I need to come and slap you, and she said, actually,
I need to rest, so I'd rather not. Yeah, I
don't want to work that hard, but she says, meanwhile, Gabe,
her husband now, is what you would call a night owl.
He will stay up until three in the morning on
most days. So like he's the night owl, she's the
(12:28):
busy bee. I love it. She really connected to the
card we pulled for her. And you know something really weird.
I tend to just wear black. Black is my happy color.
I get it. That's me, Cassie saying, I get it.
I get it. I'm wearing all black right now. But
(12:50):
I found this shirt that just basically dropped in my
lap and it felt like I just had to have it.
It has bees all over it, and she sent a
pick Wow, isn't that crazy? How like we're just so
confused about the bee, Like why is this bee on
this card? We don't really understand it, and like she
just has this new be shirt that she just had
(13:11):
to have. It's it all connects. It's crazy. I love it.
So she also sent us a story about the Delaney House,
which we read on the last episode, but we had
some questions. Yeah, I was like another one I'm not
another one, but it says so we were asking if
Vicky owned the house when she saw she saw a
stick figure there out on the porch. Oh, and yes
(13:33):
she did, so she was friends with Vicky, they she
owned the house while they were there. I've also seen
one a stick figure one in the bathtub upstairs a
couple of times. And when I was there with VICKI upstairs,
she was telling me people like would see stick figures
dancing in the tub. And I don't remember if that
(13:55):
made it into our actual interview because we were just upstairs,
like getting a tour of the house. I don't remember
if made it into the interview, but I thought that
was pretty cool. So I'm like, Judy is one of
the people who have seen the stick figures dancing in
the top. And also just to clarify, by if you
go listen to the episode, you'll not we mean what
we mean, but by the stick figure, it's like the
the SLS camera that like tries to find human shapes
(14:18):
that you may not be able to see with your eyes,
it shows it to you and stick figure form. So
she sent a drawing of We were asking where she
saw the stick figure and she says, please excuse my
crew drawing of a stick figure on the picture, but
this is where I saw it. And so she has
a picture of the house which I think you'll you'll
love the picture itself.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Just just like sitting on the porch.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's like, yeah, it's on the corner of the wrap
around porch, just like on on kind of the uh
huh what you call that the wall?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, like the corner the railing the wall.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, like in between the pillar or like where
the roof of the porches. But look, how cute is
the picture in the snow? Yeah? Ow we house. I
thought that was sweet. I know I was gonna say
hell hello. She also sent she found a picture of
(15:18):
the Delaney House that shows the house before it was
moved and the bottom floor was added. Oh and it's
a really old picture and it's from Sinister Coffee and
Creamery their website, which I want to go there so bad.
It's in Portland, it's so cool. It's a black and
white photo. It's in tall grass. It looks really creepy. Okay,
(15:41):
And then Judy says, I think that's it for now.
You really should come down for one of the spirit galleries. Yeah,
she says, they're a lot of fun and I'm so down. Okay,
I haven't really read this yet, so I'm excited. Hi,
Caitlyn and Cassie. It's okay to use my first name
and my store if you want to. We want to.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And this one is titled real or Am I losing
my marbles?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I hope you're not losing your marbles? But wait, I
hope it's not real. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's me Clint from Canada. I hope both of you
are safe and healthy. I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, that's awesome. I love that you answered because you
knew we were gonna ask, right. Yeah, exactly, Hi Clinn
from Canada. It's not Clint's first time sending us a story,
and we love it. A little backstory.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
My son and I are couriers and we work from
eleven thirty pm to six am, six nights a week.
Day okay, but it just keeps going in all kinds
of weather, like six nights of six nights a week.
(16:56):
Do you get a day off? That's too many nights, Clint,
that's too many nights. I thought they were better to
you up there in the Great White.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
North, unless you know, unless you love it, if you
thrive on that. Well, actually that that schedule, so it's
a little bit less than like a typical full eight
hour shift scenario, but still six days a week. That's
just that's rough. Or nights.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Nights and nights are also really rough. Okay, also in
all kinds of weather. I love foggy nights on different streets.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
What he's saying is like, there's maybe treacherous weather and
you're like on roads that you make, so you're not
like used to all the roads all the time as well.
I'm getting from that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's what I'm gathering.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
We drive some parts together and talk about Halloween decorations.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's one thirty six am on Halloween night, well technically
November first Halloween to me, because my ass hasn't been
to bed yet.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Exactly, it's still Halloween. It's always Halloween in our hearts.
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
One of my customers decorates their house with six skeletons
climbing all over the house, cornstalks, hay bales, and one
very tall, cool looking grim reapero with a green light
up rib cage and skeleton face, as well as going
from the edge of the roof down to the grass
(18:39):
in front of their front door. They have a string
spider web with a couple black widow spiders on the web.
Oh my gosh, okay to go.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
All out, seriously, Canada went that hard for Halloween. Who knew?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Here's where the story gets weird or I'm seeing things? Okay,
So now to the marbles.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Marbles, see if you got them?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Right behind the web stands some kind of creature decoration
I have not seen before. It was about four maybe
five feet tall and standing straight up.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Was it, Caitlin?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Okay, this next part I'm gonna guess No, it's covered
in brown hair.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The head and.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Body are a big ball with a mouth in a
slight smile. I can only what it's covered in brown hair.
The head and body are a big ball with a
mouth in a slight smile. I could only see one
lifelike human blue eye because of where I was standing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So it's like face is just round with a smile,
and like it's.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's sounding like sort of an orb cyclops hair bigfoot
hybrid scenario.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm I'm picturing cousin it, Yes, but rounder and like
the eyes through the hair. I guess in like half
of it's in shadows. It's just seeing one eye. Do
you say that I was blue or did I make this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No, he said blue creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
M mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Okay, Oh my god, it doesn't get better.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It had skinny human legs and two giant spider legs
coming out of the top of the head.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Slash body. Oh why what I made? You read a
spider one? I'm so you bitch.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Sorry, don't know how to explain it. It's not a costume.
It looked realistic. My god, realistic giant spider leg This
is my nightmare.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, oh, it's fine, it's fine. I turned to walk away,
then turned back to get a pick because I wanted
to show my son. And let's face it, way too
cool looking. Clank, you fool, run for your life.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
But it's just a decoration.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's no.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He said it was realistic looking. I don't. It's not.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, but it was gone, so he doesn't have a
picture of it. No sound, nothing, just gone.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They started cleaning up really early.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I feel like it might not meet this specific criteria,
but I feel like maybe we need an amber alert.
Oh god, Okay, do you think it was an unknown cryptid?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I hope? So I want to see it again.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So many questions crypted alert or am I seeing things?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay? So do we think it was a kid dressed
up as something weird? Maybe a homemade costume? I still
out at one thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I feel like that's the answer that I'm most comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But why I'm trying to I'm trying to picture the costume.
The only thing I can think is like, it's a
homemade someone made a homemade costume. That's just fucking weird. Yeah,
but why yeah, why are they out at one thirty
working around in the shadows? Now? I feel like you
(22:53):
were like not even sure what word to go with there,
and I feel like we.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Just came up with a new one because I feel
like lurking. Yeah, yep, yes, lurking.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's like a.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Sneaky, sneakier, stealthier version of lurking.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like a slippery snake version.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm wondering if this is maybe a typo or if
this is like a regional thing. I'm gonna read this
and you tell me, Uh, I'm not sure. I'm not
sure how to interpret. Just like one little teeny part
of this, it says, on a brute note, we had
a deer running beside my car.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm going to bed now. But brute is like, you know, brutish,
like you know, high school jock bully. Is the image
that I conjure for brute. Look look up brute Canadian slang. Okay, yeah, no,
I'm finding nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Clant, you gotta tell us either way.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He says he's going to bed now at the end
of this story here, so maybe sleepiness, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe that could be it. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
That there's just a deer running beside his car.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I kind of wait. Okay, so I was like, what
does this mean? Is this it wasn't a deer or
was it a not deer, Clint? Because why is the
deer keeping up with your car? I don't know. That's
like one of the things is like they're really fast.
Oh was it a deer? Was it a not deer, Clint?
Maybe he did mean on a brute note, I'm very interested,
(24:37):
or if he meant like, on a good note, we
had a deer running next to the car, like but
he did say that that was great. Yeah, so like
maybe it was like a really magical they just like
saw a deer running with them and yeah, maybe it
didn't go in front of their car, so that's really good.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I mean yes.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Was it running on two legs? Clint?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Last sentence, still love your podcast?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Stay safe?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh okay, well it sounds like you're the one that
needs to say stay stay safe, Clint.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yes please? Okay, should we pull a little uh moon
oracle for Cleant? I like it. Okay, I'm gonna put
my mic down in shuffle because I still don't have
my stand cant one stole it from me and she
won't give it back.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Those accusations are ridiculous, ridiculous and erroneous, felonious one not
say Flacio somewhere. My husband just went, huh.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Every husband everywhere went okay, send Clint vibes.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Grab my orange selenite.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Tell me if you have any feelings.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know, I always gravitate towards the middle, like where
you're right ish handas.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, and yeah, okay, this is interesting. We got nature ooh,
which is like they're outside. Oh there's an owl. There
is an owl on it on it like a moon. Yeah,
it's on like a crescent moon with like a little
face just killed and it's like a snowy possibly foggy night.
(26:29):
It looks like it's foggy back there, so that's interesting
full moon.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
He did mention fog in.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like all kinds of weather at night. Night. Well, it's
a moon oracle decks. I think most of these cards
are at night, but still, you know what, we're counting it.
The nature moon Oracle card comes with a quote and
it says, in every walk with nature, one receives far
more than he seeks. Oh well, uh hello, yeah, I
(27:03):
mean here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
My reaction would have been, I don't want to see
it again, but Clint has said already he would like
to see it again.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So I need a drawing of what this looks like. Yes,
draw Clint. It doesn't have to be a good drawing.
I just want like something to do.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, my god, because if we draw it, I
don't know that it'll be a good drawing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Judy gave us a stick figure. Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Otherwise I'm just gonna have to feed this in into
like AI and be like, please show me this. You
know what I'm not gonna do that because I need
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
God, the blue eye freaks me out though. Yeah, okay,
the keywords are gifts, wonders home, return yourself back to nature,
unleash and detached from the electronic world, to reconnect with
the Earth and her offs for cryptid offerings. Oh, we
were saying you were working too much. I mean, you
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might not feel like it, but like that's kind of
what we were saying in the beginning, Like maybe you're
working too much.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
We're honestly all working too much.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Seriously. Yeah. Yeah, Heighten your senses and be in tune
with the infinite layers of the universe. Ooh that, like
it reminds me of the thing that cryptids are kind
of like interdimensional beings, and so maybe you're seeing like
different layers of the universe, different dimensions.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm on board with that.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Maybe that's why it disappeared so fast, because it was
just like a glimpse. Oh, explore the endless wonders of
this world, the lunar and solar eclipses, shooting stars, the
changing of the seasons, the transformation of a butterfly shedding
its cocoon, the air moving in and out of your lungs.
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Nice reminder to breathe the seas tie it's the moon's phases,
the food and healing herbs grown from the earth's soil.
Retreat back to your childhood and reminisce about how awe
inspiring nature and great outdoors was to you back then.
It kind of reminds me of hymnist Son talking about
like the Halloween decorations, capture and harness all of this
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magic once again, remember that you are one with Mother Nature.
Let yourself marvel at all her wondrous gifts. So maybe
it's saying like, don't be scared of this thing, Like
obviously you didn't seem scared of it, so it seems
like this card's kind of the right vibe.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I guess I just feel like, yeah, you didn't seem
like you were scared of it, and listen, I feel
as though that does that does concern me because my
visceral reaction was very much fear right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, I don't know how I would react in
that situation because I wasn't there, But I feel like
I probably would be more curious too, because that's just
like how I am. But who knows I could be.
I like terrify pee my pants and run away.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We don't know, That's what I'm picturing.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Mm hmm. Okay, So the intention feel the Earth's heartbeat,
tune into the ebb and flow of her energy, synchronize
yourself with Mother Nature's rhythms. You know what this reminds
me of too. They had a deer running next to
their cars like nature was like hanging out with them.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, very much like a natural world vibe to it.
Just very much like I'm out in nature y'all.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
See encryptids and seeing not deer.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
And unknown cryptids and all kinds of potential whatevers.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think that's so special though. And you see something
either an animal or maybe something you don't even know
what it is. Maybe it's a cryptid or maybe not.
But if you just like make that eye contact with
an animal, I just think that's so special for whatever
you then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, I am going to So here's the thing is.
I said that I needed to sleep and that I
wouldn't do this, but I did. So here we are,
and you have it. You have to sit in this
with me because here, here, here is what AI says
(31:27):
that Clint's creature potentially looks like.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, oh my Clint, oh my god. Uh huh. It's cute.
It's smiling. Look at that. Okay, oh cute, you guys.
If Ted Bundy had blue eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That eye, it's giving me Bundy vibes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, no, never Bundy. I like it. Smile. Yeah, okay,
we have to send this to plant. Yeah, you can
tell us if it's correct. I feel like it's odd
that it put the eye.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like kind of as if like the placement is such
that like if it were a human, like it would
be evenly space like the spatial like fluidity of it,
like it would have like the other eye, you can
see where that would be, but.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It didn't have more than one eye. Well, I think
he was saying he could only see the eye because
it was in shadow, like so I was picturing the
other eye was like kind of in shadow like Emo hair, Oh,
like kind of how it's showing in the picture, Like
that's what I was envisioning, like Emo bangs over the eye.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's interesting an interesting thought.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Certainly it's an Emo cryptid.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I feel like if there is such a thing as
an email cryptid, there is clearly some blame to be
laid at the feet of us as millennials, and I
for one, just want to begin my apology tour.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
For whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's like a train wreck. I can't stop looking at it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I want to see it in real life.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm going to close the tab because that is that
is upsetting.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, I have one more surprise for you. Oh boy.
We have another story that was texted to me and
it might be an ongoing saga, so we might get updates. Okay,
So my friend Michelle texted me this is something that
happened to my brother. So they're staying in the camper
at their parents' house and had an experience. Oh boy,
(33:55):
this is the text that they sent their sister. Yesterday
at three am, I alted awake for no reason. Then
this morning three am again, in my sleep, I saw
a face and they gently touched my face. No, and
I woke up and was wide awake.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Ugh, okay, three am.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I think it's witchy and cool. Yeah, some people think
it's spooky and demonic. Don't touch my face. That's where
it becomes spooky and demonic. But it seems like gently,
it was gentle. So it seems to me more of
like a guardian or like a spirit guide or ancestor.
(34:38):
So I think it's sweet. You think it's spooky, but
we have more information. So when Michelle's texting me, she
kind of like wanted my opinion right because you know,
I'm spooky Cassie. So everyone comes to me experts status.
The brother's name was Kyle, and he has lubooboos, so
they made me a hat for my Labuo boo you
(34:59):
may yes, And they made the Christmas tree yes, saying
I sent to the Christmas tree labooboo outfit. Hell yeah.
My response is it's the la Boo boos ridiculous. But
then I was like, no, I'm just kidding, but seriously,
because we've if you listen to our episode about Laboo
Boo's we you think that they're not demonic and they're
(35:21):
just fine. No. Uh But I said no, seriously though,
that sounds like something paranormal to me obviously, And I
kind of said what I just had said, I don't
think it's necessarily maybe a ghost, but like I was
curious if he felt if they felt scared, yeah, because
the gentle touch thing to me just sounds nice. It
doesn't sound scary. Michelle asked her brother and they said
(35:45):
they didn't feel scared. Michelle got chilled when they told
her the story.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah that's the appropriate response, like I'm not scared.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I didn't mean scared, but like chill, chill, Yeah, spooky
unsettling mebe yeah, like two scary. I don't know. Like
the heabs are jeeped, The heabes were jeepan, the hackles
are up. They said they didn't feel scared or anything.
But I definitely am going to need updates because I
want to know it. This is it continuing. I think
it's like a protecting thing. Okay, three am is so
(36:17):
interesting though, Like I think it's witchy.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean that part cool potentially. Yeah, I just don't
touch my face.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You've woken up at three am before? Right? Or was
it three thirty three?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It was three thirty three on my thirty third birthday.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's so cool. I mean not
the dream you had. But no, it was kind of
a bummer. Yeah that was not a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, I was like, I guess happy birthday to me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Woo, Like.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It kind of had a similar vibe to like, you know,
because it's from the holiday movie, uh, you know, Merry Christmas.
You filthy animals like that was kind of it was
giving that. That's the energy it was serving.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yep, I can see that. I think we should pull
a card for Kyle. Okay. I'm feeling like I want
to see what comes up, you know, like maybe it'll
answer some questions. Let's do it, or maybe it's just
something in general that they need to know right now.
Give me Kyle energy, big Kyle energy. Oh we got
(37:28):
fairy tale.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Maybe it's a fairy.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
What if it's a fairy?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
One of the thing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I love that. Okay, I'll get the interpretation. This card
has a witch on it and the moon's like purply yeah,
like purply flowers in the forest. It doesn't necessarily look
like nighttime, but you know, the moon's out, so it's
got the moon glow. You know.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That honestly looks like like more early morning vibe, you know,
like three am.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I love it. I didn't even like think of a fairy.
That's kind of crazy. It also goes with the la booboos.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I feel like, I think, so I can't believe you
didn't think of a fairy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I know, I mean, I don't know. I don't think
of a fairy when they said, like the hand touched
the face. I don't know, was it like a little
hand or I guess fairies could have normal size hands.
They could.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, tiny little bodies and huge hands.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Ooh, this is interesting. Dreams come true. Without that possibility,
nature would not incide us to have them. I like that.
So this was like a dream that they had. Yeah,
what's it like? What? Who's gonna come touch your face? Kyle? Ooh,
(38:51):
that's interesting. Okay, Yeah. The keywords are sparkle, dream, fly.
Kind of sounds like a fairy Create and live your
own fairy tale by following your dreams. Flip down into
the rabbit hole of enchantment and wonder. Imagine something so
grand that it makes you bubble over with gleeful excitement.
(39:12):
Dream the impossible and draw joy into your life. Let
the goodness and lighthearted energy fill your heart with awe
inspired visions. Live in that moment for a spell as
you soak in the glory, become lost in the star
dust and moon glow as it whirls around you. The
imagery is just so pretty. It is, It's like so dreamy.
(39:35):
Be the author of your own story. Make each moment
an experience. Unforgettable. Write the pages and chapters in which
your soul deserves to have a happily ever after. Oh
I love that. See I think this total vibes of
like what I was getting from, Like everything is gonna
be okay, like hand, I like it. And it could
(39:58):
be just like a metad what a forlorical hand touching
your face. It doesn't have to be natural hand.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, we'd prefer that it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
But I think that's just like gentle and sweet and
like and everything's gonna be okay type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I mean, I'm hoping so.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The intention says, look for glitter, sparkle and shimmering moondust.
Create your own magical once upon a time story. I
love that. I love that it was talking about dreams
so much too, Like hello, I know that totally fit.
It really did. Well. That's all the surprises I have
(40:36):
for you, excellent. No more scary spooky stories this time,
unless you guys send them in. I want spooky la
boo boo stories, come on, y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Or Crampis.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You know I just watched the movie Crampis the other day,
did you. Yeah? It was weird. It's good. Yeah, it's Okay,
it's something. Okay, you know what I wanted more crampis.
Oh it didn't have enough campis.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
It's very crampus light.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, which I liked the movie overall. It was enjoyable
and yeah, you know, kind of a funny scary movie.
Get that. But yeah, I needed more crampus. I need
more tongue, you know, creepy tongue.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, should we get out of here, say goodbye for
this week. Let's do that, bin, have a creepy ass day.
We'll see you next Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. Yeah, I remember,
(41:44):
I give myself the ick, you know, I get that.
Right behind the web stand some kind of creature decoration
I have not seen before. It was about four maybe
five feet tall and standing straight up?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Was it, Caitlyn?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, this next part, I'm gonna guess No. It is
covered in brown hair. The head and body are a
big ball with a mouth in a slight smile. Okay,
only what.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hi, Caitlin, Hi Cassie. You like how I waited until
you were taking a drink of your wine to say
hi to you? Yes, but always so demure. Yes. I
made it a quick sip and just kept on rocking
and rolling' I saw it in your eyes. You saw
me take the breath in, and you're like, she is
(01:00):
gonna fucking I know, start right now while I'm sipping.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I knew it. I knew what was coming.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hi people, Creepy People. This is PNW Hanson Homicides, where
we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and all things
spooky in the Pacific Northwest, oh. We also do a
tarot reading at the end. Besides getting off track, we
do a terroot reading at the end of every episode
for a little deeper insight into our topic. In our
Creepy People Chronicles, episode episodes because there's not just one,
(01:29):
there's multiple. Those are stories that you've emailed us, that
you've told us in person, that you've sent your voice
even sometimes like we were just talking about, like voice recording,
and then we play it. Oh yeah, and then we
do a Tarot read or usually an oracle reading for
you individually, so you get your own little reading for free. Man.
(01:51):
I love it. I mean for free in exchange for
us reading your story. You know. Yeah, Okay, So today
is a Creepy People chronicles and we have some up
for you, some new stories. But first I want to
remind everyone about the kickstarter that we just talked about
a few episodes ago. It was called Beyond the Cards,
(02:11):
Art Taro and Liminal Spaces. Love it where we talked
to David of Whiskey Tara Foxtrot and can everyone give
me a round of applause for saying it right? Because
I said it wrong twice in the episode. I could
not get my shit together. Thank you David for just
being there to support me and just saying it for
(02:32):
me because I was a terrible hostess. I felt like,
So David is hand drawing. It's called the Liminal Deck
and it's really cool, and I want one. We have
donated to the kickstarter, so we get a tarot deck
of our very own, So everyone go donate so that
we could have one, like selfishly.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I sent a little note via the Patreon app
for one of our new subscribers.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
We've got a new subscriber at Hi ten doll hairs.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I'm not a thousand percent sure on the pronunciation,
but I believe it is a lae Ooh I love that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, pronounced it wrong. We'll shout you out again.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, but I'm going to be putting their card out
in the mail. Normally they go out like within forty
eight hours, and the turnaround with the holiday is a
little bit on the slower side, right, So sorry.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Same to Judy. I mean, you're I still haven't sent
your card, but you know what it's coming. And we
both signed it.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Oh, I was gonna say, didn't I sign Judy's card.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm trying. I'm trying so hard. Okay, let's talk about you.
Let's do it. Let's do it, Judy. It's all about you, Bye, Baty.
See do you remember we were talking about how do
you remember the farm nanny we were talking about and
then she ended up like marrying him later, yes, actually
(04:00):
with her shitty ex at the time. Yeah, Ill, I
was like making a little like, oh it was it
was like Princess Bride and on the farm, and he
was like, as you wish. But I didn't mean to
imply that there was any.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like, oh shenanigans.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah. I wasn't implying there was any shenanigans or I
wasn't trying to. It may have sounded like it, but
I think it was just kind of that like building
that love and friendship and like, yeah, you know, I'll
do this for you. I'll do that for you, like
building trust. So that's what she meant by that. She
did confirm they were just friends at the time. And
then do you remember that they had a really big
(04:37):
house fire? And she kind of just mentioned, oh, we
had this fire, and then like moved on and we
were like, wait, hold on, yeah, I do remember that
your entire house burned down. So we have follow up questions,
we do, and we have we have more to the
story about the fire. So she says the house burned
down in May May twenty fifth one, which was oh
(05:01):
my gosh, so long ago. I was like in middle school.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
I don't even think I was born yet.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right at the time, it was her ex husband and herself,
her son, roommate, and her nephew. And she said her
nephew was basically an adult, so don't think that she
was taking care of yet another child. Oh yeah, there
was a few kids in that house, oh boy, and
her roommate's kid wasn't there at the time, so that's okay.
(05:29):
It was a school day and my son had a
doctor's appointment up at Ohsu. So we were sleeping in.
My husband, who always overreacted to everything husbands and why
are men, came running into the bedroom saying the house
was on fire.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, I mean that's I'll allow it, although I will
say there is something that's a little bit frustrating about
people that like are just always overlaid, dramatic.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's like the boy who Cried Wolf. It's that story
is around for a reason because happened.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, I think like it's important, like get your shit
together when it's really serious. I don't know, just saying.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So he came running in and said the house was
on fire, She says, I guess he was being nice
this day because he also informed everybody else, which is like,
damn want any other day, Like he wouldn't have told
you guys the house was burning down. Hella, you're not
together anymore. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I was gonna say, we have like the benefit of hindsight,
and we know that, like we're like, listen, we already
know we don't like this character.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right exactly. Uh, knowing that my husband just overreacted to
literally everything, we all just rolled back over and went
back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Okay, So literally that's the problem with crying woolf.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
He came in a second time and I got up
to see what was going on. Yep, the house was
on fire, and my wonderful husband took my shoes from
took my shoes from right by the door and ran
outside with them. I carried them or did he put
them on his own feet? Either way, that's not nice,
not cool. Well, it gets worse because she says, as
(07:09):
I'm attempting to put out the fire, which is like,
so she's attempting to put out the fire and he's
just running away with her shoes on.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It's not funny, but it is funny because it's like,
you know, people respond to fear in strange play I've
just yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I don't. I'm glad that he managed to wake them
up and like came back and made sure they were
I'm just going to focus on that part, so she says.
As I'm attempting to put out the fire, which was
a huge failure, and making sure everybody was out, I
realized that I didn't have shoes, because you know, you're
(07:48):
busy and you're not thinking about your feet.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You're a busy business lady who is doing things about
the farm, and you don't have no time for shoes.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Putting out fires, saving people. I ran back past the
fire to grab myself a pair of shoes. Oh my god,
and saw my cat. I was able to get the
cat that was even closer to the fire than I was. Unfortunately,
my little fire belly toads, my fish, and my son's
(08:20):
hamster didn't make it. I'm sorry, Judy. I know they're
just like people would be like, oh, they're just like
toads and fish and a hamster.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But I mean, honestly, it's impressive that a hamster lives
for more than six months in any household. So yeah,
you know, maybe hang your hat on that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But that's awful, I know, on the toads I, okay,
so now I have I'm torn because I'm glad he
took her shoes because if she didn't need to run back,
which I know, you're like, you're you're not really thinking,
but like, oh my god, Judy ran back into the
fire to get your shoes. But obviously it was so
she would see the cat, you know. Yeah, so there
(09:03):
was more to it than that. Yeah, I feel like
it all happened for a reason, for a reason in
the cat. So Judy goes on to say it was
just a mess trying to even get the fire trucks
there to put out the fire. The house was a
total loss. The next year, we found out that the
fire department was wanting volunteers, so the roommate, the husband,
(09:25):
and I all volunteered. When the kiddo got old enough,
they volunteered as well. Oh it says Hebby and I
have now retired after putting in twenty years as volunteer firefighters. God,
I said that weird, but you know, because I'm like,
oh my gosh, that's amazing that you had this tragedy
of a fire in your house. And then you're like, well,
(09:46):
what am I going to do with that, I'm going
to go help fight fires.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, and I don't know, like what logistically was the
issue with getting the fire trucks out to them if
it were like, you know, they were just because.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
They were on a farm. So I don't know, like
maybe it was just, Yeah, it can be difficult, like
you hear nine one one calls where it's like people are.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, ems workers, firefighters, police, whatever, They're struggling to
find the location of the person that needs their services.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It could be that or I mean I don't have
enough or yeah, I mean but you know, yeah, that's
really cool. I love that. I love that. Judy, Okay,
so do you want to know about the bee and
the owl on the card? Yes? What I took away
from this was why why was the bee out when
(10:36):
it really should be hunkered down at home? Which is
kind of what we were saying, like why is be
out at night? Why am I always out when I
should be at home with my ex? I would always
stay at work late. It wasn't until I got him
out of the house that I realized what I was doing. Oh, Like,
obviously you didn't want to be home with someone who's toxic, right,
(10:57):
so you're right, trying to be that big and like stay.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Out right well, and you're trying to do something that
feels like you can legitimize it right, like you know,
staying late at work or something like that, as opposed
to like staying late at.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Or right, or like going out with your friends or
like hanging out a bar or something like. Yeah, no
judgment if that's what you do, because I mean I
do that shit too, but like that's what you're saying.
She was just staying at work and being like a
busy bee to stay away. But even now I help
with the Nightmare Factory and do a couple other nonprofit
things as well. I stay incredibly busy and maybe should
(11:40):
be at home more. Everyone tells me I should rest, Judy.
We understand, yeah, and I understand like it maybe now
it's not that you're trying to like stay away from
home because you have what sounds like a wonderful husband now, yeah,
but it's kind of maybe just you're used to that.
That's what you've always done, so.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It can be really hard to give yourself permission to rest.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We were just talking about that and I was like, Caitlin,
do I need to come and slap you, and she said, actually,
I need to rest, so I'd rather not. Yeah, I
don't want to work that hard, but she says, meanwhile, Gabe,
her husband now, is what you would call a night owl.
He will stay up until three in the morning on
most days. So like he's the night owl, she's the
(12:28):
busy bee. I love it. She really connected to the
card we pulled for her. And you know something really weird.
I tend to just wear black. Black is my happy color.
I get it. That's me, Cassie saying, I get it.
I get it. I'm wearing all black right now. But
(12:50):
I found this shirt that just basically dropped in my
lap and it felt like I just had to have it.
It has bees all over it, and she sent a
pick Wow, isn't that crazy? How like we're just so
confused about the bee, Like why is this bee on
this card? We don't really understand it, and like she
just has this new be shirt that she just had
(13:11):
to have. It's it all connects. It's crazy. I love it.
So she also sent us a story about the Delaney House,
which we read on the last episode, but we had
some questions. Yeah, I was like another one I'm not
another one, but it says so we were asking if
Vicky owned the house when she saw she saw a
stick figure there out on the porch. Oh, and yes
(13:33):
she did, so she was friends with Vicky, they she
owned the house while they were there. I've also seen
one a stick figure one in the bathtub upstairs a
couple of times. And when I was there with VICKI upstairs,
she was telling me people like would see stick figures
dancing in the tub. And I don't remember if that
(13:55):
made it into our actual interview because we were just upstairs,
like getting a tour of the house. I don't remember
if made it into the interview, but I thought that
was pretty cool. So I'm like, Judy is one of
the people who have seen the stick figures dancing in
the top. And also just to clarify, by if you
go listen to the episode, you'll not we mean what
we mean, but by the stick figure, it's like the
the SLS camera that like tries to find human shapes
(14:18):
that you may not be able to see with your eyes,
it shows it to you and stick figure form. So
she sent a drawing of We were asking where she
saw the stick figure and she says, please excuse my
crew drawing of a stick figure on the picture, but
this is where I saw it. And so she has
a picture of the house which I think you'll you'll
love the picture itself.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Just just like sitting on the porch.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
It's like, yeah, it's on the corner of the wrap
around porch, just like on on kind of the uh
huh what you call that the wall?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, like the corner the railing the wall.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, like in between the pillar or like where
the roof of the porches. But look, how cute is
the picture in the snow? Yeah? Ow we house. I
thought that was sweet. I know I was gonna say
hell hello. She also sent she found a picture of
(15:18):
the Delaney House that shows the house before it was
moved and the bottom floor was added. Oh and it's
a really old picture and it's from Sinister Coffee and
Creamery their website, which I want to go there so bad.
It's in Portland, it's so cool. It's a black and
white photo. It's in tall grass. It looks really creepy. Okay,
(15:41):
And then Judy says, I think that's it for now.
You really should come down for one of the spirit galleries. Yeah,
she says, they're a lot of fun and I'm so down. Okay,
I haven't really read this yet, so I'm excited. Hi,
Caitlyn and Cassie. It's okay to use my first name
and my store if you want to. We want to.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
And this one is titled real or Am I losing
my marbles?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I hope you're not losing your marbles? But wait, I
hope it's not real. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's me Clint from Canada. I hope both of you
are safe and healthy. I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay, that's awesome. I love that you answered because you
knew we were gonna ask, right. Yeah, exactly, Hi Clinn
from Canada. It's not Clint's first time sending us a story,
and we love it. A little backstory.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
My son and I are couriers and we work from
eleven thirty pm to six am, six nights a week.
Day okay, but it just keeps going in all kinds
of weather, like six nights of six nights a week.
(16:56):
Do you get a day off? That's too many nights, Clint,
that's too many nights. I thought they were better to
you up there in the Great White.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
North, unless you know, unless you love it, if you
thrive on that. Well, actually that that schedule, so it's
a little bit less than like a typical full eight
hour shift scenario, but still six days a week. That's
just that's rough. Or nights.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Nights and nights are also really rough. Okay, also in
all kinds of weather. I love foggy nights on different streets.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
What he's saying is like, there's maybe treacherous weather and
you're like on roads that you make, so you're not
like used to all the roads all the time as well.
I'm getting from that.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's what I'm gathering.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
We drive some parts together and talk about Halloween decorations.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It's one thirty six am on Halloween night, well technically
November first Halloween to me, because my ass hasn't been
to bed yet.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Exactly, it's still Halloween. It's always Halloween in our hearts.
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
One of my customers decorates their house with six skeletons
climbing all over the house, cornstalks, hay bales, and one
very tall, cool looking grim reapero with a green light
up rib cage and skeleton face, as well as going
from the edge of the roof down to the grass
(18:39):
in front of their front door. They have a string
spider web with a couple black widow spiders on the web.
Oh my gosh, okay to go.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
All out, seriously, Canada went that hard for Halloween. Who knew?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Here's where the story gets weird or I'm seeing things? Okay,
So now to the marbles.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Marbles, see if you got them?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Right behind the web stands some kind of creature decoration
I have not seen before. It was about four maybe
five feet tall and standing straight up.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Was it, Caitlin?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Okay, this next part I'm gonna guess No, it's covered
in brown hair.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
The head and.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Body are a big ball with a mouth in a
slight smile. I can only what it's covered in brown hair.
The head and body are a big ball with a
mouth in a slight smile. I could only see one
lifelike human blue eye because of where I was standing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So it's like face is just round with a smile,
and like it's.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
It's sounding like sort of an orb cyclops hair bigfoot
hybrid scenario.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm I'm picturing cousin it, Yes, but rounder and like
the eyes through the hair. I guess in like half
of it's in shadows. It's just seeing one eye. Do
you say that I was blue or did I make this? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No, he said blue creepy.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
M mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Okay, Oh my god, it doesn't get better.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It had skinny human legs and two giant spider legs
coming out of the top of the head.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Slash body. Oh why what I made? You read a
spider one? I'm so you bitch.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Sorry, don't know how to explain it. It's not a costume.
It looked realistic. My god, realistic giant spider leg This
is my nightmare.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Okay, oh, it's fine, it's fine. I turned to walk away,
then turned back to get a pick because I wanted
to show my son. And let's face it, way too
cool looking. Clank, you fool, run for your life.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
But it's just a decoration.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's no.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
He said it was realistic looking. I don't. It's not.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Okay, but it was gone, so he doesn't have a
picture of it. No sound, nothing, just gone.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
They started cleaning up really early.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I feel like it might not meet this specific criteria,
but I feel like maybe we need an amber alert.
Oh god, Okay, do you think it was an unknown cryptid?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I hope? So I want to see it again.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
So many questions crypted alert or am I seeing things?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay? So do we think it was a kid dressed
up as something weird? Maybe a homemade costume? I still
out at one thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I feel like that's the answer that I'm most comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
But why I'm trying to I'm trying to picture the costume.
The only thing I can think is like, it's a
homemade someone made a homemade costume. That's just fucking weird. Yeah,
but why yeah, why are they out at one thirty
working around in the shadows? Now? I feel like you
(22:53):
were like not even sure what word to go with there,
and I feel like we.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Just came up with a new one because I feel
like lurking. Yeah, yep, yes, lurking.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's like a.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Sneaky, sneakier, stealthier version of lurking.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Like a slippery snake version.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm wondering if this is maybe a typo or if
this is like a regional thing. I'm gonna read this
and you tell me, Uh, I'm not sure. I'm not
sure how to interpret. Just like one little teeny part
of this, it says, on a brute note, we had
a deer running beside my car.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I'm going to bed now. But brute is like, you know, brutish,
like you know, high school jock bully. Is the image
that I conjure for brute. Look look up brute Canadian slang. Okay, yeah, no,
I'm finding nothing.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Clant, you gotta tell us either way.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
He says he's going to bed now at the end
of this story here, so maybe sleepiness, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe that could be it. Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
That there's just a deer running beside his car.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
I kind of wait. Okay, so I was like, what
does this mean? Is this it wasn't a deer or
was it a not deer, Clint? Because why is the
deer keeping up with your car? I don't know. That's
like one of the things is like they're really fast.
Oh was it a deer? Was it a not deer, Clint?
Maybe he did mean on a brute note, I'm very interested,
(24:37):
or if he meant like, on a good note, we
had a deer running next to the car, like but
he did say that that was great. Yeah, so like
maybe it was like a really magical they just like
saw a deer running with them and yeah, maybe it
didn't go in front of their car, so that's really good.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, I mean yes.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Was it running on two legs? Clint?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Last sentence, still love your podcast?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Stay safe?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh okay, well it sounds like you're the one that
needs to say stay stay safe, Clint.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yes please? Okay, should we pull a little uh moon
oracle for Cleant? I like it. Okay, I'm gonna put
my mic down in shuffle because I still don't have
my stand cant one stole it from me and she
won't give it back.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Those accusations are ridiculous, ridiculous and erroneous, felonious one not
say Flacio somewhere. My husband just went, huh.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Every husband everywhere went okay, send Clint vibes.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Grab my orange selenite.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Tell me if you have any feelings.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You know, I always gravitate towards the middle, like where
you're right ish handas.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, and yeah, okay, this is interesting. We got nature ooh,
which is like they're outside. Oh there's an owl. There
is an owl on it on it like a moon. Yeah,
it's on like a crescent moon with like a little
face just killed and it's like a snowy possibly foggy night.
(26:29):
It looks like it's foggy back there, so that's interesting
full moon.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
He did mention fog in.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Like all kinds of weather at night. Night. Well, it's
a moon oracle decks. I think most of these cards
are at night, but still, you know what, we're counting it.
The nature moon Oracle card comes with a quote and
it says, in every walk with nature, one receives far
more than he seeks. Oh well, uh hello, yeah, I
(27:03):
mean here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
My reaction would have been, I don't want to see
it again, but Clint has said already he would like
to see it again.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
So I need a drawing of what this looks like. Yes,
draw Clint. It doesn't have to be a good drawing.
I just want like something to do.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I mean, my god, because if we draw it, I
don't know that it'll be a good drawing.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Judy gave us a stick figure. Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Otherwise I'm just gonna have to feed this in into
like AI and be like, please show me this. You
know what I'm not gonna do that because I need
to sleep.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
God, the blue eye freaks me out though. Yeah, okay,
the keywords are gifts, wonders home, return yourself back to nature,
unleash and detached from the electronic world, to reconnect with
the Earth and her offs for cryptid offerings. Oh, we
were saying you were working too much. I mean, you
(28:05):
might not feel like it, but like that's kind of
what we were saying in the beginning, Like maybe you're
working too much.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
We're honestly all working too much.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Seriously. Yeah. Yeah, Heighten your senses and be in tune
with the infinite layers of the universe. Ooh that, like
it reminds me of the thing that cryptids are kind
of like interdimensional beings, and so maybe you're seeing like
different layers of the universe, different dimensions.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm on board with that.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Maybe that's why it disappeared so fast, because it was
just like a glimpse. Oh, explore the endless wonders of
this world, the lunar and solar eclipses, shooting stars, the
changing of the seasons, the transformation of a butterfly shedding
its cocoon, the air moving in and out of your lungs.
(28:56):
Nice reminder to breathe the seas tie it's the moon's phases,
the food and healing herbs grown from the earth's soil.
Retreat back to your childhood and reminisce about how awe
inspiring nature and great outdoors was to you back then.
It kind of reminds me of hymnist Son talking about
like the Halloween decorations, capture and harness all of this
(29:19):
magic once again, remember that you are one with Mother Nature.
Let yourself marvel at all her wondrous gifts. So maybe
it's saying like, don't be scared of this thing, Like
obviously you didn't seem scared of it, so it seems
like this card's kind of the right vibe.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I guess I just feel like, yeah, you didn't seem
like you were scared of it, and listen, I feel
as though that does that does concern me because my
visceral reaction was very much fear right.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, I don't know how I would react in
that situation because I wasn't there, But I feel like
I probably would be more curious too, because that's just
like how I am. But who knows I could be.
I like terrify pee my pants and run away.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
We don't know, That's what I'm picturing.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Mm hmm. Okay, So the intention feel the Earth's heartbeat,
tune into the ebb and flow of her energy, synchronize
yourself with Mother Nature's rhythms. You know what this reminds
me of too. They had a deer running next to
their cars like nature was like hanging out with them.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah, very much like a natural world vibe to it.
Just very much like I'm out in nature y'all.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
See encryptids and seeing not deer.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
And unknown cryptids and all kinds of potential whatevers.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
I think that's so special though. And you see something
either an animal or maybe something you don't even know
what it is. Maybe it's a cryptid or maybe not.
But if you just like make that eye contact with
an animal, I just think that's so special for whatever
you then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Okay, I am going to So here's the thing is.
I said that I needed to sleep and that I
wouldn't do this, but I did. So here we are,
and you have it. You have to sit in this
with me because here, here, here is what AI says
(31:27):
that Clint's creature potentially looks like.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Okay, oh my Clint, oh my god. Uh huh. It's cute.
It's smiling. Look at that. Okay, oh cute, you guys.
If Ted Bundy had blue eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
That eye, it's giving me Bundy vibes.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, no, never Bundy. I like it. Smile. Yeah, okay,
we have to send this to plant. Yeah, you can
tell us if it's correct. I feel like it's odd
that it put the eye.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like kind of as if like the placement is such
that like if it were a human, like it would
be evenly space like the spatial like fluidity of it,
like it would have like the other eye, you can
see where that would be, but.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
It didn't have more than one eye. Well, I think
he was saying he could only see the eye because
it was in shadow, like so I was picturing the
other eye was like kind of in shadow like Emo hair, Oh,
like kind of how it's showing in the picture, Like
that's what I was envisioning, like Emo bangs over the eye.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
That's interesting an interesting thought.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Certainly it's an Emo cryptid.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I feel like if there is such a thing as
an email cryptid, there is clearly some blame to be
laid at the feet of us as millennials, and I
for one, just want to begin my apology tour.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
For whatever this is.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's like a train wreck. I can't stop looking at it.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I want to see it in real life.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm going to close the tab because that is that
is upsetting.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, I have one more surprise for you. Oh boy.
We have another story that was texted to me and
it might be an ongoing saga, so we might get updates. Okay,
So my friend Michelle texted me this is something that
happened to my brother. So they're staying in the camper
at their parents' house and had an experience. Oh boy,
(33:55):
this is the text that they sent their sister. Yesterday
at three am, I alted awake for no reason. Then
this morning three am again, in my sleep, I saw
a face and they gently touched my face. No, and
I woke up and was wide awake.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Ugh, okay, three am.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I think it's witchy and cool. Yeah, some people think
it's spooky and demonic. Don't touch my face. That's where
it becomes spooky and demonic. But it seems like gently,
it was gentle. So it seems to me more of
like a guardian or like a spirit guide or ancestor.
(34:38):
So I think it's sweet. You think it's spooky, but
we have more information. So when Michelle's texting me, she
kind of like wanted my opinion right because you know,
I'm spooky Cassie. So everyone comes to me experts status.
The brother's name was Kyle, and he has lubooboos, so
they made me a hat for my Labuo boo you
(34:59):
may yes, And they made the Christmas tree yes, saying
I sent to the Christmas tree labooboo outfit. Hell yeah.
My response is it's the la Boo boos ridiculous. But
then I was like, no, I'm just kidding, but seriously,
because we've if you listen to our episode about Laboo
Boo's we you think that they're not demonic and they're
(35:21):
just fine. No. Uh But I said no, seriously though,
that sounds like something paranormal to me obviously, And I
kind of said what I just had said, I don't
think it's necessarily maybe a ghost, but like I was
curious if he felt if they felt scared, yeah, because
the gentle touch thing to me just sounds nice. It
doesn't sound scary. Michelle asked her brother and they said
(35:45):
they didn't feel scared. Michelle got chilled when they told
her the story.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah that's the appropriate response, like I'm not scared.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I didn't mean scared, but like chill, chill, Yeah, spooky
unsettling mebe yeah, like two scary. I don't know. Like
the heabs are jeeped, The heabes were jeepan, the hackles
are up. They said they didn't feel scared or anything.
But I definitely am going to need updates because I
want to know it. This is it continuing. I think
it's like a protecting thing. Okay, three am is so
(36:17):
interesting though, Like I think it's witchy.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
I mean that part cool potentially. Yeah, I just don't
touch my face.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You've woken up at three am before? Right? Or was
it three thirty three?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
It was three thirty three on my thirty third birthday.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's so cool. I mean not
the dream you had. But no, it was kind of
a bummer. Yeah that was not a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
No, I was like, I guess happy birthday to me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Woo, Like.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It kind of had a similar vibe to like, you know,
because it's from the holiday movie, uh, you know, Merry Christmas.
You filthy animals like that was kind of it was
giving that. That's the energy it was serving.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yep, I can see that. I think we should pull
a card for Kyle. Okay. I'm feeling like I want
to see what comes up, you know, like maybe it'll
answer some questions. Let's do it, or maybe it's just
something in general that they need to know right now.
Give me Kyle energy, big Kyle energy. Oh we got
(37:28):
fairy tale.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Maybe it's a fairy.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
What if it's a fairy?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
One of the thing.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I love that. Okay, I'll get the interpretation. This card
has a witch on it and the moon's like purply yeah,
like purply flowers in the forest. It doesn't necessarily look
like nighttime, but you know, the moon's out, so it's
got the moon glow. You know.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
That honestly looks like like more early morning vibe, you know,
like three am.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I love it. I didn't even like think of a fairy.
That's kind of crazy. It also goes with the la booboos.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I feel like, I think, so I can't believe you
didn't think of a fairy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I know, I mean, I don't know. I don't think
of a fairy when they said, like the hand touched
the face. I don't know, was it like a little
hand or I guess fairies could have normal size hands.
They could.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, tiny little bodies and huge hands.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Ooh, this is interesting. Dreams come true. Without that possibility,
nature would not incide us to have them. I like that.
So this was like a dream that they had. Yeah,
what's it like? What? Who's gonna come touch your face? Kyle? Ooh,
(38:51):
that's interesting. Okay, Yeah. The keywords are sparkle, dream, fly.
Kind of sounds like a fairy Create and live your
own fairy tale by following your dreams. Flip down into
the rabbit hole of enchantment and wonder. Imagine something so
grand that it makes you bubble over with gleeful excitement.
(39:12):
Dream the impossible and draw joy into your life. Let
the goodness and lighthearted energy fill your heart with awe
inspired visions. Live in that moment for a spell as
you soak in the glory, become lost in the star
dust and moon glow as it whirls around you. The
imagery is just so pretty. It is, It's like so dreamy.
(39:35):
Be the author of your own story. Make each moment
an experience. Unforgettable. Write the pages and chapters in which
your soul deserves to have a happily ever after. Oh
I love that. See I think this total vibes of
like what I was getting from, Like everything is gonna
be okay, like hand, I like it. And it could
(39:58):
be just like a metad what a forlorical hand touching
your face. It doesn't have to be natural hand.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, we'd prefer that it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
But I think that's just like gentle and sweet and
like and everything's gonna be okay type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I mean, I'm hoping so.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
The intention says, look for glitter, sparkle and shimmering moondust.
Create your own magical once upon a time story. I
love that. I love that it was talking about dreams
so much too, Like hello, I know that totally fit.
It really did. Well. That's all the surprises I have
(40:36):
for you, excellent. No more scary spooky stories this time,
unless you guys send them in. I want spooky la
boo boo stories, come on, y'all.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Or Crampis.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
You know I just watched the movie Crampis the other day,
did you. Yeah? It was weird. It's good. Yeah, it's Okay,
it's something. Okay, you know what I wanted more crampis.
Oh it didn't have enough campis.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
It's very crampus light.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, which I liked the movie overall. It was enjoyable
and yeah, you know, kind of a funny scary movie.
Get that. But yeah, I needed more crampus. I need
more tongue, you know, creepy tongue.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
No, thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Well, should we get out of here, say goodbye for
this week. Let's do that, bin, have a creepy ass day.
We'll see you next Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. Yeah, I remember,
(41:44):
I give myself the ick, you know, I get that.
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
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