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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But she's not going to be there to chase out demons.
So if we find ourselves in trouble.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, I don't want to deal with demons.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
You'll have to be very intense and be like, no
one is allowed to follow me home, Do not attach
yourself to me, don't show yourself to me.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No, Cassie's coming. Cassie will be on side.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, what's it called when some of the expels demons?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Isn't it like an excellent.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Actual exorcist?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Like goodness? Why doesn't feel like she just got a promotion?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Save us?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hi, Caitlin, Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Hello. If you're
new to our creepy corner of the world, this is
which Also, if you're new, you're kind of late. You're
like four years late, but a little bit. Yeah, but
this is PNW Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime,
the paranormal, and things spooky in the Pacific Northwest. It's
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the BNW. If you're nasty, If you're nasty, leg if
you're nasty. If you're not nasty, you should probably like
there's like a little square on your player you should
probably just hit that send it to someone who you
know is nasty. There you go, yeah, yeah, I'm like
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totally blanking on your shirt. What's his name? David? Yeah? Right,
you David. I was like, if you're nasty, like da bad.
But for some reason I couldn't think of the name.
I don't know. Maybe waking and baking wasn't the best idea,
but that's fine.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, listen, we've already talked about offline my experience with
trying to induce herbal remedies for sleep.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Of not unspecified herbal remedies.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Holy man, this is you know, you gotta be careful
when you dabble, because I'm a dabbler and it's been
a while since I dabbled.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And wow, she dabbled. Hord dabbled real hoard. Well anyway, Oh,
we do like a tarot reading at the end of
every episode, and sometimes an oracle card reading, which I
feel like today is I brought my moon oracle deck
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and we might be using it, you know, a couple
of times. Oh possibly thrice. We don't know. I've used
the word thrice twice today. I need to do it
one more ticket so I could say I use the
word price thrice today. I just did it. Okay, there
you go, and that's a wrap. Have a creepy ass day, everybody. Okay, bye,
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see you next Tuesday. Four minutes. So we're doing a
Creepy People Chronicles today, which we haven't done one in
a while. And do you guys know why? Because you're
not emailing us, you're stories to read. So so if
you want to email us your story, you're pretty much
guaranteed to be in a Greevy Chronicles unless it's like
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the lamest dumbest story ever. But you guys would never
write us a lame dumb story. So no, what happened
pnw Hanson Homicides at gmail dot com. We have a
couple of things saved up for the Creepy People Chronicles.
We have a story that I told in this house.
Do you remember that I told a story and I
was like, I happened in this house and then I'm
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back in this house. Oh so I wanted to do
a moon Oracle read for that since I'm back here,
it just felt like because we didn't do a reading
for it, we just told the story and then okay,
so plan for the episode. I have a really sweet
story to tell you guys, and we're gonna do a
moon oracle read on me, and then we have a
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couple stories that wasn't in the episode we did with
Aurora and Fanny from Bad Witch's productions. So you're gonna
go ahead, and you're gonna go your your ears are
gonna go ahead and hear Lisa's story, and then you're
gonna come back here. We'll do the oracle reading. Well,
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should we say hello or do you just tell me what?
We'll do the hellos. We'll worry about the hellos later.
But the reason we wanted to tell the story right now,
because this will be kind of like a splicy episode,
is because lie happened splicy, spicy, but this happened in
this house where I'm staying right now. So I was like, well,
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it'd be cool if I just told the story because
like in the house, because what if something else happens.
So I get this text message of a picture of
a baby monitor that is already so creepy. I know, Okay,
I didn't screenshot what she had said to me about it,
but I think she said like, do you see a
face or do you see anything? And so I want
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Caitlin to now open this photo I don't want to.
And it is circled so you know where to look,
but it's pretty obvious. I don't think you even need
the circle. Okay, I'm making it bigger just to be sure,
as she should. So in the picture is you know,
the kid on the bed hanging out and behind him.
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What it's something is that it looks like a face
to me a pretty clear face. And I said, you, yeah,
I do see that. It's kind of creepy. And she says,
as I was trying to get up close to look
at it, it looked like she was blinking. So she
was physically seeing the face and the eyes were blinking. No,
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uh huh, nope, nope, no, she said it it could
have been, like she thought, maybe it was like a
reflection the sun and the window type of thing. You know,
it maybe could have been some wiggling leaves blinking the eyes.
But it's just like very like everything has to work
out just right for all of that to happen, and
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that like the kid is in this room all the
time and they watch them on the camera, so it's
like this, something like this would have happened before, like
you would know. I don't know, oh, I don't know,
but it is so clear. Obviously we're going to be
showing the picture, so they'll, you know, they'll have seen it.
She said her daughter because she was watching her daughter's son,
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So her grandson, she said to her daughter, said it
was her grandma and she was watching over the kid.
So okay, well it might turn out to be like
a little more heartfelt than creepy. But definitely at first
when you're seeing like this fucking giant face and you're
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that could be creepy.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
I don't I don't ever want to see a giant
face in your baby monitor.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Never have a baby also that I really honestly, I've
thought about getting a baby monitor for the dogs as
I'm like pointing at one of the dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
But they are so creepy they are, And just like
the noises that the like things don't sound normal coming
out of a baby monitor, like things just sound fucking weird. Yeah,
so I don't know. Oh, I just got like cold,
babies don't need to be monitored.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I mean, they for suresys do from what I hear,
but so fucking creepy.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Okay, I have cleared the energy out of these let's
put our energy of the baby monitor, grandma face and
these are all positive too, so that's always good. Yeah.
I just feel like we need a positivity day, you know. Yeah,
guide me hm, of course.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
I'm feeling somewhere in the middle, not all, probably more
towards the left. I feel like the card the left,
like your index finger put it down, No, your other Yeah,
so like right in there where your index fingers at.
That's what I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oooh okay, Celestial, very dreamy. She's also kind of creepy though, Yeah,
but I love it, Okay, celesteal. It happened in a bedroom. Oh,
she's like holding a key. Oh. Interesting. It has a
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little quote the universe conspires to reveal the truth to
make your path easy if you have the courage to
follow the signs, and that is Lisa Unger, hunger, hunger.
What are the signs? Wait? What are the si I
don't know? Okay, down my mark. Oh this is kind
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of interesting. It says guys, signs and spirits. So if
it was kind of like a spirit guide angel, yeah,
figure hanging over the kid. Okay. It says pay close
attention to the messages and signs delivered to you. Some
may be easier than others to recognize spirit guides and
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energies combined with the universe deliver guidance sometimes in the
smallest of details. This is interesting because it's like you
had to be looking at this baby monitor at the
specific time. Like even if it was like shadows from
the trees making but so clearly made a face. I
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just like, even if it was shadows from like trees
or whatever, I still feel like just seeing the details
of all that put together like that.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah, it's just sort of like even if it's not
what we think it is, circumstances Like I feel like
conspired has maybe a negative connotation, but like circumstances conspired
for that to be like kind of visual that was
presented and.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
At that moment that you were looking at it at
the time of.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Day, like and our brains like process things and look
for patterns and like recognizable like shapes and things like.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That, but like especially faces. I know there's a name,
I just don't know what it is at the top
of my head, but you see faces in like everything, Yeah, yeah,
but it's just so interesting. And then the fact that
it also looks like maybe it could be a family
member it's just I feel like that's definitely a sign,
Like that's a guide and a spirit and like a
protector I think.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I mean, come on, like, if you're going to say
that that isn't then I want to know what does
it take for you to see it that way?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Like, if that's not it, then you tell me, like
what do they have to do? It's kind of like
that story where it's like during some sort of like
a natural disaster, right. I've heard different iterations of it
where this person is offered like a lifeboat or something,
and the person's like, oh no, I'm good, I'm gonna
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stay right here. Oh God protect me, and like progressively,
it's like the situation is getting worse and worse and
worse and worse, and they're not taking the lifeline that's
being offered to them and they're like, oh God will
provide for me, blah blah blah. And then at the
very end of it they realize like oh shit, I'm
dead and they're like God, why didn't you protect me?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And he's like, oh, I sent you.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I sent you a life boat, a helicopter, and like
all this shit, like I don't know what more you
wanted me to do?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
What do you want?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
And it's like that's kind of the vibe I get
from it, just like in a very different, like a
spiritual sense, and just sort of like you don't have
to see it that way, But what would it take
for you to like assign it meaning and to interpret
it in a way that this has meaning to me?
Or are you just so cynical that no matter what
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is presented in front of you, you're never gonna see
it as something.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Oh, it's an optical illusion, you know what I mean,
Like you're just too There are people like that. Yeah,
well that's just it is.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I'm like that to me is like I know I
want to see things yea to a degree.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So it's like, you know, it's kind of in the
eye of.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
The beholder, right, But like if you just are not
really a believer, but you start sort of like getting
these little signals and like signs and things and you're
just like nope, like nope, it's not.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Just convince you. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's interesting. I
don't know, because it doesn't take much to convince like
either of us, So I don't know, we're not in
that headspace. And you know what, I don't want. It's
kind of like trying to understand a serial killer, Like
I don't want to understand.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think I don't want to live in
unmagical life on Meajugal. No, it's like, I don't know,
why do you want to why do you want to? Manifest?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Like absolutely nothing. It's so weird you said manifest because
like the first card when I picked up the deck
to shuffle, the one on the bottom was manifest. Really yeah, yeah,
it's just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
It's like maybe it is nothing, but people that just
kind of like want to see nothing where you could
see magic.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Beautiful things. Yeah, the worst, Like I'm already depressed enough.
The world's depressing enough. Like yeah, I just I'll live
in a fantasy fun land if I want to, and
you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Okay, I mean, if that's how you choose to live,
like you know, that's obviously like that's each individual person's right.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
But I'm just like, why.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Why do you choose to suck the air out of
the room and the joy out of every experience?
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I don't know, I don't know. So it goes on
to say become tuned into those communications presented to you.
They are gifts. Sometimes your message will be delivered very clearly.
Other times it may feel like you are putting a
puzzle together. Your intuition will play an important role in
your discoveries. Have you ever found a butterfly, wing, a coin,
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or even a feather while taking a walk and you
instantly know it was meant for you? I think we
both have experienced these things for sure, someone with a feather. Oftentimes,
the presence of an energy will surround you. Listen and
watch closely. Let's it. Yeah, listen and watch. Watch your
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baby monitors, y'all. And if you see something, take like,
take a picture of it and send it to us.
There is one more little extra excerpt. The intention for
this card be one with the universe and spiritual world.
What were we just like saying? You are the sun,
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the moon, the planet and the stars and the wind
in the trees and the shadows on the wall.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
That is giving such Leo energy. It's like you are
the sun.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Match everything. You are the Sun, I am the moon.
So oh that's so true. I know we're both gonna
be stus. Maybe we already are names babes mabes babes. Okay,
so that was sweet. So last I like that. I
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really that's really perfect. I was like talked about signs
and seeing that perfect I shink show. Okay, are we
ready for my story? Are we going to cry? We
don't know? Wait what that that? No one? There was
no trigger warning for me. On on I know, I
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feel like we might cry. Now, I'm like regretting my decision.
We're to have fun? Why why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I had a dream, and I know if you guys
have dreams, most people like early who cares about dreams?
But we love to hear Yeah, love them. Get out
of here with that manifesting nothing and caring little for dreams. Nonsense,
we love them. So I'm about to tell you about
my dream, but we don't want to hear then, yeah, yeah,
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get out of here, you damn you. Okay. So I
have this dream and I was playing with this little creature.
This little creature was playing with me. Oh okay, And
it sounds weird and creepy, but like I had just
like the best feeling about it. So this creature was
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like a little Hey, I have to pull up a picture. Okay, wait,
So is this a real creature? Well, I'm gonna describe
it to you and you could tell me. Oh my god. Okay,
all right, So it looked like a cat toy. Do
you know these little like wormy cat toys and they
kind of like have they kind of move, you know,
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like little dangly worm things. Yeah, but that's not a creature, Cassie. Okay,
but it was it shaped like that looked just like that,
and it was like, you know, my god, it's like worm, Cassie.
Do you know what? Do you know what this is giving?
What would you love me if I was a worm?
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Who's a worm?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Wait? What's that?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Did you never see that?
Speaker 5 (17:56):
It was like such a TikTok trend where it was
like girls just like doing the most ridiculous like it's
like relationship test, like they would ask their like boyfriends, husbands, whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Would you still love me if I was a worm?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Like?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
What constitutes a good answer to that?
Speaker 7 (18:15):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Because you're a worm. Because you're a worm, Like, what
is there to love?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We just we exist in very different ways in the world.
I just I don't know, but this maybe this changes
your opinion. Okay. So it was this weird little worm
furry creature, and it was like it was like a
free worm. It's like carrying this on my arm, yeah
kind of, but it was like, look, it moved like
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one of those cat toys shape like okay toy, and
it kind of like floated around and moved around on
my arm. And it was like rainbowie pastel like splatchy
colored like that sounds like tidie. It was kind of
tied ie ish. Yeah, yeah, fully not like fully tie.
I don't really know. It's like just satchy like pastel rainbow.
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It was so cute. What is that? It was like
really goofy and I just remember like laughing and like
being like you're silly like and cute, like what are you?
And then it would come down it and it would
like nibble on my fingernails. It was so goofy. The
energy was just like so like like that seems so wholesome.
It was, And in the dream I kind of like
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remember thinking like kind of feels familiar, but like I
don't really I'm not like thinking that hard about it
because I'm like chilling with this little cool creature in
my dad.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You're like whatever, I can analyze this later, yeah, yeah, exactly,
and here it is now it's later.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
So yeah. So I was just like enjoying my time
with the thing, and it was like feeling like kind
of familiar, but I couldn't really place it. And then
when I woke up, I was like, that was so cute,
Like what in the world, what's that? I was like,
I need to write this stream down, and so I
started writing it down and like thinking about it the
sudden I was like, oh, I know exactly why this
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energy like fills familiar to me. Why what is it?
I think it was my dog. Oh, I think it
was myche because she was like such a weird, little
crazy goofy like and she was a big Doberman right yeah,
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but like she acted like she was this tiny little thing,
and she would like she would like be wiggly and
like curl up into like the tiniest little dobe ball,
and like she would always nibble on my fingernails. That's
so sweet, I know. So I was like, oh my god,
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that was Shay. She was just like hanging like her
little beard fucking spirit like visited me in my tree.
That's so cute, I know.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And she really did think she was just like a
little tiny Wiggleworm'm like, uh.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Huh, that's She's like, I'm the size of a cat toy,
Like I'm tiny, she definitely thought. So. Yeah, it was
like I haven't really had like dreams about her since
she passed, and it's been it was August second, twenty
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twenty three. It was the twenty second. It was the second, oh,
the second. Yeah, so it was just last it was
a week ago. It was her was the god two
years because it's twenty twenty Yeah, okay, so two years.
That's crazy, my baby girl. I don't know if I
like talked about it or not, but I don't know
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if you want to see what. So when she we
had to put her down because it was like, yeah,
something that was going on. And so when we did,
her ear like stood up and it just stayed that way.
And it was something that used to have, like her
ear would just like randomly pop up and she would
be like just goofy, yeah, just for it to like
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pop up when she passed, and for her, it just
stayed that way until like I watched it like flop
out of the room. It literally just stayed up all
and like the other one obviously is down so it
wasn't like rigor mortis or anything else, and she had
just passed. But isn't that crazy? But this is like
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one of my favorite baby pictures ever. Oh and this
is like the weirdest little goofy rainbow energy. She she
had bright blue eyes too when she was born. She
had like pastel blue eyes. So crazy I miss her
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and the like I remember driving to the emergency vet
and like the moon was like huge and full in
the sky and I was just like, I know, I
know what's going down tonight. And then I did a
moon oracle reading and when I got home from the step,
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I'm curious if I know I know the card that
I pulled to but obviously, like I don't feel like
I'm gonna I don't feel like I'm gonna get that
same card. But maybe we don't know. Yeah, Okay, I
damn it, you asshole. I have to go grab some tissue. Okay, sorry, Okay,
I'm the worst. Think about my dog.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I want too, That's how I got into this man.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
But she's happy. She's floating around like a little weird
cat toy. We called her Chibby too, So I feel
like that's just like the little, that little thing just
like little chimmy because chet, I mean, Shay is such
like a nice sexy name. I feel like she was
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not really a Shay. She was more of a chivvy.
I love that. I'm gonna use that now. I'm kind
of more of a chibby hibby. We'll do this thing.
Put it on my chesticles, pull on from the heart. Wait,
which side is your heart? On the left of the right? Uh,
the left? I thought, is this my left?
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Which side is my heart? I'm really bad at this,
you guys, okay, anatomy and annoy my love and we
believe you, Oh blossome, Oh is that not me and
my baby girl?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Or what I mean?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I know she was a dog and not a human.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
But.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Dogs can be more human than some humans, that is true,
especially these days. I love that there's like all of
the colors of the rainbow in this Yeah, there really are.
It's like I feel like this little thing, it's just
like the energy, like the just like the flowing like
free yeah, wist be almost feeling energy.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Yeah, sort of a chibby kind of a just like
a chibby vibe, you know, general chibbiness.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Okay, blossom. That was a good eek because I eke
for we can tell the difference. Yeah, okay, okay. The
quote is be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid
only of standing still. And that's a Chinese proverb. I
like that. I feel like that's kind of like what
we were sort of talking about earlier with the other cards.
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Why are you afraid of like seeing signs and like
magic in the world. You'd rather just say, like you're yeah,
anyway says grow, progress, change. This planet is our Earth,
Earth school, But this planet is our Earth school Earth. See,
I can't even say Earth school, Earth the school Earth
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a school. We cannot learn if we do not challenge ourselves. Yes,
it may feel uncomfortable, difficult, exhausting, or even a bit scary,
the outcome will be far better than the option of
remaining still instagnant. You may not succeed at first, but
if you try, try again. No, that's not what it says.
I was like, oh god, No, I mean it kind
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of says that. It says you may not succeed at
first and may make a few mistakes, but that is
called being human. Okay, I mean that's fair. Growth will
be your reward. Move forward towards your goals. You may
need to see a few detours along your journey. A
flower takes time to blossom from a seedling until it
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is in full bloom. Be patient. It will be worth
the weight. Sprinkle yourself with water and get plenty of sunshine.
Your life will bloom into its full expression of beauty. Ooh,
and the intention is soaking the nutrients of the earth
and her gifts. Take risks, explore without fear. You will bloom.
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I like that, thinks Shade. It's nice. I haven't bloomed yet.
It's been a few months, she says. To be patient.
I mean she visited me a few months ago in
the dream. I feel like that was just like a
message from her. I don't know, Okay, yeah, you're like,
it's not happening yet. I have not yet, like uh,
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but it was interesting because it was in March, so
it was like right before the you know, summertime, when yeah,
like spring, yeah, like taking we started to think about
taking a break, and then summer we've been sprinkling ourselves
with the sunshine and water, trying to grow. I really
like that the card had rainbowiez on it. Rainbowieas I
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find the one that I pulled when she passed. It's
so interesting too because when I this deck, when I
thought I like heard my cat and things too, and
like got a message from my cat, and then now
I'm like talking to my dog through it. It was
one of I think it was this one. It was
like one of the ones where it looked like it
was a moon and the soul from the dog was
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like going up to it, enjoyed the little things for
one day. You may look back and realize they were
big things. And that was all about it. Like I
just like bwled my eyes out reading all of this.
But now I am curious. I have my moon calendar.
Let's go, let's go look at it. Do you think
it was it was like a full moon.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I'm pretty sure it was, or it was like close,
Oh it was just after the full moon.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Okay, yeah, it was still huge in the sky. And
you know, I was like stressed out because I was like,
what if I don't make it in time? Like s
diuyes in the back seat, and I was like, no,
the moon. I was like following the moon. The Moon's
gonna get me there. It's gonna be fine. Everything's fine. Yeah,
that's it's a hard thing. I feel for anyone who
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has to deal with pet loss because it fucking sucks.
I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I'm sorry, guys, but it's like part of I know,
it's like part of it though, And you know what's
going to happen. No, but not ever to your dogs,
not the pop dogs. Well, should we end on some
scary spooky stories from Aurora and Fanny? Yeah, and just
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make everyone's tears go to fears? From what I remember,
I think they were scary. I think they were both
scary scary. Yeah, it's been a minute. Do you guys
have any ghost stories besides this, Like, any spooky things
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ever happened to you besides like the one you're working
on in the film?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yeah, you don't have to tell them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All Okay, Well I will now.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I hope you have to.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I hope you have a beverage here.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
I'm going to go hours.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I can always only tell four hours ago stories.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
I can always come back on and tell more, like
we'll always have you, all.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Right, I'm going to tell one that I have not
told on the podcast before, because like I have one
that like kind of is my go to. And I
lived in a haunted house in Austin, Texas like years ago,
and like there was always like weird things like cabinets banging,
and like I kind of figured out that the spirit
that was like in this space, it didn't like it
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when I would leave things untidy, like it started when
I first moved in, and like like the kitchen being
a mess and like the cabinet doors would slam, and
I had dreams about this ghost and my roommate did too,
like the same kid, and like there's all these weird things,
but this was really weird. Like one night I woke
up and I'm like, you know, fast asleep. I'm like
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laying in bed and I like wake up and like
roll over on my back and I look up at
my ceiling and there's like this woman that's like on
fire like above me. Like I can like see your
face like high her hair and she's like red and
then this like supernatural, yes, like clear as I could
see it. I wasn't dreaming, like I was definitely awake,
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and like it like went away, you know, Like it
wasn't like I got up and I could moved around
the room and still saw it, Like I looked up
and I'm like seeing it, and I'm like freaked out,
and I like go over to get like my like
something off my nights and like my glasses or my phone.
I'm like what the fuck do I do? And like
then it's like gone. And I still don't know if
that was Like I've never believed in demons, Like I'm
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not like a religious person, and I sort of thought
maybe they were associated with some kind of religious thing.
It's like a big thing in the Catholic Church and
like I'm like an eighth or whatever. So I was like,
I don't know how I feel about that, But like
if that wasn't a demon, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I was gonna I think, are we believers now?
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Because that feels, uh feels pretty on the nose.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It was so creepy, But I also had this feeling
that she was protecting me, Like it didn't feel like
a bad energy, Like it was like terrifying to see,
Like I can still see like what she looked like
in her like red like gown in her like fire hair,
and just looked like she was like a glow on
my ceiling, just like suspended from my ceiling, but like
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I still felt like she was like not there to
harm me.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Maybe angel to protect you, A fire angel.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
A fire angel angel.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I think she's doing a horrible job. No, ie kidding,
fire Angel, I left you.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
She's like, oh, now she's going to appear at Bobby
at night, be aware.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
No kidding, Right, they do say that biblically accurate angels
would be terrifying.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Oh yeah too.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Behold, yeah, I have heard that I don't have to
believe in a religion.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I haven't looked into it any further.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
I should like try to like figure out like if
I could like draw it somehow and then like reverse
people image search it.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yes, did you did you try to google like fire
woman on my ceiling and see if anyone else had
any any stories.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, now I'm going.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
To oh yeah, yeah, serious to do it because maybe right.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Yeah, you'll have to let us know. That seems like
a really good scene for like.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
You should put that into one of ours.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, yes, yes, please.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Honestly, the way to really get that train moving is
to see if you can do like an ai generative
uh drawing of it, like I've got I've got to
get this going now. I need I need people, I
need something.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
It can reverse her.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Somebody make a drawing of it and send it to
us and I'll let you know if like it or not.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah. Perfect, We'll be accepting submissions please, Yes, Fanny. Have
you had any spooky experiences?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
I had once. I think it was like eight years
ago or something.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I was still together with my ex boyfriend and at
that time, I was still living with my parents. And
once we were sitting on the bed and we both
felt that someone is running towards us, like some kind
of weird energy. And first I thought it was just me,
but then we looked at each other and he was like,
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have you seen it as well? And I was like,
oh my god, I thought it was just me, but no,
he could sense it too.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
It was actually terrifying.
Speaker 7 (34:47):
And then I think another day, we saw a shadow
passing in front of the door and then I texted
my mom. I was like, what are you doing down here?
And she was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I'm in bed.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
I was like, oh no, no, no, no, burn the
house down, leave the country.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
It was crazy, but that's it. Nothing else happened.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's it. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, And the one time yeah, Bunny was crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Did you like tell it to go away or anything
or did.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
It No, it just it just went away.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, interesting, Yeah, it was just passing through.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Maybe, thank goodness, because I don't know if I could
handle it living in a hunted house.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I don't think so. No, no, no.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
I mean maybe just because you didn't really you didn't
feed into it.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
I don't think you gave it what it might have
been seeking.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Maybe yeah, maybe, you.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Know, like if you don't get a reaction from something
like that, or it.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Was like passing through, like looking for you know, like
you said earlier, like a lower vibration person, like someone
who's sad and depressed. Vibes are too yeah good yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And goodness you weren't depressed, yeah or something.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
But it was crazy enough. It wasn't enough one time.
I don't need more of these experiences.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Are you worried that, like working on a horror film
might might bring up some more experiences for either of you?
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Gosh, I was not thinking about this.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
But thank you.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Sorry, that's gonna say. There are some pretty famous instances.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
It is a good point, like we're going to be
filming at a medium's office and like we were, you know,
our first thought was that we would like run out
an office space and kind of furnish it to look
how we envisioned it. But like the price of like
bringing in furniture and like all this stuff, we're like, well,
that seems kind of silly on a low budget thing,
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Like maybe we can just find a taro shop that
already kind of looks like what I had envisioned. And
we found like this great space that's in Marongo Valley,
which is near Joshua Tree where I live. And the
owner of the shop is like so great. Like every
story she tells, like she does like shadow work, like specifically,
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and like every time she tells me a story, it'll
be something like yeah, so, like last night, I decided
to take a bunch of mushrooms, and like while I did,
I got this phone call from a number that was
like eight six six six sixty six something. Oh, and
she's like I didn't answer it, like I knew it
was like a scam call. But then like Satan appeared
to me and he's like, I told you I was
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gonna like appear tonight. I tried calling you. Oh, she
tells me as like that and I'm like, what kind
of energy is just hanging around her shop? Because like specifically,
like if people like she does taro and she does
lots of stuff, but if somebody feels like they've attracted
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a negative energy, that's like what she does. She does
a lot of shadow work, and like she's like, I
have to be able to see like demons and scary
things and not be afraid of them because I have
to be able to confront them for someone else, which
is like horrifying to me. And like again, I never
know how much I really like believe in that kind
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of stuff, but it's very different when it's happening to you.
I now know. But what is it her shop? Like
there could be demons in there?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Well, hopefully she's good at like cleansing out the energy
and I'm sure she'll have tips for you guys to
like kind of protect.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
So she's not going to be there. She's going to
be Yeah, she's actually we're filming there while she's at
her husband's like a former Disney animator and he makes
like this really cool artwork and these like big things
called like infinity boxes and they have like a thousand
mirrors inside of them and you put your head in it,
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and it looks like this alternate reality and it's like
very cute and fun. And he like travels all around
the US with them, Like he takes them to San
Francisco for art exhibits and here and there, and he's
taking them to Burning Man for like a display. So
like they'll be going to Burning Man with their Infinity
boxes and we'll be filming during that time, just because
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she doesn't have to close down the shop.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
She's not.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Good, yeah, but she's not going to be there to
chase out demons. So if we find ourselves in trouble.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, fingers crossed one. I either want to deal with demons.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You'll have to be very intense and be like, no
one is allowed to follow me home, do not attach
yourself to me, don't show yourself to me.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
We'll have to all be in like really good moods
and get ourselves like really up. So it's not a
comfortable place to be.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Get some crystals with you.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
Yes, I'm going to say, Cassie, you've done a DIY
episode kind of on this topic.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
It's just you know, I love that we have to
watch it. Okay, Cassie's coming Cassie will be on side
and the local like, what's it called when somebody expels demons?
Speaker 7 (40:06):
Isn't it like an ex exercise?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Actual exorcist?
Speaker 5 (40:14):
My goodness, Why doesn't feel like she just got a promotion.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
We actually gonna have to raise more money in our
indiego go now to accommodate Cassie's salary as the exercise,
Hey the exorcist.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yes, they're really expensive.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
There's nothing cheap to do an exercis, y'all.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Save us?
Speaker 3 (40:37):
That would be that would be actually really cool to
like have someone be in charge of like protecting the space,
like cleansing it, making sure everyone is like shielded from
bad energy. That would actually be like something I would
not be good at, honestly, Like necessity. Yeah yeah, okay,
if you if you if you're desperate and you need someone,
you can call me, all right down. I'd probably do
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it for free.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
I kind of just want.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
To yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll pay for my flight,
you know, I'll just I'll pay myself. I'll pay my
own salary and I'll just tag along.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
All right.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Lunch is provided and it's going to be very good, perfect,
and I do not mess around with catering, like be
the best food.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Message I heard that film catering is something else.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's the best crafty catering. It's like somewhere, it's honestly
like the thing I miss most about working on a
film set. Like when people say they like working on
a film set for the creative process, what they're really
saying is for catering.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Not everywhere catering is only treashful.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Catering is not good and hungry. It's actually the person
never happens.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
It's really bad. It's really bad.
Speaker 7 (41:57):
It was better everywhere else, Like it was amazing, like
everywhere else.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
It's like healthy food.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
You got to get out of there. She's like, I'm
trying a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, gosh.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Like in Vancouver, this show I was on, they had
like dumpling trucks that would come on Fridays.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, oh my god, I would love to have. Is
that the dumpling trip? I hear right now? Did they
play music?
Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
Yeah, yeah, oh my god. What does dumpling music sound like?
Speaker 5 (42:30):
I feel like it would be like a little bit
more jaunty than regular ice cream truck.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
Yeah, Cassie got it.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, that's what dumpling sound like to me, have you
guys ever done any paranormal investigations?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Mm hmmm sort of. I have friends who are like
very into this, and I've been invited for time to
time to do something. But actually we were in mont
Tana for Halloween on nineteen twenty three and one of
the guys that was like an office coordinator, he is
very into ghost hunting and has a YouTube channel and
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like we trade stories like it was like great, Like
he's a great guy.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
John.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
I wish I knew the name of this channel, but
but anyways, he organized something at this hospital that's no
longer in use in Butte, Montana, and we actually shot
like an exterior scene at this hospital that's in nineteen
twenty three. It's like where Alex goes to the hospital,
like when she's rescued and in like the interior is
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like known for being very haunted. It's been shut down
for years, but it was like a regular hospital like
in the early nineteen hundreds because Bute, Montana is like
super ancient from like silver mining and copper mining, mostly
copper mining and whatever, and then it was a wasn't
a mental health hospital. It was like a bad one
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health makes it sound like it was cute. It was
like a sanitarium d of thing. And so it's like
quite haunted. And so he brought in all kinds of
equipment and I don't know much about it because I've
never like gotten very into I love the idea of it,
I've just never invested time in doing it myself. But
he brought all the equipment and all the devices that
make noises and whatever. And while we were there, we
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were in this room that was like quite active when
me and this other girl first like walked in and
then it like got very quiet and like there was
no interaction. And one of the guys was like, oh,
like maybe it just wants like the girls in here,
Like should we ask it if it wants the guys
to leave? And so like they asked, and the device.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
Went get that. I don't dare leave right.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And then like the two guys and like also like
as soon as I walked into this room, I got
a headache, like just like this like heaviness, Like I
got like an instant headache, and like it definitely had
like a bad energy to it. And so the and
like the guy John that organized it's like, oh, like,
do you girls like want to be in here alone
with the ghost. And I looked at him and I
was like, if you leave me here, I will never
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talk to you again. Like I was so freaked out
and like just like this chill like ran up my
spine and I was like, if I'm left alone in here,
it's not good. Like I knew it was like a
bad thing, and I was so freaked out, right, but
like that was our big experience at the night, Like
that was the only thing I actually like saw or
fell or experienced. Was like the headache and then the
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thing going crazy and me being like I will kill
anyone who.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
If it was like creepy old man ghost who just
wanted to be alone with you, Because I feel like
if it was like a woman ghost who wanted the
men to leave, like you wouldn't have had that bad feeling,
Like you would have felt better about it, right, yeahs creepy,
I'm glad he didn't leave your No solved it, and
(45:57):
I hate it. Should we just quickly like pull a
card for them and just like see how they're doing. Yeah,
I have this pile sitting here and it's all wonky,
and I feel like I'm just gonna go in and
just just grab one, just grab one and just gray
a it, like, how is their movie going? How's this?
How are things going? Because I think their indiegog ended. Yeah,
(46:21):
I was gonna say, I think they wrapped up the fundraiser.
It says wisdom, And of course it's a witch because
bad witches. Well dui, and they're not all witches in
the deck. There's many mini witches, but not all of them.
So we pulled one with a witch. This is funny
because it feels like it's towards you a little bit.
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But okay, well, old age is not a disease. It
is strength and survivorship, triumph over all kinds of disappointments,
trials and illnesses. And that's Meggie Kahan.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
Oh maybe that'll make more sense when I'm older.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
That's interesting, Okay. I mean I feel like that just
means like they've they've been through a lot in their
lives and they will, not that they're old, not that
a Or and Fanny are all also so I'm just
so young I can't relate. But this goes with like
wisdom and so the key words are elders, knowledge, and respect.
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I feel like this is less age than it's more
like experience because I know like they have a shit
ton of experience in the Yeah, I feel I feel
like it's about Yeah, that makes more sense. We're not
calling you elderly. We swear your elders have great wisdom
to impart and share with you. Extend your love and
a listening ear. Visit and talk with an elderly family
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member or someone that could use some company. Or maybe
that's telling them to seek out someone who's older for
like advice, or it does always make me think of
like wanting to visit people and like homes whose family
doesn't go visit them. You will also take away valuable advice.
They have an amazing lifetime of stories and lessons to
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share with you. Our elders have endured hardship and most
surely have navigated much different times than today's younger generations.
Them kids discuss heritage, history and traditions. Play a game,
Let them teach you a skill like knitting, have a
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meal together, or take a walk. Let them know how
much you appreciate and respect them. Wisdom can only be
gained by experience and a lifetime of surviving. Gather as
much wisdom as you can from the wise in your life.
Are you crying? I guess I know? Why are you
trying to ruin my day? I didn't know it. The
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intention for this card is seek guidance from an elder
if needed. Be confident that your own experiences have prepared
you for your future. Be confident that your own experiences
have prepared you for your future. I am done making
Caitlin cry for the day.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
I yeah, I'm hanging up so that you can't anymore.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
My god, I already.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
Told you, like, I really messed up on the dosage
of my sleep.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Supplement last night and it has been an e bush
rollercoaster since.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
Like eight pm last night. Yeah, three o'clock the following day.
I'm just still like, what is.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
What is life?
Speaker 1 (49:45):
Man?
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Well? Should we not goodbye but have a day? We'll
see you And I'm not It's unclear either or not.
I will be crying at that. We might we'll figure
it out. Yeah, yeah, I have a story because no
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one is writing us, so we're just going to talk
about me. I don't say no one is writing us,
but they're not. They need to. I know, I don't know.
I'm just being silly. And I want people to like
feel bad that they're not writing us, like I'm trying
to guilt trip people as well.
Speaker 5 (50:31):
Okay, Okay, actually I can get behind that obviously, like
you know, coming from a Catholic family on.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
Both sides, Yes, I can get behind that. Okay. So
this just so everybody's clear, the intention here.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
Is a guilt trip because we know that we've gotten
dms and messages were you know, or we've seen you
at conventions and you've said, oh, I have this story
and then we're like.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Did you forget to write it in? Yeah, you dud
because we just I don't know. I just other I
know all like other shows do it and stuff too,
and I like it's one of my favorite things to
listen to on other shows.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
And I just like will give you like a free
reading like an oracle or tarot if you have a
request for what deck you want us to use, like
if we have it, if it's in our catalog or whatever,
that's right. You know, I just want to I like
connecting and doing things for people and hearing your creepy
and or sweet stories. They could be true crimey. I mean,
(51:34):
I hope you don't have any true crime stories, but
I mean some people do. It depends how true crimey. Yeah,
what kind of true crime and if you feel comfortable
sharing it's all that and also you know we don't
judge
Speaker 5 (51:49):
So plus we'll send you stickers to right, we'll send
you sticker well, pretty much like do whatever you want
you basically anyway