December 2, 2025 • 41 mins
What if that quiet thought in the back of your mind is true: “Maybe I’m not doomed to feel this way for the rest of my life!”
In today’s episode, Jarrod and Anita sit down with Terry Edwards of Eat Plant Based, an amazing Christian who watched rheumatoid arthritis and chronic illness run through her family while her own joint pain, adult acne, exhaustion, and sleepless nights kept getting worse. She listened to the experts, did all the “right” diets, and still found herself wondering if she would even be mobile in ten years…
Then God began awakening her to His original, delicious design for optimal health. Through a simple documentary, wise mentors, and a growing understanding of biblical nutrition and plant based foods, Terry discovered that she was not destined to repeat her family’s story. Her joints, sleep, skin, and energy all began to improve significantly as she embraced a whole food plant based lifestyle, and that personal healing grew into a ministry and platform that now serves hundreds of thousands!
If you are a purpose driven leader or Kingdom entrepreneur who feels stuck in a body that will not fully cooperate with your calling, this conversation will remind you that God wants you well and that your genetics do not have to be the final word.
You will hear how to harness food as medicine, why some doctors never mention plant based options, and the steps Terry used to finally go from exhausted and unable to live her God-given dreams to teaching in cancer centers and reaching the world online.
Listen in to turn your body into your greatest advantage in business and life, without missing out on food you love, going on fad diets, or spending hours at the gym! Finally feel good so you can 10x your productivity and FULLY live your kingdom calling.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Maybe I'm not doomed to be like this for the rest of
my life.
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
Right.
Yes.
Yeah.
And you know, that was the scarypart before you realize you have
options, especially if you havea medical condition that runs in
your family, and then you beginhaving those symptoms and you
don't know that there's anyother way.
SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast.
Are you tired of staring intothe fridge wondering what to eat
so you can just feel better?
Do you want to avoid spendinghours in the kitchen making
complicated meals in the name ofhealth?
Would you love to leave fatiguebehind and finally have the
energy to do all the things youwant to do?
(00:41):
Hi, we're Jared and Eatery SaleChristfollowers, healthcare
professionals, parents of four,and big fans of great tasting
food.
We too tried exercising more,eating natural and clean foods,
but we still found ourselvesstruggling with what we thought
were changes that come with ageor bad genes.
And we weren't finding answersto traditional route, so we dug
(01:01):
into the research and createdour secret nutritional weapon,
sustainable plant-based living.
The truth is you can eat morewhole plant foods, and it's not
hard.
You just need the way that'srealistic and delicious so you
never feel deprived.
If you're ready to enjoy yourmeals, no longer be held back by
your health struggles andactively live your life, then
(01:24):
you're in the right place.
So grab your favoriteplant-based cup of happy, pop in
those earbuds, and let's getstarted.
Hello and welcome to Power onPlants, where we help Christian
leaders and kingdomentrepreneurs to fuel your body
optimally with whole plant foodsso you can fully live your
God-given calling.
If you've been praying tofinally feel as strong as your
(01:46):
calling, so you can completelylive God's purpose for your life
with maximum energy, focus, andproductivity, take a deep
breath.
You're home now.
Today's guest, Terry Edwards, ishere to stir your faith and
remind you of all that'spossible with God's wisdom
leading the way.
Terry and I were introduced byour dear friend Sid Notter.
(02:08):
And from the very firstconversation, Terry felt like
family.
You know that kind of instantconnection you get that only God
can cause to happen.
That's what happened here.
Terry knows what it's like toface health challenges that make
you wonder if living your fullpotential is even possible.
But instead of giving up, shestarted seeking God's wisdom.
And that search led her todiscover simple, powerful truth
(02:31):
of his original plan fornourishing our bodies.
Her story is one of incredibletransformation.
Today she shares that message ofhope through her platform, Eat
Plant-Based, helping othersexperience lasting freedom and
restoration of health.
Terry's certified in plant-basednutrition through eCornell and
the T.
Colin Campbell Center forNutrition Studies and is a
(02:51):
licensed food for lifeinstructor with the Physicians
Committee for ResponsibleMedicine.
Get ready to be encouraged andequipped as Terry shares what's
possible when faith actuallymeets action, when we align our
lives with God's beautifuloriginal design for help.
Terry, we are so happy to haveyou here with us today.
(03:13):
Thank you.
I'm glad to be here.
Thank you for asking me toparticipate.
Yes, we have just loved thisconnection through Sid and
getting to know you more.
And we can't wait for everyoneto hear your story.
Now, many of our listeners arepurpose-driven leaders and they
keep showing up even whenthey're exhausted or hurting
because they care deeply aboutserving others.
(03:35):
Bring us into that season inyour mid-40s when you had a lot
on your plate and you werefacing health struggles and
looking for answers.
What did a typical day feel likefor you at that time?
SPEAKER_01 (03:49):
That was back in 2012.
Actually, my problem started 10years before that in my 30s.
I started having some um jointpain, mostly in my hands.
Um, that's it's so funny becauseyou know, a lot of folks have
joint pain and weight-bearingjoints, but mine started in my
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hands and then progressivelyworsened over, you know, the
next 10 years.
35 years old is really young tostart with joint problems.
But a little backup for that isthat my mom has rheumatoid
arthritis, and so I knew aboutjoint problems and uh how
(04:32):
debilitating that can be becausemy mother has been, she's uh
almost 80 now, but she has beendisabled since she was 53.
Oh wow.
And yeah, and I have a sisterthat's only 16 months older than
me, and she developed RA uh aswell in her 50s.
So mine started, I mean, and Ihad not been diagnosed with RA.
(04:55):
I've been tested twice and cameback negative, but both my mom
and my sister had multiple teststhat came back negative before
it came back positive.
So um I just had that fear, youknow, that fear of I can see
where I am headed and it'sscary.
So, but in addition to the jointproblems, um I had other things
(05:19):
going on.
Um I had sleeping problems thatrequired me to take, at first it
was just melatonin.
And then, you know, when youtake something like that, you
have to keep upping uh themilligrams on it for it to be
effective.
And then I switched to, orsometimes alternated between
that and one of the um nighttimelike Tylenol or ibuprofen
(05:42):
nighttime things, and I had tohave something to help me sleep
every night.
Um, as well as I had adult acne,I was prescribed and was taking
doxycycline for years, guys.
For years for adult acne.
And I knew that that wasn'tgreat long-term either.
But, you know, um I had acnewhen I was younger and it just
(06:05):
did not go away and itprogressed.
It's it's tough when you're inyour 40s and you've got acne.
Yes.
But that's what you know, I wasdealing with.
And I was working um almost afull-time job.
I was an office manager at thattime for a local company in our
area, and just day to day, youknow, having to work and just
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the duties at home, you know,even house cleaning and things
when your joints are hurting.
I remember leaning over thebathtub, and you know how you
you get on your knees and youscrub and just thinking, you
know, um, at that point, maybearound 40 years old, that I
wasn't going to be able to do itin 10 years or beyond.
(06:47):
And, you know, 55 is not thatold because I'm I am 58 now.
SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
So right.
That was a huge part of my storyas well.
I mean, I can totally identifywith that.
And I think a lot of people canto where you're just hurting,
and then you're told it's oldage or it's your genes, you
know, you're just getting older.
That's just what happens.
We're told so many things that Ifeel like just aren't true, and
we live into and start believingthose things, and then we get
(07:14):
afraid because some things starthappening and then fear takes
over, you know, and it's justit's this vicious cycle.
I mean, I was washing my hair inthe shower.
I tell the story about it andshare this a lot where I was
washing my hair and I was justcrying, tears rolling down my
face, thinking people arewashing their hair right now and
they're not even thinking aboutit.
Like there's so many things wetake for granted when we're not
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having the struggles.
So I love what you're sharingbecause when you understand what
Jared says a lot of times, iswhen you know better, that's
when you can do better.
And that's why we're sopassionate, like you are, about
sharing.
Because we don't want people toeven end up in that place.
But if they do to realizethere's hope.
SPEAKER_03 (07:52):
And we want them to know that there is a possibility
of getting better, that youdon't have to stay like this
because that's their truth, butonly because they don't know the
full picture.
Yes.
And then when you have lightshed on the entire picture, then
it you can have that aha moment.
Maybe I'm not doomed to be likethis for the rest of my life.
SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
Right.
Yes, yeah.
And you know, that was the scarypart before you realize you have
options, especially if you havea medical condition that runs uh
in your family, and then youbegin having those symptoms and
you don't know that there's anyother way, it's scary.
It really is scary becauseyou're looking at your family
(08:34):
members and going, oh no.
And you know, we know 40s isyoung, guys, 50s is young.
Yes.
And if we live to be, you know,in our 90s, what you know, who
knows?
Or you don't even at that pointfor me, I was thinking I'm gonna
be lucky to for the next 10years to be still mobile.
(08:54):
Yes, but my aha moment was uhthe forks over knives um
documentary.
And I hear that from so manypeople, yes, because I think
that thing was uh was createdin, I might be wrong, but I
think around 2011, somethinglike that.
And so it was fairly new becauseum for me, you know, it was uh
(09:16):
2012 and it just had not, itdidn't take off.
I mean, I didn't know anythingabout it.
I would still, well, I probablyhopefully would by now, but at
that point it was my daughterwho was vegan for ethical
reasons, right?
And um, she was young, but shehad seen that documentary
somehow at college and suggestedthat I watch it, but I didn't
(09:41):
right away because I didn't knowwhat it was about.
I truly had no idea.
I thought it was one of thosevideos where it was just about
the animals and you know,sadness and that, you know, and
I was like, I'm not watchingthat.
And forever.
And she kept saying, Mom, haveyou watched that video yet?
Because I think I didn't like, Idon't think I complained.
I hope I didn't complain, but Iwould tell her, you know, oh,
(10:02):
something hurt or whatever.
And then she would say, Did youwatch it?
And you say, So I finally did.
And that is when that was myfirst introduction ever to
plant-based nutrition.
Before that, I had been going tothe doctor, um, trying to find
ways to deal with the jointpain, you know, the medicines
and everything.
And um nothing was just working.
(10:24):
And uh, so I I did try someother diet plans during that
time.
I did that Suzanne Summers, um,you know, where she was like
high protein.
It was like, and I did do Adkinstoo.
I did.
And at one point, you guys willlaugh at this because you're
medical uh trained, but I evenread the book Um How to Eat
(10:46):
Right for Your Blood Type.
SPEAKER_00 (10:47):
Yes, and we've heard many people ask about that.
Yes, we've had many clients askabout that.
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
When you're searching for answers, I mean
that search will take you well,desperate, but it's gonna take
you to a lot of differentthings.
And if you don't know, you don'tknow.
And so So you're willing to trywhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (11:08):
Right.
Yeah, it you know, now that Ilook back on it, I think, oh my
goodness, you know, but youknow, you truly are searching
and uh willing to try aboutanything, and that's the great
thing spaces.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
Yeah, you're at that place where you're willing to
try whatever, but we don't wantpeople to get in that place,
right?
Well, but we were, and so we cantake that knowledge and then be
able to share it with people sothat when you're listening to
this, realize and have hope.
I don't have to end up in theplace where Terry was or Anita
and Jared were hurting all thetime, struggling through the
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day, feeling like this is justhow it's gonna be, because there
are answers and there are thingsthat we know that from the
Bible, and just looking atGenesis 129, I mean, there's so
much more.
Look at Sid's book where shetalks about all the different
scriptures that point to a wholefeed plant-based diet.
But then we look at the sciencethat backs it up.
And we always say, where youfind the place where the Bible
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lines up with science, you havethe gold.
Because you shouldn't need thescience necessarily to prove it.
But when it does, I mean, whywouldn't we try it?
Why wouldn't we try it?
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
And having read all those different diets, that's
part of your story.
And you can tell people, I readall these different diet plans,
and I know that the one that Ihave settled on is the correct
one, the one where it lines upwith scripture, but you're
you're getting the results, andthen you're living proof of it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
And then you share it with other people, like you
share it with your sister, andyou see it working in her life,
and you share it and you startsharing with other people with
clients now, and you see liveschanging, and you think, you
know, this is undeniable now.
There's the proof you've seen itwith your own eyes, and it just
it makes a difference ineverything.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Yeah, it's our story now.
SPEAKER_00 (12:48):
It's our story, absolutely.
Well, if you could go back toyourself when you were 45 years
old and you could whisper onetruth to yourself at that point
when you were struggling withpain and the acne and extra
pounds as well, you shared withme.
I mean, you were exhausted, butstill pushing through the days,
just trying to get things done.
What would be one truth that youwould share with yourself back
(13:11):
then?
SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
Um that there's hope and that God wants me well.
Yes, really.
Because, you know, I tell peoplethat uh so often in the
Christian community, where, youknow, for me, I'm just now kind
of breaking into the Christiancommunity with the plant-based
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message.
And um, I remember, I don'tknow, maybe three years ago, we
had just started going to a newchurch.
And there was a gentleman who isprobably about my age, maybe a
little bit older.
And they called, he actuallywent up, I think, at the end
because he needed prayer.
He had had a stroke, uh, he haddiabetes, he had all these
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things.
And I was new there.
I did not really know anybody,but I felt called after because
he went up for everybody to prayover him, which they did.
Um and shortly after as soon aschurch let out, I whispered to
my husband, I will be rightback, because I had some
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information in the car um fromthe physician's committee about
diabetes.
So I ran out there and I got it,and I went to him and he was
sitting in the pew, and youknow, people were kind of going
around and everything.
But I just knelt down and Isaid, God doesn't want you to be
sick.
So good.
(14:41):
This this is some informationthat may be able to help you.
And I am here, I don't know you,but uh, I am here if you have
questions.
So I, you know, I just feel likeI don't, I'm so excited with the
just this last year and meetingyou guys and knowing Sid and
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others in the plant-basedcommunity who are believers.
It feels like we are finally, atleast for me personally, but I
just see the whole movementreally um coming out with our
faith and how it is so importantwith the way that we eat, our
health.
(15:22):
Um I'm really excited for whatis going on right now and to see
where it ends up going.
I feel like uh God is on themove.
You know, I think about um theChronicles of Narnia, and they
say Aslan is on the move, um,and he represents Jesus in those
stories.
And I just feel like God is onthe move uh in the plant-based
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community reaching out because Iremember Sid telling me when I
first met her how um I don'tknow, maybe a little
disheartened that she was thatChristians weren't, even in her
church, uh in the Christiancommunities were not open uh to
plant-based uh nutrition.
(16:04):
And it's early in the game forme anyway, as far as to see
where it's gonna go, but I'mseeing inklings of it where I
think God's running after hispeople.
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
Absolutely.
Amen to that.
SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
And the revelation of that God wants us well is
huge, huge.
And I feel like the father hasreally opened our eyes about
that the last couple of years.
Not that we ever thought thatGod wanted us sick, but
sometimes we have that idea andit's perpetuated in our culture
that, well, this sickness isjust to keep you humble or God's
teaching you something.
Yes.
I mean, what father would notwant his children to be alive
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and healthy and vibrant?
SPEAKER_00 (16:42):
And he even says that in the word.
Yes.
Like even you, as parents, youknow, as a father, you want to
give good gifts to yourchildren.
How much more do I want to dothat for my children?
So that's his heart as wellness.
We look at Yeshua, Jesus, who'sthe pattern of everything that
father stands for, just lived itout completely and beautifully
for us, and he healed them all.
(17:05):
It says it over and over andover again.
He healed them all.
SPEAKER_03 (17:09):
And we're not denying that sickness happens,
of course, because we live in afallen world.
SPEAKER_00 (17:14):
Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
So sin is still in effect on this earth.
Yes, but that's part of themessage of salvation.
God made a way to restore usback, and we want people to know
God wants you well.
He doesn't delight in you beingsick.
And I think if you can reallytake hold of that truth, then it
gives you hope.
And then you realize there issomething I can do.
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It's not just bad luck or badgenes.
It's not just I'm being smitedor whatever.
Right.
Yeah, it's this is where I am,but that's not where I have to
stay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
And then just huge.
It is huge.
And spirit, soul, and body, hewants us well.
So we teach plant-based to eatyour body well, but we also
teach about getting yourthoughts and feelings and
desires right and in alignmentwith the kingdom of God, because
that's when you start to seereal healing on top of feeding
and stewarding your body withthese beautiful foods he's given
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us that taste better thananything we ever ate before.
You know, people are worriedabout, I mean, this is a real
concern.
How am I gonna just eat grass?
But when you learn and yourtaste buds get cleansed and you
no longer have those addictivechemicals drawing you back into
these foods that really weren'tmeant to fuel our body.
Food-like products, food-likeproducts, right?
Exactly.
Then, and we were talking thismorning about how you know you
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go out and you go for a bikeride or you go for a walk and
you don't see Cheez-Its hangingoff a tree or even oil.
Like there are no bottles of oilhanging off a tree.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (18:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:41):
Yeah, it's amazing.
But like you were talking aboutthough, I love how you're
talking about how this person,you know, your heart went out to
them because they were there inthe church, really seeking for
God to heal them.
We all have that ability.
He can powerfully step in and hewants to powerfully step in.
But think about if he comes in,if he chooses and comes in right
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at that moment because you'reready, your faith is aligned,
you understand that he wants youwell, boom, you're healed.
But then if you keep living andstewarding your body in the same
way, I mean, he does say go andsin no more.
And I'm not saying that howwe're eating is a sin.
I mean, I'm not gonna addressall the different things that
people are doing because I don'tknow, you know, what you've done
up until this point.
And we love people, and ourheart is just for you to be
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well.
But we have to look at what gotus there.
Like, how did we get to theplace we were in our health?
And I know for us, we thought wewere clean eating, Terry.
Like when we were the sickest,and I told Jared, I think I'm
dying.
We were eating, like we weregoing to the farms and buying,
yeah, we were buying organic andfresh milk and pasture raised
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and cage-free and hormone foradded, no added hormones, not
knowing stuff was.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
I have an example to what I think you were explaining
about.
If if we get healed, if wecontinue those same habits,
what's going to happen?
Those things are gonna comeback.
So let's say you live in a houseand you have questionable habits
to where maybe you leave yourgas stove on all the time.
You know, something that's anobvious fire hazard, you burn
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your house down.
Now you get put into a brand newhome, it's completely restored.
If you keep those same habits,you're going to potentially burn
that house down again.
Yeah, you're going to keep thatcycle perpetuated.
So there's a balance that whereGod has set up the world with
specific principles in place,physical principles.
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And part of that is all thefoods he's given us to enjoy to
optimize our health and tooptimize our lifespan so that we
can bring his kingdom here anddo what he's called us to do and
do it effectively.
SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
Yeah, absolutely.
I remember seeing anillustration a long time ago.
You guys have probably seen it.
I'm not sure.
Seems like one of theplant-based physicians maybe put
it on social media or something,but it's a picture of a kitchen.
It's and you know, a drawingwith um an older man and woman
in there with a big farm sink.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:05):
And the water is running in the sink and it's
overflowing into the floor, andthey have mops and they're
mopping, but they don't turn thewater off.
That's a big one is that I guessalong with what you were saying,
Jared.
Um, if you if you don't turn thewater off, what's causing the
problem, right?
And you're just you're justcleaning constantly and not
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resolving the problem.
That is yeah, that's powerful.
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
Yeah, we're told that oh, that water in the sink,
that didn't matter.
That's normal, it's just part ofaging.
You know, the sink's going toeventually fill up and overflow.
Like, no, turn the sink off.
SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
Yeah, it just seems so simple.
You know, and I think about Ithink about creation.
And we know in the beginning,God gave from everything that we
know from the Bible, he gave theseeds and the plants to Adam and
Eve as food.
And for the animals, everythingwas plant-based.
(22:00):
Yes.
Um and as you know, as far as weknow, the first death was of the
animal or animals that had todie to clothe Adam and Eve.
So we can assume and I believethat the you know, God had us
plant-based in the beginning,and when heaven comes down in
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the end, we will go back to thatperfection.
So in the middle, I think ofthose as two bookends creation
on one end and the end of timeson the other.
Yes.
And in between, we can eat anddo.
We, you know, it's I'm notsaying you know, people are
sinful for what the way thatthey eat or anything.
He gives us permission to eatwhatever that we want to, but if
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we know perfection on either endand what he designed us for, um
I don't know.
I I I just feel like that, andwe know just from our own
experiences, going plant-based,that's where health was found.
So um it just seems intuitive tome that that's what we would
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want to um aim for because Godknows best.
Yes, and he knows the ultimatecreator, he knows what he
created our bodies for.
So um yes, we have freedom, butwe also suffer the conf
consequences of um some of thatfreedom sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:28):
I don't think he ever meant.
I mean, we can read the Bibleand see he never really meant
for or wanted animals to have todie to feed us.
Like that was a part, beautifulpart of his creation.
He didn't mean for them to haveto die to feed us, but like you
were saying, because of howthings happen, they had to die
to clothe people.
That was the first thing thathappened as a result of sin, the
death of the animals.
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And we don't do this for for theanimals' sake, so to speak, but
we do love and care for hiscreation and we want what's best
for it.
But he allows us, Jared and Ihave talked about this a lot.
God allows us to do a lot ofthings that weren't his original
design.
Like he allowed his people tohave kings, but he wants to be
the king of our life, you know.
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So people asked for that andthey wanted it.
So that's what he allowed themto have.
But we know that him being theking of our life is for our
ultimate best and for our good.
So yeah, I think that's soimportant to realize that.
And Jared, what the thing thatyou and Jared were both talking
about a minute ago, too, is thesink overflowing and all that.
Jared had come home, he was at auh conference for physician
(24:33):
assistance.
SPEAKER_03 (24:35):
Continuing education conference.
SPEAKER_00 (24:37):
Yeah, and he came home and he looked at me and
said, I cannot do this anymore.
He said, Seriously, I just satin a conference for hours where
the doctor that was presenting,and he was very knowledgeable.
I'm not saying he wasn'tknowledgeable, but he talked
about if your blood pressure isthis, that if their blood
pressure is this, talking aboutyour patients.
If it's this number, you're givethem this medicine.
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And if it's this number, you getthis medicine.
SPEAKER_03 (25:03):
Depending on how high the blood pressure was, the
right type of medication, theright combinations.
And it just hit me we're notreally addressing the root
issue.
SPEAKER_02 (25:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
We keep talking about management, but never once
did we talk about the pathologyof what's going on underneath
the surface that's causing that.
Why don't we address that?
And at the time we weren'tplant-based, but I just knew
that in my heart something wasjust off and then stumbled upon
plant-based, and right aroundthat same time, kind of stumbled
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upon lifestyle medicine.
I thought, what is this?
And this is what I had beenlooking for, and wanted even in
my original education 25 yearsago, but they don't teach that.
I feel like maybe schools arestarting to make a little bit of
headway, but not nearly enough.
And then now we realize what, atleast for a large majority of
people, the root cause is, andit's what we're doing, those
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lifestyle choices that we'remaking.
SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
And we didn't go into medicine and nursing to
help people manage theirdiseases.
We wouldn't help it.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
I mean, we know that some diseases require that.
Right.
We live in an imperfect world,fallen, you know, imperfect
bodies and all that.
So there is some of that, butnot near as much as people
think.
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
Yeah, we want to help people get set free where
they're off of their medicationsor at least on the lowest dose
possible.
And we see it happen time andagain.
Like that is what's normal whenyou get to the root cause of
these things.
Are you seeing the same thingwith your clients?
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Yeah, I actually don't uh I actually don't have
clients or anything.
I uh don't coach or anythinglike that.
But when I was teachingregularly at the hospitals, um
the physicians committee's foodfor life program.
Yes.
Yeah, we saw it all the timebecause we taught the I taught
those classes, all theinstructors do, like four in a
series.
So you did once a week, and wewould have the first session.
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I remember one time inAsheville, North Carolina, I was
teaching at a uh doctor'soffice, and uh we had the first
class, which involved, you know,preparing the food and they got
to eat the dinner andeverything, as well as the
nutrition education.
And uh I was new at teaching andso I just went by the
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curriculum, which was great, andeverything.
But when we came back to a weeklater to the class, one of the
participants was a lady,probably at that time in her
60s, maybe late 60s.
And she said that um she had hadan episode because uh she had
decided everybody in the classis gonna do something different.
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We don't require that you go100%.
We encourage it, um, at leastfor a trial period, because
that's how you're gonna see theresults.
But you don't know what eachperson is gonna do.
You know, you do the class andyou send them home.
Uh, but she came back and shehad been so convinced by the
first class that she was gonnado it 100%, which I was all for
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and encouraged, but she was onmedication, she was on uh heart
medication and diabetesmedication.
And when she went 100% for thoseseven days, it was so powerful
that she had an episode with thehyp hypoglycemic episode because
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her medicine was too powerful atthat point.
The food was working asmedicine, yes, and so it, you
know, to in my mind it was likedouble double medicating
herself.
Yes, and so she had to go to herdoctor and have her medication
reduced because the food wasworking uh in her favor for her
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health, and uh she saw itimmediately.
So after that class, I waswarned, uh, I knew at the first
session, uh the first class ofevery session, tell people who
were on medications you may needto have adjustments during this
time while you're doing this,because this is you know, it's
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it works like medicine.
So that was the first um, andthat was early in my teaching
career, the first time where Irealized because when I was uh I
wasn't when I when I did itmyself, I wasn't on all the
different uh medications likeshe was.
So that was the most powerfullesson that I learned and uh was
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able to share with people aboutthe power of food as working as
medicine.
Yes, and think about what agreat problem that is to have.
SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
I mean, don't you love offering people that
problem?
So it's yeah, you know, when youstart eating plants and you go
all in, here's the thing youwant to be followed by your
personal health care fitprovider in your local area.
That's what Jared and I tellpeople.
We're not gonna be drawing yourblood.
You need to have that happeningbecause you can get results so
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quickly.
That's how powerful these Godgiven foods are, right?
It's like you said.
It's your medicine.
See it like your medicine.
So if you are adding a newmedication, the other ones will
probably need to be adjustedsomewhat.
And we see people come off ofthem high blood pressure
medications, high cholesterol.
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IBS medications, rheumatoidmedications.
And Jared says, if I'm doing myjob right, what do you tell him?
If I'm doing my job right.
SPEAKER_03 (30:23):
Well, if I if I'm doing my job well, you're you're
not going to need me anymore, atleast for the majority.
Again, not everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
And I tell them that.
It's like, I realize I'm workingmyself out of a job, but nothing
makes me more excited thantaking somebody off a
medication.
And am I really working myselfout of a job?
No, because if they don't reallyneed to see me other than you
know, an occasional whatever,but not a regularly, hey, how
are you doing this month?
There's somebody else that needsthis message.
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
So then I can spread this even farther, even wider.
So I love it.
I absolutely love it.
unknown (30:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
It is wonderful.
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Yeah.
And I know Jared and I haveexperienced that we have gotten
a lot of energy now.
I mean, I have as much energy asI did in my 20s and not so in my
40s.
I was pulling up the stool tocook my meals to the stove and
just making a lot of umadjustments to my life.
So basically sitting on thecouch or homeschooling my
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children from bed, like that,that's how bad my energy got.
It was hard for me to go up oneflight of stairs to tuck my kids
into bed at night.
It was so bad.
And no one could tell me whatwas going on.
And I seem to recall you sayingyou had the same thing with your
energy where you got a lot ofyour energy back.
What so what became possible foryou, Terry, in your life, um,
just regarding your God-givencalling that you never could
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have imagined when you weredealing with the pain and all
the other health struggles thatyou were dealing with back then?
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
Yeah, back then it was all that I could do to do my
job and just get through theday.
Because, you know, as women, wehave, if you work outside the
home, you have your regular joband then you come home, and then
there's house cleaning andclothes washing and dinner and
all of those things.
I just remember being in aperpetual state of
(32:09):
exhaustedness.
Yes.
Feeling like I needed a nap, youknow, during the day, which I
didn't get to do, but just beingso tired.
And um it's funny because once II went plant-based, and for me,
after watching that documentary,you know, I'd been through those
other things that I had tried.
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So I was still a littleskeptical.
Right.
Because when I did the otherprograms, Atkins and everything
else, I would lose a little bitof weight, 10, 15 pounds,
something like that.
Um, which was great, but nothingever addressed the acne or the
joint problems or the sleepingproblems or anything.
A little bit of weight was allthe results that I saw.
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So when I watched uh Fork SoftenKnives, I was like, okay, you
know, I'll give it a try.
Skeptical, but willing to do it100% because with the other
things I did 100% as well, atleast for a short period of
time.
Uh, I figure you can do anythingfor a short period of time.
And that was the only way I wasreally gonna see what changing
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my diet to a plant-based dietwould be capable of doing for
me.
So I said four weeks.
I told my husband I was gonna doit for four weeks, and um, I
started seeing results.
Two and a half weeks in, I wasfeeling so much better.
Yes.
Uh, and just excitement is whatit did.
I was feeling better, had moreenergy, uh, was able to come off
(33:33):
of the uh doxycyclean and thenighttime medicines and and
everything.
The one of the first things Isaw was, well, joints for sure,
but that uh I was sleepingbetter.
So all of that got me soexcited, it just made me want to
spread the message.
You know, it's like becoming aChristian, you want to spread
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the message so that others canknow your joy.
And so that is it sure is agreat analogy.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, I actually wasgonna go educate my physicians.
I, you know, I gave it sometime, I can't remember now, a
couple months or so.
And I wanted to go back, letthem do my blood work again and
see.
(34:14):
And I was just gonna say, you'vegot to tell your patients about
this because I've found the holygrail.
SPEAKER_00 (34:21):
You wanted them to have the same revelation that
you had had, but I remember thatthere was a surprise there when
you shared that with them.
SPEAKER_01 (34:27):
For sure.
Yeah, I thought that they weregonna be just so shocked and you
know, everything.
But it was it was a uh it was apractice that uh had a lot of
physicians that were Seventh dayAdventists.
So when I when they saw theresults and they said, What are
you doing?
And I said I went plant-basedand I was so excited and I
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wanted them to know, and theywere like, Oh yeah, you know, a
number of the physicians here inthis office are vegetarians, and
instead of me trying to educatethem, all of a sudden I actually
got a little miffed because Iwas thinking, why did you, if
that's the case and you saw mesuffering, why did you not offer
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that as a suggestion?
And um they said because at thattime there weren't a lot of
plant-based resources.
Forks over knives was the firstthing that I knew had been out.
And they said they felt likeeven if they, and they believed
in the power of eating plants,but even if they recommended it,
they didn't think the patientswould do it.
(35:34):
Uh, they didn't have anyresources to help them do it as
often.
So they just didn't even try.
SPEAKER_03 (35:41):
The person that created the DASH diet knew that
plant-based was best, but heintroduced some mean, some
dairy, and all that in therebecause he felt like people
wouldn't do it.
They needed some meat to satisfytheir palate.
I mean, that just is sointellectually dishonest.
SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
It is.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:58):
I mean, if you know this, then at least help people
so they have the option.
Yeah.
If they think that's the bestway, then that's what they're
gonna stick with.
Some of them, I mean, some ofthem aren't gonna do anything.
But some people like ourselves,if we knew, we would have jumped
in with that completely.
Right.
Completely.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
And it should be an option.
It should have been an option.
But they didn't have theresources.
That was the light bulb momentfor me that changed my career.
I think.
Because at that time I was theoffice manager and uh just for
regular business.
But when they said they did nothave uh any resources to help
patients, I decided then that Iwas gonna attempt to be that
(36:39):
resource.
So I started that's when Istarted taking, you know, the
classes uh through the uh Centerfor Nutrition Studies and uh
then applying to the physicianscommittee and everything because
I felt like um I could justlearn to teach it.
And then uh I would go to the uhmedical offices around,
(37:00):
including my own personalphysicians, and drop, and this
is what I did.
I dropped off batches ofplant-based cookies.
It's just so awesome, Terry.
I mean, it's so awesome.
I had I gave them cookies, Igave them the recipe so that
they could see what was in them.
I gave them uh my cards and Igave them information about the
(37:21):
classes that were coming up anduh where they were gonna be and
all of that kind of stuff.
And so that's where it started.
And that I didn't just do it formy own physician's office, I
went around town and just all ofthe I I had a heart for the
medical community because I feltlike that's where it needed,
that was going to be the tip ofthe sphere.
(37:41):
And so that's I could, you know,I I did teach at other
facilities too, but not much.
It was usually always hospitals,cancer centers, and then GI uh
doctor's offices.
So yeah, because I felt likethat's where we were, if we
could convince the physiciansand be the resource for their
patients, then that was going tomake all the difference.
And uh, and it did.
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That was how I got started, andin the meantime, started the the
website, and that was thebeginning for me is wanting to
break in, get my foot in thedoor.
I really didn't, I knew it wouldbe hard because the medical
community really is a hard umthing to break into and be
(38:23):
convinced.
But you know, I it was all God.
It truly was all God becauseafter even before I went for my
training in DC for thephysicians committee, I
contacted uh our localhospital's oncology.
Uh, it was Gibbs Cancer Centerin Spartanburg, South Carolina.
I'm in North Carolina, but welive on the state line.
It was the a large cancercenter.
(38:44):
And I thought, what if I couldget in to the cancer center to
teach?
Um, but I didn't have highhopes.
We have uh the physicsphysicians committee does have a
cancer series, so that's what Idid.
I shot out the email, found outwho I needed to talk to, shot
out the email, um, and theyresponded.
(39:06):
I could not believe it.
I didn't have a side, it was acold call.
Yeah.
Um, and uh, but they responded,and like I said, I had not gone
to training yet, but I knew Iwas going to be going for
training.
And the person who was overtheir community um program said,
Go do your training in DC, comeback and let's talk.
(39:27):
And so we went through multiplemeetings because um they had to
review all of the lectures,which were from Dr.
Neil Barnard, that's part of theprogram and the curriculum and
everything, and approve it.
And they did, and they got me inthere and they paid for it all.
They paid for their patients.
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
(39:48):
Yeah, it was through um grantmoney, their grant money uh paid
for those classes for years uhuh for me teaching those
classes.
So it was amazing.
Yes, uh, but that was gettingthe foot in the door.
And once I could say I had I wasteaching at Gibbs Cancer Center,
then other medical officesopened up to me and it was uh it
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was a big deal.
It was huge, and it's you know,it's part of my story.
And um yeah, and so and then thewebsite took off.
So when when COVID hit in 2020,we were in the middle, uh,
because those uh sessions at thecancer center were everywhere
that I taught were four classes.
So you went once a week for amonth, and uh it was March 2020,
(40:33):
and we finished our second classat the cancer center.
We had two more, and everythingshut down.
Um, of course, for the cancerpatients as well.
SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Oh, it's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
And I concentrated, you know, because that was a
little bit scary when you teachand you can't teach anymore.
Uh and so I already had mywebsite going and I really
concentrated on that, and Godblessed it.
People were worried about theirhealth and what they could do to
help uh them fight their immunesystems to fight off sickness.
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Yes, and um God just did histhing and the website took off.
And so now I don't teachregularly.
I'm still licensed, I can teach,but um yeah, it's a full-time
job doing the yes it is.
SPEAKER_00 (41:18):
It's helping what I do, and I know the leaders and
entrepreneurs that are listeningtotally get that.
And one thing I want to justpoint out is that you just
shared leadership goals.
So for everybody listening as aChristian leader, I want you to
understand what Terry has justtold you because instead of
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being discouraged when she foundout this revelation about her
doctors already knowing thatplant-based work and could have
helped her, she found she saw amassive gap in the market and
she filled it.
Opportunity.
An opportunity that she had toshare what was placed on her
heart or in her lap because Godshowed her what she needed to do
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when the doctors didn't.
SPEAKER_03 (42:03):
Friend, this brings us to the end of part one of our
conversation with the wonderfulTerry Edwards.
She shared so much wisdom today,and we're grateful you were here
with us to take it in.
SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Yes.
And before we wrap it up, youneed to know this.
Part two of this conversation isfilled with even more practical,
hope-filled insights to helpyour body move toward the level
of health that allows it tostart fully showing up for every
God-given opportunity withsteady energy and real joy.
SPEAKER_03 (42:30):
So be sure to tune in the moment part two drops.
You don't want to miss a singlebit of the additional
life-giving wisdom Terry shares.
SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
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SPEAKER_03 (43:19):
We're here for you every step of the way.
SPEAKER_00 (43:21):
And remember, you are loved, you are prayed for,
and we will see you again verysoon.
Maybe I'm not doomed to be like this for the rest of
my life.
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
Right.
Yes.
Yeah.
And you know, that was the scarypart before you realize you have
options, especially if you havea medical condition that runs in
your family, and then you beginhaving those symptoms and you
don't know that there's anyother way.
SPEAKER_00 (00:21):
Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast.
Are you tired of staring intothe fridge wondering what to eat
so you can just feel better?
Do you want to avoid spendinghours in the kitchen making
complicated meals in the name ofhealth?
Would you love to leave fatiguebehind and finally have the
energy to do all the things youwant to do?
(00:41):
Hi, we're Jared and Eatery SaleChristfollowers, healthcare
professionals, parents of four,and big fans of great tasting
food.
We too tried exercising more,eating natural and clean foods,
but we still found ourselvesstruggling with what we thought
were changes that come with ageor bad genes.
And we weren't finding answersto traditional route, so we dug
(01:01):
into the research and createdour secret nutritional weapon,
sustainable plant-based living.
The truth is you can eat morewhole plant foods, and it's not
hard.
You just need the way that'srealistic and delicious so you
never feel deprived.
If you're ready to enjoy yourmeals, no longer be held back by
your health struggles andactively live your life, then
(01:24):
you're in the right place.
So grab your favoriteplant-based cup of happy, pop in
those earbuds, and let's getstarted.
Hello and welcome to Power onPlants, where we help Christian
leaders and kingdomentrepreneurs to fuel your body
optimally with whole plant foodsso you can fully live your
God-given calling.
If you've been praying tofinally feel as strong as your
(01:46):
calling, so you can completelylive God's purpose for your life
with maximum energy, focus, andproductivity, take a deep
breath.
You're home now.
Today's guest, Terry Edwards, ishere to stir your faith and
remind you of all that'spossible with God's wisdom
leading the way.
Terry and I were introduced byour dear friend Sid Notter.
(02:08):
And from the very firstconversation, Terry felt like
family.
You know that kind of instantconnection you get that only God
can cause to happen.
That's what happened here.
Terry knows what it's like toface health challenges that make
you wonder if living your fullpotential is even possible.
But instead of giving up, shestarted seeking God's wisdom.
And that search led her todiscover simple, powerful truth
(02:31):
of his original plan fornourishing our bodies.
Her story is one of incredibletransformation.
Today she shares that message ofhope through her platform, Eat
Plant-Based, helping othersexperience lasting freedom and
restoration of health.
Terry's certified in plant-basednutrition through eCornell and
the T.
Colin Campbell Center forNutrition Studies and is a
(02:51):
licensed food for lifeinstructor with the Physicians
Committee for ResponsibleMedicine.
Get ready to be encouraged andequipped as Terry shares what's
possible when faith actuallymeets action, when we align our
lives with God's beautifuloriginal design for help.
Terry, we are so happy to haveyou here with us today.
(03:13):
Thank you.
I'm glad to be here.
Thank you for asking me toparticipate.
Yes, we have just loved thisconnection through Sid and
getting to know you more.
And we can't wait for everyoneto hear your story.
Now, many of our listeners arepurpose-driven leaders and they
keep showing up even whenthey're exhausted or hurting
because they care deeply aboutserving others.
(03:35):
Bring us into that season inyour mid-40s when you had a lot
on your plate and you werefacing health struggles and
looking for answers.
What did a typical day feel likefor you at that time?
SPEAKER_01 (03:49):
That was back in 2012.
Actually, my problem started 10years before that in my 30s.
I started having some um jointpain, mostly in my hands.
Um, that's it's so funny becauseyou know, a lot of folks have
joint pain and weight-bearingjoints, but mine started in my
(04:10):
hands and then progressivelyworsened over, you know, the
next 10 years.
35 years old is really young tostart with joint problems.
But a little backup for that isthat my mom has rheumatoid
arthritis, and so I knew aboutjoint problems and uh how
(04:32):
debilitating that can be becausemy mother has been, she's uh
almost 80 now, but she has beendisabled since she was 53.
Oh wow.
And yeah, and I have a sisterthat's only 16 months older than
me, and she developed RA uh aswell in her 50s.
So mine started, I mean, and Ihad not been diagnosed with RA.
(04:55):
I've been tested twice and cameback negative, but both my mom
and my sister had multiple teststhat came back negative before
it came back positive.
So um I just had that fear, youknow, that fear of I can see
where I am headed and it'sscary.
So, but in addition to the jointproblems, um I had other things
(05:19):
going on.
Um I had sleeping problems thatrequired me to take, at first it
was just melatonin.
And then, you know, when youtake something like that, you
have to keep upping uh themilligrams on it for it to be
effective.
And then I switched to, orsometimes alternated between
that and one of the um nighttimelike Tylenol or ibuprofen
(05:42):
nighttime things, and I had tohave something to help me sleep
every night.
Um, as well as I had adult acne,I was prescribed and was taking
doxycycline for years, guys.
For years for adult acne.
And I knew that that wasn'tgreat long-term either.
But, you know, um I had acnewhen I was younger and it just
(06:05):
did not go away and itprogressed.
It's it's tough when you're inyour 40s and you've got acne.
Yes.
But that's what you know, I wasdealing with.
And I was working um almost afull-time job.
I was an office manager at thattime for a local company in our
area, and just day to day, youknow, having to work and just
(06:27):
the duties at home, you know,even house cleaning and things
when your joints are hurting.
I remember leaning over thebathtub, and you know how you
you get on your knees and youscrub and just thinking, you
know, um, at that point, maybearound 40 years old, that I
wasn't going to be able to do itin 10 years or beyond.
(06:47):
And, you know, 55 is not thatold because I'm I am 58 now.
SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
So right.
That was a huge part of my storyas well.
I mean, I can totally identifywith that.
And I think a lot of people canto where you're just hurting,
and then you're told it's oldage or it's your genes, you
know, you're just getting older.
That's just what happens.
We're told so many things that Ifeel like just aren't true, and
we live into and start believingthose things, and then we get
(07:14):
afraid because some things starthappening and then fear takes
over, you know, and it's justit's this vicious cycle.
I mean, I was washing my hair inthe shower.
I tell the story about it andshare this a lot where I was
washing my hair and I was justcrying, tears rolling down my
face, thinking people arewashing their hair right now and
they're not even thinking aboutit.
Like there's so many things wetake for granted when we're not
(07:36):
having the struggles.
So I love what you're sharingbecause when you understand what
Jared says a lot of times, iswhen you know better, that's
when you can do better.
And that's why we're sopassionate, like you are, about
sharing.
Because we don't want people toeven end up in that place.
But if they do to realizethere's hope.
SPEAKER_03 (07:52):
And we want them to know that there is a possibility
of getting better, that youdon't have to stay like this
because that's their truth, butonly because they don't know the
full picture.
Yes.
And then when you have lightshed on the entire picture, then
it you can have that aha moment.
Maybe I'm not doomed to be likethis for the rest of my life.
SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
Right.
Yes, yeah.
And you know, that was the scarypart before you realize you have
options, especially if you havea medical condition that runs uh
in your family, and then youbegin having those symptoms and
you don't know that there's anyother way, it's scary.
It really is scary becauseyou're looking at your family
(08:34):
members and going, oh no.
And you know, we know 40s isyoung, guys, 50s is young.
Yes.
And if we live to be, you know,in our 90s, what you know, who
knows?
Or you don't even at that pointfor me, I was thinking I'm gonna
be lucky to for the next 10years to be still mobile.
(08:54):
Yes, but my aha moment was uhthe forks over knives um
documentary.
And I hear that from so manypeople, yes, because I think
that thing was uh was createdin, I might be wrong, but I
think around 2011, somethinglike that.
And so it was fairly new becauseum for me, you know, it was uh
(09:16):
2012 and it just had not, itdidn't take off.
I mean, I didn't know anythingabout it.
I would still, well, I probablyhopefully would by now, but at
that point it was my daughterwho was vegan for ethical
reasons, right?
And um, she was young, but shehad seen that documentary
somehow at college and suggestedthat I watch it, but I didn't
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right away because I didn't knowwhat it was about.
I truly had no idea.
I thought it was one of thosevideos where it was just about
the animals and you know,sadness and that, you know, and
I was like, I'm not watchingthat.
And forever.
And she kept saying, Mom, haveyou watched that video yet?
Because I think I didn't like, Idon't think I complained.
I hope I didn't complain, but Iwould tell her, you know, oh,
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something hurt or whatever.
And then she would say, Did youwatch it?
And you say, So I finally did.
And that is when that was myfirst introduction ever to
plant-based nutrition.
Before that, I had been going tothe doctor, um, trying to find
ways to deal with the jointpain, you know, the medicines
and everything.
And um nothing was just working.
(10:24):
And uh, so I I did try someother diet plans during that
time.
I did that Suzanne Summers, um,you know, where she was like
high protein.
It was like, and I did do Adkinstoo.
I did.
And at one point, you guys willlaugh at this because you're
medical uh trained, but I evenread the book Um How to Eat
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Right for Your Blood Type.
SPEAKER_00 (10:47):
Yes, and we've heard many people ask about that.
Yes, we've had many clients askabout that.
SPEAKER_03 (10:53):
When you're searching for answers, I mean
that search will take you well,desperate, but it's gonna take
you to a lot of differentthings.
And if you don't know, you don'tknow.
And so So you're willing to trywhatever.
SPEAKER_01 (11:08):
Right.
Yeah, it you know, now that Ilook back on it, I think, oh my
goodness, you know, but youknow, you truly are searching
and uh willing to try aboutanything, and that's the great
thing spaces.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
Yeah, you're at that place where you're willing to
try whatever, but we don't wantpeople to get in that place,
right?
Well, but we were, and so we cantake that knowledge and then be
able to share it with people sothat when you're listening to
this, realize and have hope.
I don't have to end up in theplace where Terry was or Anita
and Jared were hurting all thetime, struggling through the
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day, feeling like this is justhow it's gonna be, because there
are answers and there are thingsthat we know that from the
Bible, and just looking atGenesis 129, I mean, there's so
much more.
Look at Sid's book where shetalks about all the different
scriptures that point to a wholefeed plant-based diet.
But then we look at the sciencethat backs it up.
And we always say, where youfind the place where the Bible
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lines up with science, you havethe gold.
Because you shouldn't need thescience necessarily to prove it.
But when it does, I mean, whywouldn't we try it?
Why wouldn't we try it?
SPEAKER_03 (12:11):
And having read all those different diets, that's
part of your story.
And you can tell people, I readall these different diet plans,
and I know that the one that Ihave settled on is the correct
one, the one where it lines upwith scripture, but you're
you're getting the results, andthen you're living proof of it.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
And then you share it with other people, like you
share it with your sister, andyou see it working in her life,
and you share it and you startsharing with other people with
clients now, and you see liveschanging, and you think, you
know, this is undeniable now.
There's the proof you've seen itwith your own eyes, and it just
it makes a difference ineverything.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Yeah, it's our story now.
SPEAKER_00 (12:48):
It's our story, absolutely.
Well, if you could go back toyourself when you were 45 years
old and you could whisper onetruth to yourself at that point
when you were struggling withpain and the acne and extra
pounds as well, you shared withme.
I mean, you were exhausted, butstill pushing through the days,
just trying to get things done.
What would be one truth that youwould share with yourself back
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then?
SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
Um that there's hope and that God wants me well.
Yes, really.
Because, you know, I tell peoplethat uh so often in the
Christian community, where, youknow, for me, I'm just now kind
of breaking into the Christiancommunity with the plant-based
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message.
And um, I remember, I don'tknow, maybe three years ago, we
had just started going to a newchurch.
And there was a gentleman who isprobably about my age, maybe a
little bit older.
And they called, he actuallywent up, I think, at the end
because he needed prayer.
He had had a stroke, uh, he haddiabetes, he had all these
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things.
And I was new there.
I did not really know anybody,but I felt called after because
he went up for everybody to prayover him, which they did.
Um and shortly after as soon aschurch let out, I whispered to
my husband, I will be rightback, because I had some
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information in the car um fromthe physician's committee about
diabetes.
So I ran out there and I got it,and I went to him and he was
sitting in the pew, and youknow, people were kind of going
around and everything.
But I just knelt down and Isaid, God doesn't want you to be
sick.
So good.
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This this is some informationthat may be able to help you.
And I am here, I don't know you,but uh, I am here if you have
questions.
So I, you know, I just feel likeI don't, I'm so excited with the
just this last year and meetingyou guys and knowing Sid and
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others in the plant-basedcommunity who are believers.
It feels like we are finally, atleast for me personally, but I
just see the whole movementreally um coming out with our
faith and how it is so importantwith the way that we eat, our
health.
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Um I'm really excited for whatis going on right now and to see
where it ends up going.
I feel like uh God is on themove.
You know, I think about um theChronicles of Narnia, and they
say Aslan is on the move, um,and he represents Jesus in those
stories.
And I just feel like God is onthe move uh in the plant-based
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community reaching out because Iremember Sid telling me when I
first met her how um I don'tknow, maybe a little
disheartened that she was thatChristians weren't, even in her
church, uh in the Christiancommunities were not open uh to
plant-based uh nutrition.
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And it's early in the game forme anyway, as far as to see
where it's gonna go, but I'mseeing inklings of it where I
think God's running after hispeople.
SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
Absolutely.
Amen to that.
SPEAKER_03 (16:18):
And the revelation of that God wants us well is
huge, huge.
And I feel like the father hasreally opened our eyes about
that the last couple of years.
Not that we ever thought thatGod wanted us sick, but
sometimes we have that idea andit's perpetuated in our culture
that, well, this sickness isjust to keep you humble or God's
teaching you something.
Yes.
I mean, what father would notwant his children to be alive
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and healthy and vibrant?
SPEAKER_00 (16:42):
And he even says that in the word.
Yes.
Like even you, as parents, youknow, as a father, you want to
give good gifts to yourchildren.
How much more do I want to dothat for my children?
So that's his heart as wellness.
We look at Yeshua, Jesus, who'sthe pattern of everything that
father stands for, just lived itout completely and beautifully
for us, and he healed them all.
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It says it over and over andover again.
He healed them all.
SPEAKER_03 (17:09):
And we're not denying that sickness happens,
of course, because we live in afallen world.
SPEAKER_00 (17:14):
Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_03 (17:14):
So sin is still in effect on this earth.
Yes, but that's part of themessage of salvation.
God made a way to restore usback, and we want people to know
God wants you well.
He doesn't delight in you beingsick.
And I think if you can reallytake hold of that truth, then it
gives you hope.
And then you realize there issomething I can do.
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It's not just bad luck or badgenes.
It's not just I'm being smitedor whatever.
Right.
Yeah, it's this is where I am,but that's not where I have to
stay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:45):
And then just huge.
It is huge.
And spirit, soul, and body, hewants us well.
So we teach plant-based to eatyour body well, but we also
teach about getting yourthoughts and feelings and
desires right and in alignmentwith the kingdom of God, because
that's when you start to seereal healing on top of feeding
and stewarding your body withthese beautiful foods he's given
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us that taste better thananything we ever ate before.
You know, people are worriedabout, I mean, this is a real
concern.
How am I gonna just eat grass?
But when you learn and yourtaste buds get cleansed and you
no longer have those addictivechemicals drawing you back into
these foods that really weren'tmeant to fuel our body.
Food-like products, food-likeproducts, right?
Exactly.
Then, and we were talking thismorning about how you know you
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go out and you go for a bikeride or you go for a walk and
you don't see Cheez-Its hangingoff a tree or even oil.
Like there are no bottles of oilhanging off a tree.
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (18:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:41):
Yeah, it's amazing.
But like you were talking aboutthough, I love how you're
talking about how this person,you know, your heart went out to
them because they were there inthe church, really seeking for
God to heal them.
We all have that ability.
He can powerfully step in and hewants to powerfully step in.
But think about if he comes in,if he chooses and comes in right
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at that moment because you'reready, your faith is aligned,
you understand that he wants youwell, boom, you're healed.
But then if you keep living andstewarding your body in the same
way, I mean, he does say go andsin no more.
And I'm not saying that howwe're eating is a sin.
I mean, I'm not gonna addressall the different things that
people are doing because I don'tknow, you know, what you've done
up until this point.
And we love people, and ourheart is just for you to be
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well.
But we have to look at what gotus there.
Like, how did we get to theplace we were in our health?
And I know for us, we thought wewere clean eating, Terry.
Like when we were the sickest,and I told Jared, I think I'm
dying.
We were eating, like we weregoing to the farms and buying,
yeah, we were buying organic andfresh milk and pasture raised
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and cage-free and hormone foradded, no added hormones, not
knowing stuff was.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
I have an example to what I think you were explaining
about.
If if we get healed, if wecontinue those same habits,
what's going to happen?
Those things are gonna comeback.
So let's say you live in a houseand you have questionable habits
to where maybe you leave yourgas stove on all the time.
You know, something that's anobvious fire hazard, you burn
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your house down.
Now you get put into a brand newhome, it's completely restored.
If you keep those same habits,you're going to potentially burn
that house down again.
Yeah, you're going to keep thatcycle perpetuated.
So there's a balance that whereGod has set up the world with
specific principles in place,physical principles.
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And part of that is all thefoods he's given us to enjoy to
optimize our health and tooptimize our lifespan so that we
can bring his kingdom here anddo what he's called us to do and
do it effectively.
SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
Yeah, absolutely.
I remember seeing anillustration a long time ago.
You guys have probably seen it.
I'm not sure.
Seems like one of theplant-based physicians maybe put
it on social media or something,but it's a picture of a kitchen.
It's and you know, a drawingwith um an older man and woman
in there with a big farm sink.
SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (21:05):
And the water is running in the sink and it's
overflowing into the floor, andthey have mops and they're
mopping, but they don't turn thewater off.
That's a big one is that I guessalong with what you were saying,
Jared.
Um, if you if you don't turn thewater off, what's causing the
problem, right?
And you're just you're justcleaning constantly and not
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resolving the problem.
That is yeah, that's powerful.
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
Yeah, we're told that oh, that water in the sink,
that didn't matter.
That's normal, it's just part ofaging.
You know, the sink's going toeventually fill up and overflow.
Like, no, turn the sink off.
SPEAKER_01 (21:39):
Yeah, it just seems so simple.
You know, and I think about Ithink about creation.
And we know in the beginning,God gave from everything that we
know from the Bible, he gave theseeds and the plants to Adam and
Eve as food.
And for the animals, everythingwas plant-based.
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Yes.
Um and as you know, as far as weknow, the first death was of the
animal or animals that had todie to clothe Adam and Eve.
So we can assume and I believethat the you know, God had us
plant-based in the beginning,and when heaven comes down in
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the end, we will go back to thatperfection.
So in the middle, I think ofthose as two bookends creation
on one end and the end of timeson the other.
Yes.
And in between, we can eat anddo.
We, you know, it's I'm notsaying you know, people are
sinful for what the way thatthey eat or anything.
He gives us permission to eatwhatever that we want to, but if
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we know perfection on either endand what he designed us for, um
I don't know.
I I I just feel like that, andwe know just from our own
experiences, going plant-based,that's where health was found.
So um it just seems intuitive tome that that's what we would
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want to um aim for because Godknows best.
Yes, and he knows the ultimatecreator, he knows what he
created our bodies for.
So um yes, we have freedom, butwe also suffer the conf
consequences of um some of thatfreedom sometimes.
SPEAKER_00 (23:28):
I don't think he ever meant.
I mean, we can read the Bibleand see he never really meant
for or wanted animals to have todie to feed us.
Like that was a part, beautifulpart of his creation.
He didn't mean for them to haveto die to feed us, but like you
were saying, because of howthings happen, they had to die
to clothe people.
That was the first thing thathappened as a result of sin, the
death of the animals.
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And we don't do this for for theanimals' sake, so to speak, but
we do love and care for hiscreation and we want what's best
for it.
But he allows us, Jared and Ihave talked about this a lot.
God allows us to do a lot ofthings that weren't his original
design.
Like he allowed his people tohave kings, but he wants to be
the king of our life, you know.
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So people asked for that andthey wanted it.
So that's what he allowed themto have.
But we know that him being theking of our life is for our
ultimate best and for our good.
So yeah, I think that's soimportant to realize that.
And Jared, what the thing thatyou and Jared were both talking
about a minute ago, too, is thesink overflowing and all that.
Jared had come home, he was at auh conference for physician
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assistance.
SPEAKER_03 (24:35):
Continuing education conference.
SPEAKER_00 (24:37):
Yeah, and he came home and he looked at me and
said, I cannot do this anymore.
He said, Seriously, I just satin a conference for hours where
the doctor that was presenting,and he was very knowledgeable.
I'm not saying he wasn'tknowledgeable, but he talked
about if your blood pressure isthis, that if their blood
pressure is this, talking aboutyour patients.
If it's this number, you're givethem this medicine.
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And if it's this number, you getthis medicine.
SPEAKER_03 (25:03):
Depending on how high the blood pressure was, the
right type of medication, theright combinations.
And it just hit me we're notreally addressing the root
issue.
SPEAKER_02 (25:12):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
We keep talking about management, but never once
did we talk about the pathologyof what's going on underneath
the surface that's causing that.
Why don't we address that?
And at the time we weren'tplant-based, but I just knew
that in my heart something wasjust off and then stumbled upon
plant-based, and right aroundthat same time, kind of stumbled
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upon lifestyle medicine.
I thought, what is this?
And this is what I had beenlooking for, and wanted even in
my original education 25 yearsago, but they don't teach that.
I feel like maybe schools arestarting to make a little bit of
headway, but not nearly enough.
And then now we realize what, atleast for a large majority of
people, the root cause is, andit's what we're doing, those
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lifestyle choices that we'remaking.
SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
And we didn't go into medicine and nursing to
help people manage theirdiseases.
We wouldn't help it.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
I mean, we know that some diseases require that.
Right.
We live in an imperfect world,fallen, you know, imperfect
bodies and all that.
So there is some of that, butnot near as much as people
think.
SPEAKER_00 (26:12):
Yeah, we want to help people get set free where
they're off of their medicationsor at least on the lowest dose
possible.
And we see it happen time andagain.
Like that is what's normal whenyou get to the root cause of
these things.
Are you seeing the same thingwith your clients?
SPEAKER_01 (26:28):
Yeah, I actually don't uh I actually don't have
clients or anything.
I uh don't coach or anythinglike that.
But when I was teachingregularly at the hospitals, um
the physicians committee's foodfor life program.
Yes.
Yeah, we saw it all the timebecause we taught the I taught
those classes, all theinstructors do, like four in a
series.
So you did once a week, and wewould have the first session.
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I remember one time inAsheville, North Carolina, I was
teaching at a uh doctor'soffice, and uh we had the first
class, which involved, you know,preparing the food and they got
to eat the dinner andeverything, as well as the
nutrition education.
And uh I was new at teaching andso I just went by the
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curriculum, which was great, andeverything.
But when we came back to a weeklater to the class, one of the
participants was a lady,probably at that time in her
60s, maybe late 60s.
And she said that um she had hadan episode because uh she had
decided everybody in the classis gonna do something different.
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We don't require that you go100%.
We encourage it, um, at leastfor a trial period, because
that's how you're gonna see theresults.
But you don't know what eachperson is gonna do.
You know, you do the class andyou send them home.
Uh, but she came back and shehad been so convinced by the
first class that she was gonnado it 100%, which I was all for
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and encouraged, but she was onmedication, she was on uh heart
medication and diabetesmedication.
And when she went 100% for thoseseven days, it was so powerful
that she had an episode with thehyp hypoglycemic episode because
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her medicine was too powerful atthat point.
The food was working asmedicine, yes, and so it, you
know, to in my mind it was likedouble double medicating
herself.
Yes, and so she had to go to herdoctor and have her medication
reduced because the food wasworking uh in her favor for her
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health, and uh she saw itimmediately.
So after that class, I waswarned, uh, I knew at the first
session, uh the first class ofevery session, tell people who
were on medications you may needto have adjustments during this
time while you're doing this,because this is you know, it's
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it works like medicine.
So that was the first um, andthat was early in my teaching
career, the first time where Irealized because when I was uh I
wasn't when I when I did itmyself, I wasn't on all the
different uh medications likeshe was.
So that was the most powerfullesson that I learned and uh was
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able to share with people aboutthe power of food as working as
medicine.
Yes, and think about what agreat problem that is to have.
SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
I mean, don't you love offering people that
problem?
So it's yeah, you know, when youstart eating plants and you go
all in, here's the thing youwant to be followed by your
personal health care fitprovider in your local area.
That's what Jared and I tellpeople.
We're not gonna be drawing yourblood.
You need to have that happeningbecause you can get results so
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quickly.
That's how powerful these Godgiven foods are, right?
It's like you said.
It's your medicine.
See it like your medicine.
So if you are adding a newmedication, the other ones will
probably need to be adjustedsomewhat.
And we see people come off ofthem high blood pressure
medications, high cholesterol.
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IBS medications, rheumatoidmedications.
And Jared says, if I'm doing myjob right, what do you tell him?
If I'm doing my job right.
SPEAKER_03 (30:23):
Well, if I if I'm doing my job well, you're you're
not going to need me anymore, atleast for the majority.
Again, not everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (30:30):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
And I tell them that.
It's like, I realize I'm workingmyself out of a job, but nothing
makes me more excited thantaking somebody off a
medication.
And am I really working myselfout of a job?
No, because if they don't reallyneed to see me other than you
know, an occasional whatever,but not a regularly, hey, how
are you doing this month?
There's somebody else that needsthis message.
SPEAKER_02 (30:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (30:48):
So then I can spread this even farther, even wider.
So I love it.
I absolutely love it.
unknown (30:54):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (30:55):
It is wonderful.
SPEAKER_00 (30:56):
Yeah.
And I know Jared and I haveexperienced that we have gotten
a lot of energy now.
I mean, I have as much energy asI did in my 20s and not so in my
40s.
I was pulling up the stool tocook my meals to the stove and
just making a lot of umadjustments to my life.
So basically sitting on thecouch or homeschooling my
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children from bed, like that,that's how bad my energy got.
It was hard for me to go up oneflight of stairs to tuck my kids
into bed at night.
It was so bad.
And no one could tell me whatwas going on.
And I seem to recall you sayingyou had the same thing with your
energy where you got a lot ofyour energy back.
What so what became possible foryou, Terry, in your life, um,
just regarding your God-givencalling that you never could
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have imagined when you weredealing with the pain and all
the other health struggles thatyou were dealing with back then?
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
Yeah, back then it was all that I could do to do my
job and just get through theday.
Because, you know, as women, wehave, if you work outside the
home, you have your regular joband then you come home, and then
there's house cleaning andclothes washing and dinner and
all of those things.
I just remember being in aperpetual state of
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exhaustedness.
Yes.
Feeling like I needed a nap, youknow, during the day, which I
didn't get to do, but just beingso tired.
And um it's funny because once II went plant-based, and for me,
after watching that documentary,you know, I'd been through those
other things that I had tried.
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So I was still a littleskeptical.
Right.
Because when I did the otherprograms, Atkins and everything
else, I would lose a little bitof weight, 10, 15 pounds,
something like that.
Um, which was great, but nothingever addressed the acne or the
joint problems or the sleepingproblems or anything.
A little bit of weight was allthe results that I saw.
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So when I watched uh Fork SoftenKnives, I was like, okay, you
know, I'll give it a try.
Skeptical, but willing to do it100% because with the other
things I did 100% as well, atleast for a short period of
time.
Uh, I figure you can do anythingfor a short period of time.
And that was the only way I wasreally gonna see what changing
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my diet to a plant-based dietwould be capable of doing for
me.
So I said four weeks.
I told my husband I was gonna doit for four weeks, and um, I
started seeing results.
Two and a half weeks in, I wasfeeling so much better.
Yes.
Uh, and just excitement is whatit did.
I was feeling better, had moreenergy, uh, was able to come off
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of the uh doxycyclean and thenighttime medicines and and
everything.
The one of the first things Isaw was, well, joints for sure,
but that uh I was sleepingbetter.
So all of that got me soexcited, it just made me want to
spread the message.
You know, it's like becoming aChristian, you want to spread
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the message so that others canknow your joy.
And so that is it sure is agreat analogy.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, I actually wasgonna go educate my physicians.
I, you know, I gave it sometime, I can't remember now, a
couple months or so.
And I wanted to go back, letthem do my blood work again and
see.
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And I was just gonna say, you'vegot to tell your patients about
this because I've found the holygrail.
SPEAKER_00 (34:21):
You wanted them to have the same revelation that
you had had, but I remember thatthere was a surprise there when
you shared that with them.
SPEAKER_01 (34:27):
For sure.
Yeah, I thought that they weregonna be just so shocked and you
know, everything.
But it was it was a uh it was apractice that uh had a lot of
physicians that were Seventh dayAdventists.
So when I when they saw theresults and they said, What are
you doing?
And I said I went plant-basedand I was so excited and I
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wanted them to know, and theywere like, Oh yeah, you know, a
number of the physicians here inthis office are vegetarians, and
instead of me trying to educatethem, all of a sudden I actually
got a little miffed because Iwas thinking, why did you, if
that's the case and you saw mesuffering, why did you not offer
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that as a suggestion?
And um they said because at thattime there weren't a lot of
plant-based resources.
Forks over knives was the firstthing that I knew had been out.
And they said they felt likeeven if they, and they believed
in the power of eating plants,but even if they recommended it,
they didn't think the patientswould do it.
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Uh, they didn't have anyresources to help them do it as
often.
So they just didn't even try.
SPEAKER_03 (35:41):
The person that created the DASH diet knew that
plant-based was best, but heintroduced some mean, some
dairy, and all that in therebecause he felt like people
wouldn't do it.
They needed some meat to satisfytheir palate.
I mean, that just is sointellectually dishonest.
SPEAKER_02 (35:57):
It is.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (35:58):
I mean, if you know this, then at least help people
so they have the option.
Yeah.
If they think that's the bestway, then that's what they're
gonna stick with.
Some of them, I mean, some ofthem aren't gonna do anything.
But some people like ourselves,if we knew, we would have jumped
in with that completely.
Right.
Completely.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
And it should be an option.
It should have been an option.
But they didn't have theresources.
That was the light bulb momentfor me that changed my career.
I think.
Because at that time I was theoffice manager and uh just for
regular business.
But when they said they did nothave uh any resources to help
patients, I decided then that Iwas gonna attempt to be that
(36:39):
resource.
So I started that's when Istarted taking, you know, the
classes uh through the uh Centerfor Nutrition Studies and uh
then applying to the physicianscommittee and everything because
I felt like um I could justlearn to teach it.
And then uh I would go to the uhmedical offices around,
(37:00):
including my own personalphysicians, and drop, and this
is what I did.
I dropped off batches ofplant-based cookies.
It's just so awesome, Terry.
I mean, it's so awesome.
I had I gave them cookies, Igave them the recipe so that
they could see what was in them.
I gave them uh my cards and Igave them information about the
(37:21):
classes that were coming up anduh where they were gonna be and
all of that kind of stuff.
And so that's where it started.
And that I didn't just do it formy own physician's office, I
went around town and just all ofthe I I had a heart for the
medical community because I feltlike that's where it needed,
that was going to be the tip ofthe sphere.
(37:41):
And so that's I could, you know,I I did teach at other
facilities too, but not much.
It was usually always hospitals,cancer centers, and then GI uh
doctor's offices.
So yeah, because I felt likethat's where we were, if we
could convince the physiciansand be the resource for their
patients, then that was going tomake all the difference.
And uh, and it did.
(38:02):
That was how I got started, andin the meantime, started the the
website, and that was thebeginning for me is wanting to
break in, get my foot in thedoor.
I really didn't, I knew it wouldbe hard because the medical
community really is a hard umthing to break into and be
(38:23):
convinced.
But you know, I it was all God.
It truly was all God becauseafter even before I went for my
training in DC for thephysicians committee, I
contacted uh our localhospital's oncology.
Uh, it was Gibbs Cancer Centerin Spartanburg, South Carolina.
I'm in North Carolina, but welive on the state line.
It was the a large cancercenter.
(38:44):
And I thought, what if I couldget in to the cancer center to
teach?
Um, but I didn't have highhopes.
We have uh the physicsphysicians committee does have a
cancer series, so that's what Idid.
I shot out the email, found outwho I needed to talk to, shot
out the email, um, and theyresponded.
(39:06):
I could not believe it.
I didn't have a side, it was acold call.
Yeah.
Um, and uh, but they responded,and like I said, I had not gone
to training yet, but I knew Iwas going to be going for
training.
And the person who was overtheir community um program said,
Go do your training in DC, comeback and let's talk.
(39:27):
And so we went through multiplemeetings because um they had to
review all of the lectures,which were from Dr.
Neil Barnard, that's part of theprogram and the curriculum and
everything, and approve it.
And they did, and they got me inthere and they paid for it all.
They paid for their patients.
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
(39:48):
Yeah, it was through um grantmoney, their grant money uh paid
for those classes for years uhuh for me teaching those
classes.
So it was amazing.
Yes, uh, but that was gettingthe foot in the door.
And once I could say I had I wasteaching at Gibbs Cancer Center,
then other medical officesopened up to me and it was uh it
(40:08):
was a big deal.
It was huge, and it's you know,it's part of my story.
And um yeah, and so and then thewebsite took off.
So when when COVID hit in 2020,we were in the middle, uh,
because those uh sessions at thecancer center were everywhere
that I taught were four classes.
So you went once a week for amonth, and uh it was March 2020,
(40:33):
and we finished our second classat the cancer center.
We had two more, and everythingshut down.
Um, of course, for the cancerpatients as well.
SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Oh, it's awesome.
SPEAKER_01 (40:42):
And I concentrated, you know, because that was a
little bit scary when you teachand you can't teach anymore.
Uh and so I already had mywebsite going and I really
concentrated on that, and Godblessed it.
People were worried about theirhealth and what they could do to
help uh them fight their immunesystems to fight off sickness.
(41:03):
Yes, and um God just did histhing and the website took off.
And so now I don't teachregularly.
I'm still licensed, I can teach,but um yeah, it's a full-time
job doing the yes it is.
SPEAKER_00 (41:18):
It's helping what I do, and I know the leaders and
entrepreneurs that are listeningtotally get that.
And one thing I want to justpoint out is that you just
shared leadership goals.
So for everybody listening as aChristian leader, I want you to
understand what Terry has justtold you because instead of
(41:39):
being discouraged when she foundout this revelation about her
doctors already knowing thatplant-based work and could have
helped her, she found she saw amassive gap in the market and
she filled it.
Opportunity.
An opportunity that she had toshare what was placed on her
heart or in her lap because Godshowed her what she needed to do
(42:01):
when the doctors didn't.
SPEAKER_03 (42:03):
Friend, this brings us to the end of part one of our
conversation with the wonderfulTerry Edwards.
She shared so much wisdom today,and we're grateful you were here
with us to take it in.
SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Yes.
And before we wrap it up, youneed to know this.
Part two of this conversation isfilled with even more practical,
hope-filled insights to helpyour body move toward the level
of health that allows it tostart fully showing up for every
God-given opportunity withsteady energy and real joy.
SPEAKER_03 (42:30):
So be sure to tune in the moment part two drops.
You don't want to miss a singlebit of the additional
life-giving wisdom Terry shares.
SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
And in the meantime, if you've been hoping for
ongoing encouragement, simplewhole food plant-based guidance,
and the community that trulycheers you on, you're invited to
join us inside Peak PerformanceNetwork at poweronplants.com
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This is the special place forthose who want to feel good
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SPEAKER_03 (43:19):
We're here for you every step of the way.
SPEAKER_00 (43:21):
And remember, you are loved, you are prayed for,
and we will see you again verysoon.
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