December 9, 2025 • 38 mins
If your ENERGY is capped, your IMPACT is capped… and you know it.
Part 2 of our conversation with Terri Edwards is your roadmap to unlocking the health, clarity, and stamina you need to fully execute your God-given assignment without dieting, deprivation, or complicated routines.
Because here’s the truth leaders don’t say out loud:
You can have all the vision in the world…But if your body is tired, inflamed, foggy, or running on fumes, your calling gets bottlenecked.
And it doesn’t have to stay that way.
INSIDE PART 2, YOU’LL HEAR:
• How Terri went from exhausted + in pain → to energized and operating in her calling
• The daily alignment practice that keeps leaders sharp, focused, and Spirit-led
• The mindset shift that unlocks optimal health and fully empowered leadership
• How simple whole plant meals (not dieting!) restore energy fast
• Why your healing becomes your greatest multiplier in business + ministry
This episode is not about “being healthier someday.”
It’s about removing the physical limits slowing down your mission — now — with the simple strategies any purpose driven Christian can actually follow.
If you’re ready to have crystal clear mental clarity, 10x your productivity, lead at maximum capacity, and feel GOOD in your body again…
🎧 Listen to Part 2 now and reclaim the energy your assignment requires.
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SPEAKER_02 (02:46):
Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast.
Are you tired of staring intothe fridge wondering what to eat
so you can just feel better?
Do you want to avoid spendinghours in the kitchen making
complicated meals in the name ofhealth?
Would you love to leave fatiguebehind and finally have the
energy to do all the things youwant to do?
(03:07):
Hi, we're Jared and Eatery'sCell Christfollowers, healthcare
professionals, parents of four,and big fans of great tasting
food.
We too tried exercising more,eating natural and clean foods,
but we still found ourselvesstruggling with what we thought
were changes that come with ageor bad genes.
And we weren't finding answersthe traditional route, so we dug
(03:27):
into the research and createdour secret nutritional weapon,
sustainable plant-based living.
The truth is you can eat morewhole plant foods, and it's not
hard.
You just need the way that'srealistic and delicious so you
never feel deprived.
If you're ready to enjoy yourmeals, no longer be held back by
your health struggles andactively live your life, then
(03:50):
you're in the right place.
So grab your favoriteplant-based cup of happy, pop in
those hair buds, and let's getstarted.
Welcome back.
Today we're diving into part twoof our conversation with the
wonderful Terry Edwards.
And I want to say this up front.
If you have not yet heard partone, hit pause right now and go
back.
Not because you should, butbecause part one was packed with
(04:12):
some serious leadership gold.
If you've been praying for a newstrength, clear direction, or
the energy to fully show up forthe opportunities God keeps
placing on your heart, part oneis the foundation that unlocks
it.
SPEAKER_00 (04:25):
But if you did hear part one, then buckle up because
part two goes straight to theheart of the breakthrough.
Terry shares the wisdom leadersneed when the journey gets
discouraging.
How to hear God in the middle ofa health struggle and a
perspective shift that can turnyour deepest value into the
exact place where your callingcomes alive.
This is the kind of conversationthat lights up your faith,
(04:46):
strengthens your resolve, andreminds you exactly why your
life and mission matter.
SPEAKER_02 (04:51):
All right, let's dive in.
What Terry shares next ispowerful, and it begins right
here.
So for everybody listening as aChristian leader, I want you to
understand what Terry has justtold you because instead of
being discouraged when she foundout this revelation about her
doctors already knowing thatplant-based work and could have
(05:13):
helped her, she found she saw amassive gap in the market and
she filled it.
An opportunity.
An opportunity that she had toshare what was placed on her
heart or in her lap because Godshowed her what she needed to do
when the doctors didn't.
So she's determined, shedetermined at that point
basically to be an entrepreneurthat offered health solutions,
(05:37):
walking straight into themedical facility and doing what
Jared and I call taste and see,right?
She walks in with her cookiesthat smelled so good.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
And the brilliance of that is you were doing the
exact same thing that the drugreps would do bring samples and
literature.
You brought cookies and recipes.
That's what made me think of it.
Yeah.
You're following the exact samemodel and it worked.
SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
And just saying, I'm going to be the resource that's
missing in this broken system.
So that strategic move is whateventually placed you as a go-to
expert teaching plant-basednutrition, like you said, in the
local cancer centers and nowcreating your blog where you
reach a lot of people.
So what we love most about howGod took what the enemy wants to
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use to silence you, the painthat you went through, the acne,
the rheumatoid symptoms that waspreventing you from holding
hands, and then the exhaustionthat stole your joy.
And it weaponized, you know,that what was going on.
God weaponized that into yourgreatest mission.
And I think that's so awesomejust to think about it's your
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ministry now.
So what would you say to leaderswho are walking through their
own health valley right now, notrealizing that their
breakthrough could become thefuel for whatever God has placed
onto their hearts to do?
SPEAKER_01 (06:59):
Well, what do you think?
I would just say always bewatching and listening.
God's always talking.
I don't think he's silent.
I think he's with us 24-7,encouraging us to go this way or
that way.
The question is, are welistening?
SPEAKER_03 (07:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
That really is key.
For me, it's starting my dayevery day in my devotions and
prayers and asking him to openmy ears and open my eyes for the
opportunities that he's going topresent today, because he's
going to present some.
They're there.
And we just have to be lookingfor them because he'll guide us.
(07:40):
He says in his word that he hasa purpose for every one of us.
And I don't think that meansjust in our lifetime.
I think that means daily.
Yes.
There's if you're if we'rebreathing, there's a purpose.
Yes.
So what is that purpose?
Have you asked him today?
What is his purpose for youstill being able to breathe?
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And there's opportunities aroundall of us if we're open to him.
Yes.
And I think that that's keybecause what he wants us to do
sometimes is not what we want todo.
Absolutely.
I would have probably chosenwhat he has done in my life from
the beginning.
I would have been afraid.
I would have thought, I can't dothis, they're not going to
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listen.
I would have been like Mosessaying, I don't want to do it,
or all of the great people inthe Bible who were just like, I
can't do this.
And God's like, Of course youcannot do this.
He can do this through you.
If you will just be attentive,listen, and submit, daily.
So the opportunities are there.
I think it comes down to howclose are we walking with him
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and can we hear him?
Because he has a plan.
And that's in every one of ourlives.
I'm not special.
I just couldn't have picturedthis, but I'm available.
I think that's the kid as youmeet with him, saying, I'm
available, just like Mary didwhen the angel came and told her
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that she was going to have ababy, and she had never even
been with a man.
And that would have meantstoning and everything else to
her.
But she said, I'm available forhis will, basically.
Be it unto me as God wishes.
And that's really the attitudewe all need to have, and then
just be looking and not with ano on our tip of our tongue.
(09:28):
But you can be rocked by some ofthe things he may ask you to do,
but don't say no.
Just say I'm available.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
Because if he's calling you to it, he's going to
equip you.
And it doesn't necessarily meanit's not going to be a bumpy
ride, but he's going to be thereto equip you to do that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:43):
Yes.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And even like for me, I left myjob when I was teaching, even
before I had the income fromteaching that my previous job
had provided, but I felt likethat that was the way that I was
supposed to go.
And then you run into anotherbump when COVID hits and I can't
teach anymore.
But God's faithful.
(10:05):
Like you said, Jared, it doesn'tmean it's all going to be easy,
but it does mean he is there andwill bring you through every
single step.
Don't think of every problem asa, oh no, now it's going to
crash.
Think of each problem as a okay,God, where do I go now?
He'll open another door to youbecause the other one wasn't
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going to take you where hewanted you to go anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (10:28):
I would even suggest some of those bumps are in the
road or the enemy trying toprevent you from doing what
God's called you to do.
Absolutely.
It's like, nope, I'm going toovercome this struggle because
on the other side of this layssomething amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
And I feel like for me, I struggled a lot of times
with trying to go and do thethings and trying to figure
stuff out on my own without justspending time at his feet,
falling in love with him, havingthe relationship that Jesus died
to bring us.
That's exactly why he came todie.
He had to deal with sin, butthat wasn't his main purpose in
coming, except for the fact thatit moved sin out of the way.
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Because sin had to be moved outof the way in order for the
purpose to be fulfilled.
And his whole purpose was tobring us back into right
relationship with Father, thatwe have the privilege of having
every day of coming into hispresence, talking to him, asking
him to lead us and guide us.
And according to John 17, 3,that's a very definition of
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eternal life.
And it starts here on thisearth, that one-on-one intimacy.
It's not about religion.
SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
It's here on earth as it is in heaven.
SPEAKER_02 (11:30):
Yes, that relationship, letting his
kingdom come through us.
And we can't do that trying tofigure it out on our own.
We have to get at his feet andget what Jared said, his
marching orders, his lovinginstructions of the Father that
he wants to give us for thatday.
And it's exactly what Jesus did.
That's how he started hismornings and continued his day.
You know, I don't do anything, Idon't hear the Father say.
(11:51):
So pattern.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I I pray in the mornings becauseone specific thing that I asked
for in the prayers is because Ideal with so many people.
And some people are kind, somepeople are not kind in different
situations, whether it'svirtually like we are right now,
or whether it is onlineanswering comments and emails
and all that kind of stuff.
Right.
And I'm representing my creator.
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Even in the plant-based worldwhere other people are looking
to me for recipes and for healthinformation, I'm still
representing my creator.
So I always pray in the morningsfor God to set a guard for my
mouth and keep watch at the gateof my lips that everything that
I would say, whether through mykeyboard or on the phone or
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whatever, would be for hisglory.
That is good.
SPEAKER_02 (12:41):
That's so good, sister.
I love that.
That is such good advice.
Just submit every day.
Yes.
And when we're surrendered tohim and he can take our hands
and our mouths and our minds anddo that creative process through
us because we were created tocreate things, but to bring his
kingdom come on earth as it isin heaven.
He wants that to happen throughyour life as a leader and
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through our lives as leaders.
And anyone who's listening as aleader, it's not just about
teaching plant bases.
What's God called you to do?
What's your mission?
And it can have a ripple effect.
That's why we're so passionateabout getting that one-on-one
relationship right with God,having the bread of life and the
living water, and then gettingthe foods to steward your body
well, the way God optimallyintended from the very
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beginning.
And when those things align, youstart to see life come into your
life and you think feel better,then what will that finally
allow you to do?
SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
Because it's not just about feeling better.
Yes.
It's not just about lookingbetter.
I mean, those are nice, but whatwill that then allow you to do?
Fulfill that calling.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
And even the next step to that then is the ripple
effect that it has on peoplearound you because sometimes
when you start eatingplant-based or living in kingdom
ways, what happens is the peoplearound you start to notice.
And at first they may seem likethey don't like it and they may
seem resistant to it.
You're not doing it to makesomebody else do something, like
always focus on yourself andwhat God's shown you to do.
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And sometimes that meansstanding up and doing the hard
thing when there are otherpeople around you that aren't
quite supportive.
But you have to realize thatwhen they hit a wall in
something, they're gonna callwho?
Who are they gonna call?
unknown (14:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:18):
Yeah.
So, like with us, we work withpeople with help.
When they hit a wall with help,who are they calling?
They're calling us.
And it's the same thing with youas a leader.
When somebody hits a wall inthat thing, are you gonna be
prepared?
Are you gonna be ready becauseyou spent time at your master's
feet?
And because you now have fueledyour body in the way that you
can actually show up because youfeel good.
And you know, you just all thesedifferent things that you've
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been released from that theenemy was using to keep you
stuck.
Now you've replaced those foodsand those things that were
sabotaging you with the thingsthat put life in your body,
these life-giving foods.
SPEAKER_00 (14:50):
So too, your life just lived out is a witness that
you have the truth.
So when they're seeking thetruth, they intuitively know
where to come to get directionfor that.
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
And then there's the ripple effect, which is what I
want to ask you about.
So, with your sister, when shefound out she was dealing with
rheumatoid, what happened withthat?
And how did that make you feelbeing able to offer something to
your family that you couldn'thave offered before?
SPEAKER_01 (15:19):
Yeah, that was a funny story.
My sister and I are very closeand we don't live that far from
each other.
So we spend a lot of timetogether.
And she watched me healing as Iwent on this journey.
And we do a lot of familyget-togethers, and there's a lot
of country cooking.
We live in the south.
There's just right, right.
We get it.
Same here.
(15:39):
And so when I'm going to thesethings and taking different food
and everything, it's just sortof like, oh, whatever you would
need to do for you, kind of athing.
Right.
But there was support, but notreally, you know, because they
they just it was things theyweren't familiar with with food.
But as they saw me get better, Ididn't even have to preach at
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them about, and I had decidednot to, not to try to convert
them to eating the way that I'meating because I figured the
visual effect was going to be somuch better.
Yes.
And so they watched me get well,lose weight, get everything
under control.
And then they started askingquestions about what I was
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doing.
And my sister was so happy forme.
She'd suffered with a lot of thesame medical issues that I did,
and she was so happy, but shenever made an attempt to try to
ask me how she could do it.
Because, come to find out, she'salways been known as the
vegetable hater in our family.
Oh, because she didn't eat verymuch.
It was all fried chicken.
(16:41):
Yes, yes, we get it.
But yeah, she said she couldn'tdo it.
She said that um she couldn't,there wouldn't be enough food
for her to survive on becauseshe liked her ham and she liked
her chicken and her burgers andall of those things.
So she didn't think that therewas any hope.
Right.
But we get together on Sundayafternoons at my mom's house,
and so one Sunday afternoon wewere talking about it, and I
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said, Surely you don't hate allvegetables.
And she said, No, pretty much Ido.
So I asked her if she could justname a few that she did like,
and there were there weren'tmany.
She liked pickles and potatoes.
But as I questioned her, therewere things she still does not
like mushrooms.
There was a lot of things shedidn't like, but there was
enough.
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She actually likes broccoli.
She could not stand Brusselssprouts, things like that.
But there's with all of thevariety of vegetables and fruits
and beans and grains, there wasplenty.
We made we sat down and madelists, and there was plenty.
And I remember her being veryexcited that day because she
thought, well, she might couldsee some of the same results
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that I was seeing after all.
After she had pretty muchthought that there was no
possible way, and she had itrunning.
She and I both have apersonality where we go in 100%
at something, and she did, andshe did so well.
She came off of all she was evenon anxiety medicine.
And I'm not saying that you'llalways be able to do that, but
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she came off of her anxietymedications, and she just did
wonderfully.
She lost weight, she gothealthy, and she actually helps
me develop recipes now.
And I wish a lot of recipes onthe website are from her.
She develops plant-basedrecipes, and I still kip her
because she was the vegetablehater of the family.
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That's it.
And now, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
And probably what she what she probably didn't
realize though is that she's notnecessarily gonna be that way
for the rest of her life.
Like in that moment, sheprobably never conceived of I
might actually like Brusselssprouts one day.
SPEAKER_01 (18:41):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (18:42):
Yes, they think it's always gonna be just this narrow
range of foods that they like,and so they become resistant.
And I get it.
I mean, it I I don't know iffear is the right word, but
there's some concern there.
unknown (18:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
Then once they can start seeing the changes and oh
wow, I actually kind of likethese vegetables now.
When I didn't before, then theysee that just there's a whole
wide world of foods that willopen up for them.
SPEAKER_01 (19:06):
Yeah.
I think she found, and a lot ofpeople find that maybe they
tried a particular vegetable orsomething cooked a certain way,
like with Brussels sprouts,maybe they boiled them like they
used to do.
I didn't care for Brusselssprouts myself before.
And so you decide I do not likeBrussels sprouts, and you never
eat them again.
But maybe you haven't had themroasted and glazed with some
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balsamic.
So there are so many differentways, and then you find out they
actually are good.
It was just one time that youtried a preparation, yeah, and
then you wip them off whenthat's that's a whole different
ball game with different cookingmethods, and she found the same
thing.
SPEAKER_02 (19:47):
And then your taste buds change, yeah, or maybe they
weren't fresh, like Jared said,but your taste buds also change.
Like I never knew broccoli wassweet before, and now you can
taste the sweetness.
So there's so many differentthings about why you might like
something you thought you neverliked, and it could even become
one of your favorites.
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
It could.
And I think a lot of people,maybe, and and my sister was one
of them, had been eating in thepast or trying and deciding they
didn't like something, likebroccoli and things things that
were overcooked.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
Yes, yeah, especially in the south.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Yeah, and they're just mushy and they are dark
looking and are not appetizing.
But if you put them in a stirfruit where they still have a
little bit of crunch and a lotof color, that's a whole
different ballgame.
And that's one thing my sisterfound out that she actually does
like broccoli.
She just she likes it in a stirfry.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (20:38):
It's just little things that make a huge
difference.
Absolutely.
Just sometimes those littletweaks can be the big change
that you need.
And I know you were saying yourdoctors thought that this
lifestyle might be part of itwas that they didn't have the
resources, and part of it wasthat they felt like people just
wouldn't do it.
Maybe they didn't have adequatesupport system.
So, what would you tell busyleaders who think this lifestyle
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might require too much time ortoo much complexity for their
demanding schedule?
SPEAKER_01 (21:06):
I think that the key is doing a lot of research.
For me, staying on course,especially in the beginning, was
reading the books and watchingthe documentaries because that
works as a catalyst to help keepthe interest and show and
convince you what is possible ifyou try this.
And then for me, as far assticking with it and that it was
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worth the effort, was trying itand seeing the results and
realizing that well, one,everything actually did taste
good.
There was a lot of trial anderror.
I'm not gonna say every recipethat I tried was delicious, but
I was convinced enough that Iwas going to stick with it.
Right.
But the results were what werethe thing for me.
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I would not go back to thehealth that I had before ever.
I would eat cardboard if I hadto, but not really, but you know
what I mean.
I would just the results wereall that I needed to be my
motivation and mystick-to-it-ness.
And then within that, one, thegoal is to stay well and not be
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in pain.
And then two, you learn to getcreative with the foods and
things.
So to me, making the differentfoods and learning how to do
that was like an experiment.
It was almost like science andart all coming together.
Yes.
The science part was thenutrition, and the art was
making food look appealing andbe beautiful.
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Because even now, I mean, myfamily and my husband's family,
we get together so much.
And with the holidays coming up,I have to make things that look
appealing that they won't eventry them.
Because we have a lot of familyget togethers here, and people
bring dishes.
And so there is a baked ham inmy kitchen sitting beside, you
know, my vegan meatloaf or mylentil shepherd's pie.
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So the food has to lookappealing to compete with that.
And it's like a it's almost likean assignment for me to try to
at least try it and see that itit's actually good.
I would just say be motivated bythe results and stay motivated
by educating yourself throughbooks and documentaries and
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everything to and it gets easierand easier over time.
SPEAKER_02 (23:24):
Just realizing that it does not have to be complex,
though.
I feel like like maybe theylistened to you, Terry, and they
said, I don't have time to makean experiment.
Like I need to know what to do.
Well, you can do that.
I mean, Jerry and I have acourse where you teach people
like step one, step two, stepthree, and it just makes it so
much quicker and so much easier.
And you have tons of recipes toget them started.
We have the cookbook as well.
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So there's so many opportunitiesthat if you get plugged in to
the right space to be able tosave time, what's one thing that
you've done that's helped you tostreamline things for you so
that's not complex?
And would you say, maybe this iseven the more important
question, would you say ingeneral that now looking at it,
is it harder than what you weredoing before?
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And is it more complex?
Does it take you more time nowthan it did before?
SPEAKER_01 (24:12):
No, it everything becomes routine.
Once you change the way that youcook, it just becomes routine
and you keep things in yourrefrigerator in your cabinet at
all times where if you're havinga busy day and you know you're
not going to have a lot of timeto make dinner, there are those
handful of recipes that you keepthe ingredients on hand, and
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there are recipes that take like15 minutes, whether it's black
bean chili or something that youcan pull together.
It's easy to drive right pastthose fast food restaurants
because you know, even thoughyou're exhausted when you get
home in 15 minutes, you can havedinner.
unknown (24:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
We joke about it all the time.
We laugh.
We're like by the time I wouldstop and sit in line and order
the food and get home, I couldhave easily had the meal cooked
and eaten and it would have mademe feel good.
But not only that, for me, tasteis huge.
I'm so picky about recipes andtaste.
And we went through some thatwere, it was a struggle for us.
We were thinking, okay, if thisis what it's gonna be, this is
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not gonna work.
But being picky has served mewell with served Jared well
because he gets to be the tastetest.
SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
I'm the beneficiary of her pickiness.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
That's what he said.
He gets to taste test moretimes.
But I mean, it's so nice whenyou can have those things that
are not complex.
And the reality of the situationis that we believe the lie, that
this is complex, it's hard, andit takes a lot of time.
But just like you're saying, itbecomes your new routine and you
have those things you alreadymake.
I think, is it Dr.
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Bernard that said they're ninethat you eat on repeat?
Wheelhouse.
Well, if you're doing that, soyou have your wheelhouse
recipes, then would it not besimple to just start out with a
new nine?
So that's what we talk about.
Just finding your new favoriteculinary expert.
SPEAKER_00 (25:51):
Yes, and that's that's 300 recipes.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
That's solid foundation.
So, Terry, what would you sayare your three go-to favorite
whole food plant-based mealsthat you can execute
consistently on repeat and youlove them?
SPEAKER_01 (26:07):
Yeah, we have certain ones that we eat very
regularly.
One is nachos, and we make adinner.
We're not talking about likenachos with just the cheese
thing, but it's a full-hardymeal with the filling, which is
like a taco filling I make withbulgur and beans and
fire-roasted tomatoes, and thenwith my cheese sauce.
I keep cheese sauce on the onhand all the time.
I just make triple batches of itand keep some in the freezer.
(26:30):
And so we do nachos on a regularbasis, especially if we're
having company, becauseeverybody can top theirs with
whatever that they want, and itjust is very versatile.
We have a lot of company that'snot plant-based, and that's one
dish that goes over well.
SPEAKER_02 (26:45):
So, you have a favorite chip that you like to
use?
Do you normally make them, or doyou have one that you found that
just has better ingredients?
SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
I just make them.
It's just so easy to make if youkeep the corn tortillas on hand
to just slice them with a pizzaslicer and spritz them with a
little lime sauce and a littleseasoning on them and bake them.
It just is so simple to do.
You could even serve the nachoson top of a bed of greens.
You really could.
Or pizza.
Because even what we're doingnachos, we do greens on top, we
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do purple onions on top, and wedo olives too.
So it's just a wonderful,hearty, colorful setup.
We do the black bean burgers agood bit with the chipotle sauce
because um they're just reallysimple to make and very good and
very filling.
There's all that fiber becausethey're made with black beans
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and with whole oats.
So that's another one.
And my easy go-to one is justdoing a vegetable grain bowl.
Normally for us, it's brownrice, but you could do anything,
any kind of whole grain that youwanted to.
And then, like I've got sweetpotatoes in the oven right now.
So we'll do brown rice, thenwe'll have baked sweet potatoes
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on top of it, and then you canmix it up.
If you want to add some blackbeans or some other kind of
beans, you can fresh cilantra,lime juice squeezed over the
top, and then we use tahinesometimes to season it or other
seasonings that you might wantto do.
But talk about delicious, andwe'll probably slice avocados
and have those on the side aswell.
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But that's a quick we alwayshave brown rice on hand, but
then you could do faro or anyother grain that you enjoy and
mix it up, mix it up with thevegetables.
You could just buy frozen mixedvegetables, whether it's the
Asian ones, not the ones withthe sauce, but just frozen
vegetables and steam those.
Most of them you can just steamand put them with some soy sauce
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and a few seasonings.
Again, I love cilantra, but Iknow some people don't, but
that's my go-to.
Or just chop up some greens andsome fresh onions to go on top.
There's just simple ways to havea very filling and healthy,
healthy meal that will sustainyou through the whole evening.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
And there's no measuring, no measuring
required.
SPEAKER_02 (29:00):
Yeah, for a lot of those, toss it together.
We call them food formulas, justthrow this in and that in.
And when you know the formulas,it just gets so simple.
Yeah, it's just second nature.
So, Terry, if you could sit faceto face with a Christian leader
who's where you were 10 yearsago, what's one insight you'd
offer them that could save themyears of unnecessary struggle?
SPEAKER_01 (29:22):
I think it would go back to the fact that God does
not want them to be sick, thathe cares, and that I would I
would probably persuade them toconsider what it was like in
Genesis back in the garden andwhat Adam and Eve were told to
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eat, and what obviously theanimals were eating.
That's so good.
I would just because that'swhere we can meet on the truth
of God's word.
And that's one thing with thisnew cookbook.
When I started it, it was justgonna be another plant-based
cookbook.
But then the Holy Spirit laid iton my heart that it needed to be
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for Christian, not just forChristian people, but it needed
to have a Christian focus on itbecause the church is sick.
I mean, there are so many peoplewithin the church that are sick.
Yeah.
And even when we're comingtogether for these church
functions and bringing in food,it's it's contributing.
It's contributing.
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Absolutely.
One of the physicians that saidwe go to the funerals of our
loved ones to minister to thefamily.
We bring in all this food thathelps put the person who died in
the grave anyway.
I think he said we were diggingour graves with our teeth.
SPEAKER_02 (30:44):
Yes, and it happens in the hospitals too and the
school systems.
But you think about thehospitals, you have open heart
surgery, bypass surgery, andthen you wake up and you're
having sausage and biscuits andbacon, and some of them restrict
that, but it's still just not,yeah, pork, but it's still not
gonna be healthy.
It makes no sense, it makes zerosense.
SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
It doesn't, but but yeah, my heart right now is for
the Christian community, leadersand otherwise.
Yes.
And so that's one reason I'm Idon't know, I feel like we're
breaking ground and reallyhoping that in the next couple
of years there's going to be alot of shift there.
(31:23):
I see it coming.
I really do see it coming.
I mean, yes, and I'm hopeful andprayerful about it.
But yeah, the cookbook that I'mworking on right now, it started
out one way.
God said no, I shelved it.
SPEAKER_03 (31:37):
Redirect.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
I just I had shelf it because my heart wasn't in it
before.
And then when he has guided meto add my faith to it and the
importance and the scripture andgoing back to Genesis and all of
those things that I can nowshare in it.
Now I'm excited about it.
And so much so that I've hadsuch a hard time finding a
(32:00):
publisher for it.
I even went to a Christianpublisher and we were talking
for six months, and thenfinally, and they came back
recently and said, now this wasa publisher that is Amish and
Mennonited.
And they said, we are soentrenched in our traditional
ways of eating with the eggs andeverything that we don't think
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that we can, we don't think wecan sell this to our church
because we don't think thatthey'll do it.
And I felt like, oh no, becausethis was the publisher I really
wanted to go with because theyhad published another book that
wasn't plant based that was aperfect way for somebody to add
their faith into it.
So I thought that I had foundthe answer.
And that was a closed door.
(32:40):
God said no.
But then in a less than twoweeks, An agent and an editor
that was previously with Penguinread the proposal and said they
feel like there's a market for aChristian plant-based cookbook
and there's nothing like it outthere.
(33:01):
So now we're presenting it toChristian publishers.
Yes.
We will see.
We've got to convince them thatGod cares about what all of us.
I don't want to be so inclusivebecause I do definitely want to
reach the Christian community,but I want to reach everybody
because in my heart, so many ofmy followers maybe are not
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Christian.
Yes.
Are they vegan and plant-based?
But if they are caring enoughabout food that they they'll get
the message.
Absolutely.
The message of God through thecookbook.
So I do not know what God hasplanned, but I do know there is
movement here.
Yes.
And so I predict in the next twoyears we're going to see some
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shifts taking place within theChristian community heading for
plant-based nutrition.
I hope and pray that that'strue, but I can feel it in my
heart.
I just do feel that in my heart.
I think God is coming after hischildren.
Yes.
Absolutely.
And he wants them healthy.
And I believe he's pursuingthem.
SPEAKER_02 (34:06):
Yes, because how can his kingdom come when we're sick
and all we're trying to do isjust barely keep our head above
water?
Yet he's placed all these dreamsand these missions on our hearts
and our minds.
And maybe you're at a placewhere you can't even dream yet.
You have to get to that place.
But I think a lot of us evenhave had some success in
business, but you feel likeyou've hit this bottleneck with
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your health and you just can'tlive out all that he's called
you to do.
And you want to see his kingdomcome through your life.
And because it's exciting,there's nothing like pairing up
with God and seeing what he cando through a life that is
amazing.
And there's so many people outthere waiting for your message.
SPEAKER_00 (34:45):
A sick person has only one dream to get better.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
But a healthy person has thousands of dreams that the
Lord has put there.
SPEAKER_02 (34:53):
Absolutely.
And so if you're a Christianbook publisher and you just
happen to land on the stage, wedon't believe in coincidences,
contact Terry through herwebsite at eatplant-based.com
because it could be a divineappointment.
You just never know.
SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
Yeah.
And actually, I was going tomention too that I'm giving away
stuff right now.
Okay.
If anybody wants to subscribe tothe website, just go to
eatplantbase.com.
You don't even have to put thehyphen in it in a few.
Oh, you don't.
Okay.
Eatplant based.
Thankfully, we were able to takecare of that.
But yeah, I'm giving away foranybody who subscribes five
vegan holiday recipes.
(35:31):
Oh, nice.
To impress those, you know, youprobably like me, you've got
guests coming that are notplant-based.
And so some impressive holidayones.
And I have five Deer Tree, ofcourse, plant-based dessert
recipes.
Yes.
They're in a PDF ebook andthey're free to you.
If you subscribe, it'll send youa welcome email and you'll get
(35:53):
two free ebooks.
SPEAKER_02 (35:55):
Okay, so run don't walk to get those.
Run, don't walk right now to getthose because I'm going to tell
you why.
It's not just for holidays.
So it may say holidays, but I'lltell you when you have something
like that that is a showstopperthat people will absolutely
love, you want to have those inyour arsenal.
We call it an arsenal or atreasure chest so that you can
(36:16):
pull those out at any gathering.
You could take them to agathering.
You could use them when otherpeople come over to visit and
you're hosting people becausethat's what you want to serve.
Those are those go-to meals thatyou want to serve.
So go right now toeatplantbased.com and get those
while Terry's offering thembefore they're gone, because
you're going to want to havethose in your treasure chest for
sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
I I get excited to share the recipes because
people, when you're holdingtheir hand to get them started,
that's very important.
So yeah, I'd love being able toshare those things and give them
away and hopefully change someminds.
And even if one person in thefamily is planning to do this,
if they can get others on board,it makes it easier.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
And we have one more question for you, Terry, before
we go.
What Bible verse about healinghas been your North Star
throughout this journey andcontinues to guide you in how
you approach your help?
SPEAKER_01 (37:08):
You know, if I could point my camera around, it's not
just about healing, but one ofmy favorite Bible verses is on
my wall, dearby 29-11.
For I know the plans that I havefor you, declares the Lord plans
to prosper you and not to harmyou.
So just reinforces to me thathow much he cares about us,
(37:28):
whether it's our health or thesituations that we find
ourselves in, he is on our side.
Yeah.
And he has plans for us toprosper us in our health and in
just everyday life.
So that was yeah, I justabsolutely love it.
Like I said, it's on my wall asa reminder.
Even when things maybe aren'tgoing well, if I can just
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remember that this is not wherehe leaves me.
You know, this might besomething he uses to get me to
where he wants me to be.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (38:02):
And it's like we were talking about in the
beginning, that part of theverse that you read to prosper
us and not to harm us.
So it's not him.
We have an enemy, a common enemywho wants to keep us stuck.
But we have a loving father whowants to prosper us because he
wants to bring his kingdom, cometo this earth through us.
And but just because hegenuinely cares for us, he
(38:23):
created us to be his children,to walk with him, to talk with
him.
That's our purpose.
If you're wondering what yourpurpose is, intimate
relationships is your purpose.
And you will never findfulfillment in anything like
you're gonna find in thatrelationship with him.
And I asked my friend Kimberlyone time, I said, Why is God
calling me to do this?
And I think it's the same thingfor you, Terry.
(38:44):
It's like we live in bodies andour bodies are in order.
But why is God calling us to dothis?
Because he wants us to haveoptimal lives, he wants to for
us to thrive and to be able tolive our calling.
She said, Anita, when you can'teven think clearly, when you're
barely surviving the days, whatare you gonna do?
So I think this is just soimportant.
Even if you think, I don't knowif I could do this, try it and
(39:06):
do Terry's method where shementioned four weeks, she just
went in all we all in, 100%,right?
For four weeks.
And it can make such a bigdifference just to see your body
changes.
So, friend, if you are sittingthere right now and you're
thinking, what if this couldactually work for me?
That stirring in your heart, itis not a coincidence.
(39:27):
It is God whispering to you thatyour transformation story is
waiting to be written.
Do not let this moment pass youby.
Write down just one thing todaythat hit your heart and take
action on it this week.
And then join us inside PetePerformance Network at
poweronplants.com forward slashPPN and let us know.
We can't wait to celebrate yourbreakthrough with you.
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Also, I want you to take amoment to like and share this
episode with someone who needsto hear it and don't miss the
treasure trove of the whole foodplant-based gold that is waiting
at Terry's website for you ateatplantbase.com, where Jared
and I are so honored tocontribute as guest experts.
Her website is a treasure trovefor you.
She has tons of recipes waitingthere for you.
(40:09):
And Terry, we want to thank youfor sharing your heart so
generously and for reminding ourlisteners that their
breakthrough, the one they'vebeen praying for, it could be
much closer than they think.
Your story is proof that whatthe enemy meant for harm, God
can transform into your greatestministry.
And as always, remember, you areloved, you are prayed for, and
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your best days are waiting foryou.
Hey sister, welcome to the Power on Plants podcast.
Are you tired of staring intothe fridge wondering what to eat
so you can just feel better?
Do you want to avoid spendinghours in the kitchen making
complicated meals in the name ofhealth?
Would you love to leave fatiguebehind and finally have the
energy to do all the things youwant to do?
(03:07):
Hi, we're Jared and Eatery'sCell Christfollowers, healthcare
professionals, parents of four,and big fans of great tasting
food.
We too tried exercising more,eating natural and clean foods,
but we still found ourselvesstruggling with what we thought
were changes that come with ageor bad genes.
And we weren't finding answersthe traditional route, so we dug
(03:27):
into the research and createdour secret nutritional weapon,
sustainable plant-based living.
The truth is you can eat morewhole plant foods, and it's not
hard.
You just need the way that'srealistic and delicious so you
never feel deprived.
If you're ready to enjoy yourmeals, no longer be held back by
your health struggles andactively live your life, then
(03:50):
you're in the right place.
So grab your favoriteplant-based cup of happy, pop in
those hair buds, and let's getstarted.
Welcome back.
Today we're diving into part twoof our conversation with the
wonderful Terry Edwards.
And I want to say this up front.
If you have not yet heard partone, hit pause right now and go
back.
Not because you should, butbecause part one was packed with
(04:12):
some serious leadership gold.
If you've been praying for a newstrength, clear direction, or
the energy to fully show up forthe opportunities God keeps
placing on your heart, part oneis the foundation that unlocks
it.
SPEAKER_00 (04:25):
But if you did hear part one, then buckle up because
part two goes straight to theheart of the breakthrough.
Terry shares the wisdom leadersneed when the journey gets
discouraging.
How to hear God in the middle ofa health struggle and a
perspective shift that can turnyour deepest value into the
exact place where your callingcomes alive.
This is the kind of conversationthat lights up your faith,
(04:46):
strengthens your resolve, andreminds you exactly why your
life and mission matter.
SPEAKER_02 (04:51):
All right, let's dive in.
What Terry shares next ispowerful, and it begins right
here.
So for everybody listening as aChristian leader, I want you to
understand what Terry has justtold you because instead of
being discouraged when she foundout this revelation about her
doctors already knowing thatplant-based work and could have
(05:13):
helped her, she found she saw amassive gap in the market and
she filled it.
An opportunity.
An opportunity that she had toshare what was placed on her
heart or in her lap because Godshowed her what she needed to do
when the doctors didn't.
So she's determined, shedetermined at that point
basically to be an entrepreneurthat offered health solutions,
(05:37):
walking straight into themedical facility and doing what
Jared and I call taste and see,right?
She walks in with her cookiesthat smelled so good.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
And the brilliance of that is you were doing the
exact same thing that the drugreps would do bring samples and
literature.
You brought cookies and recipes.
That's what made me think of it.
Yeah.
You're following the exact samemodel and it worked.
SPEAKER_02 (05:59):
And just saying, I'm going to be the resource that's
missing in this broken system.
So that strategic move is whateventually placed you as a go-to
expert teaching plant-basednutrition, like you said, in the
local cancer centers and nowcreating your blog where you
reach a lot of people.
So what we love most about howGod took what the enemy wants to
(06:22):
use to silence you, the painthat you went through, the acne,
the rheumatoid symptoms that waspreventing you from holding
hands, and then the exhaustionthat stole your joy.
And it weaponized, you know,that what was going on.
God weaponized that into yourgreatest mission.
And I think that's so awesomejust to think about it's your
(06:45):
ministry now.
So what would you say to leaderswho are walking through their
own health valley right now, notrealizing that their
breakthrough could become thefuel for whatever God has placed
onto their hearts to do?
SPEAKER_01 (06:59):
Well, what do you think?
I would just say always bewatching and listening.
God's always talking.
I don't think he's silent.
I think he's with us 24-7,encouraging us to go this way or
that way.
The question is, are welistening?
SPEAKER_03 (07:17):
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (07:17):
That really is key.
For me, it's starting my dayevery day in my devotions and
prayers and asking him to openmy ears and open my eyes for the
opportunities that he's going topresent today, because he's
going to present some.
They're there.
And we just have to be lookingfor them because he'll guide us.
(07:40):
He says in his word that he hasa purpose for every one of us.
And I don't think that meansjust in our lifetime.
I think that means daily.
Yes.
There's if you're if we'rebreathing, there's a purpose.
Yes.
So what is that purpose?
Have you asked him today?
What is his purpose for youstill being able to breathe?
(08:01):
And there's opportunities aroundall of us if we're open to him.
Yes.
And I think that that's keybecause what he wants us to do
sometimes is not what we want todo.
Absolutely.
I would have probably chosenwhat he has done in my life from
the beginning.
I would have been afraid.
I would have thought, I can't dothis, they're not going to
(08:23):
listen.
I would have been like Mosessaying, I don't want to do it,
or all of the great people inthe Bible who were just like, I
can't do this.
And God's like, Of course youcannot do this.
He can do this through you.
If you will just be attentive,listen, and submit, daily.
So the opportunities are there.
I think it comes down to howclose are we walking with him
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and can we hear him?
Because he has a plan.
And that's in every one of ourlives.
I'm not special.
I just couldn't have picturedthis, but I'm available.
I think that's the kid as youmeet with him, saying, I'm
available, just like Mary didwhen the angel came and told her
(09:06):
that she was going to have ababy, and she had never even
been with a man.
And that would have meantstoning and everything else to
her.
But she said, I'm available forhis will, basically.
Be it unto me as God wishes.
And that's really the attitudewe all need to have, and then
just be looking and not with ano on our tip of our tongue.
(09:28):
But you can be rocked by some ofthe things he may ask you to do,
but don't say no.
Just say I'm available.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (09:36):
Because if he's calling you to it, he's going to
equip you.
And it doesn't necessarily meanit's not going to be a bumpy
ride, but he's going to be thereto equip you to do that.
SPEAKER_01 (09:43):
Yes.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And even like for me, I left myjob when I was teaching, even
before I had the income fromteaching that my previous job
had provided, but I felt likethat that was the way that I was
supposed to go.
And then you run into anotherbump when COVID hits and I can't
teach anymore.
But God's faithful.
(10:05):
Like you said, Jared, it doesn'tmean it's all going to be easy,
but it does mean he is there andwill bring you through every
single step.
Don't think of every problem asa, oh no, now it's going to
crash.
Think of each problem as a okay,God, where do I go now?
He'll open another door to youbecause the other one wasn't
(10:26):
going to take you where hewanted you to go anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (10:28):
I would even suggest some of those bumps are in the
road or the enemy trying toprevent you from doing what
God's called you to do.
Absolutely.
It's like, nope, I'm going toovercome this struggle because
on the other side of this layssomething amazing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
And I feel like for me, I struggled a lot of times
with trying to go and do thethings and trying to figure
stuff out on my own without justspending time at his feet,
falling in love with him, havingthe relationship that Jesus died
to bring us.
That's exactly why he came todie.
He had to deal with sin, butthat wasn't his main purpose in
coming, except for the fact thatit moved sin out of the way.
(11:02):
Because sin had to be moved outof the way in order for the
purpose to be fulfilled.
And his whole purpose was tobring us back into right
relationship with Father, thatwe have the privilege of having
every day of coming into hispresence, talking to him, asking
him to lead us and guide us.
And according to John 17, 3,that's a very definition of
(11:22):
eternal life.
And it starts here on thisearth, that one-on-one intimacy.
It's not about religion.
SPEAKER_00 (11:28):
It's here on earth as it is in heaven.
SPEAKER_02 (11:30):
Yes, that relationship, letting his
kingdom come through us.
And we can't do that trying tofigure it out on our own.
We have to get at his feet andget what Jared said, his
marching orders, his lovinginstructions of the Father that
he wants to give us for thatday.
And it's exactly what Jesus did.
That's how he started hismornings and continued his day.
You know, I don't do anything, Idon't hear the Father say.
(11:51):
So pattern.
SPEAKER_01 (11:54):
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I I pray in the mornings becauseone specific thing that I asked
for in the prayers is because Ideal with so many people.
And some people are kind, somepeople are not kind in different
situations, whether it'svirtually like we are right now,
or whether it is onlineanswering comments and emails
and all that kind of stuff.
Right.
And I'm representing my creator.
(12:16):
Even in the plant-based worldwhere other people are looking
to me for recipes and for healthinformation, I'm still
representing my creator.
So I always pray in the morningsfor God to set a guard for my
mouth and keep watch at the gateof my lips that everything that
I would say, whether through mykeyboard or on the phone or
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whatever, would be for hisglory.
That is good.
SPEAKER_02 (12:41):
That's so good, sister.
I love that.
That is such good advice.
Just submit every day.
Yes.
And when we're surrendered tohim and he can take our hands
and our mouths and our minds anddo that creative process through
us because we were created tocreate things, but to bring his
kingdom come on earth as it isin heaven.
He wants that to happen throughyour life as a leader and
(13:04):
through our lives as leaders.
And anyone who's listening as aleader, it's not just about
teaching plant bases.
What's God called you to do?
What's your mission?
And it can have a ripple effect.
That's why we're so passionateabout getting that one-on-one
relationship right with God,having the bread of life and the
living water, and then gettingthe foods to steward your body
well, the way God optimallyintended from the very
(13:25):
beginning.
And when those things align, youstart to see life come into your
life and you think feel better,then what will that finally
allow you to do?
SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
Because it's not just about feeling better.
Yes.
It's not just about lookingbetter.
I mean, those are nice, but whatwill that then allow you to do?
Fulfill that calling.
SPEAKER_02 (13:42):
And even the next step to that then is the ripple
effect that it has on peoplearound you because sometimes
when you start eatingplant-based or living in kingdom
ways, what happens is the peoplearound you start to notice.
And at first they may seem likethey don't like it and they may
seem resistant to it.
You're not doing it to makesomebody else do something, like
always focus on yourself andwhat God's shown you to do.
(14:04):
And sometimes that meansstanding up and doing the hard
thing when there are otherpeople around you that aren't
quite supportive.
But you have to realize thatwhen they hit a wall in
something, they're gonna callwho?
Who are they gonna call?
unknown (14:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (14:18):
Yeah.
So, like with us, we work withpeople with help.
When they hit a wall with help,who are they calling?
They're calling us.
And it's the same thing with youas a leader.
When somebody hits a wall inthat thing, are you gonna be
prepared?
Are you gonna be ready becauseyou spent time at your master's
feet?
And because you now have fueledyour body in the way that you
can actually show up because youfeel good.
And you know, you just all thesedifferent things that you've
(14:40):
been released from that theenemy was using to keep you
stuck.
Now you've replaced those foodsand those things that were
sabotaging you with the thingsthat put life in your body,
these life-giving foods.
SPEAKER_00 (14:50):
So too, your life just lived out is a witness that
you have the truth.
So when they're seeking thetruth, they intuitively know
where to come to get directionfor that.
SPEAKER_02 (15:01):
And then there's the ripple effect, which is what I
want to ask you about.
So, with your sister, when shefound out she was dealing with
rheumatoid, what happened withthat?
And how did that make you feelbeing able to offer something to
your family that you couldn'thave offered before?
SPEAKER_01 (15:19):
Yeah, that was a funny story.
My sister and I are very closeand we don't live that far from
each other.
So we spend a lot of timetogether.
And she watched me healing as Iwent on this journey.
And we do a lot of familyget-togethers, and there's a lot
of country cooking.
We live in the south.
There's just right, right.
We get it.
Same here.
(15:39):
And so when I'm going to thesethings and taking different food
and everything, it's just sortof like, oh, whatever you would
need to do for you, kind of athing.
Right.
But there was support, but notreally, you know, because they
they just it was things theyweren't familiar with with food.
But as they saw me get better, Ididn't even have to preach at
(15:59):
them about, and I had decidednot to, not to try to convert
them to eating the way that I'meating because I figured the
visual effect was going to be somuch better.
Yes.
And so they watched me get well,lose weight, get everything
under control.
And then they started askingquestions about what I was
(16:19):
doing.
And my sister was so happy forme.
She'd suffered with a lot of thesame medical issues that I did,
and she was so happy, but shenever made an attempt to try to
ask me how she could do it.
Because, come to find out, she'salways been known as the
vegetable hater in our family.
Oh, because she didn't eat verymuch.
It was all fried chicken.
(16:41):
Yes, yes, we get it.
But yeah, she said she couldn'tdo it.
She said that um she couldn't,there wouldn't be enough food
for her to survive on becauseshe liked her ham and she liked
her chicken and her burgers andall of those things.
So she didn't think that therewas any hope.
Right.
But we get together on Sundayafternoons at my mom's house,
and so one Sunday afternoon wewere talking about it, and I
(17:03):
said, Surely you don't hate allvegetables.
And she said, No, pretty much Ido.
So I asked her if she could justname a few that she did like,
and there were there weren'tmany.
She liked pickles and potatoes.
But as I questioned her, therewere things she still does not
like mushrooms.
There was a lot of things shedidn't like, but there was
enough.
(17:23):
She actually likes broccoli.
She could not stand Brusselssprouts, things like that.
But there's with all of thevariety of vegetables and fruits
and beans and grains, there wasplenty.
We made we sat down and madelists, and there was plenty.
And I remember her being veryexcited that day because she
thought, well, she might couldsee some of the same results
(17:45):
that I was seeing after all.
After she had pretty muchthought that there was no
possible way, and she had itrunning.
She and I both have apersonality where we go in 100%
at something, and she did, andshe did so well.
She came off of all she was evenon anxiety medicine.
And I'm not saying that you'llalways be able to do that, but
(18:06):
she came off of her anxietymedications, and she just did
wonderfully.
She lost weight, she gothealthy, and she actually helps
me develop recipes now.
And I wish a lot of recipes onthe website are from her.
She develops plant-basedrecipes, and I still kip her
because she was the vegetablehater of the family.
(18:27):
That's it.
And now, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
And probably what she what she probably didn't
realize though is that she's notnecessarily gonna be that way
for the rest of her life.
Like in that moment, sheprobably never conceived of I
might actually like Brusselssprouts one day.
SPEAKER_01 (18:41):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (18:42):
Yes, they think it's always gonna be just this narrow
range of foods that they like,and so they become resistant.
And I get it.
I mean, it I I don't know iffear is the right word, but
there's some concern there.
unknown (18:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
Then once they can start seeing the changes and oh
wow, I actually kind of likethese vegetables now.
When I didn't before, then theysee that just there's a whole
wide world of foods that willopen up for them.
SPEAKER_01 (19:06):
Yeah.
I think she found, and a lot ofpeople find that maybe they
tried a particular vegetable orsomething cooked a certain way,
like with Brussels sprouts,maybe they boiled them like they
used to do.
I didn't care for Brusselssprouts myself before.
And so you decide I do not likeBrussels sprouts, and you never
eat them again.
But maybe you haven't had themroasted and glazed with some
(19:28):
balsamic.
So there are so many differentways, and then you find out they
actually are good.
It was just one time that youtried a preparation, yeah, and
then you wip them off whenthat's that's a whole different
ball game with different cookingmethods, and she found the same
thing.
SPEAKER_02 (19:47):
And then your taste buds change, yeah, or maybe they
weren't fresh, like Jared said,but your taste buds also change.
Like I never knew broccoli wassweet before, and now you can
taste the sweetness.
So there's so many differentthings about why you might like
something you thought you neverliked, and it could even become
one of your favorites.
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
It could.
And I think a lot of people,maybe, and and my sister was one
of them, had been eating in thepast or trying and deciding they
didn't like something, likebroccoli and things things that
were overcooked.
SPEAKER_02 (20:16):
Yes, yeah, especially in the south.
SPEAKER_01 (20:19):
Yeah, and they're just mushy and they are dark
looking and are not appetizing.
But if you put them in a stirfruit where they still have a
little bit of crunch and a lotof color, that's a whole
different ballgame.
And that's one thing my sisterfound out that she actually does
like broccoli.
She just she likes it in a stirfry.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (20:38):
It's just little things that make a huge
difference.
Absolutely.
Just sometimes those littletweaks can be the big change
that you need.
And I know you were saying yourdoctors thought that this
lifestyle might be part of itwas that they didn't have the
resources, and part of it wasthat they felt like people just
wouldn't do it.
Maybe they didn't have adequatesupport system.
So, what would you tell busyleaders who think this lifestyle
(20:59):
might require too much time ortoo much complexity for their
demanding schedule?
SPEAKER_01 (21:06):
I think that the key is doing a lot of research.
For me, staying on course,especially in the beginning, was
reading the books and watchingthe documentaries because that
works as a catalyst to help keepthe interest and show and
convince you what is possible ifyou try this.
And then for me, as far assticking with it and that it was
(21:29):
worth the effort, was trying itand seeing the results and
realizing that well, one,everything actually did taste
good.
There was a lot of trial anderror.
I'm not gonna say every recipethat I tried was delicious, but
I was convinced enough that Iwas going to stick with it.
Right.
But the results were what werethe thing for me.
(21:50):
I would not go back to thehealth that I had before ever.
I would eat cardboard if I hadto, but not really, but you know
what I mean.
I would just the results wereall that I needed to be my
motivation and mystick-to-it-ness.
And then within that, one, thegoal is to stay well and not be
(22:12):
in pain.
And then two, you learn to getcreative with the foods and
things.
So to me, making the differentfoods and learning how to do
that was like an experiment.
It was almost like science andart all coming together.
Yes.
The science part was thenutrition, and the art was
making food look appealing andbe beautiful.
(22:35):
Because even now, I mean, myfamily and my husband's family,
we get together so much.
And with the holidays coming up,I have to make things that look
appealing that they won't eventry them.
Because we have a lot of familyget togethers here, and people
bring dishes.
And so there is a baked ham inmy kitchen sitting beside, you
know, my vegan meatloaf or mylentil shepherd's pie.
(22:59):
So the food has to lookappealing to compete with that.
And it's like a it's almost likean assignment for me to try to
at least try it and see that itit's actually good.
I would just say be motivated bythe results and stay motivated
by educating yourself throughbooks and documentaries and
(23:20):
everything to and it gets easierand easier over time.
SPEAKER_02 (23:24):
Just realizing that it does not have to be complex,
though.
I feel like like maybe theylistened to you, Terry, and they
said, I don't have time to makean experiment.
Like I need to know what to do.
Well, you can do that.
I mean, Jerry and I have acourse where you teach people
like step one, step two, stepthree, and it just makes it so
much quicker and so much easier.
And you have tons of recipes toget them started.
We have the cookbook as well.
(23:45):
So there's so many opportunitiesthat if you get plugged in to
the right space to be able tosave time, what's one thing that
you've done that's helped you tostreamline things for you so
that's not complex?
And would you say, maybe this iseven the more important
question, would you say ingeneral that now looking at it,
is it harder than what you weredoing before?
(24:07):
And is it more complex?
Does it take you more time nowthan it did before?
SPEAKER_01 (24:12):
No, it everything becomes routine.
Once you change the way that youcook, it just becomes routine
and you keep things in yourrefrigerator in your cabinet at
all times where if you're havinga busy day and you know you're
not going to have a lot of timeto make dinner, there are those
handful of recipes that you keepthe ingredients on hand, and
(24:34):
there are recipes that take like15 minutes, whether it's black
bean chili or something that youcan pull together.
It's easy to drive right pastthose fast food restaurants
because you know, even thoughyou're exhausted when you get
home in 15 minutes, you can havedinner.
unknown (24:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
We joke about it all the time.
We laugh.
We're like by the time I wouldstop and sit in line and order
the food and get home, I couldhave easily had the meal cooked
and eaten and it would have mademe feel good.
But not only that, for me, tasteis huge.
I'm so picky about recipes andtaste.
And we went through some thatwere, it was a struggle for us.
We were thinking, okay, if thisis what it's gonna be, this is
(25:08):
not gonna work.
But being picky has served mewell with served Jared well
because he gets to be the tastetest.
SPEAKER_00 (25:13):
I'm the beneficiary of her pickiness.
SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
That's what he said.
He gets to taste test moretimes.
But I mean, it's so nice whenyou can have those things that
are not complex.
And the reality of the situationis that we believe the lie, that
this is complex, it's hard, andit takes a lot of time.
But just like you're saying, itbecomes your new routine and you
have those things you alreadymake.
I think, is it Dr.
(25:36):
Bernard that said they're ninethat you eat on repeat?
Wheelhouse.
Well, if you're doing that, soyou have your wheelhouse
recipes, then would it not besimple to just start out with a
new nine?
So that's what we talk about.
Just finding your new favoriteculinary expert.
SPEAKER_00 (25:51):
Yes, and that's that's 300 recipes.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
That's solid foundation.
So, Terry, what would you sayare your three go-to favorite
whole food plant-based mealsthat you can execute
consistently on repeat and youlove them?
SPEAKER_01 (26:07):
Yeah, we have certain ones that we eat very
regularly.
One is nachos, and we make adinner.
We're not talking about likenachos with just the cheese
thing, but it's a full-hardymeal with the filling, which is
like a taco filling I make withbulgur and beans and
fire-roasted tomatoes, and thenwith my cheese sauce.
I keep cheese sauce on the onhand all the time.
I just make triple batches of itand keep some in the freezer.
(26:30):
And so we do nachos on a regularbasis, especially if we're
having company, becauseeverybody can top theirs with
whatever that they want, and itjust is very versatile.
We have a lot of company that'snot plant-based, and that's one
dish that goes over well.
SPEAKER_02 (26:45):
So, you have a favorite chip that you like to
use?
Do you normally make them, or doyou have one that you found that
just has better ingredients?
SPEAKER_01 (26:52):
I just make them.
It's just so easy to make if youkeep the corn tortillas on hand
to just slice them with a pizzaslicer and spritz them with a
little lime sauce and a littleseasoning on them and bake them.
It just is so simple to do.
You could even serve the nachoson top of a bed of greens.
You really could.
Or pizza.
Because even what we're doingnachos, we do greens on top, we
(27:15):
do purple onions on top, and wedo olives too.
So it's just a wonderful,hearty, colorful setup.
We do the black bean burgers agood bit with the chipotle sauce
because um they're just reallysimple to make and very good and
very filling.
There's all that fiber becausethey're made with black beans
(27:35):
and with whole oats.
So that's another one.
And my easy go-to one is justdoing a vegetable grain bowl.
Normally for us, it's brownrice, but you could do anything,
any kind of whole grain that youwanted to.
And then, like I've got sweetpotatoes in the oven right now.
So we'll do brown rice, thenwe'll have baked sweet potatoes
(27:57):
on top of it, and then you canmix it up.
If you want to add some blackbeans or some other kind of
beans, you can fresh cilantra,lime juice squeezed over the
top, and then we use tahinesometimes to season it or other
seasonings that you might wantto do.
But talk about delicious, andwe'll probably slice avocados
and have those on the side aswell.
(28:17):
But that's a quick we alwayshave brown rice on hand, but
then you could do faro or anyother grain that you enjoy and
mix it up, mix it up with thevegetables.
You could just buy frozen mixedvegetables, whether it's the
Asian ones, not the ones withthe sauce, but just frozen
vegetables and steam those.
Most of them you can just steamand put them with some soy sauce
(28:41):
and a few seasonings.
Again, I love cilantra, but Iknow some people don't, but
that's my go-to.
Or just chop up some greens andsome fresh onions to go on top.
There's just simple ways to havea very filling and healthy,
healthy meal that will sustainyou through the whole evening.
SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
And there's no measuring, no measuring
required.
SPEAKER_02 (29:00):
Yeah, for a lot of those, toss it together.
We call them food formulas, justthrow this in and that in.
And when you know the formulas,it just gets so simple.
Yeah, it's just second nature.
So, Terry, if you could sit faceto face with a Christian leader
who's where you were 10 yearsago, what's one insight you'd
offer them that could save themyears of unnecessary struggle?
SPEAKER_01 (29:22):
I think it would go back to the fact that God does
not want them to be sick, thathe cares, and that I would I
would probably persuade them toconsider what it was like in
Genesis back in the garden andwhat Adam and Eve were told to
(29:42):
eat, and what obviously theanimals were eating.
That's so good.
I would just because that'swhere we can meet on the truth
of God's word.
And that's one thing with thisnew cookbook.
When I started it, it was justgonna be another plant-based
cookbook.
But then the Holy Spirit laid iton my heart that it needed to be
(30:05):
for Christian, not just forChristian people, but it needed
to have a Christian focus on itbecause the church is sick.
I mean, there are so many peoplewithin the church that are sick.
Yeah.
And even when we're comingtogether for these church
functions and bringing in food,it's it's contributing.
It's contributing.
(30:25):
Absolutely.
One of the physicians that saidwe go to the funerals of our
loved ones to minister to thefamily.
We bring in all this food thathelps put the person who died in
the grave anyway.
I think he said we were diggingour graves with our teeth.
SPEAKER_02 (30:44):
Yes, and it happens in the hospitals too and the
school systems.
But you think about thehospitals, you have open heart
surgery, bypass surgery, andthen you wake up and you're
having sausage and biscuits andbacon, and some of them restrict
that, but it's still just not,yeah, pork, but it's still not
gonna be healthy.
It makes no sense, it makes zerosense.
SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
It doesn't, but but yeah, my heart right now is for
the Christian community, leadersand otherwise.
Yes.
And so that's one reason I'm Idon't know, I feel like we're
breaking ground and reallyhoping that in the next couple
of years there's going to be alot of shift there.
(31:23):
I see it coming.
I really do see it coming.
I mean, yes, and I'm hopeful andprayerful about it.
But yeah, the cookbook that I'mworking on right now, it started
out one way.
God said no, I shelved it.
SPEAKER_03 (31:37):
Redirect.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (31:38):
I just I had shelf it because my heart wasn't in it
before.
And then when he has guided meto add my faith to it and the
importance and the scripture andgoing back to Genesis and all of
those things that I can nowshare in it.
Now I'm excited about it.
And so much so that I've hadsuch a hard time finding a
(32:00):
publisher for it.
I even went to a Christianpublisher and we were talking
for six months, and thenfinally, and they came back
recently and said, now this wasa publisher that is Amish and
Mennonited.
And they said, we are soentrenched in our traditional
ways of eating with the eggs andeverything that we don't think
(32:20):
that we can, we don't think wecan sell this to our church
because we don't think thatthey'll do it.
And I felt like, oh no, becausethis was the publisher I really
wanted to go with because theyhad published another book that
wasn't plant based that was aperfect way for somebody to add
their faith into it.
So I thought that I had foundthe answer.
And that was a closed door.
(32:40):
God said no.
But then in a less than twoweeks, An agent and an editor
that was previously with Penguinread the proposal and said they
feel like there's a market for aChristian plant-based cookbook
and there's nothing like it outthere.
(33:01):
So now we're presenting it toChristian publishers.
Yes.
We will see.
We've got to convince them thatGod cares about what all of us.
I don't want to be so inclusivebecause I do definitely want to
reach the Christian community,but I want to reach everybody
because in my heart, so many ofmy followers maybe are not
(33:22):
Christian.
Yes.
Are they vegan and plant-based?
But if they are caring enoughabout food that they they'll get
the message.
Absolutely.
The message of God through thecookbook.
So I do not know what God hasplanned, but I do know there is
movement here.
Yes.
And so I predict in the next twoyears we're going to see some
(33:46):
shifts taking place within theChristian community heading for
plant-based nutrition.
I hope and pray that that'strue, but I can feel it in my
heart.
I just do feel that in my heart.
I think God is coming after hischildren.
Yes.
Absolutely.
And he wants them healthy.
And I believe he's pursuingthem.
SPEAKER_02 (34:06):
Yes, because how can his kingdom come when we're sick
and all we're trying to do isjust barely keep our head above
water?
Yet he's placed all these dreamsand these missions on our hearts
and our minds.
And maybe you're at a placewhere you can't even dream yet.
You have to get to that place.
But I think a lot of us evenhave had some success in
business, but you feel likeyou've hit this bottleneck with
(34:28):
your health and you just can'tlive out all that he's called
you to do.
And you want to see his kingdomcome through your life.
And because it's exciting,there's nothing like pairing up
with God and seeing what he cando through a life that is
amazing.
And there's so many people outthere waiting for your message.
SPEAKER_00 (34:45):
A sick person has only one dream to get better.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (34:49):
But a healthy person has thousands of dreams that the
Lord has put there.
SPEAKER_02 (34:53):
Absolutely.
And so if you're a Christianbook publisher and you just
happen to land on the stage, wedon't believe in coincidences,
contact Terry through herwebsite at eatplant-based.com
because it could be a divineappointment.
You just never know.
SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
Yeah.
And actually, I was going tomention too that I'm giving away
stuff right now.
Okay.
If anybody wants to subscribe tothe website, just go to
eatplantbase.com.
You don't even have to put thehyphen in it in a few.
Oh, you don't.
Okay.
Eatplant based.
Thankfully, we were able to takecare of that.
But yeah, I'm giving away foranybody who subscribes five
vegan holiday recipes.
(35:31):
Oh, nice.
To impress those, you know, youprobably like me, you've got
guests coming that are notplant-based.
And so some impressive holidayones.
And I have five Deer Tree, ofcourse, plant-based dessert
recipes.
Yes.
They're in a PDF ebook andthey're free to you.
If you subscribe, it'll send youa welcome email and you'll get
(35:53):
two free ebooks.
SPEAKER_02 (35:55):
Okay, so run don't walk to get those.
Run, don't walk right now to getthose because I'm going to tell
you why.
It's not just for holidays.
So it may say holidays, but I'lltell you when you have something
like that that is a showstopperthat people will absolutely
love, you want to have those inyour arsenal.
We call it an arsenal or atreasure chest so that you can
(36:16):
pull those out at any gathering.
You could take them to agathering.
You could use them when otherpeople come over to visit and
you're hosting people becausethat's what you want to serve.
Those are those go-to meals thatyou want to serve.
So go right now toeatplantbased.com and get those
while Terry's offering thembefore they're gone, because
you're going to want to havethose in your treasure chest for
sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
I I get excited to share the recipes because
people, when you're holdingtheir hand to get them started,
that's very important.
So yeah, I'd love being able toshare those things and give them
away and hopefully change someminds.
And even if one person in thefamily is planning to do this,
if they can get others on board,it makes it easier.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (36:56):
And we have one more question for you, Terry, before
we go.
What Bible verse about healinghas been your North Star
throughout this journey andcontinues to guide you in how
you approach your help?
SPEAKER_01 (37:08):
You know, if I could point my camera around, it's not
just about healing, but one ofmy favorite Bible verses is on
my wall, dearby 29-11.
For I know the plans that I havefor you, declares the Lord plans
to prosper you and not to harmyou.
So just reinforces to me thathow much he cares about us,
(37:28):
whether it's our health or thesituations that we find
ourselves in, he is on our side.
Yeah.
And he has plans for us toprosper us in our health and in
just everyday life.
So that was yeah, I justabsolutely love it.
Like I said, it's on my wall asa reminder.
Even when things maybe aren'tgoing well, if I can just
(37:53):
remember that this is not wherehe leaves me.
You know, this might besomething he uses to get me to
where he wants me to be.
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (38:02):
And it's like we were talking about in the
beginning, that part of theverse that you read to prosper
us and not to harm us.
So it's not him.
We have an enemy, a common enemywho wants to keep us stuck.
But we have a loving father whowants to prosper us because he
wants to bring his kingdom, cometo this earth through us.
And but just because hegenuinely cares for us, he
(38:23):
created us to be his children,to walk with him, to talk with
him.
That's our purpose.
If you're wondering what yourpurpose is, intimate
relationships is your purpose.
And you will never findfulfillment in anything like
you're gonna find in thatrelationship with him.
And I asked my friend Kimberlyone time, I said, Why is God
calling me to do this?
And I think it's the same thingfor you, Terry.
(38:44):
It's like we live in bodies andour bodies are in order.
But why is God calling us to dothis?
Because he wants us to haveoptimal lives, he wants to for
us to thrive and to be able tolive our calling.
She said, Anita, when you can'teven think clearly, when you're
barely surviving the days, whatare you gonna do?
So I think this is just soimportant.
Even if you think, I don't knowif I could do this, try it and
(39:06):
do Terry's method where shementioned four weeks, she just
went in all we all in, 100%,right?
For four weeks.
And it can make such a bigdifference just to see your body
changes.
So, friend, if you are sittingthere right now and you're
thinking, what if this couldactually work for me?
That stirring in your heart, itis not a coincidence.
(39:27):
It is God whispering to you thatyour transformation story is
waiting to be written.
Do not let this moment pass youby.
Write down just one thing todaythat hit your heart and take
action on it this week.
And then join us inside PetePerformance Network at
poweronplants.com forward slashPPN and let us know.
We can't wait to celebrate yourbreakthrough with you.
(39:47):
Also, I want you to take amoment to like and share this
episode with someone who needsto hear it and don't miss the
treasure trove of the whole foodplant-based gold that is waiting
at Terry's website for you ateatplantbase.com, where Jared
and I are so honored tocontribute as guest experts.
Her website is a treasure trovefor you.
She has tons of recipes waitingthere for you.
(40:09):
And Terry, we want to thank youfor sharing your heart so
generously and for reminding ourlisteners that their
breakthrough, the one they'vebeen praying for, it could be
much closer than they think.
Your story is proof that whatthe enemy meant for harm, God
can transform into your greatestministry.
And as always, remember, you areloved, you are prayed for, and
(40:31):
your best days are waiting foryou.
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
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