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SPEAKER_03 (00:52):
Your timely source of power platform news and
updates with your hosts, NickDolman and Ulrike Ackerbeck.
Hey Nick.
Hello.
Morning.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02):
Yeah, morning for both of us.
Um separate countries.
Um one-hour time difference.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10):
But yeah, you realize that a bit too late.

SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
Yeah.
At least it wasn't like athree-hour difference or me not
showing up.
You calling me, like, where areyou?
So it's all good.

SPEAKER_04 (01:21):
Well, that's usually the other way around.
It's like you set a time and Igo, Yeah, that's gonna be
perfect.
And then I'm like, I'm 10minutes late, oh 15 minutes
late, and you're just sittingthere going, oh yeah.
So yes uh usually it's afternoonfor me, but you're used to doing
this in the morning, so youlook, you know, sharp and bright
as ever.
Morning ready.
Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
And got a coffee going the whole bit.
It's this is almost like itnormally is, but and not quite.

SPEAKER_04 (01:48):
Yeah, so why are you in almost in my time zone then?

SPEAKER_01 (01:52):
What almost?
Why am I yeah, here basically,um, for those of you who don't
know, I went and competed in theWorld Masters Powerlifting
Championship last week in SouthAfrica.
So I was in Cape Town um for theand I I was I knew I was going
to Cape Town.
This this has been plannedmonths in advance.
I was training, I was workingto, you know, to compete and

(02:13):
everything like that.
And then I'm looking at thetravel, going, okay, I'm going
all the way to South Africa.
Then I was going to last Friday.
My original plan was to fly backhome.
And I'm looking at the eventcalendar and I'm seeing, okay,
cool, South Coast summits in theUK.
And I know there's a lot of ourfriends in the community will be
there, they'll be speaking orjust going there.
So I kind of like, oh, well, letme just see if I were to like

(02:35):
hypothetically, if I were tochange my flights, could I
actually go from South Africa?
Because I knew I was competing,I now knew I was competing
earlier in the week.
Way back when when I booked, Ihad no idea when in the week I
would be competing.
So I knew I wouldn't be able togo to South Coast Summit for you
know for various reasons.
But then I kind of looked at itand I'm like, oh, actually, to

(02:56):
change the flights andeverything was really not much
bother at all.
That um surprisingly, I flewwith the United Airlines and
their website was amazing.
It was just sort of like, youknow, change your flight?
Yeah, I want to do this, this.
And it came back within seconds.
Oh, it's gonna cost you a littlebit this, but really it was like
next to nothing.
And we'll just change theflights and do-do-do.
And I'm like, cool.
So it's almost on the way,right?

(03:17):
It's just not really, it's along way home.

SPEAKER_04 (03:21):
Okay, I'm not very good with geography, so no, you
know.

SPEAKER_01 (03:25):
Yes, I do know this.
Um, yeah, so I get as opposed togoing from this dot to this dot,
I went from this dot to this dotbefore I go to this dot.

SPEAKER_04 (03:34):
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
That's good.

SPEAKER_01 (03:37):
So uh yeah, I went and then so yeah, I went, I flew
up to South Coast Summit, whichwas this past weekend, which I'm
sure have seen a lot of youfolks that are listening or
watching uh now, which wasamazing.
It was so good to see so manypeople.
There's a lot of surprises ofpeople that I didn't realize
were gonna be there.
And then I know a lot of peopledidn't know that I was gonna be
there.
So um it was just it was just itwas just good.

(03:59):
It was a good community event,um, just in how everybody sort
of gets together.
And then the content itself waslike next level, um, with you
know, kind of across the boardsfor both technical and kind of
the non-technical aspects.
Um, in the middle of uh FrancoMusso session, there was a fire
alarm, which allowed all of usto get outside, get a breath of

(04:20):
fresh air, meet up with somefriends, get some selfies, and
then be able to go back in andcontinue on with the conference.

SPEAKER_04 (04:26):
Maybe that's something we should incorporate
in all events.
Why not?
I mean, come on.
Let's do it.
Let's push the button.

SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
Yes.
Okay.
So the next time a fire alarmgoes off, uh, we know who to um
whose fault it might have been.

SPEAKER_04 (04:39):
But you know, you know, without us having this
conversation, you would think itwould meet be me anyways, and
just a bit of a disclaimer, it'snot it wouldn't be the first
time I've done it.

SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (04:50):
Well, I was a kid back then.
Well, I'm still a kid, but youknow.

SPEAKER_00 (04:55):
Wow.
I thought I knew a lot aboutyou, but there's every every
week there's a new mystery thatuh unfolds.

SPEAKER_04 (05:00):
So many things.
Okay, so other other than thethe very well-timed fire alarm,
it was a good uh conferencebecause I have now blocked up my
LinkedIn because of freakingFOMO.
I haven't seen anything.

SPEAKER_00 (05:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (05:14):
Very we should do that.
We need the uh the FOMO filterson LinkedIn.
It's like, oh, here's a here's abig conference coming up that
I'm not gonna be attending.
FOMO.

SPEAKER_02 (05:23):
Block this hashtag block this, right?
Yeah.
Oh, can you please just featurefeature requests?

SPEAKER_01 (05:31):
Yes, yes.
Um, but yeah, definitely it's agood one.
I know they do it, um, theyalternate between um uh uh the
Scottish Summit and South CoastSummit.
Um I didn't hear any rumblingsof the next South Coast Summit.
I'm assuming it's gonna be intwo years, or maybe they don't
even know yet.
I mean, that's fair.
Um we know Scottish Summit iscoming up next year.

(05:54):
It will be in Edinburgh, so weknow that's already.

SPEAKER_04 (05:57):
October 3rd, because that's we talked about that last
episode, right?
Because they just announced itbefore the last episode.
So October 3rd is gonna beScottish Summit uh next year.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
And there's one or two events in between now and
then that we'll talk about maybeat the end.

SPEAKER_04 (06:11):
Just a few, which is a few.

SPEAKER_01 (06:14):
Cool.
But there was also, as always,news and updates or uh that came
um that are coming through thatwe probably should talk about,
maybe?

SPEAKER_04 (06:26):
Yeah, definitely.
So what was it like beingattendee for once?
Because the South Coast, youknow, we didn't do anything,
which just uh just an attendee.

SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
Oh, it was good.
I mean, the I think this I mean,I think probably a good portion
of our audience generally arejust attendees, and we're always
the ones we're speaking or wererunning uh mentoring sessions or
keynotes or workshops.
Um and I definitely enjoyeddoing that, like that was a
thing.
Um, if Cookie even mentioned, hesaid, Oh, if anybody drops out,
would you be willing to to jumpin?

(06:56):
I said, Absolutely, just justgive me the word.
But being an attendee, it's niceum because that way you can go
through like but then the thingis even as attendee, you kind of
run into the the same thing.
There was a couple blocks wherethere are three sessions
happening at the exact sametime, and I want to go to all of
them at the same time.
And I just I can't I can't dothe what they it was in Harry

(07:20):
Potter or Hermanny had the time,the time tracker or the time
changer.
That would be fantastic that shecould go to three different
classes at the same time.
But the the the cool thing isthough, a lot of these um but I
think what we're saying now,I've noticed with other
attending and other events isoh, have you seen like we might
just say, hey, I have you seenum uh like Daniel's session on

(07:42):
MCP before?
Like, no, he's doing it now,great.
But then you're like, well, Iknow Daniel's going to present
that same session at a laterconference, so it kind of sticks
in your radar, so you kind ofknow that okay, if I miss it
this time, I should be able tocatch it next time kind of
thing.
So there's less of that shoot ofmissing out kind of thing.
I think that's the importance ofalso.

(08:03):
Um, I I know I I know we live aprivileged life where we get to
go to multiple conferencesthroughout the year, and I do
recognize that not everybodygets to do that.
But the nice thing is some ofthese large conferences that you
see where it's you have totravel to and you pay money to
get into, a lot of thesesessions come from local
community events or local usergroups, and they kind of get

(08:24):
refined and done through theprocess.
So if you see, if you you knowcan't go to an event or you
can't get clearance to work orfunding through work or
whatever, I highly encouragecheck the local user groups and
check the local community eventsthat are free because chances
are a lot of the same contentwill be there at these local
user groups, or you might get tosee the early versions of it as

(08:46):
up and coming speakers or tryingit that eventually will get to
the bigger conferences as well.
So, yeah, I I mean, you know me,I love going to conferences and
just sitting down and learningand getting these new ideas,
jotting down notes, seeing yourURLs going up.
Um, I try to download thepresentations a little bit later
if I can, and having those asresources that I can now add to

(09:07):
a co-pilot notebook and be ableto search for those things later
on.
Um, yeah, just the learningvalue at these conferences are
just uh next level.
So definitely highly recommendattending attending any type
that you have the opportunity toum go for.

SPEAKER_04 (09:22):
Yeah.
So other than knowing kind ofwhich speakers are going to
present again at a laterconference, do you have any kind
of tips or tricks for how tochoose if you're in that
situation where you have threesessions you want to go to?
How do you choose which to goto?

SPEAKER_01 (09:37):
Uh well that's a that's a great question.
I would say um I think a lot ofit is like definitely that the
topics.
So there's different reasons whyI go to sessions.
First off, first and foremost,the the reason I would go to a
session, the same as most peoplewould go to a session, is I want
to learn something brand new orsomething I don't know about.

(09:57):
I know I'm not gonna be a masterat that skill by attending a
45-minute session, but I'm gonnaat least get pointed in the
right direction.
I'm gonna get some idea ofresources, and not only that,
I'm I might meet the speaker ifI've not met this person before.
There's another resource in thecommunity that we could
potentially call upon if we needhelp.
So, for example, Matt Beard dida session on PCF controls and

(10:19):
TypeScript.
Um, things that you know, we'vetalked about this.
This is on my to-do list forlearning.
So going to Matt's session, Igot a lot of tips, I got a lot
of directions.
He talked a little bit about hisown learning journey where he
started.
So I found that very valuable.
So to me, that's sort of a ifI'm ranking sessions, is this
something new I'm gonna learn?
Is this something I want tolearn?
Is this something that's alreadyon my to-do list?

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Other times it's if it's newtechnology.
Oh, I know nothing about MCPservers.
What is MCP?
What does this mean?
Um, sounds really important.
I hear buzzwords.
Okay, I'm gonna go to Daniel'ssession because this is sort of
this is new stuff.
And then sometimes I will go toa session that I know nothing
about.
Like I've gone to Power BIsessions because I'm not, I'm

(11:01):
not like I don't do Power BIstuff, but I know it's really
important.
But I also know I might havetaken a Power BI, I might have
attended a Power BI sessionmaybe a couple years ago.
What's new, what's changed?
Um, maybe there's things thatI'm not aware of.
And of course, these littleideas stick in your mind.
So then you get on a clientproject and someone asks you a
question, you're like, okay,wait a minute.
Yes, I did see that such andsuch did a session on Power BI

(11:23):
and they talked about it.
Let me get their deck, downloadit from that conference, and
kind of evaluate what they did.
Um, and then and then sometimesthe other sessions, too, if
there's something completelydifferent.
Uh, I attended a session by uhKeegan Chambers on
neurodiversity, which I it wasthere's the reasons there's
reasons why I went and attendedthat session for other upcoming

(11:45):
events that we're planning.
But I was like, okay, this umthis is different.
This is something I neverthought about.
After seeing that session, I'mlike, this is almost, I would
say, mandatory viewing foranybody working in our industry,
um, just to kind of understandhow our brains work and how we
can interact with colleagues.
If we have people reporting tous, how to accommodate them to
make sure that they're utilizingtheir superpowers to the best of

(12:09):
their ability and to everybody'sadvantage.
Um so it's these are really hardchoices to pick the sessions.
But then the other part ofattending a conference like this
is it's always more than justattending the sessions, it's
also talking to the sponsorsbecause they have a lot of
products and services that willcould help you in your projects
or your day-to-day.
And of course, these sponsors,they're the ones that are, if

(12:30):
it's a free event um, or even ifit's a paid event, they're
making sure that you don't haveto pay as much to actually get
into that event.
Um, they're covering things likelunches, um, they're covering
sometimes how helping thespeaker, this getting the best
speakers into those events.
So definitely, you know,visiting those sponsors is very
important.
But the biggest thing to meabout any of these conferences
is just the conversations, likechatting in the hall about a

(12:54):
particular technology orsomething you're working on, or
even you know, talking tosomeone who did a session on
something and talking abouttheir topic and learning more
and helping them giving youpointers, because I would say
the biggest thing that I loveabout giving a session and like
I think you're the same way, um,is when people come up and ask
questions after.

(13:14):
There's nothing, I don't know, Iget a lot, I get a thrill out of
it when people come up and askquestions after I gave a
presentation, or they theyfollow you down the hall when
you kind of go to the next thingand they're asking questions
about what you spoke about.
So having those types ofconversations because the
questions they ask could helpyou learn something as well,
because they could say, Well,I'm working on a particular
problem.
How would you approach this?

(13:34):
And of course, it gets your owncreative juices thinking, and
then you kind of get those goodbrainstorms going.
Um, but then even just havingthe straight one-on-one
conversations with somebody too,just making a connection.
And I mean, you and I havetalked about this, and this is
something I've talked about inkind of other sessions, is as
adults, we have such a hard timemaking new friends.
This community um facilitatesmaking friends as adults.

(13:59):
And I had uh um, I think I cankind of call this out.
I had a great conversation withCheryl Nettley um yesterday.
And uh hi, Cheryl, I hope you'relistening.
But we talked about her hercamping trips and she has this
roof tent on her car and theadventures that she's going in.
And this is something that Iwant to do as well.
So we had that, you know, thatthat conversation about that,

(14:20):
and that was like really good.
Um, me and Sean Asterkan werewe're just sitting down and
talking about a variety ofthings, and then we just kind of
get in this whole MatthewMcConaughey kind of
conversation.
We're both we're talking aboutaccents and we're both kind of
doing Matthew McConaugheyimpressions.
And it was just, I don't know,these these are these little
adventures, these littleconversations that just make
life so rich.

(14:41):
Um, so that so these are thethese are the so if anybody asks
why why do I go to theseconferences?
It's it's the meeting thepeople.
And it is about the people.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (14:53):
Yeah.
My my friends keep tellingasking me, how come you work so
much?
And how come you you go off onweekends and spend the whole
week working all the time?
Isn't kind of work enough workfor you?
It's like, why would you bother?
It's like, well, you don't getit.
These are kind of this is one ofmy core friend groups, right?
It's going around the world,meeting up with the same people

(15:14):
and different people around theworld.
We're kind of a traveling circusat this point where you know we
see the same people again andagain.
Yeah, but that's what it is,right?
And then you know, differentcompilations of people in the
group and then meeting newpeople and you know, it's it's
such a great way to meet peopleand to to build a good group of
friends and and we hang out inthe free time as well.

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And it's not just communityfriends, it's becoming real
friendships.
And we met through a communityevent-ish.
And you know, so I mean, it'sbuilding it's building real
relationship.
It's not it's not about worknecessarily.
I don't think people realize umthat that's what it is.
Yeah, but uh yeah, I Iwholeheartedly agree.
And also that great group ofcommunity friends, they came up

(16:00):
with lots of new news andupdates this uh these last few
weeks.
Uh so you want to dive into thelist?

SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
Absolutely.
So um I think if we kind of gothrough the list almost by by by
per like, you know, we alwayskind of organize it.
Sometimes we organize it bytopic, like whether it's power
apps or copilot.
Sometimes we organize it by.

SPEAKER_04 (16:21):
When did we ever organize it?

SPEAKER_01 (16:25):
You're right.
Yeah, but I think if we almostcould break this down a little
bit by um by by actual communitymembers.
Big shout out to Eliza Benitez.
And uh, I had a chat with Elizaum uh actually a few days ago
because we're we're we're goingto be at uh talk about traveling
circus.
We're gonna be in Vegas doing uha session on uh PL900 and then

(16:45):
also Plan Designer.
But a few weeks ago, she had uhdid a video on uh part of the
Power Apps Pulse, which is aMicrosoft uh kind of initiative,
and talking about the newupdates.
Uh there's new Canvas appupdates in terms of sizing and
and boxes like that.
But also the cool thing aboutPlan Designer, because Plan
Designer is evolving so much,but talk about the reasoning

(17:06):
capabilities in Plan Designer,which is pretty cool.
Because now, as for those of youwho played with Plan Designer or
plans and power apps or whateverthey're calling it right now,
um, when you create something,it creates like you know, Canvas
apps or agents or model-drivenapps or PowerPages sites, but
now it gives you the reasons,the reasons or the details why a
particular technology was chosento address a particular user

(17:30):
requirement.
So that helps.
And maybe if you don't evenagree with it, but then if not,
you can look at it and then youcould provide back into the
prompt the context going, no,no, no, this needs to be a
PowerPages site, not a Canvasapp, because our licensing
requirements, whatever, but atleast you know why the machine
itself decided on the particularuh object that it created.

(17:50):
So that that was really cool.
That's a great feature.
That's something that'sevolving.
Um, so talk about plans in PowerApps.
Again, going back to uh SouthCoast Summit, Mullen, um Martez,
and Mark Christie did a jointpresentation on plans in the
Power Platform.
And here's the quote for you.
Mark Christie said, I actuallylike Plan Designer.

(18:13):
Um what?
Uh and he said, for me to saythat, everybody knows that it
must be not too bad.

SPEAKER_04 (18:19):
Wow.
Well, then if if no endorsementthis far has made you look into
Plan Designer, that shouldprobably do it for you.
And is it called Plan Designersthough?
Because I'm confused.
Maybe planning power apps.
Okay, so whatever one of thosefloats your boat.
Okay.
But that's awesome, really.
It is.

(18:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I I do love the the pulseupdates, and uh Eliza did a very
good job for from for September.
Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
So speaking of Eliza, uh, the next one is
yours.
So you want to uh I've seen thisas well, but you want to check,
wanna talk about this?

SPEAKER_04 (18:52):
I wanted to jump around, but okay, if you're
insisting.
So uh Eliza just no no no.
Uh Eliza's part of the CloudAbdicacy team, uh, which is also
behind the new Agent Academythat we've kind of talked about
since they launched it uh beforesummer.
Um and now they have releasedthe videos on a YouTube channel

(19:13):
um for the next level.
So the first one was recruit,and this is for operations.
Um, so now the videos for thatis live, and I know that the
rest of the curriculum is aroundthe corner.
So if you can't wait uh and youwanna kind of check that out, um
then you can always watch thevideos.
So I think yeah, kudos to theadvocacy team for putting that

(19:34):
together.
So that would be April, Daniel,Scott, and Eliza.
Very well done.
100%.
Um, and then um just keeping onco-pilot studio because this is
of course co-pilot um kind ofspecific and ages specific.
Um, I also saw a new post fromMatthew Devaney, and he's been
really at it these last fewweeks.

(19:55):
Um, so you know, uh good job,Matthew.
Um, he uh added uh created apost on how to set up the
Microsoft authentication, uhauthentication for a co-pilot
agent.
So and this is in the pretext ofautomated testing, which is
really important, and I'm umdiving more into that.
So the blog post is so good.

(20:16):
It's just you know, Matthew, heis just a star of blog posts and
videos.
He put this together very muchstep by step, and also the
little small little corners ofAzure that you probably haven't
touched before if you're a powerplatform person.
This makes a lot of sense to me.
So uh this is one of thosemissing puzzle pieces that I
didn't know was missing, uh,that I'll now uh you know use

(20:39):
and set up uh for the for thenew automated testing for
co-pilots, and that's reallygood.
Uh and also um Matthew, I thinkwe're gonna have a new segment
um for for Matthew because umwhere is that post?
Where did I put it?
Uh well or maybe it didn't makeit in here, but he also had a
kind of yeah, that there it isthe feature request.

(21:00):
Um that was just a LinkedIn postwhere he said, how about being
able to add uh fetch XML kind ofthat you create a view in uh
model ribbon app you can exportthe XML?
How about being able to put thatin as a knowledge source in a
co-pilot you know studioknowledge choice?
That would be fantastic.
And and kind of on the same pageas the other, there's been a lot

(21:20):
of talk about kind ofdeterministic setup, setting up
deterministic capabilities forfor chat, because it is, you
know, the the generative AI andthe LLMs, and they're not really
good at math, and there's somany kind of you don't never
know what the answer is going tobe.
But to configure them in a waywhere the answers are gonna be

(21:41):
consistent and gonna be datadriven and gonna be the same
every time is very important,especially with enterprise
applications and enterprise kindof scenarios.
So we've seen a lot of contentaround that lately.
Um, and this is kind of on thesame page as that.
How about being able to actuallythen choose the the columns of
the table that you want to show,for instance, and just narrow it

(22:03):
down to that little specific uhfilter or something along those
lines would be good.
So yeah, um plus one on that,Matthew, and uh keep the feature
requests coming.

SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
100%.
That's just a common senserequest, and it it almost is a
what do you mean that doesn'texist yet kind of thing, right?
So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (22:23):
Um so and and and speaking of other kind of uh new
segment uh items, yeah.
I saw a post from Yuca onLinkedIn and just is just one of
those fun little things thatYuka does.
But he called it talked about PPac, which we all love acronym
for Power Platform Admin Center,and we were called P PAC.

(22:44):
It's like, how about you know PPak or Tupac?
And then uh just made the case.
If anyone here, if anyone seesthis who have the power to add
new AKA links, how about addinguh two pack as an AKA link for a
P Pak?
Uh which I thought was funny.
Uh guess guess guess what?

SPEAKER_01 (23:02):
The link the the link now works.
It will take you two pack willtake you to I love it, I love
it.

SPEAKER_04 (23:09):
So thank you to whoever did that.
That is fantastic.
Oh, brilliant.
Oh, I love this, right?
So this is the power of thecommunity, right?
So you have someone askingsomething, add a link then for
the for the world to see, andthen suddenly that becomes
reality.
And like the same as uh Matthewdid kind of future requests.
This is what we want.
And maybe, yeah.

(23:30):
And and maybe that's also thebackground for the code app
compare that we saw MagdalenaKaskova um shared as well, which
is specifically for Canvas appsor code apps, sorry, not canvas
apps, code apps, where you cannow finally compare um the edits
or the the code face uh on acode app, which is um something

(23:53):
that we've ranted on aboutbefore is that yeah, sure you
can make a code app, but thenbut then what?
It's one of those Yeah.
Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (24:02):
Yeah, no, yeah, no, this is this is really cool.
I I met Magdalena in uh atVaultic Summit.
It was uh again meeting peoplefor in face-to-face, uh going
back to that conversation.
Yeah.
But this this looks really cool.
I didn't realize that.
Or these for the gen oh, theseare was this is for the
generative pages.

SPEAKER_04 (24:20):
Oh yeah, not code apps, but generative uh pages.
Ah, okay.
I read that wrong and then yeah,of course.
Gen AI pages not for Yeah, whichis really cool.

SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
This was something we I think uh I think Reza did a
video.
We might have even talked aboutit, but still, this is a this is
again, these are things thatpeople miss because there's so
much information.
So thanks, Magdalena, for kindof highlighting this because you
even said, like she said, PS, Ididn't know why I didn't notice
it before, but this is sometimesthe day-to-day you're in
something, you're like, wait aminute, is that button new?

(24:50):
Or is this okay?
I didn't realize it could dothis anymore.
Um, but yeah, that this is likeI think getting generative pages
on to like the next level of ofum to the point where eventually
um I know they're still inpreview, but hopefully we get to
a point where we can actuallystart using these in projects
because this is just gonnachange the game, I think.

(25:12):
And the fact that we can go inand edit and tweak and see
what's been changed and do somecomparisons.
Um, and again, yeah, now nowit's all coming back to me going
back to talk about featurerequests.
I want my VS Code button uh todo Visual Studio Code for the
web.
That would be great in charge ofpages, but they did add a
feature to VS Code for the webwithin the power platform, and I

(25:34):
think we both got this.

SPEAKER_02 (25:35):
Oh, nice segue.

SPEAKER_01 (25:37):
Yes, nice segue there.
So so of course, we I'm a bigfan of, you know, um, I've done
you've done power pages in thepast, right?
I think I've done a few projectshere and there.
Um, but what's really cool iswhat I love about the the design
studio is yes, you can drag anddrop and kind of draw your pages

(25:59):
and well draw or put in thecomponents, but you can open up
there's a little button, which Iwould love to see in
model-driven apps and everywherein generative pages, it'd be
great to have a little buttonwhere you can open it in VS Code
for the web.
So you get to see your sourcecode behind it, the HTML, the
CSS, the Liquid, and then youcan make some kind of micro
adjustments and then flip itback and take see what it's

(26:21):
going to look like in the designstudio.
Now, that being said, VS CodeDesktop takes it to the next
level because then you canincorporate things like GitHub
Copilot, um, you can get yoursource control going and a lot
of these other things.
But in order to do that in thepast, you'd be like, okay, I
need to actually close my VSStudio code for the web or just

(26:42):
leave the tab open, open up mydesktop, then download the code,
and then take a look at it andthat kind of thing.
Now you're able, if you're in umVS Code for the web, you can
click a button and it will openup desktop for you.
It will ask you for a folder thefirst time and it'll download,
it'll go through these stepsautomatically, saving you a lot

(27:03):
of clips, clicks, and allow youto go directly into VS Code
Desktop, which may sound like alittle thing, but it let me tell
you, as a PowerPages developer,it is a huge thing.
So kudos on the team for addingthese.
Like this is, I think the restof the Power Platform um
developers can learn a lot fromthe PowerPages team because
they're really good at giving uhenabling developers, making it

(27:27):
easier, using the toolsdevelopers love, um, like VS
Code Desktop, um, and all it cangive you uh a lot easier with
the power platform.
All that being said, I'm stillwaiting for my uh skip first run
experience.
I keep asking for that, butthat's a whole other thing.

SPEAKER_04 (27:45):
This I know the title of this episode is gonna
be a feature request, because Ithink that's number 10 on the
list.
Because yeah, yeah for and Ihave to now resort to my own
blog post about how to fiddlewith the URL to get past it
every time I open up a newbecause we do a lot of work with
this, and I do open up that asthe first one a lot.
It's like and also it and itbugs me when it asks you, you

(28:08):
know, um, how how often howoften have you created a site or
something?
Kind of what level are are youat?
It's like I'm a fucking prof I'ma professional, just let me pass
the thing, just ask me that inthe beginning, then, and then
let me pass the first frontexperience.
Okay, so now I'm I'm all greenedout, and the mic is probably

(28:29):
enough spiking and you know,grant of the yeah, and you have
to put all the beeps in place,yeah.
Sorry.
Oh shit.
But yeah, definitely.
But also, why is this such ahuge thing?
Well, it's about AIcapabilities, right?
Because even with Visual StudioCode in the browser, you had the
GitHub extension that allowedyou to use the app power pages,

(28:50):
which is supposed to give you akind of um co-pilot power pages
specific help while you'recoding, which I always just go
away because it's useless,completely useless when you know
that you have GitHub co-pilot atyour fingertips at the next
level.
So kind of getting this down tothe desktop app level where you

(29:12):
can use your co-pilot studio uhchat and help and have that kind
of code assisted development,sorry, AID-assisted development
on with you working withPowerPages.
It's not that it does anythingthat I'm not aware of, but it
saves me time.
That's what it does.
Um, so instead of using, becausethat's what I'm doing now is I'm

(29:34):
using Chat DPT on the side,having helping because I can
understand the context, right?
So your PowerPoint uh PowerPagesdeveloper understands everything
and it's way it's it's equallygood in my experience at least
as the at PowerPages stuff.
It's just it that doesn't breakmy code because then we can work
on the code and I can implementit myself.
But having that kind ofinteraction on the code base

(29:54):
itself would just be amazing.
So yes, thank you.
Uh and I agree with you that it.
It's worth kind of reiteratingthat the team behind PowerPages,
I think they're above and beyondwhat we see in other platforms.
And it's all fun and games thatin Canvas app you can now set
the maximum height and maximumwidth of uh responsive kind of

(30:15):
blocks on the page.
But I mean, come on, that's justand yeah, we now allow you to uh
use the cursor to to renamestuff on the left side.
I was like, what that's nothing.
PowerPages team, they kind ofjust now opened up a whole whack
of new tools for us to use AISwith well, PowerPages at just a
completely different level.
So yeah, thank you, team.

(30:36):
Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop,whoop, whoop.
Okay, so that's uh leave us withum one new thing, which is also
a bit outside of our umwheelhouse, so to speak.
But you know, the biggest I hateto say that the biggest
competition to power platform'salways been Excel.
Uh and now um I've had to fiddlewith some CSV files and some

(30:58):
data imports lately.
I've been kind of using the thehow you transform data on the
way in and stuff.
So when I saw this, I was like,Jesus, this is gonna have known
about this, but which it's itjust didn't register with me
that you can now use thatco-pilot functionality within
Excel itself has become thispowerful.

(31:19):
This just blew my mind and it'sbeen around for two months
already.
So just wanted to highlight foreveryone out there like me using
Excel, but not often enough toget these kind of updates front
and center.
You can now you when you youknow when you have um a column,
you use when you write afunction like equal, da da da
equal and then copilot, and thenyou can add a prompt.

(31:42):
Uh there's a lady called MidraTracy?
Tre Tre Tracy?
Is that Midra Tracy?
I created a short kind of videoon YouTube about the new copilot
capabilities for Excel, which uhshe shows an example where you
have a list of expenses, andthen you ask it, can you go in
using the description, show methe different expense categories

(32:04):
that you would use?
And then it creates that list,and then it says, Okay, we'll
just apply it to the roles, andthen it does that, and then it
just transforms your data.
Um, she just shows how toextract uh postal codes from
addresses, cleanup addresses.
There's so many smart things youcan do, and it's just so quick.
And I was like, wow, this isyeah, this is cool.
So um just wanted to highlightthat, even though it has nothing

(32:28):
to do with power platformspecifically.

SPEAKER_01 (32:30):
Well, uh, you say nothing to do with power
platform.
Um, everybody out there whoworks in a power platform who
has used Excel for a for a datamigration or something or
anything, put your hands up.
Like that's all of us.

SPEAKER_04 (32:41):
I mean, yeah, that's so Excel, everything's a good
thing.
The world runs on Excel.
That's we know that's true.
100%.
That's true.
Right.
So um you want to talk about thesorry?

SPEAKER_01 (32:54):
Yep, no, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 (32:56):
No, I was just gonna go move on to uh something we
were supposed to talk about, Ithink last episode because we
skipped.
Because our good friend, andyes, to everyone keeps sending
Anna messages saying, Oh, we'regonna talk about Anna a lot in
the podcast.
That's because we're freakingAnna fans, okay?
And who isn't?
I mean, the girl, she just kindof she just knocks it out of the

(33:17):
park these days.
Come on, she deserves a bit ofcredit.
So, Anna, we love you, and youdid uh you made a book.
I mean, yeah, I I don't do that,but I can do this.
Um, but she wrote a freakingbook and it's called Yeah uh the
Microsoft AI Human ResourcesHandbook.
Um and you know, I I know thatyour big dream has been to

(33:41):
publish a book, a book on thebookshelf with Nick Dolman on
it.
That's one of your kind oflifelong checklists, bucket list
things.
Um, so I'm excited to seewhenever that comes out.
But then Anna did it, and that'sfantastic.
So I think so.
In the description it says, youknow, this book is the first to
gather all the solutions acrossthe Microsoft HR stack, which is

(34:04):
a lot.
There are so many HR featuresscattered around the Microsoft
Tech Stack that you would notbelieve.
And Anna knows about all ofthem.
So she's been through all thesmall little dark corners of the
tech stack and gathered them allin a handbook, putting it all
together in a very cohesive way.

(34:25):
So kudos to you, Anna, for uhjob well done.

SPEAKER_01 (34:28):
Yeah, 100%.
Um and I think this is the typeof book that will kind of it
will, I think, stand the test oftime.
What worries me always about atechnical book if it's it being
out of date over time, but thisis something that a it just it
covers so many different thingsand how it all ties together.
So I think this will still bevery valuable for at least like

(34:50):
a couple years.
Um, and also talking about like,you know, talking into Viva
Learning and LinkedIn and uhjust the whole bit.
So yeah, uh kudos to Anna forwriting a book.
Yes, it is on my bucket list.
Um more to come on that aspect.
Uh, but yeah, that that's uh wealmost should have like a book
review corner, I think,sometimes uh because I know we

(35:12):
don't have on the list, butanother book, um like Anna's
book for sure.
I need to get it because I loveI I might not be doing um human
resources, but I do like tocollect books from folks in the
community as well just tosupport them.
But also it's kind of cool tohave like not here, but on the
on the shelf at home having Ilove seeing I'd love to see my
own book there someday, butseeing books by people that I

(35:34):
know that are friends.
Um I don't know, it just it'sjust kind of cool, I think.
Maybe it's just a a me thing.

SPEAKER_04 (35:40):
No, no, no, I love it as well.
Yeah, and I I probably put it inthe office, like because room
service.

SPEAKER_01 (35:48):
No, no, no, no, no.
But it was talking about booksbecause I brought this book with
me.
This is Mark and Meg Smith'sbook.
Um the uh the co-pilot adoptionuh handbook.
And again, this I haven't reallydove too deep yet because I've
been like busy with a lot ofother things, but um, but it's
talking about but building likewhat stuff that they've done,
like building communities, likerunning hackathons.

(36:10):
Um, it's really another anothergreat book.
Like obviously, we'rehighlighting Anna's book, but
since we're talking booksanyway, I wanted to highlight
Mark and Meg's uh book as well.
Um, definitely another one thatum whether you get the digital
version or you get the paperversion, I think this is if
you're doing anything, the M365Copilot, in terms of trying to
implement it in your ownbusiness or for your clients,

(36:32):
this is another must book to getfor sure.
Um, we should uh do the boot theboost book review, baby.
So many titles.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 (36:42):
So but uh we'll put links in the show notes to where
you can go uh get these books.
And and I'm fully with you.
I also also have in the back ofmy mind kind of how soon will
these be kind of out of date.
But I think uh HR-related thingslike Anna talk about, the the
kind of the ideas and the wayyou go about these things, uh
not necessarily just a techstack, but also the the how you

(37:06):
work with it, the puzzle partsyou need and how to set it up,
that doesn't really change much,even though the tools we might
use might change.
And also I know that Anna, shehas a very AI specific kind of
approach to everything.
So I'm guessing that's throughand through of the book as well.
I mean, Coped Adoption Handbookuh from from my um from the
Smiths, it's also the the theway you go about it will not

(37:31):
probably not change that much.
So I think it's still veryvaluable.
Um right, so but then let's wehave a little bit of time left.
So let's dive into the list ofevents that uh is coming up
because you have uh well, I'llsee you in Vegas next week.
Um for Power Platform CommunityConference, and you have uh a

(37:53):
few things coming up.

SPEAKER_01 (37:54):
Yeah, so Power Platform Community Conference,
if you still haven't got yourticket, I think there's still
tickets available.
Boost 100 saves you$100 off.
I think all the early birds andstuff are gone.
So this is the only way you'llsave money.
But it regardless of what youpay, it's totally worth it for
everything that's happening.
Um, along with part of myinvolvement with that, um, I'm
teaming up with Eliza on acouple things.

(38:16):
So we talked about her talkedabout her earlier.
A PL 900, uh kind offundamentals workshop.
So talk about.
So if you're new to the PowerPlatform and welcome to our
podcast.
Um if uh you're new and you'rebeing sent to Las Vegas because
they're like, hey, we're gonnabe implementing some power
platform features, or we needyou to learn this, go to Vegas,

(38:38):
learn as much as you can.
If you just go into theconference, kind of not knowing
anything, you're gonna beinundated.
It's gonna be like co-pilot AIAI, and your brain is gonna.
So by attending a workshop, likethe fundamental, the power
platform fundamentals workshop,you're gonna know the basics,
things like what is this, whatis Dataverse, what are power
apps, what's power pages, howdoes you know co-pilot kind of

(38:59):
fit into all this?
So once you sort of have that,then you might be you could, if
you want, you could write thePL900 exam, but more and more
you'll have those thatfoundation that the rest of the
week will make much more sensein terms of oh, what is this?
How does this fit in?
So that's just sort of my pitchfor the workshop.
And then we're also we're doingum the name of our again,

(39:21):
because things the titleschange, but basically the title
of our session that I'm workingwith Eliza, it's creating an
app, start with plan designer,build with copilot.
So we talk about building appsusing plan designer, but also
other aspects of the powerplatform or even the Microsoft
ecosystem.
Like, you know, um I've talkedbefore, I'm a big fan of my M365
notebooks and how I incorporatethat into my app design and some

(39:44):
other tools as well.
And again, looking forward tolike, you know, having Eliza's
uh uh ideas on that too.
And she'll take a lot of thatinformation that she learns from
the people attending that mightbe asking questions back to the
team as well, because that'spart of her job to advocate for
the team, but also to collectinformation from the community.
So that's um the Power PlatformCommunity Conference.

(40:06):
You're speaking of an attendee,you're just there as an
attendee.
So you're the one on easy streetfor that one.

SPEAKER_04 (40:12):
Easy street, I find that's even harder.
You know, being a speaker, youkind of have your thing to focus
on, um, and you kind of that'skind of your your main focus.
But then being an attendee, Iknow my mind is gonna explode.
So I have to pick and choose theand also what I've learned is
that if I go from one to thenext, just I'll forget
everything.
So what I need to do is justmake sure that I have time in

(40:34):
between to actually sit down andand apply some of the things
that I learned and make somenotes and kind of maybe a small
little post or something, justfor my own sake.
And like you said, download thedeck and just kind of work
through the material a littlebit.
Otherwise, it's just gonna kindof build up this huge little
huge pressure in my head of newthings, um, and also picking um

(40:56):
what sessions to go tocarefully.
So uh, and also I I'm sure asalways we'll do a little bit of
a recap um episode as well fromVegas, um, which is gonna be a
lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01 (41:07):
100%.

SPEAKER_04 (41:08):
Yeah, definitely.
And then um just quickly goingthrough the the next events on
the list, we have uh Ignite,which is November 18th to 21st.

SPEAKER_01 (41:18):
Yes.
So I wasn't gonna go, but nowI'm going.

SPEAKER_04 (41:21):
Of course you are.

unknown (41:22):
Of course.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (41:25):
No one really bought the story.
I'm gonna slow down.
I'm not gonna do all the eventsanyways, Nick.
So it's uh it's all good andwell.
You're the last one to knowabout these things we know.

SPEAKER_00 (41:34):
So we we knew you know me.

SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
Yeah, so when I say these, like you know me.
Like we like, yeah, like we uhyeah, even had a conversation
yesterday, and I kind of saidsomething, and you I just I
could hear your eyes roll overthe phone.

SPEAKER_04 (41:48):
Um like, oh, when did you realize this?
Because we've known them for awhile, and you're like, oh, I'm
always the last one to knowabout this exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (41:57):
So definitely, yeah.
If you if you're new.
I'm going to ignite, I'll be onthe expert spoof uh for a bit.
I th I think I was on the on thePower Apps expert spooth.
I hope.
I I just know I'm doing I haveexpert booth duty, which I love
because it gives me anotheropportunity to talk to people
from the community and peoplethat are new.
The last I did it last year, andit was so cool because people

(42:18):
go, Tell me about the powerplatform.

SPEAKER_00 (42:20):
And like, how long do you have?

SPEAKER_01 (42:22):
Yeah, exactly, because I'm gonna tell you all
about it.
Um, so if you see me there, comesay hi.
Um, I don't know if we'll haveany uh my plan is to get rid of
the rest of the ducks for Vegas,but I think we have to get a new
batch because so many peoplehave been asking.
Um, they're asking forautographs.

SPEAKER_04 (42:41):
Yeah, autograph ducks.
So that's fantastic.
So then next time we get abatch, you're gonna have to sit
down and actually autograph ahundred rubber ducks.
All the ducks.
Right, okay.
And then I saw a post from Lisaabout her duck, which has been
traveling the world.
I mean, that's so cool.
Uh cute little duck travelingwindow for so long.
It's so funny.

SPEAKER_01 (43:02):
It's funny because when we got the ducks, there was
a few people that I thought, I'mgonna send it.
Like, believe me, I'm notsending like as much as I love
our audience, I'm not sendingyou all a duck because it
actually is uh surprisinglyexpensive to send.
And it's like the the mailperson at the post office was
like, what is the commercialvalue of what you're sending?

(43:23):
I said, it's a freaking rubberduck, it's like probably worth
the buck.
Like so I sent a few out, andthen it was interesting because
it was almost like it was almostlike a I think we talked about
this.
It was almost like a duck race.
Like, who's is gonna get therefirst?
And of course, I think um, Iknow I uh sent like uh down uh
one into the States, uh one intoGermany, uh, one went to New
Zealand, and then of course atleast I at least I sent a

(43:45):
message to Lisa.
I was like, Did you ever getyour duck?
And she's like, No, no, not yet.
I'm like, okay, it must have gotlost, and then it disappeared.
So I think the duck actuallyfloated over the Pacific to
Australia and swam when it gotthere, so it's all good.

SPEAKER_04 (43:59):
And the adventures it had to tell when it arrived.
Oh, I love that it did.
It's been traveling the world.

SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
Cool.

SPEAKER_04 (44:05):
That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 (44:06):
All right, so then we we move on to, you know,
that's Ignite, I think, is thelast one of the year.
Although I know a lot of thepeople in the community will be
going to Dublin for the Europeanpower uh for the um the the
European SharePoint conferenceor the same folks that put on
EPP.

SPEAKER_04 (44:26):
Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (44:27):
Yeah, SPC in Dublin.
I won't be there.
He Nick says now, but I don'tplan on being there.

SPEAKER_04 (44:36):
Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.
And then you can stay untilJanuary if we're Artic Cloud
Developer Challenge, which iswhich is January 22nd to 25th.
Um so that's the hackathon thatwe throw every year.
I know that there's gonna be agroup of MVPs gonna be there
like last year.
Um, and then I hear you'remaking some plans to be there.

(44:56):
And of course the Norwegian uhconsulting companies all send
their teams there, so it's gonnabe a great show.
We had about 80 people lastyear, and I'm sure we're gonna
hit the same rates this year.
Um we had a bit of a snag whereMicrosoft deleted our whole
tenants.
We lost kind of 10 years ofdocumentation.
Um yeah, so that's actuallysomething we could talk about.

(45:16):
So if you didn't know, whathappened was we had
non-for-profit licenses and thenthey expired.
And of course, we're an eventthat's thrown every year.
So during the summer, it's kindof quiet time for us.
No one checks the email.
No one really checks in with thetenant.
And also we had an old adminemail set up as the org global
admin.
So there had been emails sent tothat account, which hasn't been

(45:38):
logged into for years and years.
Um, so of course it's bad adminon our part.
But believe it or not, they giveus 14 days to add new licenses
to the tenant.
If we don't, they delete thewhole thing and there is no
backup.
Because we talk to senior adminpeople and they're like, no, no,
no, it's 30 30, 30.
So you'll have 30 days, theygive you 30 more days, and then

(46:02):
if nothing happens, they do keepit for 30 more days, even though
they say they don't.
So if you get support on theline, they'll be able to restart
it from the backup.
I've taught I had a wholeweekend where I was on the phone
with one of the support people,and he tied three times with the
with the with the backup team,and they were not able to
restore anything, and that waskind of what 30 days later, 24

(46:25):
days later.
So just a bit, and I was like,Well, I understand this is kind
of poor practice fornon-for-profits and events that
use the tenant and what that'sway too short notice.
I'm like, I get that it'sdifferent for the for the big
you know corporations and stuff.
He's like, no, no, this is thepolicy for any tenant.
Coca-Cola loses their licenses,14 days later, it's deleted and

(46:46):
there's no backup.
This is across the board, alltenants no matter what, which is
kind of crazy in my book.
But so at least we learned ourlesson.
Keep keep on top of your admin,keep on top of your licenses,
and make sure you check in every14 days.
Um, and then do that, take thatseriously.
Um, and and and and do backups,make sure you have backups.

SPEAKER_01 (47:09):
Yeah, that's good advice because I even know for
the event uh that we're gonna betalking about Silly at the um
Canadian Power Platform Summit.
Like we don't actually have ourwe're actually managing on my my
tenant, which is licensed, but Icould see we don't talk or do
much for a stretch of like sixmonths where yeah, we wouldn't
even log into our SharePoint orour OneNote or anything like
that because we don't need tobecause it's just not happening.

(47:31):
But yeah, good good advice.
Uh good to know.
So cool.
Yeah, but moving okay, so ACDC,which is um one thing I think
it's been announced.
It's it's can I say that's theMinecraft theme?

SPEAKER_04 (47:44):
Is the Minecraft theme.
Office it's so awesome.
Uh and we're also um working ona bit of a surprise for
everyone.
So um, yeah, make sure to to getwith your kids when they play
Minecraft so that you'relearning.
I'm my kids are now teaching meto do to play Minecraft because
I've already wanted to play themthe one block where you start

(48:04):
with one block and you have tokind of survive on whatever it
is that you get on the on theblock.
And my daughter was like, Ithink you need to practice in
creative mode first, mom,because you kind of always die
like within the first night.
So oh, okay.
So she's teaching me all thegood stuff.

SPEAKER_01 (48:20):
Um also speaking about being able to and sorry, I
was about to say I have anin-house Minecraft expert as
well, so I think I'm I'm wellwell positioned.

SPEAKER_04 (48:29):
And also you have a costume, right?
Because this is kind of thewhenever there's a theme for
ACDC and last year or the yearbefore you dressed up the Super
Mario.
So of course you're gonna comebecause you have the Minecraft
costume already.

SPEAKER_00 (48:41):
Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 (48:42):
Maybe you can bring Emma Michelle with you on the
team.

SPEAKER_00 (48:44):
Maybe, yeah.
That could yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (48:46):
It's gonna be kind of a dolman show.
Cause you know, Bridge is gonnacome because she can she knows
the tag and she does work withus, and and then Michelle can
come and she can be whoop whoop.
Yeah, whoop, whoop.
I'm super excited now.
The dolmers are coming.
Okay.
So um I'm gonna talk to BrigBridge about it next week.
Don't you worry.
I'm gonna I'm gonna make thathappen.

(49:09):
Right.
So um uh is can we announce theother thing that's on the list,
the next one?

SPEAKER_01 (49:14):
The we're the cloud technology talent?

SPEAKER_04 (49:16):
Yeah.
No, maybe not.

SPEAKER_01 (49:17):
Yeah.
No, we're well I think the factthat we're speak we're speakers
at Talon.

SPEAKER_02 (49:22):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (49:22):
Right?

SPEAKER_02 (49:23):
It's public.

SPEAKER_01 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think so.
Okay.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (49:27):
So well because I don't keep it up with these
things, but we're yeah.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 (49:32):
Yes, I don't know, like in terms of our I well, I
don't care.
I'm doing a session on React atCloud Technology Talent, if I'm
not supposed to say it.
Vivian in the Yaddock, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 (49:43):
But we're gonna have to edit that out.
And I'm doing a session on powerplatform pipelines and all the
lessons I've learned so that youdon't have to make the same
mistakes.
So if you're gonna dive intosome project with pipelines,
please come to my session.
I'll save you so much time andgrievance.
So, yeah, that's that.
And then you have Canadian PowerPlatform Coming uh Summit coming

(50:05):
up in March.
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (50:07):
So this is this is gonna be the uh the business
applications weekend.
It's gonna be the unofficialkickoff to MVP summit.
Um, but it's just it's I'mreally excited this year.
We we have the speakers chosen,we have our sessions chosen,
we've nailed down our openingkeynote or closing keynote.
Um, not quite ready to announceeverything yet.

(50:28):
Um the but so there's that'sgonna be happening on March
21st, uh a Saturday in Vancouverat the Microsoft Offices.
On March 20th, we're gonna behaving uh four workshops.
They're gonna be at the otherMicrosoft office, which is also
in Vancouver.
It's about a block away.
But if you want to learn aboutdifferent things about the Power
Platform, uh you'll skip, we'llget some information with those

(50:50):
workshops out soon.
But also on March 20th, on theFriday at the Microsoft Office,
the DynamicsCon folks are doinga DynamicsCon regional.
And so if you are interested inDynamics 365, Business Central,
FNO, or customer engagement,they're doing an event.
We're sort of working, uhcoordinating with them a little
bit back and forth.

(51:10):
Our event's still separate,theirs is a separate, but we're
all kind of uh colluding on afew things, maybe some social
events.
And it's just gonna be greatbecause if if you're more of a
power platform person, you know,you're welcome to come to both,
of course, but you know, theSaturdays for the Power
Platform, the Fridays for theDynamics 365, of course, we're
all one big happy business appsfamily.

(51:31):
It's just I'm really superexcited about this whole
weekend, and like I said, uh,and then there's gonna be a lot
of MVPs on their way to MVPSummit that are gonna be either
attending or speaking or helpingout.
Um, and so if you're in theVancouver area or plan to be, or
Vancouver in March is actuallyreally nice, to be honest.
Like everybody says it's cold,but it's actually quite

(51:52):
pleasant.
You can, you know, go biking anddo a lot of other things, visit
the mountains, uh, you know,visit the visit the ocean.
Um maybe a little early forswimming for most people.
I don't know.
I I might.
Um, and uh it's just gonna beone of those uh really great
events.
I'm really looking forward toit.

SPEAKER_04 (52:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
And then MVP Summit, of course,uh in Seattle, and then we have
uh Color Cloud and DynamicsMinds and EPBC, and then yeah, a
lot of other things going on.
And it's um yeah, I had a postthe other day about kind of how
the people around me are morekind of preoccupied with oh,
Halloween and Thanksgiving andit's Christmas soon.

(52:32):
And I'm like, dude, I'm planningthe summer of 2026, like the
conference season, the wholespring and the whole shadang,
because we're kind of livinglike six months ahead of and
planning our calendars and this.
I got a um an invite for aconfirmation thing for one of
our family friends, and it'slike May 9th or something, and I
had to check my calendar.
I was like, ooh, you boughtthat's just barely cutting it

(52:56):
because I have an engagement thethe previous week.
I'm like, oh, can I get backfrom that place to to come here
for that?
And I think I'm the only personin the group that actually I'm a
bit worried nine months ahead oftime.
So, but yeah, that's kind of theworld that we live in, right?
And then of course plans changeas we as we move through this.
You know, you add a bit oftravel here, a bit of a detour

(53:18):
here, and then suddenly, yeah,yeah, yeah.

unknown (53:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (53:23):
We are privileged.
We really are, we have to saythat.
We know that we are.
And this scares of course, thisdoes that to me every time when
I see this.
Uh, next episode's gonna beNovember 5th, and that's um the
Monday after Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 (53:37):
So we'll do a recap episode before that, and then
we'll see what we do with thewith the maybe maybe we should
just do the um we should do theepisode at the tail end of Vegas
and do what we did for NordicSummit, kind of all tie it in.

SPEAKER_04 (53:49):
That sounds like a good idea.

SPEAKER_01 (53:50):
Maybe.
Maybe.
Anyways, that's uh stay tuned.
We can talk about that later.
Yeah, stay tuned.

SPEAKER_04 (53:54):
Yeah, we can.

SPEAKER_01 (53:55):
Awesome as always, chatting with you.

SPEAKER_04 (53:58):
Ah, likewise.
And happy travels back.
Hope it's uh easy andnon-frictional, and then uh I'll
catch you on the other side.

SPEAKER_01 (54:04):
Sounds good.
See everybody.

SPEAKER_04 (54:06):
See ya.

SPEAKER_01 (54:06):
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