October 9, 2025 • 28 mins
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In 1980 Angelina & Kevin Verville senior were selling into life with their new baby, Kevin Verville JR when the unthinkable happened. A woman posing as a social worker kidnapped baby Kevin. 45 years later the family holds out hope that Kevin junior can be found. Please listen and share this story.
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https://amp.sacbee.com/news/california/article308453495.html
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Crime With Holly episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crime-with-holly/id1710293202?i=1000724134854
In 1980 Angelina & Kevin Verville senior were selling into life with their new baby, Kevin Verville JR when the unthinkable happened. A woman posing as a social worker kidnapped baby Kevin. 45 years later the family holds out hope that Kevin junior can be found. Please listen and share this story.
Sources for episode:
https://www.crimeonline.com/2025/09/08/newborn-stolen-in-broad-daylight-ncmec-highlights-case-of-kevin-verville-jr-at-crimecon-denver/?fbclid=PARlRTSAM23a1leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABpzTRQNbxTndgtvlttSfOyop1ZRo7Q8c4vhltR40bGMk3uW0zoHvIRvzfInqb_aem_luH9mXPP7bPrNr1ESn0Ssg
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https://youtu.be/20MNq579m3k
https://amp.sacbee.com/news/california/article308453495.html
Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/1J9KhvhavA/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Crime With Holly episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crime-with-holly/id1710293202?i=1000724134854
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk
right now in true crime, and then together we are
going to work on warming up some cold cases.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie.
I am just getting over being sick. My voice is
probably not what it should be, but we are slowly
but surely getting there. So let's dive into right now
in true crime. So last Wednesday, so it's not something
I included on right now in True Crime last week,
(00:32):
but they exhumed the body of Henry Bodard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I've covered his case here on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
He was murdered in nineteen seventy four and his homicide
remains a mystery. But officials confirmed that they were actively
working on Henry's case and that they were taking the
body for autopsy. Now, they did say there was no
significance for why they chose last Wednesday as day for
(01:00):
the exhumation, but they did say that the court order
to do the exhumation was based on a result of
information recently received, according to a press release, So it's
going to be really interesting to see what happens with this.
He was murdered in the woods not far from his home,
(01:20):
and he is the one that was killed where they
believe that the weapon was this very specific baseball bat
that was found at the scene. They have pictures of it.
They're specific carvings. I did the episode not too long ago,
so you can easily go back and look at that.
But Henry was only a fifteen year old boy. He
was on his way home and his life was violently taken.
(01:42):
So I am so hopeful with the exhumation that hopefully
they kind of have a direction in which they're going
and that they are going to be able to solve
Henry's case, because I'm seeing it more and more lately
these cases that are unsolved. Time is running out for
the perpetrators because technology is advancing so rapidly that they
(02:07):
are doing everything they can to try to keep up
and try to rerun DNA with the new technology that
is ever ever evolving.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I really do.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Believe that time is running out for these perpetrators, and
every day we get closer and closer to solving these
cold cases. And nothing makes me more fired up than
hearing about cold cases being solved, because that is literally
why I do what I do as a cold case
true crime podcaster. I want to bring attention to these
(02:38):
lesser known cases, to keep them in the forefront, but
also in hopes that one day I'm going to be
telling you that they have been solved, so I will
keep you updated. In Henry's case, I am very hopeful,
all right, Moving on to the ditty of it all.
He was sentenced to four years plus a couple of months.
I want to say, I think it equated to about
(02:59):
fifty weeks, and he's already been obviously incarcerated for a
period of time. I think he has to serve at
least eighty five percent of his sentence, so he could
be out sooner rather than later. I think it is terrible.
I think it's despicable. This is a not good person.
(03:23):
He has done a lot of bad things. I know
he was found not guilty of some of the more
horrific charges, but the fact that his victims spoke out
against him, spoke out against him receiving a light sentence,
and the judge turned around and said, I'm going to
show people like Diddy that want to do crimes like
(03:44):
what Diddy did, I'm going to show them that we
mean business. And then sentence him to four years. It
just doesn't really equate for me. But anyways, I don't
really have much more to say about it. I think
it's disgusting. I think he should be incarcerated for far
longer than what two years that he has left. A
year and a half that he has left. And that's
(04:06):
all I'm going to say about it because I think
it's gross. So onto other trial news. October twentieth was
supposed to be the start of the trial against Brian
Walsh for allegedly murdering his wife on a Walsh.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So he was.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Attacked in prison, I want to say, a couple of
weeks ago, and now they want to do a mental
health competency evaluation on him because he's allegedly been having
a lot of issues since he attacked and stabbed, and
he has been I guess having issues. He was sent
(04:43):
to a hospital for twenty days for testing following the stabbing,
so it's this ongoing thing. So they are going to
reevaluate him or evaluate him for basically mental preparedness for
is he competent to stand t trial. So this alleged
murder took place in twenty twenty three. They have never
(05:05):
found Anna's body to this date, So it's going to
be interesting to see what happens as far as this goes,
how much longer his trial will be postponed, if he
is deemed mentally competent, when they're going to reschedule that
for and if he's found not mentally competent, what is
(05:26):
going to go on from there? So this is an
ever evolving saga, but I will continue to keep you
guys updated on this one. But I personally, my own
opinion is that he's just trying to do everything he
can to avoid going to trial because he knows that
the evidence is there and it's not going to be
good for him. Again, that is just my own personal opinion.
(05:47):
So last thing I want to talk about is there
is new developments in the Corey Richins case. She has
asked the judge to reevaluate her bail and the conditions
of her release based on this new development, and we're
going to talk about what the new development is. So,
for those that don't remember, Corey is accused of murdering
(06:08):
her husband, Eric Richards by spiking his drink with fentanyls.
She made him the mosquiyamule to celebrate and he ended
up passing away from a fentanyl overdose. Then she proceeded
to write a children's book on grief and kind of
go on a press circuit marketing this book about grief
(06:29):
after everything transpired.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So, the fentanyl that she got.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Allegedly she got from their housekeeper, and then they had
somebody else that allegedly sold the housekeeper fentanyl, so she
was basically the middleman for this feentanyl. But the guy
that originally claimed that he sold the housekeeper the fentanyl
is now recanting.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So this is the basis of which.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Corey and her team want the bail reconceives uttered and
to talk a little bit about the conditions of her release,
because this guy was pretty much a star witness for
the prosecution and now he has recanted everything. And of
course Corey's team is basically saying, if this man recanted
and they cannot physically place the fentanyl in Corey's possession,
(07:20):
then they don't have a case. So it is going
to be interesting to see what comes of this. I
will keep you guys updated with any new developments. I
feel like this is one that I feel like has
just gone on and on and on. There's been multiple
things that have been brought up, and ultimately, I think
everybody wants justice for Eric because I don't personally believe
(07:44):
that he ingested all of that fentanyl knowingly, especially because
he had expressed that if anything ever happened to him,
that they needed to look at Corey. He had apparently
had some feelings that she might try to kill him,
so I don't think that those things are just random.
I don't think he would say that just to say it,
(08:05):
and apparently she had also tried to poison him prior allegedly,
so I don't think that any of this is unfound.
I do think that this witness is a huge blow
to the prosecution, but I think that with everything else
they have, they'll probably be able to pull this off
at least I'm hopeful for that, but I will continue
to keep you updated on that. At the end of
(08:26):
the day, I really just want them to get justice
for Eric Ritchens because he very much deserves it. He
did not deserve to have his life stolen like that
in such a horrible way. But like I said, I'll
continue to keep you guys updated. If there's any new developments,
I will be sure to bring them to you. Here,
and with all of that being said, we are going
to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And get into today's episode.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, guys, today we are jumping in to a very
very important episode. The more people that hear this episode,
the more people that see the photos that I'm going
to be sharing on my Instagram and Facebook pages, the
higher chance we have at reuniting Kevin Verville Junior with
(09:09):
his family and ending this forty five year old mystery.
What happened to Kevin Verville Junior? I hinted about doing
this episode when I did my Crime Con recap. This
story is an infant abduction story that I first became
familiar with when I listened to my friend Holly's podcast,
(09:30):
which is Crime with Holly. I'm going to link the
episode below so you guys can go listen to it.
And in that episode, Holly interviewed Angeline Hartman from Nick Mick,
and she shared Kevin's story with Holly and her listeners.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And then when I went to Crime.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Con, I was able to attend the session that was
about Kevin Junior and got to hear directly from his family,
and I knew immediately that I needed to cover Kevin's
case on my podcast. His case is exactly the type
of case that I want to cover on my podcast
because it's one that is solvable, and it's one that
(10:10):
the more people that hear it and see it, there
is a higher likelihood that Kevin could be reunited with
his family. His type of case is the reason I
have a podcast that covers unsolved cold cases. I cover
people who are missing, and I also cover people that
don't even know that they are missing, and that is
(10:31):
what we're going to be talking about today. I have
previously covered the story of Steve Carter who one day
just kind of got a wild hair and thought that
something didn't quite add up in his life and his
upbringing and decided that he wanted to try to figure
out who his true identity was. And he did that
(10:52):
and found out his true identity was Marx Barnes. You
guys can go back and listen to that episode for
a little more context, but he very much discovered his
own identity after decades of just thinking something wasn't quite right.
So today we get to hear Kevin's story. It's a
(11:13):
very emotional one and seeing his family still fight for
answers and fight for justice after forty five years really
puts it all into perspective. They've lived with this horrific
tragedy most of their lives and they're not giving up
trying to find Kevin. And that is where we all
come in as a true crime consumer community. I always
(11:37):
preach sharing these episodes, and I mean that for every
single one, so this one is no different. Share this episode,
share the social media posts, and follow Kevin's family as
they've started a Facebook page to try and raise awareness
about his case. I'll link that below in the show
notes as well. Let's go ahead and get into Kevin's
(11:59):
story now. Kevin Art Verville Junior was born on June
fourteenth of nineteen eighty to his parents, Kevin Verville Senior
and Angelina Verville. Kevin Senior was a Marine corporal and
was twenty one years old, and Angelina was twenty two.
They were newly married just two years before they had
(12:20):
Kevin Junior. After Kevin Junior was born, they spent about
a week in the hospital due to Kevin having jaundice,
but they finally got to bring their baby home. The
new family of three settled into their home, which was
an off base apartment complex called Sterling Homes. It was
located near Camp Pendleton in Oceanside, California. Everything changed on
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July one of nineteen eighty. Kevin Junior was only seventeen
days old. The family had just returned home from the
grocery store. They didn't even get a chance to get
inside of their home when they were approached again by
a woman who in the days before had introduced herself
as Sheila and said she worked for a program called
(13:06):
Help and said that she was a social worker with
this program. The Help program essentially helped low income military
families with diapers and formula and other infant needs. The
Verville family had decided that they did want to go
ahead and sign up for this program. Sheila offered to
take Angelina and baby Kevin to the Social services office,
(13:30):
as they would need to weigh baby Kevin and get
some other information for them to officially sign up for
the program. Sheila also had spoken about picking up another
woman on the way there who was also going to
sign up for services. Kevin Senior told them to go
ahead and go and he was going to stay back
behind and put away the groceries that they had just
(13:50):
gotten home with. Angelina and baby Kevin got into this
woman's car, which is described as a gray or silver
four door sedan, and off they went. Sheila drove to
a remote location near base and went ahead and asked
Angelina to get out and go knock on the door
to let the other woman know that her ride was there.
(14:12):
When Angelina got out, Sheila drove off with baby Kevin
in broad daylight. In nineteen eighty in California, this woman, Sheila,
kidnapped Kevin Junior. Angelina, of course, was distraught, upset, crying,
flailing her arms around. Not only was her baby gone,
(14:33):
but she was left stranded, and I'm sure she was
so confused. A passerby spotted her and drove her to
the police station, where she reported that somebody had taken
Kevin Junior. Upon learning of what happened, law enforcement began
questioning other residents of the apartment complex, and they learned
that Sheila had been around the complex for several days
(14:55):
leading up to Kevin's abduction. She was asking questions of
re almost like she was looking for a specific type
of baby. They thought that she was looking for one
younger than six months old. A lot of the residents
of the complex that were interviewed also believed that Sheila
was pregnant. She also discussed having ties to the Philippines
(15:18):
and had spoken about traveling there before it even possibly
had spoken the language, and it seems with her essentially
taking Kevin Junior, that she very much was looking for
a specific type of baby, a boy, and one that
had ties to the Philippines. Kevin Senior is Caucasian and
Angelina is from the Philippines. One could possibly assume that
(15:42):
Shila likely had a partner that was from the Philippines,
so she needed a baby that fit that bill. After
Kevin was taken, the San Diego FBI worked to try
and locate Kevin Junior in the beginning, but after a
few months, the media coverage and attention on Kevin Junior's
case unfortunately died down. He still remains missing forty five
(16:05):
years later. With talking to the other residents of the complex,
they were able to come up with a composite sketch
of Shila, and in my opinion for being done way
back when in nineteen eighty, I think the sketch is
pretty good, and there is one that depicts her with
and without glasses. But keep in mind this was from
(16:27):
nineteen eighty so this is how she looked back then.
She could look significantly different now. Shila is described as
around twenty years old, around five foot two inches tall,
and around one hundred and twenty pounds. She did appear
to be pregnant. She had red or blonde, frizzy hair
and glasses, and the hair could have been a wig
(16:50):
and the glasses could have been part of her disguise.
She did have a specific type of tattoo, which is
described as the following a circle tattoo with the cross
inside of it between her thumb and index finger inside
of that web area between those two fingers located on
her left hand. This is a pretty identifiable feature. Angeline
(17:14):
talked about in the session at Crime Con that there
is a typical profile for an infinite abductor. Typically they
are going to be a female of child bearing age.
They often will be married or in a relationship. They
might express the desire to have a child or talk
about possibly losing a child previously. They are most likely
(17:38):
compulsive and they can be very manipulative. We see it
sometimes where it is somebody that is known to the abductor.
We saw this in the Heidi Broussard case. Heidi and
her daughter were taken by Heidi's best friend, and her
best friend ended up taking Heidie's life and abducting her
baby girl. But then again, we also see a stranger
(18:00):
abduction type of situation where typically the person that is
doing the abducting is posing as somebody that is there
to help. In Kevin Junior's case, it was a social worker.
Sometimes it's a nurse or somebody else in the healthcare field,
and that is exactly what happened in this case. Sheila
pretended to be a social worker. She spent several days
(18:22):
at the apartment complex speaking with dozens of residents about
this help program, essentially going door to door looking for
a specific type of baby, and given the fact that
she was on the search essentially for a couple of
days before she eventually reapproached the Verville family, it's all
(18:43):
very interesting because this type of behavior is obviously impulsive behavior. However,
we see a very methodical, meticulously planned, manipulative approach to
getting these people to trust her by presenting herself as
(19:04):
a social worker, by presenting this program that's going to
help with diapers and formula and other basic infit needs.
Because yeah, having a baby is expensive. It was expensive
in nineteen eighty, it's expensive now.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So this woman.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Really played on that and used that as a manipulative
tactic to get them to trust her. And given the
fact that this woman, Sheila, was so young as well
and appear to be pregnant, why wouldn't the.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Revills have trusted her.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They had no reason not to trust this woman was
with the help program and were there to help them.
So the Reville family keeps up the search for Kevin Junior.
Kevin Junior's sister, Angelica, who was born after his abduction,
has become a very important part of trying to find
her brother. Angelina and fortunately has suffered from a couple
(20:01):
of strokes and is no longer verbal. Her daughter, Angelica
is now her mother's voice and she works alongside of
her parents to try and raise awareness about Kevin Junior's
abduction and his case. The National Center for Missing and
Exploited Children have done some amazing work to help this family.
They are the reason that I'm bringing you Kevin's story today.
(20:24):
Kevin Junior's family were brave enough to get on stage
at Crime Con in front of a very large crowd
alongside Angeline Hartman and share Kevin's story with us. Angelina
and Kevin Senior were so young when this happened, just
twenty one and twenty two years old. Imagine your whole
world being ripped from you when you were still so
(20:47):
young trying to navigate life as new parents. My heart
truly breaks for them, and as you can see, this
still deeply affects them to this day.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It has been forty five years. Likely for them it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Feels simultaneously like an eternity and also probably just yesterday.
I cover a lot of cases, and a lot of
them are tragic, a lot of them are sad, but
this one very much struck a nerve with me, and
I want so badly for this family to find Kevin.
A case that spans forty five years, A family that
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desperately wants to find their son, a now forty five
year old adult Kevin, who quite possibly doesn't even know
that he is a missing person and that his family
is out there looking for him. And that is where
all of.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You come in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
How can we, as a true crime content consumer community,
really make a difference. First of all, go follow Kevin's
Family's Facebook page, which, like I said, I'm going to
link below. Second of all, with a renewed interest in
Kevin's case and Angelica pushing investigators about the status of
(22:07):
her brother's case, the National Center for Missing Unexploited Children
has come up with an age progress photo of Kevin. They,
of course, are working on limited information. Kevin was only
seventeen days old when he was kidnapped, so the number
of photos of him are limited. But their age progress
photos very much always blow me away with their accuracy,
(22:30):
and they do take a lot of time and they
use many different resources to come up with those photos.
So I'm going to ask you to please share that
age progress photo of Kevin. Share the composite sketch of
the abductor Sheila. Her tattoo, in my opinion, is pretty identifiable,
but we also have to remember that this is a
(22:51):
long time ago and that tattoo might possibly have changed
or been covered up, or possibly even removed. If you
lived in California in nineteen eighty and you knew anybody
that had a newborn baby who was half Caucasian half Filipino,
if you know of anyone that looks similar to the
(23:12):
age progress photo of Kevin Junior, if you saw something,
if you heard something. If something clicks when you hear
this story, you are encouraged to reach out to the
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at one eight hundred,
the Lost, or the FBI at one eight hundred, call
(23:32):
FBI and tips dot FBI dot gov. The FBI is
honoring their ten thousand dollars reward leading to information for
the location of Kevinverville Junior and the apprehension of his kidnapper.
There are power in numbers. We can make a difference
in Kevinverville's case. We can help his family. We can
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share this story, we can share the age progress photo
and the composite sketch of the abductor, and we can
keep the Verville family in our prayers and hope that
twenty twenty five is the year that they get answers
and finally find their son.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
For tuning in today and listening to Kevin Verville Junior story.
Like I said at the top of the episode, it
is such an important one and I very much just
want to help get the word out spread the message
about Kevin's story and that his family is still here,
they are still looking for him, and they are not
(24:37):
going to give up until he is returned home. Check
out my social media Instagram and Facebook. If you aren't
following me over there. On Instagram, it's at Primetime Crime pod.
Remember that's Crime with the K. And on Facebook you
can just search for Primetime Crime and my page should
pop up. I'm going to be sharing photos of Kevin,
(24:59):
the age progress photo of Kevin, and also the photos
of the kidnapper Sheila. Please take a minute to share
those photos to your social media. You never know who
was going to happen upon it, and maybe they'll remember
something that they didn't even know was significant, and that
tip could end up changing the trajectory of a case forever.
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So that is why we share, That is why we
take to social media, and that is why it's so
important for us as a community to come together because
it's not, at the end of the day about entertaining stories.
These are real people with real lives, and the best
way we can pay it forward to help this family
(25:42):
is by talking about Kevin Junior's case and sharing his
story to the masses. Get it out there, get as
many people on board as we can. I did a
message Angelica to let her know that I was going
to be covering Kevin's case, and I asked her if
there was anything that she wanted me to and she said,
(26:02):
you know, her parents are both elderly now. They're both
not in greatest of health, unfortunately, and they have lived
their whole lives wondering where their son is, who took
their son, and they very much hope that Kevin Junior
can be found before they pass away. And that, I
(26:23):
think really puts it into perspective how much we need
to all work together as a community to get this
story out and to really help this family, to rally
around them, because there is power in numbers, and I
fully believe that with my heart and soul that we
as a true crime community can help propel this story
(26:46):
and get it out there to the right people. It
is so so important. I know I always talk about that,
but in this one, I think it is so important
that we all rally around the Reville family and really
do whatever we can to help them. So I really
do thank you guys so much for listening to this story.
(27:07):
Please join the Facebook page. I'm going to link that below,
and I'm going to also link all of the source
material I used for this episode.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
As well.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Like I said, Nick Mick has done amazing work kind
of bringing everything together and helping this family. They even
did a recreation of what happened that day, an actual
video recreation, and it absolutely will just break your heart.
I'm going to link that below so you guys can
watch that as well. But there are power and numbers,
(27:39):
and this is one case where I truly think we
can make a difference if we all just come together
and do a simple click and share that could reach
the right person.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You just never know.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So thank you guys so much as always for listening.
Please support the Verville family. They need it now more
than ever, So thank you guys so much. I will
see you next week for a brand new unsolved case,
and I hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Stay safe. Bye,
Welcome to Primetime Crime. I'm your host, Kylie. Let's talk
right now in true crime, and then together we are
going to work on warming up some cold cases.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Primetime Crime. It's Kylie.
I am just getting over being sick. My voice is
probably not what it should be, but we are slowly
but surely getting there. So let's dive into right now
in true crime. So last Wednesday, so it's not something
I included on right now in True Crime last week,
(00:32):
but they exhumed the body of Henry Bodard.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I've covered his case here on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
He was murdered in nineteen seventy four and his homicide
remains a mystery. But officials confirmed that they were actively
working on Henry's case and that they were taking the
body for autopsy. Now, they did say there was no
significance for why they chose last Wednesday as day for
(01:00):
the exhumation, but they did say that the court order
to do the exhumation was based on a result of
information recently received, according to a press release, So it's
going to be really interesting to see what happens with this.
He was murdered in the woods not far from his home,
(01:20):
and he is the one that was killed where they
believe that the weapon was this very specific baseball bat
that was found at the scene. They have pictures of it.
They're specific carvings. I did the episode not too long ago,
so you can easily go back and look at that.
But Henry was only a fifteen year old boy. He
was on his way home and his life was violently taken.
(01:42):
So I am so hopeful with the exhumation that hopefully
they kind of have a direction in which they're going
and that they are going to be able to solve
Henry's case, because I'm seeing it more and more lately
these cases that are unsolved. Time is running out for
the perpetrators because technology is advancing so rapidly that they
(02:07):
are doing everything they can to try to keep up
and try to rerun DNA with the new technology that
is ever ever evolving.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But I really do.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Believe that time is running out for these perpetrators, and
every day we get closer and closer to solving these
cold cases. And nothing makes me more fired up than
hearing about cold cases being solved, because that is literally
why I do what I do as a cold case
true crime podcaster. I want to bring attention to these
(02:38):
lesser known cases, to keep them in the forefront, but
also in hopes that one day I'm going to be
telling you that they have been solved, so I will
keep you updated. In Henry's case, I am very hopeful,
all right, Moving on to the ditty of it all.
He was sentenced to four years plus a couple of months.
I want to say, I think it equated to about
(02:59):
fifty weeks, and he's already been obviously incarcerated for a
period of time. I think he has to serve at
least eighty five percent of his sentence, so he could
be out sooner rather than later. I think it is terrible.
I think it's despicable. This is a not good person.
(03:23):
He has done a lot of bad things. I know
he was found not guilty of some of the more
horrific charges, but the fact that his victims spoke out
against him, spoke out against him receiving a light sentence,
and the judge turned around and said, I'm going to
show people like Diddy that want to do crimes like
(03:44):
what Diddy did, I'm going to show them that we
mean business. And then sentence him to four years. It
just doesn't really equate for me. But anyways, I don't
really have much more to say about it. I think
it's disgusting. I think he should be incarcerated for far
longer than what two years that he has left. A
year and a half that he has left. And that's
(04:06):
all I'm going to say about it because I think
it's gross. So onto other trial news. October twentieth was
supposed to be the start of the trial against Brian
Walsh for allegedly murdering his wife on a Walsh.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So he was.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Attacked in prison, I want to say, a couple of
weeks ago, and now they want to do a mental
health competency evaluation on him because he's allegedly been having
a lot of issues since he attacked and stabbed, and
he has been I guess having issues. He was sent
(04:43):
to a hospital for twenty days for testing following the stabbing,
so it's this ongoing thing. So they are going to
reevaluate him or evaluate him for basically mental preparedness for
is he competent to stand t trial. So this alleged
murder took place in twenty twenty three. They have never
(05:05):
found Anna's body to this date, So it's going to
be interesting to see what happens as far as this goes,
how much longer his trial will be postponed, if he
is deemed mentally competent, when they're going to reschedule that
for and if he's found not mentally competent, what is
(05:26):
going to go on from there? So this is an
ever evolving saga, but I will continue to keep you
guys updated on this one. But I personally, my own
opinion is that he's just trying to do everything he
can to avoid going to trial because he knows that
the evidence is there and it's not going to be
good for him. Again, that is just my own personal opinion.
(05:47):
So last thing I want to talk about is there
is new developments in the Corey Richins case. She has
asked the judge to reevaluate her bail and the conditions
of her release based on this new development, and we're
going to talk about what the new development is. So,
for those that don't remember, Corey is accused of murdering
(06:08):
her husband, Eric Richards by spiking his drink with fentanyls.
She made him the mosquiyamule to celebrate and he ended
up passing away from a fentanyl overdose. Then she proceeded
to write a children's book on grief and kind of
go on a press circuit marketing this book about grief
(06:29):
after everything transpired.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So, the fentanyl that she got.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Allegedly she got from their housekeeper, and then they had
somebody else that allegedly sold the housekeeper fentanyl, so she
was basically the middleman for this feentanyl. But the guy
that originally claimed that he sold the housekeeper the fentanyl
is now recanting.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
So this is the basis of which.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Corey and her team want the bail reconceives uttered and
to talk a little bit about the conditions of her release,
because this guy was pretty much a star witness for
the prosecution and now he has recanted everything. And of
course Corey's team is basically saying, if this man recanted
and they cannot physically place the fentanyl in Corey's possession,
(07:20):
then they don't have a case. So it is going
to be interesting to see what comes of this. I
will keep you guys updated with any new developments. I
feel like this is one that I feel like has
just gone on and on and on. There's been multiple
things that have been brought up, and ultimately, I think
everybody wants justice for Eric because I don't personally believe
(07:44):
that he ingested all of that fentanyl knowingly, especially because
he had expressed that if anything ever happened to him,
that they needed to look at Corey. He had apparently
had some feelings that she might try to kill him,
so I don't think that those things are just random.
I don't think he would say that just to say it,
(08:05):
and apparently she had also tried to poison him prior allegedly,
so I don't think that any of this is unfound.
I do think that this witness is a huge blow
to the prosecution, but I think that with everything else
they have, they'll probably be able to pull this off
at least I'm hopeful for that, but I will continue
to keep you updated on that. At the end of
(08:26):
the day, I really just want them to get justice
for Eric Ritchens because he very much deserves it. He
did not deserve to have his life stolen like that
in such a horrible way. But like I said, I'll
continue to keep you guys updated. If there's any new developments,
I will be sure to bring them to you. Here,
and with all of that being said, we are going
to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And get into today's episode.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, guys, today we are jumping in to a very
very important episode. The more people that hear this episode,
the more people that see the photos that I'm going
to be sharing on my Instagram and Facebook pages, the
higher chance we have at reuniting Kevin Verville Junior with
(09:09):
his family and ending this forty five year old mystery.
What happened to Kevin Verville Junior? I hinted about doing
this episode when I did my Crime Con recap. This
story is an infant abduction story that I first became
familiar with when I listened to my friend Holly's podcast,
(09:30):
which is Crime with Holly. I'm going to link the
episode below so you guys can go listen to it.
And in that episode, Holly interviewed Angeline Hartman from Nick Mick,
and she shared Kevin's story with Holly and her listeners.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And then when I went to Crime.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Con, I was able to attend the session that was
about Kevin Junior and got to hear directly from his family,
and I knew immediately that I needed to cover Kevin's
case on my podcast. His case is exactly the type
of case that I want to cover on my podcast
because it's one that is solvable, and it's one that
(10:10):
the more people that hear it and see it, there
is a higher likelihood that Kevin could be reunited with
his family. His type of case is the reason I
have a podcast that covers unsolved cold cases. I cover
people who are missing, and I also cover people that
don't even know that they are missing, and that is
(10:31):
what we're going to be talking about today. I have
previously covered the story of Steve Carter who one day
just kind of got a wild hair and thought that
something didn't quite add up in his life and his
upbringing and decided that he wanted to try to figure
out who his true identity was. And he did that
(10:52):
and found out his true identity was Marx Barnes. You
guys can go back and listen to that episode for
a little more context, but he very much discovered his
own identity after decades of just thinking something wasn't quite right.
So today we get to hear Kevin's story. It's a
(11:13):
very emotional one and seeing his family still fight for
answers and fight for justice after forty five years really
puts it all into perspective. They've lived with this horrific
tragedy most of their lives and they're not giving up
trying to find Kevin. And that is where we all
come in as a true crime consumer community. I always
(11:37):
preach sharing these episodes, and I mean that for every
single one, so this one is no different. Share this episode,
share the social media posts, and follow Kevin's family as
they've started a Facebook page to try and raise awareness
about his case. I'll link that below in the show
notes as well. Let's go ahead and get into Kevin's
(11:59):
story now. Kevin Art Verville Junior was born on June
fourteenth of nineteen eighty to his parents, Kevin Verville Senior
and Angelina Verville. Kevin Senior was a Marine corporal and
was twenty one years old, and Angelina was twenty two.
They were newly married just two years before they had
(12:20):
Kevin Junior. After Kevin Junior was born, they spent about
a week in the hospital due to Kevin having jaundice,
but they finally got to bring their baby home. The
new family of three settled into their home, which was
an off base apartment complex called Sterling Homes. It was
located near Camp Pendleton in Oceanside, California. Everything changed on
(12:43):
July one of nineteen eighty. Kevin Junior was only seventeen
days old. The family had just returned home from the
grocery store. They didn't even get a chance to get
inside of their home when they were approached again by
a woman who in the days before had introduced herself
as Sheila and said she worked for a program called
(13:06):
Help and said that she was a social worker with
this program. The Help program essentially helped low income military
families with diapers and formula and other infant needs. The
Verville family had decided that they did want to go
ahead and sign up for this program. Sheila offered to
take Angelina and baby Kevin to the Social services office,
(13:30):
as they would need to weigh baby Kevin and get
some other information for them to officially sign up for
the program. Sheila also had spoken about picking up another
woman on the way there who was also going to
sign up for services. Kevin Senior told them to go
ahead and go and he was going to stay back
behind and put away the groceries that they had just
(13:50):
gotten home with. Angelina and baby Kevin got into this
woman's car, which is described as a gray or silver
four door sedan, and off they went. Sheila drove to
a remote location near base and went ahead and asked
Angelina to get out and go knock on the door
to let the other woman know that her ride was there.
(14:12):
When Angelina got out, Sheila drove off with baby Kevin
in broad daylight. In nineteen eighty in California, this woman, Sheila,
kidnapped Kevin Junior. Angelina, of course, was distraught, upset, crying,
flailing her arms around. Not only was her baby gone,
(14:33):
but she was left stranded, and I'm sure she was
so confused. A passerby spotted her and drove her to
the police station, where she reported that somebody had taken
Kevin Junior. Upon learning of what happened, law enforcement began
questioning other residents of the apartment complex, and they learned
that Sheila had been around the complex for several days
(14:55):
leading up to Kevin's abduction. She was asking questions of
re almost like she was looking for a specific type
of baby. They thought that she was looking for one
younger than six months old. A lot of the residents
of the complex that were interviewed also believed that Sheila
was pregnant. She also discussed having ties to the Philippines
(15:18):
and had spoken about traveling there before it even possibly
had spoken the language, and it seems with her essentially
taking Kevin Junior, that she very much was looking for
a specific type of baby, a boy, and one that
had ties to the Philippines. Kevin Senior is Caucasian and
Angelina is from the Philippines. One could possibly assume that
(15:42):
Shila likely had a partner that was from the Philippines,
so she needed a baby that fit that bill. After
Kevin was taken, the San Diego FBI worked to try
and locate Kevin Junior in the beginning, but after a
few months, the media coverage and attention on Kevin Junior's
case unfortunately died down. He still remains missing forty five
(16:05):
years later. With talking to the other residents of the complex,
they were able to come up with a composite sketch
of Shila, and in my opinion for being done way
back when in nineteen eighty, I think the sketch is
pretty good, and there is one that depicts her with
and without glasses. But keep in mind this was from
(16:27):
nineteen eighty so this is how she looked back then.
She could look significantly different now. Shila is described as
around twenty years old, around five foot two inches tall,
and around one hundred and twenty pounds. She did appear
to be pregnant. She had red or blonde, frizzy hair
and glasses, and the hair could have been a wig
(16:50):
and the glasses could have been part of her disguise.
She did have a specific type of tattoo, which is
described as the following a circle tattoo with the cross
inside of it between her thumb and index finger inside
of that web area between those two fingers located on
her left hand. This is a pretty identifiable feature. Angeline
(17:14):
talked about in the session at Crime Con that there
is a typical profile for an infinite abductor. Typically they
are going to be a female of child bearing age.
They often will be married or in a relationship. They
might express the desire to have a child or talk
about possibly losing a child previously. They are most likely
(17:38):
compulsive and they can be very manipulative. We see it
sometimes where it is somebody that is known to the abductor.
We saw this in the Heidi Broussard case. Heidi and
her daughter were taken by Heidi's best friend, and her
best friend ended up taking Heidie's life and abducting her
baby girl. But then again, we also see a stranger
(18:00):
abduction type of situation where typically the person that is
doing the abducting is posing as somebody that is there
to help. In Kevin Junior's case, it was a social worker.
Sometimes it's a nurse or somebody else in the healthcare field,
and that is exactly what happened in this case. Sheila
pretended to be a social worker. She spent several days
(18:22):
at the apartment complex speaking with dozens of residents about
this help program, essentially going door to door looking for
a specific type of baby, and given the fact that
she was on the search essentially for a couple of
days before she eventually reapproached the Verville family, it's all
(18:43):
very interesting because this type of behavior is obviously impulsive behavior. However,
we see a very methodical, meticulously planned, manipulative approach to
getting these people to trust her by presenting herself as
(19:04):
a social worker, by presenting this program that's going to
help with diapers and formula and other basic infit needs.
Because yeah, having a baby is expensive. It was expensive
in nineteen eighty, it's expensive now.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So this woman.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Really played on that and used that as a manipulative
tactic to get them to trust her. And given the
fact that this woman, Sheila, was so young as well
and appear to be pregnant, why wouldn't the.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Revills have trusted her.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
They had no reason not to trust this woman was
with the help program and were there to help them.
So the Reville family keeps up the search for Kevin Junior.
Kevin Junior's sister, Angelica, who was born after his abduction,
has become a very important part of trying to find
her brother. Angelina and fortunately has suffered from a couple
(20:01):
of strokes and is no longer verbal. Her daughter, Angelica
is now her mother's voice and she works alongside of
her parents to try and raise awareness about Kevin Junior's
abduction and his case. The National Center for Missing and
Exploited Children have done some amazing work to help this family.
They are the reason that I'm bringing you Kevin's story today.
(20:24):
Kevin Junior's family were brave enough to get on stage
at Crime Con in front of a very large crowd
alongside Angeline Hartman and share Kevin's story with us. Angelina
and Kevin Senior were so young when this happened, just
twenty one and twenty two years old. Imagine your whole
world being ripped from you when you were still so
(20:47):
young trying to navigate life as new parents. My heart
truly breaks for them, and as you can see, this
still deeply affects them to this day.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
It has been forty five years. Likely for them it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Feels simultaneously like an eternity and also probably just yesterday.
I cover a lot of cases, and a lot of
them are tragic, a lot of them are sad, but
this one very much struck a nerve with me, and
I want so badly for this family to find Kevin.
A case that spans forty five years, A family that
(21:28):
desperately wants to find their son, a now forty five
year old adult Kevin, who quite possibly doesn't even know
that he is a missing person and that his family
is out there looking for him. And that is where
all of.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You come in.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
How can we, as a true crime content consumer community,
really make a difference. First of all, go follow Kevin's
Family's Facebook page, which, like I said, I'm going to
link below. Second of all, with a renewed interest in
Kevin's case and Angelica pushing investigators about the status of
(22:07):
her brother's case, the National Center for Missing Unexploited Children
has come up with an age progress photo of Kevin. They,
of course, are working on limited information. Kevin was only
seventeen days old when he was kidnapped, so the number
of photos of him are limited. But their age progress
photos very much always blow me away with their accuracy,
(22:30):
and they do take a lot of time and they
use many different resources to come up with those photos.
So I'm going to ask you to please share that
age progress photo of Kevin. Share the composite sketch of
the abductor Sheila. Her tattoo, in my opinion, is pretty identifiable,
but we also have to remember that this is a
(22:51):
long time ago and that tattoo might possibly have changed
or been covered up, or possibly even removed. If you
lived in California in nineteen eighty and you knew anybody
that had a newborn baby who was half Caucasian half Filipino,
if you know of anyone that looks similar to the
(23:12):
age progress photo of Kevin Junior, if you saw something,
if you heard something. If something clicks when you hear
this story, you are encouraged to reach out to the
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at one eight hundred,
the Lost, or the FBI at one eight hundred, call
(23:32):
FBI and tips dot FBI dot gov. The FBI is
honoring their ten thousand dollars reward leading to information for
the location of Kevinverville Junior and the apprehension of his kidnapper.
There are power in numbers. We can make a difference
in Kevinverville's case. We can help his family. We can
(23:56):
share this story, we can share the age progress photo
and the composite sketch of the abductor, and we can
keep the Verville family in our prayers and hope that
twenty twenty five is the year that they get answers
and finally find their son.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
For tuning in today and listening to Kevin Verville Junior story.
Like I said at the top of the episode, it
is such an important one and I very much just
want to help get the word out spread the message
about Kevin's story and that his family is still here,
they are still looking for him, and they are not
(24:37):
going to give up until he is returned home. Check
out my social media Instagram and Facebook. If you aren't
following me over there. On Instagram, it's at Primetime Crime pod.
Remember that's Crime with the K. And on Facebook you
can just search for Primetime Crime and my page should
pop up. I'm going to be sharing photos of Kevin,
(24:59):
the age progress photo of Kevin, and also the photos
of the kidnapper Sheila. Please take a minute to share
those photos to your social media. You never know who
was going to happen upon it, and maybe they'll remember
something that they didn't even know was significant, and that
tip could end up changing the trajectory of a case forever.
(25:21):
So that is why we share, That is why we
take to social media, and that is why it's so
important for us as a community to come together because
it's not, at the end of the day about entertaining stories.
These are real people with real lives, and the best
way we can pay it forward to help this family
(25:42):
is by talking about Kevin Junior's case and sharing his
story to the masses. Get it out there, get as
many people on board as we can. I did a
message Angelica to let her know that I was going
to be covering Kevin's case, and I asked her if
there was anything that she wanted me to and she said,
(26:02):
you know, her parents are both elderly now. They're both
not in greatest of health, unfortunately, and they have lived
their whole lives wondering where their son is, who took
their son, and they very much hope that Kevin Junior
can be found before they pass away. And that, I
(26:23):
think really puts it into perspective how much we need
to all work together as a community to get this
story out and to really help this family, to rally
around them, because there is power in numbers, and I
fully believe that with my heart and soul that we
as a true crime community can help propel this story
(26:46):
and get it out there to the right people. It
is so so important. I know I always talk about that,
but in this one, I think it is so important
that we all rally around the Reville family and really
do whatever we can to help them. So I really
do thank you guys so much for listening to this story.
(27:07):
Please join the Facebook page. I'm going to link that below,
and I'm going to also link all of the source
material I used for this episode.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
As well.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Like I said, Nick Mick has done amazing work kind
of bringing everything together and helping this family. They even
did a recreation of what happened that day, an actual
video recreation, and it absolutely will just break your heart.
I'm going to link that below so you guys can
watch that as well. But there are power and numbers,
(27:39):
and this is one case where I truly think we
can make a difference if we all just come together
and do a simple click and share that could reach
the right person.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You just never know.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So thank you guys so much as always for listening.
Please support the Verville family. They need it now more
than ever, So thank you guys so much. I will
see you next week for a brand new unsolved case,
and I hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Stay safe. Bye,
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