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Hosts Beck and Dash chat on Queernecks about returning to a boxing gym, favorite salty-sweet snacks, novelty candies, and hometown-made products (BG Campbell’s/Heinz, Portsmouth shoelaces, Cincinnati schnapps). They swap train stories, including meeting recently released prisoners on an Amtrak ride to Chicago and observing re-entry moments and public-transportation dynamics. The conversation shifts to martial arts, nostalgia TV (Cobra Kai), and a critique of right-wing grift and “reverse racism,” then broadens into religion, atheism, church-based community, safe spaces, anti-trans politics, gerrymandering, and voting rights. A comedic sponsor bit covers raggedy flip-flops, followed by personal relationship and work-life balance talk. The “noun of Appalachian interest” spotlights the Appalachian Mountains’ age, culture, directions, and lasting identity, with side notes on Kentucky’s Chain Rock, Serpent Mound, Tecumseh drama, and Krispy Kreme donuts.

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00:00 Welcome to Queernecks

00:16 Saturday Catch Up

00:41 Back to Boxing

01:47 Salty Sweet Snacks

02:41 Chocolate Chip Debate

04:19 Pringles Facts Rabbit Hole

06:05 Local Famous Products

07:37 Prison Town Stories

09:12 Train Ride Reentry Moments

14:48 Nineties Nostalgia

16:11 Martial Arts and Cobra Kai

20:51 Erica Kirk and Grift Talk

24:27 Faith Doubt and Community

28:51 Safe Spaces and Politics

30:57 Voting Fairness and Power

31:51 Apartment Hunting Fails

32:52 Bulk Buying and Coupons

33:38 Raggedy Flip Flop Sponsor

36:28 Feet and Toenail Confessions

38:30 Work Stress and Impact

41:03 Appalachian Mountains Spotlight

43:49 Local Legends and Landmarks

47:50 Donut Debates and Sweet Treats

49:39 Hometown Factories and Farewell

Episode Transcript

Beck (2) (00:07):
Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that puts the
yehaw in y'all means all.
I'm your host, Beck.

Dash (00:12):
And I am your host, Dash.
Welcome to today's episode
. Mm, happy Saturday.

Beck (2) (00:19):
Yes.
It is Saturday.
Shanna's working till 4:00, so I'm justhere waiting on my lunch to get here.

Dash (00:27):
What,

Beck (2) (00:27):
What, what Oh, I'm waiting on her.
Like, she'll bring my lunch.

Dash (00:31):
got it.

Beck (2) (00:32):
Oh, okay.
She usually gets off at 2:00, andso I eat around 2:30, but she won't
be home till after 4:00 today, somy tummy is like, "Arr, arr, arr."

Dash (00:41):
I went back to...
So this boxing gym I used to goto, it's, like, over an hour drive.
It's like an hour and 15-minutedrive where I live now.
I used to go to it when I wasliving up in, up on campus.
But I s- and I had bought,like, a punch card.
That's how they do it, and I hada bunch of punches left, and I was
like, "Well, I'm not doing anything."

(01:03):
easier to drive the truck longerdistances than it was the car, so
it's, like, it doesn't hurt as much.
So I s- started going back n-not to, like, the main class,
but just they do this, like,circuit training fitness class.
So I've gone back to it a fewtimes, and it's nice to, like,
basically just move around.
And I told her, I was like, "Look, here'sthe, here's what I've had going on.

(01:26):
I'm not gonna be, hitting it100%," and stuff like that.
Just wanna move around and be aroundpeople and, you know, be, be around
something that I actually enjoy.
And she was like, "Yeah, whatever.
I don't care."
But do

Beck (2) (01:39):
I- There's

Dash (01:47):
out," and so I'll get, like, a giant bag of pretzels and, like,
maybe a candy bar or, those, youknow those, uh, dipped pr- pretzels?

Beck (2) (01:57):
my current obsession.

Dash (01:59):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We,

Beck (2) (02:00):
Yeah.

Dash (02:00):
remember you talking about them.
There's a bunch ofdifferent brands of them.
There's a Hershey's brand, too, andso I got, that's what I got after I
finished boxing class last night, wasjust a big bag of those, and I ate
the whole fucking bag on the way home.

Beck (2) (02:13):
They're so good.
Cho- Like, salty and sweetis my favorite combination

Dash (02:17):
yeah.

Beck (2) (02:18):
the best combination I've ever found is buttered popcorn and Kit Kat.
If you ever get a chance to trythat, and I'm not even a big Kit
Kat fan, but you try those twothings together, it is delicious.

Dash (02:27):
Grader's ha- uh, well, several brands have a, uh, I think it's a
Chicago style caramel popcorn, halfuh, cheddar popcorn in the same bag.
Like,

Beck (2) (02:37):
Oh, wow.

Dash (02:38):
together.
it's, it's something.
There was a, a Reese's...
You, you know those, like,those thick boys that they make?
Like, the cups that are double?
There's one that has, like, some fudgein the bottom, and one that has caramel
on the bottom, and for a while there,I haven't seen them in a long time,
they had Lay's potato chips crumpled up

Beck (2) (02:59):
Yeah.
Yep, I saw those before.
Yep.

Dash (03:01):
I, I wish I had tried them.
At the time I was like, "That soundsawful," and so I didn't try it, and now I
think they you know, stopped doing them,and now I'm like, just to say that I had I

Beck (2) (03:13):
I'm pretty sure Shanna tried them, 'cause they had them
on sale at like a gas stationthat we went to or something.
They were like a dollarapiece or whatever.
So I got them for her, and she triedthem, and she said they were good.
Nothing special.
They were just Reese cups.

Dash (03:26):
My thought was that the, the chip would get soggy,

Beck (2) (03:29):
That's what I thought, too.

Dash (03:30):
crispy.
that.

Beck (2) (03:33):
they do make chocolate covered potato chips that you can buy.
That's a

Dash (03:37):
Oh, these pictures are not it.
Ooh, this looks like a cow pie.

Beck (2) (03:47):
Ew.

Dash (03:48):
I- I mean, you know, they may be good.
I kinda doubt it, but the,just this image is gonna be...
It's gonna stay with me.
Let me share my screen.

Beck (2) (03:56):
Ew.
They do look like little turds.

Dash (03:59):
Look.
Oh.
That's not any better.

Beck (2) (04:02):
The ones in the middle there look okay 'cause they have the ridges, but
the, the, the bumpy ones are just gross.

Dash (04:10):
the lumps come from?

Beck (2) (04:14):
And why are they using Pringles?

Dash (04:15):
Is that wh-

Beck (2) (04:16):
It was a Pringle shape.

Dash (04:18):
get real soggy.

Beck (2) (04:19):
Yeah.
You know those aren't even consideredto be potato for legal purposes?

Dash (04:23):
No, I didn't know that.

Beck (2) (04:25):
Mm-hmm.

Dash (04:26):
What are they?

Beck (2) (04:27):
Starch of some sort.
It was an import/export thing,and they had to define them, and
they defined that as not potato.

Dash (04:34):
Okay, yeah, a dough of dehydrated, processed potato flakes and corn
flour, rice flour, and wheat starch.
So it is about 42%dehydrated potato flake.
I love Pringles,

Beck (2) (04:51):
Yeah, they're pretty good.
Did you know the man that,

Dash (04:53):
Did

Beck (2) (04:54):
invented the Pringles can was buried in a Pringles can?
In a, uh, like, a life-size Pringles can?

Dash (05:00):
No.
Did you know that the guy on, the,the Pringles man is based on a real
person, an author named Gene Wolfe?

Beck (2) (05:08):
didn't.

Dash (05:10):
you.
He wrote some of my favorite sci-fi books.
his little hat.
When he was younger, it definitely...

Beck (2) (05:20):
fancy mustache, yeah.

Dash (05:22):
Yeah.

Beck (2) (05:23):
It's a fancy mustache.

Dash (05:24):
And I don't, I, I don't know the story.
Like, how did they choose him?
Was it a friend?
You know?
I don't know.
Makes you wonder if the, is thePlanters peanut guy based on somebody?

Beck (2) (05:35):
That's a good question

Dash (05:36):
Mr.
Peanut was created in 1916 based ona winning contest submission by a
14-year-old schoolboy named AntonioGentile from Suffolk, Virginia.

Beck (2) (05:48):
I know a guy with the last name Gentile.

Dash (05:49):
Hmm.
Cool.
Are peanuts from Virg- are planters?

Beck (2) (05:53):
Have you ever had boiled peanuts?

Dash (05:55):
Yes.

Beck (2) (05:56):
think they're

Dash (05:58):
it, w- it does something to, like, the texture,

Beck (2) (06:01):
it does something to the peanut.
Yeah, they become mushy.
Who wants a mushy peanut?
that Did you know thatCampbell's soup is here near BG?
and the Heinz ketchup was,uh, out of BG directly.
I, I think that is so coolthat BG had Heinz ketchup.

(06:22):
It's, like, one of the mostfamous products from America.
And it was made right there.
Where the old plant was
closed

Dash (06:29):
stadium was, I

Beck (2) (06:30):
down.
Yeah.
Well, it was by the, kind of bythe old newspaper that's shut down.

Dash (06:36):
Hmm.
What, what was, like, the mostmaybe, like, nationally or
internationally recognized thingfrom where you are, where you

Beck (2) (06:43):
What, what was one of the most famous Portsmouth?
Oh, that's easy.
Shoelaces.
We, the shoelaces, it's oneof the only places left in the
country that makes shoelaces.
Mitchell Lace in Portsmouth, Ohio.
It had a huge factory, and now they're,they've, they've moved out of that
factory, and they've got, like a, awork crew of, like, 12 people now.
but they still mass produce,

Dash (07:00):
They

Beck (2) (07:00):
shoe, uh, shoelaces.
And then before that itwas shoes in general.
used to be, like, five shoefactories in Portsmouth.

Dash (07:07):
factories and- There's a lot of shoe stores.
I noticed actually a, alot of, like, cobblers.
Like, you could go and get shoes madewhen I go out there and visit Sabrina.

Beck (2) (07:15):
There used to be a line called Selby Shoes, and
they were, like, very popular.
Like, they were in movies and stuff likethat, and they were made in Portsmouth.

Dash (07:22):
They were- It rings a bell.

Beck (2) (07:23):
There's one of the murals in Portsmouth dedicated
to it actually, to the...
The factory was huge.
It's still there, and it's likejust this huge abomination, you
know, and there's like windowsbroken out of it and everything.
It looks terrible.

Dash (07:37):
Aw.
know, Jellico,
coal

Beck (2) (07:43):
We also have the state prison, like the, uh, not the state
prison, but the one that did the, uh,executions for a long time in Lucasville.
So if anybody said they were going toLucasville, either if you've heard of
Lucasville, you're either from thereor you had somebody go to prison in
your family, is one of those things.
So you know who's, what kind of family...
If you say, "I'm from Lucasville,"people are like, "Ooh."

Dash (08:04):
I, I started to notice, like, after I lived in, I lived in Southern
Illinois for a while and I startednoticing it in all, all, all kinds of
movies, especially movies with, like,escaped, like, psycho killers or escaped

Beck (2) (08:15):
Yeah, they have those in Michigan.

(08:46):
The first time I passed one, I was withthe students for the McNair Project and
we were going to, uh, Niagara Falls.
And we pa- somehow we passed,uh, one of those signs, and I was
like, "Did you guys see that?"
And they were like, "Yeah,that's totally normal."
And I was like, "I have neverseen one of those before."
It was, totally flew me, likeI w- uh, flew me for a loop.

Dash (09:05):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's unnerving.
So I, when, anytime I wanted to goto Chicago when I lived in Southern
Illinois, I would just get onthe Amtrak because, yeah, it took
longer, but it was nicer, you know?
D- riding on trains is
and if they released prisoners orsomething like that, which they did,

(09:26):
you know, pretty much every day somebodygot released, they would put them on
the train if they were going to Chicago.
So I got to meet a ton of peoplewho were released from that prison.
It, it was, like, I've talked to alot of people who have either been,
like, inside or, or a part of, like,America's carceral but never people

(09:48):
who had done that amount of time.
Like, the people I talked to, they haddone decades of time, and they were so...
This one guy, he was sofascinated by Facebook,
like " Do you have a smartphone?"
And I was like, "I do."
And he goes, "I've heard about those."
And I said, "Oh, okay.
Well, you know, this is an iPhone."
And he goes, "Do you have a face page?"

(10:08):
And I said, "Yeah, I do have a face page."
He was like, "I heardyou can look people up."
And I said, " There's afew ways you can do that."
And I said, I waslike, " What do you want?"
And he goes, "Will, will you look me up?"
And I said, "Uh, I will.
Are you sure you want me to do that?
Like, it's gonna come up with yourmugshot or anything like that."
And he's like, "That'sfine, I just, you know..."
And so the other guy that was with him, hewas like this, this really small, quiet,

(10:32):
He was a Latino man, but I don't know,like, I ge- didn't get to talk to him much
to f- enough to find out if he was, like,Mexican or if he was from South America.
And he had a tear tattooed on his face.

Beck (2) (10:42):
Oh, wow.

Dash (10:43):
like, "Would you look me up?"
Yeah.
And I was like, here, I'll look you up."
And his mugshot was so fucking funny.
He, it was so interestinglooking at re-entry, or m-
just kinda being with somebody.
Uh, there was three of them whowere experiencing that re-entry.
so, like, uh, for instance, the dudewho was sitting next to me, he was a, a

(11:05):
pretty big guy, and they don't let themwear r- regular clothes, 'cause if you
c- if they came in with clothes decadesago, right, they're obviously gone by now,
so they're wearing their prison clothes.
They turn them loose, just obviouslythey scream, "I'm coming from prison."
So I would say that that doesn't help themfeel at ease around general population.

(11:27):
And so he was sitting, he sat down nextto me, and he was on the aisle, and
he kept, like, really being activatedwhen people would walk close to him.
And he, he would flinch really big, andhe was like, " I don't want anybody to
make, I don't wanna make anybody feelbad, but I can't help reacting that way,
because if someone's that close to youin the environment I just came from, then

(11:48):
it means that I'm probably in danger."
And I, so I was like, "Doyou wanna switch seats?"
And he said, "No, Ineed to get used to it."
Good God.
Okay.
But he was also, like, just really, reallyenjoying being able to be around people
and use his free will to do nice things.
I, it was so fun to see.
Uh, 'cause he was very tall.
There was a little old sitting across theaisle from us, and she was having trouble

(12:12):
getting her bag up into the top, and hewas like, "Oh, can I help you with that?
I would love to help you with that."
And she was like, " Yeah,please, if you don't care."
The, those two were sweet.
The other guy, he was like, hewas like really, really bothering.
In, from my perspective, he wasbothering this woman, like hitting
on her all the time, asking ifhe could come home with her.

(12:33):
was like, she had it handled.
She was pretending to beasleep, and then she was like,
"What were you in prison for?"
And you know, like, I got up and I w- Ilike pretended to go up to the bathroom,
and then, and when I came back out, Imade eye contact with her and I like
mouthed the words, "Are you okay?"
And she nodded, and so then I justsat directly behind her and like

(12:53):
just let her know I was there.
But I, I was like, how do I...
I don't think I can get him off of her.
We just have to hope he her boundariesbecause the rest of us are around.
And he got off before we gotto Chicago, so the rest of the
way there was really pleasant.
And then w- when they saw,when they started to see...
That's one of the reasons you ridethe train to Chicago is so you can

(13:15):
see that skyline, and you, you're notdriving, so you can pay attention.
They both started crying.
And like the guy who was next to me, hegot like really excited, but the, the
smaller guy, the Latino dude, he wasreally overcome with emotion and was like
tr- kinda trying to hide it but couldn'thide that he was like openly bawling.
the little old woman behind himlike tapped him and handed him

(13:37):
a pink tissue from her purse.
It was so fucking cute.
Like, that's one of the m- manyreasons to appreciate public
transportation is moments like that.
There's plenty of other horriblethings that you wish you never
have to see again that also happenon public transportation, but-

Beck (2) (13:57):
I've been on a train before.
My brother-in-law worked for thetrain companies, uh, in northeastern
Ohio, and every Christmas they wouldhave, like, Santa rides where you'd
ride an hour one way and ride an hourthe other way, and Santa would come
through the cars, and you could get hotchocolate and that kind of thing, and
it was just fun being on the railroad.
So I've done that a couple of times.

Dash (14:16):
mean,

Beck (2) (14:17):
all of my train experience, but, uh, but I like it.
I've always driven to Chicago.

Dash (14:22):
Done that too, way less fun.

Beck (2) (14:24):
Yeah.

Dash (14:24):
I
freight trains.

Beck (2) (14:27):
You saw what trains?
You've cut out.

Dash (14:29):
f- freight trains.

Beck (2) (14:31):
Ah.

Dash (14:31):
I only had any experience with freight trains because what Dad drove,
and that's what was all around Jellicobecause they, it was the coal mining.
So there were no passenger trainsreally, so I didn't see those
until I moved up close to Toledo

Beck (2) (14:47):
Huh.
Instantly in my head, I got Michelle,Tamika, and Tanya wanna ride this train.
Come on, ride the train,

Dash (14:54):
around that

Beck (2) (14:55):
it with Sh-

Dash (14:57):
Oh, dude, the '90s are back.

Beck (2) (15:00):
Oh, yeah, in a big way.

Dash (15:01):
That picture I sent you of Emmett and his haircut, I sent it to Claire,
and she goes, "It's giving Devin Sala."
And I was like, "That wasexactly what I thought it was."
just bangs, and bowl, and volume.

Beck (2) (15:14):
It was really cute.

Dash (15:16):
Yes,

Beck (2) (15:16):
I'm so jealous that you've still got young nieces and nephews.

Dash (15:20):
be
the time I see them next.

Beck (2) (15:22):
Yeah.
My oldest niece is 34, and myyoungest nibling is 24, so all five
of them fall within those 10 years.

Dash (15:31):
I mean, obviously the, I don't have any other nieces and nephews, but
a lot of second cousins, like the d-the generation of cousins, uh, my first
cousins, and they're all in college.

Beck (2) (15:44):
It's technically your first cousin once removed.
wouldn't get a secondcousin from that line.
It would be your first cousinonce removed, then twice removed,
then third, three times removed,

Dash (15:54):
twice.

Beck (2) (15:55):
times removed.
But it stays your first cousin as longas it was originally your first cousin.
Like, your kid and theirkid would be second cousins,

Dash (16:02):
kid

Beck (2) (16:02):
it would still be your first cousin one- once removed.

Dash (16:05):
first cousin

Beck (2) (16:11):
uh, living with a guy.
He had no boxes on feet.
So there's different...
I don't really train box.
I've done it before just so I

Dash (16:18):
good strength

Beck (2) (16:19):
could feel the difference between it and cardio.
But

Dash (16:21):
I

Beck (2) (16:22):
I prefer small tires.
but then the thing is,when you get out of there,

Dash (16:28):
last night

Beck (2) (16:28):
my mind also

Dash (16:29):
did

Beck (2) (16:29):
isn't noticing the spot as much as it was before.
So it's like, "Am I hurting it?"

Dash (16:40):
prime."
I appreciate it, but no."
And he goes, "How old are you?"
It's like, "I am 44.
You can't kick me in the face."

Beck (2) (16:50):
I would crumble into dust if somebody kicked me in the face.
My n- my nephew does Jin powor s- is that a Chinese dish?
I don't know.
Jin po?
Jin po or something.
My nephew is really biginto, uh, martial arts.
M- maybe.

Dash (17:05):
Yeah.
It's similar to Muay Thai.

Beck (2) (17:08):
Yeah.
He's really into it, so...

Dash (17:11):
that's the Bruce Lee one.

Beck (2) (17:13):
Yeah, definitely.
Then that's where...
We're on the right track'cause he's a Bruce Lee stan.

Dash (17:17):
So he, I don't know if he invented it

Beck (2) (17:19):
I

Dash (17:19):
what, but it's, it's kind of a fusion martial art that puts
together, I don't know, some things.
I don't know many Anything withbelts, I don't know anything about it.
Like, I've trained a little bit ofkarate, but just so that I could do
what they call continuous which isessentially just Japanese kickboxing.

Beck (2) (17:38):
watched all of Cobra Kai.
Does that count?

Dash (17:40):
probably.
You know, it probably meansyou know more about it than me.

Beck (2) (17:45):
I liked Cobra Kai.
Shanna hated it 'cause it was so macho,but for whatever reason, I liked it.
I, I don't know if it was nostalgia orwhat but I, I was like, it's cheesy,
absolutely, but I still like it.
I'm allowed to like cheesy things.

Dash (17:57):
There's six of that show?
Damn.
Oh, Ralph Macchio cameback for it, awesome.

Beck (2) (18:05):
And Johnny.
They're the two main characters.

Dash (18:07):
I probably would like this.
I, I, I remember it happening,and I don't, but I don't
remember why I didn't watch it

Beck (2) (18:15):
There's lots of kick-ass fighting in it.

Dash (18:18):
It started in 2018.
So I wasn't, I hadn't startedtraining martial arts yet.
I started in 2019,

Beck (2) (18:24):
Gotcha

Dash (18:25):
like, in, in earnest, you know?
Like, I did karate as a kidI think a lotta kids just do.
there's, like, the sportyextracurricular your parents will
put you in if they possibly can.
I, I could not explain to you how karatebecame mine, because why in Jellico?
How did there be, how did therebecome a karate thing in Jellico?

(18:47):
But happened to be one of mom'sex-boyfriends a black belt in karate
and opened a dojo down there inJellico, he let us come for free.

Beck (2) (18:58):
Oh, wow.

Dash (18:59):
Yeah.
So we went for quite a while.
I, I don't remember.
I certainly didn't become a blackbelt, but I, I was, like, a, I think
it was green belt was as high as I got.
And it, like, I don't really remember.
Like, your body remembers a little.
Any time your body learnssomething, it remembers, but I
don't remember the names of things.
I don't remember what, you know,any of the katas, 'cause that's a
big deal in those kinds of more,like, symbolic martial arts.

(19:24):
Like, nobody's usingkarate for self-defense.
Someone who's trained in karate might havean advantage in defending off a certain
attacker or whatever, but if, if what youwant is self-defense, do not do karate.
It's the longest walk around to,to where you're trying to get.
If what you want is self-defense,take a self-defense class.

Beck (2) (19:44):
Yeah.
My activities were, uh,softball and bowling.

Dash (19:47):
were

Beck (2) (19:49):
It's a lot of balls for a lesbian.

Dash (19:51):
I played basketball for all of elementary and middle school,
and then I quit in high school.
And I, I kept doing trackand field until I graduated.

(20:28):
It's...
was just like, "I can't do this.
No, this is too weird."

Beck (2) (20:32):
I...
My brother took karate in Portsmouth, butI had no interest in anything like that.
If it wasn't softball orbowling, I was reading.
That was pretty much me.

Dash (20:41):
I wanna start, like, walking and running again.
I wanna get back into running,and I get so bored running.
So podcasts help,

Beck (2) (20:48):
I'm really into audiobooks right now.
I recommend that.

Dash (20:51):
you're...
I know that you're, like, intermittentlyon TikTok, and stuff, but...
So this is how I see a lot of thepop culture, the things that are
trending in places I don't hang out.
But the, the Erica Kirk video of herin, like, this Janet Jackson Rhythm
Nation getup, have you seen it?

Beck (2) (21:07):
Mm-mm.

Dash (21:07):
She's wearing a black baseball cap pulled down really low over her face.
It

Beck (2) (21:11):
Oh, is it w-

Dash (21:11):
it in

Beck (2) (21:12):
is when she's staring, uh, staring at the camera?
Is that what you're talking about?

Dash (21:15):
Yeah,

Beck (2) (21:16):
Yeah,
I did see that.
I did see that this morning.

Dash (21:19):
what kind of crazy pants?
That is such an interesting person to me.
Something

Beck (2) (21:24):
we s- are we sure that's not AI?

Dash (21:26):
Yeah, we're sure, because it was like, an actual show.
It was an actual podcast.

Beck (2) (21:32):
Gotcha.

Dash (21:34):
like, multiple versions and multiple angles and stuff like that.
But I don't know, like, what's...
I, I don't know what's going on withher, but there's something really
odd about, like, how she does affect,

Beck (2) (21:46):
Mm-hmm.

Dash (21:46):
who's she looking at?
she breathing like that?
I saw somebody stitched it andthey were just, like, waving
an asthma inhaler at her.
They were like, "You need this, girl."

Beck (2) (21:55):
I think it's, it's crazy that she's screaming reverse racism, 'cause
we all know that's not a fucking thing.
But

Dash (22:01):
White face.

Beck (2) (22:02):
yeah.

Dash (22:03):
in white face.

Beck (2) (22:04):
Yeah.
the stupid, it hurts

Dash (22:07):
to...
She's being super dramatic about, shegoes like, "Every day I wake up to a new
headline about me Try being trans or aperson of color in America, you know?
Like, I'm on the news everywhere I go.
Like, I'll be in the fucking,like, grocery store or the barber
shop, and they're pl- and the news,the radio or whatever is talking

(22:28):
about me, and I have to sit thereand pretend it's not happening.
These people are such pussies.
Just such weenies.
It's kind of embarrassing.
It's like y- making, you andyour people are making my life
harder, and this is what you are?
Like, this is all you aremade of, and you're somehow

(22:49):
actually making my life harder.
Like, what, how, what kind of fucking...
How is that even possible, you know?

Beck (2) (22:55):
What I don't understand is how people don't see what a
grift it is, like all of that shit.
They just buy into itwholeheartedly, you know, that

Dash (23:04):
think,

Beck (2) (23:04):
they're all people of God and God-fearing, and,

Dash (23:07):
that God's weary.

Beck (2) (23:08):
you know, there's a, there's an old saying that s- that standing in
a garage doesn't make you a Cadillac

Dash (23:13):
doesn't

Beck (2) (23:14):
any more than standing at church makes you a Christian, you know?

Dash (23:17):
a

Beck (2) (23:17):
I've got a friend, I won't say his name, but we went
to high school together, and,

Dash (23:21):
school together.

Beck (2) (23:22):
he was always a nice guy.
He was never real smart,

Dash (23:25):
guy.
He's never the worst,

Beck (2) (23:26):
guy.
He didn't play footballor sports or anything.

Dash (23:29):
bully and

Beck (2) (23:29):
he's religious.
He has a wife and a couple of kids, andwe have clashed several times on Facebook.

Dash (23:34):
times on

Beck (2) (23:35):
but he's constantly saying things like, "Be the hands and feet
of Jesus," and trying to, to be kind.
And I think he is verysincere in his beliefs.
I genuinely do.

Dash (23:46):
I genuinely do.

Beck (2) (23:48):
he was one of the people that watched the Turning Point USA
half t- halftime show and said it wasgreat and said that maybe he would
be singing that song that Kid Rock,

Dash (23:57):
And he's thinking about it, but

Beck (2) (23:58):
out, you know, when we talked about that.
And he's just so gullible that Idon't understand how somebody who
has average intelligence doesn'tsee what a grift all of it is.

Dash (24:10):
really

Beck (2) (24:10):
so obvious to me, I don't see how they don't see it.

Dash (24:18):
The, I th- that the fear of being left out and the fear of
being wrong about it is so intense.
it, I've been in situations beforewhere I have just sort of casually
mentioned that I don't follow a religion.
I don't, you know, think about adeity, much less believe in one.
Like, it never crosses my mind thata, a, a deity could be involved

(24:42):
in, in any given situation I'm in.
And people have, like, backed awayor crossed themselves or just looked
really shocked a- in s- in a way thatit, like, made it clear to me that
The thought of being alone was scary.
Being, being without some sortof deity that was s- invested

(25:03):
in, in them was scary to them.
And some- and, you know, I've beenasked, like, "What if you're wrong?"
Which, why is that my problem?
Why...
It, it doesn't matter if I'm wrongabout whether there's a God or not.
If there's a God, He made me wrong.
That's not my fault.
I don't see anythingto be scared of there.

Beck (2) (25:23):
Right.

Dash (25:24):
Whatever it is that makes people, makes belief work or faith
or whatever, I don't, I guess Idon't have it or, and I can't see it.
I don't know

Beck (2) (25:34):
Me either.

Dash (25:34):
look like.

Beck (2) (25:35):
Like, I would love it if I could give my, myself to a larger,
you know, deity that, and trust insomething that the universe was gonna
do things for me and that kinda thing.
I wish I could, I couldbuy into it, but never.
I mean, I-- We've talked about how whenI was four years old, I was disagreeing
with the Pentecostal church doctrineabout how animals have souls, you know?

(25:58):
So my whole life I have beenlike, "Fuck the, fuck the k-
fuck the church," basically.

Dash (26:04):
but never Maybe, I mean, maybe that's part of it.
Maybe, maybe it deferring to adeity on moral frees you up.
You don't have to think about whethersomething's right or wrong or not,
because something else somewherehas said something extremely
confusing and contradictory about it.
So you just pick whichever one feelsright to you, whichever one slots
you into a context, and go with it.

(26:27):
But I j- I just I can't be afraidthat I might be wrong about it.
I, I can't care.

Beck (2) (26:33):
believe they call that Pascal's Wager

Dash (26:35):
I've never heard that.
Okay.
Believing in God is the most rationalchoice because the potential gain is
infinite while the loss is finite.
If the believer gain-- If, if Godexists, the believer gains everything.
If not, they lose little.
That seems backwards to me.

Beck (2) (26:55):
Right.

Dash (26:57):
Like, if God exists but can't manage to make me believe in him,
he's obviously not very influential.

Beck (2) (27:06):
Right, very powerful.
I am jealous of the fellowshipthat church brings, right?
The, the, the Sunday dinners, andthe, the church plays, and the
church rummage sales, and the ladiesBible study group or whatever.

Dash (27:20):
living with.

Beck (2) (27:21):
just, you know, those are religion-based community, uh, activities.
And I miss- I, I would loveto have a community like that,
that you get from church.
But I just can't agree to whatthey want you to agree to in
order to get that fellowship.
Like, I've even thought about,

Dash (27:39):
Like, I've even thought

Beck (2) (27:40):
the Universalist Unitarian Church, right?
How they are non-denominational and,

Dash (27:45):
something...

Beck (2) (27:46):
talk about all the religion.
It's kind of like theanti-religion or whatever.
And I just, I can't,

Dash (27:50):
and I

Beck (2) (27:50):
I can't do it.

Dash (27:52):
Well, and those, the seven pillars or tenets or whatever it is
they have, they're, they're very fucking

Beck (2) (27:58):
Yeah

Dash (27:59):
And, uh, I, and I'm jealous of the way that their access to that
community is literally sacrosanct.
It is protected above allthings in the U- in the US.
a Christian is never goingto be without community.
They're never going to be without asafe place to go barring certain, like,

(28:23):
uh, extreme situations like cults and,you know, like abuse and things like
that where people are, become trapped.
You know, your average Christian inthe US spoiled for choice when it
comes to ways to spend their timearound like-minded people who love them
unconditionally were anybody to suggestthat that's a privilege instead of a

(28:47):
right You would be, you know, criticized.
But the rest of us can't have that,Like, uh, every time somebody wants
to have a, a queer event or a, a Blackevent or something like that, or a
space for those people or people withthat shared identity to hang out, then
it becomes, they're pushing it on us.

(29:09):
This is your whole identity.
You're shoving this down my throat,"blah, blah, blah, snowflake, you need
your own safe space version of things.
It's like you occupy the mostsafe space of safe spaces.

Beck (2) (29:21):
Yeah, these people that, that accuse us of having safe spaces
didn't wanna share water fountainswith Black people in the '50s and '60s.
You know what?
Like, what, what kind ofsnowflake bullshit is that?
Like, they are the biggestsnowflakes that there are.
Ugh, it makes me angry.

Dash (29:36):
I can't to your, you know, Sunday cookout unless I join your club
and make that my whole personality.
And, also, is the book clubwhere nobody's reading the book?

Beck (2) (29:50):
Yeah.
For sure.

Dash (29:51):
Part of the reason why everybody but those, that identity is being denied
that right now in America is becauseif we can't have community with each
other, we also can't have any resilience.
When we're isolated and alone,we don't have We're defenseless.
You know, we don't have any can'tstand up to what they're already

(30:15):
p- doing to us and planning toget much more overt about doing.
Like, the an- the anti-transstuff is just crazy.

Beck (2) (30:21):
Yeah.

Dash (30:22):
The redistricting, the Supreme Court just legalized gerrymandering.

Beck (2) (30:27):
Yeah.
I watched a couple of videos about thatlast night about the racist origins of
all of that bullshit and the SupremeCourt decisions and how they were gutting
the civil rights, the voting act, and

Dash (30:37):
Voting

Beck (2) (30:38):
I just...
I can't believe they're settingus back 60 years, you know?
And that's exactly what's gonna happenif they, if they do all of that.
And they say that they, theydon't want it based on race,

Dash (30:48):
don't want it

Beck (2) (30:48):
like in Louisiana, seven of the eight districts
are, are, are white majority, yet

Dash (30:54):
majority,

Beck (2) (30:55):
33% of the state is Black.

Dash (30:57):
state is

Beck (2) (30:57):
does that work?
You know what I mean?
Like, the...
It should be fair.
It should be d-

Dash (31:01):
work?
Yeah.

Beck (2) (31:01):
It, it should just be fair.
Everybody's vote should count,

Dash (31:04):
Everybody's

Beck (2) (31:05):
it's never gonna be that way as long as people get power from,

Dash (31:08):
people in

Beck (2) (31:08):
that they don't deserve from, from rigging it.
I mean, Trump came outand said it himself.
He said,

Dash (31:13):
came

Beck (2) (31:14):
gonna fix it so good that you won't have to vote next time,"

Dash (31:16):
that you

Beck (2) (31:17):
you know?
And they're trying todeliver on that promise.

Dash (31:19):
trying to already suspended primaries in um, Louisiana.

Beck (2) (31:23):
Wow.

Dash (31:26):
Only reason the Electoral College exists is because of
the Three-Fifths Compromise.
It was created to facilitateracial disenfranchisement.
We really haven't changed much.

Beck (2) (31:37):
Mm-hmm.
The technology in the wrapper haschanged, but the underlying values
in the, the wires on the inside areexactly as rotten as they have ever been
Rue says hi.

Dash (31:52):
Hi, Rue.

Beck (2) (31:54):
She's a good girl.
She just lets me holdher as long as I want to.

Dash (31:57):
me How's the apartment search going?

Beck (2) (31:59):
That's Shanna's area.
I couldn't tell you.
I'm...
So I'm a bad shopper,

Dash (32:05):
so a

Beck (2) (32:06):
genuinely.
Like, you tell me to order something, I'mgonna order the wrong thing every time.

Dash (32:10):
I'll go

Beck (2) (32:10):
I will double-check it, I will triple-check it, I will make sure
it's right, and somehow it's wrong.
Like, I'm...
I've done this so many timesthat I'm kind of infamous for it.

Dash (32:18):
that I've kinda

Beck (2) (32:21):
and that in- involves apartment hunting.
She's just so much better at it than I am,

Dash (32:25):
so much better it is overwhelming.
Shopping for

Beck (2) (32:27):
Yeah.

Dash (32:28):
because there's a million options

Beck (2) (32:30):
Yeah.
Like, she had me order my,

Dash (32:32):
Like she had me order

Beck (2) (32:33):
my perfume off of Amazon and,

Dash (32:36):
and, uh, some for

Beck (2) (32:36):
some Kool-Aid for her, and I ordered the perfume from a third-party
seller, And so it's not gonna behere until, like, two weeks from now.

Dash (32:44):
here

Beck (2) (32:44):
And then I ordered the Kool-Aid from a third-party seller somehow,

Dash (32:47):
from

Beck (2) (32:47):
and it's not gonna be here till the end of June,

Dash (32:49):
it's

Beck (2) (32:49):
and it's too late to cancel them now, so.

Dash (32:52):
end

Beck (2) (32:52):
Or I'll get it stuck in my head that we need shampoo, and I'll buy
five bottles of shampoo, like, every timeI go to the store five times in a row.
I've done that bef- I have somany boxes of mac and cheese in
my cabinet right now, it's stupid.

Dash (33:03):
is...
I mean, you know, maybe oneday you'll, you'll hit gold.

Beck (2) (33:09):
One thing I do shop for on Amazon, and this is so silly
it's deals on toilet paper andthen I buy toilet paper in bulk.
' Cause if you pay attention,

Dash (33:17):
Pay

Beck (2) (33:18):
if ... I got a $36 pack of toilet paper for $24 the other day,
cause of coupons and a 20% off if yousubscribe and save and do all ... 'Cause
you can cancel the subscriptions, right?
So I just sign up for it and thengo in and cancel it afterwards.
And you get your 20% off.
Was, like, eight four-packsor something like that.
For $24?
Hell yeah.

Dash (33:36):
for

Beck (2) (33:37):
Yes, I will.
Thank you

Dash (33:38):
Maybe it's a good time to hear from this week's sponsor.
Oh, I don't have my glasses on.
This should be fun.
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Beck (2) (36:28):
That's one thing that I've not worn since I was a child.
Yeah, I, I refuse to wear 'em.
I will, I will not show off my feet.
I'm like the oddball in my family.
I won't show off my feet, Iwon't show off my boobs, I won't
show off, like, my cleavage.
Like, like, all of it.
I'm like, "Hell no, I'm...
My...
I'm covered for your safety."

Dash (36:45):
What's wrong with your

Beck (2) (36:47):
What's wrong with you?
I just don't like 'em.
They're

Dash (36:50):
Oh.

Beck (2) (36:51):
feet, and they're very manly.

Dash (36:53):
Yeah.
I, I have some strong feet.

Beck (2) (36:56):
And where I'm diabetic and I get m- so my toenails grow like my
mom's, and they grow like staples.
They, like, go down and kindacurve back in and come out my toe.
So I get ingrown toenails,like all the way in.
They have to dig 'em out.
So to avoid that, I let my toenail, my bigtoenail grow pretty long, and it's just...
I just would not show that to anyone.
That is my own personal shame.

Dash (37:19):
I'm real lazy about trimming my toenails too.
Like, they've gotta be, like, poking intoeach other, 'cause I have some crooked

Beck (2) (37:24):
I

Dash (37:25):
so I know that it's time to cut my nails by my pinky toe cutting
into the other toe next to It

Beck (2) (37:30):
make Shanna do it for me.
I'm terrible with tw- with clippers.
When,

Dash (37:33):
reach.

Beck (2) (37:34):
when you, when you've been with somebody for 22 years,
there is nothing off the table.
Like, you know?
in it for the long haul at that point.
She's seen grosserthings than my toenails.
She, she cleans dirty, like, she...
At work today she, uh, somebodyshit in the tub, and so she
had to clean the tub out.
I could not do that job.
So my toenails arenothing compared to that.

Dash (37:55):
And, you know, like this is, you know, absolutely nothing against
Shana, because I would never, I loveher, but, like, based on how I knew her
before she started this work, this isnot what I have, would have picked for

Beck (2) (38:05):
She's a very good caretaker.
Uh, like she's a very good, like...

Dash (38:09):
she

Beck (2) (38:10):
sick, I feel fantastic because she always makes me feel better, so.

Dash (38:14):
I, and I could believe that, but I just saw this ball
of anxiety, and, I was just...
But also, now that I'm sayingit, that kinda makes sense

Beck (2) (38:23):
Yeah.
She's still a ball of anxiety.
Don't, don't let's get that twisted

Dash (38:28):
It's just an asset now.

Beck (2) (38:29):
Yeah.
Right now she's working through a stretchof six days where she has to work in a
row, and she's not doing well with it.
And then she agreed to stay late today.
She should've been home already,but she doesn't get off till
4:00 today, and I'm over it.

Dash (38:41):
get

Beck (2) (38:41):
It's extra money, but I'm like, "I'm bored.
What am I supposed to do?
Just sit here and work all the time?"

Dash (38:46):
That's kind of it, like the, the balance of extra money
versus your own wellbeing.
I was talking to Sabrina last night aboutlike, you know, going back to teaching
full-time instead of doing administrationand then teaching on the side.
And I remember, you

Beck (2) (39:04):
I

Dash (39:05):
boring.
Teaching is a little boring.
Uh, it's a little monotonous, right?
It's

Beck (2) (39:10):
was
gonna

Dash (39:42):
But I also, I don't know if it's an, it's, I don't know if it's
an ego, but like the thing that Iliked about being an administrator
is actually being able to, to make animpact, like on the university itself.
Like that's addictive.
It's like you, you, I can seehow people get addicted to power.

Beck (2) (40:00):
Yeah.

Dash (40:00):
listen to me."

Beck (2) (40:01):
Well, you get some of that as a professor too.
Like that email that I got a coupleof weeks ago where the student said
that he appreciated me being queerout loud, and he be- he, he realized
that he was queer on his own.

Dash (40:13):
that

Beck (2) (40:13):
Like, you make an impact on people.

Dash (40:15):
make a difference.

Beck (2) (40:18):
for my ethnic studies class, and the last question I ask them

Dash (40:21):
like

Beck (2) (40:21):
is, "What are you gonna take away from this class?
What will you carry with you?
How will you use it?"
Right?

Dash (40:26):
hear, what

Beck (2) (40:26):
And I had three or four people say that they're gonna take my, my line

Dash (40:30):
they're

Beck (2) (40:30):
that if Black people could fix racism, it would've been fixed already.

Dash (40:33):
they're

Beck (2) (40:33):
they're gonna take that with them, and I'm like, "All right.
I did something.
I'm quoted.
Woo-hoo."

Dash (40:38):
as faculty, you get to impact the students.
And administrators don'tget to do that as much.
Like, I was kind of lucky in the-- thatmy role did give me a little bit of that.
And it's a longer-- it's a slower burn.
You kinda have to wait awhile for that to pay off.
Whereas an administrator,you're changing the university
pretty much on the daily, and

(40:58):
you get that dopamine hit faster.
But it's also-- That's one of thereasons why it's so fucking stressful.
Did you bring a noun ofAppalachian interest?

Beck (2) (41:06):
I did.
It's a big one today.

Dash (41:08):
A big

Beck (2) (41:09):
right, y'all.
Today's noun of Appalachian interest isthe Appalachian Mountains themselves.
It's about time we talked aboutthe star of this show properly.
Now, when people hear mountains,they picture something dramatic,
like picturesque snow caps, ormaybe they yearn for yodeling or
goats doing parkour on cliffs.

Dash (41:27):
with

Beck (2) (41:28):
all awesome things, but that is really not these mountains.
The Appalachians are older.
These mountains have been hereso long that human history
feels tiny by comparison.
These mountains used to be tall in away that would've made the Rockies feel
insecure, and then time said, "Let'ssand that down a bit," and here we are.

Dash (41:45):
down a

Beck (2) (41:45):
What you get instead is rolling ridges that just keep going.
These mountains don't sit offin the distance looking pretty.
They surround you.

Dash (41:52):
gritty.

Beck (2) (41:52):
shape how towns got built.
how roads twist, how people talk.
Even directions change.
Nobody says north or south around here.

Dash (42:00):
north

Beck (2) (42:00):
that's fancy city talk.
In these mountains, your directions are upthe holler, down past the creek, or turn
where that old gas station used to be.

Dash (42:08):
that old

Beck (2) (42:08):
I once gave a friend three hours away directions to my house
and didn't use a single road name.
True story.
the mountains also have this habit ofkeeping stories, not in a spooky way.
It's more like they hold onto things likefamily histories, old routes, places where
something happened once and now everybodyknows not to go there after dark.

Dash (42:25):
not

Beck (2) (42:25):
You don't need a map.
What you really need is someone'smamaw telling you all the stories.
And here's the thing that I like the most.
These mountains don't rush.
They've been here longer thanjust about anything you can name,
and they move at their own pace.

Dash (42:37):
and

Beck (2) (42:37):
You can feel it when you're there.
The air slows you down.
The quiet feels different.

Dash (42:41):
You

Beck (2) (42:41):
Even time feels like it took a seat for a minute.
So yeah, the Appalachian Mountains aren'tout here trying to impress anybody.
They don't need to.
They just sit there like, "We'vebeen doing this a long time.
Y'all can catch up when you're ready."

Dash (42:52):
time.
Y'all

Beck (2) (42:53):
like us Queernecks, a lot of folks don't get
to stay in those mountains.

Dash (42:56):
don't

Beck (2) (42:56):
They leave for work or school or for love or for something that's
feels like it's waiting somewhere else.

Dash (43:01):
like it

Beck (2) (43:01):
You pack up, you go build a life and somewhere new.
That's, that part's real.
But the mountains don'treally let you go all the way.

Dash (43:08):
go

Beck (2) (43:08):
They stick with you in ways that you don't expect.

Dash (43:10):
you in

Beck (2) (43:10):
It might be the way that you measure distance in time instead of miles,

Dash (43:14):
time

Beck (2) (43:14):
how loud quiet feels when everything finally settles down at night.

Dash (43:17):
finally

Beck (2) (43:18):
It might be the way certain words feel more like
home than others, even if nobodyaround you says them anymore.

Dash (43:23):
around you

Beck (2) (43:23):
After a while, you realize it's not just the place you came from,
it's part of how you move through theworld, part of how you think, how you
remember, how you make sense of things.
It makes a mark on your soul.

Dash (43:33):
makes

Beck (2) (43:33):
And whether you ever move back home or not, you're still tied to it.
Your story doesn't leavejust because you did.
It stays folded into those hills,

Dash (43:41):
it.

Beck (2) (43:41):
right alongside with everybody else's, like it always had a spot waiting.

Dash (43:45):
like it

Beck (2) (43:45):
That's this week's town of Appalachian interest,
the Appalachian Mountains.

Dash (43:49):
Jen from the Yeah, they're, they're older than the continents.
Like

Beck (2) (43:52):
Yeah.

Dash (43:52):
they go back to Pangea.

Beck (2) (43:55):
Mm-hmm.

Dash (43:55):
That's why there's no fossils of,
Have you ever been toanywhere in the Rockies?

Beck (2) (44:06):
When I was young enough that I didn't remember it.
We've been to Pikes Peak whenI was, like, three years old.
We went on a whole tour of theWest, and I don't remember any of
it, except riding in the backseaton the hump in the floorboard.
That was my spot 'causeI was the littlest.
Yeah.
We've

Dash (44:26):
or much about what it actually looked like outside.
I have visited Salt

Beck (2) (44:31):
to the Badlands.
I remember there being a reallyneat development there from what,

Dash (44:34):
but

Beck (2) (44:34):
the story that we were told.
I contributed something, I think.
I guess that doesn't reallycount as a family tradition.
It has

Dash (44:38):
areas

Beck (2) (44:39):
like, buried family legend.
I guess it's

Dash (44:43):
kind of

Beck (2) (44:44):
other things that are commonly

Dash (44:45):
out

Beck (2) (44:45):
out there

Dash (44:45):
than, what we're g-

Beck (2) (44:47):
as sort of oral histories or
We look into,

Dash (44:50):
Big Chain Rock

Beck (2) (44:51):
chain rocks- Mm-mm.

Dash (44:52):
Eastern Kentucky?

Beck (2) (44:53):
No.
Really, I

Dash (44:54):
I mean,

Beck (2) (44:55):
mean, it's literally that.
There's these huge

Dash (44:57):
rock

Beck (2) (44:57):
rocks on the side of a mountain

Dash (44:59):
that,

Beck (2) (44:59):
that,

Dash (45:00):
they were afraid was gonna

Beck (2) (45:02):
would then fall off.

Dash (45:03):
And

Beck (2) (45:03):
And so they, they did

Dash (45:06):
they,

Beck (2) (45:06):
this ritual where they colored threads that were
shown on the side of the mountain.

Dash (45:15):
to

Beck (2) (45:15):
how many-

Dash (45:16):
case it fell.
It would stop it from rolling down andsquashing like the town below it there.
The, and the...
You can hike to it andsee it, and it is looking.
I have some of my...
I'll get my photos from my phone,'cause that used- that was part of my
territory when I was, uh, a recruiter.

Beck (2) (45:33):
That's wild

Dash (45:35):
Yeah.
Uh, this is kind of the view um,from like when you're standing out
where the wreck is, or the wrecker.
It doesn't really do it justice,but like it's pretty cool.
And so I remember visitingthat when we were little.
Here's the chain itself.
Oh, this is Instagram.
Interesting.

Beck (2) (45:52):
It's a pretty view.

Dash (45:53):
Yeah, it's a beautiful spot.
And the whole hike is, is gorgeous.
But like w- just the idea that thischain is gonna stop this boulder,

Beck (2) (46:03):
Yeah.
It's pretty big.
Yeah, it's pretty big.
That's

Dash (46:08):
It's very Kentucky.

Beck (2) (46:10):
The only cool thing we have is the serpent mound, which is pretty cool.

Dash (46:14):
Yeah, Serpent Mountain.
That's cool.

Beck (2) (46:16):
Have you ever been there?

Dash (46:17):
No.

Beck (2) (46:17):
Next time you go see Sabrina, you guys should take a little
drive and go out and check it out.
It's worth seeing in person.
They have a little structurewhere you can walk up the stairs.
It's like three flights ofstairs to the top, and then you
can see over the entire thing.
It's totally worth going up.

Dash (46:32):
you can Cool.

Beck (2) (46:34):
Thing in Chillicothe called uh, Tecumseh.
They do an outdoor drama, and theyhave horses and guns and all that
kind of stuff, and it's really cool.
But they do it all summer,uh, there in Chillicothe.

Dash (46:45):
Is it named after,

Beck (2) (46:47):
A famous,

Dash (46:47):
it named after Sh- Sherman or the native

Beck (2) (46:51):
Sherman was named after the Native chief,

Dash (46:53):
Native.

Beck (2) (46:54):
so the Native chief is, was from the Chillicothe area.

Dash (46:57):
But, so is it named after him or

Beck (2) (46:59):
Yeah.
No, the, the Indian chief.

Dash (47:01):
definitely him.
Cool.
nation.

Beck (2) (47:05):
Yeah, I went probably 25 ... It was my ex-girlfriend if it's
been that long, and I've been withShanna for 22 years, so But I loved it.
We had front row seats, andit was the coolest thing.
So if you get a chance, Irecommend going to see that.
And you have to also eat at theoriginal Krispy Kreme donut.
There's all kinds of funstuff to do in Chillicothe.

Dash (47:23):
and I want a doughnut.

Beck (2) (47:29):
You know, the, the, the original Krispy Kreme the, that I grew up with
beats the KK Krispy Kreme all to hell.
Though the policy of giving you afree glazed donut when their hot
and ready light is on, five stars.
Wouldn't change a thing.
No notes on that.
That's amazing.

Dash (47:45):
places.
Yeah.
Genius.

Beck (2) (47:48):
You know some fat kid came up with that.
What's your favorite kind of donut?
If you have your choice, what'syour favorite kind of donut?

Dash (47:53):
If you're happy with your favorite ... it's Krispy Kreme.
Like, nothing compares to

Beck (2) (47:57):
I've had not

Dash (47:59):
nice

Beck (2) (48:00):
good donuts in my day.
There's not a lot There's,

Dash (48:03):
know, there's, uh, whatever

Beck (2) (48:04):
whenever they do

Dash (48:05):
sure that there's

Beck (2) (48:06):
donuts,

Dash (48:08):
are

Beck (2) (48:09):
do donuts.
And like, there

Dash (48:13):
doughnut,

Beck (2) (48:13):
are Dunkin' Donuts or something else, like there's, like a box of cream
donuts, right, almost anybody can do that.
But when I want a glazed donut,

Dash (48:17):
not eating

Beck (2) (48:18):
that's not the same thing as- Next time you go to Chillicothe,
try the Krispy Kreme there.
It's CC Krispy Kreme.

Dash (48:24):
see, Krispy Kreme.
Their,

Beck (2) (48:24):
Their g- their, their glazed donuts beat the, the KK ones

Dash (48:28):
has a doughnut

Beck (2) (48:28):
like they're dog shit.
Like, it's amazing.

Dash (48:32):
the

Beck (2) (48:33):
Yeah, it has a donut called the Mountain Top.
I, when I was a kid, I got so obsessedwith them that I would dream about
them, 'cause I was a fat kid, right?
It's a chocolate donut with chocolateicing with a big dollop of white icing
on top of it, and it is delicious.
Five stars.

Dash (48:49):
Now I

Beck (2) (48:49):
Now

Dash (48:50):
to go find some sort of sweet treat.

Beck (2) (48:52):
I want to go find some Krispy Kreme.
Sweet treat.
Are you going to have a sweet treat?
I finished off my sweet treat, whichwas my chocolate-covered pretzels.
I finished those off last night, so.
Though I do have some oldschool, like when you're in
kindergartner, iced oatmeal cookies.
I was craving those the other day,so I've got a pack of those too.

Dash (49:09):
Yeah.
Every now and then I will

Beck (2) (49:13):
Yeah.
Shana got the kaleidoscopes orwhatever they're ... Kaleidos
or whatever they're called,

Dash (49:18):
like, you know,

Beck (2) (49:18):
the generic ones.
They're pretty good too.

Dash (49:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's a pretty simple formula.

Beck (2) (49:23):
Did you know they're vegan?

Dash (49:24):
Yeah, accidentally

Beck (2) (49:26):
were vegan.

Dash (49:27):
So are the Doritos sweet chili chips.

Beck (2) (49:32):
Oh.
Good to know.

Dash (49:33):
I don't know, don't know about any of the other ones.
Probably not ranch, but Well,maybe we ought to get off of here.
Listeners, thanks for hangingout with us for another week.
Tell us what famous thingis made in your hometown.
In

Beck (2) (49:47):
That's interesting.

Dash (49:49):
That's

Beck (2) (49:49):
In Cincinnati, they make a lot of schnapps.
There's a, there's a,

Dash (49:53):
of And Guetta.
They're

Beck (2) (49:53):
a, the, the, the famous one that makes schnapps, the d-

Dash (49:58):
Of

Beck (2) (49:58):
with D-E.
It's a very famous brand of, like,syrups and schnapps and things like that.
And I can't think of the name of it.
But they have a factory in,

Dash (50:07):
have

Beck (2) (50:08):
and every time you drive by it,

Dash (50:09):
Sometimes

Beck (2) (50:10):
there, uh, it smells like sugar smacks because they're
doing the, the sugar boil down.
Oh, God, it smells so good.
But sometimes you'll drive byand it smells like cherries,

Dash (50:18):
I'd

Beck (2) (50:19):
or it'll be pineapple day or whatever, and that's fantastic.
y- yeah, I think that is it.

Dash (50:25):
I don't know how to say

Beck (2) (50:27):
Y- yeah,

Dash (50:27):
but

Beck (2) (50:28):
I think that's exactly right.

Dash (50:29):
I think that's

Beck (2) (50:30):
the best factory I ever lived near was the Heiner's Bread
factory, which that was amazing,the smell of Heiner's bread.

Dash (50:37):
They

Beck (2) (50:38):
Did they have Heiner's bread where you grew up?
Is that an Appalachian thingor just a, a regional thing?

Dash (50:42):
favorite I, I don't remember it.
We just, ate boring white bread

Beck (2) (50:46):
Well, that's what Heiner's was, but it's the softest, most
delicious white bread you'll ever have.
Sara Lee bought 'em out.

Dash (50:51):
Oh, then probably.
Port Chilakothe smells like the worst

Beck (2) (50:55):
Hey,

Dash (50:56):
smelled, which

Beck (2) (50:57):
smells like money.

Dash (50:58):
paper
Oh,
down.

Beck (2) (51:04):
They've said that a couple of times over...
Yeah, it used to be f- like everytime you'd go to Columbus, you'd
have, you'd know you were inChillicothe 'cause you'd hit the smell.

Dash (51:11):
Is, is singular.
Nothing else smells like that.

Beck (2) (51:13):
Yep.

Dash (51:14):
Well, be good everybody, or be good at it.

Beck (2) (51:18):
Amen.

Dash (51:20):
and, uh, our next episode is our 50th.

Beck (2) (51:24):
Ooh.

Dash (51:25):
The, we don't, that doesn't necessarily mean anything
except for we somehow managedto put together 50 of these.
So

Beck (2) (51:32):
Somebody could listen to us for two solid days, and that's amazing.

Dash (51:35):
Oh my God, that's true.
Let us know if you did that

Beck (2) (51:38):
That's

Dash (51:40):
now and then I'll, some- uh, every now and then I'll look on, like, you
know, our, our analytics or whatever,and it's like, "What is going on here?
Okay.
Somebody in New Jersey is vibing with us."

Beck (2) (51:50):
so cool.

Dash (51:50):
yeah, I know.
And we are happy to have all of y'all,

Beck (2) (51:54):
If you have any comments, hit us up at [e-mail].
If you wanna leave any comments oranything, don't forget about that.

Dash (52:01):
Yep, and if you have something interesting you wanna tell us
a- about that we could reporton on the show, something cool
that's happening in your hometown.
Are you a performer?
I don't know.
We just wanna hear from you.
And yeah, we'll see y'all out there.
Say hi to your mom and them.

Beck (2) (52:17):
Bye.