Do Whatever We Feel Like

Hosts Beck and Dash open by discussing writing habits, sleep, and accountability tactics like body doubling. They share updates on pain, long drives, mail deliveries, and pets aging and not eating, then pivot to show-and-tell of 1970s lesbian commune zines from Kentucky (“country women”) with homesteading and self-defense content. Conversation touches on dead-celebrity rumors, TV time-travel shows, and a classroom women’s studies exercise about consent and coercion that reveals how some students deny scenarios as assault; they connect this to rape culture, language, and Freud’s retracted findings on hysteria and sexual violence, noting Title IX/mandated reporting. After a comedic sponsor ad, they swap rural food and gas-station stories, then present the “noun of Appalachian interest”: Loretta Lynn’s poor Kentucky upbringing, blunt songs on women’s lives and birth control, and lasting influence.

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00:00 Welcome

00:58 Writing Routines and Space

02:35 Sleep Habits and Accountability

05:31 Walks Weather and Errands

07:40 Mystery Package Game

08:11 Queer Zines Show and Tell

10:27 Celebrity Deaths and Politics

13:55 TV Time Travel and Quantum Leap

15:28 Zine Page Turns Dark

16:17 Teaching Consent and Coercion

21:38 Freud Hysteria and Rape Culture

26:59 Old Magazines and Lost Stash

29:11 Trucker Meth Ad

30:50 Yellow Jackets Memories

31:24 Briar Patch Gas Mart

32:06 Country Food Debates

35:40 Kimchi Quest

37:12 Pizza And Gas Prices

39:11 Car Values Talk

41:26 Pets Aging Reality

43:11 Bowling Green Reflections

44:30 Loretta Lynn Spotlight

48:24 Appalachian History Tangents

52:35 Movie Picks And Wrap

Episode Transcript

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Welcome to Queernecks, the podcast that (00:05):
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puts the Yee Hall in y'all means hall.
I'm your host, Beck,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: and I'm your host. (00:11):
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Dash.
Welcome to today's episode.
It was, my audio was kind of echoybecause of how empty this room is
and everything's a hard surface.
So I like did something, some weirdstuff and put quilts down random
places, like on the floor in here.
We'll see if that does anythingfor the, for the audio.

(00:31):
It sounds like you thoughtyou muted yourself,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh, did I not? (00:33):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (00:35):
No.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Can you still hear me? (00:36):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (00:37):
Yeah,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh, I've been using that as (00:38):
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mute button for a long time.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: it normally works, but for, right, (00:41):
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because I can hear the click, click,and then I can see you like cough or
whatever, but that time it did not mute

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh, good to know. (00:49):
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Sorry about that.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: we got the full experience. (00:52):
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Oh, happy Saturday.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yes, it is. (00:56):
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It is.
I slept in, so that was wonderful though.
My in therapy this week we decided thatI had to get up early on Friday and
Saturday, and I didn't do it either day.
So

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (01:07):
Okay.
What's the reason?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: because I need to be writing. (01:10):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (01:11):
Uh, and are you more likely to write in the

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (01:14):
Yes.
My brain goes to shit aftera certain point in the day.
I just know myself,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: No, I know what you mean. (01:19):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (01:20):
So I used to have to take my math classes
at like 8:00 AM because otherwise thenumbers were not getting into my brain.
Like if I'm awake at itwouldn't willingly take it.
So,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Where do you do your writing? (01:32):
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Is it at the same place we record?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yes, but I'm working on that. (01:35):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, that'll (01:37):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, we bought a desk to (01:38):
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go in the spare bedroom.
It's little, but it's, its surface.
And that's really all I need.
We have a chair.
So.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (01:46):
Yep.
That was something I was actuallyliving on campus in the dorms last
year I was writing and there wasa little study room down the hall.
that's the reason I wrote asmuch as I did over spring break
'cause the students were gone.
So I would just get up, makemy coffee or whatever, carry my
laptop down the hallway, and thensit in the study room for hours.

(02:08):
I would, of course, I was also out ofmy mind on prednisone, but I, I would've
been doing that anyway, just maybenot as, as like frenzied of a pace.
'Cause I continued doing it even afterthat, once the psychosis was gone.
So like a change of location willreally like, loosen things up for you.
I

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Well, Shannon is working generally 6:00 (02:26):
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AM to 2:00 PM and so she's gone thethe times that I'm here pretty much.
And then the other timesthat we're sleeping.
Sleeping is a big issue for me.
I've been going to bed at like nine30 and getting up at like nine 30,
so I don't need that much sleep,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (02:43):
There was an episode of Amy Poehler's podcast.
Good hang.
And I typically, you know, as I, youknow, am an independent podcaster, I
have had feelings, probably not very fairfeelings about the celebrity podcast boom.
And, but hers is an exceptionbecause she's so good at it.
She's such a good interviewer and hostto the people she brings on the show.

(03:07):
And I also just love her in general,but she had, there was an episode where
Dakota Johnson was on it and she wastalking about her obsession with sleeping.
And she sleeps 12, 14 hours a

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (03:21):
yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (03:21):
Like, I don't know how she ever goes to work.
I'm like, you should get that lookedat because, 'cause she's like, what
is she in her thirties and she's a,maybe, is she anemic or something?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I just, mine came from a long, long, (03:32):
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long stem of depression and grief.
And then I just got in the habit.
And once you get in the habit of it,it's real easy to stay in the happy habit
of it, especially when you don't have alot of responsibilities outside of work.
So literally all I do iswork and sleep and watch tv.
That's my whole life right now.

(03:53):
And I need more writing in there.
Less sleeping.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (03:57):
Yep.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Goodness gracious. (03:57):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well, I have to write also, so (03:59):
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we'll be accountability buddies.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: my therapist wants me to find (04:03):
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somebody to hold me accountablefor writing time, and I'm like.
Literally, I'm not app, I'mnot laying that on anybody.
You know what I mean?
She like, she's just, and she justassumes there's lots of people in
my life that would be happy to dosuch a thing, and I'm like, Nope.
That's just not how it works.
I'm not, no.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (04:19):
She might be assuming that, you know, lots
of other people that are also writing,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I, I guess, I don't know. (04:24):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: because that's normally what that means (04:26):
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when people say something like that.
They mean like working with otherpeople who also have projects to do.
I think it's called body doubling.
I think this is what Sabrina called it.
And it's really good for people with a DHDor just generally issues with like sitting
down to accomplish a task procrastination.
And so I did that with my friend who wasa co-host on another show I was doing.

(04:51):
We both had a bunch of writing to do andthat's kind of how I finished it after
the, you know, the big spurt of creativitywas over just actually every day there.
For several weeks we logged on.
We just like got on Google meet, muted.
We were both there.
Like we could see each otherif we, if we wanted to.

(05:13):
But we would mute ourselves and thenwrite for however long we felt like,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Well, that seems like a good idea. (05:18):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (05:19):
I don't know why it works, but it does.
You're just so much more likelyto actually sit there if you
know somebody's with you.
I went for a walk in my shorts earlier.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh, you're one of those dudes, huh? (05:34):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well, no, it's actually that warm here. (05:36):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (05:38):
Uh.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I mean, (05:43):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: You were in Ohio for too long, (05:44):
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man, yesterday not yesterday.
Thursday I have an 1130 class andit's still kind of chilly usually
'cause it's still kind of morning-ish.
Um, and I had a couple of dudes inmy class that came in straight up
like runner shorts and tank topsand it was like 51 degrees outside.
It was like, y'all are doingway too much right now.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I, I don't go for walks in the (06:05):
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kind of clothes I would wear toa place somebody could see me.
Like I'm very much like comfortbecause I try to go for long walks
because my legs are so, they needso much work, like the, especially
the neuropathy from the knee down.
it takes me a long time to do,to get any kind of a walk-in
because I have to be so careful.

(06:26):
And I'm, I've got these, like my magicshoes that I wear for walking that
have these bottoms in 'em, and they'recalled guide rails on the sides that are
supposed to help your foot not turn overor anything weird when you're walking.
But that also has a learning curve to it.
So yeah, and I just look like, I just looklike a fucking fool when I go on my walks.

(06:52):
So I just felt free this morning, Iguess, and put on my little shorts.
But tomorrow it's gonna snow, soprobably won't even go for a walk.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I've got so much grading I gotta do. (07:00):
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I'm gonna be stuck inside.
We meandered yesterday,so that was my free time.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I was gonna go, the students had (07:06):
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their drag show last night, andI was, hell, Ben, I was gonna go.
And then I wound up not being ableto, to call it because my legs were
hurting so bad because I have had to,I've done more driving this week than
I have in the past four months combined

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (07:22):
Wow.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: because I've had to go, every day, except (07:23):
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for yesterday, I had to go somewherethat was at least a four hour round trip

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (07:29):
Wow.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: for some bullshit because it's just (07:30):
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two was doctors and another wasdoing, trying to do normal stuff,
had to return something to Amazon.
So you just clear your wholecalendar for that shit.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Speaking of the thing I (07:40):
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sent you was delivered.
yesterday.
It's in a parcel locker.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (07:45):
Okay.
They took it to the post office.
Got it.
Yay.
I'll go check.
Later on.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (07:50):
You are gonna have to let me know what you
think when you, when you check it out.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Okay, I'm gonna try to guess what it is. (07:54):
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Can we play 20 questions?
Can I eat it?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (07:59):
Yes,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Am I supposed to eat it? (08:02):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (08:06):
yes.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: All right? (08:06):
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I think I know what it is, soI'm not gonna guess anymore
'cause I don't wanna be

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (08:10):
Okay.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: So I wanna show you the show and (08:11):
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tell thing I was telling you about.
I remembered that I had these on my walk.
They are, lemme see what yearmagazines, homemade from the
seventies is what these are from.
I, I think that they, theyhave existed for a long time.
I don't know if they still do.
I have some the eighties and ninetiesof a lesbian commune in Kentucky.

(08:35):
Uh, called country women.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Where did you acquire such a thing? (08:38):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (08:40):
I used to have a friend that hoarded things like
this because he thought it made him cool.
But this, these, so I'vegot like a fucking stack

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh, wow. (08:49):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (08:51):
And so like, this one is called homesteading.
This is volume one.
It costs 60 cent at the time.
I wonder where it was sold.
I wonder if it's got the bookstore inhere that published by country women.
I don't know.
I, I don't know for surethat these are that.
They're local, uh, listeners, if you haveever heard of this zine, let us know.

(09:12):
Oh, this one's got a song in it.
But it has all these tutorials forthings like the difference between
a, a mall and a ax and a sledge,and this one's how to build a fence.
So it's like the

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: How to guide. (09:28):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (09:29):
yeah.
There's a book that's about, that's kindof like the field in stream guide, no
bushcraft bushcraft guide, the BushcraftHandbook or something like that.
But this is like the, thequeer woman version of it.
so gonna

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (09:44):
You would think the queer version of the
one that would be called bushcraft.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: why isn't this one? (09:49):
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yeah, I got.
Like 10 of these.
I thought I lost them all becausethey were in a pile of comics that
Ziggy was peeing on down in Kentucky.
She had just the worsthabit there for a while.
If anybody wants a femalecat, just let me know.
Oh, did you fall?
Oh, one's called Women Working.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I had to get we, we has not been (10:10):
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feeling well the last few days, so

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (10:14):
Oh no.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (10:15):
yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Better perk up window. (10:15):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (10:17):
Yeah,
Well, that's fun.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I don't know what she's spearhead. (10:21):
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Strike to the eyes withthe downward block.
She's doing some martial art.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Speaking of Chuck, Chuck Norris died. (10:28):
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Did you hear?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I saw that. (10:31):
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Yeah.
You know, it had been so long sinceI had even really thought about him.
Do, do you know anything about him?
Like, was he

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (10:39):
Well,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (10:39):
dude?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (10:40):
nephew is a, so is, is obsessed with Bruce Lee
and so therefore, like the, the Chuckversus Bruce Lee matchup at whatever
point he's, he's posted lots of stuff.
So I'm a by the way, kind ofConno sewer of information.
Uh, he was, he posted a RIP, butno, Chuck Norris was not a good

(11:01):
guy, from what I can understand.
He was a misogynistic oldschool racist piece of crap.
Xenophobic, uh, maga.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But Afroman, from what I understand,is also a MAGA and everyone is
celebrating him right now, so.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well, that's just, you know, like what (11:17):
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they say a broken clock is right twice a

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (11:23):
Right,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: If you make a cop cry, (11:24):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (11:26):
right,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I'm gonna think that's funny, right? (11:27):
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I'm gonna think that's cool.
Even if I wouldn't want to talkto you about my rights, I'm still
gonna think that's pretty baller.
Sort of similar to Clint Eastwood,you know, he had some dumb ass
political opinions, has whatever.
Right.
Is he alive?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Uh, I think (11:47):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Clintwood, (11:51):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: let's Google it. (11:51):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: if you're dead, you have to tell us. (11:52):
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Otherwise, it's entrapment.
But he, you know, like remember whenhe had that whole debate with Obama
in the empty chair at the Republican

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yes, I do remember that. (12:00):
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He is alive.
He's 95.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (12:04):
Yeah.
And he, like his movies have thesemessy ideologies and things that I
can't agree with, like the whole point.
and, and in a way that'sactually kind of cool, right?
The point of Million DollarBaby is that she doesn't want to
live life as a disabled person.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (12:21):
Right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (12:22):
And that raises this uncomfortable question of
does she have the right to feel that way?
what is the movie?
Is the movie condoning this oris it merely representing it?
So, but anyway, he, but he has some otherideas that are pretty progressive, right?
Like he thinks that queer and transpeople should be left the fuck alone.

(12:46):
Uh, speaking of dead, dead celebrities,Nicholas Brendan also died.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I don't know who that is. (12:50):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: guy that played, he played, (12:51):
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oh, what's his dude?
There's this incel dude inBuffy the Vampire Slayer.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (12:59):
I've never seen a whole episode of that show.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh, I love me some. (13:02):
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Buffy Xander was his name.
He's, in love with Buffy andSimps for her really hard.
But he is also likebroody and pouty and suky.
And every time she dates somebodyor expresses an interest in somebody
that's not him, he gets really passiveaggressive and, he's just not likable.
He's not a likable character.
And apparently the actor himself wasalso, wasn't very likable, but he

(13:23):
struggled with addiction addictions.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (13:24):
I think
I know who you're talking about.
I saw a picture of the guy I think isfrom Buffy, so there's only one guy
from Buffy that died this week, so

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (13:32):
Yeah.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I assume it's that guy (13:32):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (13:34):
Yeah.
Probably

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I was not watching TV at the time (13:35):
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that he was really famous, like latenineties to early two thousands.
I just wasn't watching a lot of tv.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: No, I completely missed it. (13:42):
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I watched it when I was 33

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (13:46):
Got ya.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: and I binged it from beginning to end. (13:47):
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All seven seasons in like three weeks.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, we've done that. (13:53):
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We just did that with the Way Home.
I've always liked timetravel stuff, so I enjoy it.
I, that's, I loved Quantum Leap too.
That really was my firstlove when it came to sci-fi.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I didn't really watch that one. (14:05):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: It is so good. (14:07):
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You should watch it.
Now.
The the remake, they did a whole transepisode, about a, a young girl being on
the, on the school basketball team andshe was trans and her dad was the coach.
And when he jumps in, hedoesn't know anything.
So he, they were down a play.
So he puts the girl in and he hadhad, uh, an arrangement to, to
not play her, let her be on theteam, but not actually play her.

(14:29):
But then he played her andit became a big ordeal.
And it was a beautiful episode.
I showed it in class one time.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (14:35):
Hmm.
didn't even know there was a remake.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (14:38):
the, one of the main guys is genderqueer,
the guy that runs the computer.
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Mason Park. (14:43):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (14:45):
They were very gender progressive on that show.
So, of course it only lasted one season.
You know what I mean?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (14:51):
Right.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I thought it was pretty good. (14:52):
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I was looking forwardto seeing what happened,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh, NBC (14:55):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (14:57):
Yeah, but you should watch the original one.
The original one still holds up.
It's pretty good.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I've seen the odd episode. (15:01):
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Did you see the, the one where hewas the kid with Down syndrome?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (15:05):
yeah.
I've seen that whole showlike five times over.
I,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: like, anytime I would see it, I was just (15:09):
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focused on like, uh, the production,like how they were actually doing their,
what you call it, their effects, know,the way they would film him but him,
but have him also be somebody else.
The moment it would reveal that he was whohe was, that was actually kind of cool.
Ca uh, camera techniques.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (15:26):
Yeah, they did a lot of fun stuff like that.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Okay, I'm gonna pick a page. (15:29):
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Oh, this one's on spirituality

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (15:33):
Ooh.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: structures. (15:34):
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People were just out here, youknow, could you, I couldn't imagine
Gen Z doing some shit like this.
They would be it, they wouldthink it was too cringe.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (15:44):
Yeah.
It'd have to be digital anyway.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: my students make zines out of paper. (15:47):
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Like they, they'll have eventswhere they sit and make things.
Oh, look, it's the, they've gotsome self-defense things, and
it's the key technique whereyou put your, your keys in,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: But see, you're not (16:00):
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supposed to do it that way.
You're supposed to do it withyour keys like this so that you
can stab easier and it doesn't.
Cut between your fingers.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, you're gonna hurt (16:08):
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yourself if you do Do it this

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (16:11):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: my God. (16:12):
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These, this page just says rape.
All right,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: my speaking of rape. (16:16):
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I, uh, ran my, but was it rape exercise?
And I, the, the results this timearound were very eye-opening.
I had a kid who answered one toalmost all of them listeners.
I teach a, a women's studies class and.
As part of that, we do an exercisewhere I read a, a couple of
scenarios and the students on theirown rank, whether they think it is

(16:40):
definitely assault or definitelynot assault on a one to five scale.
And the point of the exercise isto show everyone the wide range
in responses of what people thinkof the exact same scenarios.
It's very clear to most peoplethat those are all sexual assault.
All of the scenarios are, but youget some, some of the guys that it's

(17:01):
almost always a guy, um, that ratesseveral of the, the scenarios as a
one meaning definitely not assault.
And people are just shockedthat you, that you have that.
And I, I did it online for myonline class and I did it in
person for my face-to-face class.
And the results are always the same.
There's always a couple of themwho, who rate them ones and twos.

(17:23):
And it's a very interesting exercise.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Do you think when they do that really (17:26):
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believe that, or if they just wantto hurt you or anybody who, who
might know that they voted that way?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I, the online one, there's (17:36):
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no accountability to it.
It's just, it's just a little quiz.
It's a qual Qualtrics quiz.
They, their name doesn'tget associated with it.
It does, so that I can give them credit.
They put their name in at the beginning,but at the end they don't have, when
I show the results of everybody,their name is taken off of it.
So there's, I mean, I guess thatthere's still some shock value in that

(17:58):
but no accountability of any kind.
And then it, it could be with the,the second the, the guy sits the
back and laughs a little bit toomuch for my liking in my class.
I don't know why he took it.
He seems like an oddballfor to me, but he's there.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Did you say you do this exercise (18:14):
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more than once in the semester?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: No, I only do it once per semester. (18:16):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (18:18):
okay.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I, I used to do it after (18:19):
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our unit on sexual assault.
Um, but then I decided to do itbefore our unit on sexual assault
to kind of gauge where they are.
Because once you talk through, becauseit's between the sex ed lesson where
we go through and one of the things weagree upon as a group, um, usually is
that if you're too drunk to drive, you'reprobably too drunk to consent to sex.

(18:41):
Right.
And one of the scenarios, um, it's twowomen and one of them is blackout drunk.
And they have, a lot of, peoplehave a real hard time saying
whether that's assault or not.
Number one, because it's two womenand they feel like, how can a woman
assault a woman, uh, very easily.
That's the answer.
And then.
They also think if, what if they'reboth drunk, then then whose fault is it?

(19:02):
And you have to be very frank withthem and say, well, you know, sex isn't
something that just happens . It's,it takes the concerted effort of at
least one party to get the deed done.
And whoever's doing that should, shouldunderstand that they're too drunk to
consent, so therefore it's an assault.
they just, they haven't had theirbeliefs challenged like that before.
In one of the scenarios, it's a girl.

(19:23):
There's the, the guy in the relationship.
They've been together for sixmonths and the guy wants to
wait until marriage to have sex.
And the girl decides it's time.
And so even though he said no ahundred times, she whips out a
condom one night and is like, ifyou really love me, you'll do it.
And he thinks about how he got teased.
And so he gives in and people almostuniversally, not universally, if, if
I get a one, it's usually on that one.

(19:45):
Um, a lot of peoplerealize that they're fives.
But if I get ones, it's on thatone or the last one where it's two
guys and one assaults the other.
He never really says no.
He's like, Hey, we shouldget back to watching tv.
And then he tries, Hey, we shouldget back to studying for the exam.
One guy came up after class.
He's, he's kind of a thorn in myside, and he said, um, he always
waits till everybody's gone and thencomes up and talks to me, which I

(20:07):
usually like, but this one's weird.
But he said, well, to be honest,two of those were rape and two
of those were sexual assault.
And I said, how do youdefine the difference?
And he said, well, I thinkit, it's a legal definition.
There's a difference between the two.
And I was like, okay.
'cause I'm not arguing with akid alone in a classroom about
something like this, you know?
And so, I was like, okay, you can,you can think whatever you want.

(20:30):
I really don't care.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, coercion. (20:31):
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They have a hard time with thatone, the first time they find out
about it, because I think people ingeneral are not super aware of how
pervasive coercion is in general.
In

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (20:43):
Right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: our society. (20:44):
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A, a lot of the things we do arenot actually our idea in general.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (20:54):
One time I worked for a rape crisis center and
I ran this, the, this exercise in a grouphome that had women who were on probation
or parole, um, with their children.
They were single mothers on probationor parole, um, with little children.
And so we ran this episode andseveral of them had experience with

(21:15):
prostitution and things like that.
And one lady, we were talkingabout how if somebody asks you over
and over and over again and youfinally give into them, that's not
really consent, that's coercion.
And she was like, well, if that's true,I've been assaulted hundreds of times.
And it was just like one of those,look at the camera office moments,
like, you're so close to getting it.
You know, like, yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Was what happened to Freud actually. (21:38):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: What do you mean? (21:40):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: He before he was even, you know, (21:41):
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out on his own, he was workingwith this other psychologist.
let me see if I can find his name.
Brewer, Joseph Brewer.
They were studying, uh,hysteria in women and

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Wondering Uterus (22:00):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (22:01):
yeah, probably women in institutions was a lot
of, so there's some gray ethics to howthey even conducted this study, they were
doing, you know, interview-based research.
So talking to these women, which.
you just said, wasn'treally how we talked.
That wasn't how we got informationabout people for, for a long time.

(22:22):
We just simply decided whatmust be wrong with them.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (22:25):
right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (22:25):
so like, yeah, their uterus is wandering
around so they must have hysteria.
Well, brewer and Freud thought that, theremust be something scientific about it.
Like there could be something,environmental or social
going on or mental, right.
They were developing this field ofpsychology and they discovered the common
thread among the vast majority of thewomen that they interviewed was rape.

(22:50):
So these women were experiencingPTSD and Freud actually.
Considered that he andI, it's still out there.
You can read what he wrote even though heredacted it, uh, or retracted it later.
But he was like, that can't be, becausethat would mean that almost every woman
experiences sexual violence of some

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (23:11):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: that's just simply not possible because (23:11):
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I personally haven't done that to anybodybecause it was, it wasn't just hysteria.
They were also, it was neuroses.
I think it was just general neurosesand the fact that so many women of this
particular class he was studying andwhere he, where he was studying, had
experienced neurosis to some degree.

(23:32):
He was like, no, was toohorrible for him to imagine.
So he discounted the, the possibility

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (23:39):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: and I kind of, I. (23:40):
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It's hard to say if you wouldn't do thesame, in that time and place and with
what we thought we knew about how the,the farer sex is treated, and to find
something horrible like that, that everywoman you know, that probably experienced
it, your mother, your sister, yourgrandmother, I could totally sympathize

(24:02):
with not wanting to know that, with notwanting to take that, uh, idea seriously.
I think that that's how a lot ofrape polism, I think rape culture in
general depends on our, that need.
We have to, to wish it away to golike, I really don't like that.
I wish it wasn't like that, andI can't do anything to change

(24:24):
it, so I'm gonna ignore it.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, just the widespread denial there. (24:25):
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The denial of widespreadrape is definitely a, a,
a portion of rape culture.
Um, so is victim blaming?
So is, uh, lots of things.
You, you see jokes on tv,you see it in advertising.
I show, um, a pizza box fromDomino's that says no is the new Yes.

(24:47):
Like, yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh my God. (24:49):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (24:49):
Yeah.
And there's some crazy ones.
And then like the language they usewhen somebody's caught, you know, doing
something to a child like Jared Fogel, uh,charged with paying for sex with minors.
You can't pay for sex with minors.
You are paying to rape children.
Like, let's use the actual language, youknow, or this whole Epstein Island shit.

(25:10):
They're talking aboutthese underage women.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Underage women. (25:12):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (25:13):
Yeah.
Like, which is it?
Are they underage or are they women?
Like, you don't hear underage men.
Like you never, younever hear that phrase.
Right.
And yeah, the rape culture, I have toremind them several times that I'm a
mandated reporter and I've always stillgotta do a couple of Title IX things.
It's trickier in my online class becauseI let my students create the questions

(25:35):
and stuff, so they have to be, yeah.
But I have to go in and make sure the,the everything's still going well.
So this is a heavy week onreading the discussion boards.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (25:45):
Hmm.
The name of this book wasStudies on Hysteria from 1895.
There's a cool article I justfound how Freud betrayed his
mentor and invented psychoanalysis.
So this is how he pivoted into,psychoanalysis, like the idea that we're
we're motivated by sex and violence.

(26:05):
So he.
And the death drives and all that stuff.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I, I, I like psychoanalysis sometimes,especially if it's in a feminist context.
Like I, Kristeva's always gonna be oneof my favorite authors, what that's what
she's doing is feminist psychoanalysis.
And so in a way we kind of have togive Freud his flowers, but I've

(26:28):
never read anything of his whereI'm like, oh, yep, you got it Queen.
Like, no.
Well, the best thing he did wasdie so other people could take his
stuff and do something with it.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Tell me how you really feel, dude. (26:41):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It's just so, when you start trying to (26:42):
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tell people about themselves based onwhat you have observed and frameworks
that, that only you have authored,of course you're gonna fuck up.
But I have never citedFreud, I guess until now.
That is kind of what I just did.
Give me a number between one and 20.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (27:02):
17.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (27:03):
Okay.
I'm trying to turn to a page in this book.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: That's what I do to call (27:06):
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on random people in class.
I look at someone and say, gimme anumber between one and 34 and whatever
they pick, that's who has to talk.
It's evil.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: The The Dreams, the thing, I think (27:14):
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this is a creative essay from abook called Older Women Have been,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (27:21):
Ooh,
I wonder if it's older women,as in respect your elders.
Older women or older womenas in sexy time, older women,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I don't know. (27:29):
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It's Hard to Tell is, I think it's a

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (27:33):
I.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: called Rose Anchor. (27:33):
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Uh, but it is not very good.
So I don't know.
It'll take some digging tofind anything good in there.
I've had 'em forever and stillnever read all the way through one

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (27:44):
One of the things I looked for desperately
at my mom's house and never did comeupon, was somewhere in that house,
supposedly was still the remains ofa magazine collection that my dad had
gotten when they owned the porno shop.
And they were, um, all ofmannequins instead of naked women.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: You told me about (28:03):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (28:04):
yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: could mail them out (28:05):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (28:06):
yeah.
Because of the Comstock law.
And so that's before Playboyand all that kind of stuff.
That's how they got around it.
And so there's like eroticmannequin kind of things.
And you can imagine, I can onlyimagine that really was one of the
reasons the sixties was so weird.
You know,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (28:22):
Yeah.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: people that grew up, (28:23):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: or did you give up the (28:24):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I gave up, oh, I sold everything (28:25):
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and I sold the property.
So if it's still there, we lookedeverywhere I could think to look.
So my dad's girlfriend lived in mymom's house for six months between
the time that my dad died and thatI got the keys to the place and
there was a lot of stuff missing.
So if she found the porn stash,she was probably the type to get,

(28:48):
because there was none of that.
There was nothing.
They, they had a copy of theItalian stallion, which was
the rocky, uh, the SylvesterStallone, uh, pornography they had.
That was nowhere to be found.
All that kind of stuff was gone.
Oh, let's talk about something else.
I

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (29:05):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: That's hilarious. (30:50):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (30:51):
It was called Yellow Jackets at the Shell Station
in, in Williamsburg when we were in high

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah, I remember those things. (30:56):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (30:58):
yeah.
'cause they were these giganticpills that were striped yellow and

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (31:02):
Yep.
We sold 'em at the Briar Patch thatsummer that I worked at the Briar Patch.
People bought 'em a lot.
Have I talked about the BriarPatch on this show before?
Probably.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: think you did. (31:10):
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Yeah.
You have.
But I was about to say, I thoughtyou did a, a amount of Appalachian
interest, but I don't know that for

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I don't think I did the Briar patch. (31:16):
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Maybe I, maybe I did.
I can't remember.
Oh yeah, the Greenbriar, whichis totally a different thing.
The Briar patch is the gas stationclosest to my house and my mom's house,
and it is not just a gas station anymore.
They build it into a little market.
You can get literally racing fuel.
You can get live bait, you canget fried frog legs or fried

(31:38):
chicken and jojo's or biscuits.
Um, you can get ice cream,you can get any kind of pop
except for sugar free Red Bull.
They refuse to sell itthere for some reason.
I guess they think it won't sell.
Um, you can get a statue of anIndian lady with an eagle on it.
You can get a sympathy card from 1975.
You can get pizza rolls,you can get slushies.

(31:59):
You can get anythingthat you can think of.
It is there.
You can get the little crackpipe roses on the counter.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Have you ever had frog legs? (32:07):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I refused. (32:08):
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No, I'm not trying 'emoutta the Briar patch.
I'll tell you that.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I've never tried 'em. (32:14):
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I, but I think I'm, remember wewere at me and me and David for sure
were at a buffet one time that had'em, but, and he tried 'em, but I
didn't, but I think I would try 'em.
What's the most country thing you've ate?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Oh lord. (32:27):
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Probably a roast beef sandwich withmashed potatoes and gravy on top of it.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: An open face (32:33):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (32:34):
Yeah.
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (32:34):
okay.
that, is that a hot brown

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I think that's what they're called (32:37):
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in like Lexington or whatever ever.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (32:40):
It's mashed potatoes and beef of some kind.
Open face sandwich, roasted Turkey,tomatoes, cheese, bacon, paprika.
Damn.
It actually kind of good, even though Ihave never enjoyed an open face sandwich.
I've had,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (32:57):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: yeah, I don't know. (32:58):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: She doesn't like soggy bread. (33:00):
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Might be the soggy bread.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, that could be it too. (33:03):
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Like it, the, the soggybread to me is acceptable.
If it's cake, like ifit's sweet, I'll allow it.
Like french toast, I love french toast,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (33:13):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: soaked in syrup. (33:13):
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I love that kind of thing,but not if it's savory.
I do not want

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (33:17):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: toasted (33:17):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (33:18):
Shanna loves a good hot dog with coleslaw,
but she will not eat like a, uh, I makea really good beef barbecue, shredded
beef barbecue that you make sandwichesout of, and she won't eat that because
it gets a little bit wet on the bun.
And I'm like, you don't slather thewhole bottle of the barbecue sauce on it.
Like.
As long as you eat it a rather fastfashion, there's no issue there.
But she still won't do it.

(33:38):
I don't know.
I tried yesterday to get her to eatCrab Rangoon and she just won't do it.
It's delicious.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I love crab (33:43):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (33:44):
Yeah.
She won't do it.
I have been right about so manythings, I'm like, if you'll
try it, you're gonna like it.
And I know if she would justgive it a fair shot, but she'll
never give it a fair shot.
So it is what it is.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (33:57):
My mom was like, that sort of, it doesn't
sound like she was as extreme bad as she I

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (34:01):
Yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: but she was not gonna try new things. (34:01):
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you know, by the time she encounteredsomething like guacamole, she was
in her mid forties or something andmaybe not feeling super adventurous.
So, you know, whatever.
I think so I'd never had anythinglike chitlins or, uh, I never had

(34:23):
pickled pig's feet, but they, like,those were around, we were the people
who had that farm when we were kids,they had pickled pig's feet and like
the, the grosser, things like that.
I am not eating

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, no, my dad liked that kinda shit. (34:33):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It turns to mush. (34:37):
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It's disgusting.
It's because it's gelatin.
It just reduces down to the gelatin.
But I really did love chicken livers.
Like they were just so gameyand irony and they, like, if you
fried 'em, oh man, they're good.
I thought I was, I was over at thegas station the other day and they had

(34:58):
something on the, the hot bar and I swore,I was like, are those chicken livers?
And he looked at me like I hadgrown a penis outta my forehead.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: That would be a neat drink. (35:07):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I was like, I'm sorry. (35:09):
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I thought they look like chicken livers.
What are they?
I don't even remember what he saidbecause it was something completely
not, I don't even know if it was meat.
I was like, you need to take these offthe bar because they're giving some sort
of internal organ that you apparentlythink is not fit for human consumption.
But I like him.

(35:29):
I mean, and I think it's because mydad really liked him and I believe
I got a lot of my palate from him.
He's the one who introduced me tolike kimchi or spicy Asian food in
general.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: never tried kimchi though. (35:40):
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I watch the kid that makes it every daywith his, sometimes you just gotta eat a,
yeah, he'll eat a cucumber with that kid.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I, I love kimchi. (35:47):
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I've been looking forit since I moved here.
I found some, they thought it was cute,some Midwest abomination of kimchi.
It was called like Midwest kimchi.
And it was, it was pickled coleslaw.
It looked like it was, it literallyjust looked straight up like coleslaw.
It was shredded, you know,cabbage and carrots and stuff.

(36:08):
And I was like, this horseshit is not gonna fly.
Haven't found real kimchisince I moved out here.
And literally, you canbuy this stuff at Walmart.
It is not some, like, you don'thave to travel to the ends of
the earth to get this stuff,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Do you want me to mail you some? (36:19):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: not a Walmart (36:20):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I'm sure we have it. (36:20):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (36:21):
here.
That was what, but it's fermented.
And so I don't know if you can mailit because it's in a glass jar and
if it, if you shake it, it explodes.
But I can make some, sothat's what Claire said.
She was gonna look and see if likethere's seasoning you can buy online
because it's just cabbage and some,you know, carrots and other things.
Whatever you feel like slicingup, you can, you can pickle.

(36:44):
But yeah, I love the stuff.
It's so like spicy and hotand I just like cabbage too,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (36:49):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: is weird. (36:50):
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I

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (36:51):
Yeah.
I'm not a big cabbage fan myself though.
I do like an egg roll though.
I usually just take the outerwrapping of the egg roll the stuff
it with rice, ' cause I'm weird.
It's really good that way.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: you do with the inside? (37:01):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Leave it on the plate. (37:02):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh my god. (37:04):
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I miss food.
It's been a long time since wejust sat and gushed about food.
I think I might be hungry.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, I am too. (37:11):
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Shana's supposed to bring Jets home.
Do you remember Jet's Pizza?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (37:15):
I do.
I haven't had pizza in a while.
Actually.
The last pizza I had was breakfast pizza

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (37:20):
I,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (37:20):
the Casey's, from from the gas station, uh,
which is one of the best things they make.
I love their breakfast pizza.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah, we've been eating the (37:26):
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ellos in our little neighborhood.
I like their pizza bread sandwich andsh likes what they call their Amanda
bread, which is basically cheesesticks, cheese bread, cheese strips or

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (37:39):
It's

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: whatever. (37:39):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Amanda. (37:39):
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Amanda

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, I don't know. (37:41):
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Maybe someone, a name.
Amanda liked it the first, I don'tknow if that's just what it's
called, but it's pretty good stuff

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: What's the gas up to there? (37:48):
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Is your

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: like 3 79. (37:50):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, ours is, I think (37:52):
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we're up to four bucks now.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: The shout out to Speedway, I stopped (37:56):
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to get gas there on Shannon's numberand there was 38 cents off a gallon.
And all she buys is a pop every night togo to work on, and we, we've been buying
gas there, so shout out to Speedway.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I have Casey's rewards and the (38:08):
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Upside app that gives you cash back

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (38:13):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (38:14):
gas.
And I still and payinglike three 30 a gallon.
I had to go to Fargo to seeanother specialist this week.
That was one of my four hour round trips.
And I happened to see a placein the middle of nowhere.
This place was in a fucking cornfieldbetween here and Fargo, and they
had gas for like three 10 a gallon.

(38:35):
And I'd like, I, I really feltlike my dad in doing this.
Like I had like.
Almost whi the car off theroad and made a beeline.
I was like, hell yeah.
This is the cheapest gasin the tri-state area.
I, I remember like making somuch fun of old people for, for
frugality and things when I wasa kid and now I'm like scraping.

(38:57):
I have pennies in my pocketfor fuck's sake right now.
Like I'm paying with exact change.
Next time I get a coffee at the,the gas station or something.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: That's hilarious. (39:06):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It is rough out (39:08):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: It sure is. (39:09):
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It sure is.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (39:11):
I asked Carvana what they wanted for my
subie earlier that, a bad precedent.
I don't need to be doing that.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (39:18):
Yeah.
I, uh, they, they sent me anestimate of what my car is
worth versus what I paid for it.
I'm a little pissed, so

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (39:25):
Uh oh.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: yeah, I paid 15 for it, and it says (39:26):
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it's worth like 5,800 for resale.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (39:31):
Yeah.
Uh, is it an American

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: It is a Chevy (39:34):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (39:35):
Yeah.
Chevys do not hold their value.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: man, but my first, my last (39:38):
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one was a Chevy Malibu, and itlasted over 200,000 miles and I,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: that they, they have durability. (39:44):
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They just don't hold value.
It's, it's wild.
Like I have traded incars for and in domestic.
And so for instance, I, uh, had acar, a Toyota that I bought for 7,000.
It was an oh five, it was very old.
Uh, and I bought this thing in in 2009,so it was like four years old at the time,

(40:09):
had low miles it got hit by a flash flood.
And totaled, they totaled it out and.
That I, they gave me for it.
This was like eight years later.
And, and it was, it had even actually beennot salvaged, but it had been in a wreck.

(40:29):
That's why it was socheap to me to begin with.
I just paid cash for the next pieceof shit car I got after that, which
was a Chevy and had no resale value.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (40:37):
Right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (40:37):
But I've got, Subaru's Japanese, I think,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Yeah, it is. (40:40):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Yeah, they, they, it's like (40:42):
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more than what I owe on it.
So I was like, God damn, that is tempting.
But then I just have to get another car.
Although here trucks rain from the sky.
I think it's all the farms.
There's like 2023.
Chevys for sale for $12,000.
Everywhere you look,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (41:00):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: it's weird, although I look at that and (41:01):
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go like, I wouldn't want that thing.
So maybe it's not that weird.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (41:06):
Right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I don't want a 2023 work truck. (41:07):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Hi, wind. (41:14):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (41:15):
Can.
Did you hear Oscar screaming behind me?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (41:18):
I did,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (41:19):
He,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (41:19):
I.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: outside the door. (41:19):
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What are you doing in there?
Who are you talking to?
Are you making friends?
You made a friend.
That's not me.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Linda just went from being very up (41:26):
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and energetic and moving around tojust laying in one spot and sleeping.
So she hasn't eaten in two days.
We're gonna take her to the bed on Monday.
Yeah, she seems to be physically okay.
So she's drinking water.
She's peeing.
Okay.
You know, she just doesn't seem interestedin food, which she has done before.

(41:48):
But I mean, usually you can trickher or at least entice her with
like chicken nuggets or something.
And she just wantednone of that yesterday.
I gave her some sugar waterin case her sugar was too low.
'cause it had been a while.
I don't know.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Oh, it's, it's going around. (42:02):
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I don't like it.
People's all, we are all soold that our pets are old.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (42:09):
Yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: because you kind of, it's started to (42:10):
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feel personal actually for a while there,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (42:14):
yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I'm sick, mom is sick. (42:15):
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The, I know, uh, two peoplewho lost pets in the past year.
Three people now, and I'm like,what the fuck is happening universe?
Take it easy, man.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
No, I'm just old.
When you, as you get older, that shitstarts to happen with more regularity.
And then I start to think like, hasthis, is this what happened to my

(42:37):
parents, to the generation before?
It's like they reached an age whereeverybody just started dying on them.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (42:42):
yeah.
Dude.
I went from having 19aunts and uncles to having.
Basically two left.
I have my one, one aunt thatI haven't ever seen since
I was like three years old.
And then my mom's sister, who I wentand saw like a couple of months ago
but they were estranged a lot of mychildhood, my mom and her sister.
But that's pretty much allthe family I have besides my
sister who isn't talking to me,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well, I. (43:03):
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And if the world's gonna go to shit,I guess we got no other excuses than
to just do whatever we feel like

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Hi PITA. (43:10):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: There's a, there's a job there (43:11):
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at B-G-S-U-I might apply to.
It's in communications though,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (43:17):
Yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (43:18):
know.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: well come on. (43:18):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Uh, yeah, you know what's funny is (43:19):
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like when I left there, I was like,I would move back to Jellico before I
would come back to Bowling Green, Ohio,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (43:28):
Oh yes.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: which is still actually kind of true. (43:29):
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I don't think I would live in BG again,but, you know, I would live nearby.
I would live somewhere thathad culture and stuff in it.
Uh, probably, you know, if therewere things to do that I liked,
'cause there's stuff there thatI, I did really like, I liked.
Being able to take my bike places.

(43:50):
I liked being able to go outside

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: The Toledo area has the number one (43:52):
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park system in the United States.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (43:56):
Right.
Yeah.
There was a lot of beautythere for it to be flat.
Right.
That kind of surprised me.
'cause, but there, like right inthe, the Black Swamp area or in the
BG area, it's god awful looking.
Right.
It that is not a cute town, but youget outside of it and start venturing
a little bit you know, going uh,over into Michigan and stuff like,

(44:19):
it's definitely like around thecollege has some interesting spots.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (44:24):
Yeah.
Lots of potential.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (44:25):
Did you bring a noun of Appalachian interest?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: let me pull it up here. (44:28):
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All right.
Um, this week's noun of Appalachianinterest is Loretta Lynn.
Now, when we talk about Appalachianicons, there are a few names that
come up every single time, and oneof them, whether you grew up on
country music or not, is Loretta Lynn.
Loretta Lynn was born in a place calledButcher Hollow, Kentucky, which first

(44:48):
of all sounds made up, but it's veryreal and very Appalachian Butcher
holler is how you would, should popproperly, say that she grew up poor,
like cold min's, daughter poor.
And that's not just a songthat was her actual life.
Her daddy worked in the mines.
Her mama raised a whole house fullof kids, and money was always tight.
And if you know anything aboutAppalachia, you know that that kind

(45:09):
of upbringing doesn't just shapeyour life, it shapes your voice.
Loretta didn't come into musicthe way a lot of people do now.
There wasn't some big plan orindustry connection waiting on her.
She got married at 14, had fourkids by 18, and somewhere along
the way her husband bought her aguitar, and that was kind of it.
She taught herself how to play and startedwriting songs about what she knew at the

(45:33):
time that wasn't what women in countrymusic were supposed to be singing about.
She talked about marriage not alwaysbeing great about men acting up,
about women being tired about birthcontrol and about double standards
that everybody knew existed, butnobody wanted to say out loud.
And the people lost their minds.
Radio stations banned.
Some of her songs.

(45:53):
Folks said she was toomuch, too blunt, too honest.
But here's the thing, shewasn't making anything up.
She was just saying out loud what a lotof Appalachian women were already living,
and that's what made her different.
She didn't try to smooth thingsover or make them sound pretty.
She told the truth in a way that wasfunny, sharp, and just a little different.
You could hear it in songs like ThePill where she openly talks about

(46:16):
taking control of her own body, whichat the time was a wild thing to say
in country music or don't come homeand drinking with flu on your mind,
which was exactly what it sounds like.
She recorded a long run of duets withConway Twitty and the two of them together
had a kind of back and forth that felta whole lot like real conversation,
funny, a little messy and very human.

(46:38):
And even though Loretta became ahuge star, grand Ole Opry Awards,
all of it, she never reallylet go of where she came from.
She kept the accent, she kept thestories, and she kept the point of view.
And that matters because a lot oftimes when people make it out, they
get polished into something easier forthe rest of the country to understand.
Loretta didn't do that.
She brought Appalachia with her, and indoing that, she made space for a whole lot

(47:01):
of other voices to come through after her.
So when you hear her music, yeah, it'scountry, but it's also labor history,
women's history, and Appalachianhistory, all wrapped up in a voice that
sounds like it's telling you somethingstraight across the kitchen table.
And that's Loretta Lynn, notjust a singer, a storyteller
who didn't ask permission.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (47:19):
Aw.
Did you see, have you seenthe Coal Miner's daughter?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (47:23):
A long time ago, I need to rewatch it
because I have a different lens on it.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (47:28):
Yeah.
Right, exactly.
I totally recommend

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (47:30):
yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (47:31):
The, the way that they portray the relationship
between her as a child and her husband,who is a full grown man, they really show
like the differences in their maturityand what that power dynamic is like.
I don't know.
I, I found, I, I think it is,it is a really good movie.
I think it overshadows the PatsyCline movie Sweet Dreams a little bit,

(47:53):
which does that, but with the fraughtnature of domestic violence and how,
ingrained DV was into our notions ofwhat romantic love was supposed to be.
I don't, I wanna say back then, becauseI, I can't, I would not speak for the
whole country, but in Appalachia anyway.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (48:11):
Right.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: But yeah, like there's, there's the (48:12):
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stuff with like, for instance, on theirhoneymoon, she doesn't want to have sex
because she still is so young that shethinks of sex as something shameful.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (48:22):
Right.
Well, and it's totally realistic.
My stepmother was 14, the first time shegot married and started having babies.
So, you know, and she was fromVirginia, a little town called
Grit, Virginia of all places.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: That's why people used to go to (48:34):
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Jellico was to get married at 14.
' cause you, they, you could get marriedthere under 16, which was I believe
the age of consent in most areas.
Definitely in Kentucky.
I don't know why.
So I think people from neighboringstates that had that age of consent,
they would come across the border toJellico, which also had a pretty big

(48:55):
population at the time because of themines and it being actually fairly rich.
It was, it was kind of likeVegas or Atlantic City.
They had a movie theater.
It was rich as hell.
They were famous people from Jellico.
Grace Moore was this like reallyfamous silent era film star.
So they called Jellico,the Hollywood of the South.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (49:15):
Oh wow.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: For a very brief moment. (49:15):
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It was very influential and affluent.
So yeah, it became a lot like anAppalachian, Vegas or Atlantic
City for a short amount of time.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Portsmouth had a heyday like that too. (49:27):
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We had one of the first NFLteams in, in the area in NFL.
Jim Thorpe, who was a veryfamous football player, was a
Portsmouth Spartan for 10, games.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: those signs. (49:38):
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First time I went out there,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (49:41):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (49:42):
oh, there's a Portsmouth in, in England.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: And in New Hampshire. (49:45):
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And in Rhode Island

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Portsmouth, Virginia. (49:47):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: in Portsmouth, Virginia. (49:49):
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Yes.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (49:51):
Why is it so hard to get the one I want?

' beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (49:54):
cause nobody wants to go to Portsmouth, Ohio.
Not even, not even Google.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: There we go. (49:59):
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Yeah.
That whole region, like theShenandoah Valley it had a lot
of pockets of affluence of theresources that it, it that were
extracted from the mountains there.
But it was so short lived becauseof the way that acute version of

(50:19):
like high octane capitalism thatcannibalized itself really quickly.
Like the, for instance, the waythe, the companies Angelico, they
all just ate each other until now.
It's one big company.
There were no competing companies anymore.
So that part of a company town's history,it, it ends very fast because it is

(50:41):
pure capitalism, which means whoeverhas the most capital is going to win.
Nobody can fight that.
I forget what I was gonna tell you.
Oh, the Patsy Cline documentary though,not documentary, uh, what's it called?
Biopic Sweet Dreams.
It was when I fell inlove with Jessica Lang.
So that was my first like, big crush onJessica Lang, who she did an incredible

(51:02):
job playing, paying Patsy Cline.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (51:04):
Mm-hmm.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (51:05):
I,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: My grandparents really liked her too. (51:05):
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My grandma's favoritewas George Jones, though.
She had a crush onGeorge Jones for forever.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I really liked Hank Williams, senior. (51:12):
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But he has actually kind of a smallbody of work because he died so young.
He was 29, I think, when he died.
And he died on the road.
Like he still wasn't, he, he didn'tbecome a big name until after he

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (51:29):
He died in West Virginia, if you didn't know that.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I I did know that. (51:32):
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Like he was in, he wasin somebody's backseat,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (51:36):
Yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: dying of alcoholism. (51:36):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: One time I was, (51:38):
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I was supposed to be researching apaper and went down a whole rabbit
hole about Hank Williams seniorand how he died and all that.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: because he was, he would have (51:44):
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died in Tennessee, right?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (51:47):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (51:48):
and was supposed to go on a tour, or he was
on tour and was supposed to go to hisnext show, but that show got canceled,
so they were gonna stay in Tennessee, andthen last minute they booked another one.
So he died on the wayto it in West Virginia.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (52:03):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Can you imagine being on death's (52:04):
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door and still trying to go to work?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (52:07):
I mean, that's the American dream, isn't it?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: That's what they do. (52:09):
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Not me.
I'll die alone in mygoblin house if I have to.
One day it'll be spring.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Well today it's technically spring. (52:17):
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Already.
It is.
The

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (52:20):
yeah.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: was yesterday. (52:21):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: It's the, what's it called? (52:22):
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Solstice.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (52:25):
Yeah.
The, well, the Equinox, thesummer Equinox or spring Equinox.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (52:30):
Cool.
well, we get off of here?

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (52:32):
yeah,

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (52:33):
mule,
as Vanessa says.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: sounds good to me. (52:34):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (52:35):
Well listeners, let us know if you have seen
Coal Miner's Daughter or Sweet Dreams andwhich is your favorite, if you have one.
When did you fall in lovewith, uh, Jessica Lang?
'cause I know that we all did.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: Maybe that's a movie we could review (52:47):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (52:49):
Oh,

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I haven't seen it since I (52:49):
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was a long, a long time ago.
I was a kid when I probably When I saw it.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Cold Miner's Daughter (52:54):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (52:54):
Yeah.
Coal Miner's Daughter or SweetDreams either would be fine with me.
I've never seen the Sweet Dreams one.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: I have that one memorized, but I (53:00):
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have not seen Cold Miner's daughter,uh, in a really long time, and I,
I only saw it the once and so Inever have remembered it very well.
So yeah, that would be fun.
We could, we could, uh, look at them.
We could watch them both and donot compare and contrast, but just
like talk about them together.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: you know that Crystal Gale is (53:22):
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dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: loretta Lynn. (53:24):
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beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (53:25):
sister?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Sister. (53:26):
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Yeah.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513: I did not know that until I was (53:27):
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doing the research for today.
I was like, ah, do you rememberCrystal Gale with her real long hair?

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513 (53:33):
Yeah.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (53:34):
Okay.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: learned that in college, I think, (53:34):
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because I had a friend who was biginto, I didn't really listen to her
music either, but, I, you kind ofknow who they all are, you know?
So I still, I don't think Icould name any of her thing.
Uh, things probably like OU Harrisbetter than of course, she's more recent.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (53:53):
Yeah.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: Well, yeah, let's do that then. (53:54):
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That sounds like

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (53:56):
Okay.
Sounds like a plan.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: All right. (53:57):
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Well, be safe out there.
If you wanna get in touch with us, sendus an email at [e-mail].
Or you can find our.
Uh, what's it called?
Newsletter on Substack,the Queernecks Newsletter.
Got uh, some in there every Wednesday.

(54:20):
Uh, just a little tidbits and expanding onsome things or the noun will be in there.
And if you wanna support us withmoney, we technically have a Ko-Fi.
We just don't promote it and don't use it.
If you want to help us get famous nowthat I'm unemployed, that would be great.
' cause I don't know what else to do.

(54:40):
Except for keep making thisshow because I love it.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (54:44):
Me too.

dash--he-him-_32_03-21-2026_130513: All right, well, we love y'all too. (54:45):
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Say hi to you, mom and 'em.

beck-guest84_33_03-21-2026_140513 (54:49):
Bye.