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Episode Transcript

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Welcome to Queerneck, the podcast that (00:06):
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puts the Yee Hall in y'all means hall.
I'm your host, Beck,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: and I'm your host. (00:11):
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Dash.
Welcome to today's episode.
this morning they drownedoff a gallon of blood from me

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (00:20):
Oh wow.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (00:21):
to try

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: They were like ringing you. (00:23):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: testing for all kinds of shit. (00:24):
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And, uh, because I havepots I pass out anyway.
Like they'll, if it's more than twovials, they've gotta, they've gotta
like lay me back like I'm goinginto this atmosphere or something.
Have you had to do that or areyou like, it don't bother you?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: No, I've got plenty of blood. (00:40):
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Apparently.
Like they take seven oreight vials sometimes.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: That's how many they took today. (00:45):
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Sorry, listeners, for anybody that doesn'tlike discussions of blood, but normally I.
Get faint.
And I'm not, it's not needles.
It's not even blood.
I don't know what it,well, it's pots right?
It doesn't have anything to do withhow I actually feel, so yeah, they
lay me back in this like recliner.
'cause you have to warn 'em ifyou don't, you hit the floor.
They get mad at you if you know thatyou're a fainter and you don't tell 'em.

(01:07):
And you know, that's fair.
but they sort of know me now 'causeI kept to go down there so often.
Lately in the past several months,I've been down there to get to
that lab in particular, constantly.
And so when I went in, she, I sawshe had laid out all of the vials and
I was like, oh good god, you mightas well just get a ice pack ready.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (01:26):
yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (01:27):
She was like, yeah, I, I wondered
how you were gonna hold up.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (01:30):
I was in an accident one time and damaged my
right arm in the crease, the elbow crease.
So I always have to have them do it onthe left side where it's not damaged.
So they only get acouple of chances at it.
And I always get the onewho's brand new at it or

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (01:45):
No,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (01:45):
has, has not done it before, or hasn't done
it in a long time, or the one thatlikes to hurt him or that's who I get.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (01:52):
some people just really, maybe, maybe they don't care.
Maybe they're like, Hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: think that's it. (01:57):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (01:58):
But honestly, these folks are, they're all very good.
So there's a lot of reasons I've beenlucky to have them right down the
road and I'm kind of maybe gettingsome exposure therapy on it maybe.
'cause today, like I stayed conscious,I was not well, but all the, all the
precautions and stuff seem to have helped.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (02:15):
I was grading today and one of the questions,
I don't know if you know, Naomi Wolf,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (02:21):
Mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: She wrote The Beauty Myth. (02:21):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (02:23):
Yep.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Which still stands up. (02:23):
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The that particular writing is very good.
Her, her more recent stuffis a little off the rails.
And I wouldn't really trust it.
But the beauty myth, it still standsup and it speaks to a lot of students.
on one of the quizzes, I askedthem to tell me about a time when
they saw the beauty myth in action.
And because they've all seen,you know, that kind of stuff.

(02:44):
It, it's part of the socialization.
We've all had it happen.
And she said that recently she waswatching, or one of my students said
that she was recently watching Instagramand there was a girl who was doing what
she called the headphone challenge.
Would you like to guess whatthe headphone challenge is?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:01):
I, I really don't think I could come up with a guess.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (03:05):
That your headphones fit around your waist?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:08):
Oh my God.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (03:10):
I had another one say that she was told
that she was the biggest of her threefriends, and she weighed 125 pounds.
And so she dropped 20 pounds.
It was down to 105,and it was like, Jesus,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:22):
of your students told you this.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (03:23):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:24):
Hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: They, like, by the end of the semester, (03:25):
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they tell me about their abortions.
They tell me about everything.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:31):
I know what,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: One girl, one time she got some (03:33):
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free uh, condoms at lube, at the,at the union, and she asked me um,
if it was supposed to itch, andI was like, interesting question.
I answered her.
Another girl got pregnant in themiddle of, not like, not in class,
but during, during the semester,
and they tell me everything.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (03:51):
I was actually just thinking this morning about this
discourse going on around, Hollywood's,fairly recent, anorexia, like there's
always been representation and, and, um,sizeism and stuff like that onscreen in
Hollywood in general, in the businessof making art with people's bodies.

(04:12):
There's, there's been issues likethat, but, you know, people are
really identifying this skinnesstrend among, cis women, particularly
cis straight women, a lot of them.
And I was actually thinkingto myself like, I don't care.
I don't care what these women look like.
I don't care what thesecelebrities look like, I just
don't feel very connected to them.
But.

(04:33):
It's not me that's atrisk of their influence.
It's it's kids, like your students.
I guess that also kind ofraises a question, like, what
does my care need to look like?
You know, like, okay, I do care howstudents are impacted by media messaging.
What did, what do we do?
Like, do I, do wecriticize the celebrities?

(04:56):
Is it their responsibility?
Are they victims as well?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: We pin a lot on celebrities (04:59):
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when we want to tear them down.
Like the whole bad bunny thing,saying that it was his job to
unify the nation or whatever.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (05:08):
Mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (05:09):
why was it his job, the Super Bowl halftime
performer, like when there's a presidentthat is supposed to do that shit,
like in the job description, you know?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (05:18):
Sure.
We'll hold,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (05:19):
yeah, a young man completely accountable to it.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (05:22):
yeah, and, and we'll, we'll hold a stranger, a, a
particularly a stranger with a minoritizedidentity to a standard we wouldn't hold
ourselves, our neighbor, our family,
But the, you know, the fact isthere clearly is some sort of impact
or influence on young people and.
I think is, um, eating disorders ingeneral are the deadliest, uh, mental

(05:47):
health, or mental, mental illness.
I'm pretty sure that's what it, it's that,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I think I read that before. (05:52):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: if I'm wrong listeners. (05:54):
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Um, and we're not gonna spend a tonof time on this, but I guess just to
say I don't, it's one of those thingsthat I don't know how they navigate it.
I remember being super impacted bybody image stuff in a queer way, but
I don't know what the cis straightwoman experience of needing to, or

(06:14):
whatever that need that pressure tolook a certain way, would do to you.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I always, I remember always (06:19):
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being the fat girl, always.
I was always the chubby girl.
And then I lost some weight whenI was in high school because my
mom put me on the finfin diet

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (06:27):
Right.
I remember,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (06:29):
And so I lost some weight and I got down,
you know, to a pretty normal size.
And the attention that I got fromthe guys, I couldn't take it.
Like, it just grossed me out.
And that was even beforeI knew I was a lesbian.
I just didn't like how that,that there was such a difference
in the way that I was treated.
You.
Like.
I remember specifically a guynamed Jason Smith being like
you look really nice today.

(06:50):
And it was like, Ugh.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: yeah, the guys loved me. (06:51):
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Like it wasn't like droves of them,but there was always a handful
that were just chasing after meand I couldn't understand it.
I didn't know what to do to get rid of it.
Is that, why, is that why butchlesbians are often fluffy?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: What do you mean? (07:05):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:05):
Butch lesbians, they're kind of chubby.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Not all of them. (07:07):
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There's some small ones,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:14):
I, I was thinking about like all the different,
most people are familiar with thedifferent kinds of gay man, you
know, like Bear Otter, twink, TWK,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (07:22):
right,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:24):
Do you know the different kinds of lesbians?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (07:27):
I don't.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:28):
Because, you know, there's butch and femme, but there's
stone butch, there's soft butch, there'shard fem, high fem there's femme dom.
And that's not even reallygetting into like the dating role.
This is just about the kind oftheir aesthetic, their presentation.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (07:45):
Okay.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:46):
bulldagger.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: How does one decide where it (07:47):
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you fit in the categories?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (07:51):
I think if, if it is in any way
analogous to gay male culture, it'sreally just how you look, right?
It's like I, there's a, it was aninterview, oh, I don't remember what po
what show she was on, but Dylan Mulvaneywas Rec Oh, it was Monica Lewinsky's show.
If you haven't checked out her podcast, itis, it really has some delightful moments

(08:11):
because she's, she's such a good listener.
She's a good interviewer, and she'sgenuinely curious about things that she's
just so open-minded and she interview hasinterviewed a lot of queer people and the,
some kind of wild stuff comes up for her,and then she's just never heard of it.
So she'd never heard of a twink.
And so Dylan Mulvaney was on there tryingto teach Monica Lewinsky what a twink was.

(08:36):
And what Dylan said wasthat she was a twink, but.
To be a twink, you have to be hairless.
And she was a very hairy personbefore she got like electrolysis
and stuff before she transitioned.
So she was talking about the processof turning her body into something
that was congruent with the twinkaesthetic somehow that impacted

(08:57):
her ability to attract a partner.
Because the partner, because there's nosuch thing as a hairy twink, I guess.
So like it's partly based on whatyou just happen to look like and then
also maybe some personality features.
I don't know if I was a lesbianlong enough to find out.
People often called me a butch becauseI had short hair and I wore men's

(09:18):
clothes, but I didn't have, I don'tknow if I embodied it or I definitely
didn't identify with it in any way.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that's how I feel because (09:24):
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I have short hair, right?
I've been to the barber shop many a time.
And my wife is Shannon, lookslike somebody's soccer mom.
You know, she just looks average.
And so you would think that I was theone that could use power tools, but
she went to art school so she can useall the power tools and I have no idea.
She can fix things without directions.
And I

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (09:44):
Yeah,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: for the directions, you know, like (09:45):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: you're a soft butch, I guess. (09:48):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I guess I'm as soft as they come. (09:50):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (09:52):
A lot of, for, especially, I think this is true for
people, maybe just a tad bit older thanyou and I and also I think that there's a
regionality and a, and a classness to it.
I don't think, any of the queerpeople I knew where I was growing
up that were my age, none of ushad any concept of this shit.
But going back to like movies andthings, so like that movie bound,

(10:16):
that's a very classic butch fem dynamic.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (10:19):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (10:19):
And the way that there are, they don't really like
saturate the dialogue with it, butthe way that those two women embody
those characters and the way that they,you know, like pursue one another.
It's actually really interesting becausejust like you were saying is it Corky?
Is her name Gina Han's character?
I'm pretty sure it's quirky.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I've only seen that movie twice. (10:39):
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And the first time I saw it I was like 20

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (10:44):
yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I was just getting into being gay. (10:44):
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Like I had just come out andit was like the first girl
that I dated, it was her house

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (10:52):
Yeah.
You told me you watched it on a date,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (10:54):
Yeah.
And it was just

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (10:56):
a,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: yeah, pretty much. (10:57):
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It's exactly what it waslike, and it was very weird.
I appreciated it, but I didnot appreciate it at the time.
Like.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (11:06):
should, listeners, should we review the Wakowski
Semin lesbian film Bound for queer Necks?
' cause there's a lot to be discussedin here about gender roles.
Because like in a lot of ways Quirky isthat classic, that stereotypical butch,
like she's literally a handyman andshe knows how to do all these things.

(11:27):
There's all of these.
She, we see her doing all thisplumbing and stuff like not only
masculine like typical masculine typework, but we see her penetrating,
she's sneaking out drains and shit.
But when it comes to like therelationship with Violet, she's
wearing her heart on her sleeve.
She's the biggest soft-hearted butch.
That is like every girl who identifiedas a butch that I ever hung out with,

(11:50):
that was exactly what they were like,it was like acting tough and trying, and
they were very, like, there were certainsocially like masculine type of things
that they would do and I identify with,but just like softies, sweeties, whatever.
Do you ever read any, like LeslieFeinberg, stone Butch Blues?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (12:11):
Oh yes, I did read that a long time ago.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (12:13):
Yeah.
Um.
That's an interesting person in general.
I would love to reread that

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (12:19):
Yeah,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (12:19):
book club.
We should do stone butch blues.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (12:22):
Agreed.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (12:23):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't, I never, I never could reallylike, vibe with it, but I do have
people, I know people who are likemaybe five years older, five, five to
10 years older than me who stronglyidentify with the butch fem roles.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I've never known anybody that was (12:38):
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really into it, I've known plentyof people that had like the short
hair and the long hair together.
That's a common dynamic, butI don't know a lot of people
that have played those roles

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (12:48):
There's a, there was a joke about it
in a short, fairly short storyarc on the L word with, um.
You remember the, the character Maxthat this is very like Midwestern,
all American kid that comes out to LAwith Jenny later transitions into Max,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: it's been so long, so I've watched it. (13:12):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (13:14):
Well, so they show up and Moira gets outta
the car and is like being very like,oh, you ladies go inside and sit down
and turns to Shane and is like us.
Butches will get all the luggage out ofthe car and we're very much laughing at
her expense for I, I don't know why thefuck they did it Sometimes that show.
I was like, why did you do that?

(13:36):
What do you want me tofeel about this right now?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (13:38):
Right,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (13:39):
like you don't know what you're doing.
And that's kind of the only timethey ever mentioned like Butch fm.
Well, maybe not only time, but theywould talk about it in theory and then
you would never see it in a character.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (13:49):
right.
And I don't think I would'vecalled Shane a very butch,
she had the look, but

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (13:54):
No,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (13:55):
that was
really about it.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (13:56):
that's a, that was a very androgynous person.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (13:59):
She looks a lot like my friend Brooke with
the, with the collars and, and the black
The spiky and all of that.
She looks a lot like my friend Brooke.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (14:09):
I loved, I definitely wore like button
down shirts and ties and stuff.
In the mid two thousands.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (14:20):
We think that, that Linda got too much chicken the
other night and that's what made her sick.
We don't know if it's thator the new medicine she's on.
'cause they put her on two medicines.
They put her on Gabapentin and Trazodone.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (14:32):
Oh, that sounds like a diabolical combination,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: One's to relax to sleep. (14:36):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: but yeah, that's what I mean. (14:38):
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Like

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (14:40):
Yeah.
The first i, first time I gaveit to her, she was drunk as hell.
It was funny.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: here's my ga here's one. (14:45):
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I have two more of these thatare actually twice as tall.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (14:51):
that's how my if we're playing that game.
This is my metformin.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: It's like a tall boy. (14:57):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: It is like, so like up to my head (14:59):
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and I get two of these at a time.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (15:03):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: twice a day, so I take four a day. (15:04):
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And so yeah, no, I have a littlecontainer that has all my meds in
it so that I can, I, I, I see I'mpretty smart though, so I number them.
I put A or P so that I know,and then I go through, I num.
That way I know I don't miss anything.
And I just go in order and itgoes a lot faster that way.

(15:24):
So

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (15:25):
I need to get more organized.
I say shit like that all the time,like I'm actually gonna do it.
Fucking Christy, Noma is fired.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that is fantastic news. (15:33):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (15:35):
Somebody suffered a consequence in of sorts.
They're treating it likeshe's got some promotion,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (15:42):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (15:43):
but the thing they're talking about her
doing it doesn't quite exist yet.
So right now somebody posted a screenshotof her LinkedIn, it just says like, um.
Was it Director of Departmentof Homeland Security?
I can't remember what the title is.
It's not secretary.
Um, and then parentheses former.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: That's exactly how it should be. (16:01):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:03):
Yep.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: To hell with that bitch. (16:04):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:05):
And this dude who is replacing her is a genuine moron.
Like

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (16:12):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:12):
not that, it's not that that might spare everybody
from him doing some similarly horriblethings, but he is a lot stupider than her.
Like she was a scheming, cunning bitch.
He's not

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Well, that might be a good thing. (16:26):
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We'll

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:28):
maybe.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Maybe he is not completely evil. (16:29):
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We can still have hope.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:32):
Maybe there was one clip I saw of him.
I forget.
So he's, he's a very big, likeproponent of not going to education.
He doesn't have a collegedegree or anything like that.
What's his name?
It's like Mark Wayne.
Yeah.
Oh God.
He looks so stupid.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: he's from Oklahoma, I think. (16:51):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (16:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so it was a deposition of like themin Oklahoma talking about education.
And he said something like,what was we ranked at?
And the person was like, yeah,we're, we're ranked extremely low.
And he's like, it's number one, right?
And she's like, no, it's not number one.

(17:13):
We're not ranked number onein the country in education.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I wonder who is (17:16):
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Probably like Vermont,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: yeah, some rich, (17:20):
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Well, I guess it kind ofdepends on who we're asking.
New Jersey is

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that just moved there. (17:26):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (17:27):
so like, they're number one in
like primary through secondary.
But their number's 36 in higher ed.
Florida of all states isnumber one in higher education.
Who, I don't know, I, I dunnowhat the metrics are on this

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I don't believe there's a single (17:45):
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Ivy League school down down there.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (17:49):
in Florida.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (17:50):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (17:51):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: de la creme. (17:51):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (17:52):
Uh, maybe it's, so like the, one of the primary metrics
I'm seeing listed here is graduation rate.
It's easy to graduate from yourschool, uh, nation report card.
Oh, good lord.
This is a map That's cool and everything.
15 most and leasteducated states in the us.
Massachusetts is number one.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: For the most educated. (18:14):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (18:15):
Yeah.
This is from Business Insider and themedian household income is 104,000.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (18:24):
Wow.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (18:25):
Yeah.
Almost half of the adults in thestate have at least a bachelor's.
Vermont is second.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (18:31):
I've only ever known one person from Vermont.
And they were pretty wealthy.
I, where I went to Miami of Ohio, Iknew people from all over the place
because it was like a magnet school forpeople that didn't get into the Ivys.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (18:43):
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a whole lot of, um,new England, Vermont, Maryland.
It's three Connecticut.
Sensing a trend here.
Oh, Colorado.
A wild Colorado appears
New Jersey, Virginia, NewHampshire, Minnesota is ninth.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (19:01):
What?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: But what's this based on? (19:01):
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'cause this is the picture ofthe University of Minnesota.
So what are we, so, well again, this ismost educated states, Washington, Utah.
' cause they're all

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (19:12):
mean those people with the magic underwear?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (19:14):
Yep.
I was friends when in my, when Iwas in my master's program, um, I
became friends with this girl whoseparents were deconstructed Mormons,
and that was the first time Ilearned about the magic underwear.
And I, for real, I thoughtI was being trolled.
I thought like, that can't be real.

(19:36):
Like nobody, I was, I probablyreally made them feel stupid.
And I, I, you know, I'm sorry.
I probably did, so I'll just go aheadand say I'm sorry for doing that.
But it was so beyond my comprehensionthat that a, that a, not that anybody
could believe it, but that a religionlike that could be like living at the
same time as all the other shit we know.

(19:57):
You know, like, like, wait a minute,this, there's a college, like these
people are at college studying shit like.
Science and medicine and thenputting on their magic underwear

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (20:08):
Yeah,
exactly.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (20:10):
I mean, but, you know, religion is fucking weird.
It's, you know, if you don't,if, if you think that one thing
sounds crazier than whatever isclosest to you, it's just bias.
Because I think I, I knew Jellico,I knew some Seventh Day Adventists.
That was snake holder.
Snake, um, what's it called?

(20:31):
Snake holders.
Is that it?
Handlers right.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (20:34):
Yeah.
Well that's a big part ofsome of the Pentecostal

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (20:38):
Pentecostal.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (20:39):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (20:39):
Yep.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: church did it, but some did. (20:40):
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So I've seen it
done when I was little.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (20:44):
what is a Seventh Day Adventist?
I don't know, this justsounds like the same old shit.
Like, I can't tell the differencebetween any of this stuff and any
other denomination of Christianity
except for the fact thattheir Sabbath is a Saturday.
I,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that the Jewish Sabbath? (20:58):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:00):
OTs.
This has become a really weirdepisode of Queerneck You Guys.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: It has been geopolitical. (21:05):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Oh, it's on Friday (21:07):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (21:09):
Oh,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:09):
or, okay.
Wait.
Shabbath is the weekly Jewish Day ofRisk starting at Sunset on Friday and
ending after Nightfall and Saturday.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: so, so a Friday, a most of Saturday. (21:16):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:18):
Mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (21:19):
So
I follow this group on Facebook calleda, a group where non-Jews can ask Jews
questions, and it's a serious group.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:27):
yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: and you can ask anything you want (21:27):
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about the, the Jewish religion.
Respectfully and I have seen some ofthe most interesting conversations.
I'm, I'm very interested inthe culture of different things

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:36):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (21:37):
I, I've never asked a question because I
wouldn't even know where to begin, butI've learned quite a lot about history
and some of the celebrations thatthey do and, and that kind of stuff.
I can't recommend it enough.
It's really cool,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (21:49):
There's this, um, this trainer, I think, I don't know
if I told you about him, like he does,um, like fitness content for iFit,
which is like the, the Temu Peloton.
If you have a, if you have like aNordic track or something, you can get
iFit and there's these trainers youcan, that'll take you through things.
And he, but he's also ananthropologist, he's a doctor.

(22:13):
And so he'll go run places and they'llfilm like him in, uh, he'll run down
the Iberian Peninsula and it'll bea six week workout program of five
workouts a week of just a half hourof him taking you through a pace and
then doing a lecture on whatever.
You know, the history of thearea, and like that was, it was

(22:36):
like, it was tailor made for me.
That's what turned me into a runnerwas like, because , he also has
a master's in exercise science.
And it's designed for peoplewho don't know how to run.
And so the ver the first like twostraight weeks, the, it's just 30 minutes
of like, you jog for 30 seconds andthen you walk for two minutes and then

(22:58):
you jog for 30 seconds and walk juston and off like that for a half hour.
So it's kind of like some couch to5K programs, but more interesting
because he's lecturing, he's givinga lecture about the history of the
Iberian Peninsula the whole way.
But a big part of that, the historyof that region is the crusades
and how like Christianity and.

(23:20):
Like Moorish, Islamic religions andJewish people, how they kind of all
tussled and moved around that region.
Mostly it was Christianity persecutingthe Jews and the Muslims though.
America doesn't have that shit.

(23:41):
Like our colonialhistory It's very recent.
We don't have this long drawnout history of things like
crusades from the 14 hundreds.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (23:50):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (23:51):
We don't even really have castles.
We have a couple, but like therewere so many castles in that region.
They're not even consideredhistorical markers.
He was like, yeah, there's peoplewho have spray painted this one.
'cause there's just castles everywhere.
'cause that's what they lived in.
Have you ever been outta the country?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (24:06):
I have been to Canada exactly one time, and my
dad was living in Detroit, and there'sa bridge that crosses over into Detroit,
and that was before you needed passports.
So one night he got a wild hairand was like, let's go to Canada.
So we crossed the bridge andwe went to a convenience store
and bought Wild Cherry Pepsi.
And then we stopped.

(24:26):
We went through the McDonald'sdrive through and got french fries.
And that was my entireCanadian exper experience.
So

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (24:32):
gravy?
Was there gravy on the French fries?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: remember, I, I, not that I re my (24:35):
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dad, my, my dad probably would'veordered that he was the kind of guy
that would like that kind of thing.
There's a restaurant at home calledthat used to be called Pop's Diner, and
they served fries with gravy on 'em.
So it was something he, he probablywould've got it if they had it so.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (24:51):
Hmm.
I mean, like, I accidentally crossedthe border once, but it wasn't like
we weren't, we didn't go into Canada,you know, like we, we were just not
paying attention to what we weredoing and wound up what we thought
was a toll booth, was border crossing

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (25:07):
I've been on the American side of Niagara Falls
that's, I've been, that was pretty close.
And one time, Shannon, a couple, a coupleyears ago, we drove to the, up the upper
Peninsula of Michigan and we went allthe way to our GPS We just kept talking
and didn't pay attention and ended up allthe way at Exit one, Sioux Salt Marie.
And we, we were like, well, we'regonna, shit, if we don't turn

(25:28):
around, we're gonna go to Canada.
Like literally, we were oneturn away from going to Canada.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (25:32):
The, um, American side of Dagara
is, is kind of underwhelming

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (25:38):
Yeah.
out of the boat.
I stayed and ordered pizza.
I was there as a chaperone.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (25:43):
Yeah, me too.
I took the McNair SummerResearch Institute.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (25:47):
went.
That's how I got there

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (25:48):
Yeah.
And I walked around all of the, likeif you, if you walk to the falls, like
not out on the boat, but just go downto like, where you can see like all
along that road there's vendors withvarious kinds of foods and, you know,
all kinds of things to, to kind of.
Part, part you from your, yourmoney that you came with, but it

(26:08):
doesn't feel like actual tourism.
It's very like chintzy and there'slike a rainforest cafe and that's
the the most touristy thing therebesides the convention center.
But on the other side, like you, if you goup to the falls and then you look across,
they've literally got like Ferris wheels.
There's a fucking carnival goingon on the Canadian side of Niagara.

(26:31):
And so if you go down there, you're justlike, well, it looks like fun over there.
It was cool looking at night though.
'cause they put the lightsthrough the mist and stuff.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I bet it was like the middle (26:40):
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of July when we went, I think,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (26:44):
Mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: with my, with my legs and stuff, (26:44):
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there was no way I was gonna beable to stand in line forever.
So I was like, Nope, I ain't going.
And I took a Friday napthere at the Niagara Falls

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (26:55):
I don't know.
why I didn't go on the,the boat or whatever.
I can't remember.
I can't remember thateven being a discussion.
But I drove a van loadof students up there,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (27:06):
me too.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (27:06):
And we, I had the fun v so like we had a good time.
Uh, one of the students, I'm actuallystill, I don't get to talk to
them much anymore, but they becamesomebody who, like Sabrina became,
uh, kind of a close mentor to them.
A lot of the students that thetime that I was there as a ga.
That I, got the closest with, theyall moved to Seattle together.

(27:28):
They're like friendship goals.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (27:29):
Oh

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: they're all still buddies. (27:30):
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They live like down the streetfrom each other in Seattle.
I, I just hope that they'restill living, living life

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that's my favorite part of my (27:38):
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job is working with the students.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (27:41):
yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: They can be so funny sometimes. (27:42):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (27:44):
Mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (27:45):
last night, and here I'll read you the exact
wording of the, they were talking.
So the question was about, hang on.
Oh, you commented on this.
So you saw it.
I was grading and the sentencesaid, an example of this is nine 11.
When Muslims and Middle Easternpeople were treated differently
because of what the media was saying.
We were talking about how race thecategories that, that we understand

(28:08):
of racial separation, how that comesacross through history and culture and
language and all that kind of stuff.
that's, they were giving me an example,but when they said the Muslims that just
cracked me up, they did to the linens.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (28:22):
Yeah.
And the Trotskys, oh,
well, you said what?
I, you saw what I commented.
The, um, I was working withthe student on his paper in,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (28:35):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (28:36):
He was doing a research paper, something
about the NBA and I was already like,I don't know anything about the NBA.
Like um, whatever.
Thank you for trustingme with this knowledge.
I don't know.
But it, he kept saying, there, therewere several phrases where he was
like, these sissies and the sissieswho were doing, you know, this or
that and the sissies are causing this.

(28:56):
And I was like, wow, thisis a big issue for him.
Like, he feels so passionately.
And so I had conference with him and I waslike, who, who are you TA talking about?
Like who are the sissies?
Why are you using this strong language?
And he legit had no ideawhat I was talking about.
So, and now I'm thinking about it likeI was saying, like, who are the sissies?

(29:19):
And he's looking at me like, whatthe fuck are you talking about?
And so I showed him a placeand he looked at it and then.
He stared for a while and then finallyhe goes, that's supposed to say issues.
And I was like, I think we justlearned that you might be dyslexic.
Between, between that and Autocorrect.
Got you.
Good.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (29:38):
Yeah.
A couple of semesters ago I had astudent use the word assess like
15 times in one paper, but hemisspelled it every time as asses.
My

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (29:49):
Hell yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (29:50):
ever.
And it ended up beinga, a pretty good paper.
But the, the best opening lineI have ever heard on a women's
studies paper was on Earth.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Throughout time in history (30:02):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: where else would we be talking about (30:04):
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clearly

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (30:09):
on earth.
From the dawn of time.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Oh, they're so funny sometimes. (30:12):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (30:15):
Yeah.
The thing I do, I did like reallyappreciate about teaching women's
studies was that even though the, youknow, the cis straight men were, were
few and far between in that course,but there was always at least one
or two in every section I taught andthey would just, you know, reach a
point where they would go like, allright in for a penny, in for a pound.

(30:37):
And they're just engaging.
Right?
And there was, I remember this onestudent, he was a football player and
he showed up, you know, likely justlike coach said, you know, he was
there every single class and he triedhis best, but then all of a sudden.
Something clicked for him and hebecame really invested when I started.

(30:58):
I, I brought up somethingI was the the Bechtel test.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (31:01):
Yeah.
Do you know that?
Oh my God.
Becky, look at her buttpasses the Betal test,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Oh my God, that's so true. (31:07):
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Well, the Bechtel test is twofold, right?
Like, it, it comes from a comic book.
It's a joke.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (31:15):
right?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (31:15):
It's making fun of the fact that, that this
should even be a difficult minimum toattain, so it's not a literal test.
so that was the part that Ithink really appealed to him.
Like He, he was interested in thefact that somebody used that kind
of humor to draw attention tosomething that is actually an issue.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (31:35):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (31:36):
And you know, sometimes it really is, I, you don't want
to get into a position where you're like,you know, applauding a man for doing the
bare minimum But it's, but it's also alittle disingenuous not to acknowledge
that you're actually kind of surprised.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Well, I mean, you get a, I (31:55):
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get a wide variety of them.
The different kinds of guys.
Sometimes it's somebody taking aguy, taking it with his girlfriend.
That's a common reason forthem to be in the classroom.
Sometimes they are gay and theywanna be there to learn about
gender and stuff like that.
Sometimes they're a football teperson and they've heard the class
was easy, so they, they try that.
So I, there's a fewreasons that they take it.

(32:17):
Last semester I had likefirst day a student tell me
that he didn't use pronouns.
So that's how we startedthis semester last year.
And I was like, don't tell me that.
'cause I will make fun of you.
Like, because Yes, you do.
You know, every, like you, you definitelydo like in that sentence saying you
don't use them, they're using a pronoun.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (32:36):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: sometimes I think you get them (32:37):
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that want to get in there andprove everything you say wrong.
They wanna be confrontational, but whatthey find is that, so one of the questions
I do, I do the question twice on, on twodifferent quizzes throughout the semester.
I say, pick any author thatI have assigned to you and
answer these questions.
Who are they?
What are their credentials?

(32:58):
What have they written?
And are they a trustworthysource of information?
And I say that if you think somethingI've assigned to you is bullshit,
this is the place to tell me about it.
know?
And because, and what they figure outis that no matter who they pick, except
Naomi Wolf just about everyone thatI assign is an expert in their field.
You know, everything that,all the readings and stuff,

(33:19):
like, they're the top person.
So when you realize that this is, youknow, not just a random collection
of essays that I threw together andthat it actually is a field of study
and that other people are out thereagreeing with me, you know, I think it
makes it easier for them to digest it.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: That's a good idea (33:33):
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because if you don't know, and then itreally just sounds like somebody who's
some, so some, there's somethingthat happens when people are
not, it's not intelligence.
There's a kind of like a, the way theyreceive information, if they receive
information passively, if everythingthey know has been told to them, like

(33:56):
just been given to them, and that'stheir thoughts, then it's reasonable
for them to assume that that's the rest.
That's the way the rest ofus get our thoughts as well.
You ever like know, um, a narcissist orsomebody who's trying to be impressive
and sound really smart, but they'reclearly just saying bullshit, but to them
it sounds, everything we say sounds thatway and they, it's reasonable for them to

(34:17):
assume that we're all making it up too.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (34:19):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (34:20):
the idea that someone could be smarter than them is
it doesn't enter their brain at all.
And it's like, no, no, no.
I know what I'm talking about.
So other people who know whatI'm talking about also can
understand the things I'm saying.
Nobody understands what you're saying.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (34:33):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (34:34):
It's very clear that you're just making shit up.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (34:37):
Yeah.
I get a lot of that on these quizzes,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (34:39):
Hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: it, I've said it so many (34:40):
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times, and I'll say it again.
It is so refreshing tobe back on main campus

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (34:45):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: teaching for that other program, (34:45):
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those kids just did not care.
And these kids like genuinelycare, but like the answers,
I'm like, that's pretty good.
You said

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (34:53):
Yeah,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: You know, like there's some (34:54):
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really good work being done.
It's impressive.
And I always give extracredit for two reasons.
One extra credit for extra work.
So if you take a question that shouldbe a paragraph to answer and you
really put some research and thoughtin it to it, give me like a three
paragraph thing, I'll usually giveyou an extra credit point for that.
And number two, you get extra creditif you make me laugh while grading.

(35:14):
So those are few and far between,but they're always worth it.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (35:18):
yeah.
'cause you wouldn't wanna risk toomuch trying to take your, trying
to make your professor laugh.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (35:23):
Yeah.
Oh, I don't announce it.
They just get them naturally becausethey just say funny things sometimes.
And I'm like, plus one LOL,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (35:30):
yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I hide Easter eggs in my syllabi. (35:31):
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I used to hide 'em in my PowerPointsand the readings too so that students
would find them, and then that way Iwould know who was doing the reading.
The people that got the Easter eggs.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (35:42):
You know what I was always really bad at
was writing the assignment prompts.
I, I really think that I must havebeen bad at it because there was always
so much confusion and I, maybe I wasover explaining, but saying less,
didn't seem to clear things up either.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: they just do not listen. (35:57):
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That is a hundred percent sure.
Well, yeah, either or theydon't do either of 'em.
Like on the last exam.
The way that I do my essay questionis that I'll ask you to write two
essay questions, but I'll give youlike five questions to choose from.
That way you can argue theone that you know the best.
And I will make it like inextra big letters, only two.

(36:20):
Like only write every semesterI have at least one person that
writes all eight questions.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (36:25):
Wow.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (36:26):
Yeah.
And then I have to grade eight questionsand I give them extra credit or whatever.
But come on.
You know?
'cause

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (36:32):
Yeah.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: of effort. (36:32):
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I appreciate that you, thatyou, that you did that, but wow.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (36:37):
Well, let's, maybe let's, uh, hear a word
from our sponsor for this week.
This week's episode of Queer Neck issponsored by the wack ass songs and rhymes
we learned growing up in Appalachia inhonor of honorary queer neck Jennifer,
who reached out this week to tell usthat she, recognized a reference I made
last week to the song Go Talent Roadie.

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So somewhere along the line, lullabiesgot real gentle and cute, like soft piano
stars, twinkling sheep, politely hoppingfences while everyone drifts off to sleep.
That is not the catalog ofmy crazy mountain youth.
The old songs that floated aroundthe kitchens and porches will full of
dead geese, doomed frogs, gopher guts,questionable courtships, and busy body

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wildlife, who among us doesn't rememberexactly where we were the first time.
Our older and wiser cousin taught usthe lore and lightening of great green
gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts.
It's not all Gore though.
Consider go tell Ant roadie.
The entire premise is that somebodyneeds to go and form ant roadie That
the old gray goose has died in themill pond, not peacefully passed away.

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It is dead.
The song sends several versesworking through the emotional and
practical implications, includingwhat might be done with the feathers.
Then there's froggy win.
AOR frog shows up in formal wear.
To marry Miss Mouse, he brings a swordand a pistol, which already suggests the
ceremony could go a multitude of ways.
The wedding supper gets underway andbefore long, a local aquatic predator

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enters the scene and ends the festivities.
Everybody has a great time upuntil the moment they no longer
did and Sourwood Mountain.
Half the lyrics sound likesomebody just standing on a
ridge naming every dog they know.
While punctuating the listwith a colorful hi hoe.
It feels like a song written bysomebody who had a long afternoon,
a decent view in a banjo.

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The stories wandered all over the place,but the singing itself stuck with you.
Lyrics might involve deadpoultry, suspicious frogs, but
the feeling underneath is simple.
people keeping each other company.
That music helped families through longwinters, hard work, and the general
weirdness of living near a lot of woods.
We are indebted to the old andweird things that made us and
grateful to have continued to findweird and old things along the way.

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Now, going up Cripple Creek andtell 'em Queer Neck sent you,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: That's fun. (38:55):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (38:56):
we sang the Greasy Grimy Go for Gut song all the time.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (38:59):
So my dad had two that he would sing.
The, the first one my dad or mymommy told me if I was goody, that
she would buy me a rubber dolly.
My uncle told her, I kissed a soldier.
Now she won't buy me the rubber dolly.

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Yo twerp

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: What is a rubber dolly? (39:27):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (39:29):
a doll.
They had a rubber, I guess.
I don't

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (39:31):
I don't know why you'd want that, but

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: And then the, the, the more popular (39:34):
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one that I think people have heardis the 3 6 9, the goose drunk wine.
The monkey chewed tobaccoon the streetcar line.
The line The monkey got choked, and theyall went to have it in a little rowboat.
A a,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (39:48):
we did that one by jumping rope.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (39:50):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (39:51):
Mm-hmm.
Did you ever jump rope?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (39:53):
Yeah.
Until I got too fat.
And then when we moved out the country,I didn't have any kids that live
near me, so it got kind of boringand I had a gravel driveway anyway.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:01):
Yeah, a lot of this was just the,
on the playground at Jellico.
Or with my cousins.
We didn't jump rope well, wedidn't have any flat place.
So like when we hung out,it was like on a hillside.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Did you do jump rope for your heart (40:14):
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and gym class where you had to raisemoney and you'd gotten teams and
you had to jump rope for so long?
It was a

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:22):
No.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (40:23):
Yeah.
For the heart, for

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:24):
Okay.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: American Heart Association. (40:25):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:26):
I don't recall anything like that.
I don't recall the presidential challenge.
You remember that?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (40:31):
Oh yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:32):
I never had to climb a rope or anything.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (40:34):
ours was pushups and sit-ups, I think, and running
around the a mile or something like that.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:40):
No, we just, I mean, we would, sometimes
we would have foot races and alot of times we'd play basketball

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: talking about that the other day. (40:49):
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I've never played a gameof basketball in my life.
It never came up in gym class.
It's never come up like I'vethrown the ball on a, with a hoop.
You know what I mean?
But I've

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (40:58):
mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: basketball before, which is a lesbian is (40:59):
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like a, a timeout kind of penalty thing.
I lose some cool lesbian points.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Your lesbian card. (41:08):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: that's what I was going for. (41:09):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: We played kickball a lot. (41:11):
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We played that outside though.
So like, there was, and of courserecess and gym class were different.
There wasn't, there was a certainpoint in school, we didn't have a
gym class every year, but you alwayshad recess, if that makes sense.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (41:25):
Was your was your playground separated by sex?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (41:28):
No.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Ours was, and (41:28):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (41:30):
Interesting.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: very weird because I've asked students (41:31):
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and I'm like, yeah, I, I, I've,I've told students that for years
and they all act like I'm crazy.
But the monkey bars was right in themiddle and everybody can play on the
monkey bars, but the boys stayed on oneside and the girl stayed on the other.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (41:44):
I've never heard of such a thing.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (41:46):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (41:52):
I think the best playground I remember was
at our head start at at Newcombe.
It was just welded together, steelrods and gigantic tractor tires kind of
half buried or cut into pieces and wewould just climb all over 'em and they
were spray painted different colors.

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So as we'd come home with paint,like various colors on our hands

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: That's a lot of fun. (42:17):
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Did you ever have a firemanpole in any of your, like

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (42:21):
mm-hmm.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Oh, there was, I was terrified (42:24):
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of it the entire time I lived inPortsmouth, but Mound Park, they
had a little playground area.
They had a couple of slides and they hada fireman pole and you had to climb up
it, and then you could slide down it.
Oh, I, I could never do it.
was two
chicken.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (42:37):
I don't, think I would've been able to either.
I, I can't remember itever being around one.
The, the park we went to the mostoften Jellico, like this out,
like outside of school, was IndianMountain State Park at the time.
There was not a lotgoing on with that park.
It was a bunch of picnic tables.
It had, there was a walkingtrail and just a bunch of ducks.

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You could, you could paddle boat.
I, I just don't remember abunch else going on there.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (43:05):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (43:06):
We would ride our bikes and that was about it.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (43:08):
There was a, a little league baseball diamond.
There were two fields there,there was a set of tennis courts.
There was a lot of green space.
In later years they built a bigwooden playground, but that was
never there when I was a kid.
We just had a metal oneup by the tennis courts.
They built an extensive wooden oneright by the mound, so that was cool.

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It was a nice little park.
Had a good hill to rolldown when it was leafy.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (43:33):
There was some tennis courts by the high school
Jellico, but they were not maintained.
So there was grass growing up andthen there was no nets and never
saw anybody actually playing with.
The only thing they didthere was cow bingo.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (43:48):
Oh, wow.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Like they would draw the, (43:49):
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senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (43:50):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (43:50):
would draw the bingo cards on the, the tennis
courts and then walk the cows around.
Listeners, let us know if youdon't know what cow bingo is,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Did you ever play cakewalk? (43:58):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:00):
Yep.
I never won one.
Did you ever win a cakewalk?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:03):
yeah,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:03):
You did.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:04):
yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:05):
Dang,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I've always been (44:06):
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kind of, until I started callingBingo, I was pretty lucky.
And then I used up all of my luck bynot calling those old ladies their
bingos, and now I can't win for shit.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:15):
Dang.
I used all mine up findingall those four leaf clovers.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:19):
Yeah,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:20):
It's getting to be time for them to be blooming soon.
I wonder if there's a patchanywhere near my house.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I wonder. (44:26):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:27):
I don't think winter's done with us though.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:29):
Yeah.
No, it's supposed to be in the seventieshere in the next couple of days, and
then it goes right back down to 35.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: It's 30 something here. (44:36):
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It was supposed to snow though, and thesnow never happened, so that's cool.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:41):
It.
I, it was apparently gotup to 60 degrees today.
I haven't been outside.
I've been working all morning.
Well, I slept in a little bit,but then I worked all morning.
It's spring break, man.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (44:50):
I was gonna ask, is it, it's next week for us.
I, was it this week?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (44:55):
Yeah.
And I've had a cold the whole time.
I
had a, a stomach virus and a cold.
It sucks at least that it could be onevirus that combined the, the symptoms
of both of those things or I think, Ithink that I got one of each, 'cause my
head cold isn't too bad, but the stomachvirus was pretty, I threw up at a Mexican
restaurant is all I'll say about that.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (45:14):
Jesus,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (45:15):
Yeah,

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (45:16):
you are probably not the first one.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I had to throw up in a public (45:17):
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toilet, and that was disgusting.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (45:20):
That's awful.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (45:21):
I washed
my hands for like five minutes.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (45:24):
Do you have a noun of Appalachian interest?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I do, I do. (45:26):
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I came up with a fun one for this week.
All right.
Now if you wanna understandAppalachia in about three hours
flat go to the county fair.
A county fair is where thewhole region shows up at.
Once farmers bring their best livestockkids, show the animals they raised
all year through four H and FFA.
Somebody's grandma enters a pie contest.

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She secretly has been preparingfor since last August.
fairs actually go way back.
The first ones in the United Statesstarted in the early 18 hundreds
as an agricultural exhibition.
Farmers would gather to show crops,animals, and new farming tools.
And over time these events picked uprides, games, and food stands until
they turned into the slightly chaoticcelebration that we know today.

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And by chaotic, I mean wonderful.
I mean, you've got funnel cake dustfloating through the air, like powdered
sugar, snow, somebody winning a giantstuffed banana at the ring toss.
And then there's the line at thefreshly squeezed lemonade stand
that's been there since 1997.
Then there are the animals.
You'll see everything from prizehogs to chickens that look personally
offended to be there somewhere, ateenager in boots and a belt buckle.

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The size of a dinner plate is tryingto guide a stubborn goat around a ring
while a judge watches very serious.
But one of the best parts of thecounty fair is the people watching.
You'll see a whole lot of Appalachianfashion from cowboy hats to flip flops,
to work boots, and somebody's unclewearing camouflage shorts and an American
flag tank top like its four bowl attire.
Half the fun is just sitting on abench with a lemonade and watching

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the parade of humanity stroll past.
Every local church seems to set upone of these white tents where the
volunteers are selling plates of foodto raise money for youth group or
the mission trip fund or whatever.
You walk up and somebody's grandma handsyou a foam plate piled high with things
like pulled pork, green beans, bakedbeans, corn bread, and a slice pie.
It's the kind of meal that tasteslike somebody's mammal's kitchen, the

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real event, the one that everybodywaits for, is the demolition derby.
you've never ever seen one, I'm sad foryou, but imagine a group of old cars or
school buses or farm combines on theirvery last legs spray painted with names
and a derby number being driven straightinto each other while a crowd cheers.
Like it's the Super Bowl.
The goal is simple.
Keep your vehicle runninglonger than everyone else's.

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The last man standing wins oh, andit is definitely loud and dusty.
And there's fire and mud and sirens,and it's absolutely glorious.
And here's the best partabout the county fair.
No matter where you're from inAppalachia, when you walk through
those gates, you're gonna see somebodyyou know, a cousin, a teacher, a
guy who sold your uncle a truck.
In 2003, might show up for therides or the livestock show.

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You might show up to see yourkid in the local high school
band parading around the loop.
You might even show upfor the fried Oreos.
But most people showup for the same reason.
They always have to seeeverybody else who showed up.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (48:12):
Yep.
That's like prime people watching.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (48:16):
The last time I went, and it's been a while
since I've been, the last time I wentthere was a guy in full axle rose gear.
Like he had, he looked likeaxle rose from the eighties.
Like we, we secretly tookpictures with people.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: I've done that before too. (48:30):
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You're not gonna do anything with it,you know, you're just sort of like, I.
Like there's pictures of people thatcame to orientation at EKU that sometimes
I'm just like, I can't believe I wasin the same place as this person.
Like this is, this istop 50 moment for me.
There was one who lookedexactly like little bubby child.

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It was awesome.
I just kept like wanting to walk near him.
Maybe it was him.
I don't know.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: It might have been. (48:59):
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What are you gonna do forthe rest of the evening?

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (49:02):
I think I'll get on my treadmill.
I might have a hot drink, of some kind.
Watch something stupid.
Maybe talk on the phone.
Mom.
I'm just gonna go crazy,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: That sounds like a fun evening. (49:14):
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Do
you wander your housewhen you're on the phone

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (49:18):
uh, yeah, sometimes like what else are you gonna do?
You know?

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: and always in weird places like (49:23):
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you're sitting on top of yourrefrigerator and shit like that.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (49:28):
I was thinking, I think we mentioned this last time
maybe, but, our one year anniversaryof the show is gonna be on June 1st.
It's the first day of Pride month.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (49:41):
Nice.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (49:41):
So it'll be our 53rd episode, I'm pretty sure.
And I was like doing some, somejournaling about what might be fun to do.
And I really am like, I'm just gonna make.
Me and you some t-shirts,some Queerneck t-shirts.
I've been wanting to get a cricket and,you know, do stuff like that for a while.

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I always, I love designing shirts.
I design shirts for the drag showsand stuff at school because we are
too cheap to have graphic designers.
So, I think I'll do that.
And, you know, maybe, maybe we, Imake some stuff for us to do a little
giveaway, but either way we, youknow, I'm interested in hearing from
listeners what you all might, what mightbe fun to do as, um, anything during

(50:27):
Pride Month, you know, to celebrateus managing to do this for a year and
to celebrate pride month and whatever.
So let us know.
You can send us an emailat [e-mail].
You can message us on theFacebook, the Queerneck Facebook.
You can technicallymessage us on Instagram.
I just don't log in there veryoften, but I will read it and

(50:50):
let us know what sounds fun.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (50:52):
Woo.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: What are y'all doing? (50:52):
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This, this, uh, Friday evening.
Let's peek behind the kimono.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (50:58):
I have to get up pretty early in the morning.
Every year I'm a judge for the OhioHistory Day competition on campus.
I really like doing it, so, probablygo to bed early, so we'll probably get
something to eat, maybe watch an episodeor two of my show call it an evening.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (51:12):
Yeah, I've still got the last episode
of heated rivalry to finish.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: watch that or not. (51:17):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (51:18):
it's um.
I found it an easy watch.
You know,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (51:21):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (51:22):
the, like, it's, there's not they're
not queer baiting, right?
There's no like, ooh, will they,won't they like these, those boys
get to fucking, you know, likethey are, and it's, it's sweet.
They're sweet to each other.
It's relatable.
There's the being closeted the pressureto, you know, what it's actually
like to have to come out there.
There's not a ton of coming out storiesanymore, which is fine, because I

(51:45):
don't think, I don't think Gen Zexperiences that the way that we did,
and that's kind of what we hope for.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (51:53):
Right.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (51:54):
for somebody who did have to feel
that way, it feels very relatable.
You know?
It doesn't hurt.
It feels like, oh, okay.
Like there's no twistingthe knife, I guess.
So it's, you know, I've, I've enjoyed it,but I've also been kind of spacing it out.
Like I'll watch one episodeevery other week or something.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (52:12):
Gotcha.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (52:14):
But,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: check out that show Hillbilly on Hulu? (52:14):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (52:16):
oh,

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (52:17):
on Hulu.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (52:18):
I did not.
Yeah, the, the documentary.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (52:21):
Yeah.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (52:22):
All right.
Okay.
I will do that.
I'm pretty sure I have Hulu.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: somebody else (52:26):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: Well, let us let y'all go. (52:26):
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Um, happy Women's History Month.
History month.
Read a feminist book thismonth and tell us about it.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (52:38):
I recommend Bell Hooks and Audrey Lorde.
Both are fantastic reads.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (52:43):
Yeah, if you're any of our, we have
quite a few, um, cis straightlisteners, which is, which is neat.
Um, but if you're one of our cisstraight male listeners, check
out bell hooks is, oh God, nowI can't remember the name of it.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: I got it right here. (52:57):
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I know exactly what you're talking about.
It is called The Will to Change.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205: The will to change. (53:03):
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Yeah.
Fabulous.
Look at the, the negative impacts ofpatriarchy on cis straight men and how
y'all don't have to be living that way.
And I can't think ofanything else to say so.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205: Well, yeehaw, fuck the law. (53:17):
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dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (53:19):
Right.
Fuck Donald Trump Still.
Fuck Christie Nome.
I hope she's miserable.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (53:23):
I hope
that bird, leg and ho gets kickedout of her house and everything.

dash_30_03-06-2026_161205 (53:28):
right?
Yeah, she don't deserve nothing.
Nice.
And uh, yeah, hang in there.
Springs.
Springs are coming.
Say hi to your mom and them.

senor-becko_31_03-06-2026_171205 (53:36):
Bye.