December 1, 2025 • 32 mins
Ever feel the tug to retreat to what feels safe and familiar when life gets hard? We sit with a community that knew that pull well—Jewish believers near Jerusalem, pressured to trade the risk of following Jesus for the predictability of rituals and rules. Hebrews chapter 4 offers a bracing alternative: not more striving, but a living Word that cuts through our defenses and a Great High Priest who turns exposure into healing.
We start with the scalpel. “The word of God is living and active,” sharper than any two-edged sword. When Scripture lays us bare, it separates what we can’t—thoughts from intentions, appearances from motives—so God can remove what harms and restore what’s healthy. Then comes the pivot that changes everything: the One who sees everything is the same One who welcomes us. Jesus has “passed through the heavens” as our Great High Priest, not standing in endless effort like the priests of old, but seated because the sacrifice is complete.
From there we explore how Jesus’s sympathy becomes our courage. Tempted in every way we are, yet without sin, He knows the weight we carry and the cracks where we break. That sympathy is strong enough to help us in real time. We also unpack the role of priest versus prophet and why it matters that Jesus, from the tribe of Judah and not Levi, represents us before the Father according to a higher order Hebrews will soon reveal. The takeaway is practical and personal: hold fast your confession because Jesus is better—better than angels, Moses, and any system that promises peace through performance.
The invitation lands with urgency and comfort: draw near with confidence to the throne of grace to receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. If striving to please yourself or some religious organization has left you tired, come close to Jesus. If hidden motives keep sabotaging your peace, let the Word do its careful work. And if you’re tempted to go back to what once felt safe, look again at the One who knows you, stands for you, and never stops interceding. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs rest, and leave a review to help others find a better way forward.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:19):
Hello and welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible.
My name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve.
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We are now currently goingthrough Hebrews.
So if you have your copy of theBible, open it to Hebrews
chapter 4.
A little bit of review before weget started.
The book of Hebrews, of course,is written to Jewish Christians
that have decided to followChrist.
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The writer here is intimatelyfamiliar with Jewish background.
He quotes the Old Testamentextensively.
In the first chapter, he taughtthat Jesus was God, and then he
also taught that Jesus was man.
As such, he experienced allthings just as we are.
He explains how Jesus is better.
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He is a better sacrifice.
He is better than the Mosaiclaw.
He is superior to the angels.
So we've been learning a greatdeal of theology about the
person and the being of JesusChrist.
Not only who he is and his beingis far above all the created
world, but he is also superiorin his position as high priest,
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as we're going to see today andthroughout the book.
Steve, it's just a wonderfulsection.
What else can we know aboutthese Jewish believers here that
this book was written to?
SPEAKER_00 (02:21):
That's what we should always keep in the
forefront as we go through here.
There's so much things inHebrews that we can make
application to our lives today,and we'll continue to do that as
we go through the book.
But let's keep in mind that asyou stated, these are Jewish
believers.
As we established in ouroverview, they were probably
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living somewhere in theJudea-Samaria area.
They're close to the city ofJerusalem and the temple.
We know that there ispersecution of these Jewish
believers taking place throughthe story of Saul.
We see that in Acts of what he'sdoing, and he often refers to it
as well as to him that was outpersecuting these.
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And in fact, it says that whenhe first started his ministry,
that there were Jewish believersthat were kind of skeptical of
him because he had such areputation of going out and
persecuting the newly Jewishbelievers.
This is what the author isaddressing here, in that he's
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doing just what you've talkedabout.
Jesus is above everything, abovethe angels, above Moses.
He's going to talk here in alittle bit about Jesus being
above the Levitical priesthoodsystem.
When we get into chapter 10,we'll see a little bit more of
this reason of persecution.
But what's the easiest way torelieve the persecution from the
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Jewish leadership?
Well, it's to go back underJudaism, to go back and start
following the law and do all ofthe sacrifices and rules and of
the law in order to relieve thispressure.
That's what the thing we shouldkeep in mind as we go through
here.
The author is writing to them inencouragement by saying that
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Jesus is better than all ofthese areas of Judaism, that
they have selected and chosenthe right way to go, and that
they should stay on that pathand not go back under Judaism.
He's been using the example ofthe Jewish people, Israelites at
Kadesh Barnia, as far as goinginto the land, that they
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faltered and fell short, andthey didn't stay true in belief
that God was going to get theminto the promised land and
protect them.
And because of that, thatgeneration was not able to go
into the promised land.
They fell short.
So the author is encouragingthese believers, don't make that
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same sort of a decision.
Stay with Jesus Christ.
The way you have chosen is thecorrect way.
Don't falter, keep going, andyou'll be able to enter into
this rest that he's been talkingabout of the life of faith.
And then he just got throughtalking at the end of our last
session, Glenn, of this Sabbathrest.
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And we went into quite detail onthat.
That this is something that'sgoing to happen in the future
for all of us who are believers.
That's the background that wewant to keep in mind as we go
through here and makeapplication to our lives today
of what this author isaddressing to these Jewish
believers.
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
The last part of chapter three and the first part
of chapter four talkedextensively cautioning these
Hebrew believers about don'tmiss this opportunity for rest.
The reason is if you go backinto Judaism to keeping commands
and doing deeds in order toprove yourself righteous, then
therefore you won't have anyrest.
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There's no rest in law keeping.
There is rest in Christ.
That was the message.
The question then before us thatnaturally arises is how?
It's one thing to say, well,take advantage of this rest.
It's something else entirely tosay, How do I enjoy Christ?
How in my weak flesh am I torest in Christ?
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Well, the next section tells ushow it's through the Word of
God.
Steve, can you start at Hebrewschapter 4, starting at verse 12
and going to verse 16?
SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
For the word of God is living and active, and
sharper than any two-edgedsword, and piercing as far as
the division of soul and spirit,of both joints and marrow, and
able to judge the thoughts andintentions of the heart, and
there is no creature hidden fromhis sight, but all things are
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open and laid bare to the eyesof him with whom we have to do.
Therefore, since we have a greathigh priest who has passed
through the heavens, Jesus, theSon of God, let us hold fast our
confession, for we do not have ahigh priest who cannot
sympathize with our weaknesses,but one who has been tempted in
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all things as we are, yetwithout sin.
Therefore, let us draw near withconfidence to the throne of
grace, so that we may receivemercy and find grace to help in
time of need.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
Verse 12 talks about the Word of God.
The question is, how powerful isthe Word of God?
What is it capable of doing inour lives?
SPEAKER_00 (07:38):
Well, the first thing to realize here is that
it's number one, living.
The second thing is it's active.
That means that it is somethingthat is not dormant.
It's not something that isinert.
The word of God is somethingthat will take action and
conviction on a person's life.
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Then there's some illustrationsthat he gives here, sharper than
any two-edged sword, as he talksabout the piercing of the
division of the soul and bothjoints and marrow.
I think we get a picture of asword that can pierce through
any type of protection that awarrior might have, or through
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any type of a shield that somewarrior might put up.
He's saying that the word of Godcan pierce through any type of
defenses that we might put up inorder to avoid what the word of
God is convicting us of.
I think that's one thing to keepin mind.
The word of God is active andit's alive, and it's something
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that will pierce into a person'ssoul and spirit and bring up to
light the things that he isdoing against God, convicting
that man of knowing what I needto do is I need to trust in the
Lord Jesus Christ who has paidthe death penalty for my sins.
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I can believe and trust in him.
SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
Verse 12 says, the word of God is alive, it's
living, and it will cut us tothe core.
I'm reminded of a surgeon with avery sharp scalpel, and a
skilled surgeon will open youup, lay you bare, go inside to
your core and do work that needsto be done.
He'll take out things that needto be removed.
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He will open you up and do whatneeds to be done because he is a
skilled surgeon with a sharpscalpel.
That is the word of God.
The Holy Spirit can take theword of God and do surgery on
your soul.
He will cut you to your core.
It also tells us here that it ispowerful enough to separate
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things that we cannot separate.
He gives three or four exampleshere.
He says, division of soul andspirit, joints and marrow, and
able to discern the thoughts andintentions of the heart.
Now, this passage here is oftenused to make a hard distinction
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between human soul and spirit.
I've even heard some Bibleteachers make a whole little
area of theology around humanshaving both a soul and a spirit.
However, this passage tends tosuggest that these are
inseparable, that we cannotdistinguish or separate between
them.
For example, the discerningbetween joints and marrow, the
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word there is really the joiningand the marrow.
It's impossible to take a knifeor a sword and have the marrow
in one hand and the joint or thejoining in the other.
No, the marrow makes up thejoint.
The thoughts and intentions, youreally can't have one without
the other.
You can't have intention withouta thought, and you can't really
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have a thought about somethingwithout having an intention.
To separate things that areinseparable is what it's saying.
So it would seem that soul andspirit cannot be separated
either.
Now, Steve, there's a verse inThessalonians, is there not that
would seem to indicate some moreinformation on this?
SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
Yeah, we have a verse in 1 Thessalonians chapter
5, verse 23, that says, Now maythe God of peace himself
sanctify you entirely, and mayyour spirit and soul and body be
preserved complete without blameat the coming of our Lord Jesus
Christ.
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Through that cross-reference, itseems like there is a division
of at least a body, soul, andspirit.
SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Interesting fact to consider.
This passage, I think, would beone of the passages that would
lead to draw conclusions fromthat.
Nevertheless, the main point ofthis section, if we move on, if
we look at specifically verses12 and 13, it talks about how
much God knows.
Steve, what does it say there inthose two verses, 12 and 13,
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about how much God knows?
SPEAKER_00 (12:06):
It says there's no creature that is hidden from his
sight, that all things are laidbare to his eyes.
That's a very clear picture thatyou're not going to be able to
hide any type of ungodly acts orsinful acts from God, that he's
going to know everything that wedo.
Now, that's also going toinclude godly things that we do.
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We can take rest in knowing thatGod can see everything and knows
everything.
There's nothing that even saysthere's no creature.
So it's not just human beings,but it's everything.
He has oversight and wisdom andknowledge about everything, all
of creation itself, of what'sgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (12:52):
This analogy here, this uh language here, the word
of God is living and active andsharper than a two-edged sword.
A two-edged sword cuts bothways.
Oftentimes we find out that whenwe try to learn the word of God
so that we can advise otherpeople or maybe teach other
people or help other people,oftentimes the sword cuts both
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ways.
If we often even chastise otherpeople for their sin, then it
will cut against us as well.
The wielder of the word of Godneeds to be quite careful with
it because it does cut bothways.
The good news is that the HolySpirit is the expert surgeon and
he will do surgery with hissharp scalpel.
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It says here, God layseverything bare.
So we should be open and honestand confess to him.
That's the good thing about theword of God and about our Lord
is that we can be completelyopen and honest before him.
He knows everything anyway.
So why are we trying to hide?
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Since God already knows usbetter than we know ourselves,
we should be humble and confessourselves before him and be
honest with him.
Oftentimes we don't even admitthe truth to ourselves, yet,
here it says that God knows thethoughts and intentions of our
heart.
You know, the psychologist andthe psychiatrist make a pretty
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good living of trying to figureout what are the thoughts and
intentions of a heart.
Oftentimes I have a suspicionthat they really don't learn too
much about what's down in therebecause the word of God tells us
that the heart is desperatelywicked.
Who can know it?
Well, the one that can know itis the Lord God, because he lays
everything bare.
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He knows us better than we knowourselves.
We don't even know our ownthoughts and intentions.
We don't know what motivatesourselves, yet the word of God
does.
He is the one that can help us.
If a person needs surgery, theygo to a surgeon.
If a person needs surgery ontheir soul, they need to go to
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the word of God, because that isthe path forward for improving
your soul.
A patient merely needs to submitto the surgeon in order to for
the surgeon to do his work andto heal them.
When we are sick in our soul,all we have to do is submit to
the Lord God and submit to theWord of God, and it will do its
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work on us.
Verse 14 really starts anothersection of the book, another
major section.
It says, Therefore, since wehave a great high priest who has
passed through the heavens,Jesus the Son of God, let us
hold fast our confession.
So here it says Jesus is notmerely a high priest, but he
says he is a great high priest.
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The first part of Hebrews, Jesusis presented as great in his
person.
Now Hebrews is presenting Jesusas great in his position.
Jesus is superior in every way.
Steve, what can we know aboutthis high priest?
What is this section telling usabout Jesus being our priest?
SPEAKER_00 (16:06):
As we mentioned in the first chapter, it depicts
Jesus as sitting at the righthand of the one on high.
We talked at that time in thosesessions that the priests did
not sit, that they were ones whowere always working.
There were no chairs in thetabernacle or the temple, and
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that the high priest would onlygo back into the Holy of Holies
once a year on behalf of all thepeople.
With Jesus, we have somebody whohas is seated at the right hand.
The work is finished.
There's nothing else that he hasleft to do.
A second thing is he's presentwith God the Father all the
time.
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So he's not going behind theveil just one time a year.
He's there to advocate for usalways.
That's what he's getting at inverse 14.
He's a great high priest who haspassed through the heavens, the
Son of God.
He says, Let's hold fast to ourconfession.
He then goes on to say that thishigh priest, Jesus, can
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sympathize with our weaknessesbecause he's been tempted in all
things.
Glenn, what that brings to mymind is 1 John 2.16, that says,
For all that is in the world,the lust of the flesh, the lust
of the eyes, and the boastfulpride of life is not from the
Father, but is from the world.
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I'm thinking back to when Jesuswas tempted in his forty days of
separation.
At the end of it, Satan came tohim and he said, After 40 days
of fasting, turn these rocksinto bread.
That would have been the lust ofthe flesh.
Jesus would have been veryhungry in his fully manned
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state.
And Jesus resisted that.
And then the Satan took him andsaid, Bow yourself to me, and I
will give you all these kingdomsof the world.
Jesus resisted that.
That would have been atemptation of the lust of the
eyes in order to be king of allthe nations.
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But of course, Jesus is going tobe king of all the nations in
the future.
It wasn't his time to be king ofall the nations.
And finally, Satan took him upto the pinnacle of the temple
and said, Throw yourself off,and the angels will come and
protect you.
Show who you are, becausethey'll protect you because your
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time is not yet come.
Jesus resisted that, and thatwould have been the pride of
life.
He could have showed off toSatan and proved to him who he
was, but he resisted that.
That's what I think of, Glenn,whenever the author is talking
about that Jesus has beentempted in all ways of us.
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All sin, I think, can be boileddown to this lust of the eyes,
lust of the flesh, and the prideof life.
I think the author is telling usJesus has been tempted in those
ways, therefore he knows how wefeel, and he can be a great
advocate for us.
He can be a high priest in theheavenly heavens in front of God
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the Father because he has beentempted in those ways as well.
SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
We've already seen in this book of Hebrews that
Jesus is mentioned to be ourhigh priest.
Here in 414, it really starts asection that lasts for another
three or four chapters where itgoes into quite a bit of detail
about the high priest beingJesus.
Before we really get into that,we need to grasp the importance
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and significance of it.
I think our perception ofmodern-day religions that have
priests are confusing and evenmessing up our understanding of
Hebrews because you see, in theOld Testament, priest was out of
the congregation that wassupposed to represent the
congregation to God.
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The priest would go into thetemple where God's spirit was,
his glory was in the temple, andthe priest would come out of the
congregation and go representthe people to God.
The speaking for God to thepeople was a different job.
That was the job of the prophet.
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If you remember when we wentthrough Ezekiel, oftentimes
Ezekiel as a prophet would speakfor God.
He would act out as if he wereGod.
He would go through activitiesas if he were God.
So the job of the prophet was totake God's word and represent
God to the people.
The job of a priest was just theopposite.
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He was to represent the peoplebefore God.
When it says here, therefore,since we have a great high
priest, namely Jesus, Jesus isthe one who would go and
represent us before God.
That's the picture here.
We have a great high priest.
The first question we have inthe Old Testament, which tribe
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of Israel did the priest comefrom?
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
They came from the tribe of Levi or Levi, which was
the tribe that Moses and Aaroncame from.
They were the ones that were setapart in order to do the
priestly activities.
They were even set apart thatwhen there were divisions into
the land, they didn't have anydivision on their own.
There were pockets that theywere put into throughout the
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land so that they could servethe people, but their main
purpose was to operate in thetemple.
And the high priest was to comefrom the line of Aaron himself.
Those were the ones who were toserve as high priest.
So they were set apart andseparated in order to be this
representation for the people toGod.
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By contrast, which tribe didJesus come from?
Jesus came from the tribe ofJudah.
And that's the one that he camefrom.
And there were prophecies thatthe Messiah would come from the
tribe of Judah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
In the Old Testament, it was quite clear to
be a priest, you had to be thetribe of Levi, son of Aaron.
Jesus was not from that tribe.
He was from Judah.
As the gospels demonstrate, hewas in the kingly line, and the
kings were prevented from beinga priest.
That presents a question or abit of a conundrum.
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How could Jesus be our greathigh priest when he was from the
wrong tribe?
We're going to see this book ofHebrews is going to explain to
us in future chapters.
Jesus was a great high priest,but he was not from the Aaronic
priesthood from Aaron.
He was from a different order.
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He was from a special class ofpriests, namely from the order
of Melchizedek.
And we'll get into that when thetext explains it here coming up
in the future chapters.
We're told here in this sectionthat Jesus, our high priest,
passed through the heavens, isthe language that says Jesus
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pre-existed.
He existed prior to when hebecame a man, when he became a
human.
Jesus is God, therefore he iseternal and passed through the
heavens to lower himself to ourlevel.
Our high priest was better thanthe high priest that was in all
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of the years of the Jewishreligion, simply because the
regular high priest could neverbe said to have gone through the
heavens.
Our high priest can.
He is a better high priest.
Every step along the way, Jesusis presented as better.
He is a better than the angels.
He is better than any createdbeing.
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Here, he is our great highpriest that has passed through
the heavens.
Steve, how worthy is Jesus?
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
Oh, he's worthy of everything.
We've talked about that in ourother sessions.
That Jesus is a prophet, priest,and king.
That's why the author ispresenting him as being above
the angels, above Moses.
Now getting into a little bitmore detail of being above the
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Levitical priesthood.
He's presenting this case tothese believers, Hebrew
believers, stay on course andstay fast with your confession,
because you have chosen theright way.
Here's the reasons why you havechosen the right way.
Jesus Christ, Jesus, theMessiah, is above all.
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
At the end of verse 14, it tells us, therefore,
because Jesus is our highpriest, which means he's going
to represent us before theFather, we have a great high
priest that is representing usbefore the Father.
Therefore, let us hold fast ourconfession.
Steve, why should we hold fastto our testimony, our
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confession, our belief aboutJesus Christ?
What it's saying here is thisconfession is really like a
doctrinal confession.
What has he been saying for allthese chapters now in the book?
Who is Jesus Christ?
Our confession is, of course, iswho is Jesus?
Why is he here telling us tohold fast to our confession?
SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
I think it's because if they were to go back under
Judaism, they would in a way berecanting the confession.
Now, what was the confession?
The confession was that Jesuswas the Messiah.
In the Old Testament prophets,it gave all of these prophecies
of the Messiah was going to be aking, was going to be a
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conqueror, was going to be aprotector and ruler of all the
nations, all of these things,and that they have put their
faith and trust in him as theMessiah, and that through that
they have salvation.
They have the promise of eternallife.
And that hope is made fastbecause of his resurrection.
If they go back under Judaism,in a way, they are not really
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renouncing the confession, butthey're expressing maybe doubt
in the confession.
They're giving in to thepressure of the Judaizers of who
they believe that Jesus Christis and who he actually is.
I think in our case, whenever wego back and start living a
carnal life, meaning a worldlylife, then we are distancing
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ourselves from our confession ofour belief and trust in Jesus
Christ.
I think the author here is justencouraging them, hold fast to
this confession that you havemade.
This is the one that's going toget you through.
This is the one that's going togive you the rest that God has
promised.
Don't let go of that confession.
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Hold fast to it.
That's what's going to get youthrough.
SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
Verse 15 here says, For we do not have a high priest
who cannot sympathize with ourweaknesses, but one who has been
tempted in all things as we are,yet without sin.
The high priest in the OldTestament had to cleanse himself
from his own sins before hecould then go in and represent
the people before God.
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Here, our high priest, Jesus,what has he been saying so far
in the book?
He is God, he is man, he is abetter than the angels, he is
better than Moses, he is able toprovide more than Joshua, he is
our great high priest.
But it says not only all thosethings, but now he can
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sympathize with our weaknesses.
Think of it.
He's close to us, close as ourown skin, because he was human,
just like you and just like me.
Our high priest that goes intothe temple to plead our case
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before the Father is a highpriest that has experienced life
like we had.
He was tempted in all things weare, yet he did not fail.
He withheld the pressure oftemptation, but he never gave
in.
Steve, what comfort does it giveus to know that Jesus was
tempted in all things we are,yet without sin?
SPEAKER_00 (28:40):
I think that it's a glorious thing for us to take
comfort in and rest, if I canuse that word, that the creator
of everything, the universe, theearth, and the creator of
ourselves took on the form of ahuman being so that he could
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know firsthand the things thatwe go through.
There's that old story of a manthat knew that there was going
to be a field that was going tobe flooded.
And there had been some antsthat he had been following
because he was interested ininsects.
He knew this field was going tobe flooded.
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With the flooding of the field,the ants were going to get wiped
out.
He thought to himself, if therewas only some way that I could
go and communicate to thoseants, let them know that this
danger was coming so that theymight move their colony
somewhere else to higher groundto seek safety from the coming
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flood.
If there was only some way thatmaybe possibly I could become an
ant and go there myself andcommunicate to them.
Now that's a simple story, butit's one that connects with what
actually happened.
Jesus Christ fully humiliated.
Human, fully God, came himselfso that he might die and pay for
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the penalty of our sin.
And it's through his death,burial, and resurrection is that
we have the promise of eternallife.
He came to communicate to hiscreation, and we have that
communication through this wordof God that we just spoke about
that is sharper than anytwo-edged sword.
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Today is the day of salvation,as we talked about in our last
session.
If you're hearing this and thetwo-edged sword of God's word is
convicting you, place yourbelief and trust in Jesus Christ
today, and you might havesalvation.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
We have something in Christianity that no other
religion on earth has, and thatis the person of Jesus Christ
that knows us and hasexperienced humanity.
The God of the universe washuman and he knows all things
like we do, yet he was withoutsin.
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There's no issue that we wouldhave that Jesus is not
intimately familiar with becausehe experienced it.
It's comforting to know thatJesus can identify with our
human condition.
He lived as a human, heexperienced all the human
tragedies and even more than us.
He knows us because he became aman.
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Jesus is without sin.
He is the pure one, the cleanone, the human that is unstained
by sin.
He felt the full pull and drawand pressure of temptation, but
he never gave in.
He is the one that is our highpriest that will go represent us
before the Father and plead ourcase before him.
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He is fully human, fullytempted, but pure, clean, and
without sin.
How glorious is our Lord Jesus!Because of that, we can draw
near to the throne of grace.
And Steve, I just love the waywe can worship our Lord Jesus.
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
Yeah, isn't it great that we can go before the throne
of God because we have such agreat advocate?
SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
And we're going to learn more about that next time
because there's a significanceto being able to go into the
throne room, the very throneroom of God, and we'll reason
through that next time onreasoning through the Bible.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
Thank you so much for watching and listening.
And always, may God bless you.
Hello and welcome to Reasoning Through the Bible.
My name's Glenn.
I'm here with Steve.
We have a ministry where we goverse by verse through the Word
of God, often phrase by phrase,sentence by sentence.
We believe that if you deal withall of the text, then all of the
topical issues will come up.
You should go to our website,reasoningthruthebible.com.
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Everything we do there isavailable to you.
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guides.
We are now currently goingthrough Hebrews.
So if you have your copy of theBible, open it to Hebrews
chapter 4.
A little bit of review before weget started.
The book of Hebrews, of course,is written to Jewish Christians
that have decided to followChrist.
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The writer here is intimatelyfamiliar with Jewish background.
He quotes the Old Testamentextensively.
In the first chapter, he taughtthat Jesus was God, and then he
also taught that Jesus was man.
As such, he experienced allthings just as we are.
He explains how Jesus is better.
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He is a better sacrifice.
He is better than the Mosaiclaw.
He is superior to the angels.
So we've been learning a greatdeal of theology about the
person and the being of JesusChrist.
Not only who he is and his beingis far above all the created
world, but he is also superiorin his position as high priest,
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as we're going to see today andthroughout the book.
Steve, it's just a wonderfulsection.
What else can we know aboutthese Jewish believers here that
this book was written to?
SPEAKER_00 (02:21):
That's what we should always keep in the
forefront as we go through here.
There's so much things inHebrews that we can make
application to our lives today,and we'll continue to do that as
we go through the book.
But let's keep in mind that asyou stated, these are Jewish
believers.
As we established in ouroverview, they were probably
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living somewhere in theJudea-Samaria area.
They're close to the city ofJerusalem and the temple.
We know that there ispersecution of these Jewish
believers taking place throughthe story of Saul.
We see that in Acts of what he'sdoing, and he often refers to it
as well as to him that was outpersecuting these.
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And in fact, it says that whenhe first started his ministry,
that there were Jewish believersthat were kind of skeptical of
him because he had such areputation of going out and
persecuting the newly Jewishbelievers.
This is what the author isaddressing here, in that he's
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doing just what you've talkedabout.
Jesus is above everything, abovethe angels, above Moses.
He's going to talk here in alittle bit about Jesus being
above the Levitical priesthoodsystem.
When we get into chapter 10,we'll see a little bit more of
this reason of persecution.
But what's the easiest way torelieve the persecution from the
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Jewish leadership?
Well, it's to go back underJudaism, to go back and start
following the law and do all ofthe sacrifices and rules and of
the law in order to relieve thispressure.
That's what the thing we shouldkeep in mind as we go through
here.
The author is writing to them inencouragement by saying that
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Jesus is better than all ofthese areas of Judaism, that
they have selected and chosenthe right way to go, and that
they should stay on that pathand not go back under Judaism.
He's been using the example ofthe Jewish people, Israelites at
Kadesh Barnia, as far as goinginto the land, that they
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faltered and fell short, andthey didn't stay true in belief
that God was going to get theminto the promised land and
protect them.
And because of that, thatgeneration was not able to go
into the promised land.
They fell short.
So the author is encouragingthese believers, don't make that
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same sort of a decision.
Stay with Jesus Christ.
The way you have chosen is thecorrect way.
Don't falter, keep going, andyou'll be able to enter into
this rest that he's been talkingabout of the life of faith.
And then he just got throughtalking at the end of our last
session, Glenn, of this Sabbathrest.
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And we went into quite detail onthat.
That this is something that'sgoing to happen in the future
for all of us who are believers.
That's the background that wewant to keep in mind as we go
through here and makeapplication to our lives today
of what this author isaddressing to these Jewish
believers.
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
The last part of chapter three and the first part
of chapter four talkedextensively cautioning these
Hebrew believers about don'tmiss this opportunity for rest.
The reason is if you go backinto Judaism to keeping commands
and doing deeds in order toprove yourself righteous, then
therefore you won't have anyrest.
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There's no rest in law keeping.
There is rest in Christ.
That was the message.
The question then before us thatnaturally arises is how?
It's one thing to say, well,take advantage of this rest.
It's something else entirely tosay, How do I enjoy Christ?
How in my weak flesh am I torest in Christ?
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Well, the next section tells ushow it's through the Word of
God.
Steve, can you start at Hebrewschapter 4, starting at verse 12
and going to verse 16?
SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
For the word of God is living and active, and
sharper than any two-edgedsword, and piercing as far as
the division of soul and spirit,of both joints and marrow, and
able to judge the thoughts andintentions of the heart, and
there is no creature hidden fromhis sight, but all things are
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open and laid bare to the eyesof him with whom we have to do.
Therefore, since we have a greathigh priest who has passed
through the heavens, Jesus, theSon of God, let us hold fast our
confession, for we do not have ahigh priest who cannot
sympathize with our weaknesses,but one who has been tempted in
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all things as we are, yetwithout sin.
Therefore, let us draw near withconfidence to the throne of
grace, so that we may receivemercy and find grace to help in
time of need.
SPEAKER_01 (07:29):
Verse 12 talks about the Word of God.
The question is, how powerful isthe Word of God?
What is it capable of doing inour lives?
SPEAKER_00 (07:38):
Well, the first thing to realize here is that
it's number one, living.
The second thing is it's active.
That means that it is somethingthat is not dormant.
It's not something that isinert.
The word of God is somethingthat will take action and
conviction on a person's life.
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Then there's some illustrationsthat he gives here, sharper than
any two-edged sword, as he talksabout the piercing of the
division of the soul and bothjoints and marrow.
I think we get a picture of asword that can pierce through
any type of protection that awarrior might have, or through
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any type of a shield that somewarrior might put up.
He's saying that the word of Godcan pierce through any type of
defenses that we might put up inorder to avoid what the word of
God is convicting us of.
I think that's one thing to keepin mind.
The word of God is active andit's alive, and it's something
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that will pierce into a person'ssoul and spirit and bring up to
light the things that he isdoing against God, convicting
that man of knowing what I needto do is I need to trust in the
Lord Jesus Christ who has paidthe death penalty for my sins.
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I can believe and trust in him.
SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
Verse 12 says, the word of God is alive, it's
living, and it will cut us tothe core.
I'm reminded of a surgeon with avery sharp scalpel, and a
skilled surgeon will open youup, lay you bare, go inside to
your core and do work that needsto be done.
He'll take out things that needto be removed.
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He will open you up and do whatneeds to be done because he is a
skilled surgeon with a sharpscalpel.
That is the word of God.
The Holy Spirit can take theword of God and do surgery on
your soul.
He will cut you to your core.
It also tells us here that it ispowerful enough to separate
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things that we cannot separate.
He gives three or four exampleshere.
He says, division of soul andspirit, joints and marrow, and
able to discern the thoughts andintentions of the heart.
Now, this passage here is oftenused to make a hard distinction
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between human soul and spirit.
I've even heard some Bibleteachers make a whole little
area of theology around humanshaving both a soul and a spirit.
However, this passage tends tosuggest that these are
inseparable, that we cannotdistinguish or separate between
them.
For example, the discerningbetween joints and marrow, the
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word there is really the joiningand the marrow.
It's impossible to take a knifeor a sword and have the marrow
in one hand and the joint or thejoining in the other.
No, the marrow makes up thejoint.
The thoughts and intentions, youreally can't have one without
the other.
You can't have intention withouta thought, and you can't really
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have a thought about somethingwithout having an intention.
To separate things that areinseparable is what it's saying.
So it would seem that soul andspirit cannot be separated
either.
Now, Steve, there's a verse inThessalonians, is there not that
would seem to indicate some moreinformation on this?
SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
Yeah, we have a verse in 1 Thessalonians chapter
5, verse 23, that says, Now maythe God of peace himself
sanctify you entirely, and mayyour spirit and soul and body be
preserved complete without blameat the coming of our Lord Jesus
Christ.
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Through that cross-reference, itseems like there is a division
of at least a body, soul, andspirit.
SPEAKER_01 (11:44):
Interesting fact to consider.
This passage, I think, would beone of the passages that would
lead to draw conclusions fromthat.
Nevertheless, the main point ofthis section, if we move on, if
we look at specifically verses12 and 13, it talks about how
much God knows.
Steve, what does it say there inthose two verses, 12 and 13,
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about how much God knows?
SPEAKER_00 (12:06):
It says there's no creature that is hidden from his
sight, that all things are laidbare to his eyes.
That's a very clear picture thatyou're not going to be able to
hide any type of ungodly acts orsinful acts from God, that he's
going to know everything that wedo.
Now, that's also going toinclude godly things that we do.
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We can take rest in knowing thatGod can see everything and knows
everything.
There's nothing that even saysthere's no creature.
So it's not just human beings,but it's everything.
He has oversight and wisdom andknowledge about everything, all
of creation itself, of what'sgoing on.
SPEAKER_01 (12:52):
This analogy here, this uh language here, the word
of God is living and active andsharper than a two-edged sword.
A two-edged sword cuts bothways.
Oftentimes we find out that whenwe try to learn the word of God
so that we can advise otherpeople or maybe teach other
people or help other people,oftentimes the sword cuts both
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ways.
If we often even chastise otherpeople for their sin, then it
will cut against us as well.
The wielder of the word of Godneeds to be quite careful with
it because it does cut bothways.
The good news is that the HolySpirit is the expert surgeon and
he will do surgery with hissharp scalpel.
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It says here, God layseverything bare.
So we should be open and honestand confess to him.
That's the good thing about theword of God and about our Lord
is that we can be completelyopen and honest before him.
He knows everything anyway.
So why are we trying to hide?
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Since God already knows usbetter than we know ourselves,
we should be humble and confessourselves before him and be
honest with him.
Oftentimes we don't even admitthe truth to ourselves, yet,
here it says that God knows thethoughts and intentions of our
heart.
You know, the psychologist andthe psychiatrist make a pretty
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good living of trying to figureout what are the thoughts and
intentions of a heart.
Oftentimes I have a suspicionthat they really don't learn too
much about what's down in therebecause the word of God tells us
that the heart is desperatelywicked.
Who can know it?
Well, the one that can know itis the Lord God, because he lays
everything bare.
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He knows us better than we knowourselves.
We don't even know our ownthoughts and intentions.
We don't know what motivatesourselves, yet the word of God
does.
He is the one that can help us.
If a person needs surgery, theygo to a surgeon.
If a person needs surgery ontheir soul, they need to go to
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the word of God, because that isthe path forward for improving
your soul.
A patient merely needs to submitto the surgeon in order to for
the surgeon to do his work andto heal them.
When we are sick in our soul,all we have to do is submit to
the Lord God and submit to theWord of God, and it will do its
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work on us.
Verse 14 really starts anothersection of the book, another
major section.
It says, Therefore, since wehave a great high priest who has
passed through the heavens,Jesus the Son of God, let us
hold fast our confession.
So here it says Jesus is notmerely a high priest, but he
says he is a great high priest.
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The first part of Hebrews, Jesusis presented as great in his
person.
Now Hebrews is presenting Jesusas great in his position.
Jesus is superior in every way.
Steve, what can we know aboutthis high priest?
What is this section telling usabout Jesus being our priest?
SPEAKER_00 (16:06):
As we mentioned in the first chapter, it depicts
Jesus as sitting at the righthand of the one on high.
We talked at that time in thosesessions that the priests did
not sit, that they were ones whowere always working.
There were no chairs in thetabernacle or the temple, and
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that the high priest would onlygo back into the Holy of Holies
once a year on behalf of all thepeople.
With Jesus, we have somebody whohas is seated at the right hand.
The work is finished.
There's nothing else that he hasleft to do.
A second thing is he's presentwith God the Father all the
time.
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So he's not going behind theveil just one time a year.
He's there to advocate for usalways.
That's what he's getting at inverse 14.
He's a great high priest who haspassed through the heavens, the
Son of God.
He says, Let's hold fast to ourconfession.
He then goes on to say that thishigh priest, Jesus, can
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sympathize with our weaknessesbecause he's been tempted in all
things.
Glenn, what that brings to mymind is 1 John 2.16, that says,
For all that is in the world,the lust of the flesh, the lust
of the eyes, and the boastfulpride of life is not from the
Father, but is from the world.
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I'm thinking back to when Jesuswas tempted in his forty days of
separation.
At the end of it, Satan came tohim and he said, After 40 days
of fasting, turn these rocksinto bread.
That would have been the lust ofthe flesh.
Jesus would have been veryhungry in his fully manned
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state.
And Jesus resisted that.
And then the Satan took him andsaid, Bow yourself to me, and I
will give you all these kingdomsof the world.
Jesus resisted that.
That would have been atemptation of the lust of the
eyes in order to be king of allthe nations.
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But of course, Jesus is going tobe king of all the nations in
the future.
It wasn't his time to be king ofall the nations.
And finally, Satan took him upto the pinnacle of the temple
and said, Throw yourself off,and the angels will come and
protect you.
Show who you are, becausethey'll protect you because your
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time is not yet come.
Jesus resisted that, and thatwould have been the pride of
life.
He could have showed off toSatan and proved to him who he
was, but he resisted that.
That's what I think of, Glenn,whenever the author is talking
about that Jesus has beentempted in all ways of us.
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All sin, I think, can be boileddown to this lust of the eyes,
lust of the flesh, and the prideof life.
I think the author is telling usJesus has been tempted in those
ways, therefore he knows how wefeel, and he can be a great
advocate for us.
He can be a high priest in theheavenly heavens in front of God
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the Father because he has beentempted in those ways as well.
SPEAKER_01 (19:26):
We've already seen in this book of Hebrews that
Jesus is mentioned to be ourhigh priest.
Here in 414, it really starts asection that lasts for another
three or four chapters where itgoes into quite a bit of detail
about the high priest beingJesus.
Before we really get into that,we need to grasp the importance
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and significance of it.
I think our perception ofmodern-day religions that have
priests are confusing and evenmessing up our understanding of
Hebrews because you see, in theOld Testament, priest was out of
the congregation that wassupposed to represent the
congregation to God.
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The priest would go into thetemple where God's spirit was,
his glory was in the temple, andthe priest would come out of the
congregation and go representthe people to God.
The speaking for God to thepeople was a different job.
That was the job of the prophet.
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If you remember when we wentthrough Ezekiel, oftentimes
Ezekiel as a prophet would speakfor God.
He would act out as if he wereGod.
He would go through activitiesas if he were God.
So the job of the prophet was totake God's word and represent
God to the people.
The job of a priest was just theopposite.
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He was to represent the peoplebefore God.
When it says here, therefore,since we have a great high
priest, namely Jesus, Jesus isthe one who would go and
represent us before God.
That's the picture here.
We have a great high priest.
The first question we have inthe Old Testament, which tribe
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of Israel did the priest comefrom?
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
They came from the tribe of Levi or Levi, which was
the tribe that Moses and Aaroncame from.
They were the ones that were setapart in order to do the
priestly activities.
They were even set apart thatwhen there were divisions into
the land, they didn't have anydivision on their own.
There were pockets that theywere put into throughout the
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land so that they could servethe people, but their main
purpose was to operate in thetemple.
And the high priest was to comefrom the line of Aaron himself.
Those were the ones who were toserve as high priest.
So they were set apart andseparated in order to be this
representation for the people toGod.
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By contrast, which tribe didJesus come from?
Jesus came from the tribe ofJudah.
And that's the one that he camefrom.
And there were prophecies thatthe Messiah would come from the
tribe of Judah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
In the Old Testament, it was quite clear to
be a priest, you had to be thetribe of Levi, son of Aaron.
Jesus was not from that tribe.
He was from Judah.
As the gospels demonstrate, hewas in the kingly line, and the
kings were prevented from beinga priest.
That presents a question or abit of a conundrum.
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How could Jesus be our greathigh priest when he was from the
wrong tribe?
We're going to see this book ofHebrews is going to explain to
us in future chapters.
Jesus was a great high priest,but he was not from the Aaronic
priesthood from Aaron.
He was from a different order.
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He was from a special class ofpriests, namely from the order
of Melchizedek.
And we'll get into that when thetext explains it here coming up
in the future chapters.
We're told here in this sectionthat Jesus, our high priest,
passed through the heavens, isthe language that says Jesus
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pre-existed.
He existed prior to when hebecame a man, when he became a
human.
Jesus is God, therefore he iseternal and passed through the
heavens to lower himself to ourlevel.
Our high priest was better thanthe high priest that was in all
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of the years of the Jewishreligion, simply because the
regular high priest could neverbe said to have gone through the
heavens.
Our high priest can.
He is a better high priest.
Every step along the way, Jesusis presented as better.
He is a better than the angels.
He is better than any createdbeing.
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Here, he is our great highpriest that has passed through
the heavens.
Steve, how worthy is Jesus?
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
Oh, he's worthy of everything.
We've talked about that in ourother sessions.
That Jesus is a prophet, priest,and king.
That's why the author ispresenting him as being above
the angels, above Moses.
Now getting into a little bitmore detail of being above the
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Levitical priesthood.
He's presenting this case tothese believers, Hebrew
believers, stay on course andstay fast with your confession,
because you have chosen theright way.
Here's the reasons why you havechosen the right way.
Jesus Christ, Jesus, theMessiah, is above all.
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
At the end of verse 14, it tells us, therefore,
because Jesus is our highpriest, which means he's going
to represent us before theFather, we have a great high
priest that is representing usbefore the Father.
Therefore, let us hold fast ourconfession.
Steve, why should we hold fastto our testimony, our
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confession, our belief aboutJesus Christ?
What it's saying here is thisconfession is really like a
doctrinal confession.
What has he been saying for allthese chapters now in the book?
Who is Jesus Christ?
Our confession is, of course, iswho is Jesus?
Why is he here telling us tohold fast to our confession?
SPEAKER_00 (25:36):
I think it's because if they were to go back under
Judaism, they would in a way berecanting the confession.
Now, what was the confession?
The confession was that Jesuswas the Messiah.
In the Old Testament prophets,it gave all of these prophecies
of the Messiah was going to be aking, was going to be a
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conqueror, was going to be aprotector and ruler of all the
nations, all of these things,and that they have put their
faith and trust in him as theMessiah, and that through that
they have salvation.
They have the promise of eternallife.
And that hope is made fastbecause of his resurrection.
If they go back under Judaism,in a way, they are not really
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renouncing the confession, butthey're expressing maybe doubt
in the confession.
They're giving in to thepressure of the Judaizers of who
they believe that Jesus Christis and who he actually is.
I think in our case, whenever wego back and start living a
carnal life, meaning a worldlylife, then we are distancing
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ourselves from our confession ofour belief and trust in Jesus
Christ.
I think the author here is justencouraging them, hold fast to
this confession that you havemade.
This is the one that's going toget you through.
This is the one that's going togive you the rest that God has
promised.
Don't let go of that confession.
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Hold fast to it.
That's what's going to get youthrough.
SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
Verse 15 here says, For we do not have a high priest
who cannot sympathize with ourweaknesses, but one who has been
tempted in all things as we are,yet without sin.
The high priest in the OldTestament had to cleanse himself
from his own sins before hecould then go in and represent
the people before God.
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Here, our high priest, Jesus,what has he been saying so far
in the book?
He is God, he is man, he is abetter than the angels, he is
better than Moses, he is able toprovide more than Joshua, he is
our great high priest.
But it says not only all thosethings, but now he can
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sympathize with our weaknesses.
Think of it.
He's close to us, close as ourown skin, because he was human,
just like you and just like me.
Our high priest that goes intothe temple to plead our case
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before the Father is a highpriest that has experienced life
like we had.
He was tempted in all things weare, yet he did not fail.
He withheld the pressure oftemptation, but he never gave
in.
Steve, what comfort does it giveus to know that Jesus was
tempted in all things we are,yet without sin?
SPEAKER_00 (28:40):
I think that it's a glorious thing for us to take
comfort in and rest, if I canuse that word, that the creator
of everything, the universe, theearth, and the creator of
ourselves took on the form of ahuman being so that he could
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know firsthand the things thatwe go through.
There's that old story of a manthat knew that there was going
to be a field that was going tobe flooded.
And there had been some antsthat he had been following
because he was interested ininsects.
He knew this field was going tobe flooded.
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With the flooding of the field,the ants were going to get wiped
out.
He thought to himself, if therewas only some way that I could
go and communicate to thoseants, let them know that this
danger was coming so that theymight move their colony
somewhere else to higher groundto seek safety from the coming
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flood.
If there was only some way thatmaybe possibly I could become an
ant and go there myself andcommunicate to them.
Now that's a simple story, butit's one that connects with what
actually happened.
Jesus Christ fully humiliated.
Human, fully God, came himselfso that he might die and pay for
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the penalty of our sin.
And it's through his death,burial, and resurrection is that
we have the promise of eternallife.
He came to communicate to hiscreation, and we have that
communication through this wordof God that we just spoke about
that is sharper than anytwo-edged sword.
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Today is the day of salvation,as we talked about in our last
session.
If you're hearing this and thetwo-edged sword of God's word is
convicting you, place yourbelief and trust in Jesus Christ
today, and you might havesalvation.
SPEAKER_01 (30:44):
We have something in Christianity that no other
religion on earth has, and thatis the person of Jesus Christ
that knows us and hasexperienced humanity.
The God of the universe washuman and he knows all things
like we do, yet he was withoutsin.
(31:05):
There's no issue that we wouldhave that Jesus is not
intimately familiar with becausehe experienced it.
It's comforting to know thatJesus can identify with our
human condition.
He lived as a human, heexperienced all the human
tragedies and even more than us.
He knows us because he became aman.
(31:28):
Jesus is without sin.
He is the pure one, the cleanone, the human that is unstained
by sin.
He felt the full pull and drawand pressure of temptation, but
he never gave in.
He is the one that is our highpriest that will go represent us
before the Father and plead ourcase before him.
(31:51):
He is fully human, fullytempted, but pure, clean, and
without sin.
How glorious is our Lord Jesus!Because of that, we can draw
near to the throne of grace.
And Steve, I just love the waywe can worship our Lord Jesus.
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
Yeah, isn't it great that we can go before the throne
of God because we have such agreat advocate?
SPEAKER_01 (32:14):
And we're going to learn more about that next time
because there's a significanceto being able to go into the
throne room, the very throneroom of God, and we'll reason
through that next time onreasoning through the Bible.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
Thank you so much for watching and listening.
And always, may God bless you.
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