August 18, 2023 • 56 mins
Ready for a chilling journey into the macabre world of cult classic slashers? Don your bravest face and step into the sinister shadows of revered classics like Jeepers Creepers. We also shine our floodlight on the lesser known, but equally spine-tingling, Wrong Turn and the 1993 cult hit, Leprechaun.
The episode thickens as we unearth the controversial backstory of Jeepers Creepers' director, Victor Salva. From his debut movie Something in the Basement to his involvement with Disney, despite his dreadful crimes, we lay bare the disturbing realities hiding behind the silver screen. Ever found yourself wrestling with the moral dilemma of separating the art from the artist? Well, strap in as we grapple with this complex issue, discussing the influence of figures like Francis Ford Coppola on Salva's career and the role of power in protecting such individuals.
Our cinematic journey doesn't end there! We'll also be pulling back the curtain on Zack Snyder's filmography, scrutinizing his hits and misses (37:31). As we wrap up, we let you in on the buzz surrounding the upcoming movie Rebel Moon, starring Anthony Hopkins. So, film buffs and casual listeners alike, brace yourselves for an episode that promises a rollercoaster of thrills, chills, and unnerving revelations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ryan's made those scores and then give a reading
of our own and then give anaverage.
This intro song, which I juststopped, was actually made by
our very own Slick Zeclenn andthat shit's fire, Thank you.
So that's.
It's going to be the intromoving forward, no matter what,
for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Very ghetto.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, um.
So in today's episode we'reactually going to talk about a
fucking cult classic Jeeperscreep.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And also a corrupted cult, classic.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Corrupted, you know before we decided to do this
movie, before we found out thatthe director, Victor Salva, was
a fucking full fledged Pito.
It just, it just happened to bethat it came upon our lap like
that.
We actually didn't know untilwe watched the movies.
That was the worst part.
I fucking watched thosehorrible ass movies.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And when doing research I found out this guy,
the third one and the fourth oneare like, they're like strong
attenders of worst movies I'veever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, you're absolutely right.
And you know I think this wasthe last new slasher, because
all the slashers kind of havelike history.
You know fucking Freddy Krueger, friday 13th, jason Michael
with Halloween's scream, youknow Ghost Face and scream, all
those.
They have long history, but I,you know this one was born in
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the 2000s.
It was the last slasher thatwas really created.
Oh, it's not for good, texas.
Yeah, I'm going to say that Lastyear Uh huh, but all that is
much older than than Jeepers.
Creepers, you're just creepers,probably the newest of the
slasher.
I don't think any new slasher'sare made anymore, because it's
not good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's, it's, it's easy .
It's a really lazy format.
Typically, you know, womanprotagonist, who you need to be
charismatic and kind of likecomedy kind of slashers
everybody's run for your lives.
People are making all themistakes that you would never
want to make yourself, likerunning upstairs instead of out
through the front, or going togo down into the tunnel by
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themselves, going to thebasement by themselves, that's
up to sure.
That's kind of what makesslasher's fun that they made
these stupid decisions and wewatched them laugh.
Is leprechaun a slasher?
Is leprechaun a slasher?
Sure, yeah, yeah, leprechaun.
Leprechaun on the hood, hellyeah, ilzner slasher's older,
old too, I think.
Definitely less popular.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, that wouldn't the first one come out.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The first leprechaun.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The first leprechaun came out in 1993.
Oh wow, With our boy WarwickDavis and Jennifer Aniston
Somehow I'm completely forgotabout that.
And there are a lot, there area lot of leprechauns.
The only one I really rememberthose leprechaun in the hood,
man Leprechaun on the hood waswas too good.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Actually was a.
What was that movie calledWrong Turn that came out early
2000s, right, is that kind ofslasher?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, I think that's more of like a monster movie.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Really the guys are monsters, or?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
wrong turn, weren't there monsters in wrong turn.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I mean they're deformed human beings, they're
like monsters.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I'd say that's more like a monster.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, because they did slash, they did have machetes
and shit.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, yeah, every, every, you know most monsters.
I don't know if it'stechnically a slasher, let's see
what the I mean, they use gunstoo.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I don't know like what it categorized as slasher.
I don't know if you it is aslasher.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It is a slasher according to the Internet.
Wrong turn is it's only there2003 slasher film.
You know I disagree, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't.
I don't watch slasher filmslike that, so I don't know what
categorized as slasher.
I don't know if they only needa knife throughout the whole
movie to be kind of slash it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, yeah, nah, I feel like, like I said, slasher
is like just that movie.
It's kind of lazy A lot ofchase scenes.
Not chase scenes, you know,teenagers typically, I feel like
, or young adults.
Should I say definitely femaleprotagonist.
It's the only way a lot ofpeople care.
Apparently that seems to be thetheme for a lot of the movies.
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The slasher is oh, the A24 cameout with a slasher recently.
X Did you watch it and then Idid.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Was it good?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was.
It was a well done slasher.
It was still a slasher, thoughat the end of the day it was
definitely better.
It was definitely a little moretwisted.
I mean, a24 makes quality stuffand then they also came out
with a sequel for it.
What was the sequel to X?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think it was like Pearl right.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah Pearl, same actress who was in the thing,
and how was Kid Cudi?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Was he good?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, he was good.
He shows his slung.
Good to see Kid Cudi, prettysure, but he was good, he was
good.
No, seriously, I like Kid Cudi.
Anyways, let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So Jeepers, creepers, one Got a tomato meter score of
46 percent.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And the first one.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Audience score yeah, the first one.
What, wow?
Yeah, audience score 49.
Why Do you think it was goingto be more?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was, I was imagine in the 60s.
I didn't think it was bad.
I like, I liked.
Turning point was I liked whenthey was trapped in the police
station.
Oh, that shit was beast.
That's probably my favoritepart.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You gotta realize.
Like that's the thing aboutslashes, like they're not going
to get good ratings.
It's not just about you know,other people.
At the end of the day, jeepersCreepers they came out Labor Day
at the time was the highestgrossing Labor Day film in
America, let's go, you know.
And it only got beat by JeepersCreepers 2, which came out
Labor Day weekend a few yearslater.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So it definitely was like a cult classic, but, you
know, doesn't mean that it wasfucking good.
I personally, I think Idefinitely enjoyed it more when
I was younger and it actuallyspooked me.
It was creepy.
I had to like a lot of creepyshit.
But when I rewatched it now Iwas like no, this isn't like a
masterpiece.
It's not even a good slasher.
There's so many things.
The best part about it isprobably just in long, because I
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fucking love Justin.
He's funny.
So yeah, he's great.
And now it's his first big filmat the age of 22.
Nice, so he's really youngthere.
But I didn't think there was alot of goofs.
There was a lot of likedirector things that I usually
never am like.
I'm never looking for thosethings, but it was just so
obvious, like literally likethey're talking and kind of the
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sweet scenes and like when he'stalking it's like bright, and
then when she's talking it'slike evening.
You know, like the cars change,like outfit different.
I'm just like bro, this is likethis guy had money by the time
this came out, you know yeah, itdefinitely seemed low budget.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that's what I liked about it too.
I'm like I like, I like lowbudget, like aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It wasn't low budget, though.
I mean he had a lot of moneygoing into it, millions of
dollars going into it, so Iwouldn't say it's low.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
but not yet, but I look like it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I'm just saying yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.
You like that, like, likeraunch.
Yeah she's the right wordAesthetic.
You know we're rusty walls.
Yeah, first one came outco-classic Um 46.
What I say?
That I say yeah, 46, 749percent audience core.
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Do you think about that?
Agree, disagree.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Um, actually I'll put like I Mean I don't know if
this counts, but I'll put itlike 54, give it a little bit.
I'll give it like in the middleyeah, just a little bit more
I'll be.
I'll be decent because it did.
It was entertaining throughout,throughout the film.
I wasn't bored, nor was Isleepy.
That's what I mostly feel whenI watch most horror movies,
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except for meditator, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But it was fun to watch.
I'm gonna give it a fuckingzero.
You want to?
Why I'm a choice anymore has tobe a zero.
No, I think I likerealistically.
If I was gonna give itsomething, it probably be like
40%.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's a zero in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But I really would.
Didn't think it was as good asI remembered it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Um.
So the second one came out andonce again Did really well in
the box office, but didn't dowell Ratings.
Wise ron tomatoes gives it 24percent, the audience gave it 37
percent.
So they're okay.
Definitely a little moredisappointed.
What?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
do you think about the second?
Second one was a scary at all.
It was very action.
I think I saw more as likeDueling goes in action.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Action I just like, which is definitely a little
more different, but once again,wasn't blown away.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I like the shot.
The only the only thing I wasblown away was from the shuriken
when he threw that shit.
Well, I guess that was.
That was the only thing thattreat me yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Jeepers Creepers 3 Um Victor Salva's last Jeepers
Creepers film was like what thefuck came out in 2017.
Yeah, that that film wasabsolutely 17% Ron tomatoes 30%
audience score.
Nothing about that movie wasgood.
(09:16):
It was hard to watch.
It was hard to finish.
I'm not surprised.
It's really hard to find.
It's not on me like streamingplatforms.
You have to rent it, which isone of my deepest regrets right
Damn, did it hurt your heart?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
how much was rent?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
it hurt my heart especially have to find out
who's a pedo and?
And let's get, let's get thisout of the way the Jeepers
Creepers.
The Story is that there's thismonster comes out every 23 years
on the 23rd spring for 23 days,hunting and killing people, and
when he kills them not a very,not a new or uncommon theme,
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much like Freddy Krueger, or ifhe senses fear from you, then
he's kind of attracted to youand he kind of wants this thing
from you, right?
So, whether it's your eyes oryour liver, your heart or your
arms or whatever the fuck hetakes, he regenerates on his
body.
That that's it.
That's, that's the the core ofthe thing.
Now.
(10:15):
Jeepers Creepers 1, 2, 3 theydidn't make it like 23 years
after.
Each other was all kind of likethis Continuality of, like a
different story from this 23 dayperiod.
That, right.
The second, I think.
The first one, though, is likeno, I'm sorry, the second
Jeepers Creepers is Continue forcontinuity.
Steak the last one.
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Because he gets kidnapped,right, he actually loses.
Yeah, he gets, he gets, he getsa whole, a health captive.
Yeah, he gets health captive.
And Jeepers Creepers 3 isdirectly after.
He takes fucking Justin long inJeepers Creepers 1.
That's where they pick up inJeepers Creepers 3.
Look, don't watch these movies,don't do it.
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I'm just I'm telling youeverything.
That was the most interestingpart of Jeepers Creepers 3 is
when they start from JeepersCreepers that movie's absolutely
trash.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I was like, yeah, I was kind of surprised they took
it from there.
I was like yeah, I was thinkingbefore I started the movie like
does that mean that he escapedagain, even though you were
watching it?
And then you wanted to do thatshit.
I was, I didn't, I wasn't downfor that, for that story route,
but like, I gave it a try and Iregret it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, cuz they're not gonna go 23 years in the future
.
They could have gone 20 yearsin the past.
Actually, in the third moviethey kind of do do that.
They talk about some of hismurders 25 years ago.
But that's it, and that wholescene is is dumb, oh god, the
movie just think about the movieis frustrating, especially.
Once again, guys, I'm gonnakeep saying this until we
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actually talk about it more.
This guy's a fucking pedophile,so he shouldn't even get the I
don't know the time of day, youknow, but let's not forget, not
directed by Victor Savo.
They tried to resurrect JeepersCreepers as a series.
Think that they'd be a goodidea.
They came out fucking JeepersCreepers reborn.
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Directed by Timo Vura Sonsola Ithink he's French.
I could have butchered his name.
Honestly, bro, it was such awhole.
What do you think the broncenatal score was for two?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Definitely one digit.
I'll tell you that I'll pullfour.
No, I'll put that's toogenerous, I'll put two.
Yes, tomatoes you didn't yousurprised me this time.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Of the few times, I will agree with my rating.
It would be zero.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, zero percent sounds great Fucking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That movie was so odd .
They were like little thingsbro.
That didn't make sense, like ifyou have a low budget, which I,
which I don't know, if this guyI don't know how much money.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I could have till with all the CGI.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I know that they grossed two million dollars
, which is not that good.
Um, actually, I'm gonna look itup right now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean if their budget is below two million
dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know that's how much they made in the right.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm saying like if they're, if they're, if they're
budget is on the Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The Jeepers creepers reborn budget came out to around
five.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, well, and and honestly I don't, I don't just
Stand because they did weirdthings like remember, like
they'd be driving in the car andthey would pull like the
background of the car as CG yeah, like you know, like back in
the day they used to like peopleused to drive and they'd pull
like a fake background on theback.
Is that cheaper than According?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
to somebody drive.
I don't know, but it looks bad.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It looks really bad stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It just doesn't make any fucking sense, but that that
movie truly was fucking.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh.
When they had a scene where theguy was pretending to eat a
chicken.
You remember that he took thechicken leg.
Yeah, oh man that's yeah, whatwas that?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What was that?
I don't know.
I feel like there was no effort.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I feel like they, in the middle of the right, middle
of like direct directing themovie.
If again, just stop trying.
Yeah, what was worse?
The third or the or the reborn?
You stop answer that.
Are you gonna answer that?
The end?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Which is worse.
The third, yeah, the only thingthat makes a third worse is
that Victor salvo fucking, andwhen I continue to talk about
this guy, you're gonna realizewhy I fucking hate this guy so
much, even beyond the fact thathe's a pedo.
But if we're averaging all thescores that we gave Jeepers
Creepers, one, which is the onlyone we're gonna do, is the only
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one that deserves to really betalked about.
Actually, a Jeepers CreepersSlick gave it a 54.
The original rating was a 46.
I would give it a 40 and thatlevels it out about 46%.
So you win round spados.
You get that.
Jeepers Creepers got 24%.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What do you think?
Yeah, I give it like 20.
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I didn't think it was much worse than the second one.
I'm gonna go ahead and give ita little definitely a downgrade,
though I was fairlydisappointed.
Yeah, so after calculating ouraverages, that would be at about
a 26%, so actually Higher thanwhat Ron tomatoes gave it as the
real feel for this.
But you know, just to go overthis again, ladies and gentlemen
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, this is what we're gonna startdoing now.
We're gonna have the raw tomatoscore and then six gonna give a
score and I'm gonna give myscore.
We're gonna average thosescores up.
Real.
The real rating should be.
That's it.
I'm not gonna talk about Reborn, we agree zero, zero plus zero
plus zero.
Divided by fucking, anything iszero.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So infinite zeros, do-do-do-do buckets.
I can't say anything.
I think you said when we, whenwe finished watching, that's
actually the worst movie youmight have seen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We're cracking up, cracking up on you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Do you mean that it was at the worst, was reborn,
the worst movie ever seen, ortop three?
I think so.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I can't think of a, you know, because even like
sharknado it was like that leastthey weren't trying to be a
good sharknado.
Whoever made sharknado is afucking I don't know genius.
They made a lot of money.
They made more.
Everybody was talking aboutpeople watching for fun.
It was a fun movie.
This, this movie, jeepersCreepers of Born was somebody
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made it with intent to be good.
But let's, let's cut to thereal thing.
We're not gonna talk about themovie that much, because this
guy's a pedophile.
He doesn't deserve that fuckingattention.
We're gonna talk about fucking.
Victor salva was the director ofJeepers Creepers 1, 2 and 3 and
is a in the books, not anopinion, not a speculation a
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villain a fucking villain, apedophile, and Along with them
we're also gonna talk aboutFrancis Ford Capola, who is the
director of the Godfathers 1, 2and 3, and also director of the
outsiders and Random, the uncleof Nicholas Cage.
I did not know that?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that was a big one.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Nicholas, this cage is last name, is not cage, it's
fucking capital.
I don't know if I'm saying thelast name right.
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So, victor salva, how much research did you do on
this?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I read a story about him.
It was before I read a storyabout him.
He directed a movie beforeJeepers Creepers, clownhouse
yeah, that one, and that's whereit all started.
He like, yeah, I think Melissa,the 12 year old boy right,
because there was a child actorin that movie and From the
article I read, that's where,like, the allegations all
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started at and then for somereason, they still came to make
more movies.
So that happened.
That happened before JeepersCreepers.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, he actually ended up working for Disney.
Yeah, they've worked for Disneyafter being a shit.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Even after the allegations and like yeah, there
was no, let's not call themallegations.
No, no, yeah, I know it's realand and, but I'm just saying
like after the after jail, afterjail.
After the controversy still gothired.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, after the country, I'm gonna give you the
full fucking story.
He did a movie us powder.
The movie is powdered fromDisney, but anyways, anyways.
So let's say the.
Everything I read about Victorsalva, about his like upbringing
, is a little weird becauseliterally like nobody, this
family has ever spoke publiclyabout Victor salva.
The only thing we know aboutVictor salva is the stuff that
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Victor salva is told himselfthat he was abused by a
stepfather, that his motherdidn't give a shit and that he
got made fun of Like crazy forbeing gay other than that did
well in school.
Everybody thought he was a greatartist, which I completely
disagree with, and he worked ata preschool.
That's how he gathered a lot ofhis money.
He worked in preschool, whichis like fucking pedophile number
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one thing to do, by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fucking be around the things artists was he like an
actual like painter or was hejust like artists and like I,
like his artist isn't like afilm film maker, like artists,
isn't like he, you know, likehis teachers.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
According to him, his teachers praised him for being
a great storyteller.
According to him.
Yeah, anyways, the first moviethat he ever really made at home
, before he had anything, was amovie called Something in the
basement.
So he made a movie calledsomething in the basement 1986
and he actually submitted it tothe Sony AFI American Film
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Institute home video competition.
One of the judges for thatcompetition was Francis Ford,
paula Wow Coppola, and that'show they met.
Fucking Victor South ended upwinning first place in the
fucking Sony AFI home videoCompetition and I think he came
in like third place in likeanother European thing you
submitted shit to and after thatFrancis Coppola gave him.
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Coppola Gave him money to makeclown house and that was his
first featured film.
For those that don't know,clown house is actually a
fucking Cold classic somehow,for like really really deep
horror it's classic fanaticsnever it's about, yeah, yeah,
clowns.
It's.
You know it has, like it's soeasy, once again not very
creative.
It's about three young boys,all under the age of 18, the
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youngest one being 12 years old,and they're home alone and
there's fucking three serialkiller clowns that escaped
prison, that fucking attack, allright, and throughout the movie
, a lot of weird shots.
They're definitely, like youknow, home with their shirts off
, whatever, whatever.
But the youngest actor for thatone because those three kids
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was young boy named Nathanforest winters and he met Nathan
forest winners in preschoolwhen he was six years old and he
was grooming him from six tillthey made that movie clown house
when he was 12 years old.
God damn, yeah.
So he, you know, as mostpredators, like it's a slow
grooming process.
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You know, like you meet them,you meet their parents, you know
you're there, you babysit, youcontinue to babysit and then you
start taking a mile andobviously, like the parents
appreciate having a friend whois kind of taking the stress off
a little bit, and then you gaintrust over, I mean, from the
age of six to twelve, which ishow he was when he did clown
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house.
That's six years of buildingtrust and grooming not only the
kid, but the parents you know hetried out for something in the
basement.
I think he was him and a wholebunch of the other preschool to
try for something in thebasement.
And Nathan forest winners saysthat's actually when he started
getting molested and touched byVictor salva.
So while they were filmingClownhouse, a whole bunch of
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people thought it was mad, weird, that fucking, literally in
between every break Big Tissabuwould have fucking Nathan
winners on his lap and theythought it was inappropriate.
And the whole time they wouldgo up to his mom and she would
be like no, it's fine.
And so finally it got to whereshe was like yeah, you know what
?
Like too many people are comingup to me saying that this is
kind of inappropriate, thisrelationship you have with my
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son.
So she said something and hebanned her from the set, saying
that like hey, there's nothingto worry about, but you can't
come to us anymore becauseNathan can't vote what, and yeah
, and then not only that, butthen Nathan had to start staying
in after going to his trailerto work more on the film he get
eventually, because at thispoint he's 12.
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He starts realizing, like now,that people are having
relationships and sexuality iskind of like something talked
about in school that, like thethings that these people are
doing with each other, victorSalva is doing to him and he's
like yo, this is weird.
I'm going to tell my mom.
He tells his mom and sheimmediately calls the cops and
they basically organize a bigsting operation.
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They rate the trailer, theyrate his home and they find
bought child pornography.
They find homemade videos thathe the same camera he was using
to film clown houses, the camerahe used to film kids.
They found videos of himperforming oral sex on Nathan
Winters.
(23:43):
That's crazy, it wasn't yetthey found pictures.
Well, this wasn't likesomething that was like, oh, you
know, all the evidence got likefucking burned or whatever.
No, that wasn't the case.
Anyways, before I continue,there's like a interview and the
news that I found with NathanWinters and he kind of explains
everything.
So I'm actually going to playthat and we can talk about it a
(24:05):
little after, but it's actuallypretty cool, not cool.
I'm going to fucking edit thatout.
It's, you know, it's fromhorses.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Now, no, man, you won't put that in no no, no, no,
what no way.
It's a right man.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm not going to cancel because nobody hears this
.
It's fucked up.
Shit.
That was crazy.
I'm going to make this a clip,but I'm just going to say it's
like higher.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That shit's to me too , bro.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Obviously that shit's so funny.
Hold on, let me actually.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Man, as long as you apologize after you said it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that wasn't.
Yeah, it wasn't cool.
Guys, it was.
It's not.
None of this is cool.
This is the fucking is.
I'm going to play it right nowfor you.
You ready?
So?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
yeah, right when they hear pretty cool, that's it,
I'm done, just exit out.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Instantly, instantly, fucking, instantly.
Well, this is cool.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's just for the button.
Now tell me something.
Take us through the steps ofhow Victor Salva was held
accountable for molesting you asa child.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Let's see, it was a when he was arrested.
It was a sting operation Firstof all, and so, after we
finished up principalphotography for clown house,
because of the cameras are usedwere literally the ones that
George Lucas used for Americangraffiti, and so they're really
(25:54):
old, outdated cameras and theywere extremely loud so every bit
of sound on that film had to bedubbed over, and so it was
basically a month of shootingand then a month of overdubs,
and it was right in between,like right in the first couple
days of doing the overdubs, thatthe police did the sting
operation and caught him just acouple of miles away from his
(26:16):
house.
And then, I mean, they found,you know, like a pretty much a
kiddie porn den, just videotapesupon videotapes and photo
albums full of like boysmodeling underwear for you know
Macy's or series, plus picturesof countless little boys and all
sorts of just really reallydisgusting stuff was found, and
(26:39):
Victor admitted to all of it.
He admitted to all of it untilthere was an attorney involved,
and Coppola is where theattorney came in, like that's,
that's where the money came fromfor the attorney, for Victor's
attorney was, so Coppola getshim this really you know,
expensive lawyer, and and thenit turns into where he you know,
(27:03):
because the police already hadon file, on record him admitting
to all these things, because hewas arrested on 11 counts of
child molestation, including oilsodomy on a child under 14, you
know, oil copulation on a childunder 14, videotaping these
things.
And then you know severalcharges that had to do with the
(27:25):
production of clownhouse andbeing abused during that
production.
So he of course retractseverything and the lawyers get
him to shut his mouth and, youknow, stop making their jobs
harder.
And eventually what happened wassome point Coppola filed a
(27:46):
lawsuit against my family forfive million dollars for some
breach of contract or something.
And my lawyer called my parentsone day and said you know, the
appointment we had with Victor'sattorneys are not, it has been
(28:06):
rescheduled, it's been pushed totold tomorrow so you guys don't
need to come in today.
And so you know, we stayed homeand my attorney actually went
down and met with Victor'slawyers and signed up, you know,
wrote up a plea bargain and hadit signed and the plea bargain
dropped the six most severecharges, the ones that had to do
(28:26):
with the production ofclownhouse and the abuse, and he
was convicted on five, the fiveleast severe charges are signed
a plea bargain of that and wassentenced three years.
And he maybe.
He was in jail for a short timewhen he was first arrested, but
after that he didn't go toprison.
(28:47):
He never saw another jail cell.
He went to a treatment facilityin Napa oh what a retreat.
Lovely Right, Right.
Yeah, he did 15 months, so I'msorry he had movie deals waiting
for him, you know.
Like he had is like you know,warm reception when he got out
(29:08):
of his treatment and was rightback to work, you know, shortly
thereafter.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
All right.
So Francis Ford Coppola steppedinto not only help him, but
then he sued you.
Yes, it was slime bag.
Are you kidding me?
He, this notable, legendaryHollywood director, stepped into
not only throw sand in yourface, but to help someone that
(29:38):
had been arrested on unspeakablecharges.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Mm, hmm, yep.
On the freaking once the filmwas because I still had to go
and do all the overdubs.
So, after he was arrested, so Istill had a month's worth of
work at Coppola's house everysingle day for you know, eight
or nine hours every day for amonth.
Wow, where it's which time Iwas like blackballed, told I
(30:03):
never work in the industry again.
Sure, you know, like all sortsof stuff, and you know, oh man,
yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, it's crazy, right.
That's incredibly frustrating.
I can't imagine the pain thefamily fell in him.
I just like fucked up, that'scorrupt, yeah well it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And you know what that means?
It means that this fuckingFrancis, yeah, yeah, francis
Ford Coppola is 100% a fuckingpedophile.
Yeah, francis is like 110%,like there's no doubt about it.
But yeah, he only served, yeah,13 months, 13 or 15 months from
a three year sentence and thenafter that he had worked on
(30:50):
Disney and he eventually makesJeepers, creepers 1, 2 and 3.
And it's been on record ininterviews where he said that,
you know, he thought he was thevictim.
He was like those were thescariest ones in my life.
I was getting beat up becausepeople heard what I did.
Thank God that Francis FordCoppola was telling me that this
(31:10):
was going to make me a betterartist.
Blah, blah, blah, um, andFrancis Ford Coppola stands by
that.
He like twists the narrativethat it is is very like it is,
it's true, where prison is notfor rehabilitation.
Prison is where people rot anddie, and that's kind of been a
problem with prison for a longtime, you know.
(31:32):
And he uses that against thepeople because he's like, oh no,
he needs to be rehabilitated,he's cured for all his things
and he's a great artist, blah,blah, blah.
And that's not the casewhatsoever, oh no, and there's a
lot of talking on the internetlike, oh, can you separate art
and the artists?
You know, I mean, this istalked with our Kelly's and his
(31:53):
songs and Michael Jackson andyou know his songs.
You know, you know that's notfully proven yet, but I don't
even know.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That, that, that that ideology depends on, like the
person.
I mean, if you're a victim ofthat individual and you hear his
art Musically or you think yousee it, that's gonna, it's gonna
hurt you.
You can't, you can't stand byby the art, separate artists by
the artistry, but like otherpeople, you know they can't cuz
they have nothing to do with him.
You know, like for our Kellyyeah, fuck, what are Kelly?
(32:26):
They say, like no matter what,you know, I mean, his music is
great, but they were the victimthey wanted they wouldn't be
saying that, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, so it definitely depends.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
A varies from a lot of individuals and a lot of
people have their differentperspective on it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Before you even get into that conversation, let's be
real.
This fucking guy's not evenfucking talented like that.
Like this guy's not.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Not that good, I mean .
I mean, I could just tell fromhis other movies.
That's just not.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Even, even Jeepers, creepers, the whole Concept or
in the beginning of the moviewhere you know there's these two
people and they saw somebodydump a body and they got the
license plate down because thatperson got mad and like random
off the road.
That's not even original,that's.
That's a real life case.
It was inspired by something Iwas in an episode of unsolved
(33:19):
mysteries in like 1990 when youknow Dennis DePew, a former
Michigan property Like owner,was driving by Florida and they
found somebody dumping a bodyand then they it rode, rage them
, they memorized the licenseplate and they called the cops
and they found out he was like.
That was not even original.
It's guys, not a genius in anysense, right the word you know.
(33:40):
But yeah, and this is you know.
I'm glad we decided to Reviewthe movie because otherwise we
never fucking know him bro andwe got to spread the awareness
to about this guy.
Yeah, this guy's.
We never would have known thatthis guy was.
It's crazy.
We got a we got to address his,his, his wickedness and Francis
(34:03):
Ford couple and both of that guyis that guy's a fucking If
equally as evil as this guy.
Yeah, so people should shouldbe aware.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's good that we're informative so people will know
forever To never support theseguys ever again for the rest of
the lives.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yo, we're weird and fucking.
I don't know.
He won't ever dare to makeanother movie, though I'll tell
you that one.
Oh, definitely neither.
Yeah, I don't think either ofthem.
I don't know about friends, Idon't know what he's up to,
let's see.
But if Victor Salva decided tomake a movie right now, he would
not make it.
Oh yeah, I don't think he'sdoing anything recent.
I mean that guy's pretty old.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Right there's his four couple.
Yeah, I would dizzy, Is he.
Is he like Clint Eastwood, ageGood?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
question Hopefully, dice.
Oh, he has an upcoming megalapolis.
Oh, I heard about that.
Yeah, watch that shit.
And architect wants to rebuildNew York City as the utopia
following a devastating disaster.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Isn't that based on the old movie?
Mega lapolis was like all thismovie right back in the day.
Is that like a remake?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I think so, and the stars are right now Shia
LaBeouf, aubrey Plaza.
Hey right, I can't watch it,though dog Can't do it.
This guy's a fucking, actualreal life criminal.
I don't think it was a moviebeforehand, but he did write the
script in like the 1980s, oh,so it wasn't an old movie
because when I heard it it waslike let's see the one, the
black and white.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
AJ, I might be wrong, though I'll be super wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Apparently, they started actually doing a
pre-production for the film withRobert Gennaro and Uma Thurman,
but it was all in New York andthen 9-11 happened and they just
can't do it.
Wow, yeah, anyways, that guy'sa fucking message society.
So, as great as that sounds,I'm not fucking watching that
shit, and I'm.
I'm not even gonna look upVictor Salva, because I'm
positive he's not doing a shitforever.
Good, I wonder if these peopleknow.
(35:50):
I wonder if Shia LaBeouf andAudrey Plaza know what the fuck
they probably don't, so whatthey probably do know.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But they just got to do it for business and for money
.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now I mean, I don't think Shia LaBeouf or Audrey
Plaza both need to make any moremoney, desperately that they
got a fucking follow-up Pito.
I think it's just don't know,maybe it's a good ass story.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You just don't know, that could definitely be a huge
reason.
I mean, yeah, you mean theGodfather.
I give him that.
You know, that's.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Fucking fuck that guy and I have doesn't matter.
If you guys do want to find outmore about this whole Victor
Salva thing, I think there'sthis YouTube video, the case of
Victor Salva by dreading.
It was a really good video.
They talk about it in much moredepth than we do, that, as you
know.
But other than that, I haven'tseen that much information on
this.
I think all that informationjust came out on the latter end
(36:44):
of last year, so it's prettyrecent.
Other than that, you know, Idon't think there's much more we
got to say about people'screepers, but yeah for the next,
next.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh no, I was gonna say yeah, it's overall.
The franchise is not a goodfranchise.
I would say it's really not.
It's.
I would just see, just see thefirst one, if you want, really
want to, and then Just pretendit's happily ever after, if you
really want to you know, it'snot worth saying second.
Third is not continuity.
The characters not even cool.
It's really not worth it.
(37:15):
It's sincerely not worth it atall.
Like it's not even a good badmovie.
Like you know how there's badmovies that are good and you can
laugh at.
It's not these.
It's not at all, so don't wasteyour time true, it's very true.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
All right, what are you thinking about for next week
?
So?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
well, well, we're watching theaters.
We got to do the movies, youwatching theaters.
Oh my god, barbie's coming outthis week.
I think Barbie and open high.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Are you gonna forget about how?
You're gonna forget about open?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I'm gonna stop this week, it's next week.
Oh, it's now.
Okay, it's not this weekend,it's next week.
They're coming out the same day.
Holy shit, primo, yeah, primo,I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Well, we'll discuss what's what's coming out for the
next episode.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Watch a movie.
Some theaters.
Yeah, we watched spider-verseand we watched the Flash, so
we'll do on them.
We haven't done some modernmovies in a while in little
shorts.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Little shorts.
I definitely think flash thisdidn't get the.
Well, you know people don'tlike DC right now and I get it,
but I think I was pretty goodman.
Michael Keen's Batman how canyou beat that?
That shit was like so nostalgic, yeah.
And and that action scene thatMichael Keen has has to be one
of the greatest Batman actionscenes has ever occurred in the
history of history.
(38:38):
Wait, which one there was many,the one where he, when he comes
down in the tower, what the only, honestly the biggest action
scene that Michael Keen has whenthey're saving Supergirl, when
they first get into the thing.
That scene was crazy bro.
We were losing our minds inthat.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
That shit was amazing.
It wasn't just pretty girlsamazing.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I don't know man, that's just pretty good, what's?
A better action scene, batmanaction scene than that better, I
mean.
I mean I think they're all thesame the dark night.
I mean they're all good,they're all enjoyably good.
I think I don't have anypreference, what's better or
worse, I'm gonna come back out.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Look see if I can find a clip, if I can find a
clip of that Batman fighting andI'm a re-show team, I'm like,
okay, yeah, that she was fire,that was good.
And they had that one reallyfunny scene where he moves.
We're like the young EzraMiller moves, the older I'm
sorry, barry Allen.
The young Barry Allen moves,the older Barry Allen and he's
like did you move me?
He's like, yeah, just a littlebit, and he starts throwing up.
(39:40):
That shows hilarious.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, that was generally funny.
They got me there Even the wayhe vomited was like Screaming.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
No, I didn't think that movie was that bad, but you
know DC has fucked up so muchit's, you know it's it's.
It's hard to get the trust backfrom the people who have gone
time and time again to watch amovie that they thought were
gonna be good and honestly, Iwasn't a big fan of even the
ones that did well in theaters.
I wasn't a big fan of WonderWoman, I definitely wasn't a big
fan.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Aquaman was, was the 1984 was like yo, I wish that
something, something, something,and I wish of that in this.
They had to do it like ourwishes, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
do wishes and and she beats him by monologuing
they're gonna beat his ass.
She monologues him, it's and.
And then he's just like you'reright and he Was in there, right
he was.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
He was a villain.
I know there's two villainsthere was the cat lady and then
there was him.
I could have stolen his pet.
Yeah, I like Pedro's role, oh.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I mean, look, I love Pedro Pascal, so I'm not
gonna dog him that much, or Ican tell you that movie was not
that With the script, I mean thewriting was just yeah and, oh
my god, batman vs Supermanwasn't good, the best.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Superman was epic, it was all right, it was okay.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
The best thing was the fucking Batman action scene
in the warehouse.
Oh, Bro he's literally justScrambled, scrambled eggs for
brains to like ten people in arow, bro.
There's this one scene inBatman vs Superman, bro, and in
(41:30):
the fighting shed scene where,if you haven't seen it, yeah, I
don't even know go watch rightnow.
It's, though, it's the bestscene, the movie where he
fucking battering Not batteringhe be grappling hooks a box and
he throws it in the corner likedirectly hits the head of one of
the henchmen, yeah, and then hegoes flying and then crashes
(41:52):
against the wall.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
That guy is so, yeah, that guy is the most dead one,
how heavy that box was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, that was well.
When I saw shit live, I like Ifell back.
I was like no way, guys.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
People in the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Thing, but that's brutal.
Like there's murdering people,shooting somebody with a gun,
and then there's like I'm gonnathrow this big-ass Box hundred
pound box cornered to your head.
You know it's kind of likegetting shot sucks.
We're sort of stepping on aLego.
You know, that's like a certainpain.
I feel like that box was just areally cruel way to kill
somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
No, man, that was great man.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I didn't, I never seen.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Aquaman, but I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Aquaman's not that good bro.
The best thing about Aquaman isthat fucking William de Frenzen
it.
William, my friend will am myfriend William de friend.
Will him the friend bro.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't know you was.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That's just what else .
Black black he's like veryminor.
Oh, black Adam was okay, itwasn't that bad.
The Justice Society was reallycool in black and got him.
That was the best part of themovie and I think I feel like
that didn't, that didn't getenough, like.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Sam, I didn't see that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
The first she's in was alright.
The second, she jam, wasalright.
No, those weren't that goodeither.
I don't know.
That didn't deserve any type ofloose.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You lose on the second one.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Honestly, I didn't finish watch a second one, so I
can't say you know, yeah, andyou know what it is.
I just can't take.
I can't take Shazam serious.
I don't like him as a superhero.
It's.
He's not very.
He's not super me.
I don't know what his powersare.
Yeah he's like all right,except fucking.
If you cover his mouth beforehe turns into Sam, you fucking
(43:50):
one.
Yeah, that's great, one second.
Let me just look in the then.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So Then I'm gonna make like a shazam versus black
Adam movie.
Is that never gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I think that is something that they were.
James Gunn got it.
They were leaning towards yeah,but James comes up, do it.
I think he's scrappingeverything, though Honestly, I
mean I can't play, yeah, but uh,just a society in in black Adam
.
Have you seen black Adam?
Speaker 2 (44:23):
No oh.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They're really cool.
Dr Destiny is amazing.
Or you know?
Destiny?
No, don't fuck, what have you?
He's great, played by PierceBrosnan.
Um, hawk man, who should belame, is fucking cool as fuck.
Yeah, and he's, he's cool man.
They did a good job with him.
Adam smash your cyclone arealso in there.
(44:46):
Just society, you know one ofthe lesser known DC things and
they did a good job with that.
So black Adam, not too bad.
What else?
Well, the movies.
The Justice League movie wasfucking trash.
Zack Snyder is not good.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Did you see the director?
I think I had a director cut.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, I watched the directors cut too and it was
still not good.
It was more disappointing to meThen.
Not only was it not good now,or just so, what's the word like
?
So Average, that Like?
(45:24):
It means nothing to me.
I'm like indifferent.
I'm I'm frustratinglyindifferent when I watched it
and now I watched a four-hourversion and it was just a waste
of time.
Zack Snyder is not that goodlike Zack Snyder.
300 was great watchman, prettycool, but a daughter, the dead,
fucking one of my favoritezombie movies in one time.
Second punch other than that.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Man of steel is okay, that's.
It was like.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I was like that.
She was epic yeah, it reallywas like but it was like too
much like I was.
It was like one of those movieswhere I wasn't even sure if
Superman was a good guy.
Buddy on the movie she's supermany use you murdered.
I mean like Buildings weregetting collapsed during these
fights.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Are you gonna use?
He's come out with another one,though, called rebel moon.
It says when a colony on theedge of the galaxy find itself
threatened by the armies of atyrannical region by the Sirius,
it dispatch a young man withthe mysterious path to seek out
warriors from neighboringplanets.
To help them take a stand.
Screenplay and directed by, andcinematography and produced by
(46:40):
yeah, and has.
Anthony.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Hopkins, oh yeah, yeah, I don't give a fuck, bro
Zack Snyder, you, you're notgetting me again, bro, I watched
too much.
You've disappointed.
You know I'm a Batman fan,you're a Batman fan and you, you
.
Yeah, we're huge, huge, andmaybe that's a big reason we
like flash.
But I think everybody can agreeMichael Keaton's amazing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean you should watch it.
I mean was just overall, batmanwas the highlight of that movie
, literally.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
In the movie, like a large majority of the movie.
So it's not even like, oh,that's the only good part.
Like no, that.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
That's why the movie is good but you Carry the whole
movie should have been.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, that's the point of failure.
They should have been the flashmultiverse that's.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That's what the name should have been.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, but Not what he did to Batman in the Justice
League movies.
Over good boy to me he was justthat may was so not important
and so lame.
Honestly, yeah, it was.
It was fucked up because if youcan make Captain America who is
so much lame, or then ThenBatman, if you make America good
(47:59):
and important and badass in theAvengers movies, you could make
Batman relevant and good in theJustice League movie you could.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Agree, let me see discography Just coming.
My bad is Cattle are like easy,yeah I.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Well, yeah, I mean yes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, he has rebel.
Won't coming out as AnthonyHopkins.
That's like this Can you see,sucker punch.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, it's awesome.
I thought those are right.
The actual is kind of cool, butit was like a knob, very like,
and they was.
You know it's deep, but Wasthat army of dead trash movie?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh man, army of the dead, it's on Netflix.
Yeah, I was that, was itNetflix?
But?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I don't know if I wanted to watch you.
Watch it.
Watch it.
Watch it right now.
Watch after this 67 whoa.
Don't know the dead, though.
That's my favorite.
That's one of my favoritezombie movies.
Was that really good?
Hell, yeah, good.
It's a dream.
(49:04):
Zombie apocalypse you get stuckin the mall to survive.
That's cool.
That's the only down to the gun.
Right, there's a land of thedead.
Yeah, no, there's no likecontinuation up.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
The cool is though.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
All right, yeah, you got got.
He's got a.
I mean my scar Zach's night.
You got a got a.
You know rebel moon man.
So watch out for the newepisode of round potatoes on
rebel I'd rather fucking, supukuFucking.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
If I ever see Zach's night, he better fucking.
Then real men, decide me to myfucking face bro.
He doesn't be the first thinghe says to me.
They're fucking go mend theside of me.
Sorry for everything I've doneto you and Batman fans across.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
What if he cast you on one of his movies?
He's like you know, I see uspotential as what as uh, I don't
know he gave you a lot of moneyfor being an extra.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
If you make, a male, montoya, I'm in, I'll kill that
role, okay?
Oh man, she's the currentcommissioner in the current, so
you'll work with them.
I Well, I work.
I mean, will I work with them?
I'm just a peon.
Will I work with them?
It depends.
After read the script, I'm notgonna sell myself.
Okay, At least I'd hope so.
Who knows if he comes up to me.
Really good.
(50:24):
That's what I'm saying.
That's tough stuff for me tosay no to that.
Guys, I'm broke.
I'm broke.
Let's say you know so, fuckingthis guy and fucking Shia
LaBeouf, making you know this.
France Capella movie, francisFord Capel movie, coppola movie
(50:48):
it's not like that.
They don't need that money.
I need money.
I.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Need money, you'll say go money site to him after
after he gives you the hundreddollar, a hundred million dollar
contract.
Sorry, I said all those thingsto you, zach.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'll be like no, zach , I stand by, just yeah unless
he unless the contract says Iapologize.
In which case, yes, fucking.
Raw tomatoes episode.
Raw potatoes episode.
Fucking, only notes one I'mlike yo, everything I said about
the fucking cinematic Don't.
I did say, though, 300.
That's a fucking, that's abanger.
You know don't of the deadbanger.
(51:24):
I'm not saying this guy's nottalented, I'm just saying that
he doesn't know shit about DCComics.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
So that's why he's coming rebel moon.
I don't know what that based on.
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Stop it.
So if you say rebel moon onemore time and we don't get
sponsored by them, At least he'sstarting new man.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Fuck, that's verse.
I'm so glad the the end of theair was now and the end of the
what's my Snyder's Snyder's era.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Snyder's Snyder versus over baby James Gunn town
Suicide squad.
Love James Gunn suicide squad.
That's one of the.
That's the best DC movie.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You don't like the original one right at all.
Really, you're not like WillSmith.
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
I love.
I know he's all fucked up rightnow.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Like fully recovered.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Recovered.
You know, I mean you never didthe right.
First of all, he's rich, isn't?
It doesn't matter, he won.
I'm just saying I don't knowwho he is as a person, but he
seems cool.
But I love him in movies.
I love him a movie.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
I actually like the first Suicide Squad.
I didn't think.
It was horrible, like peoplewere like oh my god, this is the
worst shit ever received.
And then I'm watching theending was the ending.
I remember the ending.
They build them out right likeJerry, let it'll build.
They got built out, but howthey quenched some shit.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, yeah, and like it was, like the.
The slow-mo scene was so slowmo that it it was.
It was.
It was too much, bro.
I remember literally watchingin theaters during the slow-mo.
I was like this should stop me.
I want to go home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I'm ready to go home now.
Yeah, anything, it was that bad, I Enjoyed it.
It was alright man.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Will Smith is dead shot, that's.
Yeah, that was a great cast.
He did great, I agree.
Um, so he did great, but so didfucking egress.
So I mean, I mean you want tomake a character cool cast him
is black, hey, I mean.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I'm in.
Did you like polka dot man?
He was the main reason why thestar fell down you contributed a
lot.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Oh yeah, I mean I was a match.
I was a match that's like realI.
I read the comics.
I'm a fan.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Seriously, they did a really great job, like all the
characters are well-written.
I'm so glad the oh yeah, theywere so unique.
I like them.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
the rat catcher too, and you know she was all David,
david dash Malekian I thinkthat's how you pronounce the
last name who plays polka dotman and also is in the dark
nights.
Um, really you?
Speaker 4 (54:20):
know kind of has like that creepy.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Yeah, he's using the dark nights, the.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Christopher.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Nolan.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
He plays is like the unstable guy who keeps escaping
from fucking Arkham asylum.
I'll, I'll, I'll show you.
Clip it either way.
Look this guy.
If you guys don't know he is.
I'm a photo picture.
I mean, higher up talk wasn'tfor the way this guy looks.
It's like either I can't tell Icall him rat man or man rat,
because it's either a manturning into a rat or a rat
(54:51):
training.
I can't tell you which is which.
I can't tell you which side.
I don't know which is happening, what process of the button
button is happening.
But it's true, but he did agreat job of spoke about man.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
What was that?
I want to look it up right here.
Oh, prisoners yeah, his role inprisoners was amazing.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, I like, I like a lot of great movie.
It's a good movie good villain.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
For sure, play the shit out of that guy good movie
any who.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Ladies, gentlemen, thank you for joining us on
another episode of fucking realrom potatoes, where we rate rom
tomato scores and then find outthe average for the real feel.
We had a.
We had a good time.
We didn't, we didn't, we didn'tknow this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, it was half Jeepers.
Creepers have talking shitabout Scott Snyder, have it was
Jeepers gears, but really it wasjust.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Don't ever watch, you was, here was again.
Don't ever support France forcapital.
Don't ever support Victor salvaepisode.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
You and get ready for the snack Snyder movie.
Yeah, december, stop it.
Ryan's made those scores and then give a reading
of our own and then give anaverage.
This intro song, which I juststopped, was actually made by
our very own Slick Zeclenn andthat shit's fire, Thank you.
So that's.
It's going to be the intromoving forward, no matter what,
for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Very ghetto.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, um.
So in today's episode we'reactually going to talk about a
fucking cult classic Jeeperscreep.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And also a corrupted cult, classic.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Corrupted, you know before we decided to do this
movie, before we found out thatthe director, Victor Salva, was
a fucking full fledged Pito.
It just, it just happened to bethat it came upon our lap like
that.
We actually didn't know untilwe watched the movies.
That was the worst part.
I fucking watched thosehorrible ass movies.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And when doing research I found out this guy,
the third one and the fourth oneare like, they're like strong
attenders of worst movies I'veever seen.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No, you're absolutely right.
And you know I think this wasthe last new slasher, because
all the slashers kind of havelike history.
You know fucking Freddy Krueger, friday 13th, jason Michael
with Halloween's scream, youknow Ghost Face and scream, all
those.
They have long history, but I,you know this one was born in
(01:25):
the 2000s.
It was the last slasher thatwas really created.
Oh, it's not for good, texas.
Yeah, I'm going to say that Lastyear Uh huh, but all that is
much older than than Jeepers.
Creepers, you're just creepers,probably the newest of the
slasher.
I don't think any new slasher'sare made anymore, because it's
not good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's, it's, it's easy .
It's a really lazy format.
Typically, you know, womanprotagonist, who you need to be
charismatic and kind of likecomedy kind of slashers
everybody's run for your lives.
People are making all themistakes that you would never
want to make yourself, likerunning upstairs instead of out
through the front, or going togo down into the tunnel by
(02:05):
themselves, going to thebasement by themselves, that's
up to sure.
That's kind of what makesslasher's fun that they made
these stupid decisions and wewatched them laugh.
Is leprechaun a slasher?
Is leprechaun a slasher?
Sure, yeah, yeah, leprechaun.
Leprechaun on the hood, hellyeah, ilzner slasher's older,
old too, I think.
Definitely less popular.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, that wouldn't the first one come out.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
The first leprechaun.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
The first leprechaun came out in 1993.
Oh wow, With our boy WarwickDavis and Jennifer Aniston
Somehow I'm completely forgotabout that.
And there are a lot, there area lot of leprechauns.
The only one I really rememberthose leprechaun in the hood,
man Leprechaun on the hood waswas too good.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Actually was a.
What was that movie calledWrong Turn that came out early
2000s, right, is that kind ofslasher?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, I think that's more of like a monster movie.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Really the guys are monsters, or?
Speaker 1 (02:58):
wrong turn, weren't there monsters in wrong turn.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I mean they're deformed human beings, they're
like monsters.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I'd say that's more like a monster.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, because they did slash, they did have machetes
and shit.
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I mean, yeah, every, every, you know most monsters.
I don't know if it'stechnically a slasher, let's see
what the I mean, they use gunstoo.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So I don't know like what it categorized as slasher.
I don't know if you it is aslasher.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It is a slasher according to the Internet.
Wrong turn is it's only there2003 slasher film.
You know I disagree, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't.
I don't watch slasher filmslike that, so I don't know what
categorized as slasher.
I don't know if they only needa knife throughout the whole
movie to be kind of slash it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, yeah, nah, I feel like, like I said, slasher
is like just that movie.
It's kind of lazy A lot ofchase scenes.
Not chase scenes, you know,teenagers typically, I feel like
, or young adults.
Should I say definitely femaleprotagonist.
It's the only way a lot ofpeople care.
Apparently that seems to be thetheme for a lot of the movies.
(04:05):
The slasher is oh, the A24 cameout with a slasher recently.
X Did you watch it and then Idid.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Was it good?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was.
It was a well done slasher.
It was still a slasher, thoughat the end of the day it was
definitely better.
It was definitely a little moretwisted.
I mean, a24 makes quality stuffand then they also came out
with a sequel for it.
What was the sequel to X?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think it was like Pearl right.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah Pearl, same actress who was in the thing,
and how was Kid Cudi?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Was he good?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, he was good.
He shows his slung.
Good to see Kid Cudi, prettysure, but he was good, he was
good.
No, seriously, I like Kid Cudi.
Anyways, let's get into it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So Jeepers, creepers, one Got a tomato meter score of
46 percent.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And the first one.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Audience score yeah, the first one.
What, wow?
Yeah, audience score 49.
Why Do you think it was goingto be more?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was, I was imagine in the 60s.
I didn't think it was bad.
I like, I liked.
Turning point was I liked whenthey was trapped in the police
station.
Oh, that shit was beast.
That's probably my favoritepart.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
You gotta realize.
Like that's the thing aboutslashes, like they're not going
to get good ratings.
It's not just about you know,other people.
At the end of the day, jeepersCreepers they came out Labor Day
at the time was the highestgrossing Labor Day film in
America, let's go, you know.
And it only got beat by JeepersCreepers 2, which came out
Labor Day weekend a few yearslater.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
So it definitely was like a cult classic, but, you
know, doesn't mean that it wasfucking good.
I personally, I think Idefinitely enjoyed it more when
I was younger and it actuallyspooked me.
It was creepy.
I had to like a lot of creepyshit.
But when I rewatched it now Iwas like no, this isn't like a
masterpiece.
It's not even a good slasher.
There's so many things.
The best part about it isprobably just in long, because I
(06:02):
fucking love Justin.
He's funny.
So yeah, he's great.
And now it's his first big filmat the age of 22.
Nice, so he's really youngthere.
But I didn't think there was alot of goofs.
There was a lot of likedirector things that I usually
never am like.
I'm never looking for thosethings, but it was just so
obvious, like literally likethey're talking and kind of the
(06:24):
sweet scenes and like when he'stalking it's like bright, and
then when she's talking it'slike evening.
You know, like the cars change,like outfit different.
I'm just like bro, this is likethis guy had money by the time
this came out, you know yeah, itdefinitely seemed low budget.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think that's what I liked about it too.
I'm like I like, I like lowbudget, like aesthetic.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It wasn't low budget, though.
I mean he had a lot of moneygoing into it, millions of
dollars going into it, so Iwouldn't say it's low.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
but not yet, but I look like it.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I'm just saying yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.
You like that, like, likeraunch.
Yeah she's the right wordAesthetic.
You know we're rusty walls.
Yeah, first one came outco-classic Um 46.
What I say?
That I say yeah, 46, 749percent audience core.
(07:14):
Do you think about that?
Agree, disagree.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Um, actually I'll put like I Mean I don't know if
this counts, but I'll put itlike 54, give it a little bit.
I'll give it like in the middleyeah, just a little bit more
I'll be.
I'll be decent because it did.
It was entertaining throughout,throughout the film.
I wasn't bored, nor was Isleepy.
That's what I mostly feel whenI watch most horror movies,
(07:40):
except for meditator, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But it was fun to watch.
I'm gonna give it a fuckingzero.
You want to?
Why I'm a choice anymore has tobe a zero.
No, I think I likerealistically.
If I was gonna give itsomething, it probably be like
40%.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's a zero in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
But I really would.
Didn't think it was as good asI remembered it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Um.
So the second one came out andonce again Did really well in
the box office, but didn't dowell Ratings.
Wise ron tomatoes gives it 24percent, the audience gave it 37
percent.
So they're okay.
Definitely a little moredisappointed.
What?
Speaker 2 (08:24):
do you think about the second?
Second one was a scary at all.
It was very action.
I think I saw more as likeDueling goes in action.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Action I just like, which is definitely a little
more different, but once again,wasn't blown away.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I like the shot.
The only the only thing I wasblown away was from the shuriken
when he threw that shit.
Well, I guess that was.
That was the only thing thattreat me yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Jeepers Creepers 3 Um Victor Salva's last Jeepers
Creepers film was like what thefuck came out in 2017.
Yeah, that that film wasabsolutely 17% Ron tomatoes 30%
audience score.
Nothing about that movie wasgood.
(09:16):
It was hard to watch.
It was hard to finish.
I'm not surprised.
It's really hard to find.
It's not on me like streamingplatforms.
You have to rent it, which isone of my deepest regrets right
Damn, did it hurt your heart?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
how much was rent?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
it hurt my heart especially have to find out
who's a pedo and?
And let's get, let's get thisout of the way the Jeepers
Creepers.
The Story is that there's thismonster comes out every 23 years
on the 23rd spring for 23 days,hunting and killing people, and
when he kills them not a very,not a new or uncommon theme,
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much like Freddy Krueger, or ifhe senses fear from you, then
he's kind of attracted to youand he kind of wants this thing
from you, right?
So, whether it's your eyes oryour liver, your heart or your
arms or whatever the fuck hetakes, he regenerates on his
body.
That that's it.
That's, that's the the core ofthe thing.
Now.
(10:15):
Jeepers Creepers 1, 2, 3 theydidn't make it like 23 years
after.
Each other was all kind of likethis Continuality of, like a
different story from this 23 dayperiod.
That, right.
The second, I think.
The first one, though, is likeno, I'm sorry, the second
Jeepers Creepers is Continue forcontinuity.
Steak the last one.
(10:35):
Because he gets kidnapped,right, he actually loses.
Yeah, he gets, he gets, he getsa whole, a health captive.
Yeah, he gets health captive.
And Jeepers Creepers 3 isdirectly after.
He takes fucking Justin long inJeepers Creepers 1.
That's where they pick up inJeepers Creepers 3.
Look, don't watch these movies,don't do it.
(10:57):
I'm just I'm telling youeverything.
That was the most interestingpart of Jeepers Creepers 3 is
when they start from JeepersCreepers that movie's absolutely
trash.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I was like, yeah, I was kind of surprised they took
it from there.
I was like yeah, I was thinkingbefore I started the movie like
does that mean that he escapedagain, even though you were
watching it?
And then you wanted to do thatshit.
I was, I didn't, I wasn't downfor that, for that story route,
but like, I gave it a try and Iregret it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, cuz they're not gonna go 23 years in the future
.
They could have gone 20 yearsin the past.
Actually, in the third moviethey kind of do do that.
They talk about some of hismurders 25 years ago.
But that's it, and that wholescene is is dumb, oh god, the
movie just think about the movieis frustrating, especially.
Once again, guys, I'm gonnakeep saying this until we
(11:49):
actually talk about it more.
This guy's a fucking pedophile,so he shouldn't even get the I
don't know the time of day, youknow, but let's not forget, not
directed by Victor Savo.
They tried to resurrect JeepersCreepers as a series.
Think that they'd be a goodidea.
They came out fucking JeepersCreepers reborn.
(12:11):
Directed by Timo Vura Sonsola Ithink he's French.
I could have butchered his name.
Honestly, bro, it was such awhole.
What do you think the broncenatal score was for two?
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Definitely one digit.
I'll tell you that I'll pullfour.
No, I'll put that's toogenerous, I'll put two.
Yes, tomatoes you didn't yousurprised me this time.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Of the few times, I will agree with my rating.
It would be zero.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, zero percent sounds great Fucking.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That movie was so odd .
They were like little thingsbro.
That didn't make sense, like ifyou have a low budget, which I,
which I don't know, if this guyI don't know how much money.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I could have till with all the CGI.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, I know that they grossed two million dollars
, which is not that good.
Um, actually, I'm gonna look itup right now.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I mean if their budget is below two million
dollars.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know that's how much they made in the right.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I'm saying like if they're, if they're, if they're
budget is on the Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
The Jeepers creepers reborn budget came out to around
five.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh shit.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, well, and and honestly I don't, I don't just
Stand because they did weirdthings like remember, like
they'd be driving in the car andthey would pull like the
background of the car as CG yeah, like you know, like back in
the day they used to like peopleused to drive and they'd pull
like a fake background on theback.
Is that cheaper than According?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
to somebody drive.
I don't know, but it looks bad.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It looks really bad stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It just doesn't make any fucking sense, but that that
movie truly was fucking.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh.
When they had a scene where theguy was pretending to eat a
chicken.
You remember that he took thechicken leg.
Yeah, oh man that's yeah, whatwas that?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
What was that?
I don't know.
I feel like there was no effort.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I feel like they, in the middle of the right, middle
of like direct directing themovie.
If again, just stop trying.
Yeah, what was worse?
The third or the or the reborn?
You stop answer that.
Are you gonna answer that?
The end?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Which is worse.
The third, yeah, the only thingthat makes a third worse is
that Victor salvo fucking, andwhen I continue to talk about
this guy, you're gonna realizewhy I fucking hate this guy so
much, even beyond the fact thathe's a pedo.
But if we're averaging all thescores that we gave Jeepers
Creepers, one, which is the onlyone we're gonna do, is the only
(15:11):
one that deserves to really betalked about.
Actually, a Jeepers CreepersSlick gave it a 54.
The original rating was a 46.
I would give it a 40 and thatlevels it out about 46%.
So you win round spados.
You get that.
Jeepers Creepers got 24%.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
What do you think?
Yeah, I give it like 20.
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Honestly.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
I think.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I didn't think it was much worse than the second one.
I'm gonna go ahead and give ita little definitely a downgrade,
though I was fairlydisappointed.
Yeah, so after calculating ouraverages, that would be at about
a 26%, so actually Higher thanwhat Ron tomatoes gave it as the
real feel for this.
But you know, just to go overthis again, ladies and gentlemen
(15:58):
, this is what we're gonna startdoing now.
We're gonna have the raw tomatoscore and then six gonna give a
score and I'm gonna give myscore.
We're gonna average thosescores up.
Real.
The real rating should be.
That's it.
I'm not gonna talk about Reborn, we agree zero, zero plus zero
plus zero.
Divided by fucking, anything iszero.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So infinite zeros, do-do-do-do buckets.
I can't say anything.
I think you said when we, whenwe finished watching, that's
actually the worst movie youmight have seen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
We're cracking up, cracking up on you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Do you mean that it was at the worst, was reborn,
the worst movie ever seen, ortop three?
I think so.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I can't think of a, you know, because even like
sharknado it was like that leastthey weren't trying to be a
good sharknado.
Whoever made sharknado is afucking I don't know genius.
They made a lot of money.
They made more.
Everybody was talking aboutpeople watching for fun.
It was a fun movie.
This, this movie, jeepersCreepers of Born was somebody
(17:05):
made it with intent to be good.
But let's, let's cut to thereal thing.
We're not gonna talk about themovie that much, because this
guy's a pedophile.
He doesn't deserve that fuckingattention.
We're gonna talk about fucking.
Victor salva was the director ofJeepers Creepers 1, 2 and 3 and
is a in the books, not anopinion, not a speculation a
(17:28):
villain a fucking villain, apedophile, and Along with them
we're also gonna talk aboutFrancis Ford Capola, who is the
director of the Godfathers 1, 2and 3, and also director of the
outsiders and Random, the uncleof Nicholas Cage.
I did not know that?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that was a big one.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Nicholas, this cage is last name, is not cage, it's
fucking capital.
I don't know if I'm saying thelast name right.
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, me neither.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
So, victor salva, how much research did you do on
this?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I read a story about him.
It was before I read a storyabout him.
He directed a movie beforeJeepers Creepers, clownhouse
yeah, that one, and that's whereit all started.
He like, yeah, I think Melissa,the 12 year old boy right,
because there was a child actorin that movie and From the
article I read, that's where,like, the allegations all
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started at and then for somereason, they still came to make
more movies.
So that happened.
That happened before JeepersCreepers.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah, he actually ended up working for Disney.
Yeah, they've worked for Disneyafter being a shit.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Even after the allegations and like yeah, there
was no, let's not call themallegations.
No, no, yeah, I know it's realand and, but I'm just saying
like after the after jail, afterjail.
After the controversy still gothired.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, after the country, I'm gonna give you the
full fucking story.
He did a movie us powder.
The movie is powdered fromDisney, but anyways, anyways.
So let's say the.
Everything I read about Victorsalva, about his like upbringing
, is a little weird becauseliterally like nobody, this
family has ever spoke publiclyabout Victor salva.
The only thing we know aboutVictor salva is the stuff that
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Victor salva is told himselfthat he was abused by a
stepfather, that his motherdidn't give a shit and that he
got made fun of Like crazy forbeing gay other than that did
well in school.
Everybody thought he was a greatartist, which I completely
disagree with, and he worked ata preschool.
That's how he gathered a lot ofhis money.
He worked in preschool, whichis like fucking pedophile number
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one thing to do, by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Fucking be around the things artists was he like an
actual like painter or was hejust like artists and like I,
like his artist isn't like afilm film maker, like artists,
isn't like he, you know, likehis teachers.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
According to him, his teachers praised him for being
a great storyteller.
According to him.
Yeah, anyways, the first moviethat he ever really made at home
, before he had anything, was amovie called Something in the
basement.
So he made a movie calledsomething in the basement 1986
and he actually submitted it tothe Sony AFI American Film
(20:07):
Institute home video competition.
One of the judges for thatcompetition was Francis Ford,
paula Wow Coppola, and that'show they met.
Fucking Victor South ended upwinning first place in the
fucking Sony AFI home videoCompetition and I think he came
in like third place in likeanother European thing you
submitted shit to and after thatFrancis Coppola gave him.
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Coppola Gave him money to makeclown house and that was his
first featured film.
For those that don't know,clown house is actually a
fucking Cold classic somehow,for like really really deep
horror it's classic fanaticsnever it's about, yeah, yeah,
clowns.
It's.
You know it has, like it's soeasy, once again not very
creative.
It's about three young boys,all under the age of 18, the
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youngest one being 12 years old,and they're home alone and
there's fucking three serialkiller clowns that escaped
prison, that fucking attack, allright, and throughout the movie
, a lot of weird shots.
They're definitely, like youknow, home with their shirts off
, whatever, whatever.
But the youngest actor for thatone because those three kids
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was young boy named Nathanforest winters and he met Nathan
forest winners in preschoolwhen he was six years old and he
was grooming him from six tillthey made that movie clown house
when he was 12 years old.
God damn, yeah.
So he, you know, as mostpredators, like it's a slow
grooming process.
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You know, like you meet them,you meet their parents, you know
you're there, you babysit, youcontinue to babysit and then you
start taking a mile andobviously, like the parents
appreciate having a friend whois kind of taking the stress off
a little bit, and then you gaintrust over, I mean, from the
age of six to twelve, which ishow he was when he did clown
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house.
That's six years of buildingtrust and grooming not only the
kid, but the parents you know hetried out for something in the
basement.
I think he was him and a wholebunch of the other preschool to
try for something in thebasement.
And Nathan forest winners saysthat's actually when he started
getting molested and touched byVictor salva.
So while they were filmingClownhouse, a whole bunch of
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people thought it was mad, weird, that fucking, literally in
between every break Big Tissabuwould have fucking Nathan
winners on his lap and theythought it was inappropriate.
And the whole time they wouldgo up to his mom and she would
be like no, it's fine.
And so finally it got to whereshe was like yeah, you know what
?
Like too many people are comingup to me saying that this is
kind of inappropriate, thisrelationship you have with my
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son.
So she said something and hebanned her from the set, saying
that like hey, there's nothingto worry about, but you can't
come to us anymore becauseNathan can't vote what, and yeah
, and then not only that, butthen Nathan had to start staying
in after going to his trailerto work more on the film he get
eventually, because at thispoint he's 12.
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He starts realizing, like now,that people are having
relationships and sexuality iskind of like something talked
about in school that, like thethings that these people are
doing with each other, victorSalva is doing to him and he's
like yo, this is weird.
I'm going to tell my mom.
He tells his mom and sheimmediately calls the cops and
they basically organize a bigsting operation.
(23:23):
They rate the trailer, theyrate his home and they find
bought child pornography.
They find homemade videos thathe the same camera he was using
to film clown houses, the camerahe used to film kids.
They found videos of himperforming oral sex on Nathan
Winters.
(23:43):
That's crazy, it wasn't yetthey found pictures.
Well, this wasn't likesomething that was like, oh, you
know, all the evidence got likefucking burned or whatever.
No, that wasn't the case.
Anyways, before I continue,there's like a interview and the
news that I found with NathanWinters and he kind of explains
everything.
So I'm actually going to playthat and we can talk about it a
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little after, but it's actuallypretty cool, not cool.
I'm going to fucking edit thatout.
It's, you know, it's fromhorses.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Now, no, man, you won't put that in no no, no, no,
what no way.
It's a right man.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm not going to cancel because nobody hears this
.
It's fucked up.
Shit.
That was crazy.
I'm going to make this a clip,but I'm just going to say it's
like higher.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
That shit's to me too , bro.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Obviously that shit's so funny.
Hold on, let me actually.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Man, as long as you apologize after you said it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, that wasn't.
Yeah, it wasn't cool.
Guys, it was.
It's not.
None of this is cool.
This is the fucking is.
I'm going to play it right nowfor you.
You ready?
So?
Speaker 2 (25:05):
yeah, right when they hear pretty cool, that's it,
I'm done, just exit out.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Instantly, instantly, fucking, instantly.
Well, this is cool.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It's just for the button.
Now tell me something.
Take us through the steps ofhow Victor Salva was held
accountable for molesting you asa child.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Let's see, it was a when he was arrested.
It was a sting operation Firstof all, and so, after we
finished up principalphotography for clown house,
because of the cameras are usedwere literally the ones that
George Lucas used for Americangraffiti, and so they're really
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old, outdated cameras and theywere extremely loud so every bit
of sound on that film had to bedubbed over, and so it was
basically a month of shootingand then a month of overdubs,
and it was right in between,like right in the first couple
days of doing the overdubs, thatthe police did the sting
operation and caught him just acouple of miles away from his
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house.
And then, I mean, they found,you know, like a pretty much a
kiddie porn den, just videotapesupon videotapes and photo
albums full of like boysmodeling underwear for you know
Macy's or series, plus picturesof countless little boys and all
sorts of just really reallydisgusting stuff was found, and
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Victor admitted to all of it.
He admitted to all of it untilthere was an attorney involved,
and Coppola is where theattorney came in, like that's,
that's where the money came fromfor the attorney, for Victor's
attorney was, so Coppola getshim this really you know,
expensive lawyer, and and thenit turns into where he you know,
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because the police already hadon file, on record him admitting
to all these things, because hewas arrested on 11 counts of
child molestation, including oilsodomy on a child under 14, you
know, oil copulation on a childunder 14, videotaping these
things.
And then you know severalcharges that had to do with the
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production of clownhouse andbeing abused during that
production.
So he of course retractseverything and the lawyers get
him to shut his mouth and, youknow, stop making their jobs
harder.
And eventually what happened wassome point Coppola filed a
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lawsuit against my family forfive million dollars for some
breach of contract or something.
And my lawyer called my parentsone day and said you know, the
appointment we had with Victor'sattorneys are not, it has been
(28:06):
rescheduled, it's been pushed totold tomorrow so you guys don't
need to come in today.
And so you know, we stayed homeand my attorney actually went
down and met with Victor'slawyers and signed up, you know,
wrote up a plea bargain and hadit signed and the plea bargain
dropped the six most severecharges, the ones that had to do
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with the production ofclownhouse and the abuse, and he
was convicted on five, the fiveleast severe charges are signed
a plea bargain of that and wassentenced three years.
And he maybe.
He was in jail for a short timewhen he was first arrested, but
after that he didn't go toprison.
(28:47):
He never saw another jail cell.
He went to a treatment facilityin Napa oh what a retreat.
Lovely Right, Right.
Yeah, he did 15 months, so I'msorry he had movie deals waiting
for him, you know.
Like he had is like you know,warm reception when he got out
(29:08):
of his treatment and was rightback to work, you know, shortly
thereafter.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
All right.
So Francis Ford Coppola steppedinto not only help him, but
then he sued you.
Yes, it was slime bag.
Are you kidding me?
He, this notable, legendaryHollywood director, stepped into
not only throw sand in yourface, but to help someone that
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had been arrested on unspeakablecharges.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Mm, hmm, yep.
On the freaking once the filmwas because I still had to go
and do all the overdubs.
So, after he was arrested, so Istill had a month's worth of
work at Coppola's house everysingle day for you know, eight
or nine hours every day for amonth.
Wow, where it's which time Iwas like blackballed, told I
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never work in the industry again.
Sure, you know, like all sortsof stuff, and you know, oh man,
yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, it's crazy, right.
That's incredibly frustrating.
I can't imagine the pain thefamily fell in him.
I just like fucked up, that'scorrupt, yeah well it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And you know what that means?
It means that this fuckingFrancis, yeah, yeah, francis
Ford Coppola is 100% a fuckingpedophile.
Yeah, francis is like 110%,like there's no doubt about it.
But yeah, he only served, yeah,13 months, 13 or 15 months from
a three year sentence and thenafter that he had worked on
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Disney and he eventually makesJeepers, creepers 1, 2 and 3.
And it's been on record ininterviews where he said that,
you know, he thought he was thevictim.
He was like those were thescariest ones in my life.
I was getting beat up becausepeople heard what I did.
Thank God that Francis FordCoppola was telling me that this
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was going to make me a betterartist.
Blah, blah, blah, um, andFrancis Ford Coppola stands by
that.
He like twists the narrativethat it is is very like it is,
it's true, where prison is notfor rehabilitation.
Prison is where people rot anddie, and that's kind of been a
problem with prison for a longtime, you know.
(31:32):
And he uses that against thepeople because he's like, oh no,
he needs to be rehabilitated,he's cured for all his things
and he's a great artist, blah,blah, blah.
And that's not the casewhatsoever, oh no, and there's a
lot of talking on the internetlike, oh, can you separate art
and the artists?
You know, I mean, this istalked with our Kelly's and his
(31:53):
songs and Michael Jackson andyou know his songs.
You know, you know that's notfully proven yet, but I don't
even know.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That, that, that that ideology depends on, like the
person.
I mean, if you're a victim ofthat individual and you hear his
art Musically or you think yousee it, that's gonna, it's gonna
hurt you.
You can't, you can't stand byby the art, separate artists by
the artistry, but like otherpeople, you know they can't cuz
they have nothing to do with him.
You know, like for our Kellyyeah, fuck, what are Kelly?
(32:26):
They say, like no matter what,you know, I mean, his music is
great, but they were the victimthey wanted they wouldn't be
saying that, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, so it definitely depends.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
A varies from a lot of individuals and a lot of
people have their differentperspective on it.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Before you even get into that conversation, let's be
real.
This fucking guy's not evenfucking talented like that.
Like this guy's not.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Not that good, I mean .
I mean, I could just tell fromhis other movies.
That's just not.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Even, even Jeepers, creepers, the whole Concept or
in the beginning of the moviewhere you know there's these two
people and they saw somebodydump a body and they got the
license plate down because thatperson got mad and like random
off the road.
That's not even original,that's.
That's a real life case.
It was inspired by something Iwas in an episode of unsolved
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mysteries in like 1990 when youknow Dennis DePew, a former
Michigan property Like owner,was driving by Florida and they
found somebody dumping a bodyand then they it rode, rage them
, they memorized the licenseplate and they called the cops
and they found out he was like.
That was not even original.
It's guys, not a genius in anysense, right the word you know.
(33:40):
But yeah, and this is you know.
I'm glad we decided to Reviewthe movie because otherwise we
never fucking know him bro andwe got to spread the awareness
to about this guy.
Yeah, this guy's.
We never would have known thatthis guy was.
It's crazy.
We got a we got to address his,his, his wickedness and Francis
(34:03):
Ford couple and both of that guyis that guy's a fucking If
equally as evil as this guy.
Yeah, so people should shouldbe aware.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
It's good that we're informative so people will know
forever To never support theseguys ever again for the rest of
the lives.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yo, we're weird and fucking.
I don't know.
He won't ever dare to makeanother movie, though I'll tell
you that one.
Oh, definitely neither.
Yeah, I don't think either ofthem.
I don't know about friends, Idon't know what he's up to,
let's see.
But if Victor Salva decided tomake a movie right now, he would
not make it.
Oh yeah, I don't think he'sdoing anything recent.
I mean that guy's pretty old.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Right there's his four couple.
Yeah, I would dizzy, Is he.
Is he like Clint Eastwood, ageGood?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
question Hopefully, dice.
Oh, he has an upcoming megalapolis.
Oh, I heard about that.
Yeah, watch that shit.
And architect wants to rebuildNew York City as the utopia
following a devastating disaster.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Isn't that based on the old movie?
Mega lapolis was like all thismovie right back in the day.
Is that like a remake?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, I think so, and the stars are right now Shia
LaBeouf, aubrey Plaza.
Hey right, I can't watch it,though dog Can't do it.
This guy's a fucking, actualreal life criminal.
I don't think it was a moviebeforehand, but he did write the
script in like the 1980s, oh,so it wasn't an old movie
because when I heard it it waslike let's see the one, the
black and white.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
AJ, I might be wrong, though I'll be super wrong.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Apparently, they started actually doing a
pre-production for the film withRobert Gennaro and Uma Thurman,
but it was all in New York andthen 9-11 happened and they just
can't do it.
Wow, yeah, anyways, that guy'sa fucking message society.
So, as great as that sounds,I'm not fucking watching that
shit, and I'm.
I'm not even gonna look upVictor Salva, because I'm
positive he's not doing a shitforever.
Good, I wonder if these peopleknow.
(35:50):
I wonder if Shia LaBeouf andAudrey Plaza know what the fuck
they probably don't, so whatthey probably do know.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
But they just got to do it for business and for money
.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now I mean, I don't think Shia LaBeouf or Audrey
Plaza both need to make any moremoney, desperately that they
got a fucking follow-up Pito.
I think it's just don't know,maybe it's a good ass story.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You just don't know, that could definitely be a huge
reason.
I mean, yeah, you mean theGodfather.
I give him that.
You know, that's.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Fucking fuck that guy and I have doesn't matter.
If you guys do want to find outmore about this whole Victor
Salva thing, I think there'sthis YouTube video, the case of
Victor Salva by dreading.
It was a really good video.
They talk about it in much moredepth than we do, that, as you
know.
But other than that, I haven'tseen that much information on
this.
I think all that informationjust came out on the latter end
(36:44):
of last year, so it's prettyrecent.
Other than that, you know, Idon't think there's much more we
got to say about people'screepers, but yeah for the next,
next.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh no, I was gonna say yeah, it's overall.
The franchise is not a goodfranchise.
I would say it's really not.
It's.
I would just see, just see thefirst one, if you want, really
want to, and then Just pretendit's happily ever after, if you
really want to you know, it'snot worth saying second.
Third is not continuity.
The characters not even cool.
It's really not worth it.
(37:15):
It's sincerely not worth it atall.
Like it's not even a good badmovie.
Like you know how there's badmovies that are good and you can
laugh at.
It's not these.
It's not at all, so don't wasteyour time true, it's very true.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
All right, what are you thinking about for next week
?
So?
Speaker 2 (37:35):
well, well, we're watching theaters.
We got to do the movies, youwatching theaters.
Oh my god, barbie's coming outthis week.
I think Barbie and open high.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Are you gonna forget about how?
You're gonna forget about open?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
I'm gonna stop this week, it's next week.
Oh, it's now.
Okay, it's not this weekend,it's next week.
They're coming out the same day.
Holy shit, primo, yeah, primo,I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Well, we'll discuss what's what's coming out for the
next episode.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Watch a movie.
Some theaters.
Yeah, we watched spider-verseand we watched the Flash, so
we'll do on them.
We haven't done some modernmovies in a while in little
shorts.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Little shorts.
I definitely think flash thisdidn't get the.
Well, you know people don'tlike DC right now and I get it,
but I think I was pretty goodman.
Michael Keen's Batman how canyou beat that?
That shit was like so nostalgic, yeah.
And and that action scene thatMichael Keen has has to be one
of the greatest Batman actionscenes has ever occurred in the
history of history.
(38:38):
Wait, which one there was many,the one where he, when he comes
down in the tower, what the only, honestly the biggest action
scene that Michael Keen has whenthey're saving Supergirl, when
they first get into the thing.
That scene was crazy bro.
We were losing our minds inthat.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
That shit was amazing.
It wasn't just pretty girlsamazing.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I don't know man, that's just pretty good, what's?
A better action scene, batmanaction scene than that better, I
mean.
I mean I think they're all thesame the dark night.
I mean they're all good,they're all enjoyably good.
I think I don't have anypreference, what's better or
worse, I'm gonna come back out.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Look see if I can find a clip, if I can find a
clip of that Batman fighting andI'm a re-show team, I'm like,
okay, yeah, that she was fire,that was good.
And they had that one reallyfunny scene where he moves.
We're like the young EzraMiller moves, the older I'm
sorry, barry Allen.
The young Barry Allen moves,the older Barry Allen and he's
like did you move me?
He's like, yeah, just a littlebit, and he starts throwing up.
(39:40):
That shows hilarious.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, that was generally funny.
They got me there Even the wayhe vomited was like Screaming.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
No, I didn't think that movie was that bad, but you
know DC has fucked up so muchit's, you know it's it's.
It's hard to get the trust backfrom the people who have gone
time and time again to watch amovie that they thought were
gonna be good and honestly, Iwasn't a big fan of even the
ones that did well in theaters.
I wasn't a big fan of WonderWoman, I definitely wasn't a big
fan.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Aquaman was, was the 1984 was like yo, I wish that
something, something, something,and I wish of that in this.
They had to do it like ourwishes, right yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
do wishes and and she beats him by monologuing
they're gonna beat his ass.
She monologues him, it's and.
And then he's just like you'reright and he Was in there, right
he was.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
He was a villain.
I know there's two villainsthere was the cat lady and then
there was him.
I could have stolen his pet.
Yeah, I like Pedro's role, oh.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, I mean, look, I love Pedro Pascal, so I'm not
gonna dog him that much, or Ican tell you that movie was not
that With the script, I mean thewriting was just yeah and, oh
my god, batman vs Supermanwasn't good, the best.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Superman was epic, it was all right, it was okay.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
The best thing was the fucking Batman action scene
in the warehouse.
Oh, Bro he's literally justScrambled, scrambled eggs for
brains to like ten people in arow, bro.
There's this one scene inBatman vs Superman, bro, and in
(41:30):
the fighting shed scene where,if you haven't seen it, yeah, I
don't even know go watch rightnow.
It's, though, it's the bestscene, the movie where he
fucking battering Not batteringhe be grappling hooks a box and
he throws it in the corner likedirectly hits the head of one of
the henchmen, yeah, and then hegoes flying and then crashes
(41:52):
against the wall.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
That guy is so, yeah, that guy is the most dead one,
how heavy that box was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, that was well.
When I saw shit live, I like Ifell back.
I was like no way, guys.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
People in the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Thing, but that's brutal.
Like there's murdering people,shooting somebody with a gun,
and then there's like I'm gonnathrow this big-ass Box hundred
pound box cornered to your head.
You know it's kind of likegetting shot sucks.
We're sort of stepping on aLego.
You know, that's like a certainpain.
I feel like that box was just areally cruel way to kill
somebody.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
No, man, that was great man.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
I didn't, I never seen.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Aquaman, but I want to see it.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Aquaman's not that good bro.
The best thing about Aquaman isthat fucking William de Frenzen
it.
William, my friend will am myfriend William de friend.
Will him the friend bro.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't know you was.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That's just what else .
Black black he's like veryminor.
Oh, black Adam was okay, itwasn't that bad.
The Justice Society was reallycool in black and got him.
That was the best part of themovie and I think I feel like
that didn't, that didn't getenough, like.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Sam, I didn't see that, yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
The first she's in was alright.
The second, she jam, wasalright.
No, those weren't that goodeither.
I don't know.
That didn't deserve any type ofloose.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
You lose on the second one.
That's great.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Honestly, I didn't finish watch a second one, so I
can't say you know, yeah, andyou know what it is.
I just can't take.
I can't take Shazam serious.
I don't like him as a superhero.
It's.
He's not very.
He's not super me.
I don't know what his powersare.
Yeah he's like all right,except fucking.
If you cover his mouth beforehe turns into Sam, you fucking
(43:50):
one.
Yeah, that's great, one second.
Let me just look in the then.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So Then I'm gonna make like a shazam versus black
Adam movie.
Is that never gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I think that is something that they were.
James Gunn got it.
They were leaning towards yeah,but James comes up, do it.
I think he's scrappingeverything, though Honestly, I
mean I can't play, yeah, but uh,just a society in in black Adam
.
Have you seen black Adam?
Speaker 2 (44:23):
No oh.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
They're really cool.
Dr Destiny is amazing.
Or you know?
Destiny?
No, don't fuck, what have you?
He's great, played by PierceBrosnan.
Um, hawk man, who should belame, is fucking cool as fuck.
Yeah, and he's, he's cool man.
They did a good job with him.
Adam smash your cyclone arealso in there.
(44:46):
Just society, you know one ofthe lesser known DC things and
they did a good job with that.
So black Adam, not too bad.
What else?
Well, the movies.
The Justice League movie wasfucking trash.
Zack Snyder is not good.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Did you see the director?
I think I had a director cut.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, I watched the directors cut too and it was
still not good.
It was more disappointing to meThen.
Not only was it not good now,or just so, what's the word like
?
So Average, that Like?
(45:24):
It means nothing to me.
I'm like indifferent.
I'm I'm frustratinglyindifferent when I watched it
and now I watched a four-hourversion and it was just a waste
of time.
Zack Snyder is not that goodlike Zack Snyder.
300 was great watchman, prettycool, but a daughter, the dead,
fucking one of my favoritezombie movies in one time.
Second punch other than that.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Man of steel is okay, that's.
It was like.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
I was like that.
She was epic yeah, it reallywas like but it was like too
much like I was.
It was like one of those movieswhere I wasn't even sure if
Superman was a good guy.
Buddy on the movie she's supermany use you murdered.
I mean like Buildings weregetting collapsed during these
fights.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Are you gonna use?
He's come out with another one,though, called rebel moon.
It says when a colony on theedge of the galaxy find itself
threatened by the armies of atyrannical region by the Sirius,
it dispatch a young man withthe mysterious path to seek out
warriors from neighboringplanets.
To help them take a stand.
Screenplay and directed by, andcinematography and produced by
(46:40):
yeah, and has.
Anthony.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Hopkins, oh yeah, yeah, I don't give a fuck, bro
Zack Snyder, you, you're notgetting me again, bro, I watched
too much.
You've disappointed.
You know I'm a Batman fan,you're a Batman fan and you, you
.
Yeah, we're huge, huge, andmaybe that's a big reason we
like flash.
But I think everybody can agreeMichael Keaton's amazing.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean you should watch it.
I mean was just overall, batmanwas the highlight of that movie
, literally.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
In the movie, like a large majority of the movie.
So it's not even like, oh,that's the only good part.
Like no, that.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
That's why the movie is good but you Carry the whole
movie should have been.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, that's the point of failure.
They should have been the flashmultiverse that's.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That's what the name should have been.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Yeah, but Not what he did to Batman in the Justice
League movies.
Over good boy to me he was justthat may was so not important
and so lame.
Honestly, yeah, it was.
It was fucked up because if youcan make Captain America who is
so much lame, or then ThenBatman, if you make America good
(47:59):
and important and badass in theAvengers movies, you could make
Batman relevant and good in theJustice League movie you could.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Agree, let me see discography Just coming.
My bad is Cattle are like easy,yeah I.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Well, yeah, I mean yes.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, he has rebel.
Won't coming out as AnthonyHopkins.
That's like this Can you see,sucker punch.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, it's awesome.
I thought those are right.
The actual is kind of cool, butit was like a knob, very like,
and they was.
You know it's deep, but Wasthat army of dead trash movie?
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Oh man, army of the dead, it's on Netflix.
Yeah, I was that, was itNetflix?
But?
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I don't know if I wanted to watch you.
Watch it.
Watch it.
Watch it right now.
Watch after this 67 whoa.
Don't know the dead, though.
That's my favorite.
That's one of my favoritezombie movies.
Was that really good?
Hell, yeah, good.
It's a dream.
(49:04):
Zombie apocalypse you get stuckin the mall to survive.
That's cool.
That's the only down to the gun.
Right, there's a land of thedead.
Yeah, no, there's no likecontinuation up.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
The cool is though.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
All right, yeah, you got got.
He's got a.
I mean my scar Zach's night.
You got a got a.
You know rebel moon man.
So watch out for the newepisode of round potatoes on
rebel I'd rather fucking, supukuFucking.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
If I ever see Zach's night, he better fucking.
Then real men, decide me to myfucking face bro.
He doesn't be the first thinghe says to me.
They're fucking go mend theside of me.
Sorry for everything I've doneto you and Batman fans across.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
What if he cast you on one of his movies?
He's like you know, I see uspotential as what as uh, I don't
know he gave you a lot of moneyfor being an extra.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
If you make, a male, montoya, I'm in, I'll kill that
role, okay?
Oh man, she's the currentcommissioner in the current, so
you'll work with them.
I Well, I work.
I mean, will I work with them?
I'm just a peon.
Will I work with them?
It depends.
After read the script, I'm notgonna sell myself.
Okay, At least I'd hope so.
Who knows if he comes up to me.
Really good.
(50:24):
That's what I'm saying.
That's tough stuff for me tosay no to that.
Guys, I'm broke.
I'm broke.
Let's say you know so, fuckingthis guy and fucking Shia
LaBeouf, making you know this.
France Capella movie, francisFord Capel movie, coppola movie
(50:48):
it's not like that.
They don't need that money.
I need money.
I.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
Need money, you'll say go money site to him after
after he gives you the hundreddollar, a hundred million dollar
contract.
Sorry, I said all those thingsto you, zach.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'll be like no, zach , I stand by, just yeah unless
he unless the contract says Iapologize.
In which case, yes, fucking.
Raw tomatoes episode.
Raw potatoes episode.
Fucking, only notes one I'mlike yo, everything I said about
the fucking cinematic Don't.
I did say, though, 300.
That's a fucking, that's abanger.
You know don't of the deadbanger.
(51:24):
I'm not saying this guy's nottalented, I'm just saying that
he doesn't know shit about DCComics.
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
So that's why he's coming rebel moon.
I don't know what that based on.
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (51:36):
Stop it.
So if you say rebel moon onemore time and we don't get
sponsored by them, At least he'sstarting new man.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Fuck, that's verse.
I'm so glad the the end of theair was now and the end of the
what's my Snyder's Snyder's era.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Snyder's Snyder versus over baby James Gunn town
Suicide squad.
Love James Gunn suicide squad.
That's one of the.
That's the best DC movie.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
You don't like the original one right at all.
Really, you're not like WillSmith.
Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
I love.
I know he's all fucked up rightnow.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Like fully recovered.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Recovered.
You know, I mean you never didthe right.
First of all, he's rich, isn't?
It doesn't matter, he won.
I'm just saying I don't knowwho he is as a person, but he
seems cool.
But I love him in movies.
I love him a movie.
Speaker 2 (52:27):
I actually like the first Suicide Squad.
I didn't think.
It was horrible, like peoplewere like oh my god, this is the
worst shit ever received.
And then I'm watching theending was the ending.
I remember the ending.
They build them out right likeJerry, let it'll build.
They got built out, but howthey quenched some shit.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, yeah, and like it was, like the.
The slow-mo scene was so slowmo that it it was.
It was.
It was too much, bro.
I remember literally watchingin theaters during the slow-mo.
I was like this should stop me.
I want to go home.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
I'm ready to go home now.
Yeah, anything, it was that bad, I Enjoyed it.
It was alright man.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Will Smith is dead shot, that's.
Yeah, that was a great cast.
He did great, I agree.
Um, so he did great, but so didfucking egress.
So I mean, I mean you want tomake a character cool cast him
is black, hey, I mean.
Speaker 2 (53:34):
I'm in.
Did you like polka dot man?
He was the main reason why thestar fell down you contributed a
lot.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Oh yeah, I mean I was a match.
I was a match that's like realI.
I read the comics.
I'm a fan.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
Seriously, they did a really great job, like all the
characters are well-written.
I'm so glad the oh yeah, theywere so unique.
I like them.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
the rat catcher too, and you know she was all David,
david dash Malekian I thinkthat's how you pronounce the
last name who plays polka dotman and also is in the dark
nights.
Um, really you?
Speaker 4 (54:20):
know kind of has like that creepy.
Speaker 1 (54:22):
Yeah, he's using the dark nights, the.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Christopher.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
Nolan.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
He plays is like the unstable guy who keeps escaping
from fucking Arkham asylum.
I'll, I'll, I'll show you.
Clip it either way.
Look this guy.
If you guys don't know he is.
I'm a photo picture.
I mean, higher up talk wasn'tfor the way this guy looks.
It's like either I can't tell Icall him rat man or man rat,
because it's either a manturning into a rat or a rat
(54:51):
training.
I can't tell you which is which.
I can't tell you which side.
I don't know which is happening, what process of the button
button is happening.
But it's true, but he did agreat job of spoke about man.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
What was that?
I want to look it up right here.
Oh, prisoners yeah, his role inprisoners was amazing.
Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, I like, I like a lot of great movie.
It's a good movie good villain.
Speaker 2 (55:16):
For sure, play the shit out of that guy good movie
any who.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Ladies, gentlemen, thank you for joining us on
another episode of fucking realrom potatoes, where we rate rom
tomato scores and then find outthe average for the real feel.
We had a.
We had a good time.
We didn't, we didn't, we didn'tknow this is gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
Yeah, it was half Jeepers.
Creepers have talking shitabout Scott Snyder, have it was
Jeepers gears, but really it wasjust.
Speaker 1 (55:49):
Don't ever watch, you was, here was again.
Don't ever support France forcapital.
Don't ever support Victor salvaepisode.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
You and get ready for the snack Snyder movie.
Yeah, december, stop it.
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