Now and Then (30th anniversary)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome to another episode of Release Date, Rewind, and Welcome
home listeners. It's the week of Thanksgiving here in the
US and many of us are going home to see
family and friends, maybe going back to where we grew up.
And whether you're doing that or not, welcome home to
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you're family, right. It's Mark J. Parker aka MJP, your host,
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Today, I have my longtime friends back on the show,
four of us to match the four friends in this movie,
and we're celebrating another memorable one from nineteen ninety five
that just turned thirty years old last month. It's another
stellar female led cast and it's a heartwarming story from
our youth called Now and Then. So grab your friends,

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wear your seventies or your nineties outfits, and if you'd
like to watch or rewatch this movie before continuing, you
can currently rent or buy it on various platforms, borrow
from your local library, or do what I did and
find it on some random site. All right, boys, we're
girls and warmers. Let's pretend it's summertime, back in the day,

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and let's get on our bikes because it's time to rewind.
All right, everybody, we have already been chatting for half
an hour, you know, stealing the cheat, talking about death

(02:01):
and ghosts and how's it basically basically like talking about
everything now and then girls talk about so it's very fitting, actually,
But the Hometown Loves are back on the pod. The
Hometown red Rover, Red Rover Hometown Loves come over. We
have in order of appearance today, Sarah Metiquall is back,
Melward is back, Kitchen is back. They all were together

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with me. We all were together almost not even a
full year ago, little women, and now we got another
girl power movie. So thank you all so much for
being here to talk about now and then how's everyone doing?
Sarah's about to pop? When's the do date?

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Sar December twenty sixth, But we are manifesting early December.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Nice, pretty good, It's definitely different.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
It'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
It's gonna work days early.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Yep, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
You really want your baby to be on your birthday
as well. Yeah, imagine some moms were really like that,
insane that like, no, I really want my baby to
have my same birthday. I'm sure there's some out there.
Maybe Sarah is one of them.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Are you one of those insane moms?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Were like, I wouldn't mind it, but it's more I
just want her to get out, you.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Know, yeah, be done.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yes, I think that would be a little selfish with it.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
I'd be like, wait a minute, this is my day,
Like I'm making you.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
I deserve a day. Every other day is your day.
I made you.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay, ladies, I have a question for all of you
that they bring up in the movie. I figured this
was a nice way to start our chat. The question
is from the Cosmopolitan quiz. Okay, okay, yep, I want
to hear your answers. The quiz is your idea of
foreplay is A A candle lit dinner and a moonlit
walk on the beach, B making out on a bear

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skin rug at a local mountain cabin very specific, B
watching a sexy movie or or D all of the above,
or as ROBERTA. Christina Ricci chimes in, E, none of
the above, so let me know if I need.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
To repeat right for answers only, So A, B, C
or D let me know if you need any repeats.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
But I'd love to hear you know, Kit, maybe since
you were excited to take this quiz, do you want
to go first with your.

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Anteve instantly thought of it? Yeah, I mean I want
to give the like d all of them?

Speaker 7 (04:31):
You would?

Speaker 8 (04:32):
You would?

Speaker 6 (04:34):
I mean, no, none of them? Where's they don't describe
for play at all? None of those things from making
you ready for It's like those are dates.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Maybe maybe maybe b making out on the bearskin rug.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
At a local actual.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, you're getting someone watching a sexy movie. Now, I'm
curious is the sexy movie like is it horn or
is it like you know, a very r rating, like
you know, like nine and a half a week?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, that's what I was going.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
I was like twenty eight weeks later or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Way kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
What about you, Melt, which one would you choose out
of these any?

Speaker 5 (05:18):
I'll do them all?

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's oh okay, all right, yep, all the above? How
about you, Sarah? All the above?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I mean, okay, present in your current leave me alone.
But I would say probably like making out on the
bearskin rug, that's me. I think I would probably do
the most for me. I'm not big into porn. And
what was the first one walking on the beach?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
A candle at dinner and a moonlit walk on the beach.
But yeah, I mean that's not really four play. That's
just a really nice game.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, Listen, it depends how well I know the guy,
because I'm not going on the beach in the dark
with someone I've just met. I and none of us
should be girl.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah, danger, it's becoming Yeah, like who is the man
I'm walking with?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
You're in Vandersloot?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, like are we in the room?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Yeah? Fantastic, so true.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, honestly, Genie Garovola should have stepped into like girls
this quiz. You need to you need to really think
harder about all these these answers, right, Yeah, well great, everybody.
I love that we played that cos my answer for
for play, I mean, god, uh, I'm really curious about
this sexy movie. I want to know what kind of

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sexy movie. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Is it like Brad Pitt removing clothing or is it
like show Girls? Is it wild things? I mean, what
kind of sexy movies you know? So you know, I
don't know, I'm drawn to that just because there's a mystery.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, those are also like all really good movies, like
I'll know, it's not even about sexy, Like show Girls
is hilarious and fascinating.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And I'm fascinating and kind of sad and watch that.
I finally watched this for this pod a couple of
months ago, and wow, what a ride, What a ride.
It's really it's fairly something else. It is, adding it
to my list, I think.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So it's a cultural touchstone to you want to know
it you really honestly, Yeah, I feel like everyone should
see it once and I don't know if I ever
need to see it again.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, but it's something something.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's it's amazing, amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That almost like John Waters, like it's like a level
of camp that is how funny.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm wearing my can you see it? I'm wearing my
Melanie Griffith John Waters. She was in this film Cecil
Be Demented, and so they like him anyway. Yeah, one
of her one of his you know, later films more
recent but exactly Yeah, it's so campy and strange and
very beautiful, very sparkly, and so many boobs. I couldn't
believe how many boobs are just out. It's pretty amazing.

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But anyway, let's let's focus on some family content. Everyone,
let's dial it down. Let's be very PG. So we're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
That you strapped them down.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh my god. I remember first seeing this and being
so confused and enthrall. I'm like, wait, girls, do that?
Did you guys ever tape down your boobs?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Please?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
I was teeny, I to my bra Yeah, I was
putting the Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
I was like, oh, this is more realistic. Yeah, it
makes me look like a spice girl, like. I was
doing it specifically for the reason Steenie was doing it.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Missus Winter, the costume lady from our most, gave me
pads to put in my broth because she said, what
God has forgotten, we fill in with cotton.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Wow, it's not for a show.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
She reached out and was like, I see that you're lacking.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
She's like for midterms.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
He's like, it's your senior year and you just finished Susicle,
And she's like, now that you are done with high
school theater, please please follow what I've taught you.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I heard you're going to college in New York.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
But yeah, so we of course if listeners maybe listened
to Little Women, But we all know each other from
our hometown, much like these four girls are girls teeny, Roberta, Samantha,
and Chrissy Crazy of course Chrissy. They all are from Shelby, Indiana.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Truth or dear Truth?

Speaker 7 (09:35):
Are you happy?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Am I happy? That's a good question.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
I'm just realizing that I've spent my entire adult life
trying to recapture the way I felt that the summer
of nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Let me set the scene for you all. I want
to jog your memory. This is what was going on,
and man, there was a lot going on. We forget.
Nineteen ninety five was a time. Okay, on the news side,
you all are going to love this. Maybe you already
know from just your extent of knowledge in the crime genre.
No earlier in October of that year, October third, I believe,

(10:07):
was the day that OJ was found not guilty. So
just a few weeks before this movie. Yeah, more than
one hundred and fifty million people watched the Verdict. Any
anything you guys want to say about OJ about that time.

Speaker 5 (10:19):
Okay, I can remember the car chase. I know where
I was, of course.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Oh yes, that was a big deal that year.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, my mom kept me home to watch the Verdict.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I love that because you were like seven, right first. Yeah,
we were children, I mean we were all we were. Yeah,
it was it was a thing. I feel like out
of this group, I probably was the least aware. Like
I remember the car chase, but I was just like, oh,
something's going on. So I feel like this group, you
and your families were probably much more. I just I
didn't really care. I was like, what's on time?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
They didn't.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
But Angela Lipsy shout out to my neighbor when I
was a little kid, she was two years older, and
she was like watching it, so I came over. I
do remember seeing it on our TV in Pennsville, like
a little bit of the Bronco. But it was because
Angela Lipsy was like, oh, Chase being like oh, Chase
on the run, and it was like.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Who and what like orange, Sure, yeah he's on the run.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Like no, my refrigerator is not running, Angela, I'm not
going to catch it, but yeah I do. I didn't know,
but this is is this also around the time of
Princess Diana.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
I feel like that was a little later, okay.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Probably right around there. Yeah, that was big. I remember a.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Mother, Teresa died within like the week. I remember being
like two beautiful souls.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Wow, what was that?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
I mean you know, I know, I know.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
I was like, yeah, different, we can we can discuss
the moment, we can unpack, we could unpackage she didn't
do good things.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
But yeah, no, I did not know my mother unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Take you to school and how Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
That's the headline people will take from this, from this
conversation that.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
There's a reason she didn't have a baby made after her.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
Let's say that's that's one hundred percent right.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Oh my god, I saw, you know the meme that
was going around.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
I know we can delete this, this might but where
it was like I hate gay Halloween because what do
you mean?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Oh yeah, what do you mean your princess ay? Maybe
in the revenge.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Didn't have that one.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I had the Princess Diana.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
One. Yeah, the purple one. I didn't have it in address,
but I we my parents.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Were any who's actually worth any money?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I think some not?

Speaker 6 (13:00):
Oh no, maybe maybe maybe when that's like the early
It's definitely not mine, but maybe one of the earlier
probably not.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
There's so many of them, why would any of those
be worse money?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I know they almost they almost made too many, right,
I know they needed to be like a real limited edition,
which I mean they said they would.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
They will forever. I will just always, always always associate
any babies with Carl Sternegger.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Oh c J.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Like his like legit name. I was like, I.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Was Zach Califas or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah, we're like, oh, the guy that that designed them,
the original man, Carlin.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Carl, I know that's his name, but Carl.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Name, Yeah, Carl James probably something like that, or wasn't he.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
That's why I was maybe made the old choice to
name a child Carl June and like expect that to
not to be like we're calling him c J so
that no one makes fun of him.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I'm like, they're gonna find out.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I mean, I grew up with him, so I always knew,
like first day of school or whenever there was a
new teacher, his name is Carl.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
That's fun. I mean I should know. I was. We
are fourth cousins, which is still crazy to me that
we are related. Yeah, yeah, isn't it just neighbors? You
would think like, okay, so.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Like a great great great great, yeah we.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Chair some great someone way up there will be right back.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Hey, Kenny, where's the softball game?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Kennel's field.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's gonna be all boys, So what are we waiting for?

Speaker 9 (14:51):
That was the summer when everything started to change.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
I was like, the soundtrack was my personality for quite
some time. This track in a tape and like played
it wherever I was.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
They must have spent so much money on this soundtrack, right,
it's so good. And what's so good about it is
it really feels like it's part of the scenes. You know,
many of them. They're singing these songs. You know, we're
like right, yeah, So I love that it is truly
ingrained in the story. It's not just like all right
and post we'll add like you know. These were the

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top songs at the time, just in the top ten.
I won't name all ten, but the number one song
was Mariah's Fantasy of course, Sweet Sweet Fantasy. Number one,
Gangster's Paradise, Kiss from a Rose, and a song in
this movie was in the top ten. A quintessential like
mid nineties tune that always makes me think of morning
aerobics at Baker Elementary. As I lay me down.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Duzy B Hawken, what were you.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Saying, Oh, I wish No it's a base in this movie. No,
but as I lay me down, it's such a like
I love that amazing, amazing case. Yes, so that was
in the house. So what a perfect I mean, what

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her name was, Sophie B. Hawkins. I believe, what a
time for her top ten song in these movies and shows.
I mean, now, Sophie, are you out there? I don't
know what she's up to, but hopefully, yeah, she's just
I mean, hopefully we gave her some residual penny for
watching this movie somehow. Yes, since we're all theater people,

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I'll quickly tell you what was pretty interesting on Broadway
the day before this movie came out, which was October
twentieth ninety five. Carol Channing was in Hello Dolly the Revival,
which I just feel is like such a big thing
for her. Like when you think of Carol Channing, her
Hello Dolly is like one of them, right. So that
revival had just opened on Broadway. For some reason, I
thought that was like decades earlier. I did not know

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that was nineteen ninety five, and I literally might jaw dropped.
I had no idea. Maybe you guys knew this. But
also at the same time there was a Broadway musical
version of Victor Victoria starring Julie Andrews, who was, of
course in the movie. I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Do you guys have any I had no idea.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yeah, and it was a success. I mean it was
like a thing. I mean to bring her back. So
I was like, whoa, I somehow did not know any
of that. So right, oh, my gosh, and she in
the in the stuff I was looking up. She even
said like she purposely pulled to Katherine Heigel, or Katherine
Heigel pulled up Julie Andrews. I didn't know this. She
took her name out of any of the Tony running

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that year because she wanted the focus to be on
her co stars. She already had all the awards love
from the movie.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
So that's sweet, that's yes, she's our queen.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Right real quickly, TV Wishbone had just premiered. Oh yes,
she was.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
A celebrity crash. I used to sure.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
And goosebumps, which I just talked about. That was about
the premiere a week after this, so that was really fun.
And lastly, other popular movies at the box office, so
this opened at number two. Number one was Get Shorty,
which I still have never seen. I feel like, oh yeah,
anyone here seen you know, yeah, John Travolta, Gene Hackman. Yeah, yeah,
it was a big deal. That was popular. Seven with

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Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, sad Antonio Bendiras was really becoming
a thing because he had assassins with Sylvester Stallone and
talk about a sexy movie if you ever if it's
ever on, watching it, I'm sure it's terrible, but it's
with Rebecca de Mornay. Never talked to strangers. It's more
your film. But I remember watching that on cable and

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the sex means I mean they're up at a fence.
Bo I mean, so talk about a sexy movie. Yeah,
if that's on, sure, yes, okay, right. Those movies were
about as was, you know, some wholesome movies like how
to Make an American Quilt with Wanona, The Big Green,
remember The Big Green, the soccer movie Disney.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
No, yeah, that ring about not seeing it?

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, So those soccer.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
Wait, I didn't have Disney, so maybe I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Well, that was in theaters, so I mean, you know,
like with it was basically a Sandlot reunion. A lot
of the boys were imber, right, Yeah, so that was
what was going on. But now here comes now and then?
So I know, I normally ask, you know, what's this
movie about? But it's pretty obvious, and you know there's
a bunch of us here. So instead I want to
ask each of you who is your favorite character in

(19:41):
this movie? And to add a little extra layer. It
can be the child version or the adult version if
you know. So technically we have eight or more if
you want to include the supporting characters. But who is
your favorite character? Who do you love watching the most
in this movie? Let's go with who do you think

(20:02):
has seen this movie the most in this group? I
feel like Mel, I feel like you might have seen
it the most. I'll go with you first, Mel.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
I'm many because I watched it. I used to watch
it all the time.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, I feel like you and I have talked about
this movie a lot over the years.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
I didn't get a chance to rewatch it for this
I now I really.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Was all right, well, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Well bye.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I used to really love well.

Speaker 10 (20:31):
I think teeny is really funny, but I think probably
I was gravitated towards Samantha Sam.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
Ye.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
They both the adult and kid versions Demi and Gabby.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Absolutely, yes, Sam is very much our lead. You know,
it's funny because rewatching, because the last time I saw
this was five years ago. I seemed to watch it
like every like big anniversary. She's just so moody. I
feel like you're not as moody. You know, ELDT comes out,
you know, versions a little a little more, you know,
but h but no, absolutely no. Sam is great. She's
very thoughtful and she's a writer. Are you writing more,

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by the way, Mill, are you working on your story? Okay?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
I need to.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
I need to. I have a lot up here. But
since I talked to you about that one day, I
was writing.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
No, Okay, well you'll catch up.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
You'll get My brain doesn't literally all the time.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
If I talk about him, I'm like, well, I'm like
applying to this and I'm like setting up casting sites
and I'm like and my brain goes like cool.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
And we talked about it, so we put it back.
Now we can have a snack.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
And Moore as Samantha, don't be afraid to take a plunge.
You might surprise yourself.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
She's back, and we brought him. I think also because
I want to be a writer so badly. I always
also was really oh, yes, I found that character appealing,
like I would want to be her.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, I do. I love how thoughtful she is and
she's got like family stuff going on. She's one of
really the out of the four, there's really only a couple,
which we'll get into. There's really only a couple that
we really are like peeling back the layers to look
at their family life, you know what I mean. And
that makes sense for time. You can't get into everyone's
like nitty gritty. But yeah, she's got some really interesting

(22:17):
things going on, and I do love her stuff with
Who's He Crazy? Pete the old guy, which basically feels
kind of like a rip off to Home Alone, you know,
the creepy neighbor who's actually a good guy. Right.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think young teeny is my favorite.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
Yeah, but Laura, she's definitely a relief.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, she's fine. She's funny.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Laura Birt and Melanie Griffith as teeny, you.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Are a sexual magnet attracting men from the four corners
of the world. It's interesting though, that you say you
feel like sam is the main cat. I mean, I
know she's the narrator, but I feel like in her
telling the story, Roberta is actually.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Okay, okay, you think so, that's just the.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Way I have always perceived it, Like she's she's the narrator,
she's an important voice, but I always kind of thought
the story was really Roberta's.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, that's yeah. They both to me feel like even
though thora Birch teeny has such great stuff to do, yeah,
it feels mostly it's like Samantha and Roberta, you know,
have the most to kind of go through, right, Yeah. Actually,
and Christina Ricci was, which is pretty amazing. It was
like the I do love that this movie credited the
kids first because I feel like a different movie even

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though the adults aren't in it as much. Of course,
it's mostly the kids, we know, right, but a different
movie would put like Demi Moore, you know, Melanie Griffith,
like they're first, but Christina Ricci's first, so they really yeah.

Speaker 10 (23:41):
Right, storyline, I think I remember the most, maybe he's
so sad.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes, of course she's really she's got a lot to
do with grieving. And also she's got such fun stuff
with the boys, you know, and and like we said,
the boobs. I mean, she's got some really like she's
got some really interesting moments that stick in mind immediately
when you think of now and then you know, plus
some great outfits. I love that striped shirt she wears
when she beats up the boy.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
So good.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Oh god, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Christina Ricci and Rosie O'Donnell as Roberta.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You're a woman on the verge. She's like a volcano
ready to rupt.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
It's so fun.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Yeah, well we get to it, but I do have.
I just learned this fun fact about the movie and
that character specifically.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yes, save that for a minute, mal because I want
you to tell it, because I just learned that too.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Kit.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
What about you? Your favorite character is?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
It is really really hard to say because growing up,
I growing up, my mom instantly was like your Samantha,
you're a brune Because my mom was like, you're a
brunet girl whose parents are divorced. I was like, it's
not the same, Like he was left when I was
really tiny. But she's like, you're and my mom always

(24:56):
and I thought it as a kid, my mom always
wanted me to be a writer.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
She was like, you you're.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
Right, You're my little writer. You tell stories. I was like,
I am a beautiful actress and I will win awards.
Be so I wanted desperately to be seen as teeny,
and I knew I was seen as more of a Samantha.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
And then I also really did relate to Roberta because
I played softball constant. I loved playing softball.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
And would have punched anyone who said that girls couldn't
play soball. But it's now growing up, I realize how
similar to Samantha I really probably even at the time,
was like reading books in my bed and a little
bit like, uh, that's maybe not there, but a little

(25:47):
bit like melancholic for a kid, like a little bit
like yeah when she was like yeah you When he
Brendan Frasier's like parents don't know much, She's like, yeah,
you got that right.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
She swears during it. I can't remember what the line
is exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
She says. She says no shit and he looks at her, right.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Uh huh. All smoke their cigarettes.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Tampons you know, it's funny how influential this movie and
now like rewatching it, I'm always like, oh wow, Like
I just wonder how much of this rubbed off on us.
I mean, it's also like what every group of friends
probably does. But it is interesting because maybe not a
lot happens per se in the movie. It's kind of
just like Slice of Life. It's coming of age. It
truly is like even in like stand by Me, which

(26:35):
this movie was compared to. With the boys, you know,
like there's there's still oh you have, oh, mal check
it out. You know, they're actually if you if you want,
I think they're going to Red Bank, New Jersey, but
the surviving cast members are on tour because they're coming
up to New Hampshire and I kind of want to go.
But it's like Jerry O'Connell, it's Corey Feldman and Will Wheaton.

(26:56):
They're coming back like to see the movie and to
to talk about it.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
You know, I don't know if I'd ever want to
be in a room with.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Isn't he the one that made those allegations.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
With Michael Jackson?

Speaker 5 (27:07):
No, Charlie, she Charlie, she did you guys watch this documentary?

Speaker 8 (27:11):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Not yet. I know you said you loved it, right
he does, Oh so Corey Felman's and oh I didn't realize. Wow.
So even though even though this movie might not have like,
you know, such such, it's not taken as seriously maybe
as a stand by me or other films, you.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Know, I why why.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, why would they ever? Why would Siskel and Ebert?
Why would why would Jean ciscl say that this entire
movie was filled with girl talk and that he and
that yeah, he couldn't stand it. He didn't like how yeah,
it was all just and I was like, oh, girl
talk like about how her mom died, you know, girl call.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, you know we have we have a death of
a parent, we have divorce, we have you know, like sexuality,
and like.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I didn't even realize that.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Like when they pan across when Sam's mom how short
are the shorts?

Speaker 3 (28:04):
How tall are those boots?

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Scene they pan across and they're like there's a it's
like a municipal building across the street, and there's a
couple and someone's holding their baby and they've just gotten
married at like a courthouse, and that I think is
kind of showing like and they were you know like
little bits of.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
Oh the sexual Revolution. Yes, but I'm like, yeah, but
go off.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Let's let's say it wasn't a real movie, like a
bunch of boys wandering around trying to find a dead boy.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
I was like, oh my god, all the boy talk
that I have to listen to and stand by me? Yeah,
have you ever been French kissed? Are you kidding? I
don't want to get pregnant, but.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
If we wanted to know the truth, we went to
our friends.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Feels like somebody going that's what sex is.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
And if anything, I think this movie really I mean,
we didn't up in nineteen seventy like this this movie
takes place, but I just feel like it really captures
like suburban life, neighborhoods, summer Like it feels very like
my own memories, you know what I mean. So if
that and that in that aspect, I think it's super
solid and like very realistic, and that's why it's so

(29:19):
relatable and people love it all these years later, right Yeah,
you know, yeah, yeah, i'd say real quick, my favorite
character of them all. I mean, I know, I know
it's kind of a joke, but I don't know. There's
something about Rosie there's something about Rosie where I'm just like,
she always draws my attention. I think it's her terrible outfits.

(29:40):
I don't know. I mean, the poor poor lady had
such bad costuming. But no, yeah, I think Roberta. Yeah,
I think Christina Ricci, like you were saying, like she
just I mean, I was obsessed with her. She was
having such a year. She had just done Casper. Of course,
the Adams Stanley movie, so she was I.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Got that kiss with Stevin soa.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Isn't that funny? Baby's there? Yeah and both I had
just read recently somewhere in some article. Yeah, apparently because
they had shot Casper. It's not like this was like
shot before then, even though to me, Devin Sawa seems
younger in this movie than in Casper. But which also
also we need to talk about the nudity, because I

(30:18):
don't I don't know about that. Let's let's let's table
that for a second. But no, the producers and Demi
Moore's wanted. The producers, I guess when they were really
going after Christina Ricci and she was having this big
hit Casper, they I guess were already like looking at
Devin in the movie and they're like, oh, well they
already kind of have this great chemistry. Let's see what
they're like as like rivals, you know. So I think

(30:39):
they he just got cast right from Casper. That's what
this interview made it seem like. So yeah, and then
it's funny. She and Ashley, the girl that plays Chrissy,
who has passed away in real life. They then a
couple of weeks later did a lesser known movie that
I still loved. What why are you laughing? Sorry?

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Yeah, I just looked at it right now. So that's
why I wasn't surprised.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Oh ye yes, a while ago too, I think yea, yeah, yeah,
oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Actually, Aston Moore and Rita Wilson as Chrissy.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Before you drive up.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
I even have in my notes how she's like such
a little pro like when you see her in behind
the scenes stuff, she's like.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
These are the people I have to work with. Do
you see this madness? Like she's so.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Cute and behind this stuff is so cute. Yeah, they were.
There was a clip going around of like them doing
like homework or something in a trailer and they're like, yeah,
this is lame, It's cute.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yes, I have I have like bits we can talk about,
but like they she Samantha the Curlo Plates or Gabby
Hoffman had the picture of what's Billy Joe from The
Green Day in like her trailer and she was.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Like, yes, cute?

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Is it.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Really cute?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, I'm glad you saw that too. It's so funny.
But no, Christina and Ashley right after this did like
literally a couple of weeks later. That's how busy Christina was.
Did Gold Diggers, which has anyone here ever seen gold Diggers?
Actually that theater. I saw that, me, my mom and
maybe two other people, but it's her and and Klumsky Slumsky,

(32:25):
I never know how to say, last night, very very
clear coded. So Christina was kind of yees yep that
that just hit thirty as well. Did you guys see
Now and Then in theaters? Did anyone see it in
the theater?

Speaker 5 (32:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, no, yeah, I feel like we were just a
little too Yeah yeah, rental.

Speaker 10 (32:45):
Yeah, feeling that's something probably went to West Coast Video again.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, Well the working title was originally I'm still
glad they changed it to Now and Then because that,
I feel like is so obvious but also so classic.
It was called the Gaslight Edition, which is like the
name of their neighborhood, which I could understand, but like,
that does not sound good.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
No, it's so like, uh, even without the gaslighting connotation.
Now it just feels kind of strange, Like I keep
thinking edition like early edition.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, it's always kind of adding to this.

Speaker 6 (33:20):
Right, it feels like a play, a play with sad
people like at Tennessee Williams.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
So right edition, it's like at the end of this
called the Sack, and it's like, don't go down there, right.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Your dreams are dying in the Gaslight Edition.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, real quick, I won't go through everyone's credits, but
I'll just at least talk and then I want to
hear all of our favorite moments, just about our girl
power behind the camera. Like I mentioned, Demi Moore was
a producer on this as well, so she definitely got
it going. The writer producer is so interesting. I love
that this writer director. You guys might have known this.
I think I knew and then forgot so rereading it
this morning, I was like, oh my gosh. They have

(33:59):
worked together multiple times. This was their first uh you know, collaboration.
But the writer producer her name is, I'm Marlene King.
This was one of her earliest screenplays. Before this, she
wrote same year came out a national lampoon probably straight
to video movie called Senior Trip starring Jeremy Renner, which
is really funny to see him before he was a thing,

(34:19):
right and Kit, you'll love this because you were with
me on Cruel Intentions. That was co written by Roger Cumble,
the director of Cruel Intentions. So fun little movie trivia there,
But the director, Leslie Linka Gladder, had done a lot
of TV twin Peaks, n YPD Blue, But these two
teamed up years later on Pretty Little Liars. Funny. Yes,

(34:41):
the writer created Pretty Little Liars, and she has been
quoted saying Now and Then was like totally part of
the Pretty Little Liars DNA. So isn't that so fun? Yes?

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Very cool?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Right, and apparently because of the successive pll the writer
King had said that ABC f Family wanted to do
a TV show up Now and Then, which I could
totally see working, right, I could totally see it working.
Back in twenty twelve, it was announced that they were
developing Now and Then as a series, but ABC Family
wanted the concept to be then was the nineties when

(35:16):
this movie came out, and now was now it was
twenty twelve. And King really did not want that because
which is really interesting because even though the nineties are
so fun, she said, not much has really changed the seventies,
Like nineteen seventies, no cell phones, totally different fashion, right, yeah,
and like we're saying, like, you know, femininity and girl

(35:37):
power and women's rights and all that stuff, right, she said,
like I just I wouldn't. I would. I would want
the show to continue seventies and nineties, not nineties, and
like the tens, right.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Like all the girls are spending the summer at home
watching the O Jase Simpson and Chase.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Oh my god, they're trying to reach oh my god.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, so she said, and her quote was, I didn't
want to take a chance on changing the time period.
To me, there will never be in nineteen seventies again,
So to set it in the nineties with cell phones
and things like that, it just wouldn't work. And I
felt like it would ruin the movie. How special the
movie is. So yeah. Amen. So the show then, you know,
was just shelved, and I'm sure they'll try to, you know,
bring it back in some way, you know, because since

(36:23):
there's enough love for this movie. But I just thought
that was cool that they've worked together on other big,
you know, female centric things. You know, tell us who.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Did it, Johnny, We're here to help, Holy Molly.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love their sayance stuff. I've always I mean, no
surprise there, but I love their obsession, their random obsession
like we all had as friends as kids. You just
zero in on like this gravestone or this whatever. I
love the whole Dear Johnny stuff. I think it's really fun.
It's also so random, it doesn't really have anything to
really kind of do with anything. But I just love

(37:02):
how each of them respond differently to the seance, you know,
like Chrissy's like totally not into it, the other girls
kind of are. I just think that's a really fun thing.
And I like that it's not just a one scene.
It's like a recurring thing that's kind of like there
that becomes their mission is this tracking down much like us,
you know, with the true crime of who killed you
know this kid and all that and going through the

(37:24):
old library records. So I would say I'll start off
with that, the whole Sayan stuff. The graveyard, the cemetery
at night. Lots of rain at night in this movie, randomly,
but yeah, that's that's my first thing, how about you.

Speaker 10 (37:37):
Mel Definitely when Christina Ricci is looking there in the
library and she comes across the article where her mom dies,
she realizes that she went like pretty painfully and she
has to break down stuff. So that is definitely the
most memorable scene to me, and what I always think

(37:58):
about too, because I actually remember as a kid.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
I think I was like a little bit confused, like
why it was.

Speaker 10 (38:04):
So you know, earth shattering to her and you had
to have it explained, Like no, she thought it was like,
you know, she went peacefully, and like you know, when
you're super young, you don't realize the difference between the
different ways of dying and you know, can be like
more peaceful versus more brutal. Right, So that's really memorable

(38:27):
to me. Yeah, really emotional and upsetting mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
And she does so well Christine scene and then and
then it carries over into later in the film. There's
there's like an addict scene where she's talking more about
it and yes, yeah, and she's mad at her dad
for lying to her for like you know, softening it
a bit right, Yeah, yeah, really touching.

Speaker 11 (38:48):
How about you, kit, I mean there are there's so
so many like I immediately think every time I hear the
phrase now and then I think, chrissy breasts is not
a dirty word.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Press can't hear you, press, can't hear you breast. I've
been constantly.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
How shorter their shirt, how shorter their shorts? How tell
her his boots always comes to mind. I love Jeanine
ger Uffalo and time always calling them boys.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
Boys, we're girls.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
I know.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
I love those I think one I do. I was.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
I remember being very moved by all of christina Y
cheese parts because that really hit me as a young
girl at the time. I also, I was like my
anxieties were like starting around eight, and like my uh
OCD was starting, So I was starting to like idy
eight on the idea like what if my mom died?
Oh my god, what if I said goodbye? And what

(39:48):
if that was the last time and I have to
tell her I love her?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Like, oh my god.

Speaker 9 (39:51):
Just about the only thing that didn't surprise us that
summer was who our friends were used.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
To bet Your mother's dad, somebody needs to teach you
to act like a so we make a pet whenever.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
We need a friend. We're here for each other no
matter what happens in life.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
She was really beautiful.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
We're here for each other always, best friends for life,
for life.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
But there is that scene.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
I always think of the scene in the pond where
they go swimming and where Christina Ricci is trying to
always make it a joke and make it light and
make it and when the others are still laughing. But Chrissy,
because Chrisy was going Chrisy was there to she thought,
and the how like prepossessed Chrissy is as this like
sheltered little girl that she was able to be like no.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
And like punches are in the face and it's like,
don't ever do that. Don't you understand what you no?
And I and it really hit her too, like emotionally, I.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Hated they got it.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, yeah, and I think she got it when Christy
I think like if they just played it off, we
would have bet in comfortable. We would have been like
what but Christy is us in that situations like no,
you don't tell me that I'm going to lose a friend.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Chris. I love Chris.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Oh yeah, it's a great scene and also it's beautiful.
They're lighting right there on the little like beach part
of the pond, and you guys might have seen this.
I guess they. She really did punch her in real life,
like to the point where Christina Ricci was bruised, and
I guess they had to like shut down production for
a couple of days. She didn't like turn her head
enough and like there really was Yeah right, it can't.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Be trusted with stage cos they're all fis and elbows,
like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, so good. How about you, Sarah, you have a moment,
you know.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
So this is gonna sound so bland, but I think it.
It really is like the image that is conjured for
me when I hear this the name of the movie
and I think about it, it's been on their bike
with the radio, singing along summers for me at that age. Yeah,
we're riding around town on my bike, picking up you know,
go to this house. Then the two of you go

(41:58):
ride up town, then we go meet up with this person.
So much time just spent like biking around being silly
and like free and just not thinking about much besides,
like where's the next place for biking to Yeah, just
like it really encapsulates such a memory and a.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
Vibe from that.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because, yeah, the bikes,
I mean, these girls well I was gonna say walked,
but I guess biked so that stranger things could bike more. Yeah, right,
for real, I mean that's out of the girl. There's
a few great shots of the four girls on their bikes.
I mean, you're so right. It's beautiful, it's so fun.
It immediately like transports me back to when you're that

(42:44):
age on the bike and the day is long, you know,
in a good way.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Hey, suckers, what I do?

Speaker 12 (43:02):
They just.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
You mentioned the pond. There's another pond scene with the boys.
So I want to talk about the nudity because these
points I looked up Devon saw what was only seventeen.
In the credits, he and Gabby Hoffman had like guardians,
but no other kids. Their guardians aren't listed. I don't
know what's up with that, but I mean these boys
were underage. We see butts, you know, not a big
deal's cute, but like, what are you as adults now?

(43:26):
As some moms in the group, as some caretakers? I mean,
is that weird that we have like right underage nudity
and like these boys are running around and I mean
you can't see anything.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
You see you can see Devin sah because I was
ten at the time, and you can see when we
would used to try to pause it as children to
see where he bends down to get his underwear.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Everyone was like, you can see as well, you can
a little bit.

Speaker 6 (43:53):
Uh, it meant nothing to be as a child, I mean,
I like it meant something like in my mind like, oh,
I can see it, but you couldn't really make anything out.
But yeah, as an adult me, I'm like, hey, quick question,
what the hell.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Is wrong with you? How dare you put my son
in that scenario?

Speaker 4 (44:09):
It wasn't Devil's I wasn't sure.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Like a good question. That's a really good question, sir.
I don't know. I should look it up. Maybe it was,
but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
What butts aren't because I go back and forth. There's
that that movie.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Oh gosh, I can't remember the name of it, but
it's the one about how we were kids. When it
came out too so Arthur Conan Doyle how he like
believed in fairies and there was a movie that was
kind of like felt like The Little Princess, but it
was like these two girls and it was but it
was as if the fairy story was true in any event.
There's a scene where she's like it's like the eighteen
hundreds and she's in the bathtub, her mom is bathing her,

(44:45):
and I remember, as like a ten year old being like,
oh my gosh, you can see her. She's she's naked,
and then being like, well, so what it's just a bathtub,
Like it's so the butt, Like.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
I didn't you could see her front. And I remember
as a kid being she was probably like eight to.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
Ten, that's way too old.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
I yeah, I remember as a kid being like, oh,
I would feel like and then I was as a
kid telling myself, well, but it's it's not you.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I shouldn't be thinking of this that way. That's not
that creepy.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
You're like, I wouldn't put it in my movie, but
I do feel like the boy's.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Butt, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Yeah, I'm gonna tastefully do the child bathing scene in
my movie. But no, there's like I think the butt's
running away. There's something like cute and innocent about little
boy butts or anyone's little butt just running away.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
But when the bending down, I don't I think they
should have been careful.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
I don't think there.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Should be any way you could accidentally.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Look at it two ways, like are we feeling sensitive
about it because we're like making something gross about it?

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Or or get wrong, inappropriate.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
I think it's right on the line, this particular one,
because it's their age.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Their age is kind of on the line.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I feel also, just knowing the timeframe that this movie
was made, we just like we know that Hollywood was
particularly insidious to children and not for children at this time.
So it's like I'm not looking at it sexually, right,
Like you know, I'm like I don't trust any of
the adults.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm googling as we're talking about this.
All right, So Devin has talked about this, and it's
so funny. Kit someone tweeted in this whatever article. I'm
it's like whatever, but they have some tweets and someone
literally said what you said. If you were a girl

(46:47):
who grew up watching Now and Then and didn't pause
and rewind fifteen times with your friends, see if you
can spot den you didn't really live your childhood. Yeah,
so many people lived.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Let me tell these friends, right, this.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Was yeah, all of us. You know, it was an
exciting scene. But so yeah, Devin says that was all them,
that there were no stun or body doubles. He said,
you really can't see anything because he's in his words,
they were all wearing a frontal sock. But you know,
you can still I saw the sock. You can still
see some bits. He said. What made it so awkward
was actually, and this is a good thing, maybe because

(47:24):
women were at the you know, at the helm of
this project. Thank god, right, he said, everyone was so careful.
The set was very safe, locked off, no one could
be there. He said, if we had just done it,
it wouldn't have been so weird. But because they were
being so overly protective of us, it felt very awkward.
So he said it was not it was not a
good time for him. But yeah, they really are naked

(47:46):
in the water with these socks, you know, so yeah,
which I mean the water bit whatever, you know, it's
for me, it's the it's the and seeing them run.
You know, they have a random things that they're covering
themselves with. But then it's the reverse shot. It's seeing
their butts that I'm just like, I think we got it.
I don't know if I need to see like true

(48:06):
teen boy butts.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
But the part that I think are sweet, it's like
the baby. But it was when they knelt down that
I was like, oh, I mean as a kid, I
was like, yay, Devin said, it's Casper.

Speaker 10 (48:20):
But yeah, the fact that they're boys, it is kind
of different.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Sorry, yeah, totally oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this that would be.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
So different, especially at the time too, like we are
we're getting into being able to see like male nudity
was always a comedy. It was like if you ever
catch the sight of Yeah, so I do think, yeah,
the comedy.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah that's true, totally true. Yeah, I hear you. I
wanted to get your thought.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
But I wanted to do that.

Speaker 5 (48:47):
Today. They wouldn't do that today.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Yeah, no, today the camera wouldn't get any lower than
like chest, I mean, come, you know, they wouldn't even Yeah,
it was like a little you know, I do appreciate that.
It's a little risque. It's keeping this movie like not
it's really getting you know, kind of honest here.

Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah, right, it being like well, now, you've all forced
my hand. You're gonna be talking about his thing all
summer and no, I'll look.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
And then she comes back around. She's like, it's not
very big, not very big.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
I don't know how he's gonna water that.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Oh my god, Monny Hunt, Bonnie Hunt. And this brings
me to my next question. Let's talk about all the like,
you know, supporting people. Some great cameos we talked about
Janine Kit say some words about Bonnie Honey. She's not
in a much.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
Wow, and she is one of my favorite parts in
the movie. She's not in it much. She's for a
hot second. It's one of the funniest line readings because
it's so her point of view on it. When she
was like what we were talking about and Chris, he
goes sex and she goes see.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Now, when you say that so casually makes me very scared.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
It's just when you say that so CATCHU se same
sex is like someone says, boot, I'm scared. She's like, sorry, mommy,
She's like, it's okay.

Speaker 9 (50:09):
If we wanted to hear the facts, we went to
our parents.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I've been thinking about what you asked me about sex.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
You say that very casually, and scares me.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Oh my god, but I love how like I feel
terribly for her.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
I'm like, wow, that's a pathological thing to be that
frightened of sex.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I love it. See when you say that so casually,
it frightens.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Great scene. I feel like growing up. That was a
quoted scene, like with the whole watering of the flower,
you know, like that, right, that.

Speaker 6 (50:46):
Was a moment, A small one doesn't matter as long
as it works.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
So good. Yeah, we have her, Sarah. Is there anyone
that pops out in your mind from the guest stars
besides you know Jenny Bonnie Loris Leachman at Sam's grandmother, right,
who looks so good in her little dad?

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Yes, I mean truly the adults.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
It's a stacked adult cast. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
I forgot how many fabulous, amazing adults.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Were in this movie.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Absolutely, And can I just say, I'm sure I've told
you all this before, but I always forget that they
hide from Chloris Leachman, they hide from Grandma, and literally,
I've never felt more seen because the amount of times
that my family and I would do that, especially when
my mom's mom would come over. She would ring the
doorbell and we knew unannounced. It was always unannounced, and

(51:42):
somehow we were always home together, which is she knew.
She somehow knew like, oh, you're gonna be home, You're
gonna be there. She would ring the doorbell and we
all looked at her like oh shit, like turn the
TV off, don't move right. Then she would come around,
if you remember my house, come around to the glass
door where we all were. And there were times when
we would.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Get in the back, we would like gate.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
She would open the gate yep, and come around. And
she was doing this and sometimes we were there and
oh my god, this is so bad that I'm admitting this,
but like especially if like Marina and I were on
the couch, we just blasted the TV so loud and
just pretended we could not hear her. It's so awful,
it's so rude. But yeah, my mom would be like quick,
the blinds, the blinds. No one moved like we just

(52:26):
we would hut. So it's so funny because I forget
that that exists in this movie. But wow, see that's
what I mean real life. Sorry, it would be like
dropping off like something, or in the neighbor like it
was sweet, like no, no, oh, yeah, it was sometimes

(52:47):
she would be dropping off like Christmas gifts and we'd
be like, oh no.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Because like I grew up, my grandparents lived into like
the idea that I would ever ever ignore micro I'm
knocking up the time.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Will It's really gross, Like I don't think people can
hear this. This is terrible. I'm going to hell.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
You're a child.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
We just we just our house was such hibernation. I
mean like, oh god, it was just like oh no, no, no,
please don't do not especially unannounced, like.

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Oh yeah, yeah no. We always if someone ring the doorbell.
I don't have an appropriate response to doorbells to this day,
righting that like it's like literally but you probably weren't like.

Speaker 6 (53:36):
That rightly was, but my my family completely.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
I don't think that's a universal thing.

Speaker 6 (53:41):
But that's literally Billy Italian.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Like the dog and.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Ring doorbells in my family. I think they just I'm
not trying to rack my brand.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
We were growing up, people would randomly come to your door.
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Yeah, yeah, it would happen. Came to my door. Oh wow,
yeah around the corner.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
It was like right, yeah, just to hang out.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
It was like it was like solicitors yeah, Jehovah's witness.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Jehovah's in Morsetown. Yep.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah, they like to come around.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Yep. I have a distinct memory, you guys. Remember my
house was sort of like split level in a way,
and like when the doorbell would ring, and like I
would like stealthily like hid behind a stair and even
if sometimes it was my grandmother and I'd be like
And it was kind of fun then because it was like,
oh my god, I'm like in a horror movie, like
don't let the killer.

Speaker 5 (54:36):
See your waiting for them again?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Oh my god, it's crazy crazy anyway, So yeah, Chlorus Leachman, great, great, Yeah,
some really fun stuff there. How about you? Mails there
another you know, I was gonna say, guest stars if
this was a show, is there another like cameo or
smaller role that that I need to watch?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Remember we were just talking about Hanka's area.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
So oh yeah, there's some good tension there because mom
likes him. He's the new date and Samantha.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Which she's actually so nice.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
So I don't like how it is, but mel Upon
the rewatch, this is the mom's first date with him.
He goes first date Jitters and I was like, my
mother would introduce her to the first date.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Yeah, definitely the mom.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah, the mom some some questionable behavior, Yeah, totally,
And that's where.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
We get it. She's a human too, and so but yeah,
I don't agree with what she's doing.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Yeah, she's a human. So she's made a mistake. I
feel like God is a mistake.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
It was the seventies first date jitters were different than yeah,
but uh no.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
My child Sam coming home holding her little sister.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Read this guy cannot last. You're so right, You're so right, Robert.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
To the truth.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
How big are your boots? Now?

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well, just how big are your boots?

Speaker 3 (56:10):
With every penny?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Mel? Yeah? Do you want to share what you heard
recently about a certain character that I think I know too,
So tell me.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Yeah, I'm sure it's not news since I heard it,
but it was on like I think making the rounds
on Instagram recently about Roberta's character was originally supposed to
be like open like it's supposed to be a storyline
in the movie that she's a lesbian, and that's why

(56:39):
Rosie o'donald wanted to play that part. But I'm actually
now I'm talking about it. I wonder how true that
is because Rosie was not out, which.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
You really right, Rosie wasn't out yet, which is so interesting.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
I wanted, maybe this is not true.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Well, no, I think this is because what I heard
on top.

Speaker 5 (56:53):
Of that signed because this was a lesbian role.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Well, I have heard the opposite, so this is so fun.
I heard that they really wanted Rosie because she was
on the up and up. She had just done the
Flintstones like Sleepless in Seattle with some of these same actors,
so they really wanted her, but she kept saying no.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
So I heard that yours is probably correct.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And somehow they got her. I'm not sure how. Maybe
you know, she realized just how nice and wholesome and
sweet this movie is, so she's like, okay, yeah right,
and so yes so, and Christina Ricci has backed this up.
Both Christina and Rosie have said the script she was
totally a lesbian. She was not just a tom boy,
like like the line that Rita Wilson says, which is
so funny because now I know this rewatching it. She

(57:36):
says it off camera, So it was it was like
an ad lib. It was a dub. So kit basically
was like in the studio with Rita Wilson saying, okay,
record this right, but she says, oh, she's living in
Sin with her boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Living in Sin with her boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Yeah, it was. It was probably living in Sin with
your girlfriend. And that's why Rosie then says, totally normal.
So and I mean, look at it. I mean she's
so they dressed her in such a butcher where she's playing,
she's throwing a basketball with like he's on the street.

Speaker 10 (58:00):
Like no, And even as a kid watching them, I
was like, for even when she's a when she's a girl,
like a not a woman. Yet I didn't get a
vibe that she would be with a boy. I thought
that was really weird that she has their romance.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Yes, isn't that interesting with her and Devin? That Devin's
attracted to her? Yeah, it's interesting and that you know
what now that I think about it, Yeah, she has
the kiss, and I guess she doesn't really tell her
friends because I'm thinking, like, out of all the girls
that want to kiss, it's teeny. So it's sort of surprising,
like that doesn't lead to like just a little wow
between them.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
It was the very last day that she ever taped
her boobs down after. That's what they say, Like again, yeah,
I always liked it because I was a little tomboy,
but I was also very feminine on the inside. And
I was like, I hate pink because pink means you
don't get taken seriously.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
But really I liked I liked all that stuff, so
I liked the idea.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
I was like, oh, okay, he can see that even
though she likes like rough and tumble stuff, it doesn't
mean she doesn't want to be kissed.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
It doesn't mean that.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
I was like, what in what universe?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yeah? But I was like I felt bad because her
brothers too.

Speaker 6 (59:14):
I was like, oh, she doesn't have like anyone like
she wants to be a girl, but there's nowhere to
put it, you know.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
And then that he saw but I do feel what
I'm going for. I guess, yeah that might.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Yeah, but I agree though, mel and I also especially
agree when you because when you see Rosie O'Donnell god lover,
just her vibe, you just can tell.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I was like, I was like, bullshit, she's living in
sin with her boy.

Speaker 6 (59:38):
You mean you mean a girlfriend like well like and
whereas Christina Ricci kind of gave off a vibe. I
was like, oh, she likes Stevin Sala look at her right.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Well, seeing that actually got me thinking, did any of
you watch the show?

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, amazing, one of the best.

Speaker 7 (59:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
Yeah, and she was quite obsessed with Tom Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Was that an act?

Speaker 6 (01:00:06):
I think she thought he was cute but not I
don't think she was attracted to him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
She made it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
She went like all in on this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
It was a major show. Definitely, every single episode she
was like my boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Yeah, it was like, you know, the like today, Like I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
Don't think that one's ever been into a man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I know today. Yeah, I mean I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Don't think so, not not Tully, not beyond like he's cute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
I really interesting that she like went so hard on that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Yeah. I feel like it was a cut like it
was so that there wouldn't be natural questions about who
is she dating, who is she interested in? And I
think she also intentionally picked someone who would never be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
In her league.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Yes, I was interested.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Yeah, similarly in the closet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Like I'm sensing something, so I'm going to pick you
right maybe.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
But yeah, she knew too, Yeah, something something about God,
I'm really going on, something about Tom Cruise is rather sexless,
isn't it about him that's rather removed from the whole thing, especially.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
As he gets older.

Speaker 10 (01:01:25):
As he gets older, Yes, but I do think in
his prime, No, he was yeah, top cut.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yeah he was a total babe. I mean, yeah, you know,
so it made sense. But yeah, I had a feeling
she probably was a fan and probably like all of us,
would say, oh, yeah he's so handsome, what a look. Yeah,
and then the producers, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
You're having something. Yeah, we'll talk about.

Speaker 12 (01:01:46):
God, but everyone get I also love how they're all
they may as well just be chain smoking around.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
They're like, let me kiss that baby, let me in there,
like the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
So like I feel like the kids are in like
a dramedy, the adults are in a full on comedy
like NEDA. Wilson's acting for the stage. Like Rosie telling
the limo driver like, hey, buddy, I need you to
get out of the limo and he's like, I'll take
you there and she's like, yeah, no, I'm gonna Like
that would never happen. He would never let these ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Just you know, legally or not. This is company car.
If you guys do know, right, it's coming. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
You didn't see ted And then real quick going back
to Rosie being gay Roberta being gay, like is it
I don't know. Then it's kind of funny that she's
a kind of coologist. I don't know, is that like
you know what I mean? Like it's a little like
that's pretty fitty. Maybe that's why Rosie was like, Okay,
she's gay, and I gonecologists like is this a cartoon? Like, yeah, she's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:02:59):
They were like, we have to make her straight so
it doesn't seem like a joke because.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Yeah, but that I always I do remember the line
about her having a boyfriend, and also that just like be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Like even as kids, you're like, oh okay, I.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
Can't picture well yeah, even just watching it this morning,
when they said that line, I was like, wait, wait,
who was she talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Is there another Roberta a neighbor?

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Guys, I have to go soon, but yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
And Sarah probably have to go. But so if you
want to hop off now, feel free.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Or I was just gonna say, what do you guys
think of the casting between the adults and the kids.
Is anyone mismatched or what do you guys think?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
What do you think Sarah.

Speaker 5 (01:03:45):
I think.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Roberta and or young Roberta and Demi I probably visually
would have put them closer. Like, I don't think Rosie
o'donald was a surprise.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
It's kind of rude actually, and anyone turned into that,
You're right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
It's not that it's Rosie is rude, it's just how
they styled her, like she spend way cuter in previous movies.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
We know this, right, Yeah, And I think just Demi's
vibe matches Christina Ricci's so much that it was a
better fit for an older Samantha. But overall, I think
the casting is fabulous.

Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
I think just probably the Rosy one. I think even
as a kid, I was thrown off, like wait what.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Yeah, yeah, because she's they have different accents even like
yeah accent at all.

Speaker 13 (01:04:45):
Yeah, I can't imagine Rosie o'donnald being anything other than
like a thirty year old woman, Like I can't even
imagine her as a little Christina, yes, even though of
course she was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
But yes, it's funny to think, like who else could
have been in the movie, Like if it isn't Rosie,
who else? And that got me thinking, maybe you guys
saw this online. But here are some casting rumors. Apparently,
Jamie Lee Curtis was originally announced to play adult Chrissy,
but was replaced for some reason by Rita Wilson. Would
have been really good. I mean, Rita's great, Rita's so great,

(01:05:19):
but she is sort of in a different movie, like
she is in sort of like a Father of the
Bride or like, I don't like, just something so big.

Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
Basically, yeah, Jamie, we know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
From My Girl, mel We've talked about My Girl on
the show. We know Jamie can be wholesome, funny, sweet, big,
but like it's always still realistic, you know. So yeah,
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know why Jamie Lee
was replaced, But that makes sense because I think Jamie
Lee and Melanie Griffith are like besties. Like she's got
a group of like maybe even demies in it too.
I feel like a lot of the ladies went to
one of the New Halloween movies to support Jamie, and

(01:05:51):
I remember Melanie is like in the group. Yeah, so
you know. And then also, I don't know if this
is a rumor, because I just think it's so funny.
Kirsten Dunst was offered a role of Chrissy but refuse
to gain weight, which is funny because the actress is
barely big.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
I mean, right, but I remember thinking, oh, she's the
heavy one child.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I was like, she's like five pounds.

Speaker 5 (01:06:14):
Wait, you guys, you're jocking my memory. That's why I
was so confused that Rosie was not her as an adult.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Yeah, I was like, Rita's not fat, she's pregnant. That's
oh yeah, that would be just turned into pregnantly.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
And we know that Rosie can do such good comedy.
Where Rosie's bigger and pregnant, so she's the adult Chrissy.
Then maybe yeah, then maybe Demi is Roberta. And then
maybe if Jamie Lee could have done it, Jamie Lee
could have been older Gabby, older.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Samantha, which I actually could have seen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I can't be older Sam. Yeah, Demi is older. Sam
is the braids, the smoking, she's such a like Daria
nineties vibe, you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Know, zeb Hawkins blasting. Yes, yes, and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Then Melanie looks so hot. Melanie is just a babe,
right yeah, but yeah, and then the only other casting
info I saw was what you guys might have seen,
because this was making the rounds on social recently, Leo
was apparently going to be right, did you guys say
that to you? Which Leo was going to be Brendan
Frasier though, yeah, not Devin So which I'm like, but wait,

(01:07:27):
Leo was so young to already be like a he's
like already have gone to war.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Yeah maybe realistically, Yeah, the point is that they were
they were.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah, yeah, being sent out there.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
Yeah, the ones that didn't go to college.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
So that's true. Yeah. I do love Brendan in that
apparently uncredited scene. I don't know why really, Yeah, for
some reason they did not credit him, which I always
find so weird whenever movies don't like did they say
like don't credit me or it was that just a
only big error.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Ten lines like he has like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, and he was already like in some things, I
mean and Seno man hello, so it's just yeah, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 6 (01:08:10):
I do love that they tell the story of the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
Sorry, I know, but I do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
I love that they get they it's a moment, it's
a serious and that the girls are able to see,
Oh well this is what they're showing us on the news.
And he's like I hear you this is maybe the
first time you've heard that the news doesn't always show everything,
and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Like seeing that totally.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
But they're still saying it's still it's you're learning, but
you're still in the safety of that four of them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Yeah, absolutely want to get back the old Brendan Fraser
at all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Oh of course, I mean I say that with him
right now.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
I'll take whatever Brendan I can get. Let me put
it that way. I'm happy he's back in any capacity.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
But yeah, he's her.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
I mean he was like physically, I'm sure he wishes
he could go back to the old like he.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Well, he said that, like he was so unhappy at
that time, like when he was in his top shape,
like Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Really hurt in the Second Mummy.

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
He wanted to do his own stunts and because they
were making it, you know, he he was like I
never wanted to say no because I didn't want to
seem like I wasn't game, and he really messed like
his back up and something else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Yeah, he was a babe. But yeah, I'm sure, I'm
sure with this new Mummy, like I think they had
to tell. I mean it's kind of obvious, but I
think they've had to tell him like, you will have
to like work out a bit, but obviously there's no
way you can become like Tom Cruise. But I'm sure
he's gonna slip down a little bit, I just think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
But I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Oh god, I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Not ai body.

Speaker 5 (01:09:52):
Like normal?

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Right, either have him normal and the focus anyway, as
long as you know what, as long as his hair
gets longer, because right now it's short. He's got to
have that, you know, rick longer flop you know.

Speaker 14 (01:10:05):
Yeah, New Line Cinema presents a film about who we were.

Speaker 9 (01:10:17):
You mentioned this, I'll beat the hell out of you
who we are?

Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
And the fringe it kind of looks like Rush Lombard.
We have to find for it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
And now there were two. Yeah, this is our little
this is our little touching scene, whether it's Christy and
Roberta punching each other or yeah, yeah Sam, or yeah
is that called a storm drain?

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
A storm drain? This is which I do love How
Teeny sits.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
How when she goes like she asked Sam asks or
something about her parents, or she's like, do you think
your parents are good people?

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
Or something?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
And she goes, I don't really know my parents and
like that's.

Speaker 6 (01:10:55):
Like a sleeper line of the movie that's like one
of the saddest, Like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
God, there are some really good lines about parents. I
also love when Brendan says to them. He says something
along the lines of like, there comes a day when
you realize your parents aren't always right, because yeah, that's
that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
My mother says that hippies are all sex fiends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Well, your parents aren't always running right exactly. Yeah, yeah,
some good stuff there, But can we just say, girls,
what are you doing going down a storm drain a
suit like Penny Wise hello.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
And I know we're so young. They don't realize that's
what And that's another thing that pissed me off of
Cisco and Epert. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. It's almost
drowning in a storm drain not nearly as death defying
as almost being hit by a train.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Is it? Literally the like I think he's pissed because
they had a say.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
I'm like, oh, because girls, contact ghost you have you're
a pissed It was yeah, like it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
This movie was not critically loved that much, but over
time people really realized, Like because I even saw you
might have seen this too, like the New York Times
and a piece later years later, I think for one
of its anniversaries, you know, really raved about it. And
I even wrote this quote Tackling death and grief, along
with butting sexuality, gave their stories weight when narratives about
female adolescents were often surface level. Amen, Absolutely right.

Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
Yep so, And it does feel just like and to
have the reviewers at the time say like this is
like to literally have Ciskel Ciskel and Ebert, aren't they
They're supposed to be the leading like completely you know,
like neutral just here from them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
And he was like, it's filled with girl talk.

Speaker 6 (01:12:40):
Girl talk about how their mother died, mother died in
terrible car accident, girl talk about what it is to
grow up honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
When you think about it, truly and now I really
want to rewatch stand by me. The boys talk about
a dead person, family issues, divorce, I mean like literally
at times.

Speaker 6 (01:12:59):
Liking up girl like they think about movies like my
girls are thinking.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Yeah, bullies.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
You know, there's like hey for southernly, you know, it
gets a little like dark and twisted, of course, but
like it's it's such a mirror image that it's like, wait,
do you not like it because it's a mirror image,
Like it sort of feels like, oh, been there, done that?
Or do you really just because the girl it's so weird.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's like it's like because it it
is so similar.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
But that's like we were saying, like our lives were
so similar to this, like before the two thousands, like
this was what it was to.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Grow up as a child. Like I mean, we got
in a little bit less. We would never have been
allowed to like bike to the next town, and we
would have all had helmets on. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Oh please, But we wouldn't have gone down storm trains
for a bracelet. No, don't worry, I'll make it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
I wouldn't have known if it wasn't for this movie
that I was like, Oh, that's what that is. Like
a storm drain is meant to fill with water and
that's I was like, Oh, another way to I knew
you were to dive into a shallow pool, yes, but
this I was like, Oh, another way to die.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Which, by the way, the diving I forgot to say,
it's a great moment. It's it's tense, it's scary. Where's Roberta?
How did she end up all the way over there?

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
She had to have got she had to have swum under.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
She was booking it. Yeah, she was like, I want
I want you to not see a shadow and then
you're going to turn around and you're going to scream
and it's gonna be like because I'm just like she's
on the other side of this little pun.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
I remember being like, how did you When I was
a kid, what like this summer I would take I
would try to see how long I could dead Man's
float like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
I was like, Oh, I wonder if totally totally hold
my breast for that long for the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Bite, Yeah, for the bit, right, And then I've done that.
I've done that where even like in like daytime, like
not even not day time like on land, I've like
hidden in a place and I'm like, okay, this is
taking talk. I'm I'm giving up this prank, right, So Yeah,
when you're underwater, you're like, all right, like hurry up
or else I'm gonna have to I've before I'm like

(01:15:09):
where I just can't hold my breath and then I
just go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Like, I gotcha guy, Surprise you were worried about me?

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
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(01:15:38):
get back to Shelby, Indiana. But first, here's a cameo
from my friend Brian Tyler, who remembers a key scene
from now and then here's Brian.

Speaker 15 (01:15:48):
This is coming from the perspective of someone who hasn't
seen this movie since I was a child, so I
don't really remember it that well, and I'm definitely gonna
rewatch it. But I remember a suit someone gets trapped
in a sewer, right, and it's like raining, and she's
gonna drown, right, And it was like the scariest thing

(01:16:10):
at the time. I remember watching it with my cousin.
We we're like, oh my god, she's gonna drown. We
were freaking out, and I'm pretty sure she turned out okay, Right,
I'll find out when I rewatched the movie. Thank you
for letting me get that off my chest.

Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
There was just one of the cutest uh when I
saw we probably saw the same one where it was
behind the scenes and it was when they were shooting
the seance in the cemetery.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Wow, and tell me more.

Speaker 6 (01:16:40):
I mean, Deny Morris has she's in her producer mode
one hundred, like she's got yeah, she has her headphones on.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Ash was like, did she direct this?

Speaker 6 (01:16:48):
Because he was like, she's not camera ready, like she's
not about to go on, you know, like she and
she's talking so much about how it's important like her
girls and it's really important to have this set where
they're telling the story.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
And the girls are so cute.

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
And Sorah Birch goes she was like, yeah, it's really
fun to see who we look like with the big girls.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
That's what we call them around here, the big girls.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
That's so awesome. I know behind the scenes in the
nineties just hits different, right, it does. And it's also
at a time when, like you know, for better or
worse in this case for better, but in other things
for worse, where kid actors really couldn't really be kids.
They can be kids, but like, you know, they're polished,
you know, whereas nowadays kids are still polished on set,

(01:17:35):
but like it's different there are so they're much looser,
you know, but back then they were like many adults.
So it's cute, but it's also kind of like, no,
don't do that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
When you hear Christina Ricci talk about when she was
growing up.

Speaker 8 (01:17:50):
She was like, for me, set was safe, Like set
was the place where they told you you were going
to show up at this time, and then you were
there at this time and someone said were going to
do homework, and then they took you and you did
the homework.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
She was like, home was a lot more. Someone's going
to be mad. Maybe you're not going to get dinner. Maybe.

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
Yeah, She's like Set was like like a structured family.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Wild And it's amazing that she's still so normal and
still working and looking great doing great things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Right, Yeah, yellow jackets.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
And Gabby Hoffman's still busy. She pops up in things
thora Birch. She actually just made the rounds on my
social I guess she was being she was on the
red carpet for something. I don't know if she's in something,
but you know, she doesn't work as much as the others,
but I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
That they didn't have her.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
I don't know everything that went beyond, but I think
it was an from my layman's terms, from completely on
the outside, I think it was crazy oversight to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Not have it be about her and her kids.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Absolutely absolutely, or if she said no, which you know
she's kind of said no to some things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
And you know, yeah, I heard there.

Speaker 6 (01:19:01):
Was a scheduling like maybe she was doing Wednesday or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Well, yes, you know what, actually, yeah, you were right.
I think she said no, I can't because of Wednesday
the show. But then she ended up getting replaced by
Christina Ricci. I believe because on Wednesday, because she ended
up like not, I guess a family emergency or something
happened where she couldn't do Wednesday. So she was completely
out of both And now I'm realizing that now, and

(01:19:25):
then connection with being replaced by Christina, which I mean,
how would you do a Wednesday show and not have
Christina Ricci at least do some Christina? I mean, hello, right,
so it all worked out, but she.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Was a genius. I'm finding out.

Speaker 6 (01:19:39):
This is completely different finding out and it's not it's
not family values. This is the first Adams family, the
Adams family that she came up with the idea that
when he like when Uncle Fester Fake Fester like kisses
her a good night, that when she goes to lie down,
she lies down with her like a vampire with her
hands crossed over her chest and jet.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
That was a little seven year old Christina Ricci's idea.
She was like, what if I go like and they
were like, yes, yes, child.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
Oh I love that. She really is brilliant. She is
such a I don't even want to say like she's
our goth queen because she's not really God, but she
is our spooky you know, when you think of her
whole career, she is a true she's not a scream queen,
but man, she is a spooky, spooky girl. And we love.

Speaker 6 (01:20:24):
Sleepy Hollow Weep. On the other day, I spoke along
with it the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Oh my god, well yeah, you had your cameo in
my episode this time last year for that big annivers
Oh my god, just like and you know, she's she's
always embraced, especially like in the Sleepy Hollow time like
twenty five years ago ish in like magazine shoots. She
was always wearing like a black lip, you know, but
it was never like too scary or too like woa,
you know. But she really was our spooky girl.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Yeah, you're still right.

Speaker 7 (01:20:59):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:21:03):
Is there something about like in the seventies, like we're
moving away from multi generational homes, we're moving more and
more into these suburbs, like it's all about I didn't
appreciate this as a kid, but seeing it as an adult,
I'm like, oh, this is a totally brand new suburban tract.
So everyone here is a specific kind of wealth and

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a specific kind of job, and like is and and this.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Growth in the suburbs.

Speaker 6 (01:21:30):
I think that's around the time that we start like
getting the trope of an older person living on the outskirts.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Where's their family? Why is that person alone?

Speaker 6 (01:21:40):
Because we move out of the multi usually it would
be like, oh, that's old man so and so is
like he lives in the back of his son's house
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Yeah that's boo rad exactly right.

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
Yes, but and so I wonder if there was something
in like the nineties, in that zeitgeistuff like hey, don't
forget the elderly or don't fear them or don't you know,
push them to the side.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Maybe I could also just be totally reading into it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:09):
And they were like, yeah, well we thought it'd be
cool because he's like a creepy old guy, but he
Wasn't you bring.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Up a great point, because yeah, this is a time
when everyone's got like the family unit, like everyone's sort
of accounted for in their homes. So to see a
solo older person, it's like yeah, right, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Like, well, that's wrong with them, Yeah, stay.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Away from him. He might be deranged when it's like no,
Whereas if he's on the street, you know, on the
sidewalk in a city with a bunch of other solo
people walking bay, he's just any normal guy, the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
The fear of like the solo, especially man in the
darkness of the suburbs is yeah, that's totally valid. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
How lonely that must be for him too, especially.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Oh yeah, because everyone's all paired up or you know,
everyone's got hopefully someone else in the house with them
for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Yes, I love.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
Love, very sweet, crazy Fete. Yeah, I love everything about
this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah, it's so like I say many times on the show,
it's a nice, warm blanket, and this movie especially, it's
just and I feel like they don't really make movies
like this that much anymore, because if they did, it
would be like it's almost like the death or divorce,
like something something heavy would be the real kind of power.

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
The impetus or yeah it would, folks, you can't. It's
such a bummer that there was like, we will feel
like we have to hit a quadrant or we'll have
to be saying something beyond, which it is saying a
bunch of stuff beyond just the story. It's saying a
lot of things about growing up and the time period
and war and television and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
But like, yeah, it does. It feels we make we
always need a hook, not.

Speaker 6 (01:23:56):
As people but as producers, feel as though you can't
a chance without a hook or an ip or.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Yeah, what's the log line, like how does it hook you?
And here the log line is just four friends come
of age in nineteen seventy and then meet again years later,
which also, you know, I feel dumb for even saying this,
why do they meet again? I think it's just because
Chrissy's about babay birth.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
Yeah, She's like, I need you to come.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Which I do like the big, the big birthing scene,
which honestly, good job, Rita, because you know, some birthing
scenes are crazy and you really like feel it, but
some you don't. And this I felt. I'm like, oh, man,
she is pushing, do you know what I mean? Like, yes,
it's totally yeah. But even when her husband comes in,
she's so like, oh yeah, we had the baby, Like
she she just wants some girls there, you know, Like

(01:24:45):
when he's there with her and they're holding the bloody baby,
she's looking at him. She's looking at Melanie, she's looking
at Rosie, she's looking at Demi, right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Which is her at the softball game. When he comes
to hit on her, She's like, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
Is that the same that's the same character.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
Glasses.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
I wonder if they're still together. I wonder if she's like,
you know what, I've been with you my whole life.
I want a change and I want to ask you.

(01:25:28):
So we are kids with a bunch of people in
the neighborhood on the grass playing red Rover income these
four adults that we don't really know. I guess we
might know Rita we might know adult Christy because it's like,
oh yeah, you're that lady that lives there, but we
don't really know anyone else. What do we do? Do
we let them play with us? Or are we like mom?

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
I think I want to say I would have been
like totally chill, but I think I would have it's then,
I mean the four.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Ladies, you know, so it's different than but it's the nineties,
you know, and it just because it's such a sweet ending,
it goes full circle. I love that, you know, it
is so sweet. Now we have like an actual theme song,
which movies rarely have. I feel like where it's not
just like Ariana Grande like singing a song for this movie. No,
the song is called now and then it is four
and then right, and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
It's about now and then it's about that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
She's literally singing like dialogue from the movie right. But yeah,
it's so wholesome.

Speaker 16 (01:26:26):
I'm just like with your friends that you got your
bracelet back, but from the storm dream. But yeah, I
just was wondering, like this is so sweet, but these
kids must be like, wait, I'm supposed to run towards you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
You're gonna touch me?

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Like yeah, and then like, I'm put my like my chest,
my chest is on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
Right, and we kind of naturally have to kind of hug.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
All smoking cigarettes, so you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
All, even the mom smell like smells like smoke. The
baby there's there's smoke coming off the baby dodge a
Rosie jacket. Rosy's jacket is so big I could easily
get swallowed up in there, and you will throw me
in a van.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
I'm just like a Christmas present or you get them around.
There's two of them in the back where my legs are. Yeah,
I wish that I could have been cool.

Speaker 6 (01:27:24):
Enough to just be like or maybe I would have,
but I could see I would be.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
Like, yeah, we'll play Red Rover, and I could see
Albert's being like, you'll get over here right now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yea too. There's like a random extra mom who's just like, uh, David,
David over here.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Yeah, honey, honey, come in, you know, come here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
That's the real ending. And then the four friends are
high fiving. They're like, got you you know today? Right.
If this was like the girls from like Broad City,
Meg Stalter, I don't know, if this was like an
all out comedy, they would scare the kids and be like.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
It would scare the field her away.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
It was just.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
This cassette tape.

Speaker 6 (01:28:06):
I remember going to like there was like a summer
camp run for a week during the day in Pennsville
at Fort Mott Bye, I think the girl Scouts and
my mom and I were we would play. We were
playing this cassette every day and I remember we pulled
in right when Daydream Believer by the Monkeys came on
and we stopped and sang the whole song together before

(01:28:30):
she was like, Okay, now you can go to camp,
and we just I remember it was such it was
the sounds of the summer that I remember bouncing on
Crystal's trampoline and be like, if you should have a few.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
The music supervisor whoever, I mean, they picked great, so
and so we know what's amazing about the soundtrack pretty
much every song we still hear in movies shows, especially commercials,
like they picked true Classic, all right, Yeah, we had
Sugar like you were singing earlier. Knock three Times, which
I did see. Apparently not three times is the only

(01:29:08):
song that doesn't make sense because that came out in
nineteen seventy one. No, but it's so cute when thora
is doing a show like it's it's one of the best.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Chrissy is the one.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
With the bike, She's the one who has the bell,
and it makes so much sense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Chrissy's mom would be like, you need to be safe,
you need.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
To have a bell, So hers is the one that
and that's what she's using it for is not safety,
it's for it to just dance along with their friends.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
You're so right. I love that brilliant little touch, a
little art character nod right now.

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
And then Flora Birch has the radio because her parents
are wealthy, but they'll give her. She wants the new
the teenager stuff, and they're like, sure, sure you get that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
So she wore the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
And of course the actress is the wealthy one, right
of course. Okay, all right, you make it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Yeah the hell else?

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
You know? Oh okay, your dad, people's choice.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Lords.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
There's a moment that's early on in the movie where
I feel like I'm like, okay, we are just going
from song to song, like each scene has a big
That's what I was like, Okay, budget for the music
was the biggest line item I think, right yeah, Demi
was like, hey, hey, Universal and Sony and all you
music people, can you like put a song on the movie?

Speaker 3 (01:30:26):
True? Wait, but aren't they new? Was this New Line Cinema?

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
This was New Line Cinema?

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Yeah, then, which was.

Speaker 6 (01:30:33):
Not under a blanket usually like you can sometimes get
a good deal if you're under the planet. Everything in
their catalog will be cheaper to y. They had to
take that money free, Lord of the Rings. Money hadn't
pay for like all, I.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Wouldn't be surprised honestly if Demi as a producer like
co paid for it. If New Line you know, and
then we're like, hey, we can do this, but Demi,
can you you know, do this for free or you know,
like can you just prepab maybe your adult friends and
just because you know the adults worked for what maybe
maybe for day tail Oh yeah, yeah, to scale and

(01:31:10):
like just like the amount of days a treehouse day,
a day at the inside.

Speaker 6 (01:31:16):
The house, inside the house a day, I mean come
on probably the same day as the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Exactly exactly right, So it's like this is like a
long weekend for them, right, Yeah, hospital which is probably
just a set like just down the road, you know
what I mean. So yeah, our friend Sarah who left
is hopefully not picking right now. She's she's like Chrissy
about to pop. Maybe we'll be there. Oh my god,
what if her date, she said, is a twenty sixth.
Oh my god, kid, Okay, I'm gonna the episode. You

(01:31:45):
hear it now I've heard two day is the twenty sixth.
We all need to we won't be all out of
the room, but we need to at least be at
the hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
You have to rent a limo.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Okay, we're gonna need Demi to sponsor this visit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
Please, We need to run an old, ugly limo because
those limos back in the nineties were so boxed. Uh yeah,
God to think that that was a symbol of snow.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Oh yeah, it's gonna need to look like we.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Need a vtr in there because Rita Wilson is so
impressed by that. Right, how funny that timing. See, this
is why this was meant to be. I'm so glad
we all got together for this, right, we really are
that now? And then kids, oh my gosh, now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Wore my address that you said?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Hey, it's very now in that and it is. It
is a little Rita, but it's also giving me those
great bold colors of Roberta from the seventies. You know
what I mean. Yeah, because she's got that orange, yellow
and green. I love that top. I meant to say
this earlier, but this came after, like you mentioned a
little Princess iconic, there was the Babysitters Club Movie. Like
we were getting some really good, wholesome girl power movies

(01:32:52):
in ninety five, which we forget. And going back to
the behind the scenes, the Babysitters Club Movie had some
great cute I think it was maybe Entertainment Tonight or something.
They had like a ten minute video of the whole
cast making the movie. I love it. It's such a
fun time capsule, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
I love seeing that. Yeah, I love all behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
I'm just seeing kids, seeing these rich kids being like
normal kids, being goofy and well not normal, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:33:19):
So the birch was talking to being what she was like,
you know, in normals, and she was she was so wise,
she was like in normal school. Like the teacher, She's like,
I guess we're lucky. You could tell that she was
a little bummed that it was like the teachers could
you couldn't slack off because it was a one to
one is like what she was saying, she's like the teachers.
But then she was like, I'm really grateful because like

(01:33:40):
normally they'd have to pay attention to eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Kids and then in most schools it's like thirty kids.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
And I remember, oh, yeah, totally, she knew that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
This little one gets it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
Anything we should be looking out for? Is there something
coming out soon? Have worked on what I.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
Would say my most my most recent big one that
is out and it's still I think there's a couple
more episodes coming out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
It's a reality show. I'm the host of it. It's awesome.
I loved the show.

Speaker 6 (01:34:13):
It's called Just Makeup On and it's a Korean reality
show about makeup artists.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
It's like a reality show. And I play, I play that.

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
She's she's a K pop star and she's done like
a bunch of but and she like she started in
K pop as a big K pop star and now
she's done a ton of hosting and stuff like that,
like she has there's in my neighborhood of Korea Town
for the listeners, Koreatown, Los Angeles, there's she has another show.

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
There's a.

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
There was a billboard there that it has a red
carpet with and I and I was it's another one
with her that she's like the lead in.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
On Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Do you know it's on Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
Amazon, it's on right now.

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
And you know, I don't think every episode is out,
but half of them at least are.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Yeah, oh my god, I cannot wait. Oh that's fun
for you to be the host too. In that case
when there's like when it's a reality other there's different contestants.
I guess. Yeah, there's a voice for every contestant, right, voice.

Speaker 3 (01:35:24):
For every contestant.

Speaker 6 (01:35:25):
Some of them get doubled up if they leave earlier.
And this one was an interesting Normally you dub separately,
like it's just you and the booth, but this time
because it was me, it was like a five people
in one session in our own in the same room,
but kind of separated and with our own microphones. And
it was because there were four judges and the one host,

(01:35:47):
and we talked over each other so often that they
were like, we have to have this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Yeah, it must be trickier to dub reality, you know,
much is probably trickier to edit because I mean scripted,
I mean you have your script. Of course, there's maybe
you might talk over each other. There's some ad libs, right,
but reality if it's true reality, right, like, yeah, people
are talking whenever.

Speaker 6 (01:36:08):
And then you do have to do it where one
person does it and then the other person goes because
you'll get a bleed over in the headphones of the
one person talking, so you have to like kind of
stagger your thing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
And then there were a lot of different It was
very hard for me to learn the Korean names. Like
that was.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
That is so cool? Oh my god? What's it?

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
Was?

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Gorgeous? All of these like these makeup looks are incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Oh cool. I do love makeup show. They're so interesting
because also like the contestants are interesting and obviously what
they're doing is beautiful. So and and the judgles are
usually like like, because there's a one, what is it on?
Oh god? Netflix has like a British one. I do,
but it's so pretty to watch. I can't remember it's
like been on for like years now. But anyway, yeah, wow,

(01:36:59):
that's cool. So that's out. Love it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
Yeah, okay, just make up on Amazon Prime and then yeah,
I don't know where it's coming to. I just did
one for Studio Canal, which.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
A film yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:17):
And that's the story of Roberta, Samantha Teeny and Chrissy
Spirits and skinny dipping, baseball and treehouses all the Americana.
Thank you out there for listening to or watching this episode.
And thank you so much to my guests, my bestie guesties,
great friends of multiple decades, Sarah Meniqual kit Chan and

(01:37:42):
Melissa Ward for hanging out with me and sharing your
love for this movie. And mel and I did a
very memorable seance back in the day, back in high school,
just like these now and then characters did. So if
you want to see me do a reading of the
true story of that seance recently, head to my Instagram
or Facebook page mjppov. Thanks also, Brian for your cameo

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