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November 13, 2025 54 mins

In this profoundly validating and deeply personal episode, Krysta Francoeur sits down with Dr. Nadine Macaluso, a licensed marriage and family therapist and former wife of Jordan Belfort (the infamous Wolf of Wall Street), to unpack the insidious dynamics of narcissistic abuse and trauma bonding.

Together, they explore:

  • The psychological mechanics behind trauma bonds and why they’re so addictive
  • How narcissistic abuse impacts the nervous system
  • The difference between overt and covert narcissism (and why covert types are harder to spot)
  • How narcissists “mind map” and mirror their victims to gain control
  • Why emotional abuse and coercive control often go unpunished by legal systems
  • The epidemic of “dark tetrad” personalities in leadership positions
  • What Run Like Hell really means, and how to leave safely
  • The role of personality traits like agreeableness and conscientiousness in getting entangled with pathological lovers
  • The healing journey, post-traumatic growth, and reclaiming your self-worth

💥 PLUS: Krysta shares a real-time update on how her own documentation of narcissistic abuse was used in court to help another woman get protection, and how speaking up can change everything.

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👁️ Experience The Oracle

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