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October 29, 2025 40 mins

Gabe and Rebekah are joined by their longtime friend, Jon Tyson, author and pastor of Church of the City in New York City. They dive into the realities of marriage, especially how the intense pressures of life, ministry, and urban living can either drive a couple apart or forge an unshakeable union. 

This is a raw and honest conversation about what it takes to "fight harder," see your marriage with a vertical framework, and find joy in the hard work of becoming one.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why pressure is the defining test of marriage and how it can bring you together.
  • The surprising statistic that 80% of "bad" marriages become great within 5 years—if you stay in it.
  • The importance of a "vertical view" of marriage, especially when facing conflict or emotional abandonment.
  • Why joy in marriage is found in "the talking" and the active work of resolving conflict.
  • How to implement intentional rhythms of rest (like Stephen Covey’s "big rocks first") to connect with God, even in a chaotic city.

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