February 27, 2026 • 17 mins
On Thursday night, Congressman Mark Harris (R-NC) weighs in on President Bill Clinton's congressional deposition, Iran, and the unique flavor of North Carolina barbecue.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, America, welcome back. As promised, we've got congressman
from the great state of Carolina, sir, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey Rich, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm doing great, Mark Harris.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Always a pleasure to have you on the show, to
talk with you, to get an update on what's going
on in the swamp. You're one of the good guys
that still spends time in district, so you don't get
too affected by what's going on in the swamp. But
I want to get your take on a couple of things,
because obviously there's a lot going on in the news.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Been very busy.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hillary Clinton appearing before her Congressional committee to give her deposition.
It wasn't on Capitol Hill. A lot of people were
upset that it was happening in her own backyard at
the Performing Arts Center in Chappaqua, some saying that she
in fact is a performing artist herself and trying to
throw the president under the bus. But what's your assessment
(00:57):
on what's going on there. I do agree that it
is a political win to have her have to be
called to the carpet, but beyond that, I don't know
what we get from this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So bring us up to speed.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, that's a great point that you make her at
several great points. In fact, I was interested to watch
her yesterday during that press conference following the deposition, and
of course it was interesting. All she wanted to talk
about was process and how she felt like it was
a waste of time because.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
They were repeating things over and over again and again.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Just focused on process and sort of the rules of
the hearing. I find that fascinating because the Clintons refused.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Over and over again to even show up for this event.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And then it took recognizing that even Democrats on the
Oversight Committee were going to vote in favor of holding
them in contempt in order to get it to the floor.
And so the very night before we were to take
the vote on the floor of the US House, to
the Clinton's incontent, and I guess they started thinking, you know,
(02:04):
Peter Navarro went to jail for this, Steve Bannon spent
time in jail for this, and no one's above the law.
I think that really is at the root of all
of this. Americans want to know that nobody is above
the law and that people are going to be treated
equally and fairly when it comes to our justice system,
so they just kept putting it off until finally they
(02:26):
got their hearts right, I guess, and decided they would
work it out to do the deposition, and they.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Worked with Chairman Comer the arrangements for all of that.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Again, I'm not on Oversight Committee, so I don't know
all of the ins and outs and details, but I
do know that I really believe that yesterday was really
more of the warm up act, if you will, for
what was going to come today, because I think that
the relationship. She kept saying that she really didn't know Epstein,
that she hadn't manage or anything. I found that interesting
(03:00):
cause the records that I've seen say that the Clintons
in the Clinton White House, Epstein visited the White House
seventeen times, so I guess in those seventeen times she
never was around or either Bill never introduced him to her.
But nevertheless, I think there is much more to be
gleaned from the president former president's testimony that's coming today.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I agree. I think that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And my thinking here again is I think there's value
in the political process of things in Congress doing what
it does in Oversight, But I feel a lot of
people that call the show and things like that, they're
expecting to see Hillary Clinton marched out of Congress in handcuffs,
you know, And I think obviously this is fact finding, right,
(03:47):
we're trying to correct the record. I don't see maybe
there'll be a referral for criminal charges in the future,
but we've seen these referrals in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The only time I've seen them really take root is
the ones you've mentioned Steve mannon Peter nov right, those
are the ones that have ever materialized. So in that thinking,
and if you have different thinking, that's fine. What's the
end of this, right, because we saw the Benghazi hearings
and that was a very big deal. But with that
(04:16):
being said, where do we end up with Hillary Clinton
in this deposition, in this effort?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, I think what you're going to see is you're
going to continue to see more information, more fact finding
that the Oversight Committee is seeking to do. But I
do think that one thing leads to another, and I
think that they're just trying to maybe connect some dots.
There were more names even yesterday. I think that Chairman
Comer reference that maybe have hearings for so again, I
(04:45):
think there's more information they're looking for. I think that
there's so much that happened with the Epstein files. I mean,
we're talking three million pages to go through and so
many of those things. If they are past the statue
of limitations, I don't know, but I do know that
this really, the whole thing of shame is what has
(05:05):
seeming to take more effect than anything. Yeah, and that's
people resigning their jobs, losing their positions and all those
kinds of things. So I think there's gonna be more
of that now. I think we have a responsibility to
expose those that are guilty and treat them the way.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
The Justice Department would be expected to treat them.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, I agree with that. And something you said, you know,
shame is great. My parents are from Puerto Rico, and
when I was a kid, there was a you know,
my mother would constantly, you know, as when we got
in trouble, she would say, stop being on seen beguenza,
which is without shame, right, and I'll put some shame
on that face. And that was a big deal growing up.
(05:44):
Was to make sure you know you have some shame
and somebody who I feel has none. Bill Gates, Right,
Bill Gates has none. He says, Oh, I'm so sorry.
Apparently the guy was a heartless, a dealer of children
to pedophiles. And it just it blows me away. How
this man is indicted in one country for his vaccine
(06:05):
abuses and whatnot, yet he's still lauded by and large
in America as some sort of hero.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
How do we have this bifurcation effects.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, it is a tragedy.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It speaks more to the culture and the decline we've
seen in the culture than anything else. And I think
that more than anything, we've got to restore confidence and
restore fate that the American people can have in our
justice system, which is the reason I think that there's
been so much effort that has gone into this. But
we also remember that we are in nation of laws,
(06:39):
and we've got to follow those laws, and we've got
to make sure we have evidence, and we can't just
be hearsay. It's got to be evidence that we can
take somebody, indict them, charge them, and then try them,
and then sentence them if indeed they're found guilty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And I think that takes time.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
And that's one of the things that I know is
frustrating to the American people to see those the time
that is taking to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, for sure. Now I want to switch gears a
little bit because, unlike many of the guests that I
have on this program, you have the ability and work
in Congress. So when people are, you know, watching the
State of the Union on TV, you know, you get
to be a part of all the fun and all
the action. Talk to me about how awkward that was,
And I know there's a lot of awkward moments in
(07:27):
your line of work. You know, a lot of people
think it's glamorous, but it's not all it's cracked up
to be right and same as mine.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And sometimes people think this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes,
But give us the behind the scenes on those moments.
We saw the President doing an amazing job, I feel,
unifying the nation in saying, you know, let's stand up
for protecting the citizenry and and your colleagues giving a
proverbial FU to the American people.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, we could talk for hours about the State of
the Union address because it was so phenomenal. I mean,
you could talk about just the speech itself and the
way he delivered it, and how he laid out what
the situation was that he inherited after four miserable years
with Joe Biden, and then to talk about what he
has sought to do in moving the America First agenda
(08:21):
and what we have been able to do in these
first thirteen months that he's been in office, and it's amazing.
I mean, from spending cuts of one point six trillion
dollars which was part of the One Big Beautiful Bill.
First time in history that mandatory spending has seen those kind.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Of cuts, and look, it's not enough.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
We have more work to do, but it was a start,
and the other things that he has accomplished, and then
to talk about the things that he sees going forward.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It was just a phenomenal speech.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And then you mix in with that having the gold
winning hockey team that came out from into the press
area and stood there before it with those gold medals
around their neck. It was a unifying moment for the country,
the individuals, and he reached out to and told the
most fascinating stories real American heroes that have seen the
(09:13):
providential hand of God work in their lives and they've
risked it all for freedom and for this nation and
to recognize them.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was just a phenomenal night in so many ways.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And yet when probably one of the most memorable moments
is when he gave everybody the opportunity to respond to
the statement that a primary responsibility we have is to
protect American citizens, not necessarily illegal immigrants, and he just
asked us simply to stand up and for the other side,
(09:47):
my colleagues across the aisle.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To not be willing to stand for that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Was just it was heartbreaking, and it was infuriating and
at the same time not surprising because of the message
is that they continue to put forward. So, I mean,
it was an incredible night. The electricity in the room
was just almost palpable. You could sense the excitement.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But you know, we've got work to do.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, listen, I've been talking again about things that
they need to be doing over in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Things we've passed.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We've got to get to the Department of Homeland Security
open back up and operating. This is serious stuff. And
the Save America Act that is just sitting there in
the Senate. They've got to move, and my Republican colleagues
have got to be willing to move this bill and
at least force the Democrats with the talking filibuster to
get back to something that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The American people want to know that we're working.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And at a minimum, we've got to be fighting as
Republicans to show that we're government can work when we're
given the keys to the place.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And in twenty twenty four November.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
They gave us the House, they gave us the Senate,
and they gave us the White House. And though margins
are slim, if we stand together, united, we can move
the needle.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, Congressman, I'm so with you there, I'm so
with you. I'm ready to move to your district and
vote for you. Honestly, let's go plus now quick plug.
For North Carolina, you guys have some of the most
amazing barbecue. Oh yes, that vinegar based barbecue is something
else that you don't really get anywhere else really but
for North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But that's on the eastern part of the state. We
have the ketchup based on the western part of the states.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I've yet to try it. I've got to try that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Come have lexing and barbecue and you'll love that just
as well as you do the vinegar base.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I want two points that you made I think
that are really good. Number one here is you mentioned
that we've got work to do. I agree with that
from you know, every good policy maker such as yourself,
needs to be a good politician as well and a
good campaigner so you can keep making the policy. And
the midterms historically don't go great for Republicans. We've seen
(11:59):
a lot of Republicans I'm going to use the term
jumping ship, but for a myriad of reasons not signing
up to come back on Ice, immigration, all of that
stuff has been an issue with some Hispanics. I see
that and with other constituencies as well, but there were
some inroads made, I think with Hispanics. So do you
(12:20):
think that there's going to be enough of an offset
and some of the wins that the President talked about
in that state of the Union to offset some of
the downside that we're seeing politically, so that Democrats don't
capitalize on that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I am still bullish Rich on how we're going to
do this fall. And I'm bullish primarily because of several
things that we're seeing and hearing. One, Fundraising is going
extremely well for the NRCC, and we seem to be
outpacing the Democrats. So there are those that are willing
to invest. That tells me they recognize the importance of
(12:58):
the moment that we're in. So folks willing to give
that's critical. The other thing that we're seeing is there's
just going to be more and more commercials that write
themselves out of that speech the other night that the
President gave, and we see Democrats sitting on their hands
and not responding. And when you see that, it so
much of it seems to be wrapped up in Trump
(13:20):
Derangement syndrome TDS is real, I tell people, and I
think that folks are going to get motivated. Listen when
you have a contrast election. And we had a contrast
election in the fall of twenty twenty four when you
contrasted Kamala Harris and her lack of vision and her
lack of leadership alongside Donald Trump. The American people turned
(13:43):
out and they spoke. Now, this is going to be
another contrast election, and I think the pictures were drawn.
I think that speech will prove to be so critical
going forward in the months ahead. I know people say,
you know, nine months is an eternity in politics. It is.
But I think what you saw is really just evidence
(14:06):
of the realities that are happening right now, and the
American people, when push come to shove, they're going to
stand up. And the third reason I'm most excited and
bullish is I believe we put the principles in place
to see this economy begin to roar again, just like
it did in President Trump's first term, just prior to COVID,
and I think that we're poised to see some incredible
(14:28):
wins in twenty twenty six economically, and folks come September
October are going to be able to vote on the economy.
They're going to be able to vote on the leadership
that President Trump, and if the Senate will get off
their butts and it pass to Save America Act, the people
are going to be able to vote and say that
there's a functional government that made it happen, and we're
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willing to fight to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
With the Save Act.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to ever put you in a position
where you're going to bind with Leader Thun, But what
is going on with Leader thuon what is going on
in this Senate?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, Leiderthune can only I guess he can only deal
with the numbers he's got, and he's got a thin margin.
I guess the question is the two or three or
four that are creating the holdout usual suspect being.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Able to move it. That's the yeah, and that's going
to be the problem.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And that's why we've got to have people contacting their
US senators. I mean, this is a ninety five percent
issue for Republicans that are in favor of it. Seventy
one percent of Democrats believe that people should show a
photo ID when they vote to prove that they are
who they say they are.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And that's just common sense.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And so really and truly I believe that that we
need to be just loading up the offices of every
senator with.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Phone calls, email pressures, everything, get to work and make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right, now, Two things quickly, eran, I see that
we took a lot of action with Mexico. There's some
things happening with Cuba which are unbeknownst to a lot
of people. Ambassador Huckabee about I don't know, two or
three hours ago telling his people all but short of
evacuate Jerusalem, evacuate Israel, other governments are doing the same.
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Don't know what you can say, how you could say,
but it seems like an action on Iran is imminent.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Your thoughts, well, the President told us about a week
to ten days ago that if we didn't have a resolution,
that ten to fifteen days was going to be plenty
of time. That's all I know, and the President made
that clear. The President has also made clear that he's
got to hear the words from the Iranians. We will
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not have a nuclear weapon, We do not intend to
have a nuclear weapon, and we understand that the United
States will always stop us from being a nuclearized ran
And honestly, until that happens, everything is on the table,
everything is loaded. The President has been giving diploma, will
see a chance at every turn, but again the realities
(17:04):
are staring us in the face.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Congressman Mark Harris, you're a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot.
For people who said, man, I love this guy, he's
competing with you for the best head of hair and radio,
how do they how do they donate to your campaign
and help you get reelected to keep serving America.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Well, they can obviously go to Mark Harris for Congress
Dot oorg, no breaks, Just Mark Harris for Congress dot
org and they can go to our campaign website. They
can always check us out on Twitter all the time
at Rep.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Mark Harris NC. And we would love to be able to.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Communicate outstanding, Sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm definitely gonna check out that Lexington BBQ little ketchup,
love ketchup. If you know anything about the Puerto Ricans,
we ketchup on everything.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
God bless you, sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
God bless you. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Rich Yes, sir, you bet
All right, America, welcome back. As promised, we've got congressman
from the great state of Carolina, sir, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey Rich, how are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:13):
I'm doing great, Mark Harris.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Always a pleasure to have you on the show, to
talk with you, to get an update on what's going
on in the swamp. You're one of the good guys
that still spends time in district, so you don't get
too affected by what's going on in the swamp. But
I want to get your take on a couple of things,
because obviously there's a lot going on in the news.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Been very busy.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hillary Clinton appearing before her Congressional committee to give her deposition.
It wasn't on Capitol Hill. A lot of people were
upset that it was happening in her own backyard at
the Performing Arts Center in Chappaqua, some saying that she
in fact is a performing artist herself and trying to
throw the president under the bus. But what's your assessment
(00:57):
on what's going on there. I do agree that it
is a political win to have her have to be
called to the carpet, but beyond that, I don't know
what we get from this.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
So bring us up to speed.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Well, that's a great point that you make her at
several great points. In fact, I was interested to watch
her yesterday during that press conference following the deposition, and
of course it was interesting. All she wanted to talk
about was process and how she felt like it was
a waste of time because.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
They were repeating things over and over again and again.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Just focused on process and sort of the rules of
the hearing. I find that fascinating because the Clintons refused.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Over and over again to even show up for this event.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
And then it took recognizing that even Democrats on the
Oversight Committee were going to vote in favor of holding
them in contempt in order to get it to the floor.
And so the very night before we were to take
the vote on the floor of the US House, to
the Clinton's incontent, and I guess they started thinking, you know,
(02:04):
Peter Navarro went to jail for this, Steve Bannon spent
time in jail for this, and no one's above the law.
I think that really is at the root of all
of this. Americans want to know that nobody is above
the law and that people are going to be treated
equally and fairly when it comes to our justice system,
so they just kept putting it off until finally they
(02:26):
got their hearts right, I guess, and decided they would
work it out to do the deposition, and they.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Worked with Chairman Comer the arrangements for all of that.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Again, I'm not on Oversight Committee, so I don't know
all of the ins and outs and details, but I
do know that I really believe that yesterday was really
more of the warm up act, if you will, for
what was going to come today, because I think that
the relationship. She kept saying that she really didn't know Epstein,
that she hadn't manage or anything. I found that interesting
(03:00):
cause the records that I've seen say that the Clintons
in the Clinton White House, Epstein visited the White House
seventeen times, so I guess in those seventeen times she
never was around or either Bill never introduced him to her.
But nevertheless, I think there is much more to be
gleaned from the president former president's testimony that's coming today.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I agree. I think that's a good point.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And my thinking here again is I think there's value
in the political process of things in Congress doing what
it does in Oversight, But I feel a lot of
people that call the show and things like that, they're
expecting to see Hillary Clinton marched out of Congress in handcuffs,
you know, And I think obviously this is fact finding, right,
(03:47):
we're trying to correct the record. I don't see maybe
there'll be a referral for criminal charges in the future,
but we've seen these referrals in the past.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
The only time I've seen them really take root is
the ones you've mentioned Steve mannon Peter nov right, those
are the ones that have ever materialized. So in that thinking,
and if you have different thinking, that's fine. What's the
end of this, right, because we saw the Benghazi hearings
and that was a very big deal. But with that
(04:16):
being said, where do we end up with Hillary Clinton
in this deposition, in this effort?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, I think what you're going to see is you're
going to continue to see more information, more fact finding
that the Oversight Committee is seeking to do. But I
do think that one thing leads to another, and I
think that they're just trying to maybe connect some dots.
There were more names even yesterday. I think that Chairman
Comer reference that maybe have hearings for so again, I
(04:45):
think there's more information they're looking for. I think that
there's so much that happened with the Epstein files. I mean,
we're talking three million pages to go through and so
many of those things. If they are past the statue
of limitations, I don't know, but I do know that
this really, the whole thing of shame is what has
(05:05):
seeming to take more effect than anything. Yeah, and that's
people resigning their jobs, losing their positions and all those
kinds of things. So I think there's gonna be more
of that now. I think we have a responsibility to
expose those that are guilty and treat them the way.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
The Justice Department would be expected to treat them.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, I agree with that. And something you said, you know,
shame is great. My parents are from Puerto Rico, and
when I was a kid, there was a you know,
my mother would constantly, you know, as when we got
in trouble, she would say, stop being on seen beguenza,
which is without shame, right, and I'll put some shame
on that face. And that was a big deal growing up.
(05:44):
Was to make sure you know you have some shame
and somebody who I feel has none. Bill Gates, Right,
Bill Gates has none. He says, Oh, I'm so sorry.
Apparently the guy was a heartless, a dealer of children
to pedophiles. And it just it blows me away. How
this man is indicted in one country for his vaccine
(06:05):
abuses and whatnot, yet he's still lauded by and large
in America as some sort of hero.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
How do we have this bifurcation effects.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, it is a tragedy.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It speaks more to the culture and the decline we've
seen in the culture than anything else. And I think
that more than anything, we've got to restore confidence and
restore fate that the American people can have in our
justice system, which is the reason I think that there's
been so much effort that has gone into this. But
we also remember that we are in nation of laws,
(06:39):
and we've got to follow those laws, and we've got
to make sure we have evidence, and we can't just
be hearsay. It's got to be evidence that we can
take somebody, indict them, charge them, and then try them,
and then sentence them if indeed they're found guilty.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
And I think that takes time.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
And that's one of the things that I know is
frustrating to the American people to see those the time
that is taking to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, for sure. Now I want to switch gears a
little bit because, unlike many of the guests that I
have on this program, you have the ability and work
in Congress. So when people are, you know, watching the
State of the Union on TV, you know, you get
to be a part of all the fun and all
the action. Talk to me about how awkward that was,
And I know there's a lot of awkward moments in
(07:27):
your line of work. You know, a lot of people
think it's glamorous, but it's not all it's cracked up
to be right and same as mine.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And sometimes people think this is so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You have no idea what goes on behind the scenes,
But give us the behind the scenes on those moments.
We saw the President doing an amazing job, I feel,
unifying the nation in saying, you know, let's stand up
for protecting the citizenry and and your colleagues giving a
proverbial FU to the American people.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, we could talk for hours about the State of
the Union address because it was so phenomenal. I mean,
you could talk about just the speech itself and the
way he delivered it, and how he laid out what
the situation was that he inherited after four miserable years
with Joe Biden, and then to talk about what he
has sought to do in moving the America First agenda
(08:21):
and what we have been able to do in these
first thirteen months that he's been in office, and it's amazing.
I mean, from spending cuts of one point six trillion
dollars which was part of the One Big Beautiful Bill.
First time in history that mandatory spending has seen those kind.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Of cuts, and look, it's not enough.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
We have more work to do, but it was a start,
and the other things that he has accomplished, and then
to talk about the things that he sees going forward.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It was just a phenomenal speech.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And then you mix in with that having the gold
winning hockey team that came out from into the press
area and stood there before it with those gold medals
around their neck. It was a unifying moment for the country,
the individuals, and he reached out to and told the
most fascinating stories real American heroes that have seen the
(09:13):
providential hand of God work in their lives and they've
risked it all for freedom and for this nation and
to recognize them.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It was just a phenomenal night in so many ways.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And yet when probably one of the most memorable moments
is when he gave everybody the opportunity to respond to
the statement that a primary responsibility we have is to
protect American citizens, not necessarily illegal immigrants, and he just
asked us simply to stand up and for the other side,
(09:47):
my colleagues across the aisle.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
To not be willing to stand for that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Was just it was heartbreaking, and it was infuriating and
at the same time not surprising because of the message
is that they continue to put forward. So, I mean,
it was an incredible night. The electricity in the room
was just almost palpable. You could sense the excitement.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
But you know, we've got work to do.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, listen, I've been talking again about things that
they need to be doing over in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Things we've passed.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
We've got to get to the Department of Homeland Security
open back up and operating. This is serious stuff. And
the Save America Act that is just sitting there in
the Senate. They've got to move, and my Republican colleagues
have got to be willing to move this bill and
at least force the Democrats with the talking filibuster to
get back to something that.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
The American people want to know that we're working.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And at a minimum, we've got to be fighting as
Republicans to show that we're government can work when we're
given the keys to the place.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And in twenty twenty four November.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
They gave us the House, they gave us the Senate,
and they gave us the White House. And though margins
are slim, if we stand together, united, we can move
the needle.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, Congressman, I'm so with you there, I'm so
with you. I'm ready to move to your district and
vote for you. Honestly, let's go plus now quick plug.
For North Carolina, you guys have some of the most
amazing barbecue. Oh yes, that vinegar based barbecue is something
else that you don't really get anywhere else really but
for North Carolina.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But that's on the eastern part of the state. We
have the ketchup based on the western part of the states.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I've yet to try it. I've got to try that.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Come have lexing and barbecue and you'll love that just
as well as you do the vinegar base.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I want two points that you made I think
that are really good. Number one here is you mentioned
that we've got work to do. I agree with that
from you know, every good policy maker such as yourself,
needs to be a good politician as well and a
good campaigner so you can keep making the policy. And
the midterms historically don't go great for Republicans. We've seen
(11:59):
a lot of Republicans I'm going to use the term
jumping ship, but for a myriad of reasons not signing
up to come back on Ice, immigration, all of that
stuff has been an issue with some Hispanics. I see
that and with other constituencies as well, but there were
some inroads made, I think with Hispanics. So do you
(12:20):
think that there's going to be enough of an offset
and some of the wins that the President talked about
in that state of the Union to offset some of
the downside that we're seeing politically, so that Democrats don't
capitalize on that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I am still bullish Rich on how we're going to
do this fall. And I'm bullish primarily because of several
things that we're seeing and hearing. One, Fundraising is going
extremely well for the NRCC, and we seem to be
outpacing the Democrats. So there are those that are willing
to invest. That tells me they recognize the importance of
(12:58):
the moment that we're in. So folks willing to give
that's critical. The other thing that we're seeing is there's
just going to be more and more commercials that write
themselves out of that speech the other night that the
President gave, and we see Democrats sitting on their hands
and not responding. And when you see that, it so
much of it seems to be wrapped up in Trump
(13:20):
Derangement syndrome TDS is real, I tell people, and I
think that folks are going to get motivated. Listen when
you have a contrast election. And we had a contrast
election in the fall of twenty twenty four when you
contrasted Kamala Harris and her lack of vision and her
lack of leadership alongside Donald Trump. The American people turned
(13:43):
out and they spoke. Now, this is going to be
another contrast election, and I think the pictures were drawn.
I think that speech will prove to be so critical
going forward in the months ahead. I know people say,
you know, nine months is an eternity in politics. It is.
But I think what you saw is really just evidence
(14:06):
of the realities that are happening right now, and the
American people, when push come to shove, they're going to
stand up. And the third reason I'm most excited and
bullish is I believe we put the principles in place
to see this economy begin to roar again, just like
it did in President Trump's first term, just prior to COVID,
and I think that we're poised to see some incredible
(14:28):
wins in twenty twenty six economically, and folks come September
October are going to be able to vote on the economy.
They're going to be able to vote on the leadership
that President Trump, and if the Senate will get off
their butts and it pass to Save America Act, the people
are going to be able to vote and say that
there's a functional government that made it happen, and we're
(14:49):
willing to fight to make it happen.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
With the Save Act.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to ever put you in a position
where you're going to bind with Leader Thun, But what
is going on with Leader thuon what is going on
in this Senate?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Well, Leiderthune can only I guess he can only deal
with the numbers he's got, and he's got a thin margin.
I guess the question is the two or three or
four that are creating the holdout usual suspect being.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Able to move it. That's the yeah, and that's going
to be the problem.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
And that's why we've got to have people contacting their
US senators. I mean, this is a ninety five percent
issue for Republicans that are in favor of it. Seventy
one percent of Democrats believe that people should show a
photo ID when they vote to prove that they are
who they say they are.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And that's just common sense.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And so really and truly I believe that that we
need to be just loading up the offices of every
senator with.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Phone calls, email pressures, everything, get to work and make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right, now, Two things quickly, eran, I see that
we took a lot of action with Mexico. There's some
things happening with Cuba which are unbeknownst to a lot
of people. Ambassador Huckabee about I don't know, two or
three hours ago telling his people all but short of
evacuate Jerusalem, evacuate Israel, other governments are doing the same.
(16:14):
Don't know what you can say, how you could say,
but it seems like an action on Iran is imminent.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Your thoughts, well, the President told us about a week
to ten days ago that if we didn't have a resolution,
that ten to fifteen days was going to be plenty
of time. That's all I know, and the President made
that clear. The President has also made clear that he's
got to hear the words from the Iranians. We will
(16:40):
not have a nuclear weapon, We do not intend to
have a nuclear weapon, and we understand that the United
States will always stop us from being a nuclearized ran
And honestly, until that happens, everything is on the table,
everything is loaded. The President has been giving diploma, will
see a chance at every turn, but again the realities
(17:04):
are staring us in the face.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Congressman Mark Harris, you're a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot.
For people who said, man, I love this guy, he's
competing with you for the best head of hair and radio,
how do they how do they donate to your campaign
and help you get reelected to keep serving America.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Well, they can obviously go to Mark Harris for Congress
Dot oorg, no breaks, Just Mark Harris for Congress dot
org and they can go to our campaign website. They
can always check us out on Twitter all the time
at Rep.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Mark Harris NC. And we would love to be able to.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Communicate outstanding, Sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm definitely gonna check out that Lexington BBQ little ketchup,
love ketchup. If you know anything about the Puerto Ricans,
we ketchup on everything.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
God bless you, sir. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
God bless you. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Rich Yes, sir, you bet
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