April 3, 2026 • 60 mins
On Friday night, Rich discusses the breaking news of an F-15 downed by Iran, with one pilot recovered and a surviving crew member still not accounted for as the US dispatches search and rescue operations. Then, are things so bad that roommates are resorting to poisoning one another? Plus, a special Holy Week Flashback on this Good Friday as we revisit our pre-resurrection conversation with Pastor Anthony Fleming, author of the book "Transform: A Practical Guide For Men To Take Action and Get Unstuck" and Senior Pastor at Transform Church in Rutherford and Lyndhurst, NJ (formerly Church Alive, NJ).
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With your host, Rich Valdez.
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What's up, America. I am Rich Valdez, Valdezza with an
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Honored and blessed to be here with each and every
one of you, seventeen blocks from Madison Square Garden here
in New York City at our Times Square Studios. It
is good Friday, and lots to discuss, some good, some
not so good. We're getting reports of an F fifteen
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that has crashed. It is down. The pilots are being rescued.
I understand we may have already retrieved one of the two.
One is still on the loose, if you will, you know,
missing Mia and lots to discuss. We're going to get
to a report on that right now from the Fox News.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Channel, Britney News coming into Fox News Channel. The President
has now been briefed on a down to F fifteen
fighter jet in Iran.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
This is a US fighter jet.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
We are also told a statement from Sencom is expected shortly.
We want to bring in the Chief National Security correspondent,
Jennifer Griffin with more on this.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Jen what are you hearing well?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Trace, We had some details of this alleged down F
fifteen E fighter jet that went down in southwest Iran.
It's in the province that is actually closest to carg Island,
which we've been hearing so much about. We had withheld
reporting on this until now because there was an active
search and rescue operation ongoing. But now that we've learned
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that the President has been briefed on the down to
F fifteen, we are getting some details from open source
online showing that the actual pilot seat from the F
fifteen was seen on the ground, suggesting that the at
least one of the pilots had ejected and the pilot
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was not present at that site where the photo was taken,
so that suggests that one may have survived. At least
there are two pilots and an F fifteen E, and
they would have been flying. We see also some open
source video showing that there were two search and rescue
helicopters that were being refueled mid air in daylight. That
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would suggest again an urgency to that search and rescue mission,
because it would be rare to conduct a search and
rescue mission with low flying helicopters over an area that
is possibly contested. Given that this happened during the daylight hours,
it shows an urgency and a suggestion that some of
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the pilots may have served.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So that report from the Fox News channel. And interestingly,
there's a lot of conflicting information about this about when
the plane was struck, was it refueling, was it just
hit by the Iranians. A lot of questions abound on
this topic, and I'm reaching out to my peeps out
there that have flown these types of planes asking all
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the questions, and as I get that information, I'll bring
it to you. The United States saying they do have
one person that they've just found discovered, you know, ejected
safely in another person that is still out there. And again,
in the fog of war, you don't know what to believe,
what's real, what's not. It's always a good practice to
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question everything you hear, especially during a time of conflict,
because ultimately you can't really telegraph what you're doing to
the enemy. So every time Trump says this is happening,
and that's happening, and it's you know, it's about to happen,
it's in the future, you have to ask yourself, is
that really happening or is he trying to throw off
the scent of what's happening or what he's about to do.
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So that's as much as I've got on that. Now,
this to me underscores exactly why it's so important to
be where we are right to actually be engaged in
this conflict. And I know a lot of people out
there saying, oh, screw Trump, we're fighting Israel's war. I
see it completely differently. In the twenty twenty two years,
(04:28):
I would say that I have been observing politics. I
can tell you that I've always seen Israel to be
not only an ally, but really our henchmen in the
Middle East. Right, they do the dirty work. They have
an incredible intelligence operation in the Mosad, and they get
things done. I mean, don't forget these are the same
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people that we're able to explode the pagers and walkie
talkies of the Hamas people or has a lot. This
is an amazing fee, if you will, when you look
at exactly how they pulled that off. So again, I
think people haven't misunderstood. United States is bigger and stronger
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than Israel. The United States is clearly clearly in the
driver's seat on these issues. We don't lobby Israel. Israel
lobbies US. So when people say, well because of a pack,
but get that right. They're paying people to influence congress
people in another country. If they were in charge, they
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wouldn't be lobbying us. We'd be lobbying them because they'd
be holding the cards. They'd have all the power, And
clearly they don't. And I'm not trying to put them down.
I'm just trying to put down this false assertion that
somehow and Yahoo is in charge of the globe and
that President Trump is subservient to Israel. Couldn't be further
from the truth. Marco Rubio explains exactly what's going on
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with these nukes with Tehran and why we have to
get rid of these radical extremists that run Iran.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Many Americans are asking why did the United States have
to attack Iran? Now, well, let me explain Iran wants
to have nuclear weapons. Of that there is zero doubt.
If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim
is nuclear energy, well they could have nuclear energy like
all the other countries in the world have it, and
that is you import the fuel and you build reactors
above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build
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their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from
the public glare, and they want to enrich that material.
The same equipment that they could use to enrich material
for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to
weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered
every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them
to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they
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have turned it down. But why the attack, Now, Well,
what was Iran trying to do. Iran was trying to
build a conventional shield in essence, have so many missiles,
have so many drones that no one can attack them.
And they were well on their way. We were on
the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles
and so many drones that no one could do anything
about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was
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an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run
by radical Shiah clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the
future ever possess nuclear weapons, And under no circumstances can
they be allowed to hide and protect that program and
their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that
no one can do anything about. This was our last
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best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that conventional shield
that they were trying to build, and the President made
the right decision to wipe it out. Now that is
the goal of this operation, to destroy their conventional missiles
and their drone program so they can't hide behind it
and finally have to deal with the world seriously about
never ever having nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio nailing it right there. I
think he's got it one hundred percent right. That's why
this is so important. That's what's on the line. Again,
it's Good Friday, and I'm gonna do something I don't
normally do. Every now and again, I'll play a flashback
interview of something I did, but usually not the immediate previous.
But last Good Friday, I did an interview with Pastor
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Anthony Fleming, who's the pastor of my church, Transformed Church
in Jersey, and I really enjoyed it and I want
to replay it. I'll do that a little bit later.
I'll bring an excerpt of that, and just giving your
heads up on that. But I also want to talk
about a number of other things. One of the other
things I want to talk about is this story that
I saw in the New York Post, which is about,
of all things, interestingly enough, it's about poison. I think
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you're gonna really be surprised by this one. Definitely not
good Friday material, but I will bring that over to
you as well. Plus I have a Easter Holy Week
message from President Trump that I want to play as well.
So keep it locked right here, folks. I am Rich Valdez.
We are just getting started. Eight seven seven Valdez one
is the phone number, eight seven seven Valdez one. Don't
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move a muscle.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
and he's breaking it down.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Oh he still had some what's his.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Day, Rich Veldez?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
All right?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Ever, mean goes, Welcome back, Rich valdeesk keeping your company
this good Friday. And I want to get into the
jobs report I saw a clip of CNN and the
folks at CNN, who President Trupple likes to call the
fake news CNN fake news, they had a moment of
real news, at least a moment of friendliness toward him,
(09:41):
where they were talking about the latest jobs report numbers,
saying that they came in higher than expectation. With the report,
apparently sixty thousand jobs were forecast and one hundred and
seventy eight thousand jobs is what was reported. Check this out.
I think the expectation was what sixty thousand jobs and
it's one seventy eight. Wow.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah, Look, the job market bounced back in a big
way in March, and that is good news.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Really blowing away expectations.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Blowing away expectations is right. And again this is with
the presumption that these numbers won't be adjusted downward, which
has been a trend coming from Washington, bipartisan trend for
you know, for as long as we've had jobs reports,
and most famously Biden, right, Biden really doing a number
on you know, saying oh, we got this many jobs,
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and then the following went, oh, well we didn't really
have so many, and all sorts of you know, crazy
adjustments coming up. But American workers wage gains slowed down
a little bit in March despite the strong hiring. That's
according to some of the economists, and this is being
reported in Fox Business Hourly Earnings. The average hourly earnings
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rose two tenths of a percent over the month of
March and three point five percent annually, which were lower
than some economists were forecasting according to this piece. Now,
Thevieeru of Labor Statistics on Friday releasing their March Jobs report,
which is what we've been talking about, showing that the
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US economy added one hundred and seventy eight thousand jobs
for the month of March, with obviously a huge upside
because the economists were pulled by the firm LSEG and
they anticipated only sixty thousand jobs. So that's good news,
right for trumpito for the United States, presuming all holds well.
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In the following report, the report also found at the
average earnings, like I told you, didn't increase the way
they wanted to. These readings represent a little bit of
a slow down in wage growth from the figures that
were reported in February, when wages were up four tenths
of a percentage point from the previous month and three
point eight percent year over year. Additionally, the report found
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that the average work week was shorter than expected, at
thirty four point two hours, below the thirty four point
three reading that it had in February. Economists again saying
that this is, you know, more of what they expected
would happen. These guys are banking on America to fail. Sadly,
the average hour pay for private sector employees was thirty
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seven dollars and thirty eight cents in March, up from
thirty seven dollars and twenty nine cents in February, and
it was thirty six dollars and eleven cents in March.
So that's what they're talking about right there. Anyway, I'm
going to get into this, you know, because reading the
numbers doesn't really do it. You really got to have
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a conversation with somebody who can put it into context.
So I'm going to recommend we reach out to our
resident economist EJ and Tony Jantoni, who actually was nominated
by President Trump to be the Director of the Bureau
of Labor Statistics until he withdrew his nomination, to continue
his very important work at the Heritage Foundation. So let's
reach out to EJ and TONI and see if we
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can get him on for Monday or Tuesday. And I
want to continue our discussion here because there's a lot
to discuss, I think, right, I think there's plenty to discuss.
There was this in addition to the poisoning story, which
I'm going to do in a moment, there was also
all right, well that's that. All right, So I'll pause
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right here, We'll make that a short segment, and we'll
come right back and we will talk about some of
this poisoning stuff before we get into our flashback conversation
with that pastor Anthony Fleming. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
This is America. This is America.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
President Donald takes rough. Mister President, welcome to the program Sert.
Speaker 11 (14:01):
Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
Speaker 12 (14:04):
I know you very well, and I have.
Speaker 11 (14:05):
I listened, but I have a lot of people that
listen and they love your show, and I appreciate it
very much.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, I mean, he goes, welcome back, Rich Valdez,
keeping your company here on this good Friday. And I
want to get into this poisoning stuff, right I've been
talking about it for a minute. It fascinates me. Right,
imagine if you have a problem with someone that you
care about, someone that means a lot to you, someone
that you can't stand, right, or all three right, somebody
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that you love and somebody can't stand and you all
live together.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Let's say a married couple and a roommate, or the
married couple take exception and umbridge with one another, and
now they want to off the other person by poisoning them.
This is the latest thing I've been seeing now. The
first case I saw was a couple of years ago,
more than a couple, probably about eight years ago, and
I think it went to trial in twenty twenty one.
But just last week and last month there were cases
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just like these, And let me tell you, they boggle
the mind. Right. I could never imagine somebody being so
hell bent on I don't know, getting rid of somebody
that they would poison them. But listen to this. This
is from ABC News, just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
Well, concerning warning for couples.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Now.
Speaker 12 (15:21):
A new DHS intelligence note obtained by ABC News shows
domestic partners are increasingly using chemical and biological toxins to
kill their partners. The data finding that people intend on
harming or killing their partners are turning to poisons like cyanide,
often sourced from online black markets or made at home.
The document highlighting the case of a Colorado dentist convicted
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of first degree murder after gradually poisoning his wife's protein shakes.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Hold on a second, so let me get it straight.
That's exactly what I thought it was. I'm not feeling
shorty no more. I don't like you anymore. I am
going to poison you like this dentist. This crazy dentist
poisoned his wife. Let me go to whatever whatever dot
com and pay for express delivery to get my cyanide?
Are you kidding me? This is so wild? Yeahead, let
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it play.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
Speaking our chief investigative course bind Aaron Kntursky. He's been
following this for so clearly the trend is so alarming,
DHS had to issue a warning.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
So what's going on erin, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Pretty astounding, Kira when you think about it. But they
have seen increasing numbers of cases where a husband or
wife or other domestic partner is turning to these poisons.
In large part, the authorities think because they can often
mimic natural deaths. Sometimes they can conceal themselves, and sometimes
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they are slow to release, so the death can occur gradually,
and you might not pinpoint an exact cause. Perhaps they're
hoping to get away with it in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Obviously they're hoping to get away with it. That's why
they're using killmypartner dot com and express delivery to do it.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But these substances have been increasingly turned to by domestic partners,
the authorities say, and so much so that the Department
of Homeland Security is now warning law enforcement to be
on the lookout for these black market chemicals and when
they respond to domestic situations, to understand that these poisons
may be present.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Man, now that wasn't the only case of this type
of thing happening. That was just a few days ago.
You also had just a few weeks ago this case
out of I forget where it is. But let me
tell you about the roommates, right, a married couple that
had an extra room and they rented it to somebody,
and they catch this guy on a nanny cam. He's
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on some sort of you know, recording with a hazmat suit,
spray and all sorts of crazy stuff. This one you
can't miss and you've probably seen this already, but just
in case, here's a refresher.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
This morning shocking footage inside a California home. A couple
says this is their roommate in a gas mask covering
their food, kitchen and pantry with insect poison. This has
been a nightmare, total nightmare. Billy Hopper and her husband
David say they've had repeated problems with their roommate, forty
two year old Timothy Bradbury. They installed security cameras inside
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their Santa Clarita house after they say their clothes were
cut up, their property destroyed, and their food was thrown away.
But recently they started having serious health issues. I've been
so sick this past year that i haven't been able hardly.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Do anything because of this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
My husband's been sick.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
We were both in the er within the last two weeks.
They say. Their doctors suggested they might have been poisoned.
They checked out the footage from the cameras and this
is what they saw, covering everything from their groceries to
the coffee pot they used daily.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Again, just to reiterate what he's saying, this dude is
spraying the kitchen as if he was repainting their kitchen
cabinets and refinishing all of their food. They had dishes
in a dish drainer to the sink. He's spraying those two.
I mean, he spray and everything with what looks like
like roach poisoner, one of those things to kill flies.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It's infuriating it.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
It's really heartbreaking too to see somebody who's has mental
health problems doing something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
They called the authorities and the Santa Clarita Sheriff's office
is when they made contact with Bradbury. He barricaded himself
inside and it took two hours before he eventually surrendered.
Investigators say family members told them Bradbury has a mental disability.
He was arrested for attempted poisoning, but he's already been released.
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Who's the hoppers learned while speaking with us.
Speaker 11 (19:39):
I just wonder if they're going to make him stay away.
I just wonder if we're going to have to be
back being scared to death again or not.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
That's that's what I worry about.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, that's my fear.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
We had no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We thought we didn't know. We thought they really at
least keep him for a little bit.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
We tried to contact Bradbury's attorney, but we did not
hear back. The DA will now consider charges, and that
includes a potential FELONYC count of attempted poisoning.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, attempted poisoning. What did you think this guy's
goal was to give him a stomach ache for them
to become a little bit ill or was he trying
to kill these people? And I guess that's what they're
going to have to try and prove. But if I
were those people, I'd feel exactly like they do. I'd think, man,
this guy tried to kill me. This guy was trying
to you know that stuff kills bugs and whatnot, and
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he was putting it in Candidad right in large quantity,
all over their stuff. So forgive me for being skeptical
that I don't want to see this guy. California is
a wild, wild place now, just to put a cap
on this, this reminds me of a case that occurred,
like I said, about six seven, eight years ago and
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went to trial I think in twenty twenty one, but
eerily similar and just wild stuff that happens. Listen to
this one more report and you'll start to think, Man,
there really is a theme in these things. Check this out.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
Wild former student at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania is under
arrest tonight, accused of slowly poisoning his roommate by lacing
his milk and his mouthwash with a dangerous chemical. The
two had been roommates for years, the victims saying he
thought they were friends, but the poisoning isn't the only
charge the suspect is now facing.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Here's ABC's Alex Pereess, a.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Lehigh University student, is behind bars tonight after police say
he had been trying to kill his roommate for several months.
Prosecutor say twenty two year old Yukai Yang from China
faces as several charges, including attempted homicide and aggravated assault.
Authority say the chemistry major carried out the attempted murder
plot inside his storm, slowly and discreetly putting a poisonous
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metal known as thallium and possibly other chemicals in his
roommate Juwan Royal's milk and mouthwash.
Speaker 15 (21:51):
Mister Royle experienced extreme pain in his lower extremities, as
well as severe burning and numbness.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
Royal, who had been roommates with Yang for several years
and thought they were friends. First reported his symptoms to
police back in March, dizziness, shaking, and vomiting. That's when
his blood tested positive for thallium. Back in April, Yang
was arrested and released on bail for damaging Royal's television
bed and desk and writing enward, get out of here
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in black marker Tom. According to police, Yang told them
he bought the poisonous chemical but plan to use it
on himself if he didn't do well on exam's. Royal
is said to be recovering but still suffering from side effects.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That is wild. Okay, So I wasn't trying to kill
those guys. I was trying to kill myself. Bravo, Sierra bs.
I don't buy it, not even a little bit. Again,
this guy ended up getting in all sorts of trouble.
This is an old clip from several years ago. This
went to trial back in twenty twenty one. But I
just wanted you to hear the case. Similar Again, roommates
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don't like each other. Next thing you know, they're trying
to poison you. That is crazy stuff and nobody, nobody
should sleep on that you've got to be real careful
about the people that you're around. And sadly, in all
of these cases, every last one of them, it was
the person that they lived with. That's a shame. Anyway,
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I want to leave you with some positive thoughts before
we get into our Flashback Friday interview with Pastor Anthony
Fleming from Transformed Church in Rutherford and Lyndhurst, New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
And it is a.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Message on Holy Week from El Trompito, Donaldus Magnus to
forty fifth and forty seventh President of these United States,
El pressI, then the Donald J. Trump, and here we go.
Check this out.
Speaker 15 (23:43):
This Holy Week, I'm proud to join with Christians across
the country and around the world to celebrate the most
glorious miracle and all of time, the resurrection of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In his life, Christ displayed
true humility. In his death, he modeled true love, and
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in his resurrection from the tomb, he proved that even
death itself will not silence those who place their trust
in Almighty God, as it says in Gospel of John,
For God so loved the world that he gave his
only son for whoever believes in Him should not perish,
but have eternal life. Eternal life, such beautiful words. This
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Eastern millions of Christians all over the globe will be
reminded that because of what Jesus did on the Cross,
all of us can live every day with hope in
God's promise, knowing that in the end evil and wickedness
will not prevail. In this spirit of joy and renewal,
this Easter, we also celebrate the extraordinary resurrection of faith
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and religion in America. As I have often said, to
be a great nation, you must have religion and you
must have God. Churches across the nation on Sunday the
pews will be fuller, younger, and more faithful than they
have at any time in many, many years. Religion is
growing again in our country for the first time in decades.
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Happy Easter to all. May God bless you. May God
bless the United States of America. Our country is doing
so well like never before.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Thank you that there is a Holy Week message from
El Trumpito DONALDUS Magnus, the forty fifth and forty seventh
President of these United States. Straight ahead our conversation with
Pastor Anthony Fleming from transformed church and some closing thoughts
from me, don't go anywhere. I'm rich child asked, this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Is America, this is a merry.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Nearly two thousand years ago, during the Sacred Week, the
living Son of God entered Jerusalem and triumph. Soon after,
the savior of mankind, who brought truth and light into
the world, was betrayed, arrested and tried, beaten and nailed
to a cross, and crucified. For our sake, he gave
up his life, and as the very great Reverend Billy
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Graham once said, God proved his love on the cross.
When Christ hung and bled and died, it was God
saying to the world I love you. Those are beautiful
words from a great man.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Frank right, what's up, America. It's Rich Valdez. So check
this out. I want to bring you a very special
Good Friday guest. Now, this guy is not just a pastor.
He's somebody has his own personal story, and we're going
to get into his story of how he came from
Australia to the United States and the next segment and
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how he got to discover the missing piece and explode
the ministry that God gave him. But right now, I
want to get his reaction to some of the things
that you just heard President Trump saying about Easter, about
the resurrection, as well as the mocking of Christianity and
Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live. Welcome, sir, Pastor Anthony Fleming.
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It's an honor.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Yeah, thanks so much, sir.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
Yeah, it's a special time of year obviously for Christians,
and the media is kind of known for loving to
mock Christians. They don't seem to mark many other religions,
but they'll definitely mark the Fith. I think it's obviously
a beautiful thing that we have a fairly bold, well
not a fairly bold, a bold president, someone who's not
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afraid to say what he believes. It's interesting that so
many other people have said what they believe, but they
kind of make it very general, I think, and he
just goes after it, and to be honest, I think
that's refreshing.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I agree. And I think it also kind of tackles
the problem that a lot of people think that there
should be a to borrow a term from a long
time ago, a war between a separation between church and state,
and this I think is is alive from the enemy.
If I can right now saying politics and religion or
things you shouldn't talk about. I think those are the
two main things you should talk about.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, Well it is a fallacy because here's what
people often do. They say I'm not religious, and then
therefore they say I have no beliefs. The essence of
religion is belief, and so politics is the outworking of
our beliefs. And so you can't not have beliefs in
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politics because you're saying right, you're saying wrong, you're saying good,
you're saying bad, and that is the essence of what
we believe. Therefore, it is in essence religious. Now should
we be forcing our religion in essence on people. No,
But at the same time you have to say right
and wrong. The Ten Commandments were foundational obviously throughout the
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Western world, and created a civil society, a better society
by saying don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, don't commit adultery,
don't cover it. Those were things that were foundational that
help humanity flourish.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Really well, put and where we are today from your view,
and I guess your view is really unique because you
weren't born in the United States, so you have this
juxtaposition of living in Australia. But I can tell you
I've seen things go downhill since.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
When I was a kid, everybody, I thought everybody was
a Christian, right, it was okay to go to church,
it was okay to talk about God. As I got older,
I was like, oh my gosh, you guys don't do that.
What's going on here? Right? And it's almost criticized. What's
your view? How have you observed that?
Speaker 10 (30:16):
Yeah, gosh, it's interesting because I came from Australia at nineteen,
went to Liberty University, which was a very deep dive
pro Republican, obviously pro faith, you know, environment, and that
was different for me. Went back to so I came
back to America and then I went to conferences and
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leadership conferences back in the day and really was discouraged.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
From talking ever about politics.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
But it wasn't until I think the political realm started
stepping on areas that I felt was so foundational to
life and flourishing that I felt compelled that I had
to talk about it.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
And so when.
Speaker 10 (30:58):
When really our governor of New Jersey at that time,
and then numerous different people went so left wing when
it came to abortion, for instance, and promoting nine month abortions,
I felt so compelled during that time that I had
to talk about it because it was blatantly murderous and
a dangerous doctrine. And then the other thing I felt
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like I had to talk about, which was speaking up
for children. And so, you know, as a pastor, someone
who's dealt with sometimes people's problems for over twenty years
on a discipleship level, on a counseling level, on a
marital level, not just what I've dealt with, but also
what many other pastes have dealt with, and even just
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people who are trying to help people navigate what i'd
call soulish wounds of the past. To then somehow dive in.
I don't know how we fell in love with this,
but it was a spiritual thing. We somehow fell in
love to playcate to such a degree. Here's what I'd say.
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It's like we fell in love with compassion but lost
our conviction. So instead of being just compassionate to the individual,
we said, we're gonna overplay that and we're gonna literally
bring in a doctrine of confusion to young children and
so when people started talking about gender neutrality and teaching
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that in education sphere, there was something in me that
I couldn't be silent as a father, as a child
of God, as a pastor, and so I feel like
I had to talk about some of those things. And
actually what I found was I was stepping into sometimes
on some people's toes. But what actually happened was it
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caused Christians to be bolder. It caused them to say, yeah,
that's right, we need to stand up for these things.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
And so there was this.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
It was an interesting time because for me around that
time was also around COVID and different stuff, and it
felt like there was so many voices and all the
voices of social media. But I remember praying one day
and on my way to church, and I felt like
there were so many voices, and I just felt really
convicted that I was to keep building strong men, and
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then I was just speak up for children. And so
that has been one of the things that I've talked about.
And so I think it's important that Christians see the
weightiest matters of the law, the weightiest things in scripture,
which Jesus talked about in Matthew twenty three twenty three,
and he said, if we will wait, what is the weightiest,
we will know how to navigate our faith, our life,
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our voting, our government decisions.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Will know it through the lens of scripture.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Pastor Anthony Fleming, would you say that this conviction that
you got was because you were a pastor or simply
because you are a father and a believer?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
You know, first, it's son of God, right first, it's
I'm forgiven. I'm meant to be a reflection of Jesus,
So that should be primary. And obviously the amount of
time you spend in scripture should obviously help forming you something.
You know, if you just look simply at the Ten
Commandments and you look through them and read them out loud,
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and then you see policies and government officials that seem
to attack them at every moment, you go, well, it
doesn't matter how good you sound, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
How flowery your words are.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
You're attacking the foundations of what is Christianity, the faith America.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
And so I just felt like I had to be
bold there.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
And as a father, I did begin to imagine, like
my own son if he was five, six seven, my
own daughter six seven, eight years old and then teachers
introducing dangerous thoughts to them, like there's certain things that
we don't understand as adults, but then to go in
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to reduce those thoughts as a young child just violates
every bit of common sense, every bit of wisdom that
I can think of. And the you know, as again
someone who's pasted people over the years, your sexual wounds,
I put it that way, your childhood.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
Wounds they carry for years and years.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
So I felt like that was a doctrine that was
basically from Satan. There's no other way to say it.
And it was evil, and I think Christians had to
I still think Christians actually have to be bolder and
clearer on some of.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Those things, while at the same time being loving.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
And gracious to the individual, but standing up for what
it's true.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Love the center, hate the sin.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Yeah, not easy to do, and that's why you need grace,
That's why you need mercy, and that's why you need
to literally say, Jesus helped me. Because sometimes you will
start to hate someone because they're carrying a certain ideology
that's not the spirit at all. But in your own
walk with God, you've got to bring that to God.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
This is America, This is America.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
He's making podcasting great again.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
This is America with Rich Valdez.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And I wanted to do something special. We always for Christmas,
for a good Friday, for those types of things. We
always talk about the importance of these holidays, and there's
you know, we just heard the comments from President Trump
referencing his faith and why we acknowledged a resurrection on Easter.
But I want to talk about that. I want to
talk about the role Christianities playing in America. I want
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to talk about society and culture. And I want to
do it with somebody who's Australian, right, an Australian guy.
He graduated from the same college that my daughter just
graduated from, Liberty University. Shout out to the Flames. And
he's also my pastor, Pastor Anthony Fleming from Church Alive. Welcome, sir.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Yeah, great to be here, my friend. Great to be here,
really is.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So let's let's start there. How do we how do
we end up with this this big, big sound the
alarm sound, the alarm. How do we end up with
this big, big church that's slowly growing or quickly growing
in Bergen County, New Jersey with a guy that was
in Australia not that long ago, saying I'm not going
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to be in the ministry, right, how does that happen?
Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, it's a story.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
So when I'm nineteen, I go to Liberty University. A
year before I really had kind of a reawakening in
my faith, to be honest, and had always had this
desire to go play college tennis. And that was the
door that got opened for me at Liberty University. While
I'm there praying one day, felt called to preach, felt
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like God had put purpose in my heart in a
big way.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
End up meeting my wife there.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
She's from New Jersey, and so we get married a
couple of years later and in four and we were
actually in Australia.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
At the time. She had just finished All Song College.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
We just got married, and her father, who was a
Portuguese speaking pastor in Jersey, asked us, Hey, do you
want to start something here, And to be honest, we
kind of said no. But we prayed about for about
that next thirty days and just felt like it was
an open door and hey, let's step into it. And
so we were kind of laboring away. We felt like
God had given us a dream to reach people for Christ,
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to take them on a journey of a discipleship, to
see life transformation in them, and then lead their families
in a stronger, better way. And I think over time
that just became really our passion. It became of a
thing that we felt like God had given us. And
it's been interesting to see the last six years, to
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be honest, because it was slow growth until about six
years ago, until I felt like the Lord give me
something a bit unique, which was around specifically speaking to
men and really helping them get unstuck. And we now
call it the four pillars of life Spiritual, physical, relational, financial,
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and we challenge men specifically there and the ladies.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Grabbed that, and out of that has come a lot
of growth and a lot of really good things.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
This is quite a story. So you start this church
again at the suggestion of your father in law to say,
let's you know, you guys want to get into ministry.
You're like, I don't know, let me think about it.
I pray about it. Yeah, And at what point do
you get this vision? Was it later? Was it early
on that there's going to be this massive, mega church
growing in Jersey.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
Well, I hate the word mega church, so I will
say that, so I'll join you. I would say.
Speaker 10 (40:19):
It's a growing church to me, megas ten twenty thousand people,
where you're almost there.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
But anyway, good things are happening and it's encouraging.
Speaker 10 (40:29):
I would say this that revelation or insight or vision,
those three words you can use either one.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
It is progressive.
Speaker 10 (40:37):
When I was called by God to preach at nineteen
twenty twenty one, I did feel like in prayer numerous
different times, I felt like I literally saw by faith
large things is the best way to describe it. So
when we really took a long time to grow, I
would say we were five years in one hundred and
fifty people. There was definitely some discouragement around that because
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we felt like something much larger had been placed in
us and it just wasn't happening, you know. But we
kept going to leadership conferences, we kept trying to be
faithful with what we had, We kept building our team,
building the culture, and then over time, I do think
you start to see, man, what is your lane, your
lane of ministry? How what is the flavor of church
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that you're meant to be? And I think it was
when the Lord really gave me Men's transform that the
flavor that I felt like matched probably the best with
my personality, my gifting, my skill set, my even background here.
I made you to be yeah, in college tennis, in
coaching tennis, in athletics, and so forth. I feel like
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I wasn't very pastor as in, like you didn't want
to come and meet me for counseling, if you know
what I mean.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I found counseling boring.
Speaker 10 (41:51):
I didn't want counseling, but I found stirring people to
be more seemed to be my lane and what I
felt like I.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Was to do it. I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
So you said it transcends, right, The vision, the idea
kind of changes, and that's when you found this lynchpin,
if you will. It was focusing on men, men being
the foundation of the family and realizing that's how you grow,
you focus on men. It happened about six years ago.
Do you think there was something missing? And I don't
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mean missing in a detrimental way, I mean missing for years.
I tried to lose weight, and it something eventually worked
for me, and I don't even know what it is.
I think maybe it's really just learning how to count carbs.
But outside of that, yeah, they will right. You don't
know you're drinking them, you're eating them. But something eventually
made sense to me and I said, ah, this is it.
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And it sounds like that was that moment for you.
But was that the only part that you were missing
or in getting to men or was there some other
lesson that you needed to learn yet to get you
to that stage?
Speaker 10 (42:59):
The differently was a big aha moment literally in my backyard.
I felt this phrase is the best way to describe it,
pierce my heart.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Help men win in life. Five words, help men win
in life.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
And it was like that aha moment became a moment
where I felt like I saw the culture we needed
to be honest, was a bit frustrated at our own
small groups at the time.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
I kind of they're okay, they weren't.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
They weren't multiplying, they weren't growing, they weren't producing something
what I would call vibrant or strong. But for ten
years as a past I kept hearing the same four
prayer requests something in the physical realm, the health, something
in your finances, my career, my money's a mess, something
in my relationship, whether it's a broken marriage, whether it's
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just relational drama. And then obviously faith questions, and so
those four areas were almost in every single prayer request
we ever got. So I'm like, wait, we don't so
much have a prayer problem, we might have a application problem,
or we might have a wisdom problem. And then one day,
just reading scripture Proverbst Three fifteen or sixteen, jumped off
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the page, so to speak. It says long life is
in her right hand. It says in her left hand
are riches and honor, and so Probst three or the
entire book is about seeking wisdom, but Probast three talks
about as you seek wisdom, here's the fruit, and the
fruit is long life.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
That's your health, riches, your relationship to career, and.
Speaker 10 (44:24):
Money and honor can only come from to places God
or people. And so what I saw in that was
in the hands of wisdom is the management of these
four buckets that everyone was talking about. And so out
of that and then there's this very unique, very well
not unique, actually very known scripture that most people know,
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to be honest, especially pastors.
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Look two fifty two, Jesus.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
Grew in wisdom, stature, faith with God, favor, with man
and in those four areas is actually the four areas
of life.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
And so we said, men, where are man stuck?
Speaker 10 (45:01):
Where men are sometimes stuck physically, often stuck relationally. Many
times if they're doing well financially, the relational bit or
the spiritual bit doesn't seem to gel. And then you
meet guys who are amazing in their faith, amazing in relationships,
but the other disciplines are really missing often in their world.
And so I felt like we saw that we needed
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not just a culture of grace, we needed a culture
of growth. And so we had to challenge men individually
to get vision in those four areas. And then we
had to hold them accountable and said, man, you said
you wanted to grow here, so we are actually building
a brotherhood that helps you win in life. And then
at the same time these four areas, we're gonna hold
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you accountable. So it's not gonna be bagels once a month.
It's not gonna be some quarterly thing. It needs to
be weekly. It needs to be regular. And you know,
you want to become more. And that's the thing I
actually hear sometimes. I've heard this from Jordan Peterson. He's like,
you know you can be more. And I think when
you talk to men, you realize that they know they
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can be more. They're just not sure why. And I
think there's something in their makeup that actually God has
put in there.
Speaker 9 (46:11):
That they know they can be more.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
And so when you inspire them with the scriptures, with
the grace of God, with the love of God, not
shaming them, but building them up to these four areas,
now they rise, become better husbands, they get their health
under control, they lose weight, they pay off debt, and
then they even start growing in the relationship with God.
And before you know it, good things are happening at home,
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Good things are happening. As a dad, good things are happening,
or they want to get married because they're just kind
of play in the field, so to speak.
Speaker 9 (46:44):
So we just see a lot of really good things
out of that.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
There's so much going on. Yet it's a beautiful day.
You wouldn't think that back in the day Jesus was
on his way to getting hung on across right about now.
Speaker 10 (47:00):
Yeah, no, absolutely, it is a beautiful day outside. Spring
is here. Here's what's interesting about spring that I've been
thinking about a little bit as i've been just praying
and thinking and preparing for the messages. Is spring itself
speaks of resurrection. The seed in the ground that looks
like it's dead, buried, it's dark, and then life comes.
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Winter itself just coming out of a pretty long winter
to be honest, in Jersey, in New York, and you know,
I'm in Jersey and I'm a little bit northern Jersey,
so i feel like we've got longer winter, and I'm like, man,
I'm ready for the sun. But winter it's dark and
it's and it's cold. But then life starts to come.
And so during these times, I think, actually there's parts
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of nature that even speak to us of the resurrection.
And then the other unique thing that I've been thinking
about personally is.
Speaker 9 (47:50):
This the sun rises every day.
Speaker 10 (47:53):
The sun rises every day, and perhaps God in times
past we're saying, man, I'm going to give them such
a sign that one day, yes, my son will die,
but yes my son will rise from the dead, and
I'll remind them of it every single day.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Man, you should be a pastor.
Speaker 9 (48:12):
Well, I'm trying, man, I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Folks are here with Pastor Anthony Fleming, and it's an
impressive message and I think there's people listening right now.
I know there's a lot of people listening right now
that may be inspired by what you've been talking about,
and they don't live close enough to churchill live to
participate in person. What do you recommend to them?
Speaker 9 (48:35):
First? Pray? First, pray if you want to get need
of God.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
He says, if you'll seek me with all your heart,
I will be found by you. Use the Lord's prayer
as a model for worshiping first, thanking first, asking for
your needs, surrendering forgiveness.
Speaker 9 (48:54):
Take yourself through the Lord's prayer.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
That'll draw you close. But then do find a place
where there's life, where there's the gospel is preach, where
people's lives are changing.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
Where you can tell this The best way to describe it.
Speaker 10 (49:09):
If you've ever walked into a restaurant and you smell
the smell the people in the atmosphere, you'll smell it.
Sometimes in the church you'll walk in and you'll go, oh,
there's something going on here that people keep on coming
back for the.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
Great steak, the great chicken, the great whatever whatever they have.
Speaker 10 (49:26):
In a life giving church, there will be life life change,
and there'll be people growing. There'll be people excited, there'll
be joy, and you'll find purpose there to.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Our listeners that are listening right now, and they're saying, man,
this guy's great, but he's got it all together. Things
are fantastic for this guy. And they're not doing fantastic
right now. They're down in the dumps. They're facing something serious.
There are people that lost their kids yesterday in a
shooting in a school yesterday or Thursday. There was the
mother of Rachel Morin was in the White House sharing
what it was like as her daughter was raped. And
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and there's so much ugly things, so many ugly things
that happen in this life, and there are people dealing
with that. And it's great to be upbeat and to
feel good about the resurrection, but there are people who
just aren't there yet. What's your advice to them?
Speaker 10 (50:15):
Gosh, pain is one of our greatest teachers, unfortunately, So
when you say life is not fair, when you say
life is hard, you're actually agreeing with scripture that things
are broken, that things are not the way they're meant
to be. That since the garden hasn't been fair, and
so pain and evil and tragedy has been introduced to
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the world. But we do serve a savior who didn't
just stay afar. He came close, and not just close,
but he literally identified with our struggle, heartache, pain, and
then even went through the worst of pains being crucified
on a cross. And so we do so of a
God that can identify definitely without pain.
Speaker 9 (50:57):
I do think I think it was C. S. Lewis.
Speaker 10 (50:58):
He said, God whispers to us in our pleasures, but
he shouts to us in our pains. And sometimes it
simply says, Hey, the way you're living right now is
not working.
Speaker 9 (51:09):
I have a better way.
Speaker 10 (51:10):
And so if you're going through tragedy, obviously you know
my heart goes out to you. But God is close.
He is near, and he's actually near the broken hearted.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Amen to that. Pastor. Let everybody know how they could
check out one of your sermons. Are they available online?
What's the website? Tell us how to find you?
Speaker 9 (51:29):
Hey, YouTube always works. Church Alive NJ.
Speaker 10 (51:32):
You'd type in and then churchilive dot tv would be
where you could see that wrote a book recently called Transform.
You can check out transform themovement dot com. Any of
those stuff is going to encourage your faith and hopefully
build your life.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Well, there you have it, I mean, he goes. The
book is called Transform. Make sure you've got a copy
for yourself and every single person that you love and
give it to them as a gift. Make sure you
do that. Make sure you go to Church Alive dot
TV stream the sermon. I go to this church. I
vouch for the church. Pastor Anthony's got some solid teaching. Sir,
You're a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot. And I
want to thank you for being here.
Speaker 9 (52:05):
God bless you, Thank you man.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
It was honor being here, my pleasure. So I mean goes.
That is Pastor Anthony Fleming again. He's the pastor senior
pastor over at Transformed Church formerly known as Church Alive.
And that was a conversation we had last Good Friday,
and I wanted to bring it to you as a
Flashback Friday because I thought it was an excellent conversation
and because from that time till this time, I actually
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got a chance to experience the first what they call
season of Transform. And the reason they call it transform
is because it's truly about people transforming their lives through
the ministry of Christ and understanding it that way and
not to get overly spiritual, and on my soapbox, I
am going to say those four buckets he mentioned it
was four categories of physically, spiritually, financially, relationally. This is
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you know, they break it down into like a semester, right,
you go for twelve weeks. And I'd say that's one
of the biggest blessings that's come out of me not
having to be somewhere between nine pm and midnight every
single day, is that I can be there on Mondays
when they ask me to be there. And I've been
going to these transform gatherings and let me tell you,
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absolutely fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I really enjoy the camaraderie and
the things that I've learned, and it does make a difference.
And this is not necessarily a Christian thing per se, right,
it is in the sense of it's in a Christian
church and you're studying Christian scriptures. But I'm saying the
larger idea, the idea of improving yourself in at least
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three of these areas, maybe not the spiritual area. These
are all very generic positive things that everybody should do.
So for all those people that are out there saying,
you know, I've always wanted to get back to church,
it's been a while. Maybe I'll go this Eastern Maybe
I'll go for Christmas. Maybe you should just go to
this Monday night group. And again, I know not everybody's
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in the New Jersey area, and I know that there
are a number. I think there's probably nine or a
dozen other churches across the country that have adopted this
Transform program and those who want to get the book
by Anthony Fleming. It's called Transform the Movement. But I
bring all of this up to say, people by and
large need to improve. We need to do better, not
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just for ourselves and not just for our walk with God,
but more so because of society at large. Right, society
at large is probably the biggest indicator. When you look
at the stories we talked about tonight, people poisoning one another,
people bombing one another, these are our problems that excuse me.
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They aren't things that we want to go through, right,
I think these are things that by and large, we
wish we weren't going through, We wish was not happening.
So how do we get a better resolution on things?
How do we get a better handle on things? How
do we have better I'm going to call it intra
human relations, right, how do we get along better with
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one another? I think that's how when you try to
embrace your faith and live through the fruit of the spirit.
It's obviously a toll order for many of us, at
least it is for me. Ay, I see a pretty
woman and I'm like, hey, shut it, and I am
driving my car and I'm quick to get angry. Road
rage is a thing. But I realize those aren't the
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things that God has designed you or me to do,
or how He's designed us to respond. And there is
a blueprint, all right. The Apostle Paul said, follow me
as I follow Christ. If you don't know how to
do it, just watch him. And there are so many
examples out there, from the Apostle Paul to your local pastor.
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In this instance, it was my pastor. So I'm going
to leave that right there and let you chew on
that for a while. I hope you'll get a copy
of his book. It really is fantastic. Could follow them
on social media Transformed Church and Jay and you can
check out their YouTube page as well. At Transformed Church.
Pastor Anthony Fleming, his lovely wife Miriam Fleming. They do
a fantastic job, great leadership team there, and really just
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good people, good people, and a good church. And the
bigger message it's Good Friday, right, the death and the
resurrection of Christ. And this is where I will get
on my soapbox just briefly and say that Christianity is
a rather absolutist faith, right. It's absolutely rooted in Christ
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being the Messiah, Christ being the Christ, right, Jesus being
the Son of God, God incarnate, both all man and
all God at the same time. And it is this
idea of the triune God living an earthly life you
ever yet never sinning, that is a conundrum for many,
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but the ultimate testament of of comfort for many others. Saying, man,
if this guy did it and he paid the price,
you know, on the cross at Golgotha on Good Friday
two thousand some odd years ago, that gives me a
shot to make it into the pearly white gates. And that,
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you know, simplifying it as I am, is truly the
gospel message. It's Christ's crucifixion, Christ's resurrection and our eternity
in service to Him and in communion with Him. And
I think that's a beautiful thing. So anyway, thanks for listening.
I bid you adieu here and I say, you got
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to stand for something, because if you stand for nothing,
you'll fall for absolutely anything. And the only thing necessary
for evil to triumph is for good people like you
to sit there and do nothing. So start doing something,
and Asta labroxima. Until the next time, America, take care,
good night, and God bless you. I'm Rich Valdez and
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Honored and blessed to be here with each and every
one of you, seventeen blocks from Madison Square Garden here
in New York City at our Times Square Studios. It
is good Friday, and lots to discuss, some good, some
not so good. We're getting reports of an F fifteen
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that has crashed. It is down. The pilots are being rescued.
I understand we may have already retrieved one of the two.
One is still on the loose, if you will, you know,
missing Mia and lots to discuss. We're going to get
to a report on that right now from the Fox News.
Speaker 6 (01:11):
Channel, Britney News coming into Fox News Channel. The President
has now been briefed on a down to F fifteen
fighter jet in Iran.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
This is a US fighter jet.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
We are also told a statement from Sencom is expected shortly.
We want to bring in the Chief National Security correspondent,
Jennifer Griffin with more on this.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Jen what are you hearing well?
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Trace, We had some details of this alleged down F
fifteen E fighter jet that went down in southwest Iran.
It's in the province that is actually closest to carg Island,
which we've been hearing so much about. We had withheld
reporting on this until now because there was an active
search and rescue operation ongoing. But now that we've learned
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that the President has been briefed on the down to
F fifteen, we are getting some details from open source
online showing that the actual pilot seat from the F
fifteen was seen on the ground, suggesting that the at
least one of the pilots had ejected and the pilot
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was not present at that site where the photo was taken,
so that suggests that one may have survived. At least
there are two pilots and an F fifteen E, and
they would have been flying. We see also some open
source video showing that there were two search and rescue
helicopters that were being refueled mid air in daylight. That
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would suggest again an urgency to that search and rescue mission,
because it would be rare to conduct a search and
rescue mission with low flying helicopters over an area that
is possibly contested. Given that this happened during the daylight hours,
it shows an urgency and a suggestion that some of
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the pilots may have served.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
So that report from the Fox News channel. And interestingly,
there's a lot of conflicting information about this about when
the plane was struck, was it refueling, was it just
hit by the Iranians. A lot of questions abound on
this topic, and I'm reaching out to my peeps out
there that have flown these types of planes asking all
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the questions, and as I get that information, I'll bring
it to you. The United States saying they do have
one person that they've just found discovered, you know, ejected
safely in another person that is still out there. And again,
in the fog of war, you don't know what to believe,
what's real, what's not. It's always a good practice to
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question everything you hear, especially during a time of conflict,
because ultimately you can't really telegraph what you're doing to
the enemy. So every time Trump says this is happening,
and that's happening, and it's you know, it's about to happen,
it's in the future, you have to ask yourself, is
that really happening or is he trying to throw off
the scent of what's happening or what he's about to do.
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So that's as much as I've got on that. Now,
this to me underscores exactly why it's so important to
be where we are right to actually be engaged in
this conflict. And I know a lot of people out
there saying, oh, screw Trump, we're fighting Israel's war. I
see it completely differently. In the twenty twenty two years,
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I would say that I have been observing politics. I
can tell you that I've always seen Israel to be
not only an ally, but really our henchmen in the
Middle East. Right, they do the dirty work. They have
an incredible intelligence operation in the Mosad, and they get
things done. I mean, don't forget these are the same
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people that we're able to explode the pagers and walkie
talkies of the Hamas people or has a lot. This
is an amazing fee, if you will, when you look
at exactly how they pulled that off. So again, I
think people haven't misunderstood. United States is bigger and stronger
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than Israel. The United States is clearly clearly in the
driver's seat on these issues. We don't lobby Israel. Israel
lobbies US. So when people say, well because of a pack,
but get that right. They're paying people to influence congress
people in another country. If they were in charge, they
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wouldn't be lobbying us. We'd be lobbying them because they'd
be holding the cards. They'd have all the power, And
clearly they don't. And I'm not trying to put them down.
I'm just trying to put down this false assertion that
somehow and Yahoo is in charge of the globe and
that President Trump is subservient to Israel. Couldn't be further
from the truth. Marco Rubio explains exactly what's going on
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with these nukes with Tehran and why we have to
get rid of these radical extremists that run Iran.
Speaker 8 (06:03):
Many Americans are asking why did the United States have
to attack Iran? Now, well, let me explain Iran wants
to have nuclear weapons. Of that there is zero doubt.
If what they truly wanted, which is what they claim
is nuclear energy, well they could have nuclear energy like
all the other countries in the world have it, and
that is you import the fuel and you build reactors
above ground. That's not what Iran has done. They build
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their reactors and their facilities deep in mountains, away from
the public glare, and they want to enrich that material.
The same equipment that they could use to enrich material
for energy, they could use to quickly enrich it to
weapons grade. So it is clear that they've been offered
every opportunity to have a nuclear program that allows them
to have energy, not weapons, and every single time they
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have turned it down. But why the attack, Now, Well,
what was Iran trying to do. Iran was trying to
build a conventional shield in essence, have so many missiles,
have so many drones that no one can attack them.
And they were well on their way. We were on
the verge of an Iran that had so many missiles
and so many drones that no one could do anything
about their nuclear weapons program in the future. That was
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an intolerable risk. Under no circumstances can a country run
by radical Shiah clerics with an apocalyptic vision of the
future ever possess nuclear weapons, And under no circumstances can
they be allowed to hide and protect that program and
their ambitions behind a shield of missiles and drones that
no one can do anything about. This was our last
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best chance to eliminate that conventional threat, that conventional shield
that they were trying to build, and the President made
the right decision to wipe it out. Now that is
the goal of this operation, to destroy their conventional missiles
and their drone program so they can't hide behind it
and finally have to deal with the world seriously about
never ever having nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio nailing it right there. I
think he's got it one hundred percent right. That's why
this is so important. That's what's on the line. Again,
it's Good Friday, and I'm gonna do something I don't
normally do. Every now and again, I'll play a flashback
interview of something I did, but usually not the immediate previous.
But last Good Friday, I did an interview with Pastor
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Anthony Fleming, who's the pastor of my church, Transformed Church
in Jersey, and I really enjoyed it and I want
to replay it. I'll do that a little bit later.
I'll bring an excerpt of that, and just giving your
heads up on that. But I also want to talk
about a number of other things. One of the other
things I want to talk about is this story that
I saw in the New York Post, which is about,
of all things, interestingly enough, it's about poison. I think
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you're gonna really be surprised by this one. Definitely not
good Friday material, but I will bring that over to
you as well. Plus I have a Easter Holy Week
message from President Trump that I want to play as well.
So keep it locked right here, folks. I am Rich Valdez.
We are just getting started. Eight seven seven Valdez one
is the phone number, eight seven seven Valdez one. Don't
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move a muscle.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
This is America. This is America. He's brown, he's bald,
and he's breaking it down.
Speaker 9 (09:15):
Oh he still had some what's his.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Day, Rich Veldez?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
All right?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Ever, mean goes, Welcome back, Rich valdeesk keeping your company
this good Friday. And I want to get into the
jobs report I saw a clip of CNN and the
folks at CNN, who President Trupple likes to call the
fake news CNN fake news, they had a moment of
real news, at least a moment of friendliness toward him,
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where they were talking about the latest jobs report numbers,
saying that they came in higher than expectation. With the report,
apparently sixty thousand jobs were forecast and one hundred and
seventy eight thousand jobs is what was reported. Check this out.
I think the expectation was what sixty thousand jobs and
it's one seventy eight. Wow.
Speaker 10 (10:03):
Yeah, Look, the job market bounced back in a big
way in March, and that is good news.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
Really blowing away expectations.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Blowing away expectations is right. And again this is with
the presumption that these numbers won't be adjusted downward, which
has been a trend coming from Washington, bipartisan trend for
you know, for as long as we've had jobs reports,
and most famously Biden, right, Biden really doing a number
on you know, saying oh, we got this many jobs,
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and then the following went, oh, well we didn't really
have so many, and all sorts of you know, crazy
adjustments coming up. But American workers wage gains slowed down
a little bit in March despite the strong hiring. That's
according to some of the economists, and this is being
reported in Fox Business Hourly Earnings. The average hourly earnings
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rose two tenths of a percent over the month of
March and three point five percent annually, which were lower
than some economists were forecasting according to this piece. Now,
Thevieeru of Labor Statistics on Friday releasing their March Jobs report,
which is what we've been talking about, showing that the
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US economy added one hundred and seventy eight thousand jobs
for the month of March, with obviously a huge upside
because the economists were pulled by the firm LSEG and
they anticipated only sixty thousand jobs. So that's good news,
right for trumpito for the United States, presuming all holds well.
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In the following report, the report also found at the
average earnings, like I told you, didn't increase the way
they wanted to. These readings represent a little bit of
a slow down in wage growth from the figures that
were reported in February, when wages were up four tenths
of a percentage point from the previous month and three
point eight percent year over year. Additionally, the report found
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that the average work week was shorter than expected, at
thirty four point two hours, below the thirty four point
three reading that it had in February. Economists again saying
that this is, you know, more of what they expected
would happen. These guys are banking on America to fail. Sadly,
the average hour pay for private sector employees was thirty
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seven dollars and thirty eight cents in March, up from
thirty seven dollars and twenty nine cents in February, and
it was thirty six dollars and eleven cents in March.
So that's what they're talking about right there. Anyway, I'm
going to get into this, you know, because reading the
numbers doesn't really do it. You really got to have
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a conversation with somebody who can put it into context.
So I'm going to recommend we reach out to our
resident economist EJ and Tony Jantoni, who actually was nominated
by President Trump to be the Director of the Bureau
of Labor Statistics until he withdrew his nomination, to continue
his very important work at the Heritage Foundation. So let's
reach out to EJ and TONI and see if we
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can get him on for Monday or Tuesday. And I
want to continue our discussion here because there's a lot
to discuss, I think, right, I think there's plenty to discuss.
There was this in addition to the poisoning story, which
I'm going to do in a moment, there was also
all right, well that's that. All right, So I'll pause
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right here, We'll make that a short segment, and we'll
come right back and we will talk about some of
this poisoning stuff before we get into our flashback conversation
with that pastor Anthony Fleming. Don't go anywhere.
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President Donald takes rough. Mister President, welcome to the program Sert.
Speaker 11 (14:01):
Well, thank you, Rich, and thank you for everything.
Speaker 12 (14:04):
I know you very well, and I have.
Speaker 11 (14:05):
I listened, but I have a lot of people that
listen and they love your show, and I appreciate it
very much.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
All right, I mean, he goes, welcome back, Rich Valdez,
keeping your company here on this good Friday. And I
want to get into this poisoning stuff, right I've been
talking about it for a minute. It fascinates me. Right,
imagine if you have a problem with someone that you
care about, someone that means a lot to you, someone
that you can't stand, right, or all three right, somebody
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that you love and somebody can't stand and you all
live together.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Let's say a married couple and a roommate, or the
married couple take exception and umbridge with one another, and
now they want to off the other person by poisoning them.
This is the latest thing I've been seeing now. The
first case I saw was a couple of years ago,
more than a couple, probably about eight years ago, and
I think it went to trial in twenty twenty one.
But just last week and last month there were cases
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just like these, And let me tell you, they boggle
the mind. Right. I could never imagine somebody being so
hell bent on I don't know, getting rid of somebody
that they would poison them. But listen to this. This
is from ABC News, just a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
Well, concerning warning for couples.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Now.
Speaker 12 (15:21):
A new DHS intelligence note obtained by ABC News shows
domestic partners are increasingly using chemical and biological toxins to
kill their partners. The data finding that people intend on
harming or killing their partners are turning to poisons like cyanide,
often sourced from online black markets or made at home.
The document highlighting the case of a Colorado dentist convicted
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of first degree murder after gradually poisoning his wife's protein shakes.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Hold on a second, so let me get it straight.
That's exactly what I thought it was. I'm not feeling
shorty no more. I don't like you anymore. I am
going to poison you like this dentist. This crazy dentist
poisoned his wife. Let me go to whatever whatever dot
com and pay for express delivery to get my cyanide?
Are you kidding me? This is so wild? Yeahead, let
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it play.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
Speaking our chief investigative course bind Aaron Kntursky. He's been
following this for so clearly the trend is so alarming,
DHS had to issue a warning.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
So what's going on erin, which is.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Pretty astounding, Kira when you think about it. But they
have seen increasing numbers of cases where a husband or
wife or other domestic partner is turning to these poisons.
In large part, the authorities think because they can often
mimic natural deaths. Sometimes they can conceal themselves, and sometimes
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they are slow to release, so the death can occur gradually,
and you might not pinpoint an exact cause. Perhaps they're
hoping to get away with it in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Obviously they're hoping to get away with it. That's why
they're using killmypartner dot com and express delivery to do it.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But these substances have been increasingly turned to by domestic partners,
the authorities say, and so much so that the Department
of Homeland Security is now warning law enforcement to be
on the lookout for these black market chemicals and when
they respond to domestic situations, to understand that these poisons
may be present.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Man, now that wasn't the only case of this type
of thing happening. That was just a few days ago.
You also had just a few weeks ago this case
out of I forget where it is. But let me
tell you about the roommates, right, a married couple that
had an extra room and they rented it to somebody,
and they catch this guy on a nanny cam. He's
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on some sort of you know, recording with a hazmat suit,
spray and all sorts of crazy stuff. This one you
can't miss and you've probably seen this already, but just
in case, here's a refresher.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
This morning shocking footage inside a California home. A couple
says this is their roommate in a gas mask covering
their food, kitchen and pantry with insect poison. This has
been a nightmare, total nightmare. Billy Hopper and her husband
David say they've had repeated problems with their roommate, forty
two year old Timothy Bradbury. They installed security cameras inside
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their Santa Clarita house after they say their clothes were
cut up, their property destroyed, and their food was thrown away.
But recently they started having serious health issues. I've been
so sick this past year that i haven't been able hardly.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Do anything because of this guy.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
My husband's been sick.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
We were both in the er within the last two weeks.
They say. Their doctors suggested they might have been poisoned.
They checked out the footage from the cameras and this
is what they saw, covering everything from their groceries to
the coffee pot they used daily.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Again, just to reiterate what he's saying, this dude is
spraying the kitchen as if he was repainting their kitchen
cabinets and refinishing all of their food. They had dishes
in a dish drainer to the sink. He's spraying those two.
I mean, he spray and everything with what looks like
like roach poisoner, one of those things to kill flies.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
It's infuriating it.
Speaker 13 (19:10):
It's really heartbreaking too to see somebody who's has mental
health problems doing something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
They called the authorities and the Santa Clarita Sheriff's office
is when they made contact with Bradbury. He barricaded himself
inside and it took two hours before he eventually surrendered.
Investigators say family members told them Bradbury has a mental disability.
He was arrested for attempted poisoning, but he's already been released.
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Who's the hoppers learned while speaking with us.
Speaker 11 (19:39):
I just wonder if they're going to make him stay away.
I just wonder if we're going to have to be
back being scared to death again or not.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
That's that's what I worry about.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Yeah, that's my fear.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
We had no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
We thought we didn't know. We thought they really at
least keep him for a little bit.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
We tried to contact Bradbury's attorney, but we did not
hear back. The DA will now consider charges, and that
includes a potential FELONYC count of attempted poisoning.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
You know, attempted poisoning. What did you think this guy's
goal was to give him a stomach ache for them
to become a little bit ill or was he trying
to kill these people? And I guess that's what they're
going to have to try and prove. But if I
were those people, I'd feel exactly like they do. I'd think, man,
this guy tried to kill me. This guy was trying
to you know that stuff kills bugs and whatnot, and
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he was putting it in Candidad right in large quantity,
all over their stuff. So forgive me for being skeptical
that I don't want to see this guy. California is
a wild, wild place now, just to put a cap
on this, this reminds me of a case that occurred,
like I said, about six seven, eight years ago and
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went to trial I think in twenty twenty one, but
eerily similar and just wild stuff that happens. Listen to
this one more report and you'll start to think, Man,
there really is a theme in these things. Check this out.
Speaker 14 (21:00):
Wild former student at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania is under
arrest tonight, accused of slowly poisoning his roommate by lacing
his milk and his mouthwash with a dangerous chemical. The
two had been roommates for years, the victims saying he
thought they were friends, but the poisoning isn't the only
charge the suspect is now facing.
Speaker 9 (21:19):
Here's ABC's Alex Pereess, a.
Speaker 13 (21:21):
Lehigh University student, is behind bars tonight after police say
he had been trying to kill his roommate for several months.
Prosecutor say twenty two year old Yukai Yang from China
faces as several charges, including attempted homicide and aggravated assault.
Authority say the chemistry major carried out the attempted murder
plot inside his storm, slowly and discreetly putting a poisonous
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metal known as thallium and possibly other chemicals in his
roommate Juwan Royal's milk and mouthwash.
Speaker 15 (21:51):
Mister Royle experienced extreme pain in his lower extremities, as
well as severe burning and numbness.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
Royal, who had been roommates with Yang for several years
and thought they were friends. First reported his symptoms to
police back in March, dizziness, shaking, and vomiting. That's when
his blood tested positive for thallium. Back in April, Yang
was arrested and released on bail for damaging Royal's television
bed and desk and writing enward, get out of here
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in black marker Tom. According to police, Yang told them
he bought the poisonous chemical but plan to use it
on himself if he didn't do well on exam's. Royal
is said to be recovering but still suffering from side effects.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That is wild. Okay, So I wasn't trying to kill
those guys. I was trying to kill myself. Bravo, Sierra bs.
I don't buy it, not even a little bit. Again,
this guy ended up getting in all sorts of trouble.
This is an old clip from several years ago. This
went to trial back in twenty twenty one. But I
just wanted you to hear the case. Similar Again, roommates
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don't like each other. Next thing you know, they're trying
to poison you. That is crazy stuff and nobody, nobody
should sleep on that you've got to be real careful
about the people that you're around. And sadly, in all
of these cases, every last one of them, it was
the person that they lived with. That's a shame. Anyway,
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I want to leave you with some positive thoughts before
we get into our Flashback Friday interview with Pastor Anthony
Fleming from Transformed Church in Rutherford and Lyndhurst, New Jersey.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
And it is a.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Message on Holy Week from El Trompito, Donaldus Magnus to
forty fifth and forty seventh President of these United States,
El pressI, then the Donald J. Trump, and here we go.
Check this out.
Speaker 15 (23:43):
This Holy Week, I'm proud to join with Christians across
the country and around the world to celebrate the most
glorious miracle and all of time, the resurrection of our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. In his life, Christ displayed
true humility. In his death, he modeled true love, and
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in his resurrection from the tomb, he proved that even
death itself will not silence those who place their trust
in Almighty God, as it says in Gospel of John,
For God so loved the world that he gave his
only son for whoever believes in Him should not perish,
but have eternal life. Eternal life, such beautiful words. This
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Eastern millions of Christians all over the globe will be
reminded that because of what Jesus did on the Cross,
all of us can live every day with hope in
God's promise, knowing that in the end evil and wickedness
will not prevail. In this spirit of joy and renewal,
this Easter, we also celebrate the extraordinary resurrection of faith
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and religion in America. As I have often said, to
be a great nation, you must have religion and you
must have God. Churches across the nation on Sunday the
pews will be fuller, younger, and more faithful than they
have at any time in many, many years. Religion is
growing again in our country for the first time in decades.
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Happy Easter to all. May God bless you. May God
bless the United States of America. Our country is doing
so well like never before.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Thank you that there is a Holy Week message from
El Trumpito DONALDUS Magnus, the forty fifth and forty seventh
President of these United States. Straight ahead our conversation with
Pastor Anthony Fleming from transformed church and some closing thoughts
from me, don't go anywhere. I'm rich child asked, this.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Is America, this is a merry.
Speaker 11 (26:20):
Nearly two thousand years ago, during the Sacred Week, the
living Son of God entered Jerusalem and triumph. Soon after,
the savior of mankind, who brought truth and light into
the world, was betrayed, arrested and tried, beaten and nailed
to a cross, and crucified. For our sake, he gave
up his life, and as the very great Reverend Billy
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Graham once said, God proved his love on the cross.
When Christ hung and bled and died, it was God
saying to the world I love you. Those are beautiful
words from a great man.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Frank right, what's up, America. It's Rich Valdez. So check
this out. I want to bring you a very special
Good Friday guest. Now, this guy is not just a pastor.
He's somebody has his own personal story, and we're going
to get into his story of how he came from
Australia to the United States and the next segment and
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how he got to discover the missing piece and explode
the ministry that God gave him. But right now, I
want to get his reaction to some of the things
that you just heard President Trump saying about Easter, about
the resurrection, as well as the mocking of Christianity and
Donald Trump on Saturday Night Live. Welcome, sir, Pastor Anthony Fleming.
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It's an honor.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Yeah, thanks so much, sir.
Speaker 10 (27:46):
Yeah, it's a special time of year obviously for Christians,
and the media is kind of known for loving to
mock Christians. They don't seem to mark many other religions,
but they'll definitely mark the Fith. I think it's obviously
a beautiful thing that we have a fairly bold, well
not a fairly bold, a bold president, someone who's not
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afraid to say what he believes. It's interesting that so
many other people have said what they believe, but they
kind of make it very general, I think, and he
just goes after it, and to be honest, I think
that's refreshing.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I agree. And I think it also kind of tackles
the problem that a lot of people think that there
should be a to borrow a term from a long
time ago, a war between a separation between church and state,
and this I think is is alive from the enemy.
If I can right now saying politics and religion or
things you shouldn't talk about. I think those are the
two main things you should talk about.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, Well it is a fallacy because here's what
people often do. They say I'm not religious, and then
therefore they say I have no beliefs. The essence of
religion is belief, and so politics is the outworking of
our beliefs. And so you can't not have beliefs in
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politics because you're saying right, you're saying wrong, you're saying good,
you're saying bad, and that is the essence of what
we believe. Therefore, it is in essence religious. Now should
we be forcing our religion in essence on people. No,
But at the same time you have to say right
and wrong. The Ten Commandments were foundational obviously throughout the
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Western world, and created a civil society, a better society
by saying don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, don't commit adultery,
don't cover it. Those were things that were foundational that
help humanity flourish.
Speaker 9 (29:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Really well, put and where we are today from your view,
and I guess your view is really unique because you
weren't born in the United States, so you have this
juxtaposition of living in Australia. But I can tell you
I've seen things go downhill since.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
When I was a kid, everybody, I thought everybody was
a Christian, right, it was okay to go to church,
it was okay to talk about God. As I got older,
I was like, oh my gosh, you guys don't do that.
What's going on here? Right? And it's almost criticized. What's
your view? How have you observed that?
Speaker 10 (30:16):
Yeah, gosh, it's interesting because I came from Australia at nineteen,
went to Liberty University, which was a very deep dive
pro Republican, obviously pro faith, you know, environment, and that
was different for me. Went back to so I came
back to America and then I went to conferences and
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leadership conferences back in the day and really was discouraged.
Speaker 9 (30:40):
From talking ever about politics.
Speaker 10 (30:41):
But it wasn't until I think the political realm started
stepping on areas that I felt was so foundational to
life and flourishing that I felt compelled that I had
to talk about it.
Speaker 9 (30:56):
And so when.
Speaker 10 (30:58):
When really our governor of New Jersey at that time,
and then numerous different people went so left wing when
it came to abortion, for instance, and promoting nine month abortions,
I felt so compelled during that time that I had
to talk about it because it was blatantly murderous and
a dangerous doctrine. And then the other thing I felt
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like I had to talk about, which was speaking up
for children. And so, you know, as a pastor, someone
who's dealt with sometimes people's problems for over twenty years
on a discipleship level, on a counseling level, on a
marital level, not just what I've dealt with, but also
what many other pastes have dealt with, and even just
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people who are trying to help people navigate what i'd
call soulish wounds of the past. To then somehow dive in.
I don't know how we fell in love with this,
but it was a spiritual thing. We somehow fell in
love to playcate to such a degree. Here's what I'd say.
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It's like we fell in love with compassion but lost
our conviction. So instead of being just compassionate to the individual,
we said, we're gonna overplay that and we're gonna literally
bring in a doctrine of confusion to young children and
so when people started talking about gender neutrality and teaching
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that in education sphere, there was something in me that
I couldn't be silent as a father, as a child
of God, as a pastor, and so I feel like
I had to talk about some of those things. And
actually what I found was I was stepping into sometimes
on some people's toes. But what actually happened was it
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caused Christians to be bolder. It caused them to say, yeah,
that's right, we need to stand up for these things.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
And so there was this.
Speaker 10 (32:57):
It was an interesting time because for me around that
time was also around COVID and different stuff, and it
felt like there was so many voices and all the
voices of social media. But I remember praying one day
and on my way to church, and I felt like
there were so many voices, and I just felt really
convicted that I was to keep building strong men, and
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then I was just speak up for children. And so
that has been one of the things that I've talked about.
And so I think it's important that Christians see the
weightiest matters of the law, the weightiest things in scripture,
which Jesus talked about in Matthew twenty three twenty three,
and he said, if we will wait, what is the weightiest,
we will know how to navigate our faith, our life,
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our voting, our government decisions.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Will know it through the lens of scripture.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Pastor Anthony Fleming, would you say that this conviction that
you got was because you were a pastor or simply
because you are a father and a believer?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
You know, first, it's son of God, right first, it's
I'm forgiven. I'm meant to be a reflection of Jesus,
So that should be primary. And obviously the amount of
time you spend in scripture should obviously help forming you something.
You know, if you just look simply at the Ten
Commandments and you look through them and read them out loud,
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and then you see policies and government officials that seem
to attack them at every moment, you go, well, it
doesn't matter how good you sound, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 9 (34:27):
How flowery your words are.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
You're attacking the foundations of what is Christianity, the faith America.
Speaker 9 (34:36):
And so I just felt like I had to be
bold there.
Speaker 10 (34:38):
And as a father, I did begin to imagine, like
my own son if he was five, six seven, my
own daughter six seven, eight years old and then teachers
introducing dangerous thoughts to them, like there's certain things that
we don't understand as adults, but then to go in
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to reduce those thoughts as a young child just violates
every bit of common sense, every bit of wisdom that
I can think of. And the you know, as again
someone who's pasted people over the years, your sexual wounds,
I put it that way, your childhood.
Speaker 9 (35:18):
Wounds they carry for years and years.
Speaker 10 (35:21):
So I felt like that was a doctrine that was
basically from Satan. There's no other way to say it.
And it was evil, and I think Christians had to
I still think Christians actually have to be bolder and
clearer on some of.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
Those things, while at the same time being loving.
Speaker 10 (35:37):
And gracious to the individual, but standing up for what
it's true.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Love the center, hate the sin.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
Yeah, not easy to do, and that's why you need grace,
That's why you need mercy, and that's why you need
to literally say, Jesus helped me. Because sometimes you will
start to hate someone because they're carrying a certain ideology
that's not the spirit at all. But in your own
walk with God, you've got to bring that to God.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
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Speaker 5 (36:29):
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Speaker 3 (36:55):
And I wanted to do something special. We always for Christmas,
for a good Friday, for those types of things. We
always talk about the importance of these holidays, and there's
you know, we just heard the comments from President Trump
referencing his faith and why we acknowledged a resurrection on Easter.
But I want to talk about that. I want to
talk about the role Christianities playing in America. I want
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to talk about society and culture. And I want to
do it with somebody who's Australian, right, an Australian guy.
He graduated from the same college that my daughter just
graduated from, Liberty University. Shout out to the Flames. And
he's also my pastor, Pastor Anthony Fleming from Church Alive. Welcome, sir.
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Yeah, great to be here, my friend. Great to be here,
really is.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
So let's let's start there. How do we how do
we end up with this this big, big sound the
alarm sound, the alarm. How do we end up with
this big, big church that's slowly growing or quickly growing
in Bergen County, New Jersey with a guy that was
in Australia not that long ago, saying I'm not going
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to be in the ministry, right, how does that happen?
Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, it's a story.
Speaker 10 (38:05):
So when I'm nineteen, I go to Liberty University. A
year before I really had kind of a reawakening in
my faith, to be honest, and had always had this
desire to go play college tennis. And that was the
door that got opened for me at Liberty University. While
I'm there praying one day, felt called to preach, felt
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like God had put purpose in my heart in a
big way.
Speaker 9 (38:30):
End up meeting my wife there.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
She's from New Jersey, and so we get married a
couple of years later and in four and we were
actually in Australia.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
At the time. She had just finished All Song College.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
We just got married, and her father, who was a
Portuguese speaking pastor in Jersey, asked us, Hey, do you
want to start something here, And to be honest, we
kind of said no. But we prayed about for about
that next thirty days and just felt like it was
an open door and hey, let's step into it. And
so we were kind of laboring away. We felt like
God had given us a dream to reach people for Christ,
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to take them on a journey of a discipleship, to
see life transformation in them, and then lead their families
in a stronger, better way. And I think over time
that just became really our passion. It became of a
thing that we felt like God had given us. And
it's been interesting to see the last six years, to
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be honest, because it was slow growth until about six
years ago, until I felt like the Lord give me
something a bit unique, which was around specifically speaking to
men and really helping them get unstuck. And we now
call it the four pillars of life Spiritual, physical, relational, financial,
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and we challenge men specifically there and the ladies.
Speaker 9 (39:49):
Grabbed that, and out of that has come a lot
of growth and a lot of really good things.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
This is quite a story. So you start this church
again at the suggestion of your father in law to say,
let's you know, you guys want to get into ministry.
You're like, I don't know, let me think about it.
I pray about it. Yeah, And at what point do
you get this vision? Was it later? Was it early
on that there's going to be this massive, mega church
growing in Jersey.
Speaker 9 (40:15):
Well, I hate the word mega church, so I will
say that, so I'll join you. I would say.
Speaker 10 (40:19):
It's a growing church to me, megas ten twenty thousand people,
where you're almost there.
Speaker 9 (40:24):
But anyway, good things are happening and it's encouraging.
Speaker 10 (40:29):
I would say this that revelation or insight or vision,
those three words you can use either one.
Speaker 9 (40:35):
It is progressive.
Speaker 10 (40:37):
When I was called by God to preach at nineteen
twenty twenty one, I did feel like in prayer numerous
different times, I felt like I literally saw by faith
large things is the best way to describe it. So
when we really took a long time to grow, I
would say we were five years in one hundred and
fifty people. There was definitely some discouragement around that because
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we felt like something much larger had been placed in
us and it just wasn't happening, you know. But we
kept going to leadership conferences, we kept trying to be
faithful with what we had, We kept building our team,
building the culture, and then over time, I do think
you start to see, man, what is your lane, your
lane of ministry? How what is the flavor of church
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that you're meant to be? And I think it was
when the Lord really gave me Men's transform that the
flavor that I felt like matched probably the best with
my personality, my gifting, my skill set, my even background here.
I made you to be yeah, in college tennis, in
coaching tennis, in athletics, and so forth. I feel like
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I wasn't very pastor as in, like you didn't want
to come and meet me for counseling, if you know
what I mean.
Speaker 9 (41:50):
I found counseling boring.
Speaker 10 (41:51):
I didn't want counseling, but I found stirring people to
be more seemed to be my lane and what I
felt like I.
Speaker 9 (41:59):
Was to do it. I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
So you said it transcends, right, The vision, the idea
kind of changes, and that's when you found this lynchpin,
if you will. It was focusing on men, men being
the foundation of the family and realizing that's how you grow,
you focus on men. It happened about six years ago.
Do you think there was something missing? And I don't
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mean missing in a detrimental way, I mean missing for years.
I tried to lose weight, and it something eventually worked
for me, and I don't even know what it is.
I think maybe it's really just learning how to count carbs.
But outside of that, yeah, they will right. You don't
know you're drinking them, you're eating them. But something eventually
made sense to me and I said, ah, this is it.
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And it sounds like that was that moment for you.
But was that the only part that you were missing
or in getting to men or was there some other
lesson that you needed to learn yet to get you
to that stage?
Speaker 10 (42:59):
The differently was a big aha moment literally in my backyard.
I felt this phrase is the best way to describe it,
pierce my heart.
Speaker 9 (43:08):
Help men win in life. Five words, help men win
in life.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
And it was like that aha moment became a moment
where I felt like I saw the culture we needed
to be honest, was a bit frustrated at our own
small groups at the time.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
I kind of they're okay, they weren't.
Speaker 10 (43:24):
They weren't multiplying, they weren't growing, they weren't producing something
what I would call vibrant or strong. But for ten
years as a past I kept hearing the same four
prayer requests something in the physical realm, the health, something
in your finances, my career, my money's a mess, something
in my relationship, whether it's a broken marriage, whether it's
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just relational drama. And then obviously faith questions, and so
those four areas were almost in every single prayer request
we ever got. So I'm like, wait, we don't so
much have a prayer problem, we might have a application problem,
or we might have a wisdom problem. And then one day,
just reading scripture Proverbst Three fifteen or sixteen, jumped off
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the page, so to speak. It says long life is
in her right hand. It says in her left hand
are riches and honor, and so Probst three or the
entire book is about seeking wisdom, but Probast three talks
about as you seek wisdom, here's the fruit, and the
fruit is long life.
Speaker 9 (44:21):
That's your health, riches, your relationship to career, and.
Speaker 10 (44:24):
Money and honor can only come from to places God
or people. And so what I saw in that was
in the hands of wisdom is the management of these
four buckets that everyone was talking about. And so out
of that and then there's this very unique, very well
not unique, actually very known scripture that most people know,
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to be honest, especially pastors.
Speaker 9 (44:49):
Look two fifty two, Jesus.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
Grew in wisdom, stature, faith with God, favor, with man
and in those four areas is actually the four areas
of life.
Speaker 9 (44:58):
And so we said, men, where are man stuck?
Speaker 10 (45:01):
Where men are sometimes stuck physically, often stuck relationally. Many
times if they're doing well financially, the relational bit or
the spiritual bit doesn't seem to gel. And then you
meet guys who are amazing in their faith, amazing in relationships,
but the other disciplines are really missing often in their world.
And so I felt like we saw that we needed
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not just a culture of grace, we needed a culture
of growth. And so we had to challenge men individually
to get vision in those four areas. And then we
had to hold them accountable and said, man, you said
you wanted to grow here, so we are actually building
a brotherhood that helps you win in life. And then
at the same time these four areas, we're gonna hold
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you accountable. So it's not gonna be bagels once a month.
It's not gonna be some quarterly thing. It needs to
be weekly. It needs to be regular. And you know,
you want to become more. And that's the thing I
actually hear sometimes. I've heard this from Jordan Peterson. He's like,
you know you can be more. And I think when
you talk to men, you realize that they know they
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can be more. They're just not sure why. And I
think there's something in their makeup that actually God has
put in there.
Speaker 9 (46:11):
That they know they can be more.
Speaker 10 (46:13):
And so when you inspire them with the scriptures, with
the grace of God, with the love of God, not
shaming them, but building them up to these four areas,
now they rise, become better husbands, they get their health
under control, they lose weight, they pay off debt, and
then they even start growing in the relationship with God.
And before you know it, good things are happening at home,
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Good things are happening. As a dad, good things are happening,
or they want to get married because they're just kind
of play in the field, so to speak.
Speaker 9 (46:44):
So we just see a lot of really good things
out of that.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
There's so much going on. Yet it's a beautiful day.
You wouldn't think that back in the day Jesus was
on his way to getting hung on across right about now.
Speaker 10 (47:00):
Yeah, no, absolutely, it is a beautiful day outside. Spring
is here. Here's what's interesting about spring that I've been
thinking about a little bit as i've been just praying
and thinking and preparing for the messages. Is spring itself
speaks of resurrection. The seed in the ground that looks
like it's dead, buried, it's dark, and then life comes.
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Winter itself just coming out of a pretty long winter
to be honest, in Jersey, in New York, and you know,
I'm in Jersey and I'm a little bit northern Jersey,
so i feel like we've got longer winter, and I'm like, man,
I'm ready for the sun. But winter it's dark and
it's and it's cold. But then life starts to come.
And so during these times, I think, actually there's parts
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of nature that even speak to us of the resurrection.
And then the other unique thing that I've been thinking
about personally is.
Speaker 9 (47:50):
This the sun rises every day.
Speaker 10 (47:53):
The sun rises every day, and perhaps God in times
past we're saying, man, I'm going to give them such
a sign that one day, yes, my son will die,
but yes my son will rise from the dead, and
I'll remind them of it every single day.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Man, you should be a pastor.
Speaker 9 (48:12):
Well, I'm trying, man, I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Folks are here with Pastor Anthony Fleming, and it's an
impressive message and I think there's people listening right now.
I know there's a lot of people listening right now
that may be inspired by what you've been talking about,
and they don't live close enough to churchill live to
participate in person. What do you recommend to them?
Speaker 9 (48:35):
First? Pray? First, pray if you want to get need
of God.
Speaker 10 (48:41):
He says, if you'll seek me with all your heart,
I will be found by you. Use the Lord's prayer
as a model for worshiping first, thanking first, asking for
your needs, surrendering forgiveness.
Speaker 9 (48:54):
Take yourself through the Lord's prayer.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
That'll draw you close. But then do find a place
where there's life, where there's the gospel is preach, where
people's lives are changing.
Speaker 9 (49:05):
Where you can tell this The best way to describe it.
Speaker 10 (49:09):
If you've ever walked into a restaurant and you smell
the smell the people in the atmosphere, you'll smell it.
Sometimes in the church you'll walk in and you'll go, oh,
there's something going on here that people keep on coming
back for the.
Speaker 9 (49:22):
Great steak, the great chicken, the great whatever whatever they have.
Speaker 10 (49:26):
In a life giving church, there will be life life change,
and there'll be people growing. There'll be people excited, there'll
be joy, and you'll find purpose there to.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
Our listeners that are listening right now, and they're saying, man,
this guy's great, but he's got it all together. Things
are fantastic for this guy. And they're not doing fantastic
right now. They're down in the dumps. They're facing something serious.
There are people that lost their kids yesterday in a
shooting in a school yesterday or Thursday. There was the
mother of Rachel Morin was in the White House sharing
what it was like as her daughter was raped. And
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and there's so much ugly things, so many ugly things
that happen in this life, and there are people dealing
with that. And it's great to be upbeat and to
feel good about the resurrection, but there are people who
just aren't there yet. What's your advice to them?
Speaker 10 (50:15):
Gosh, pain is one of our greatest teachers, unfortunately, So
when you say life is not fair, when you say
life is hard, you're actually agreeing with scripture that things
are broken, that things are not the way they're meant
to be. That since the garden hasn't been fair, and
so pain and evil and tragedy has been introduced to
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the world. But we do serve a savior who didn't
just stay afar. He came close, and not just close,
but he literally identified with our struggle, heartache, pain, and
then even went through the worst of pains being crucified
on a cross. And so we do so of a
God that can identify definitely without pain.
Speaker 9 (50:57):
I do think I think it was C. S. Lewis.
Speaker 10 (50:58):
He said, God whispers to us in our pleasures, but
he shouts to us in our pains. And sometimes it
simply says, Hey, the way you're living right now is
not working.
Speaker 9 (51:09):
I have a better way.
Speaker 10 (51:10):
And so if you're going through tragedy, obviously you know
my heart goes out to you. But God is close.
He is near, and he's actually near the broken hearted.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Amen to that. Pastor. Let everybody know how they could
check out one of your sermons. Are they available online?
What's the website? Tell us how to find you?
Speaker 9 (51:29):
Hey, YouTube always works. Church Alive NJ.
Speaker 10 (51:32):
You'd type in and then churchilive dot tv would be
where you could see that wrote a book recently called Transform.
You can check out transform themovement dot com. Any of
those stuff is going to encourage your faith and hopefully
build your life.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Well, there you have it, I mean, he goes. The
book is called Transform. Make sure you've got a copy
for yourself and every single person that you love and
give it to them as a gift. Make sure you
do that. Make sure you go to Church Alive dot
TV stream the sermon. I go to this church. I
vouch for the church. Pastor Anthony's got some solid teaching. Sir,
You're a gentleman, a scholar, and a patriot. And I
want to thank you for being here.
Speaker 9 (52:05):
God bless you, Thank you man.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
It was honor being here, my pleasure. So I mean goes.
That is Pastor Anthony Fleming again. He's the pastor senior
pastor over at Transformed Church formerly known as Church Alive.
And that was a conversation we had last Good Friday,
and I wanted to bring it to you as a
Flashback Friday because I thought it was an excellent conversation
and because from that time till this time, I actually
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got a chance to experience the first what they call
season of Transform. And the reason they call it transform
is because it's truly about people transforming their lives through
the ministry of Christ and understanding it that way and
not to get overly spiritual, and on my soapbox, I
am going to say those four buckets he mentioned it
was four categories of physically, spiritually, financially, relationally. This is
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you know, they break it down into like a semester, right,
you go for twelve weeks. And I'd say that's one
of the biggest blessings that's come out of me not
having to be somewhere between nine pm and midnight every
single day, is that I can be there on Mondays
when they ask me to be there. And I've been
going to these transform gatherings and let me tell you,
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absolutely fantastic, absolutely fantastic. I really enjoy the camaraderie and
the things that I've learned, and it does make a difference.
And this is not necessarily a Christian thing per se, right,
it is in the sense of it's in a Christian
church and you're studying Christian scriptures. But I'm saying the
larger idea, the idea of improving yourself in at least
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three of these areas, maybe not the spiritual area. These
are all very generic positive things that everybody should do.
So for all those people that are out there saying,
you know, I've always wanted to get back to church,
it's been a while. Maybe I'll go this Eastern Maybe
I'll go for Christmas. Maybe you should just go to
this Monday night group. And again, I know not everybody's
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in the New Jersey area, and I know that there
are a number. I think there's probably nine or a
dozen other churches across the country that have adopted this
Transform program and those who want to get the book
by Anthony Fleming. It's called Transform the Movement. But I
bring all of this up to say, people by and
large need to improve. We need to do better, not
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just for ourselves and not just for our walk with God,
but more so because of society at large. Right, society
at large is probably the biggest indicator. When you look
at the stories we talked about tonight, people poisoning one another,
people bombing one another, these are our problems that excuse me.
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They aren't things that we want to go through, right,
I think these are things that by and large, we
wish we weren't going through, We wish was not happening.
So how do we get a better resolution on things?
How do we get a better handle on things? How
do we have better I'm going to call it intra
human relations, right, how do we get along better with
(55:08):
one another? I think that's how when you try to
embrace your faith and live through the fruit of the spirit.
It's obviously a toll order for many of us, at
least it is for me. Ay, I see a pretty
woman and I'm like, hey, shut it, and I am
driving my car and I'm quick to get angry. Road
rage is a thing. But I realize those aren't the
(55:29):
things that God has designed you or me to do,
or how He's designed us to respond. And there is
a blueprint, all right. The Apostle Paul said, follow me
as I follow Christ. If you don't know how to
do it, just watch him. And there are so many
examples out there, from the Apostle Paul to your local pastor.
(55:49):
In this instance, it was my pastor. So I'm going
to leave that right there and let you chew on
that for a while. I hope you'll get a copy
of his book. It really is fantastic. Could follow them
on social media Transformed Church and Jay and you can
check out their YouTube page as well. At Transformed Church.
Pastor Anthony Fleming, his lovely wife Miriam Fleming. They do
a fantastic job, great leadership team there, and really just
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good people, good people, and a good church. And the
bigger message it's Good Friday, right, the death and the
resurrection of Christ. And this is where I will get
on my soapbox just briefly and say that Christianity is
a rather absolutist faith, right. It's absolutely rooted in Christ
(56:34):
being the Messiah, Christ being the Christ, right, Jesus being
the Son of God, God incarnate, both all man and
all God at the same time. And it is this
idea of the triune God living an earthly life you
ever yet never sinning, that is a conundrum for many,
(56:56):
but the ultimate testament of of comfort for many others. Saying, man,
if this guy did it and he paid the price,
you know, on the cross at Golgotha on Good Friday
two thousand some odd years ago, that gives me a
shot to make it into the pearly white gates. And that,
(57:20):
you know, simplifying it as I am, is truly the
gospel message. It's Christ's crucifixion, Christ's resurrection and our eternity
in service to Him and in communion with Him. And
I think that's a beautiful thing. So anyway, thanks for listening.
I bid you adieu here and I say, you got
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to stand for something, because if you stand for nothing,
you'll fall for absolutely anything. And the only thing necessary
for evil to triumph is for good people like you
to sit there and do nothing. So start doing something,
and Asta labroxima. Until the next time, America, take care,
good night, and God bless you. I'm Rich Valdez and
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