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December 12, 2025 60 mins
On Friday, Rich opens the show discussing a furtive alligator in Florida. Then, a flashback Friday look at a previous show on the FALN and other firebombing violent tactics used by communists. 

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This is America, got Richiev. You're on the air with
A Nation with America with your host, Rich Valdez.

Speaker 6 (00:33):
What's up, America.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
I am Rich Valdes Valdez within us that Rich Valdez
on all of the social media. Happy Friday, Happy to
be here with you. Very very blessed to be here
with each and every one of you. And a few
things we're going to get into tonight. Why well, because
that's what we do around here. And I want to
start off with something because you know, as I keep
your company this evening and try to fight the good

(00:57):
fight for freedom and faith and family value, I say
ndcontodo right. Blessings to all of you from the bustling
streets of the New York City here to the sunny
shores of Florida and California, wherever you are listening to
this program. We've got the liberals that are out there
singing louder than the Cooquies are singing in Puerto Rico.

(01:19):
They really are. They got all sorts of liberal excuses
these days. And I want to dive into a bunch
of headlines on this Friday, because well that's what we do.
So grab your conface, he do, sit back, and let's
unpack this crazy world together, because as the old saying goes,
freedom isn't free, but it's worth every single penny. First off,
I want to go to the national political headlines, and

(01:44):
President Trump's administration is firing on all cylinders, announcing a
massive border security overhaul today, beaving up the wall with
new technology that could spot a coyote from a mile away.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
No fun intended.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
And get this, the Democrats are already crying foul, calling
it inhumane, inhumane. Tell that to the families who've lost
loved once to fentanel that's been flooding in. Meanwhile, over
in Congress, you've got Speaker Mike Johnson pushing a bill
through to defund what he calls woken doctrination in schools.
And goodbye to gender theory, hello to good old American history.

(02:21):
And in a plot twist straight out of a Nobela
from like Telemundo or when hebis young aoc all out crazy,
he might at least favorite congressman from the Bronx and
Queens tweeted out something about climate justice and tying it
into this believe it or not, this stuff that Mike
Johnson's talking about. So honestly, her tweet is about as

(02:43):
coherent as let's say.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Binata in a hurricane. Right. Anyway, all I could say
to that is I ofendeed.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Though, if we can only bottle that energy that she
had for something useful, like maybe getting rid of prostitution
in her district, maybe maybe we'd be onto something.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
I want to get into something a little bit more lighthearted,
as you guys are unwhining for the evening, and it's
a funny human interest story that I think I'll have
you chuckling, like, you know, like a like a little
fat kid getting tickled.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Now, pictured this in Florida.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
You got a guy that tried to smuggle guess what,
a live alligator into a Miami nightclub. Now, you guys know,
I love Miami, I love the weather, I love the
palm trees, but listen, smuggling an alligator into a nightclub
is the first for me, It's the first I've heard.
He was claiming it was his quote emotional support animal.

(03:41):
The bouncers weren't buying it. Neither was the gator who
snapped at the bouncer before. Before it was it and
its owner were escorted out and am he goes, I
could say, only in America?

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Are you hearing stories like that? Right? Anyway, if.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
If you have a story like that with the alligators,
I want you to give me a call. We're going
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(04:21):
Just leave it in the manner that we could directly
play on the radio, so you know, tape to live
kind of thing.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
So don't sit there, go Hi, Am I on? Is
this on? Hello? Hello? Is this on?

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Can I talk to Rich? You're on? Once that thing
goes off, you're on, and we're gonna play it as such.
So if it comes out good, we're going to play
it on the radio. Obviously, we're going to talk about
your your thoughts on whatever topic you weigh in on,
especially if it's one of the hot topics that we're
covering here. But anyway, do you think this guy was

(04:56):
facing any charges for bringing the alligators to a nightclub?

Speaker 6 (04:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Maybe a little litle bit more on that later, but
I want to shift gears into something that's a little
bit more important on the medical and health front, because well,
you know, our well being. It really isn't a joke, right,
We have to take that stuff seriously. And there's a
new study out from the CDC that warns that a
spike in respiratory viruses this winter is on the way,

(05:20):
and it's urging folks to boost their immune systems with
good old vitamin D and zinc. Nothing wrong with that, now,
all I could say is, please none of the experimental
jab nonsense unless your doctor absolutely says so.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
But here's the kicker. Check this out.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Researchers that Johns Hopkins are touting a breakthrough in natural
remedies showing the compounds from tropical plants almost like.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
You know, Puerto.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Ricans using vis right vapor rub or as we call it,
Vapo rub can cure everything from colds to hangovers, and
they're saying that these natural plants could fight inflammation better
than some of the over the countermeds that we use,
especially if you're like me and you like a good mufungo,
you know, the mashed up plantains. Staying healthy means more

(06:10):
time enjoying life, more time eating mufongo, more time with
the palm trees, more time in Miami, more time in
Puerto Rico. You know, you get where I'm going with this.
Not locked into a hospital bed. Nobody wants to be there, so,
like always, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound
of cure. And all of this got me thinking, I

(06:32):
appreciate the work that Secretary Kennedy's doing, and I wonder
is it making the type of impact that it should.
Are we as a society or we as Americans becoming healthier?
Are we doing the right thing now? I don't know
if we are or we aren't, I have to say,

(06:52):
but I think that it's it's critical that we put
emphasis on that.

Speaker 7 (06:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
We've got a lot of young people that are starting
their crappy diets a little younger then you're supposed to
write talking to somebody the other day, young person twenties
I think, and they were telling me about how what
they eat right, And they're like, oh, you lost a
lot of weight.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
How'd you do it?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
And I said, well, you know, I and you know,
at first I stopped eating carbs pretty much, almost entirely,
but you know, I resumed a little bit of carbs.
And bottom line is, if you eliminate carbs and unnecessary
sugars and stop drinking all your calories and drinking sugar
every time you drink or drink, you know, whether it

(07:39):
be a sports drink or a soda or anything like that,
you do the diet version. And again, of course, the
people that advocate for sugar and high fructose corn syrup
are always going to poop poo the diet stuff.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
The only say oh, I hate this, I hate the
taste of diet. After that, I'd rather not drink anything.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Or they'll say something like this, well, you know, the
diet stuffs not that much better for you. I mean,
you know, it doesn't kill you for sugar, it'll kill
you for cancer. I can tell you this. Look, I
haven't gotten cancer, thank god. Knock on wood, knock on metal,
knock on radio equipment here, and I gave it up
a long time ago.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Sugar.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I don't buy the cane sugar stuff. I don't buy
the fructose stuff. I don't buy any of that stuff.
I use the other stuff that they say is no
good for you, like sucralose and other artificial sweeteners. And
again not advocating for them, but I am saying way
better for you. You're not gonna You're not gonna gain weight,
and weight gain is directly tied to killing people.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
Mean, it's the bottom line.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
People are dying from from weight, excess weight obesity. This
is why you have all these these drugs like Mountjarro
and ozempk and all these other things that are managing
blood sugar and helping you to lose weight to reverse

(09:02):
these blood sugar issues type two diabetes, pre diabetes, all
of that stuff, insulin resistance.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
So excuse me.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Bottom line here, we have to lose weight because sugar
feeds cancer, It causes premature death, It cuts off years
of your life, Your life expectancy gets cut in half.
Being overweight, not just obese, It increases your mortality risk. Right,
So it's like some people are like what we call chubby,
you know, or I don't know, just you know.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Like a little extra that's literally disease.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
And I have some right, I went from being morbidly
obese to being chubby to having a few extra pounds,
and maybe I'm in between having a few extra pounds
and chubby at this point. And yeah, you do have
to kind of obsess over your health. You can't just say, listen,
I have fun everything in moderation. Just imagine that. Imagine

(10:04):
you're consuming poison and you say something, look, everything in moderation.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Little poison ain't bad for you. No, it is.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Little poison is very bad for you. There's certain things
you really just shouldn't have. And I think sometimes we
confuse this little moderation idea, which I don't agree with personally.
I don't think that a little bit of anything bad
is good for you. But I do believe that.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
We should.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Take things for what they are and weigh them accordingly.
And you know, some people might say, oh, listen, I
don't need burgers every day.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Now.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
If the next part of that sentence is yeah, once
or twice a year, I might go out with my
friends I have a big burger, all right.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
That might be that person.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
But if it's more like, you know, once a week,
I'll have McDonald's, this is a very bad trend, very
bad trend. Even once a month is a bad trend.
I think we're probably off better with that once every
six months that we were just talking about. And I
know it sounds extreme, but that's how it's got to be.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Listen, I have my bad days and my good days,
and I wasn't planning on going off on this weight stuff,
but I mean, poor diet causes high blood pressure, high cholesterol,
heart attacks, strokes, type two diabetes, cancers, all sorts of cancers,
and put strain on your organs because of like fatty
liver disease and whatnot. Respiratory problems, sleep apnea which I

(11:23):
used to have years ago. Had to have that surgery
where it's called a UPPP where they remove your uvula
and open up your airway in lieu of you having
to sleep with a mask on continually pushing forced air.
I mean, these things can be really really bad for you,
not to mention making you tired all the time. So anyway,

(11:47):
I want to talk about that. I want to talk
about people that are also wildcats, and I did a
show a while back.

Speaker 7 (11:56):
It was.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
It was an interesting show.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
I had a few great times, actually, and and I
wanted to I wanted to bring it up to you
because we talked about communism and how people are creating
new communists. You know, I'm gonna call him communist crusaders,
and that's what I called it. When I did the
show a couple of years ago. It started off with
me talking about the fire that started in front of

(12:21):
the Fox News building. I don't know if you remember,
but a guy, I don't want to say a homeless man.
He was homeless, but he was more like one of
these crazy people that shouldn't use the term crazy right,
emotionally disturbed people that had a bone to pick. And
he wasn't well, it's really the bottom line. He set
the Christmas tree in the plaza at Fox News on fire.
It opened up the conversation to a lot of different

(12:42):
things at the time. And you know, I'm going to
pull up that episode and I'll play it as a
flashback for you since it is Flashback Friday here and
I want I want to share that with you, But
in doing that, I will also fill you in on
the NEWSMAX Christmas party that was coming up this Monday.
All so brand new show coming up this Monday as well.

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We'll catch you up on everything that happened over the
weekend and into Monday, as well as Tuesday and the
rest of the week. And again remember a new phone
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I am Rich Valdez. It's Friday, December twelfth, twenty twenty five.

(13:25):
Straight ahead. A little bit on that throwback I was
telling you about. Don't go anywhere.

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All right on me, hegoes. Welcome back. It's rich Valdes
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Not all of the social media seventeen blocks minutes floors
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(14:20):
test that out together. Let me know how that goes,
and we'll be giving you an email and text line
as well for the show. Lots of cool technology coming out.
I kind of like it and something I want to
get into again. I mentioned I wanted to play a
flashback episode for you, but I was talking about that
fired and I erupted a couple of years ago in
front of the Fox News building and how there's a
lot of crazy people in the world, and just the

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same way there's crazy people right now, and those crazy
people are still doing crazy things. We see them, you know,
shooting people, harming people, doing all sorts of untoward things.
And it reminded me of how this type of bedlam,
this is how the Marxist style onists do what they do.

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They like the chaos, They thrive in the chaos. They're
able to use government control in the chaos and get
people to bow at the altar of collectivism, the altar
of Marxism. And sadly this is what happens then, and
it's what happens now.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Anyway, Here are my thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Topic and a couple of other things related to communism
from a couple of years ago on this Flashback Friday edition.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
Check this out.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Now.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
What I find interesting, or I should say, maybe even
problematic with this is that this isn't the first time
we've seen people attack targets to make political statements.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
In March of nineteen fifty four, there was armed terrorists
representing a Puerto Rican separatist group that shot members of
Congress right, the fa LN and other groups.

Speaker 8 (15:51):
I believe they're called.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
La Fusas Armadas, nose Ke de Liberta, something like that.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
They're crazy.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
In March of nineteen seventy one, a bomb was set
off in the Capitol by friends of guess who that's right,
Barack Obama, And again in nineteen eighty three. So, I mean,
this is not new. This has been a mo of
the left for quite some time, using fire, using deception
to distract you. Right, they set a fire so you
can look over here while we do this. It's to
create that sense of everything's crumbling turned to the government.

(16:22):
It's a very Marxist Leninist tactic, and I talked about
this some years ago in a podcast that we did of.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Why they use fire the way they do.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
But I might do it again because you know that
stuff needs refreshing and revisiting. But I got some really
good stuff for you today, so you do not want
to miss what we have today.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
What I find interesting is that there's a lot of
this that's gone on right Some of the more modern
left wing terrorist groups in the United States developed from
remnants of the Weather Underground, the Weathermen and other extremist
elements from the Students for a Democrat Society known as
SDS back in nineteen seventy three nineteen seventy five. There
was another one, another group, a bunch of bank robbery murders,

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all that stuff you've heard from Joe Connor on this
program talking about how his dad was killed in the
bombing at Francis Tavern in Manhattan. So there's a lot.
There's a lot of this that's going on, and it's
happened over the years. And one of those bombers, Samuel Melville,
actually taught the Puerto Rican separatist group the FALN and
others that were doing bombings how to use bombs, how

(17:23):
to create pipe bombs because he was an engineer and
turned into a crazy radical bomber and ultimately paid some
very very hefty prices for the choices that he made.
And there's a brand new book that we're going to
get into in the next segment called American time Bomb,
and it's written by his son, Joshua Melville, and it's

(17:43):
a real look inside the mind of a serial bomber,
a serial domestic terrorist. And the title again, American time
Bomb attic a Sam Melville and a son's search for
answers and a fascinating story. My purpose is not to
attack him, to interrogate him, to beat him up. I
don't want to hit him over the head. I just
want to have a conversation with them, and we're gonna
do that coming straight ahead. But it just brings so

(18:05):
much of this to light you kind of really get
a sense of this is what they do.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Look, I'm not negating the fact that there are these
far right radicals, you know, the ones that have tried
to blow up aportion clinics, the ones that the Timothy mcveighs,
and those people whack jobs. I think whack jobs exist
on both sides of the Aisle. But for sure it's
part of the Marxist Leninist communist movement. This is part

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and parcel of what they do. I've never been to
a conservative conference like Seapack, big shout to match, slab
MERCEDI slap the whole team over there. I've never been
to a seapack where they set to blow something up.
Violence isn't part of the conservative equation the way it
is part of the left wing equation with the Marxist,
the Leninists, the socialists. This is what they do. They
use these tactics to get their way. That's what makes

(18:54):
those that use this tactic terrorists to begin with. Now, listen,
whether this Christmas tree in New York City at the
Fox News headquarters, if that's terrorism, they should do what
they got to do with them. Whether it was, whether
it wasn't, I don't know. I'm not gonna lose sleep
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Now straight Ahead.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
The interview with Joshua Melville, author of American Time Bomb, Attica,
Sam Melville and a Son search for answers. Don't move
a muscle, keep it locked right there. This is one
interview that I highly recommend. You know, I don't do
a lot of guests, but I really want you to
listen to this. I'm Rich Valdez.

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This is America.

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Speaker 4 (20:45):
All right, America, welcome back Rich Valdez. Valdez with an S.
And as promised, it's kind of like that TV show
that we watched, Inside the Mind. In this case, it's
inside the mind of a homegrown terrorist?

Speaker 8 (20:57):
How do they get there?

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And we're going to get the birds I view from
his son, who's had the courage to write a book
about it and tell this story. I'm really happy that
he's here because I think so much of the time,
especially us, in political talk, we talk about things in
a very abstract manner, but we don't really know what
really happened. What is the family thinking, Who are the
people that are involved in these radical movements? How does
it happen? So I think we're going to get to

(21:19):
the bottom of that. But I want to read you
an excerpt.

Speaker 8 (21:21):
From the book.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
To me, it was very moving and it starts with this, says,
the day we met, Sharon was living in a more
sedate life in Brooklyn, heights in a townhouse with a
new husband and a new last name. The remains of
the fierce radical were reduced to an earthy sun dress
and a turquoise pendant. She kept her hair long, however,
to train the frizz. She wore it like a nest
atop her head working in the law because that kept
them together, connected to their cause. When asked what she

(21:45):
did by strangers, she would just simply say, I'm a mom,
and she must have been good at it too. Her
hug took the wind out of me. My god, it's
like being in a time machine. You look so much
like him, and by him. We're talking about Sam Melville,
a dad who became a radical in progressive politics and
the anti war movement in the sixties, ended up becoming

(22:06):
a bomber. I think this is a remarkable story because
we see so much of this kind of repeating today,
people becoming increasingly violent, increasingly hostile in the effort for
quote unquote social justice. It's interesting to see this dichotomy.
So I want to bring in Joshua Melville. He's the
son of Sam Melville, the convicted bomber who wrote the

(22:26):
book American time Bomb Attica Sam Melville and a Son's
Search for answers. Joshua, Welcome to This is America.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Thank you Rich, thanks for having me.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
It's my pleasure. I really and I met every word
of that.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
I really, I have a lot of respect for you
coming forward, irrespective of differences politically that we may have
or I may have with your dad's movement. I'm really
curious to know what it was like in the home,
what it was like, you know, from your perspective, because
you know a quick story. My dad, I found out
after we buried him, was muscle for a little illegal
gambling front in the back up about egguy in Brooklyn, right.

(23:01):
I didn't lose any respect for him. It was just
something that I was like, Wow.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
I didn't know that, you know, when he was a
younger man.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
So I think sometimes as kids we always look at
our dad as a hero and whatnot, and that begins
to change as we get older and we learn how
things really are. Sometimes tell us a little bit about
what it was like being his son. Tell us who
was Sam Melville to you?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Well, as I call him in the introduction of the book,
he was kind of my giant.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
He was.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
He was the one man amusement park, and I was
the only one in line for the ride.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
I was his only child, and he was everything to me.
And then, you know, one day he wasn't there anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I was seeing him only on weekends, and then those
weekends became more intermittent, and then one day he kind
of just disappeared, and I started talking to him through letters.
He told me that he was going to go work
on an Indian reservation to help Native Americans, and then
we started corresponding through letters, and then one day the
letters stopped. And then about a year and a half later,

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when I was eleven years old, my mother sat me
down and explained to me why my father had disappeared.
That he had gone underground, that he'd been part of
a radical movement to bomb buildings to protest the US
involvement in Vietnam, and that he was killed in a
large prison uprising which since then has become known as

(24:23):
the Attica Uprising of nineteen seventy one. And the way
my mother portrayed my father's involvement in all this was
very passive. You know, he was betrayed, He was led
astray and betrayed by crazy hippies. Was the explanation she
gave me for why he did these things. But as
I discovered through my research years later, which is revealed

(24:46):
in the book, he was actually very proactive in this.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
He wasn't led astray.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
He was, if anything, doing the leading, and the group
that he was involved in ended up becoming inspirational for
dozens of other RATS groups, some of which the FBI
continued to hunt well after his death into the nineteen
seventies and eighties.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
So how did he get from point A from to B,
you know, from being a regular guy that all of
a sudden becomes this radical that starts bombing things.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
Well, it started with his relationship with his father.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
My grandfather was an organizer in the Communist Labor Party
of America, and he ended up becoming.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
An officer in that organization.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
And in the nineteen fifties, my father was exposed to
many intense radical minds, liberal radical minds of the time,
including celebrities like Paul Robeson, And he didn't become radicalized
at that point, but he did, you know, start to
adopt his father's point of view of communist politics and

(25:51):
how communism should be, you know, at least a third
party to our two party system in America.

Speaker 7 (25:58):
But then he and his.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Father had a falling out because, and this is kind
of ironic, his father remarried, had another baby, and in
that marriage he decided to become middle class.

Speaker 7 (26:09):
His wife at that point wanted, you know, a big.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
House, long island with the pool, and to send the
kids to private school. And so my grandfather quit the
Communist Labor Party and bought a restaurant to become a
business person. And this enraged my father. He felt that
his father had sold out and become a hypocrite. And
I guess he was determined to never follow in his
father's footsteps and became one of those I'll never be

(26:33):
like a person like my old man kind of situation.
And he, you know, at that point in time, he
had done the exact opposite. He had betrayed most of
his personal politics. At the behest of my mother. He
had gotten a job as an engineer and a successful
consulting and design firm in New York, and he worked
on the plumbing engineering for Brooklyn, Borough Hall, Lincoln Center,

(26:57):
a number of other famous buildings.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
He was successful at what he did.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
He was living in a large apartment on the upper
west side of the dorm building, pretty much emulating everything
he hated about his father. And so at that point
in time he decided to quit all that and he
left my mother, He left me, he went underground. He
eventually quit his job because they asked him to design

(27:21):
apartheid bathrooms in a mall in South Africa, and he
didn't feel that dirty water can distinguish between the color
of a person's skin, and he didn't feel he had
the talents to design racist toilets. So he quit and
he went underground, and he started a radical cell and
they ended up bombing around fourteen buildings to protest the

(27:42):
US imperialism.

Speaker 7 (27:43):
And involvement in the Vietnam War.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
So let's walk us through that a little bit, because
I mean, obviously there was an anti war protesting and
the communist influence for sure, But some of them were
they all federal buildings or what was the makeup of
the buildings? Where were these buildings?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
They were all in New York City, somewhere in the
Chicago area. They were not all federal buildings, but the
two that he ended up confessing to were federal buildings,
which was the Army White Hall induction Center in the
Whitehall Street in downtown New York, which is not there anymore.
And the Federal Building which is part of the Courthouse

(28:20):
District in New York, which is the offices of most
federal judges in the United States.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Wow. Well, Joshua Melville, the book is American time Bomb.
We're gonna get to a little bit more of that.
Don't move a muscle, keep it locked right there. I'm
Rich Valdez. This is America, This.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
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Speaker 8 (28:51):
All right, America, welcome back.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
So we're jumping right back into this interview with Joshua Melville,
son of Samuel Melville. I mean, we were just talking
about who became radicalized, an engineer who became a homegrown
terrorist in the name of communism, doing anti word protesting,
bombing federal buildings in New York.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
And my question to you, Joshua.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Is did you guys, obviously you saw some of this happening,
but did your mom notice it before you did? Where
the neighbors tipped off, did anybody say, man, he's really
gone off the deep end? He's wearing hammers and sickles
or did it seem very natural this progression.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
So my mother and he were separated by this point,
and he was not really in communication with her. She'd
hired a couple of attorneys to see if she can
find him where it was working, but that was proved unsuccessful.
He was good at avoiding attorneys, as he was good
at avoiding the FBI. But she would see in the
papers buildings that were bombed and she just had an

(29:47):
instinct that it was him because of everything she.

Speaker 7 (29:50):
Knew about him.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
And you have to remember this was the time in
America where there was a lot of protests and there
was a lot of Molotov cocktail style bombing. Yeah, but
no one had really bombed the sky Ice graper yet
with a time device, and so he was the.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
First to do that.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
There were other radical groups in other countries who were
doing that, but he was the first to do it
here in that period of time.

Speaker 7 (30:11):
And the big one came when.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Marine Midland Bank was blown up in June I believe
of nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
No one was killed.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And it's important that your listeners understand there's a big
difference between the type of bombings my father did versus
what you might expect from what we would call radical
radical extremists today. My father chose his targets based on
their political significance, excuse me, and he designed the bombs
that they wouldn't harm anybody.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
They always went off at two o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
He was an engineer, so he knew where to place
the bombs and designed them that they would just cause
property damage. And this is very different from extremists today
who choose their targets based on convenience and also based
on the amount of collateral dead that they can inflict
for their cause. So there's a big difference seen my
father's version of what we might call terrorism versus Timothy

(31:04):
McVeigh style terrorism or radical extremist terrorism.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Right.

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yeah, he was trying to make a point and not
hurt people in the process, is what I read.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
That's correct.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
He considered himself a pacifist, as are the historians have
written about him.

Speaker 8 (31:17):
Now, when with these bombings did he ultimate did he
ever drop the ball?

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Did people?

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Did he end up killing people in these bombings?

Speaker 7 (31:24):
No, no one was ever killed in any of his bombings,
got it?

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, So unlike the crazy radicals from my parents island
of Puerto Rico that bombed France's tavern and other groups.
They were leaving a trailer bodies and yes, and aiming
cops and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
If you're familiar with the Puerto Rican national group called Myra,
my father was at the m i R.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
A good Google search on that one.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
My father was one of my father's cohorts, was one
of the people who ended up finding Myra, who was
a big Puerto Rican radical.

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
Wow, it's crazy how this all comes together. So okay,
so tell us. So he's doing these bombings, he's not
hurting people. How does he eventually get caught up, How
does the FBI catch up with him? And what happens?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well, that is a subject of debate and for many
years his ex girl. After they were arrested, his ex
girlfriend wrote quite a bit about him. She went underground
to avoid arrest for around five years, and during that
time she wrote a manifesto and then when she eventually
surrendered and turned herself over to the FBI years later,
she wrote a quote tell all book. Her name is

(32:30):
Jane Alpert, and in her version of events, which has
become kind of the accepted history of the events. According
to her, my father snitched to a known FBI informant,
which is what got everybody arrested.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
And this was the story that had.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Kind of remained standing and unchallenged for probably around thirty
years until my book came along and I subpoened tens
of thousands of FBI documents, which took me over a
decade to assemble, And what I realized after assembling all
the pieces was that.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
Her story was completely untrue.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Not only did my father not confess and give names
to an FBI informant, but in fact, the entire group
was surrounded by FBI informants, that there were other people
in the group who were also being targeted by the FBI,
So it was really no way for anybody to get
away with us for any long period of time. The
FBI had over three hundred agents working on this case

(33:25):
at any given time, and it was just a matter
of time before they got caught.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
And today, of course, we have mountains of technology.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
To assist law enforcement, so many of the things that
they did to get away with this for the amount
of time that they did, which was around six months,
would have been quashed in a matter of days using
today's technology.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Wow, you know, and it's interesting you look at this
and you think, Man, the FBI has been involved with
so many radical groups throughout the years, whether it's the
group I was referring to, the FALN, or even the
stuff that's happening in January sixth. There's a lot of
connections now to saying that the FBI had people inside
of them and whatnot, and that there's always a mold, there's.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Always a rat.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
How do you draw or could you draw.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Some parallels to between what you saw as a kid
growing up and the movement in the sixties with the
communists doing what they did in bombings, and today it
seems like we're going back in that direction.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
We clearly are.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
We're repeating history almost on a month by month schedule,
from the late nineteen sixties a sixty seven, sixty eight,
going forward into the early seventies.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Now, Joshua Melville, there's a lot of talk about the
FBI because it's my opinion that they're they're not some
sort of altruistic group, but I think oftentimes they're pseudo
closeted fascists that want to control the outcome in the
name of what they call justice, and they're willing to

(34:46):
infiltrate any group at any cost to get their way.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, I think that that's a fair description of them.
And I think the tell as they say in poker,
you know, the thing that gives you a way that
you don't intend to get of you away, whether or
not you have a good or bad hand, is exactly
what happened in regard to how they dealt with the
Trump administration and how the left has completely embraced the
FBI's heroes, whereas in the sixties, the FBI was the

(35:13):
worst enemy. And that's because the FBI doesn't really have
a political ideology, in my opinion, And the only way
you can know this is if.

Speaker 7 (35:19):
You study the history of the FBI.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Now, in chapter three of my book, which is called
Hoover's Black Problem, I summarized the history of the FBI
leading up to the events in the story. And you know,
Hoover hated the Ku Klux Klan. Hoover hated the Communists.
Hoover hated anything that, in his view, disrupted the Norman
Rockwell view of what America was supposed to be.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
He didn't care about whether you were black or white,
are your ideology.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
It just so happens that during the sixties it was
the new Left, it was the Yippies, Black Panthers, and
then you know, eventually the weathermen who were doing that,
And so you know, at that point in time, the
left hated the FBI and would never trust the FBI
and everything they say.

Speaker 7 (35:59):
Is a lie.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
And pretty much every radical that I interviewed for this
book felt that way. And then had I been able
to interview them now in twenty twenty one, I would say, well,
is that the same FBI who you think is telling
the truth about Republicans and the Conservatives? Because if the
FBI lies, don't they lie about everybody or they just
only lie about some people some of the time when
they happen to agree or disagree with you.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
I guess based on what you remember, based on what
you know. What do you think a radical bomber like
your dad would think of groups like that today, like Antifa?

Speaker 8 (36:30):
What do you think his take would be?

Speaker 7 (36:32):
Boy? Is that a good question.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So most of the radicals that I interviewed were in
their forties and fifties at the time that I interviewed them,
early forties to mid fifties, and then I reinterviewed them
a second time when I was doing when I got
after i'd sold the book to Chicago Review Press. It's
something important to remember that most of these people in
midlife became what we would call today conservative. Okay, yes,

(36:56):
they still talked about liberal ideology, but they have owned homes,
BMW's businesses. They had taken on the adopted mainstream life.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
Now would my father have done that, I don't know.
He was pretty extreme.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
He was the exception to the rule, and that's probably
one of the reasons why he's a hero of these people,
because every one of them knows that deep down a
lot of them are frauds. When my father was a
genuine article and paid deltimate price for it, What would
my father think of Antifa today or BLM.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
That's hard to say.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
If he stayed true to his beliefs as he did
when he died when he was thirty six, then he
would probably say, burn, baby, burn. He would say, this
is a great way to know, no problem, burn it
all down. Because he believed that the people who were
designed by the universe or God or whatever you believe in,
the people who were designed to tear down the system.

(37:47):
Were not supposed to be concerned with how the system
was going to be rebuilt. That that was supposed to
be somebody else's job, and that was their justification for
committing violence and destruction. It wasn't their responsibility to rebuild it.
And I believe that carries truth right over to today. They
don't seem to care about all the harm they're doing
to the country and to the economy and to this

(38:07):
people in general.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
It's all about what we are the immediate need of
getting a message across right now. I'm not here to
judge that, but that seems to be what's happening. But
if he grew up, you know, after.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Prison, if you become a teacher, went back to architecture,
and eventually became absorbed into mainstream life, then he'd be
like many other radicals that I interviewed for this project,
which is he would have put it down, he would
have condemned it.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
He would have still had political leftist viewpoints, but those
would kind of just be.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Almost window dressing for the fact that they had gone
mainstream and adopted an extremely bourgeois form of life. And
one of the reasons I chose to right to book
now is kind of as a cautionary tale because when
now we have millennials, and millennials actually make up a
larger percentage of the US population than baby boomers did
back in the sixties, and their voice is quite powerful,

(38:55):
and a lot of them are quite angry at the government,
and for many reasons, rightfully so.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
But the choice of venue to express that anger, in.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Terms of what someone called peaceful protests and others would
call riots, is an exact analog what we experienced in
the sixties, and where it eventually leads is a little
on the scary side. And the way I see it going,
it is escalating, and we will eventually if something doesn't
get done, we will eventually see more sam Melville's, will
see more bombs going off, We'll see more extreme violence

(39:25):
of US citizens committing acts of violence against other US citizens.
And the division between left and right is just as
wide as it was in the sixties, but it does
seem like some of the causes of kind of reversed
because back then liberals were pro labor. Today it seems
like liberals are anti labor, and back then liberals were
pro Israel. To today it seems like most liberals are

(39:48):
anti Israel, and I could go on and on about
the kind of role reversals that we're seeing in the
extreme of politics.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
The actual liberal really doesn't exist the way they did,
but it seems, at least in my opinion, that they've
really been kind of taken over with I guess, a
more pure, a more boiled down version of actual communism.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
It is strange because they do seem to embrace a
lot of Marxist ideas.

Speaker 7 (40:17):
My father was a big Marxist. His father was a
big Marxist.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
He comes from a, you know, in a serious Marxist
training and a doctrination, so I see a lot of
Marxist I see a lot of familiar Marxist slogans and
tropes being used to package what seems to me to
be a new form of conservativism. I know, those words
don't mean anything anymore because left is right and right

(40:42):
is left, and we're all kind of politically homeless these days.
But a lot of the causes that seemed to be
adopted by liberals were once, you know, causes that were
adopted by conservatives. Yet they've packaged it in Marxist rhetoric.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
So it is it is fascinating give me a couple
of examples. Oh boy, how much time do we have?

Speaker 6 (41:02):
You got about a minute a half.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well, one of them, a very obvious one, I think,
would be a gun control So you didn't see a
lot of liberals in the sixties complaining about that we
had poor gun control laws, and that's because at the
time it was fashionable for the black panthers to arm themselves.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Yet now we.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
See a lot of liberals who are concerned about gun control.
Coincidentally at the same time that pot is becoming legal,
and that almost seems like a conservative view to try
to make people more docile, less able to defend themselves,
and more dependent upon the government.

Speaker 8 (41:42):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, I don't know that I share that view, but
I do think it's interesting how the roles have reversed,
because you're right, I think the liberal is actually a
dying breed, if you will, in America, the Alan Dershowitz
type of liberal, whereas it seems to be somewhat replaced
by the Bill de Blasio Bernie Sanders type of more

(42:04):
radical leftist, at least in my opinion from what I've observed. So, okay,
tell us, I guess ultimately I think it took a
lot of courage and a lot of wherewithal to put
the book together. Tell us what is it that you're
hoping people take away from a project like this that
took you, you know, ten years to put together?

Speaker 7 (42:22):
Oh yeah, more than that.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Actually, what will they take away? I hope they get
a broader understanding that everything we're experiencing now we've experienced before,
that history does repeat itself, and if we don't pay
attention to what happened last time.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
We could end up in a worse situation than we
are now.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
And I in the book, I talk about, you know,
how law enforcement goes about doing its job, and how
radicals go about fulfilling their agenda. And I try to
go out of my way to make it a fair
and balanced viewpoint. I say in the introduction that this
book is you know, examines examines people that have moral

(43:01):
prisms and view life through those complex moral prisms, and
that indeed there are no clear good guys and bad
guys in this story, including me, and I hope people
can read this book and come away with a greater
understanding that the best way that that number one, you know,
we are experiencing enormous change a lot of it's dangerous,

(43:21):
but they're really the best way, in my opinion, to
make the world a better place is to just be
a better parent, you know, raise your children and teach
them good values and teach them to be self sufficient.
And I guess maybe that's my ultimate message.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
I think that's one of the best messages I've heard
in a long time. Something I harp on a lot myself.
If we do the right thing from when, you know,
when they're little, hopefully we'll get it right.

Speaker 7 (43:44):
Well.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
That's Joshua Melville, the son of Sam Melville, who was
killed in Attica after he was in prisoned for bombing
federal buildings. The book is American time Bomb by Joshua Melville.
American time Bomb, Attica, Sam Melville and a Son's Search
for Answers. You can get that on Amazon dot com
or wherever you get your books, and make sure you
grab a copy, grab two because Christmas is coming up.

(44:07):
Joshua Melville, thank you so much for joining us on
This is America.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Thank you, Rich.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
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Speaker 8 (45:17):
All right, America, welcome back.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
So yeah, kick butt interview there with Joshua Melville, son
of Sam Melville, the ticking time bomb, American time bomb. Now,
what's interesting about the whole thing is this is nothing new.
Now you've heard him say, this is how the radicalization happened.
How did he become radicalized following the Marxist Leninist Communist

(45:40):
roadmap that's been out there forever. I mean, that's how
as far as I can see, they've been active in
the United States since the early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
Nothing new.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
But again, this came as a surprise to me, of course,
when I first encountered it, I was like, Oh my gosh,
I can't believe this stuff.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Duh, right in our face. That's how they work.

Speaker 6 (45:57):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Back in the sixties, there was an anti Communis by
the name of g Edward Griffin. I did a whole
show on this, probably two years ago, and played clips
of it, I think maybe on one of my live infilins.
But I'm going to play a short clip of it now,
just to give you a little bit of the flavor
for the stuff he's talking about. Because once you know
what the Communists are up to, what the Leninist, what
the Marxist teaches, which today is wrapped in a softer

(46:18):
language socialism, Democrats socialism because they feel like, oh, you know,
it sounds so much easier and more palatable if we
do it that way. But a big part of what
they do is they want to burn stuff down, use
the system to bring down the system.

Speaker 8 (46:30):
These are Bolsheviks, leninists. This is what they do anyway.
Listen to this clip.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Surely as nineteen twenty eight, the Communists declare that the
racial differences among our people constituted the weakest and most
vulnerable point in our social fabric. By constantly probing and
straining at this one spot, they calculated that eventually the
cloth could be torn apart, and that Americans could be divided, weakened,

(46:54):
and perhaps even set against each other in open combat.
We mustn't kit ourselves into thinking that the Communists have
placed their agitators only into the black communities. They're working
both sides of the street. They want hatred, violence, and
bloodshed between the races, and they don't care how they
get it or whom they use, even children if necessary.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
Even children if necessary.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Kind of makes me think of what they're doing right
now with forcing five year olds to get vaccinated in
New York City, knowing that they can't even defend this,
but the fact that he does it with impunity because
he's I'm gonna do what I gotta do. I mean,
I'm out of here in twenty some odd days, build
a Blasio on my way out. I'm taking everybody with me.
Use the system, to take down the system, burn it

(47:37):
all down like the commie that he is. Anyway, I
want to read you a part of a transcript from
that same video where they talk about the communists use
of fire. Now, I know, back in the days, people
say all these guys are communists. People, Oh, you're one
of those red scare crazy types. You think everybody's a
radical communist. If you know their playbook, you can see

(47:57):
things coming. Now I'm not saying that everybody's a radical communists.
I'm saying that some people have implemented radical communist tactics,
perhaps not even knowing that they're implementing these radical communist tactics,
but that's what they do. So when we look at
this Christmas tree burning today outside of Fox News, or
these federal buildings that are blown up by the American

(48:18):
ticking time bomb, the American terrorists, the homegrown terrorists we
just talked about Sam Melville, are there similarities. There's definitely
similarities in burning stuff down because that's what communists do. Now,
check out this transcript. This is from nineteen twenty eight.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
Robert F.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Williams was one of the communist organizers, part of something
called the Revolutionary Action movement, and they produce this publication
called The Crusader. In this issue of The Crusader, communists
call not only for the extensive chaos within cities that
we're actually seeing today some eighty years later, ninety years later,
but for putting a torch to every village and every forest,

(48:53):
every field, and every barn. The plan is for raging
fires from one city to the next. I'm reading from
the text. Well, there's the value of sheer destruction. Secondly,
it would force us to deploy our defenses and rescue
units over the widest possible area. Third the communists point
out that as long as our police and National Guard

(49:14):
remain concentrated, they're invincible. You got to spread them out
over an entire city and into the countryside as well.
Maybe that's why we have forest fires, just like the
Cloward pivot idea. Right, just ambush the system and then
they could be picked off one by one by ambush.
And the third value of massive fire to the communist
is psychological. The average American, they say, is soft and

(49:35):
decadent when he sees billows of black smoke rising from
one horizon to the other, when at night the only
light that they can see is from a flickering red
flame leaping into the sky. He'll become paralyzed with fear
and panic. He'll run away and hide and do nothing
to interfere with gorilla groups as they strike at the
communities and power centers. This is what the Crusader explains.

(49:56):
How to set up sniper units in crowded metropolitan areas,
to manufacture jumbo molotov cocktails using the gallon sized jug,
and how to mix the gasoline with certain ingredients to
make it burn like napon. How to pour gasoline into
utility manholes in the streets to set fire to main
telephone cables. How to put sulfur tips from matches into

(50:17):
air conditioning units to blow up large buildings, how to
ignite gas manes and oil storage tanks. It explains how
to use radio controlled model airplanes and how they can
be used to fly explosive charges over heavily guarded fences,
in gasoline storage areas or ammunition stockpiles. It even calls
for the infiltration into National Guard units revolutionaries posing as

(50:40):
non militants for the purpose of getting free military training
and for gaining access to critical military supplies and heavy weapons,
and then they finally say that any fallout in a
minority revolution must create a state of crisis where in
almost all population, including males, would be forced to remain
in their homes to protect their property and family. The

(51:01):
middle class is very large, but it's not accustomed to
deprivation and terror. Because of this affluence, it has waxed soft.
It has no stomach for massive fire, blood or violence.
The motive force behind its life drive is its endless
pursuit of prestige, conspicuous consumption, and sensual pleasure. A few
years of violence, sporadic and highly destructive uprisings will set

(51:25):
the stage for the grand finale. After the stage is
properly set through the protracted struggle, America could be brought
to its knees in ninety days of highly organized, fierce fighting,
sabotage and massive firestone. That is a quote from The Crusader,
written by Robert F.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Williams.

Speaker 4 (51:42):
So now you tell me you just heard from the
bomber son. He explained that he taught the Puerto Rican
separatists from the other group, not the FAAILN, but the
other guys how to use these bombs. Today we have
drones today, we have all sorts of things. This sounds
like a repeat of the Summer of twenty twenty and
little sporadic moments of people trying to to achieve this.
And again they've been at this. This is a century

(52:03):
long plan. They've been at this for a long time.
I don't agree with what they're doing, but I think
they're right. People don't like fires. That makes sense. People
can be scared into compliance, that makes sense. Bombing these
targets is symbolic and has a psychological effect on Americans.

Speaker 8 (52:17):
We have to know what they're up to. We have
to stand for something. We have to stop them.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
We have to be part of the government that's working
against them, we have to be part of the media
that's working against them, because they're inside the government, they're
inside the media, they're inside the classroom. And the only
way to stop them is to actually be there and
fight with them, not physically unless that's necessary. But a
good teacher cancels out a bad teacher. But if every
last teacher is a communist, Marxist, Leninist, socialist, what's left.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
That's my point.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
We have to stand for something, because if we stand
for nothing, we'll fall for anything. That's Hamilton. And the
only thing necessary for this kind of evil to triumph
is for good people like you to sit there and
do nothing. So it's time for you to stay, end up,
and do something. I start approxima until next time, America.
I am Rich Valdeste, valdest with an S. And this
is America.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
This is America.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
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