January 30, 2026 • 47 mins
Peter’s Dry January hits a speed bump, Star Wars drops Kathleen Kennedy as Disney rethinks Galaxy’s Edge, the boys recap the strange choices at this year’s Golden Globes, and Papa Tregs jumps in with a spoiler-free love letter to Hamnet before spiraling into the movies that traumatized us as kids.
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Liz (00:00):
On today's show.
Papa Tregs (00:01):
No, I just wanted to defend it.
Put it at the top of your lasttime.
Liz (00:07):
I'm gonna stick your freaking head in there.
Papa Tregs (00:09):
No one lied to you.
Liz (00:10):
When I killed your brother.
(00:32):
You're listening to Rico and theMan with Rob Tregler and Peter
Martino.
unknown (00:39):
Rico and the Man.
Rob (00:43):
Welcome back to Rico and the Man.
I'm Rob Tregler.
Always, always, always, always,always, always, always joined
by Mr.
Peter Martino.
Always joined by me.
There's the man of Rico and theMan.
The man that brings it alltogether.
The strike that stirs thedrink.
How are you, sir?
Very good.
How are you?
(01:03):
I'm okay.
Busy, busy, busy.
Rushing around like a chickenwith my head cut off.
You know, you know, the grind.
Rise and grind, as they say,right, bruh?
Peter (01:14):
Right, bruh.
Gotta get that bread, bruh.
Rob (01:17):
It's all about the hustle.
It's all about the grind, bruh.
Peter (01:22):
Yeah, you were a little bit confused about what time
we're starting, right?
You gave me one time and thenyou text me an hour earlier
before that time saying, hey,I'm gonna be like five minutes
late.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
Didn't he say No, you're anhour and five minutes early.
And then you're like, well, Icould do a half hour from now.
Rob (01:43):
So I'm like, okay.
Sorry, bro.
So sorry.
I I got my times mixed up.
The three hour people don'trealize you're on the East
Coast.
I'm on the West Coast.
Right.
It's like 10:30 p.m.
It's only 7:30 here.
So I literally leave work anddo the show.
You've done your whole nightbefore you even get on the air.
Peter (02:00):
Yeah, but we both kind of have it hard because you
probably just get home and youjust want to like relax, eat
something, you know, and youhave to like get right into
this.
So it's it's not easy foreither of us, I can imagine.
I believe it was our lastepisode where you remember when
I said that I was going to dotry January?
Yes.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I'm just kidding.
Peter (02:24):
Oh no, really?
Already.
I had a little bit of a slip upthis today, actually.
Already.
Already.
So it's January 15th.
I mean, you called it becauseyou're like, you know, you have
to try to avoid all these likesocial gatherings where like you
go out and like because that'sthe time that you're gonna want
(02:46):
to drink.
So of course, today work hasthis happy hour inside the
building.
It's also free boo free boozeon the company's dime.
And of course, you know, theygo down there with uh some
co-workers, and they only hadlike beer and wine.
And I I didn't drink a wholebeer, I had a little bit of beer
and like one of those littleplastic, you know, those plastic
(03:09):
cups they usually put like winein at these parties.
That's what I had it, and so itwasn't even like maybe like a
half a bottle of beer in there,but I just did it to be social
and you know, I did, I did, Idid cave, I'll admit it, but
it's just it's hard to do.
Rob (03:28):
It's the pressure of going out, it's the pressure of going
out, and it's hard, it's hard todo that, and people rely on
that social lubricant.
Peter (03:37):
I rely on a lot of lubricant, but it's it's just
you know it's just one of thosethings, and there was another
co-worker of mine who was alsodoing dry January, so we kind of
made a pack that like if shedid it, I'll do it, and vice
versa.
And she did, but we didn't weboth didn't feel good about it
afterwards.
Rob (03:57):
There is no dry January now, it's cancelled.
Peter (04:00):
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to make it to the end of the
month.
I made it really this was thesee you next week, Pete.
This was the half half markstumble, but I'm going to get
back on my feet and finish arace without stumbling again.
I guarantee you.
Rob (04:16):
You guarantee?
All right, folks.
Let's put it on the dry Januaryclock.
Let's see if by the end of thisepisode he can't have a drink.
Peter (04:30):
Anyway, breaking news.
I don't know if you have thebreaking news music.
There we go.
Thank you.
You're always prepared.
This is why I love you.
Rob (04:41):
What is the breaking news?
Peter (04:43):
Star Wars Shake Up.
Kathleen Kennedy steps down.
Whoa.
What?
You didn't hear it?
Rob (04:51):
No, I did not hear this.
Kathleen Kennedy is out atLucasfilm.
Peter (04:55):
This is breaking news to you.
Yes.
After 14 years guiding StarWars, uh, this is per Hollywood
reporter, by the way.
Uh, after 14 years guiding uhStar Wars into the modern era,
through all its ups and downs,Kathleen Kennedy is stepping
down as a president ofLucasfilm.
Wow.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And they say that in her week,executive VP and Chief Creative
(05:19):
Officer Dave Fallone has beenpromoted to oversee the creative
direction of the company aspresident and chief creative
officer.
So there you go.
She is out.
It's it took a lot longer thanI thought it was, honestly, but
it sounds like she is finallygoing to be leaving.
Rob (05:40):
We've heard the rumblings for a while that she was gonna
leave, but she finally did.
And what that article getswrong is that they said there
were ups and downs.
It's actually just downs,really, if you look at it.
Peter (05:51):
I mean uh there's been some successes.
Well, there's been TheMandalorian, there's been Rogue
One and Andor, I considersuccesses.
Yeah, few and far between.
But you're right, but you'reright.
More downs than ups.
Rob (06:06):
There was more downs than ups, and the Star Wars brand,
what made it so special, Ithink, was the rarity of it.
You know, I feel like it wasthis trilogy that was safe and
locked away for many, many,many, many years.
And then Lucas opened the vaultand made the prequel trilogy,
which is funny because when itcame out, it was widely panned,
(06:29):
everyone was let down, andsomehow it grew this following
that now it is just as belovedas the original trilogy by
people.
Yeah.
But I don't think that thesequel trilogy is ever going to
be beloved by anyone.
Peter (06:45):
Yeah, they're definitely due for a fresh perspective.
Rob (06:49):
Well, Felone ain't fresh.
Peter (06:51):
Well, you know what I mean.
Just another another leaderthere.
And who knows, maybe this couldbe for the better.
But it sounds like she's notretiring completely.
It sounds like she's gonnacontinue, you know, in some
fashion in the entertainmentindustry.
We just don't know what.
Oh no, those those execs, theynever die.
(07:12):
They never die.
They're they're like fuckinggovernment officials, yeah.
You know, they never go away.
They never go ahead.
Rob (07:19):
The thing is though, Kathleen Kennedy had an
insurmountable task to take overLucasfilm, the brand, and Star
Wars and Indiana Jones.
I mean, I don't think in thisera anyone was going to succeed
at that.
Liz (07:34):
Right.
Rob (07:35):
You know, people forget, you know, everyone was like,
boo, Kathleen Kennedy, boo, butpeople forget her resume.
I mean, part of pretty muchevery blockbuster movie ever
made, you know, like, you know,a hand in some of the best
filmmaking of all time.
So, you know, when she wasannounced, I was like, that's a
perfect choice.
It makes so much sense.
(07:55):
Whatever happened happened withStar Wars.
And you and I were on board forthe beginning of the sequel
trilogy for sure.
We were, we were there, we weresigned up.
Liz (08:05):
Yeah.
Rob (08:05):
And the fans got the best of the movie making.
I feel that after The LastJedi, they just listened too
hard to feedback and made amovie that was trying to please
the wrong people with Rise ofSkywalker.
That's my take.
Peter (08:20):
Lucas did, I guess, trust her enough to because he's the
one that handed her thisposition.
So I wonder, interested to seewhat he thinks about the whole
thing and if he gave uhblessings for Falone.
Rob (08:32):
I mean, I know he loves Falone.
I know that him and Faloneworked together a lot on clone
wars and things like that.
Peter (08:40):
I heard he also likes baloney.
Is that true?
He likes Faloney and Cowboyhats.
Polone and Faloney.
That's big news in the StarWars world.
Some other news this week thatjust came out is that Disney is
actually doing away with itstime restriction on Galaxy's
(09:00):
Edge, because originally theywere that whole storyline of
Galaxy's Edge was supposed totake place between episode eight
and nine, and only thecharacters in the land would be
represented from that era.
But now they're opening it upand they're introducing Han
Solo, Darth Vader, Luke.
All the characters that we grewup and loved, and they're just
(09:23):
kind of doing away with thetimeline, but they say they're
gonna still try to integratethese characters in their own
respective storylines within theland.
Rob (09:31):
I did read that, and I, you know, go to the tape.
I mean, you just have to go tothe tape of this show.
I can't tell you how many timesI said they should have done
that to start with leaning sofar into the sequels for an
entire theme park.
I always thought was the wrongmove because they started it
before they knew that thesemovies were gonna be any good.
(09:53):
Right.
Peter (09:54):
So they were locked into like fucking Kylo Wren and
fucking Yeah, I mean, uh youknow, the whole Star Wars now
between the novels and like allthese spin-off series, like
there's a whole scope and rangethat they could go in.
So it's very hard to limit aland into just one, you know,
time frame in that whole saga ofstories that that they can
(10:18):
deliver.
So, I mean, it'll be better forthem in the long run, too,
because if they do have anotherGrogu or you know, another hit
or anything, naturally they'regonna introduce it into that
land.
So I think the majority ofDisney fans are excited for
this.
They were waiting for this aswell, so it sounds like it's
gonna be a good thing, and itstarts happening the end of
(10:40):
April, so it's coming up soon.
I'm excited.
Rob (10:42):
Makes me want to go back.
Let's do it! We'll do anotherlive from Galaxy's Edge episode.
Peter (10:48):
Live from Galaxy's Edge with special guest stars on
solo.
Chubaki and Lando Cal Rizian.
Hello, what have we here?
Rob (11:02):
You get going, you old pirate.
He'll be saying, hello, whathave we here?
He'll be saying, Willn't youget going, you old pirate?
He'll also be saying, Wookieesstand out in the crowd.
Thank you.
Peter (11:14):
I hope though that they do more than just like have
walk-around characters of these.
Like, I hope they like do moreexperiences and like shows that
kind of incorporate like theolder characters.
Rob (11:27):
We really don't know where we're gonna go from here.
I know Sean Sean Levy is makingthat Starfighter with Ryan
Gosling, but I really don't knowwhat's gonna be the future of
Star Wars film and television atthis point, besides that one
movie.
And I know The Mandalorian iscoming out with a movie very
soon, but everything I've seentrailer-wise looks like the TV
(11:50):
show, and it doesn't really lookall that interesting, to be
perfectly honest.
Peter (11:55):
Yeah, we're gonna have to wait and see.
I think it's too early to tell.
Well, they are doing anotherAhsoka season, right?
Rob (12:02):
Yes, they are doing that.
Peter (12:04):
I liked the first season of that.
I did too.
But that's the thing, it's beenso long since I seen it.
I don't remember what the fuckhappened last time.
You know, previously on.
Yeah, 10 years ago on Ahsoka.
Rob (12:16):
The whole Ahsoka, Clone Wars, all that stuff, I'm not
that familiar with, so it's notlike I can really buy into that
as much as I can with otherthings.
Same thing with TheMandalorian, but John Favreau I
love, and I've always been a bigfan of his, so I can't imagine
he'd make a bad movie, but weshall see.
Peter (12:36):
We shall see.
We will be there, and we willgive you our full review on Rico
and the Man in 2029 when allthis stuff comes out.
Rob (12:46):
If we're alive.
Peter (12:47):
Yes.
Did you happen to catch theglobes this past year?
Rob (12:51):
I did see the golden globes.
I did.
I once again I thought NikkiGlazer did a great job.
Peter (12:56):
Yes.
I thought she did even betterthis time around than last time.
Though she was more toight inher in her jokes and everything.
Rob (13:05):
I loved her joke about Sean Penn looking like a leather
bag.
Yep.
You know what I liked aboutthis year at the Globes that
they started doing, which Ithought was a good move?
The Globes are weird, right?
Because it's not like anauditorium where it's a theater
where you know the first tworows are nominations.
It's all seating, it's likebanquet tables all over the
(13:27):
place.
So unfortunately, when someonewins, they might be like in the
back of the room and it takesthem 45 minutes to get to the
stage.
And what I liked that they didwas this time around, when
someone won, they just play likethis early 2000s pop song when
they went, when they won, asopposed to playing the score of
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whatever project they won for.
Because, like, you know, whensomeone wins for adolescence,
like it's gonna take them 20minutes to get to the stage, and
you don't want the music to belike you know, and it's just
this weird tone.
So, like this time it was justlike Bruno Mars or Lady Gaga or
Usher when someone would win,and I kind of dug that, it just
(14:10):
kept the vibe up.
Peter (14:12):
It's like Stellan Skarsgard is walking up to Pink
Pony Club playing.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, no, a lot of people wereuh critical of that actually,
but I actually didn't mind that.
That I did that was who iscritical?
I want names, you know, thepeople on uh X or Twitter or
whatever the fuck it's called,because they have so many
opinions on there.
(14:32):
Yeah, but speaking of StellanStar uh Skarsgard, I actually
did really like his speech.
He said something really niceabout going back to the theater.
It was a good speech, verycomforting to hear his voice.
Rob (14:44):
Yeah, there were some good speeches.
There were some good speechesat this globes.
I felt that no one got toopolitical.
I felt that nobody droned on.
I felt that they were honest.
I actually really loved SethRogan's speech when he won.
He shouted out to the wholecrew and you know, talked about
the caterers and the grips andthe like, you know, like that's
(15:06):
what you want to hear becausethose are the the unsung heroes
of every production.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Absolutely.
Rob (15:12):
It's not just the faces, it's the people behind the
scenes.
We're we're people behind thescenes, Pete.
Yeah, we know.
Peter (15:18):
We know we know how that goes.
Yeah.
We're stuck behind the curtain,grinding those gears.
You know, for no real surprisesas far as winners go.
You know, Jean Smart, I loveher.
I think she's a great actress,but my god, I mean, she wins
everything that she's up for.
Rob (15:34):
Yeah, it's kind of laughable at this point.
It's like whenever you see hername mentioned, you're like, oh,
she's gonna get it.
And she does.
Peter (15:40):
Right.
Like I would have loved somepeople from White Lotus to win.
The winners were not toosurprising, but I have to see
that Leonardo DiCaprio movie,though, it's on HBO now.
Rob (15:52):
So one battle after another is really good, and it's
probably the only Paul ThomasAnderson film that I really
like.
I had no idea that he was withMaya Rudolph.
Seems like such an odd pairing.
Paul Thomas Anderson is withMaya Rudolph, won like 13 times,
and not once thanked her.
Peter (16:09):
Yeah, isn't that weird?
I noticed that too.
Rob (16:11):
Amelia and I were both like, wow, why isn't he thanking
her?
But maybe, I don't know, maybethey had a pact that he
wouldn't.
I have no idea.
Peter (16:17):
Yeah, I I said this to you before, but I am so kind of
bummed out that we didn't winbest podcast at the Golden
Globes, do I was bummed about ittoo.
Rob (16:26):
I was because here's the thing podcasters finally get a
category in some awards show.
There should have been morepodcasts nominated that aren't a
celebrity podcast.
I know.
I mean, the only one thatwasn't a celebrity was the
Caller Daddy podcast.
Everything else was smartless,Amy Polar, but next year I think
we have a shot.
Peter (16:46):
I hope so.
Rob (16:47):
It's very political.
Peter (16:48):
It's very political, and like Bill Maher said, the reason
I think that we lost is becausethey don't like what we have to
say.
Rob (16:55):
Is that what it is?
Peter (16:56):
Because we speak freely, you know, we talk about the
occasional booby or two.
Whoa.
I think that's I love yourreaction.
You're so agas, you're soaghast.
Like that's it's all we talkabout is boobies.
Liz (17:16):
Pete's burning them up.
Next year we'll be there.
Rob (17:21):
Next year we'll be there for sure.
But I was lucky, very lucky,and I'm glad this happened.
So, right before the globes,like a couple days before the
globes, I got a text messagefrom my dad.
Yeah.
And he says, I just went andsaw Hamnet alone.
And I have to tell you, it'sone of the most beautiful movies
(17:42):
I've ever seen.
And I cried for hours afterseeing it.
And I was like, What?
Holy shit.
He's like, You have to see it.
And so I went to Amelia and Isaid, We should probably go see
Hamnet.
My dad usually, him and I areusually aligned and have the
same taste.
And I really all of a suddenhad a curiosity about it.
I knew nothing about it.
(18:03):
You know, it was not on myradar whatsoever.
Right.
And Chloe Zhao, who thedirector, I wasn't a big fan of
Nomad Land.
I definitely wasn't a big fanof Eternals.
So I was like, let's see whatthis is about.
I knew Spielberg and Sam Mendezproduced it, and I knew that it
was about Shakespeare.
That was it.
Liz (18:20):
Right.
Rob (18:20):
And I gotta tell you, Amelia and I went and saw Matt
Nee, and sure as shit, man,during the entire end credits,
we were both fucking bawling.
Really?
Just bawling.
It is such a good film.
It is so emotional, it'sgut-wrenching, but it is so
powerful, and it should havewon.
And Jesse Buckley should havewon.
(18:41):
She is fan fucking tastic inthis movie.
One of the best performancesI've seen in anything.
And I was just like, so all ofa sudden, for the Golden Globes,
that's all I was rooting for.
And they won.
Peter (18:54):
So do you think uh this whole win best picture?
Rob (18:58):
My plan this year is to try and see every nomination for
best picture, but I'm tellingyou, that one's gonna be hard to
beat on my list for sure.
Peter (19:07):
All right.
Well, that's that's high praisecoming from you.
I will check it out for sure.
Rob (19:12):
Put it at the top of your list.
I'll put it at the top of mylist.
Peter, you gotta see Hamnet.
I don't know why they don'tcall it Hamlet, but you gotta
see Hamnet.
Peter (19:24):
I don't know why, but it's very confusing.
But it's a beautiful picturewith beautiful people in it and
a beautiful story.
Rob (19:31):
I should really get my dad on to talk about it because he
saw it twice.
He saw it twice?
Yeah, he went right back liketwo days later.
Wow.
God bless your dad, man.
In this day and age, forsomeone to go to the theater
twice to see the same movie,it's hard enough to get into the
theater.
Peter (19:49):
Well, the nominations are coming out soon for the Oscars,
so we're gonna have to seewhat's yes, we're gonna have to
do a live Rigo and the Man thatmorning.
We're gonna be reporting liveas they're announcing the
winners, but we're gonna have towhisper.
Because we're in the audiencewith a bunch of people.
Rob (20:03):
We're going to be like golf commentators.
And now he's got the envelope.
And he's opening the envelopeand he's pulling out a card.
Do I see an H on there forHamnet?
It could be an H for Hamnet.
Oh, yeah.
Peter (20:17):
We got Hamnet.
It's Hamnet.
Rob (20:20):
Look at that.
That's got to be the bestannouncer gig in the business, a
golf commentator.
You don't have to have theprojection voice.
Peter (20:27):
You don't have to be like in the three-yard line.
And you don't have to like keeplike the football announcers,
especially.
They're like fucking talking,like ad nauseum.
They have to fill every voidwith like them talking,
mentioning something, a stat ortalking about a player or
whatever.
Rob (20:45):
And it's always dumb.
It's always like, you know,Johnson's up there on the field.
He's wearing shoes.
Right.
And look at him.
He's standing up right now on afield.
Peter (20:53):
Pretty sure he has a cup in there somewhere.
He's gotta protect his marbles.
Then we have Anderson coming upwho's wearing red to represent
the Buccaneers.
Red is the Buccaneers' color,so it makes sense.
He's wearing red.
Buccaneers were pirates back inthe 1700s.
Rob (21:10):
That exactly.
That's what it's like.
But actually, I was justtelling you that I would really
love to hear my dad's thoughtson the movie, and look who's
here.
It's Papa Trix.
There he is, ladies andgentlemen.
Liz (21:24):
What's up, Papa Tricks?
Whoa.
Whoa.
Papa Tregs (21:28):
What are we talking about?
Rob (21:30):
We were just talking about the Golden Globes, and I was
telling Pete how happy I was tosee not only Hamnet, but Jesse
Buckley win.
Absolutely.
And I was telling him that youwere the one who got me to go to
the theater to see it.
Papa Tregs (21:43):
Yeah, it's definitely a theater experience.
It's not really a watch-at-homemovie.
People go up and get chips andstuff, and you know what I mean,
and pause it here and there.
And I think it needs to beviewed in one two-hour shot, and
it does not feel like two hoursat all.
Peter (21:57):
No, really.
Rob (21:58):
Not at all.
Peter (21:58):
So you're saying that's a theater experience because you
have to really sit and beengaged in it.
It's not so much the you knowcinematography or anything like
that.
Papa Tregs (22:07):
Oh, all that pulls you all in.
And the weird thing was when Isaw it by myself, this guy comes
in 15 minutes into the story,which is I don't get.
Rob (22:16):
I hate that shit.
Papa Tregs (22:17):
I know.
And then he's got an AppleWatch that keeps lighting up.
And it's you know, and I'mlike, dude, I felt like put my
phone in this face.
This is where but you knowwhat?
Ten minutes later, I didn't seethat Apple Watch.
I was too pulled into thestory.
And I have to say this this isthe first movie in a long time
where I can't find any faults.
Wow.
(22:37):
I can't.
Even movies I loved, One BattleAfter Another, I can still find
faults in them.
But this one, I don't know.
It seems to me like a perfectfilm.
What do you think, Rob?
Rob (22:46):
I agree.
I mean, every piece of it isbeautiful.
The cinematography isbeautiful, the performances are
all spot on, the music isbeautiful, like it has these
cuts to black in between scenes,and Chloe Zhao started off as
an editor, and you can totallytell because it's edited
perfectly, too.
Papa Tregs (23:04):
Yes, those cuts to black are so powerful because
they're just the right point oftime in the story, and then it
jumps ahead a couple years eachtime.
Not every time, but sometimesit cuts to black to a different
scene.
But most of the time it's likea three-year difference.
I haven't seen anything likeit.
I mean, I don't know who wonBest Actress the past three
years, and I don't care, butI'll always remember this
(23:26):
performance.
Rob (23:27):
Oh, yeah, she's amazing.
Papa Tregs (23:28):
You know, Rob, you and I talked about why it was
Paul, is it Paul Mescal, likethe tequila, or Paul Mescal?
Rob (23:34):
I've heard it both.
Papa Tregs (23:35):
Okay.
Well, I kind of see why he wasup for supporting actor, because
he's in and out of the film.
He's not there full time.
It's her movie.
It's her movie, for sure.
Peter (23:43):
And a weaker actress could have destroyed that movie.
Yeah, no, she's she's cute.
I like I like her.
No, but you know what I mean.
Just like her personality, sheseems cute and everything.
Papa Tregs (23:57):
She she's raw in this movie.
She's not, there's no makeup,there's intense, tight
close-ups.
I would say to myself, thiswoman is beautiful.
You know what I mean?
Naturally beautiful.
You know, she took my breathaway a couple of times.
Rob (24:11):
But let me ask you this, dad, because you had said this
because I was bawling.
Like, I'm I after the movie,like during the movie, like I'm
an ugly crier.
Amelia, she fucking like shecries and she looks the same
when she wipes away the tears.
I, for the rest of the fuckingday, have red eyes.
I look like I've been crying, Ilook like I was in a fight with
(24:32):
somebody.
I just look terrible after Icried, and the whole theater was
crying.
Papa Tregs (24:38):
Oh, yeah, I I heard audible sobs.
Rob (24:40):
Steph would lose it.
Papa Tregs (24:41):
Even the non-criers were like, oh man, you know,
they were at least verballyreacting, you know what I mean?
The guy next to me, he didn'tcry.
The watch, the Apple Watchdude, but he kept going, oh man,
like like he was punched in thestomach or something, you know
what I mean?
But here's the thing like, hadyou uh had me on a week ago, I'd
I wouldn't be able to talkabout it without tearing up.
(25:01):
I think I it's enough time haspassed now.
I will definitely buy thismovie, not to cry, but just to
re-examine it.
That's why I went back a secondtime and I picked up on stuff
that I'd never seen, didn'tcatch the first time because I
was so involved in just a basicstory.
I I've I saw little touches ofSpielberg in this movie, not
enough to turn it into aSpielberg film, but I I saw
(25:22):
parts where he probably said,You might want to do this or you
might want to do that.
Rob (25:26):
Why couldn't he have had a say on Dial of Destiny or the
last 12 Jurassic World movies,if that's the case?
Papa Tregs (25:33):
That's a good point.
Yeah, I think he was at thelunch.
Rob (25:36):
He's like he was burning some money somewhere.
Papa Tregs (25:39):
Did he even show up for the dailies?
Rob (25:40):
I mean well, I was telling Pete that you know, I don't have
kids.
And this movie still moved me,you know, to my core, but it's
gotta be a rougher watch topeople with kids, right?
Papa Tregs (25:55):
Absolutely.
And when I knew you were going,I'm like, I don't know if Rob
will cry because he hasn't beena parent, you know, but that
shows, you know, that you're howsentimental you are and that
that you do have, you know.
That you do have a heart.
Rob (26:10):
Well, let's slow down, let's not go that far.
That's not what I wanted tosay.
Papa Tregs (26:13):
But man, I came out of there and I swear grown men
next to me washing their facesin the sink, trying to hide the,
you know, and that doesn'twork, by the way.
And then I go to Shake Shackand order a burger and look at
the dude, he goes, Are youalright, man?
I'm like, yeah, I just saw amovie, that's all, bro.
But I didn't want to say I sawHamlet because he looked at like
(26:35):
12, you know, and he's like,Hamlet, I thought it was Hamlet.
That's what my students aresaying.
I thought it was Hamlet.
I'm like, oh, I don't want toget into it right now.
I tried to explain it, but theydidn't even know what the word
interchangeable means, so itdidn't work.
unknown (26:48):
Yeah.
Rob (26:48):
But they get it out of the way right at the top of the
movie.
There's a card that explainsit.
Papa Tregs (26:53):
And you know what?
I'm reading the book, andthat's the first page of the
book.
Well, there you go.
I don't know.
Is there a name today that thatwould apply to?
Hamnet and Hamlet, whatever youcall a person either one.
Peter Martino or doucheball theclown.
I knew that was coming.
That's your best man,doucheball the clown.
Liz (27:13):
Yep.
Peter (27:14):
That's how I'm going to introduce myself to everybody.
Papa Tregs (27:17):
Here's the best man, doucheball the clown.
Peter (27:22):
Papa Tregs, what was your reaction to your son getting
engaged?
I didn't get your take on it.
Whoa! Your P.O.B.
Papa Tregs (27:31):
I had no idea for one.
And I really really good atthat.
Yeah, I was there, but here'sthe thing.
When you played the audio,that's me going, Yeah.
Liz (27:42):
You should have been like, fuck yeah.
Papa Tregs (27:46):
But I had no idea, and and Jack didn't tell me, you
know.
So it was it was a great night,man.
It was a really great night.
I'm so happy I was got to bethere.
Yeah.
The only thing is, like, Ican't stay away from piano and I
got in trouble for banging onthe player piano.
If you guys are piano there, II'm like, I gotta play at least
a half a chord.
I'm not to try to impressanybody.
(28:07):
I'm just I'm I'm addicted tokeys, if that makes any sense.
Beethoven over here.
Rob (28:12):
Draghoven.
Tragoven.
Ludwig von Trekthoven.
Peter (28:24):
Just picture your dad with the wild hair.
Papa Tregs (28:29):
I'm not putting myself in the same category as
that guy.
Come on.
Rob (28:33):
Yeah, no, you didn't get in trouble though, did you?
Well, you told me the guy saidsomething.
No, I think I was the only onewho was like, don't touch that.
Yeah.
And I think later the owner,she was like, it was great.
Papa Tregs (28:43):
Because then stop playing songs.
So I'm like, I'll play one.
I think I played Journey, don'tstop believing.
Don't stop.
Which is actually very easy toplay on the piano.
Peter (28:54):
I could teach it in like 10 minutes.
There's a lot of things I wouldlove to learn how to do, but
unfortunately, I don't see ithappening.
Papa Tregs (29:03):
Hey, it's never too late.
I know.
It's never too late, Pete.
I know.
I know.
Since I'm self-taught, I usedto like play cocktail hours at
weddings, and people, I guess,that played piano would watch me
and they're like, you playreally weird.
I'm like, I'm self-taught.
Go away.
Liz (29:18):
Go away.
Go away.
You're playing a piano in apublic place.
And you're like, go away.
Rob (29:26):
At a cocktail hour, you know?
Yeah, no.
Pete, you say you don't playinstruments, but you are a
songwriter.
Nice.
I am.
I mean, I am.
I actually have a clip here ofa song that Pete wrote himself.
Ah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Boobies, boobies.
I love boobies.
Boobies, boobies.
They bring me much joy.
Boobies, boobies.
I love boobies.
Boobies.
Boobies for every girl and boy.
Boobies that article.
Rob (30:54):
Not bad.
Papa Tregs (30:55):
Steve Grovin.
Yeah.
That's crazy, though.
That's the musical right there.
I can see the guy walkingaround the stage pointing to the
small movies.
The big movie.
Yeah.
Holding a bunch of DVDs.
I'll take them off.
Peter (31:10):
He's wearing he's wearing a mask like the Phantom of the
Opera.
Papa Tregs (31:13):
He's in a blockbuster, and they're like,
you can't take them.
I'll take them off.
Peter (31:19):
See, now we're getting somewhere, guys.
This is what we need to be, youknow, brainstorming.
Rob (31:24):
You know, he's saying boobies.
He's not saying movies.
Oh, he is?
Peter (31:27):
Oh.
You don't you don't movies?
Papa Tregs (31:31):
Yeah.
I like movies better.
I like boobies better.
I I tried to circle back toHamlet.
Oh no, it's like.
Rob (31:41):
Well, we were talking about the Golden Globes, and this was
one of the awards show firstaward shows in a long time where
like I actually watched throughthe whole thing and I didn't
get really bored.
Papa Tregs (31:50):
I didn't like this, but you said the choice of
playing party songs when peoplecame up to see the somber music.
But when Jesse Buckley wentone, it was like, celebrate dead
kids, come on.
Yeah, that's true.
It didn't work for everyone,but no, I didn't mind it.
I thought it was a good choice.
(32:11):
I didn't like those two-knuckleheads.
Jesse Buckley has a size sevenshoe.
Rob (32:16):
Oh, yeah, the commentators that I did not like.
You're right.
I completely forgot about that.
And that one guy, he's beenaround forever.
He used to do like the E-redcarpets and stuff, but like he's
not a guy who should be on amicrophone.
He's like, Noah Lyle just wonfor the pit.
And it sounds like he's got apit of his own at home with the
twin tins.
And it's like, this guy shouldnever be near a microphone, and
(32:38):
he's like the one guy with amicrophone.
Peter (32:40):
Yeah, they just had Kevin Fraser last time doing it.
And then for some reason, theystuck this Mark Malkin Malkin
guy with him to like, I guess,have some kind of kind of a
banter between them, but it wasjust very annoying and awkward.
Rob (32:55):
And Fraser's fine, he's by himself, you know, like he's got
a good voice.
Peter (33:00):
Yeah, I didn't mind him last year when he was by
himself.
Rob (33:02):
But then he's not fumfering around trying to come up with
facts.
And when they cut to him, theguy has a script.
unknown (33:09):
Yeah.
Peter (33:10):
He sounds on Mike like he's making shit up as he goes.
Like the shit they were sayingwas so stupid.
Like Timothy Chalamet thankedKendall Jenner when he won the
SAG Award.
Let's see if he thanks heragain.
Liz (33:23):
Like, who the fuck cares?
Rob (33:27):
I did like um Pete.
You actually texted me duringthe globes.
It was it was a nice littletouch at the end of the Golden
Globes when Nikki was wearingthe spinal tap hat.
Peter (33:36):
Yeah, that was perfect.
Rob (33:38):
Because there's no in memoriam at the globes, and it
would have brought the wholework you know room down to do
anything bigger.
So I thought that was a nicetouch.
Peter (33:47):
Yeah, for sure.
Rob (33:48):
It was a definitely a nice touch.
Papa Tregs (33:50):
I did watch Stand By Me over the break, but man,
that movie holds up.
Peter (33:54):
Yeah.
I actually tried to watch itwith my kids, but I didn't
realize I forgot how bad it was.
So we had a we had to stop.
No, I tried, I actually playedit and then like Oh, don't Rob
got scarred for life.
Papa Tregs (34:09):
I didn't sleep for two weeks.
One of my biggest regrets as aparent was letting them see that
movie because I forgot aboutthe dead body shot.
Peter (34:16):
Yeah, totally that just like all the cursing and stuff.
You become so desensitized withlike these movies that you grew
up with because it's just beenpart of your life, and you you
know, but to see it, you know,from a new pair of eyes, it's
it's pretty bad.
Rob (34:33):
See, for me, yeah, like the cursing and all that stuff
wasn't the problem for me.
Like, because I was a littlekid, and I was usually a loner
as a little kid, so I all I didwas play in the woods.
That's all I ever did, right?
Papa Tregs (34:45):
Oh, that was the woods connection.
Rob (34:47):
And so at the end, when they find a dead body of a kid
in the woods, for some reason,it hit me so hard, and I
literally could not like sleepalone for like two weeks.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Papa Tregs (34:59):
He well, and they they shouldn't have showed the
face.
That the green face was whatdid you know what I mean?
These lanes sideways.
Peter (35:08):
Well, it's a Stephen King, it's based on the Stephen
King, you know, short story.
Rob (35:12):
Yeah, I know you both I don't watch it, but I know you
both watch Welcome to Derry.
Papa Tregs (35:18):
No, I couldn't.
I mean, first episode, the akid gets ripped in half.
I'm like, I'm good.
Right, Pete?
Peter (35:25):
Doesn't that happen like at the end?
Yeah, so you just watch thefirst episode and that's it.
Papa Tregs (35:29):
Yeah, I said, yeah, it's something about killing
kids.
I uh yeah, I know Pete's allabout the killing kids.
Peter (35:34):
Well, I mean, the the way they die, it's very, it's very
supernatural.
It's not like you know what Imean.
Papa Tregs (35:40):
So yeah, I don't know.
Maybe I'll give it a I don'tknow.
Maybe I gotta watch it duringthe daytime.
Rob (35:45):
Too scary.
I gotta come play with youwhile you're sleeping.
Yeah.
I'm I'm gonna give you thefirst ever ever built Sony CD
player that skips every song.
That's how that's how you triedto calm me down was you gave me
a compact disc player, but Ibelieve it was the first one
ever invented because every CDwe put in it would skip.
(36:08):
Yeah, right.
I'm sure I pounded it at somepoint.
Yeah, I'm sure you got mad andpunched it at something.
Papa Tregs (36:18):
That always works with equipment.
Yeah, that never makes itworse.
I felt like the worst father,you have no idea.
Your mom was pissed at me.
Why would you let him watch it?
And I'm like, I forgot aboutthe green body.
Rob (36:29):
I'm sorry.
I mean, it's not the worstthing in the world.
You know, it's like youwouldn't have known.
I mean, like you wouldn't haveknown it would have had that
effect on me, you know?
Papa Tregs (36:36):
It's like Well, you had seen Readers of the Lost Ark
with faces melding.
I thought, this is nothing.
Peter (36:41):
Right.
Yeah, yeah, you never know whatlike a kid's gonna be affected
by, you know what I mean?
Papa Tregs (36:46):
Like something, it's true.
Like I got traumatized at hisage, the same age my dad watched
Lord of the Flies, the oldblack and white one, and there's
a scene that I if you read thebook, there's a scene where the
meeting kids just a goofy kidwith glasses, and it's just
innocent.
He's down below, and they pusha giant rock right on top of
this.
Yeah, it's a fat kid, right?
(37:07):
That they do.
Yeah, yeah, Peggy, Peggy, yeah,yeah, yeah.
And and then all his friendsare like, Peggy, no, yeah.
You know, and like nightmaresfor a week, but my dad wasn't
trying to come and lay with me.
It was me, just me in my room,and my brother tormenting me.
Peggy, no.
I'm like, stop.
Rob (37:23):
Pete, do you have any movies that like stuck with you
as a kid that were liketraumatizing?
Were you all man?
Peter (37:30):
I'm all man.
No, I uh child's play was a bigone for me.
I remember I was scared ofChucky, and I had the my buddy
doll.
I don't know if you guys don'tknow.
Rob (37:39):
Oh, yeah, it was just like Chucky.
Peter (37:41):
Yeah, it looked pretty much just like Chucky.
So as soon as I saw Child'sPlay, that fucking thing went in
the attic and like stay therebecause I didn't have anything
to do with it after that.
Rob (37:52):
It's still there.
Peter (37:53):
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a big one forme.
I don't know why, but now youknow, now I watch it and I'm
like, what what the what thehell is it?
Rob (38:00):
Yeah, when you get older, then you go back, and like I
remember watching Stand By Me aslike a teenager, and I was
like, what the fuck was I scaredabout?
This is nothing, you know, butit's right, I don't know, it's
at the right time, the rightage, it gets you.
Papa Tregs (38:13):
Yeah, 100%.
My mom didn't like all themovie movies like my dad did, so
I was his movie buddy for RRadio movies when I was like 12
and 13.
So he had me in Marathon Man,and you know, this is thing, you
know, and they're knifingpeople in the street.
I didn't bother me at all.
Yeah.
So I think he he kind ofhardened me to that kind of
violence.
Rob (38:32):
Well, what's funny though is you did try to respect the
cursing because I remember youshowed me, I don't know if it
was like Terminator 2 orsomething, and you tried to live
censor it by pausing it everytime they said fuck.
I'm like, just play it.
I know what they're saying.
Papa Tregs (38:50):
I didn't I knew that movie that well.
Yeah, you knew it enough toknow when the fucks are coming.
I couldn't tell you how itplays out now.
All I remember is a guy gettingthe milk cart and sword through
the mouth or whatever.
Rob (39:02):
Yeah, that was fine, but the word fuck, oh boy.
Papa Tregs (39:08):
I think a couple movies I put my hand over Jack's
eyes when he was little person.
Showgirls.
unknown (39:14):
Yeah.
Rob (39:14):
I think you put your hands over my eyes during the sex
scene in Dances with Wolves.
Oh, really?
Peter (39:20):
Yeah.
Is there nudity in that though,or is it just like kind of
speaking of love scenes?
Are you guys watching HeatedRivalry?
What everybody's talking about.
I'm good.
Liz (39:32):
No penises in this mouth, son.
Peter (39:36):
Uh yeah, I uh I haven't seen it, but oh my god,
everyone's talking about it now.
Papa Tregs (39:41):
I'm good.
Just like I didn't see themovie with Zendayah and the the
tennis players.
I I have no problem with that,but it's just like wait, why are
they?
Rob (39:49):
Oh, whoa.
Papa Tregs (39:51):
Whoa Double woe.
That's my favorite.
That's one of the mostdisturbing sound clips.
And you don't have to connectit to that movie.
It's just Harrison Ford, that'ssome of his best acting.
I know.
Peter (40:11):
Yeah, I know, right?
It's a lot of sound clips.
Rob (40:13):
It's a little too.
It's like there's really inStar Wars and Indiana Jones, the
two most uncomfortable thingsin the whole thing come from
Harrison Ford because that scenewhen you know when he's not
even on camera being torturedand in the other room.
And in Temple of Doom, whenhe's on the Rock Crusher and the
(40:34):
Voodoo doll, like it's sofucking like intense.
Peter (40:41):
Like I thought you were gonna say when he drank the
blood of Kali was on the rock,like fucking out.
You know, even that, like we'reso desensitized by it now
because we've seen it like amillion times.
But you know, you show a kidsomething like that, and it's
just like, what is going on?
Like the fucking heart sceneand everything.
Rob (41:01):
Well after Amelia and I watched Raiders, she she said
Last Crusade was always herfavorite, but she'd only ever
seen Raiders in Last Crusade,and so so like I was like, Oh,
we gotta watch Temple of Doom.
And you know, like she fellasleep the first time we watched
Raiders, and she fell asleepwhen we were watching Last
Crusade, just because you knowit got late or whatever, but she
(41:22):
stayed the fuck awake forTemple of Doom because she was
like, like, there were so manytimes where she just turned me
and she was like, Jesus Christ.
And I'm like, Yeah, I didn'tthink about it like that.
It's been a minute, like it'sfucking dark as fuck.
Papa Tregs (41:39):
They're whipping children and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, you you guys know thatthat movie and Gremlin single
single-handedly created the PG13 rating.
Rob (41:49):
Yep.
Yeah, they're like, it's notbad enough to be R, but it's
definitely not like Jaws is PG.
Papa Tregs (41:55):
Oh my god, the Quinn Death scene is such an R-rated
thing, too.
Peter (41:59):
I know there's a lot of movies that got away with the PG
rating back in the day thatshouldn't be PG.
Rob (42:05):
That is one that I fucked up on is Jaws because when Jack
was like a toddler, we werewatching Jaws like in the
beginning, and then I dozed offand I woke up to Quint being
thrashed around and Jack justsitting there with the uh
biggest eyes I've ever seen on akid, just like oh no, I was
like, oh fuck.
Papa Tregs (42:26):
Like I think I came up on him, I go, Why are you
showing him this?
Peter (42:30):
It's like whoops.
One time I felt so bad when myniece was really young, who
framed Roger Rabbit was on TV,and it was a part at the end
where Judge Doom, like, youknow, gets the high-pitched
voice and his eyes like turninto like the daggers and
everything.
She lost it, and I felt so badbecause I killed your brother.
(42:52):
Yeah.
And I talked just she lost it.
Like the fear in her eyes.
I I just still see it to thisday, and I felt absolutely
terrible.
She didn't cry with a littlecartoon shoe.
No, we it was just like you,you know, we I put it on, it was
(43:12):
towards it was at that part inthe movie, so I thought, oh, you
know, she'll she'll watch this.
And then that then he turnedinto you know the evil
character, and she lost it.
And I was like, oh man, I feltso bad.
Rob (43:25):
All the hits tonight.
I know.
Who frame Roger Rabbit,Showgirls by me?
Papa Tregs (43:32):
Jaws.
I was in Jaws, okay.
So uh this woman I work withgoes, my father-in-law was in
Jaws.
I'm like, no way, show me apicture.
And it's the guy in the yellowraincoat from Jaws 2 with the
blonde hair.
Uh I'm like, that's Jaws 2.
And she goes, Oh, well, still.
I'm like, it's all it's stillno, it's not still.
Peter (43:55):
It would have been funny if if her dad was like the guy
that was like, uh what?
Rob (44:00):
Yeah, that would have been amazing.
Yeah, I don't want to made itfirst by Tiger Shark.
Liz (44:09):
I'm gonna stick your friggin' head in there.
Papa Tregs (44:14):
And I'm dating myself here and it's going well,
but I had to wait in line atthe garden theater in the hot
sun for two hours.
Back then you bought yourticket and you got in line on
the street.
That's why the term blockbustercame.
It went all the way down toPalmer Square from the garden
theater.
Rob (44:30):
No QR codes then, son.
Papa Tregs (44:33):
No, are you kidding me?
Liz (44:34):
No reserve seating then?
Papa Tregs (44:36):
No, you sat reused out.
I think I said pretty up close,too.
Reclining?
Liz (44:40):
What the fuck is reclining, motherfucker?
Papa Tregs (44:44):
And also, too, the very first movies that have
stereo were Star Wars and CloseEncounters.
Everything else was mono backthen.
Rob (44:51):
It was all mono back then.
We all had mono back then.
Remember, folks?
Do the kids still get mono?
Is that still a thing?
No, they don't have no ideawhat it is.
Because I was always jealous ofthose kids because they'd be
like out of school for likeweeks.
I know.
It's like, oh, so-and-so's gotmono.
I'm like that.
And they were making girl.
Papa Tregs (45:12):
I know.
And I used to say the otherkids got his brother's got
stereo.
Rob (45:17):
And you were the smartest kid in the room, but everyone
made you feel like an idiot, Ibet.
Yeah, I know.
Yep, yep.
That was my that was my schoolexperience.
Peter (45:24):
And now that's my work experience because I say things
sometimes, and it's just likeright over their head.
I know.
It's like Tragler, get overhere.
You made us laugh.
Rob (45:34):
Tragler, get over here.
Papa Tregs (45:37):
Stop making us laugh.
The good old day.
Rob (45:40):
Tragler's making a clever joke.
I was constantly bullied.
Peter (45:44):
Yeah, there were so many assholes in my town.
Papa Tregs (45:47):
Oh, dude, I used to walk to Reynolds and Tragler
pummeled with snowballs, youknow, and like I remember laying
in the snow and like, stop,please.
Rob (46:03):
Jersey, man.
Jersey's rough.
Yeah.
Papa Tregs (46:05):
Yeah, it's a rough time, place to grow up.
Yeah, for sure.
I wonder what the bullies werelike out here.
Hey yo, man.
You're nobody likes you.
No one, no one likes you, man.
Rob (46:16):
Meet me on the playground at three o'clock.
You're gonna take the 10 to the405.
Yeah, get off at Lankersham.
Papa Tregs (46:24):
I always I find myself always quoting Bubba,
though.
Like, sometime when I have arough day at school, I'm like,
I'll go off to another teacherand go, I won't go home.
Rob (46:36):
And on that note, yeah.
Papa Tregs (46:39):
Pete, try to get your wife, get a babysitter, go
see Hamnet while you still can.
Yeah.
Don't watch it with the lightson and chips, and you know.
Pause it, I gotta go to thebathroom.
Peter (46:48):
Pause it, I gotta go jerk off.
unknown (46:54):
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Papa Tregs (00:01):
No, I just wanted to defend it.
Put it at the top of your lasttime.
Liz (00:07):
I'm gonna stick your freaking head in there.
Papa Tregs (00:09):
No one lied to you.
Liz (00:10):
When I killed your brother.
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You're listening to Rico and theMan with Rob Tregler and Peter
Martino.
unknown (00:39):
Rico and the Man.
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Welcome back to Rico and the Man.
I'm Rob Tregler.
Always, always, always, always,always, always, always joined
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Peter Martino.
Always joined by me.
There's the man of Rico and theMan.
The man that brings it alltogether.
The strike that stirs thedrink.
How are you, sir?
Very good.
How are you?
(01:03):
I'm okay.
Busy, busy, busy.
Rushing around like a chickenwith my head cut off.
You know, you know, the grind.
Rise and grind, as they say,right, bruh?
Peter (01:14):
Right, bruh.
Gotta get that bread, bruh.
Rob (01:17):
It's all about the hustle.
It's all about the grind, bruh.
Peter (01:22):
Yeah, you were a little bit confused about what time
we're starting, right?
You gave me one time and thenyou text me an hour earlier
before that time saying, hey,I'm gonna be like five minutes
late.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
Didn't he say No, you're anhour and five minutes early.
And then you're like, well, Icould do a half hour from now.
Rob (01:43):
So I'm like, okay.
Sorry, bro.
So sorry.
I I got my times mixed up.
The three hour people don'trealize you're on the East
Coast.
I'm on the West Coast.
Right.
It's like 10:30 p.m.
It's only 7:30 here.
So I literally leave work anddo the show.
You've done your whole nightbefore you even get on the air.
Peter (02:00):
Yeah, but we both kind of have it hard because you
probably just get home and youjust want to like relax, eat
something, you know, and youhave to like get right into
this.
So it's it's not easy foreither of us, I can imagine.
I believe it was our lastepisode where you remember when
I said that I was going to dotry January?
Yes.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
I'm just kidding.
Peter (02:24):
Oh no, really?
Already.
I had a little bit of a slip upthis today, actually.
Already.
Already.
So it's January 15th.
I mean, you called it becauseyou're like, you know, you have
to try to avoid all these likesocial gatherings where like you
go out and like because that'sthe time that you're gonna want
(02:46):
to drink.
So of course, today work hasthis happy hour inside the
building.
It's also free boo free boozeon the company's dime.
And of course, you know, theygo down there with uh some
co-workers, and they only hadlike beer and wine.
And I I didn't drink a wholebeer, I had a little bit of beer
and like one of those littleplastic, you know, those plastic
(03:09):
cups they usually put like winein at these parties.
That's what I had it, and so itwasn't even like maybe like a
half a bottle of beer in there,but I just did it to be social
and you know, I did, I did, Idid cave, I'll admit it, but
it's just it's hard to do.
Rob (03:28):
It's the pressure of going out, it's the pressure of going
out, and it's hard, it's hard todo that, and people rely on
that social lubricant.
Peter (03:37):
I rely on a lot of lubricant, but it's it's just
you know it's just one of thosethings, and there was another
co-worker of mine who was alsodoing dry January, so we kind of
made a pack that like if shedid it, I'll do it, and vice
versa.
And she did, but we didn't weboth didn't feel good about it
afterwards.
Rob (03:57):
There is no dry January now, it's cancelled.
Peter (04:00):
No, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to make it to the end of the
month.
I made it really this was thesee you next week, Pete.
This was the half half markstumble, but I'm going to get
back on my feet and finish arace without stumbling again.
I guarantee you.
Rob (04:16):
You guarantee?
All right, folks.
Let's put it on the dry Januaryclock.
Let's see if by the end of thisepisode he can't have a drink.
Peter (04:30):
Anyway, breaking news.
I don't know if you have thebreaking news music.
There we go.
Thank you.
You're always prepared.
This is why I love you.
Rob (04:41):
What is the breaking news?
Peter (04:43):
Star Wars Shake Up.
Kathleen Kennedy steps down.
Whoa.
What?
You didn't hear it?
Rob (04:51):
No, I did not hear this.
Kathleen Kennedy is out atLucasfilm.
Peter (04:55):
This is breaking news to you.
Yes.
After 14 years guiding StarWars, uh, this is per Hollywood
reporter, by the way.
Uh, after 14 years guiding uhStar Wars into the modern era,
through all its ups and downs,Kathleen Kennedy is stepping
down as a president ofLucasfilm.
Wow.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And they say that in her week,executive VP and Chief Creative
(05:19):
Officer Dave Fallone has beenpromoted to oversee the creative
direction of the company aspresident and chief creative
officer.
So there you go.
She is out.
It's it took a lot longer thanI thought it was, honestly, but
it sounds like she is finallygoing to be leaving.
Rob (05:40):
We've heard the rumblings for a while that she was gonna
leave, but she finally did.
And what that article getswrong is that they said there
were ups and downs.
It's actually just downs,really, if you look at it.
Peter (05:51):
I mean uh there's been some successes.
Well, there's been TheMandalorian, there's been Rogue
One and Andor, I considersuccesses.
Yeah, few and far between.
But you're right, but you'reright.
More downs than ups.
Rob (06:06):
There was more downs than ups, and the Star Wars brand,
what made it so special, Ithink, was the rarity of it.
You know, I feel like it wasthis trilogy that was safe and
locked away for many, many,many, many years.
And then Lucas opened the vaultand made the prequel trilogy,
which is funny because when itcame out, it was widely panned,
(06:29):
everyone was let down, andsomehow it grew this following
that now it is just as belovedas the original trilogy by
people.
Yeah.
But I don't think that thesequel trilogy is ever going to
be beloved by anyone.
Peter (06:45):
Yeah, they're definitely due for a fresh perspective.
Rob (06:49):
Well, Felone ain't fresh.
Peter (06:51):
Well, you know what I mean.
Just another another leaderthere.
And who knows, maybe this couldbe for the better.
But it sounds like she's notretiring completely.
It sounds like she's gonnacontinue, you know, in some
fashion in the entertainmentindustry.
We just don't know what.
Oh no, those those execs, theynever die.
(07:12):
They never die.
They're they're like fuckinggovernment officials, yeah.
You know, they never go away.
They never go ahead.
Rob (07:19):
The thing is though, Kathleen Kennedy had an
insurmountable task to take overLucasfilm, the brand, and Star
Wars and Indiana Jones.
I mean, I don't think in thisera anyone was going to succeed
at that.
Liz (07:34):
Right.
Rob (07:35):
You know, people forget, you know, everyone was like,
boo, Kathleen Kennedy, boo, butpeople forget her resume.
I mean, part of pretty muchevery blockbuster movie ever
made, you know, like, you know,a hand in some of the best
filmmaking of all time.
So, you know, when she wasannounced, I was like, that's a
perfect choice.
It makes so much sense.
(07:55):
Whatever happened happened withStar Wars.
And you and I were on board forthe beginning of the sequel
trilogy for sure.
We were, we were there, we weresigned up.
Liz (08:05):
Yeah.
Rob (08:05):
And the fans got the best of the movie making.
I feel that after The LastJedi, they just listened too
hard to feedback and made amovie that was trying to please
the wrong people with Rise ofSkywalker.
That's my take.
Peter (08:20):
Lucas did, I guess, trust her enough to because he's the
one that handed her thisposition.
So I wonder, interested to seewhat he thinks about the whole
thing and if he gave uhblessings for Falone.
Rob (08:32):
I mean, I know he loves Falone.
I know that him and Faloneworked together a lot on clone
wars and things like that.
Peter (08:40):
I heard he also likes baloney.
Is that true?
He likes Faloney and Cowboyhats.
Polone and Faloney.
That's big news in the StarWars world.
Some other news this week thatjust came out is that Disney is
actually doing away with itstime restriction on Galaxy's
(09:00):
Edge, because originally theywere that whole storyline of
Galaxy's Edge was supposed totake place between episode eight
and nine, and only thecharacters in the land would be
represented from that era.
But now they're opening it upand they're introducing Han
Solo, Darth Vader, Luke.
All the characters that we grewup and loved, and they're just
(09:23):
kind of doing away with thetimeline, but they say they're
gonna still try to integratethese characters in their own
respective storylines within theland.
Rob (09:31):
I did read that, and I, you know, go to the tape.
I mean, you just have to go tothe tape of this show.
I can't tell you how many timesI said they should have done
that to start with leaning sofar into the sequels for an
entire theme park.
I always thought was the wrongmove because they started it
before they knew that thesemovies were gonna be any good.
(09:53):
Right.
Peter (09:54):
So they were locked into like fucking Kylo Wren and
fucking Yeah, I mean, uh youknow, the whole Star Wars now
between the novels and like allthese spin-off series, like
there's a whole scope and rangethat they could go in.
So it's very hard to limit aland into just one, you know,
time frame in that whole saga ofstories that that they can
(10:18):
deliver.
So, I mean, it'll be better forthem in the long run, too,
because if they do have anotherGrogu or you know, another hit
or anything, naturally they'regonna introduce it into that
land.
So I think the majority ofDisney fans are excited for
this.
They were waiting for this aswell, so it sounds like it's
gonna be a good thing, and itstarts happening the end of
(10:40):
April, so it's coming up soon.
I'm excited.
Rob (10:42):
Makes me want to go back.
Let's do it! We'll do anotherlive from Galaxy's Edge episode.
Peter (10:48):
Live from Galaxy's Edge with special guest stars on
solo.
Chubaki and Lando Cal Rizian.
Hello, what have we here?
Rob (11:02):
You get going, you old pirate.
He'll be saying, hello, whathave we here?
He'll be saying, Willn't youget going, you old pirate?
He'll also be saying, Wookieesstand out in the crowd.
Thank you.
Peter (11:14):
I hope though that they do more than just like have
walk-around characters of these.
Like, I hope they like do moreexperiences and like shows that
kind of incorporate like theolder characters.
Rob (11:27):
We really don't know where we're gonna go from here.
I know Sean Sean Levy is makingthat Starfighter with Ryan
Gosling, but I really don't knowwhat's gonna be the future of
Star Wars film and television atthis point, besides that one
movie.
And I know The Mandalorian iscoming out with a movie very
soon, but everything I've seentrailer-wise looks like the TV
(11:50):
show, and it doesn't really lookall that interesting, to be
perfectly honest.
Peter (11:55):
Yeah, we're gonna have to wait and see.
I think it's too early to tell.
Well, they are doing anotherAhsoka season, right?
Rob (12:02):
Yes, they are doing that.
Peter (12:04):
I liked the first season of that.
I did too.
But that's the thing, it's beenso long since I seen it.
I don't remember what the fuckhappened last time.
You know, previously on.
Yeah, 10 years ago on Ahsoka.
Rob (12:16):
The whole Ahsoka, Clone Wars, all that stuff, I'm not
that familiar with, so it's notlike I can really buy into that
as much as I can with otherthings.
Same thing with TheMandalorian, but John Favreau I
love, and I've always been a bigfan of his, so I can't imagine
he'd make a bad movie, but weshall see.
Peter (12:36):
We shall see.
We will be there, and we willgive you our full review on Rico
and the Man in 2029 when allthis stuff comes out.
Rob (12:46):
If we're alive.
Peter (12:47):
Yes.
Did you happen to catch theglobes this past year?
Rob (12:51):
I did see the golden globes.
I did.
I once again I thought NikkiGlazer did a great job.
Peter (12:56):
Yes.
I thought she did even betterthis time around than last time.
Though she was more toight inher in her jokes and everything.
Rob (13:05):
I loved her joke about Sean Penn looking like a leather
bag.
Yep.
You know what I liked aboutthis year at the Globes that
they started doing, which Ithought was a good move?
The Globes are weird, right?
Because it's not like anauditorium where it's a theater
where you know the first tworows are nominations.
It's all seating, it's likebanquet tables all over the
(13:27):
place.
So unfortunately, when someonewins, they might be like in the
back of the room and it takesthem 45 minutes to get to the
stage.
And what I liked that they didwas this time around, when
someone won, they just play likethis early 2000s pop song when
they went, when they won, asopposed to playing the score of
(13:49):
whatever project they won for.
Because, like, you know, whensomeone wins for adolescence,
like it's gonna take them 20minutes to get to the stage, and
you don't want the music to belike you know, and it's just
this weird tone.
So, like this time it was justlike Bruno Mars or Lady Gaga or
Usher when someone would win,and I kind of dug that, it just
(14:10):
kept the vibe up.
Peter (14:12):
It's like Stellan Skarsgard is walking up to Pink
Pony Club playing.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, no, a lot of people wereuh critical of that actually,
but I actually didn't mind that.
That I did that was who iscritical?
I want names, you know, thepeople on uh X or Twitter or
whatever the fuck it's called,because they have so many
opinions on there.
(14:32):
Yeah, but speaking of StellanStar uh Skarsgard, I actually
did really like his speech.
He said something really niceabout going back to the theater.
It was a good speech, verycomforting to hear his voice.
Rob (14:44):
Yeah, there were some good speeches.
There were some good speechesat this globes.
I felt that no one got toopolitical.
I felt that nobody droned on.
I felt that they were honest.
I actually really loved SethRogan's speech when he won.
He shouted out to the wholecrew and you know, talked about
the caterers and the grips andthe like, you know, like that's
(15:06):
what you want to hear becausethose are the the unsung heroes
of every production.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Absolutely.
Rob (15:12):
It's not just the faces, it's the people behind the
scenes.
We're we're people behind thescenes, Pete.
Yeah, we know.
Peter (15:18):
We know we know how that goes.
Yeah.
We're stuck behind the curtain,grinding those gears.
You know, for no real surprisesas far as winners go.
You know, Jean Smart, I loveher.
I think she's a great actress,but my god, I mean, she wins
everything that she's up for.
Rob (15:34):
Yeah, it's kind of laughable at this point.
It's like whenever you see hername mentioned, you're like, oh,
she's gonna get it.
And she does.
Peter (15:40):
Right.
Like I would have loved somepeople from White Lotus to win.
The winners were not toosurprising, but I have to see
that Leonardo DiCaprio movie,though, it's on HBO now.
Rob (15:52):
So one battle after another is really good, and it's
probably the only Paul ThomasAnderson film that I really
like.
I had no idea that he was withMaya Rudolph.
Seems like such an odd pairing.
Paul Thomas Anderson is withMaya Rudolph, won like 13 times,
and not once thanked her.
Peter (16:09):
Yeah, isn't that weird?
I noticed that too.
Rob (16:11):
Amelia and I were both like, wow, why isn't he thanking
her?
But maybe, I don't know, maybethey had a pact that he
wouldn't.
I have no idea.
Peter (16:17):
Yeah, I I said this to you before, but I am so kind of
bummed out that we didn't winbest podcast at the Golden
Globes, do I was bummed about ittoo.
Rob (16:26):
I was because here's the thing podcasters finally get a
category in some awards show.
There should have been morepodcasts nominated that aren't a
celebrity podcast.
I know.
I mean, the only one thatwasn't a celebrity was the
Caller Daddy podcast.
Everything else was smartless,Amy Polar, but next year I think
we have a shot.
Peter (16:46):
I hope so.
Rob (16:47):
It's very political.
Peter (16:48):
It's very political, and like Bill Maher said, the reason
I think that we lost is becausethey don't like what we have to
say.
Rob (16:55):
Is that what it is?
Peter (16:56):
Because we speak freely, you know, we talk about the
occasional booby or two.
Whoa.
I think that's I love yourreaction.
You're so agas, you're soaghast.
Like that's it's all we talkabout is boobies.
Liz (17:16):
Pete's burning them up.
Next year we'll be there.
Rob (17:21):
Next year we'll be there for sure.
But I was lucky, very lucky,and I'm glad this happened.
So, right before the globes,like a couple days before the
globes, I got a text messagefrom my dad.
Yeah.
And he says, I just went andsaw Hamnet alone.
And I have to tell you, it'sone of the most beautiful movies
(17:42):
I've ever seen.
And I cried for hours afterseeing it.
And I was like, What?
Holy shit.
He's like, You have to see it.
And so I went to Amelia and Isaid, We should probably go see
Hamnet.
My dad usually, him and I areusually aligned and have the
same taste.
And I really all of a suddenhad a curiosity about it.
I knew nothing about it.
(18:03):
You know, it was not on myradar whatsoever.
Right.
And Chloe Zhao, who thedirector, I wasn't a big fan of
Nomad Land.
I definitely wasn't a big fanof Eternals.
So I was like, let's see whatthis is about.
I knew Spielberg and Sam Mendezproduced it, and I knew that it
was about Shakespeare.
That was it.
Liz (18:20):
Right.
Rob (18:20):
And I gotta tell you, Amelia and I went and saw Matt
Nee, and sure as shit, man,during the entire end credits,
we were both fucking bawling.
Really?
Just bawling.
It is such a good film.
It is so emotional, it'sgut-wrenching, but it is so
powerful, and it should havewon.
And Jesse Buckley should havewon.
(18:41):
She is fan fucking tastic inthis movie.
One of the best performancesI've seen in anything.
And I was just like, so all ofa sudden, for the Golden Globes,
that's all I was rooting for.
And they won.
Peter (18:54):
So do you think uh this whole win best picture?
Rob (18:58):
My plan this year is to try and see every nomination for
best picture, but I'm tellingyou, that one's gonna be hard to
beat on my list for sure.
Peter (19:07):
All right.
Well, that's that's high praisecoming from you.
I will check it out for sure.
Rob (19:12):
Put it at the top of your list.
I'll put it at the top of mylist.
Peter, you gotta see Hamnet.
I don't know why they don'tcall it Hamlet, but you gotta
see Hamnet.
Peter (19:24):
I don't know why, but it's very confusing.
But it's a beautiful picturewith beautiful people in it and
a beautiful story.
Rob (19:31):
I should really get my dad on to talk about it because he
saw it twice.
He saw it twice?
Yeah, he went right back liketwo days later.
Wow.
God bless your dad, man.
In this day and age, forsomeone to go to the theater
twice to see the same movie,it's hard enough to get into the
theater.
Peter (19:49):
Well, the nominations are coming out soon for the Oscars,
so we're gonna have to seewhat's yes, we're gonna have to
do a live Rigo and the Man thatmorning.
We're gonna be reporting liveas they're announcing the
winners, but we're gonna have towhisper.
Because we're in the audiencewith a bunch of people.
Rob (20:03):
We're going to be like golf commentators.
And now he's got the envelope.
And he's opening the envelopeand he's pulling out a card.
Do I see an H on there forHamnet?
It could be an H for Hamnet.
Oh, yeah.
Peter (20:17):
We got Hamnet.
It's Hamnet.
Rob (20:20):
Look at that.
That's got to be the bestannouncer gig in the business, a
golf commentator.
You don't have to have theprojection voice.
Peter (20:27):
You don't have to be like in the three-yard line.
And you don't have to like keeplike the football announcers,
especially.
They're like fucking talking,like ad nauseum.
They have to fill every voidwith like them talking,
mentioning something, a stat ortalking about a player or
whatever.
Rob (20:45):
And it's always dumb.
It's always like, you know,Johnson's up there on the field.
He's wearing shoes.
Right.
And look at him.
He's standing up right now on afield.
Peter (20:53):
Pretty sure he has a cup in there somewhere.
He's gotta protect his marbles.
Then we have Anderson coming upwho's wearing red to represent
the Buccaneers.
Red is the Buccaneers' color,so it makes sense.
He's wearing red.
Buccaneers were pirates back inthe 1700s.
Rob (21:10):
That exactly.
That's what it's like.
But actually, I was justtelling you that I would really
love to hear my dad's thoughtson the movie, and look who's
here.
It's Papa Trix.
There he is, ladies andgentlemen.
Liz (21:24):
What's up, Papa Tricks?
Whoa.
Whoa.
Papa Tregs (21:28):
What are we talking about?
Rob (21:30):
We were just talking about the Golden Globes, and I was
telling Pete how happy I was tosee not only Hamnet, but Jesse
Buckley win.
Absolutely.
And I was telling him that youwere the one who got me to go to
the theater to see it.
Papa Tregs (21:43):
Yeah, it's definitely a theater experience.
It's not really a watch-at-homemovie.
People go up and get chips andstuff, and you know what I mean,
and pause it here and there.
And I think it needs to beviewed in one two-hour shot, and
it does not feel like two hoursat all.
Peter (21:57):
No, really.
Rob (21:58):
Not at all.
Peter (21:58):
So you're saying that's a theater experience because you
have to really sit and beengaged in it.
It's not so much the you knowcinematography or anything like
that.
Papa Tregs (22:07):
Oh, all that pulls you all in.
And the weird thing was when Isaw it by myself, this guy comes
in 15 minutes into the story,which is I don't get.
Rob (22:16):
I hate that shit.
Papa Tregs (22:17):
I know.
And then he's got an AppleWatch that keeps lighting up.
And it's you know, and I'mlike, dude, I felt like put my
phone in this face.
This is where but you knowwhat?
Ten minutes later, I didn't seethat Apple Watch.
I was too pulled into thestory.
And I have to say this this isthe first movie in a long time
where I can't find any faults.
Wow.
(22:37):
I can't.
Even movies I loved, One BattleAfter Another, I can still find
faults in them.
But this one, I don't know.
It seems to me like a perfectfilm.
What do you think, Rob?
Rob (22:46):
I agree.
I mean, every piece of it isbeautiful.
The cinematography isbeautiful, the performances are
all spot on, the music isbeautiful, like it has these
cuts to black in between scenes,and Chloe Zhao started off as
an editor, and you can totallytell because it's edited
perfectly, too.
Papa Tregs (23:04):
Yes, those cuts to black are so powerful because
they're just the right point oftime in the story, and then it
jumps ahead a couple years eachtime.
Not every time, but sometimesit cuts to black to a different
scene.
But most of the time it's likea three-year difference.
I haven't seen anything likeit.
I mean, I don't know who wonBest Actress the past three
years, and I don't care, butI'll always remember this
(23:26):
performance.
Rob (23:27):
Oh, yeah, she's amazing.
Papa Tregs (23:28):
You know, Rob, you and I talked about why it was
Paul, is it Paul Mescal, likethe tequila, or Paul Mescal?
Rob (23:34):
I've heard it both.
Papa Tregs (23:35):
Okay.
Well, I kind of see why he wasup for supporting actor, because
he's in and out of the film.
He's not there full time.
It's her movie.
It's her movie, for sure.
Peter (23:43):
And a weaker actress could have destroyed that movie.
Yeah, no, she's she's cute.
I like I like her.
No, but you know what I mean.
Just like her personality, sheseems cute and everything.
Papa Tregs (23:57):
She she's raw in this movie.
She's not, there's no makeup,there's intense, tight
close-ups.
I would say to myself, thiswoman is beautiful.
You know what I mean?
Naturally beautiful.
You know, she took my breathaway a couple of times.
Rob (24:11):
But let me ask you this, dad, because you had said this
because I was bawling.
Like, I'm I after the movie,like during the movie, like I'm
an ugly crier.
Amelia, she fucking like shecries and she looks the same
when she wipes away the tears.
I, for the rest of the fuckingday, have red eyes.
I look like I've been crying, Ilook like I was in a fight with
(24:32):
somebody.
I just look terrible after Icried, and the whole theater was
crying.
Papa Tregs (24:38):
Oh, yeah, I I heard audible sobs.
Rob (24:40):
Steph would lose it.
Papa Tregs (24:41):
Even the non-criers were like, oh man, you know,
they were at least verballyreacting, you know what I mean?
The guy next to me, he didn'tcry.
The watch, the Apple Watchdude, but he kept going, oh man,
like like he was punched in thestomach or something, you know
what I mean?
But here's the thing like, hadyou uh had me on a week ago, I'd
I wouldn't be able to talkabout it without tearing up.
(25:01):
I think I it's enough time haspassed now.
I will definitely buy thismovie, not to cry, but just to
re-examine it.
That's why I went back a secondtime and I picked up on stuff
that I'd never seen, didn'tcatch the first time because I
was so involved in just a basicstory.
I I've I saw little touches ofSpielberg in this movie, not
enough to turn it into aSpielberg film, but I I saw
(25:22):
parts where he probably said,You might want to do this or you
might want to do that.
Rob (25:26):
Why couldn't he have had a say on Dial of Destiny or the
last 12 Jurassic World movies,if that's the case?
Papa Tregs (25:33):
That's a good point.
Yeah, I think he was at thelunch.
Rob (25:36):
He's like he was burning some money somewhere.
Papa Tregs (25:39):
Did he even show up for the dailies?
Rob (25:40):
I mean well, I was telling Pete that you know, I don't have
kids.
And this movie still moved me,you know, to my core, but it's
gotta be a rougher watch topeople with kids, right?
Papa Tregs (25:55):
Absolutely.
And when I knew you were going,I'm like, I don't know if Rob
will cry because he hasn't beena parent, you know, but that
shows, you know, that you're howsentimental you are and that
that you do have, you know.
That you do have a heart.
Rob (26:10):
Well, let's slow down, let's not go that far.
That's not what I wanted tosay.
Papa Tregs (26:13):
But man, I came out of there and I swear grown men
next to me washing their facesin the sink, trying to hide the,
you know, and that doesn'twork, by the way.
And then I go to Shake Shackand order a burger and look at
the dude, he goes, Are youalright, man?
I'm like, yeah, I just saw amovie, that's all, bro.
But I didn't want to say I sawHamlet because he looked at like
(26:35):
12, you know, and he's like,Hamlet, I thought it was Hamlet.
That's what my students aresaying.
I thought it was Hamlet.
I'm like, oh, I don't want toget into it right now.
I tried to explain it, but theydidn't even know what the word
interchangeable means, so itdidn't work.
unknown (26:48):
Yeah.
Rob (26:48):
But they get it out of the way right at the top of the
movie.
There's a card that explainsit.
Papa Tregs (26:53):
And you know what?
I'm reading the book, andthat's the first page of the
book.
Well, there you go.
I don't know.
Is there a name today that thatwould apply to?
Hamnet and Hamlet, whatever youcall a person either one.
Peter Martino or doucheball theclown.
I knew that was coming.
That's your best man,doucheball the clown.
Liz (27:13):
Yep.
Peter (27:14):
That's how I'm going to introduce myself to everybody.
Papa Tregs (27:17):
Here's the best man, doucheball the clown.
Peter (27:22):
Papa Tregs, what was your reaction to your son getting
engaged?
I didn't get your take on it.
Whoa! Your P.O.B.
Papa Tregs (27:31):
I had no idea for one.
And I really really good atthat.
Yeah, I was there, but here'sthe thing.
When you played the audio,that's me going, Yeah.
Liz (27:42):
You should have been like, fuck yeah.
Papa Tregs (27:46):
But I had no idea, and and Jack didn't tell me, you
know.
So it was it was a great night,man.
It was a really great night.
I'm so happy I was got to bethere.
Yeah.
The only thing is, like, Ican't stay away from piano and I
got in trouble for banging onthe player piano.
If you guys are piano there, II'm like, I gotta play at least
a half a chord.
I'm not to try to impressanybody.
(28:07):
I'm just I'm I'm addicted tokeys, if that makes any sense.
Beethoven over here.
Rob (28:12):
Draghoven.
Tragoven.
Ludwig von Trekthoven.
Peter (28:24):
Just picture your dad with the wild hair.
Papa Tregs (28:29):
I'm not putting myself in the same category as
that guy.
Come on.
Rob (28:33):
Yeah, no, you didn't get in trouble though, did you?
Well, you told me the guy saidsomething.
No, I think I was the only onewho was like, don't touch that.
Yeah.
And I think later the owner,she was like, it was great.
Papa Tregs (28:43):
Because then stop playing songs.
So I'm like, I'll play one.
I think I played Journey, don'tstop believing.
Don't stop.
Which is actually very easy toplay on the piano.
Peter (28:54):
I could teach it in like 10 minutes.
There's a lot of things I wouldlove to learn how to do, but
unfortunately, I don't see ithappening.
Papa Tregs (29:03):
Hey, it's never too late.
I know.
It's never too late, Pete.
I know.
I know.
Since I'm self-taught, I usedto like play cocktail hours at
weddings, and people, I guess,that played piano would watch me
and they're like, you playreally weird.
I'm like, I'm self-taught.
Go away.
Liz (29:18):
Go away.
Go away.
You're playing a piano in apublic place.
And you're like, go away.
Rob (29:26):
At a cocktail hour, you know?
Yeah, no.
Pete, you say you don't playinstruments, but you are a
songwriter.
Nice.
I am.
I mean, I am.
I actually have a clip here ofa song that Pete wrote himself.
Ah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
Boobies, boobies.
I love boobies.
Boobies, boobies.
They bring me much joy.
Boobies, boobies.
I love boobies.
Boobies.
Boobies for every girl and boy.
Boobies that article.
Rob (30:54):
Not bad.
Papa Tregs (30:55):
Steve Grovin.
Yeah.
That's crazy, though.
That's the musical right there.
I can see the guy walkingaround the stage pointing to the
small movies.
The big movie.
Yeah.
Holding a bunch of DVDs.
I'll take them off.
Peter (31:10):
He's wearing he's wearing a mask like the Phantom of the
Opera.
Papa Tregs (31:13):
He's in a blockbuster, and they're like,
you can't take them.
I'll take them off.
Peter (31:19):
See, now we're getting somewhere, guys.
This is what we need to be, youknow, brainstorming.
Rob (31:24):
You know, he's saying boobies.
He's not saying movies.
Oh, he is?
Peter (31:27):
Oh.
You don't you don't movies?
Papa Tregs (31:31):
Yeah.
I like movies better.
I like boobies better.
I I tried to circle back toHamlet.
Oh no, it's like.
Rob (31:41):
Well, we were talking about the Golden Globes, and this was
one of the awards show firstaward shows in a long time where
like I actually watched throughthe whole thing and I didn't
get really bored.
Papa Tregs (31:50):
I didn't like this, but you said the choice of
playing party songs when peoplecame up to see the somber music.
But when Jesse Buckley wentone, it was like, celebrate dead
kids, come on.
Yeah, that's true.
It didn't work for everyone,but no, I didn't mind it.
I thought it was a good choice.
(32:11):
I didn't like those two-knuckleheads.
Jesse Buckley has a size sevenshoe.
Rob (32:16):
Oh, yeah, the commentators that I did not like.
You're right.
I completely forgot about that.
And that one guy, he's beenaround forever.
He used to do like the E-redcarpets and stuff, but like he's
not a guy who should be on amicrophone.
He's like, Noah Lyle just wonfor the pit.
And it sounds like he's got apit of his own at home with the
twin tins.
And it's like, this guy shouldnever be near a microphone, and
(32:38):
he's like the one guy with amicrophone.
Peter (32:40):
Yeah, they just had Kevin Fraser last time doing it.
And then for some reason, theystuck this Mark Malkin Malkin
guy with him to like, I guess,have some kind of kind of a
banter between them, but it wasjust very annoying and awkward.
Rob (32:55):
And Fraser's fine, he's by himself, you know, like he's got
a good voice.
Peter (33:00):
Yeah, I didn't mind him last year when he was by
himself.
Rob (33:02):
But then he's not fumfering around trying to come up with
facts.
And when they cut to him, theguy has a script.
unknown (33:09):
Yeah.
Peter (33:10):
He sounds on Mike like he's making shit up as he goes.
Like the shit they were sayingwas so stupid.
Like Timothy Chalamet thankedKendall Jenner when he won the
SAG Award.
Let's see if he thanks heragain.
Liz (33:23):
Like, who the fuck cares?
Rob (33:27):
I did like um Pete.
You actually texted me duringthe globes.
It was it was a nice littletouch at the end of the Golden
Globes when Nikki was wearingthe spinal tap hat.
Peter (33:36):
Yeah, that was perfect.
Rob (33:38):
Because there's no in memoriam at the globes, and it
would have brought the wholework you know room down to do
anything bigger.
So I thought that was a nicetouch.
Peter (33:47):
Yeah, for sure.
Rob (33:48):
It was a definitely a nice touch.
Papa Tregs (33:50):
I did watch Stand By Me over the break, but man,
that movie holds up.
Peter (33:54):
Yeah.
I actually tried to watch itwith my kids, but I didn't
realize I forgot how bad it was.
So we had a we had to stop.
No, I tried, I actually playedit and then like Oh, don't Rob
got scarred for life.
Papa Tregs (34:09):
I didn't sleep for two weeks.
One of my biggest regrets as aparent was letting them see that
movie because I forgot aboutthe dead body shot.
Peter (34:16):
Yeah, totally that just like all the cursing and stuff.
You become so desensitized withlike these movies that you grew
up with because it's just beenpart of your life, and you you
know, but to see it, you know,from a new pair of eyes, it's
it's pretty bad.
Rob (34:33):
See, for me, yeah, like the cursing and all that stuff
wasn't the problem for me.
Like, because I was a littlekid, and I was usually a loner
as a little kid, so I all I didwas play in the woods.
That's all I ever did, right?
Papa Tregs (34:45):
Oh, that was the woods connection.
Rob (34:47):
And so at the end, when they find a dead body of a kid
in the woods, for some reason,it hit me so hard, and I
literally could not like sleepalone for like two weeks.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Papa Tregs (34:59):
He well, and they they shouldn't have showed the
face.
That the green face was whatdid you know what I mean?
These lanes sideways.
Peter (35:08):
Well, it's a Stephen King, it's based on the Stephen
King, you know, short story.
Rob (35:12):
Yeah, I know you both I don't watch it, but I know you
both watch Welcome to Derry.
Papa Tregs (35:18):
No, I couldn't.
I mean, first episode, the akid gets ripped in half.
I'm like, I'm good.
Right, Pete?
Peter (35:25):
Doesn't that happen like at the end?
Yeah, so you just watch thefirst episode and that's it.
Papa Tregs (35:29):
Yeah, I said, yeah, it's something about killing
kids.
I uh yeah, I know Pete's allabout the killing kids.
Peter (35:34):
Well, I mean, the the way they die, it's very, it's very
supernatural.
It's not like you know what Imean.
Papa Tregs (35:40):
So yeah, I don't know.
Maybe I'll give it a I don'tknow.
Maybe I gotta watch it duringthe daytime.
Rob (35:45):
Too scary.
I gotta come play with youwhile you're sleeping.
Yeah.
I'm I'm gonna give you thefirst ever ever built Sony CD
player that skips every song.
That's how that's how you triedto calm me down was you gave me
a compact disc player, but Ibelieve it was the first one
ever invented because every CDwe put in it would skip.
(36:08):
Yeah, right.
I'm sure I pounded it at somepoint.
Yeah, I'm sure you got mad andpunched it at something.
Papa Tregs (36:18):
That always works with equipment.
Yeah, that never makes itworse.
I felt like the worst father,you have no idea.
Your mom was pissed at me.
Why would you let him watch it?
And I'm like, I forgot aboutthe green body.
Rob (36:29):
I'm sorry.
I mean, it's not the worstthing in the world.
You know, it's like youwouldn't have known.
I mean, like you wouldn't haveknown it would have had that
effect on me, you know?
Papa Tregs (36:36):
It's like Well, you had seen Readers of the Lost Ark
with faces melding.
I thought, this is nothing.
Peter (36:41):
Right.
Yeah, yeah, you never know whatlike a kid's gonna be affected
by, you know what I mean?
Papa Tregs (36:46):
Like something, it's true.
Like I got traumatized at hisage, the same age my dad watched
Lord of the Flies, the oldblack and white one, and there's
a scene that I if you read thebook, there's a scene where the
meeting kids just a goofy kidwith glasses, and it's just
innocent.
He's down below, and they pusha giant rock right on top of
this.
Yeah, it's a fat kid, right?
(37:07):
That they do.
Yeah, yeah, Peggy, Peggy, yeah,yeah, yeah.
And and then all his friendsare like, Peggy, no, yeah.
You know, and like nightmaresfor a week, but my dad wasn't
trying to come and lay with me.
It was me, just me in my room,and my brother tormenting me.
Peggy, no.
I'm like, stop.
Rob (37:23):
Pete, do you have any movies that like stuck with you
as a kid that were liketraumatizing?
Were you all man?
Peter (37:30):
I'm all man.
No, I uh child's play was a bigone for me.
I remember I was scared ofChucky, and I had the my buddy
doll.
I don't know if you guys don'tknow.
Rob (37:39):
Oh, yeah, it was just like Chucky.
Peter (37:41):
Yeah, it looked pretty much just like Chucky.
So as soon as I saw Child'sPlay, that fucking thing went in
the attic and like stay therebecause I didn't have anything
to do with it after that.
Rob (37:52):
It's still there.
Peter (37:53):
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a big one forme.
I don't know why, but now youknow, now I watch it and I'm
like, what what the what thehell is it?
Rob (38:00):
Yeah, when you get older, then you go back, and like I
remember watching Stand By Me aslike a teenager, and I was
like, what the fuck was I scaredabout?
This is nothing, you know, butit's right, I don't know, it's
at the right time, the rightage, it gets you.
Papa Tregs (38:13):
Yeah, 100%.
My mom didn't like all themovie movies like my dad did, so
I was his movie buddy for RRadio movies when I was like 12
and 13.
So he had me in Marathon Man,and you know, this is thing, you
know, and they're knifingpeople in the street.
I didn't bother me at all.
Yeah.
So I think he he kind ofhardened me to that kind of
violence.
Rob (38:32):
Well, what's funny though is you did try to respect the
cursing because I remember youshowed me, I don't know if it
was like Terminator 2 orsomething, and you tried to live
censor it by pausing it everytime they said fuck.
I'm like, just play it.
I know what they're saying.
Papa Tregs (38:50):
I didn't I knew that movie that well.
Yeah, you knew it enough toknow when the fucks are coming.
I couldn't tell you how itplays out now.
All I remember is a guy gettingthe milk cart and sword through
the mouth or whatever.
Rob (39:02):
Yeah, that was fine, but the word fuck, oh boy.
Papa Tregs (39:08):
I think a couple movies I put my hand over Jack's
eyes when he was little person.
Showgirls.
unknown (39:14):
Yeah.
Rob (39:14):
I think you put your hands over my eyes during the sex
scene in Dances with Wolves.
Oh, really?
Peter (39:20):
Yeah.
Is there nudity in that though,or is it just like kind of
speaking of love scenes?
Are you guys watching HeatedRivalry?
What everybody's talking about.
I'm good.
Liz (39:32):
No penises in this mouth, son.
Peter (39:36):
Uh yeah, I uh I haven't seen it, but oh my god,
everyone's talking about it now.
Papa Tregs (39:41):
I'm good.
Just like I didn't see themovie with Zendayah and the the
tennis players.
I I have no problem with that,but it's just like wait, why are
they?
Rob (39:49):
Oh, whoa.
Papa Tregs (39:51):
Whoa Double woe.
That's my favorite.
That's one of the mostdisturbing sound clips.
And you don't have to connectit to that movie.
It's just Harrison Ford, that'ssome of his best acting.
I know.
Peter (40:11):
Yeah, I know, right?
It's a lot of sound clips.
Rob (40:13):
It's a little too.
It's like there's really inStar Wars and Indiana Jones, the
two most uncomfortable thingsin the whole thing come from
Harrison Ford because that scenewhen you know when he's not
even on camera being torturedand in the other room.
And in Temple of Doom, whenhe's on the Rock Crusher and the
(40:34):
Voodoo doll, like it's sofucking like intense.
Peter (40:41):
Like I thought you were gonna say when he drank the
blood of Kali was on the rock,like fucking out.
You know, even that, like we'reso desensitized by it now
because we've seen it like amillion times.
But you know, you show a kidsomething like that, and it's
just like, what is going on?
Like the fucking heart sceneand everything.
Rob (41:01):
Well after Amelia and I watched Raiders, she she said
Last Crusade was always herfavorite, but she'd only ever
seen Raiders in Last Crusade,and so so like I was like, Oh,
we gotta watch Temple of Doom.
And you know, like she fellasleep the first time we watched
Raiders, and she fell asleepwhen we were watching Last
Crusade, just because you knowit got late or whatever, but she
(41:22):
stayed the fuck awake forTemple of Doom because she was
like, like, there were so manytimes where she just turned me
and she was like, Jesus Christ.
And I'm like, Yeah, I didn'tthink about it like that.
It's been a minute, like it'sfucking dark as fuck.
Papa Tregs (41:39):
They're whipping children and stuff.
Yeah.
Well, you you guys know thatthat movie and Gremlin single
single-handedly created the PG13 rating.
Rob (41:49):
Yep.
Yeah, they're like, it's notbad enough to be R, but it's
definitely not like Jaws is PG.
Papa Tregs (41:55):
Oh my god, the Quinn Death scene is such an R-rated
thing, too.
Peter (41:59):
I know there's a lot of movies that got away with the PG
rating back in the day thatshouldn't be PG.
Rob (42:05):
That is one that I fucked up on is Jaws because when Jack
was like a toddler, we werewatching Jaws like in the
beginning, and then I dozed offand I woke up to Quint being
thrashed around and Jack justsitting there with the uh
biggest eyes I've ever seen on akid, just like oh no, I was
like, oh fuck.
Papa Tregs (42:26):
Like I think I came up on him, I go, Why are you
showing him this?
Peter (42:30):
It's like whoops.
One time I felt so bad when myniece was really young, who
framed Roger Rabbit was on TV,and it was a part at the end
where Judge Doom, like, youknow, gets the high-pitched
voice and his eyes like turninto like the daggers and
everything.
She lost it, and I felt so badbecause I killed your brother.
(42:52):
Yeah.
And I talked just she lost it.
Like the fear in her eyes.
I I just still see it to thisday, and I felt absolutely
terrible.
She didn't cry with a littlecartoon shoe.
No, we it was just like you,you know, we I put it on, it was
(43:12):
towards it was at that part inthe movie, so I thought, oh, you
know, she'll she'll watch this.
And then that then he turnedinto you know the evil
character, and she lost it.
And I was like, oh man, I feltso bad.
Rob (43:25):
All the hits tonight.
I know.
Who frame Roger Rabbit,Showgirls by me?
Papa Tregs (43:32):
Jaws.
I was in Jaws, okay.
So uh this woman I work withgoes, my father-in-law was in
Jaws.
I'm like, no way, show me apicture.
And it's the guy in the yellowraincoat from Jaws 2 with the
blonde hair.
Uh I'm like, that's Jaws 2.
And she goes, Oh, well, still.
I'm like, it's all it's stillno, it's not still.
Peter (43:55):
It would have been funny if if her dad was like the guy
that was like, uh what?
Rob (44:00):
Yeah, that would have been amazing.
Yeah, I don't want to made itfirst by Tiger Shark.
Liz (44:09):
I'm gonna stick your friggin' head in there.
Papa Tregs (44:14):
And I'm dating myself here and it's going well,
but I had to wait in line atthe garden theater in the hot
sun for two hours.
Back then you bought yourticket and you got in line on
the street.
That's why the term blockbustercame.
It went all the way down toPalmer Square from the garden
theater.
Rob (44:30):
No QR codes then, son.
Papa Tregs (44:33):
No, are you kidding me?
Liz (44:34):
No reserve seating then?
Papa Tregs (44:36):
No, you sat reused out.
I think I said pretty up close,too.
Reclining?
Liz (44:40):
What the fuck is reclining, motherfucker?
Papa Tregs (44:44):
And also, too, the very first movies that have
stereo were Star Wars and CloseEncounters.
Everything else was mono backthen.
Rob (44:51):
It was all mono back then.
We all had mono back then.
Remember, folks?
Do the kids still get mono?
Is that still a thing?
No, they don't have no ideawhat it is.
Because I was always jealous ofthose kids because they'd be
like out of school for likeweeks.
I know.
It's like, oh, so-and-so's gotmono.
I'm like that.
And they were making girl.
Papa Tregs (45:12):
I know.
And I used to say the otherkids got his brother's got
stereo.
Rob (45:17):
And you were the smartest kid in the room, but everyone
made you feel like an idiot, Ibet.
Yeah, I know.
Yep, yep.
That was my that was my schoolexperience.
Peter (45:24):
And now that's my work experience because I say things
sometimes, and it's just likeright over their head.
I know.
It's like Tragler, get overhere.
You made us laugh.
Rob (45:34):
Tragler, get over here.
Papa Tregs (45:37):
Stop making us laugh.
The good old day.
Rob (45:40):
Tragler's making a clever joke.
I was constantly bullied.
Peter (45:44):
Yeah, there were so many assholes in my town.
Papa Tregs (45:47):
Oh, dude, I used to walk to Reynolds and Tragler
pummeled with snowballs, youknow, and like I remember laying
in the snow and like, stop,please.
Rob (46:03):
Jersey, man.
Jersey's rough.
Yeah.
Papa Tregs (46:05):
Yeah, it's a rough time, place to grow up.
Yeah, for sure.
I wonder what the bullies werelike out here.
Hey yo, man.
You're nobody likes you.
No one, no one likes you, man.
Rob (46:16):
Meet me on the playground at three o'clock.
You're gonna take the 10 to the405.
Yeah, get off at Lankersham.
Papa Tregs (46:24):
I always I find myself always quoting Bubba,
though.
Like, sometime when I have arough day at school, I'm like,
I'll go off to another teacherand go, I won't go home.
Rob (46:36):
And on that note, yeah.
Papa Tregs (46:39):
Pete, try to get your wife, get a babysitter, go
see Hamnet while you still can.
Yeah.
Don't watch it with the lightson and chips, and you know.
Pause it, I gotta go to thebathroom.
Peter (46:48):
Pause it, I gotta go jerk off.
unknown (46:54):
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