November 8, 2025 • 53 mins
What makes an icon endure: muscle, myth, or mindset? We gather a lively panel to track Arnold Schwarzenegger’s improbable climb from Austrian bodybuilder to global action star to California governor—and why that exact trajectory may never be possible again. We start by ranking his “big three” careers and quickly find ourselves weighing influence against output: Mr. Olympia titles that mainstreamed bodybuilding, a blockbuster run that minted catchphrases for generations, and a centrist political chapter that defied expectations in a polarized state.
From there, we dive into the movies that made—and sometimes remade—his image. Terminator 2 gets the love for the rare sequel that outshines the original, while Predator remains a master class in squad tension and physical stakes. We celebrate curveballs like True Lies and Last Action Hero for their humor and self-awareness, and revisit Conan’s mythic brawn, cheesy effects and all. We also call out the misses: Mr. Freeze’s ice puns that froze a franchise in place and late-era misfits that couldn’t find the right tone for Arnold’s presence.
Could anyone repeat his arc today? We unpack why the 80s appetite for mass and spectacle has given way to leaner aesthetics, fragmented fame, and a different model of toughness. The debate turns to best role versus biggest impact—Terminator’s “I’ll be back” looms large—but True Lies emerges as a showcase for timing and warmth. We cap it with the eternal rivalry: Arnold or Stallone for 80s–90s dominance. Some of us value Rocky’s cultural myth, others point to Arnold’s broader range and global recognition. Either way, the conversation is rich with film history, gym lore, and the audacity it takes to reinvent yourself—again and again.
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SPEAKER_04 (04:32):
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We are going to be talking todayto a panel of guests uh about
all things ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
I'm gonna let these guysintroduce themselves and guys, I
need the answer to these twoquestions first and foremost.
(05:36):
Obviously, I need your name, butwhen did you get your own car
for the first time?
And which animal would yourather be?
A skunk or a fox?
And Mr.
We're gonna start with you.
SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Yo, yo, it's the boy vampire coach, Mr.
Mr.
Ask, you know, from the nastynatty, Ohio.
Um I would rather be, golly, I'mgonna have to go with a skunt on
this one, go a little different.
And uh, yeah, I'll be a skunt,absolutely.
You know, get all the poisonaway from me, you know what I
(06:10):
mean?
And um, so to answer thequestion about when did I get my
first car?
Let me answer that in two quickum answers, real quickly.
The first time, I was 16 yearsold when I got my license, I was
able to drive my dad iRock Z28.
But as far as me actually goingto get my first car, I am 49
(06:32):
years old, getting ready to be50.
I have never actually had theopportunity or needed to buy my
own car, so I have never everpurchased my own car yet.
Okay, but it's right around thecorner, though, because I'm
gonna have to get me one soon.
We're gonna get you one, Mister,for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (06:50):
Uh, next on the list, we have Cole.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Uh, this is Cole, ColeSchneider.
Um, let's see.
Animal.
I gotta go.
I think I'm gonna go with askunk as well.
You got that quiet kind ofpower, you know.
You you're not flashy, you'rejust stinking things up to keep
people away from you.
Um, first car, I was 18 yearsold.
I got a 1990 Nissan Maxima, andthat was a great car.
(07:17):
I had that car for a while, gota lot of compliments on it, too.
And that's what in 2020, Ithink.
I got that car.
So 16 years old.
No, that's a booty car.
That's what yeah, I lived inBaltimore at the time, and I
used to like everybody lovedthat fucking car.
It was so funny.
Love it.
Next on the list, we got Fitty.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Hey everybody, uh, you know me, it's Fiddy.
Um, I got my first car actuallywhen I was 23, so I never owned
a car until I was done withcollege.
Of course, I had my license, butin college I would use my
roommate's car, my parents' car.
Um, but I got my first car at23.
It was a Toyota Corolla, whichlasted me until the age of 36.
(08:00):
Uh, so I had it for 13 years.
It was like 40% of my life waswith that Toyota Corolla.
Um, it's a great car.
Unfortunately, just the enginedoesn't wear out, but the body
of the car wears out.
So I had to get rid of that.
Um, I think I'm gonna go with afox because they're like sly and
they're like the polar oppositeof me, because you know I'm
talkative and a fox don't sayanything.
(08:20):
You don't even know what the foxsays.
So I'm gonna go with that.
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But we got one more guest hereand Dave.
SPEAKER_03 (09:02):
Hey, what's going on, fellas?
It's D Frank.
And uh, you know, so the thesetwo questions are kind of
intertwined.
My first car was uh a 1990 FordTempo, it had four-wheel drive,
they didn't make very many ofthem, and it was really good at
running over animals, which iswhy it didn't last very long.
Um, and uh, you know, in orderto pick up chicks, you had to be
(09:23):
pretty smooth to pick them up ina 94 tempo.
Uh, the animal that I wouldchoose between a skunk and a
fox, I grew up in classic LooneyTunes, man.
Pepe Le Pew, the skunk, man, hegot the girls, he got the girls,
man.
SPEAKER_04 (09:36):
Peppy Le Pew, you know, uh, Mr.
I'm not gonna lie, I was waitingfor the answer that Dave gave
for you with Pepi Le Pew and theskunk.
I really thought that's whereyou were gonna go with this when
we started.
Uh, this we were talking aboutthis before we got rolling, but
for me, uh kind of like Mr.
I I got a hand-me-down 91Ozmobile Aurora when I was 16
(10:00):
from my parents.
Um, but actually got my firstcar when I was 23, and it was uh
it was a 2016 Mazda 3.
So yeah, went from a big oldboat of a car to the smallest
thing possible that uh my sixfoot five ass would fit into.
(10:24):
So yeah, it was it was a goodcar, lasted me a while, um, but
had to get back to to biggertrucks and SUVs now.
Uh can't can't be riding thesethese little cars anymore.
But we're not here to talk aboutcars.
Oh, uh for the animal.
I forgot that one.
Um I gotta go Fox, just uhmainly on the sheer fact I don't
(10:46):
I don't know about I but buteither of these two animals um
wouldn't be my first choice.
But uh everyone else said skunk,so I'm gonna say fox, uh like
Fitty.
I'm gonna go with Fitty and uhwe're gonna be a Fox for sure.
Uh but let's start talking aboutall things Schwarzenegger here.
Um, and Mr.
(11:06):
We'll start with you.
Uh if you had to rank Arnold'sbig three career highlights of
being an actor, a bodybuilder,and a politician from one to
three, and one being the highestand three being the lowest,
where would you rank them?
SPEAKER_02 (11:22):
I would say bodybuilder one, movie theater
two, and then politician three.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
Yeah, Bitty, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
I would say bodybuilders one.
I'm gonna say politicians two,though.
Here's why, because he didsomething probably none of us
may ever seen ever again, is hewent from literally being an
actor and a and an actor and abodybuilder to the governor, a
two-time governor um in in thestate of California with no
(11:54):
political experience.
There's been very few peoplethat have ever like transitioned
from movies completely over.
You know, you had like RonaldReagan, right?
But Ronald Reagan was alsoinvolved in some other politics.
He needed to jump to like thegovernor spot.
And then also the thing aboutArnold um, too, is I mean, not
(12:15):
beginning political or anything,but he did that in California as
a two-time Republican umgovernor.
So I would say you wouldprobably have to give him a
little bit of credit um withthat, just because what he did
was was very uh was verydifferent, wasn't seen.
The close, probably the nextclosest person was actually, for
all us wrestling fans, Jesse toBody Ventura with what he did in
(12:35):
Minnesota, but he did that aslike an independent candidate,
but he was also a mayor beforethat.
But then I would say probablyacting is number three, but
beyond, yeah, it's weightliftingfirst, and then probably it
could be flipped very easily.
I would say politician second,and then probably movie actor
third.
SPEAKER_03 (12:51):
Okay.
De Frank, what about you?
Oh, I mean, it's inchronological order, right?
You know, if he doesn't start asa bodybuilder, then the other
opportunities in America don'tcome for him.
And so I think you do have to donumber one.
Uh, as an actor, number two, um,you know, his just catalog of
movies is is so extensive.
And it went all the way fromConan where they had to dub his
(13:13):
voice in, to, you know, theexpendables, right?
So he runs a whole gamut.
However, I'm with Fitti Man.
His work as a politician,particularly as a centrist right
candidate who you know, eventoday continues to put out uh a
ton of uh he puts out a dailynewsletter that I get every day
because it's it's just commonsense stuff in America in a
(13:34):
place where there isn't enoughcommon sense anymore.
Heard that.
Cole, what about you?
SPEAKER_00 (13:40):
Yeah, uh for me personally, I think uh I gotta
go acting number one justbecause that's what I know him
mostly as uh bodybuilding.
I think it's like D.
Frank said, that withoutbodybuilding, he never would
have been the guy that he was inacting.
Uh, but you know, the politicianside, it's one of those things
where he did have a lot of goodhealth initiatives as well for
kids at the time when he was inthere.
(14:01):
Um he's done stuff in the pastfor uh uh, you know, uh folks
that are maybe lower income,things along those lines.
So you got to give it to him onnumber three as well when it
comes to being a politician.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Yeah, I got you on that one.
I'm I'm pretty consistent witheveryone here, pretty much, you
know, bodybuilding, acting, andthen politician.
Um, I feel like that's that's afair order, uh, mainly because
bodybuilding is what guy gavehim, I guess, his name to fame,
which led to the acting, whichthen led to the politician.
So yeah, you can't have him getto where he was without the
bodybuilding, I think.
(14:33):
So that's obviously got to benumber one for sure.
But Cole, stay with you.
What are your well uh if I couldtalk tonight, that'd be great.
Uh, what are your three mostpersonal favorite Arnold movies?
SPEAKER_00 (14:46):
All right.
So, number one is my all-timefavorite, Terminator 2.
I think that's probably gonna bea pretty popular pick.
It's uh James Cameron.
I love James Cameron's take onTerminator series.
I think it's a fantastic movieas just a general movie, so I
gotta go T2.
Uh, number two, a lot of peopleare probably gonna hate this,
(15:08):
uh, but I gotta go last actionhero because when I was a kid,
that was one of my favoritemovies of all time.
Uh, I watched it probably 40times in one year.
Uh, and then I think that I meanPredator is one of the coolest
movies ever.
So uh Predator's right there,right behind it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
So okay.
D Frank, what about you?
Well, I I'm kind of surprisedthat Cole pulled Last Action
Hero because that's a greatpull.
Uh, I think it's fantastic.
There's another movie that thatyou know it kind of ages me as a
90s baby in the fact that I lovetrue lies.
Uh, I thought that that wasphenomenal.
Um you know, and uh I I thinkhonestly, you know, you guys are
(15:52):
gonna hate this, but uh his turnas kindergarten cop doing a
little comedy was uh wasclassic.
Like uh there's so many linesfrom that movie, it's not a
tuma, that was just so great.
SPEAKER_04 (16:04):
Yeah, that that's you you pulled a good one there
with kindergarten cop.
But Freddie, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (16:10):
Um, probably my favorite is probably uh Conan
the destroyer, because it he waslike so like just awesome in
that with like Will Chamberlainand people didn't know Andre the
Giant actually played themonster in that.
Um, so I I love him in that.
Um I thought it was just reallygreat.
(16:30):
Um, and I'd probably sayPredator was number two.
And then Terminator One, I loveTerminator two, but Terminator
One is probably my thirdfavorite with him because that
whole frame, though, was in the80s, and that was like before we
knew 90s Arnold, right?
Like those movies kind of madehim.
So I really like to be likenostalgic with that, but those
(16:52):
three are are definitely myfavorites.
SPEAKER_02 (16:54):
I gotcha, Mister.
What about you?
I tell you what, man, those areall good and great picks, man.
But I might have to, you know,one of mine is Total Recall,
man.
I can watch that movie a lot andmore and more.
Uh Total Recall, The Runny Man.
Uh love that one.
Um, and and then I'm probablygonna have to go with either um
(17:19):
probably Predator, man.
You know, Predator was you knowsaying what was a it was a
classic, you know, that firstone, you know, with all them
guys in there, man, all them,you know, former wrestlers that
was in there, man.
So those are my man.
SPEAKER_04 (17:34):
And you can't, you know, Commando was a good one
too, but yeah, there there's somany that it's tough to narrow
down three for me.
Uh T2 for sure.
Um, just that the wholeTerminator series is great.
And you know, plus having MarkChristopher Lawrence on the show
way back when we basically firstgot started, you know, T2 is
(17:56):
definitely uh up there for me.
Um I gotta go Predator for mynumber two.
And it's such a tough pick fornumber three.
So since we're around theholidays, I'm gonna go with
Jingle all the way.
Uh just to add a little bit ofcomedy.
(18:16):
And you know, it's close to theholidays.
We're in November, so we'regonna get we're gonna throw a
little holiday favorite in thereall the way.
And uh just with the but it wasclose one for with kindergarten
cop for me, just because of thelines, you know, put that googie
down, you know, like that'syou've got those with jingle all
the way.
You can always have all thoseone-liners in there, so that's
that's it for me uh with thosethree for sure.
(18:39):
Uh Mr.
Uh, have you ever seen Arnoldand Conan in the yeah, in the
Conan movies?
Uh that would be Conan theBarbarian and Conan the
Destroyer.
If so, what are your thoughts onthese movies?
SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
You know what?
I mean, I'll I like both ofthem.
You know, I but I'll tell youanother one was Red Sonia.
I don't know if you guysremember remember that one that
was in, but that was was thatwas a good one, man.
Um, but uh but Conan theBarbarian, the first one, I you
know, I love that one.
I can I can watch that one allday long.
Uh you know, it really, you knowwhat I'm saying?
(19:18):
It's show off how buffed he wasin those movies, man.
But that one though, but Conanthe Barbarian, but I also like
Red Sonia.
That was another one they wasthere.
It was like a spin-off from theum Conan Barbarian, Conan
Destruction.
SPEAKER_04 (19:33):
I gotcha.
Freddy, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
Oh, yeah, no, I love both Conan's.
Um, uh Conan the Barbarian wasgreat.
I mean, I love James Earl Jones.
Uh, he had a great voice aswell, like right there with Sam
Elliott, like the voice of Godtype of deal.
Um, really like that.
Um, the Snake King thing, yeah,I mean, it is what it is.
I mean, it was pretty cheesywhen they had like James Earl
Jones transform into the snake,it was very cheesy.
You could tell it was very 1982.
(19:57):
Conan the destroyer, though, Ireally like that.
Like I talked about like Andrethe Giant was in that, Will
Chamberlain, Grace Jones, agreat cast.
The one thing I'll say, and ifpeople don't know, like you can
look this up.
So when they were Mook in thatmovie, and sorry, it's gonna get
just off topic for a second, butArnold Wilt, Wilt was in his
50s, he had Arnold, then you hadlike prime Andre the Giant, WWF.
(20:20):
And it's quoted that Arnold saidthat he was the weakest out of
the three of them, but he saidWilt Chamberlain was the
strongest human being he's ever,ever weightlifted with.
Um, and there was always storiesabout that, but he said Will
Chamberlain, pound for pound, isprobably the strongest person
he's ever he's ever seen inweightlifting.
(20:42):
He was even stronger than Andrethe Giant, who was, you know,
who can move cars.
I mean, because he was so big.
But he said Will Chamberlain'spure strength.
I think he talked about himbenching like 500 pounds in his
50s.
Um, you know, talked about justhow freakish of an athlete,
which we talked about on the oneshow, about the greatest
athletes of all time, about WillChamberlain.
(21:02):
So, yeah, you can looked it up.
Arnold, uh, Arnold talked aboutthat.
He said Will Chamberlain wasfreakishly strong.
But yeah, I love both Conans.
Uh, it's definitely reallygreat.
And probably the best one isprobably in the destroyer when
they're going through thewaterfall to go into the cat the
thing.
And the guy's like, my brothers,cousins, uncles, sisters,
nephews, neighbors said thatthere's a secret passageway
(21:26):
through here.
And then he like keeps repeatingit, but he keeps messing it up.
And he's like, My neighbor'scousins, brothers, sisters,
dad's girlfriend, and GraceJones just started screaming at
him and like, who even cares?
Like, who cares about yourbrothers, cousins, sisters,
nephews, girlfriends, you know,whatever.
So I always just found superhumor in that, but love both
conans.
Gotcha.
D Frank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (21:48):
Yeah, so uh I prefer Arnold Schwarzenegger when he
actually could speak a littlebit of English.
Uh well, I think the Conanmovies are good.
I think they're a little loweron the totem pole for me.
Uh, and Fiddy, I don't thinkyou're technically allowed to
say Wilt Chamberlain and Poundfor Pound in the same sentence.
SPEAKER_04 (22:09):
That's that's facts for sure.
Cool.
What about you with thesemovies?
SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm kind of with D Frank on those.
Uh I haven't I've watched thosemovies a few times, but it's
been a long time since I've gonethrough them.
Uh, I will say they're bothperfectly like mythical, muscly
mayhem movies, so it's it's funin that way.
Uh one of the best scenes iswhen he's getting whipped around
in a circle when he's fighting.
It's just such a funny scene.
(22:38):
He's like, oh, it's just it'sbright.
Yeah, those movies arefantastic.
They're just not like top of myuh top of my list.
SPEAKER_04 (22:46):
Yeah, they're great.
Um, again, not top of my listlike you there, Cole, but yeah,
there's a lot of hidden comedyin those movies, too, as well.
Little lines that if you're notpaying attention, you'll miss
them.
Like what Cole was saying withspinning around and the
brothers, sisters, mothers,cousins, daughters twice remote,
you know, whatever.
Yeah, it was, you know, justthat whole thing with that.
(23:07):
Like if you're not payingattention, like you you'd miss a
lot of it.
And I think that's what makesit, you know, it's up there, but
it's yeah, it's it's not in mytop five, even for me, for
Arnold.
Um, but Cole, Arnold changed thegame in bodybuilding and in
weightlifting.
And I know you you're not toofamiliar because you came in
(23:29):
when he was, you know, doingmovies.
Uh, do you think there will everbe someone like him again in
bodybuilding, though?
I mean, we have the Arnoldclassic and everything like
that.
Now there's a whole competitionbuilt around him.
Do you think that'll ever happenagain?
SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
No, I I don't think it's really if it hasn't
happened yet, I don't think it'sgonna happen again, right?
Uh it's just what he's like oneof those guys that kind of he
was above what his genre was ina lot of ways.
I don't know.
I don't really know the historyas to why he became that way.
I know that he had the physiqueand all of that, but it's kind
(24:04):
of a crazy thing for him to hitthat superstar status as a a
weightlifter.
Um, you know, I just uh I don'treally know the history behind
it.
If anybody actually knows that,it would be pretty interesting
to hear.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
It's um it's it's it's a lot from where he where
he grew up.
I mean, weightlifting was kindof all he had.
Um, and then it was a dream ofhis to make it to America to be
a professional bodybuilder.
Um, and if anybody has ever seenany of Bill Burr's stand-ups, he
(24:37):
does a whole skit on ArnoldSchwarzenegger and like his
goals and just how ridiculousthey sounded uh to the normal
person that didn't have hismindset, like, oh, I'm gonna
move to America and I'm gonnabecome a famous bodybuilder, and
he does, and then he's like, Oh,I'm gonna start acting and start
doing movies with kids andkindergarten cop and all this,
(24:59):
and all this other stuff.
And then he was like, Oh, andthen I'm gonna marry a Kennedy,
and everyone's like, You are outof your mind, and he does that,
and then now he's a and then hewas a politician.
So it's just he just keepsraising the board.
It's just his mindset that hehad growing up, and bodybuilding
was kind of what it was.
He just always liked liftingweights because it got him away
from everything in uh where hewas growing up.
(25:20):
And for the life of me, I can'tthink of the country where he
grew up right there.
Austria, thank you.
Yep, thank you.
I could not for the life of me,the the name just gone.
Uh, but yeah, that's just wherehe grew up.
That was all he had to get himaway from there, um, and to
America, which is ultimatelywhere he wanted to be.
Um, why do I know this uselessknowledge?
(25:42):
I don't know.
I'm full of it.
Um, I know a bunch of uselessfacts that get me nowhere um in
life right now.
Uh, but that's one of them.
Um, but yeah, that's kind of thethe story there, Cole to answer
that question for you.
Um and where I heard that, Ihave no idea.
Um, so take that with a grain ofsalt, if you will.
But that's that's just what I'veI've heard through the grapevine
(26:04):
and everything like that.
But DeFrank, let's talk aboutwhat about you?
SPEAKER_03 (26:08):
Yeah, so I don't think that you could have uh an
Arnold Schul Schwarzeneggerstory per se anymore.
When he was coming up in thelate 70s and early 80s, the 80s
were just a decade of excess.
And so, you know, the whole ideaof steroids, you know, being
common, you know, if you thinkof the NFLers that were involved
with it, if you think of theprofessional wrestlers, and by
(26:30):
the way, look at them now,they're a little worse for wear
uh because of it.
The 80s weren't real kind to alot of those folks, um, you
know, later on.
And then of course in the 90s,uh, you know, you had Barry
Bonds and Mark McGuire.
And then all of a sudden therecame kind of a negative
connotation to that enormousjacked action hero kind of
situation.
If you think about the actionheroes today, you know, just
(26:53):
look at the running man in 1987when when Schwarzenegger did it,
he was ripped out of his mind.
Now you've got Glenn Powell, whoI mean, dude's fit, but he's not
jacked like that.
That sort of epitomized the 80swas that enormous built, you did
the Stallone show, right?
You know, that whole kind of ageof excess.
I don't think it you're notgonna have that again.
SPEAKER_04 (27:14):
No, it it was a different time where people
wanted to be uh, for lack of abetter term, I mean using this
term a lot today, and it's yokedout of their mind.
You know what I mean?
Like just absolute monsters ofmen in the 80s and like the
early 90s and that.
So, like that was the thing.
Now it's more of this tonedjacked, if you will, like, but
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like these MMA, this mixedmartial arts that's coming about
where you don't need to be 300pounds of pure muscle.
You could be like a conMcGregor, 135, and still kick
the shit out of everybody thatcomes across your path.
You know what I mean?
And it you're still tough andyou're still strong in your own
right.
Um, so I don't to to answer thequestion quickly, I don't think
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that we'll ever be anybody kindof like, oh, if it hasn't
happened yet, it's not gonnahappen.
Um, at least in our lifetimes,um, that we'll we'll see here.
Uh, but Fitty, what about you?
What are you what are yourthoughts?
SPEAKER_01 (28:09):
No, I think those are those are definitely valid
points.
Yeah, and I don't think it'llever happen again.
Because the thing is, like,there's too many other sports
now that are popular, there'smainstream social media, right?
So it's also changed the game,like in that regard.
The guy thing, like Arnold grewup, people were using rotary
phones, right?
And writing letters.
Like, there's no computers, nothis, no that.
(28:30):
But he, you know, everybody knewwho he was, like coming up.
And I think the other thing isas well, like you have to
realize um if if somebody likeJay Cutler didn't do it, or um
Ronnie Coleman couldn't do whatwhat Arnold did and they were
close, but they couldn't do it,then no one's overtaking Ronnie
Coleman or Jay Cutler, let aloneovertaken you know, Arnold
(28:53):
Schwarzenegger.
Because I don't think peoplealso like to what you guys were
saying, like, don't admire a300-pound super jacked guy now.
You look at him, you're like,ah, look at this guy.
Like, he's probably on steroids.
Like to Dave's point.
Like, you look at a guy who'slike Tom Brady, and you're like,
Well, I want to be that guy whenI'm 47 years old and be like
that trim and that in shape.
I don't think just don't thinkpeople admire like you being
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super jacked like like he was orIvan Drago was, you know what I
mean?
Like in Rocky IV, um, with DolphLundgren.
So I just think the times havechanged, but yeah, I don't think
there'll ever be another him inweightlifting.
SPEAKER_04 (29:28):
Yeah, for sure.
Mr.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (29:31):
Yeah, you know, I I you know I agree with all of you
guys.
I think the thing is it's just adifferent time period, different
mindset across the board.
You know, you just look at itfrom the from the 60s to the
80s.
Um, it was just a different timeperiod.
I mean, during that time period,that's what the guys was doing,
trying to get as big aspossible.
You know, trying to get as bigas possible.
(29:53):
Uh, and you know, like I don'tknow, he, you know, he came over
here to America from a differentcountry and and his outlet was
waste.
And he was able to, you know,put himself in a good position
where somebody saw him andwanted to, you know what I'm
saying, see where they can gowith him.
And, you know, and that's gonnabe rare.
You know, you're not gonna findtoo many, you're not gonna find
(30:15):
too many guys like that now.
You know, like 50 said, youknow, you know, plus it's
there's so many, there's just somany different avenues uh
getting your fix, you know,whatever, you know, whatever
that might be, you know,everybody, you know, not
lifting.
I mean, like 50 said, there's alot of different activities, a
lot of different games.
You know, I think the timeperiod is just it's just
(30:36):
different, you know.
Like I you know, I used to watchthe the the weights um all the
time in them early 80s and 90sand looking at Sean Ray,
Coleman.
Um, I mean, all them guys, youknow, we're talking about guys
who are just Jack, Jack.
You know, looking at the muscle,the muscle magazines, and it's
just a this is just differentnow.
You know, guys have too manymore, you know, it's just too
(30:58):
many more opportunities to doother things.
And I just don't think a lot ofpeople is as serious like that,
you know, how he was.
You know, it was it was his wayout of his situation.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
Yeah, you're you're not wrong with that there.
I I know one guy like that now,and we've had him on the show,
and that's Andrew the DestinLegend Mitchell.
He is an IFB power lifting pro.
Um, he's placed in a couple ofevents and the the biggest dude
next to James Harrison that I'veseen in person in my life.
Um like he he just lost myheadphones there.
(31:32):
Uh he is jacked for I mean,obviously there's a reason now
because he's an IFB pro, but uhat the time when I met him, I
was I was managing an AnytimeFitness, and he was the the
district manager at at the time.
And just looking at him andbeing where I was at like 175
pounds at six foot five.
So uh like not that big of adude just looking at him like,
(31:55):
dude, you got them all, like yougot all the muscles.
Like, why are you like why areyou still here?
Like you got them all.
Like, I I don't I can I havesome because uh like but yeah,
like it, but it's just adifferent mindset of a person
like there's one person that Iknow, and greatest dude in the
world.
Don't don't get me wrong withthat, like uh Drew Mitchell.
Uh I know he listens to the showa lot.
(32:15):
Uh thanks for the support andeverything like that, too.
But yeah, biggest dude uh thatI've seen in person um next to
James Harrison.
And you know, I I don't know.
Were you there, Penny, for thecharity basketball game with the
Steelers when James Harrison wasthere?
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:30):
Yeah, Charlie Bouch walked right past me in the uh
in the in the train when I wasin the training room talking to
T Mike.
Charlie Bouch just walked outthe back door.
So yeah, I was there for him.
SPEAKER_04 (32:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, it was yeah, seeing him andyou know, playing against him,
that was the one game that I youknow I decided to to play
basketball.
And I'm the worst basketballplayer in the world.
Yeah, and just seeing Harrisonthere and like, dude, your your
bicep is the size of my torso.
Like, why are you this big?
Like, you know, so like there'sthe that mindset with people.
(33:01):
Um and it's it's changedcompletely.
Like, because yeah, who whowouldn't want to be Tom Brady in
their 40s right now?
I mean, don't like to do it asan athlete because he's that
good, but he's a good lookingdude for 40s, you know what I
mean?
Like that is what it is, andthat's the new standard, I
would, I would say.
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
I feel like there are some some jack dudes.
I mean, there's like The Rock,Melcena.
I don't know.
Do they care there?
I guess they're not as big asmaybe Schwarzenegger was, but
they're not as big, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:28):
As Schwarzenegger was in his in his prime with
weightlifting, they're they'renot even close to to where he
was.
SPEAKER_02 (33:35):
And you know, and the thing with the with the
whole body thing, like I mean,that's that was their life.
Like, that was their full-timejob.
Their body's all they did.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, lifting and competing.
And you know, you just don'thave, you know, I think we just
had a different time periodwhere uh people, you know, and
then plus number nine thatthough, but just look, you know,
(33:57):
at this with all the informationwe have to look at and access,
you look at and see how how manyof these bodybuilders from the
70s and 80s and even early 90s,look at how the the toll it took
on their body.
You know, look at them rightnow, especially coming, man.
That's I was every time I seethem, man.
I just want to, you know, it'sjust sad.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:18):
It is, yeah.
The steroids took a big toll onon their bodies back then now,
uh uh that they didn't think wasgonna happen.
But you know, such is life, uhit is.
But we'll we'll move on from theweightlifting here, mister.
And uh what do you think?
Is the movie that Arnold playedis the best role ever and his
most well known for.
(34:43):
We asked tough questions here.
Yeah, we asked the toughquestion here.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Yeah, I think that I think that that Predator, you
know what I'm saying, set himoff, man.
Early know early on.
Predator and Commando.
I think when those two moviescame out when he played those
two movies, man, you know,movies just started coming in
left and right.
You know, Commando and Predator.
SPEAKER_04 (35:06):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
I think his best role he probably ever played.
I'm gonna say it's probablyTerminator 2, because there's
not too many sequels to moviesthat have that have been said to
be better than the original.
You could argue maybe Top Gun,The Godfather, and maybe
Terminator.
But I think Arnold, like the wayhe flipped him his character
(35:35):
from one to two, um, you know,was was pretty great.
So I think his best acting moviehe's ever done is Terminator 2.
SPEAKER_04 (35:44):
I gotcha.
Be frank.
SPEAKER_03 (35:47):
Yeah, so you you know, I think Terminator's
probably the role that made himthe most popular, but I go back
to my earlier comment.
Um, you know, when he did TrueLies, his role was Harry Tasker,
where he was kind of the secretagent and then uh, you know, a
family man by day.
It really showed all of hisaction as well as his, you know,
kind of comedic chops as well.
(36:08):
Uh, you know, which that's kindof what he's known for, right?
He's been known for doing alittle bit of everything.
Um, he did the action and he didthe comedy there.
It's Harry Tasker in Two Lives.
Okay.
Cole.
SPEAKER_00 (36:20):
Yeah, uh I mean, I think personally, I think his
most well-known role is probablyTerminator, right?
Everybody does the I'll be Bach,you know.
Uh my favorite, obviously, iswhen he does comedy stuff as
well.
Um, I think that his blend andhis ability to be able to make
fun of himself is fantastic.
So uh my favorite role isobviously uh him and last action
(36:42):
hero for that reason.
I just it's just such a funmovie, making fun of like 90s
action movies, making fun ofhimself.
Like it's just and the fact thathe had a rivalry with uh uh
Sylvester Stall, like it's justsuch a a fun film.
So yeah, that's my favorite.
SPEAKER_04 (36:57):
Yeah, that for me, um I I I gotta say Terminator,
Terminator 2.
Yeah.
I I I I lean one because of thethe I'll be back and everyone
knowing that line.
Uh, but kind of like what Fittywas saying, the flip.
I mean, you can argue theexpendables uh for some of the
(37:18):
newer stuff that a lot of peopleknow for, and just how long that
series went with theexpendables, um, and having
sequel after sequel after sequeluh with that one.
But I I'd have to say that theTerminators uh for me would be
what he's most well known for.
Everyone knows that one, andevery everyone quotes those
(37:41):
movies too to an extent.
And yeah, I think I gotta goTerminator.
But Cole, what would be hisworst movie in your opinion?
SPEAKER_00 (37:50):
Oh man, that's hard.
I don't um I mean there'sthere's some rough ones out
there, right?
Like I'm I'm thinking of uh someof his later stuff.
Like uh I I saw a movie, I thinkit was called The Sixth Day,
which was mediocre, it wasn'tgreat, but it was like whatever.
(38:11):
I think just like at a certainpoint when you kind of hit those
2000s, uh it it took a littlebit of a dive, I think, with a
lot of actors that are based offof their looks.
Um, you know, and it's notreally his acting chops per se.
Like he's a great, he's a funactor, but he's not like a great
actor by any means.
But I think it's uh probably thelatter stuff, the latter stuff
that he did.
(38:32):
Um, younger-wise, I mean, Conanis ridiculous, and he's not
great in Codan.
It's just such a fun movie,though.
So I don't know.
Yeah, probably the latter stuff,like the sixth day.
I didn't really enjoy that.
SPEAKER_04 (38:44):
I gotcha.
D.
Frank, I saw you waving yourarms up, so like you have one in
mind that's obvious.
What do we got?
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
There's only one answer to this question, Mike,
and and I'm sorry if I'm gonnatake this from everybody else,
but his turn is Mr.
Freeze and Batman and Robinmight be the worst movie in
history.
Um, it's it it it set the Batmanseries back uh a decade and took
a Christopher Nolan uh um youknow remake in order to make it
(39:11):
happen.
It's Batman and Robin.
His Mr.
Freeze was awful.
You're not wrong on that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
What about Freddie?
What about you?
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
I'm gonna say because like I'm gonna I don't
know if many people have seenthis, but it's called End of
Days.
And the thing is, like, Iactually like I like those let
me say this the right way.
I don't like demonic movies likeThe Exorcist, but I like like
(39:42):
movies like End of Days, likesomeone's possessed, and you
have a good guy fighting a badguy, whatever, whatever.
It's stuff that's not real,right?
Like fallen with DenzelWashington, same thing.
So I like I like end of days,but he is not an end of days
actor, like fighting the devilon earth who's trying to have
the antichrist born.
You know, it's just not his jam,right?
(40:05):
Like, I mean, Gabriel Burns init, Kevin Polak's in it, but
you're getting a lot of likedemonic possession, cult stuff,
the Catholic Church.
Like, it's very far-fetched, youknow, and he's like a man who
lost his faith.
It's just not his jam.
It's just not his jam in that,and I just don't think he fit
the part.
I think he probably played abetter Mr.
Freeze in this in the sixth daythan he did in uh than he did in
(40:29):
end of days, like fighting thedevil on earth.
So I gotta go end of days, eventhough I do like the movie, is
it was a bad acting job by him.
SPEAKER_02 (40:36):
I got you, Mr.
What about you?
Man, I tell you what, man.
You uh you thought about BatmanRobin?
Oh my gosh, that just made methink about and um you're right.
I mean, that's that's one I waslike, god, he could have passed
that one up.
Um but that one, I mean, theBatman Robin, the inner days,
(40:58):
and then another one is uh, Ithink it's called um I think
it's called Maggie, or it'ssomething he had a daughter
who's who's uh have a virus orsomething, like in the world
type deal.
You know, so I can't think ofthe name of the movie, but that
one was was kind of um, youknow, it was like okay, you
know, you know, he he'ssearching, or you know, he's
(41:19):
just trying to fill time.
SPEAKER_04 (41:22):
But I think if we're if we're forgetting the names of
the movies, like yeah, that'sdefinitely gotta be up there as
one of the worst.
SPEAKER_02 (41:29):
If you can't even remember the name of the movie,
like yeah, I was like, um, I waslike, oh my gosh, yeah, it was
pretty, yeah.
But in the days, and I and youknow what?
And I might have watched In theDays maybe once, and I don't
think I've watched watched, Idon't think I ever watched that
whole movie.
SPEAKER_04 (41:47):
I I've never watched it, so um that that would put it
up there for me because I'venever watched it, but uh D
Frank, you know, with the BatmanRob, Mr.
Freeze, I forgot all about that.
Um, and I'm a huge Batman fan,um, for sure.
Um that's called RepressedMemories, yeah.
(42:07):
Yeah, because that just sparkedthat back up for me.
Now I'm thinking of the linesfrom it, and they're coming back
to me after you mentioned it,and it's just awful.
It's it was a terrible actingjob for that, but yeah, thank
God they saved that.
SPEAKER_01 (42:20):
Wasn't it the one with George Clooney?
SPEAKER_04 (42:23):
Yeah, that was Clooney.
SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
George George Clooney and uh Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey is the ruler.
Um was Uma Thurman in that onetoo, or she in the other one.
SPEAKER_03 (42:35):
The only thing from that entire movie that that
partially redeemed it was thesoundtrack was fair at best.
Oh, seal.
Yeah, the seal.
SPEAKER_04 (42:43):
Yeah, the soundtrack was awesome for that one, but
the acting by Arnold was just ohyeah, it was terrible.
SPEAKER_01 (42:50):
Oh, and who played Robin?
What was his name?
Chris Chris O'Donnell.
SPEAKER_04 (42:55):
O'Donnell, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:56):
So in reality, the cast is actually pretty good if
you think about it.
SPEAKER_04 (43:01):
Oh, the casting's great.
SPEAKER_01 (43:03):
The acting, like, because I mean you have like
George Clooney, you haveSchwarzenegger of Uma Thurman,
you know, Chris O'Donnell, JimCarrey.
Like, it's not a bad cast if youreally think about it, but yeah,
the acting was pretty, but theacting was bad.
Acting was terrible.
SPEAKER_02 (43:18):
I think they I think they was all high when they when
they made that movie.
Every single last one of themwas high.
SPEAKER_04 (43:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll back that.
Yeah, a thousand percent.
Absolutely on that one.
Uh Mister.
Uh, what does where does Arnoldrank amongst uh the best overall
actors of all time, in youropinion?
SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
Top 100.
Yeah.
Top 100.
SPEAKER_04 (43:47):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (43:52):
I mean, I I think people know my top 10.
We've talked about that before.
He's definitely not top 20.
I would say because of hisrange, like I think his range is
good.
Like, he's done comedy, he's onaction, the devil movie, Conan.
You know, he did the movie.
Um uh it was like his firstmovie.
(44:14):
Um whatever, and he was theGreek god.
Um, that one, like from the late60s, early 70s.
Um not Adonis.
Um, anyways, whatever.
He did that one.
So he has a lot of range.
I don't know.
I would probably put him likemid-30s, like 35, 36 actor of
(44:36):
greatest actor of all time.
Because I mean, it's really hardto crack a top 20 level top 10.
So I put him like 35 because ofhis range.
SPEAKER_04 (44:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair.
He's like 40 to 50 for me.
Um on my list.
Yeah, he's top 50.
I'll give him that, but yeah,I'm not going any any higher
than 40 for sure.
Uh D Frank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think top 50 just simply because
of his cultural relevance allthe way around.
Uh, his acting chops, while notgreat, are memorable.
And anybody that can make themovie Junior uh where he plays a
pregnant guy and get away withit, you know, you gotta have in
the top 50.
Absolutely.
Cole, what about you?
SPEAKER_00 (45:17):
Yeah, I think uh top 50, but he is my favorite uh
action star.
He's my favorite action actor ofall time.
So um, you know, me personally,I put him in my top 20 and my
own personal favorite actors,but I think like you guys have
been saying, his cultural revrelevance is super important and
his ability to you know playcomedy and action, it's gotta
(45:40):
put him pretty high up thereoverall.
SPEAKER_04 (45:43):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, yeah, top 50 is is fair,
we'll we'll say.
Um mainly, but mainly becauseMr.
Free sent him back like 25spots, uh for sure.
Um, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:58):
Arnold, the movie, the movie I was talking about is
Hercules in New York, 1970.
Yeah, it's like when he couldbarely, barely speak English.
Um, and he came over, andthere's a scene in that he's
like throwing the discus, helike takes his shirt off, and
it's like when you're talkingabout Arnold 55 years ago, so
he's like 23 years old, he'slike the hugest he ever was.
(46:19):
He like takes his shirt off andhe like then he like throws a
discus and the guy's just likelooking at it and he's like his
like mouth is like hanging up.
He throws it like I don't know,it's like I mean he's Hercules,
he threw it like 500 yards orsomething like that in the
movie.
Um, but yeah, the Hercules inNew York.
If you guys have never seen it,please watch it, it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_04 (46:39):
Yeah, that yeah, I think those are all fair
rankings for sure.
Uh, but Cole, we're gonna roundout the show with this one here.
Uh, do you think Arnold orStallone was a bigger movie icon
in the 80s and 90s?
Not considering the 2000s or thepresent day, just the 80s or the
90s.
SPEAKER_00 (46:59):
I mean, I've I've already said when we did the
Stallone show, I already saidSchwarzenegger was bigger.
Um yeah, we thought about that.
SPEAKER_04 (47:07):
Yeah, we fought about that.
SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
Uh-huh.
But he is.
I mean, most known worldwide,it's gonna be Schwarzenegger
over Stallone all day.
And I love Stallone, like I loveRocky, love those movies, but
when you look at like what theydid throughout their career
movies, it's gotta be it's gottabe Schwarzenegger.
SPEAKER_04 (47:26):
Okay, DeFrank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (47:28):
Uh yeah, I don't know.
I think um, you know, from anacting standpoint, I'm gonna go
Stallone only because I feellike Rocky has more cultural
relevance than some of thescience fiction movies that
Arnold's done.
But I think if you look at thetotal breadth of what uh uh
Arnold's done as an actor, as uha politician, and and
(47:49):
altogether, I you you know it'sreally, really, really tough.
As an actor, though, Stallone.
SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
Stallone.
All right, Pitty, I think I knowwhere you're going with this.
SPEAKER_01 (47:57):
Well, you know what?
If we're looking at the 80s and90s, like here's the thing Rocky
I and Rocky II were in the 70s.
So yours hawking Rocky III,four, and five, and then you're
getting the like with Stallone,like, I mean, a bunch of things,
but like you think of likeDemolition Man, you think of
like Assassins with AntonioBanderas, you think of like
Cliffhanger, you think of likeDaylight, you know, so you start
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thinking about that.
Like, I mean, I think Stopper MyMom Will Shoot might have been
in the 90s as well.
You know, so you're thinking ofthat, and then the and then uh
the Rambos, right?
That's probably what Stallonewas best known for, probably in
that time, more than Rocky III,four, and five, because they
kind of got stupid at variouspoints, even though I love
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Rocky.
But you had like Arnold doinglike this plethora of different
genres where like Stallone justeither played like an actor or a
guy that was getting blown upand then coming back and just
like whooping your ass.
So, like, I don't know, Arnoldhad like a different range.
So, you know me.
I mean, I love SylvesterStallone.
That is my home home guy tillthe I die.
(49:03):
Like that I love him to death.
Um, but I would probably sayArnold was more well known as an
actor in the 80s and 90s becausehe played more diverse roles,
and also Stallone, some ofStallone's stuff was pretty
far-fetched.
Like, if anyone from animeremembers Rambo III when he got
shot in the side and he blew ahole through his side to like
cauterized a wound.
(49:25):
I mean, no one does that, right?
Like, like no one, no one blowsa hole up in their side to like
to cauterize cauterize a wound.
Um, you know, and the movieDaylight was very, very
far-fetched when he like blew ahole in the bottom of the the
river to come up through NewYork City.
And then, like, um, and thenlike in the movie Cliffhanger,
(49:45):
like he's like shooting someonewith a uh with a gun underneath
the ice, and he came out, nohypothermia, hair is completely
slicked back, like so.
He like did some like veryfar-fetched stuff where Arnold
did more realistic stuff.
So I'll give Arnold a nod.
It was long-winded, but youknow, we're on the Ride Home
Rants podcast, and I'm just kindof ranting about bad Stallone
movies.
SPEAKER_04 (50:05):
Got you, Mister.
SPEAKER_02 (50:06):
What about you?
Oh man, just give me thepredator, man.
Give me the predator, I'll takethe predator.
Uh that goddamn Junior, though,man, that kind of just messed it
up for me for a long time whenhe did Junior.
You know, yeah, it it it's youain't see Rambo doing that
stuff, though.
He don't got no movies likethat, huh?
(50:30):
No.
Mr.
SPEAKER_03 (50:32):
You're you're forgetting about an excellent uh
film from Stallone, Tango andCash.
SPEAKER_02 (50:38):
Oh my gosh, yes, Tango and Cash was absolutely
that was good.
That was a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
That was a game for sure.
Bono, here's another one.
I just thought about this too.
I'm pretty sure someone can factcheck me on this, but The
Predator could be the only moviein the history of cinema that
had two future governors of theUnited States in it, Jesse the
Body Ventura and ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
And I would want somebody tochallenge me on that one.
SPEAKER_04 (51:07):
That's a good point.
Yeah, we're we're gonna have tolook this up off the air and
figure this out for you.
Um I'm not sure uh for that one.
Uh for me.
I made a lot of good points forfor Arnold in that one, but I
still gotta give the nod toStallone uh for that one.
(51:27):
Um mainly, you know, the Rambosand the uh the Rockies that he
was, just because those moviesset up the Creed series in the
present day and everything likethat, too, as well, with the
Rockies.
So it's moved other actors on umin their careers and everything
like that with Michael B.
Jordan playing Creed.
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Um, but yeah, I gotta give a nodto Stallone, mainly because I
can understand him more in hisearlier stuff than I could
Arnold, uh, with the both oftheir them having pretty thick
accents, uh, for sure.
Um but yeah, for me that thatthat's that's where I'm going
around the this Arnold show withsaying Stallone was better in
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the 80s and 90s uh for them, andthat is going to do it for this
week's episode of the Ride HomeBrands Podcast.
I want to thank all of myguests, Mr.
Cole, D.
Frank, and Freddy, for joiningthe show, getting to talk all
things Arnold Schwarzenegger forthis one.
It was a lot of fun, uh, a lotof nostalgia with some older
movies and everything like that.
And as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend, tell a
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If you didn't, tell themanyways, because they might like
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We are going to be talking todayto a panel of guests uh about
all things ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
I'm gonna let these guysintroduce themselves and guys, I
need the answer to these twoquestions first and foremost.
(05:36):
Obviously, I need your name, butwhen did you get your own car
for the first time?
And which animal would yourather be?
A skunk or a fox?
And Mr.
We're gonna start with you.
SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Yo, yo, it's the boy vampire coach, Mr.
Mr.
Ask, you know, from the nastynatty, Ohio.
Um I would rather be, golly, I'mgonna have to go with a skunt on
this one, go a little different.
And uh, yeah, I'll be a skunt,absolutely.
You know, get all the poisonaway from me, you know what I
(06:10):
mean?
And um, so to answer thequestion about when did I get my
first car?
Let me answer that in two quickum answers, real quickly.
The first time, I was 16 yearsold when I got my license, I was
able to drive my dad iRock Z28.
But as far as me actually goingto get my first car, I am 49
(06:32):
years old, getting ready to be50.
I have never actually had theopportunity or needed to buy my
own car, so I have never everpurchased my own car yet.
Okay, but it's right around thecorner, though, because I'm
gonna have to get me one soon.
We're gonna get you one, Mister,for sure.
SPEAKER_04 (06:50):
Uh, next on the list, we have Cole.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Uh, this is Cole, ColeSchneider.
Um, let's see.
Animal.
I gotta go.
I think I'm gonna go with askunk as well.
You got that quiet kind ofpower, you know.
You you're not flashy, you'rejust stinking things up to keep
people away from you.
Um, first car, I was 18 yearsold.
I got a 1990 Nissan Maxima, andthat was a great car.
(07:17):
I had that car for a while, gota lot of compliments on it, too.
And that's what in 2020, Ithink.
I got that car.
So 16 years old.
No, that's a booty car.
That's what yeah, I lived inBaltimore at the time, and I
used to like everybody lovedthat fucking car.
It was so funny.
Love it.
Next on the list, we got Fitty.
SPEAKER_01 (07:39):
Hey everybody, uh, you know me, it's Fiddy.
Um, I got my first car actuallywhen I was 23, so I never owned
a car until I was done withcollege.
Of course, I had my license, butin college I would use my
roommate's car, my parents' car.
Um, but I got my first car at23.
It was a Toyota Corolla, whichlasted me until the age of 36.
(08:00):
Uh, so I had it for 13 years.
It was like 40% of my life waswith that Toyota Corolla.
Um, it's a great car.
Unfortunately, just the enginedoesn't wear out, but the body
of the car wears out.
So I had to get rid of that.
Um, I think I'm gonna go with afox because they're like sly and
they're like the polar oppositeof me, because you know I'm
talkative and a fox don't sayanything.
(08:20):
You don't even know what the foxsays.
So I'm gonna go with that.
Um, but I will say this bonothough, I like that.
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And we should get him to narratethe pre-roll for that.
SPEAKER_04 (08:48):
I will say this until this actually happens on
this show for sure, until we canget Sam Elliott to do the
pre-roll uh read for for WebbWestern.
Uh, I'm super excited about themtoo as well.
But we got one more guest hereand Dave.
SPEAKER_03 (09:02):
Hey, what's going on, fellas?
It's D Frank.
And uh, you know, so the thesetwo questions are kind of
intertwined.
My first car was uh a 1990 FordTempo, it had four-wheel drive,
they didn't make very many ofthem, and it was really good at
running over animals, which iswhy it didn't last very long.
Um, and uh, you know, in orderto pick up chicks, you had to be
(09:23):
pretty smooth to pick them up ina 94 tempo.
Uh, the animal that I wouldchoose between a skunk and a
fox, I grew up in classic LooneyTunes, man.
Pepe Le Pew, the skunk, man, hegot the girls, he got the girls,
man.
SPEAKER_04 (09:36):
Peppy Le Pew, you know, uh, Mr.
I'm not gonna lie, I was waitingfor the answer that Dave gave
for you with Pepi Le Pew and theskunk.
I really thought that's whereyou were gonna go with this when
we started.
Uh, this we were talking aboutthis before we got rolling, but
for me, uh kind of like Mr.
I I got a hand-me-down 91Ozmobile Aurora when I was 16
(10:00):
from my parents.
Um, but actually got my firstcar when I was 23, and it was uh
it was a 2016 Mazda 3.
So yeah, went from a big oldboat of a car to the smallest
thing possible that uh my sixfoot five ass would fit into.
(10:24):
So yeah, it was it was a goodcar, lasted me a while, um, but
had to get back to to biggertrucks and SUVs now.
Uh can't can't be riding thesethese little cars anymore.
But we're not here to talk aboutcars.
Oh, uh for the animal.
I forgot that one.
Um I gotta go Fox, just uhmainly on the sheer fact I don't
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I don't know about I but buteither of these two animals um
wouldn't be my first choice.
But uh everyone else said skunk,so I'm gonna say fox, uh like
Fitty.
I'm gonna go with Fitty and uhwe're gonna be a Fox for sure.
Uh but let's start talking aboutall things Schwarzenegger here.
Um, and Mr.
(11:06):
We'll start with you.
Uh if you had to rank Arnold'sbig three career highlights of
being an actor, a bodybuilder,and a politician from one to
three, and one being the highestand three being the lowest,
where would you rank them?
SPEAKER_02 (11:22):
I would say bodybuilder one, movie theater
two, and then politician three.
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
SPEAKER_04 (11:30):
Yeah, Bitty, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
I would say bodybuilders one.
I'm gonna say politicians two,though.
Here's why, because he didsomething probably none of us
may ever seen ever again, is hewent from literally being an
actor and a and an actor and abodybuilder to the governor, a
two-time governor um in in thestate of California with no
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political experience.
There's been very few peoplethat have ever like transitioned
from movies completely over.
You know, you had like RonaldReagan, right?
But Ronald Reagan was alsoinvolved in some other politics.
He needed to jump to like thegovernor spot.
And then also the thing aboutArnold um, too, is I mean, not
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beginning political or anything,but he did that in California as
a two-time Republican umgovernor.
So I would say you wouldprobably have to give him a
little bit of credit um withthat, just because what he did
was was very uh was verydifferent, wasn't seen.
The close, probably the nextclosest person was actually, for
all us wrestling fans, Jesse toBody Ventura with what he did in
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Minnesota, but he did that aslike an independent candidate,
but he was also a mayor beforethat.
But then I would say probablyacting is number three, but
beyond, yeah, it's weightliftingfirst, and then probably it
could be flipped very easily.
I would say politician second,and then probably movie actor
third.
SPEAKER_03 (12:51):
Okay.
De Frank, what about you?
Oh, I mean, it's inchronological order, right?
You know, if he doesn't start asa bodybuilder, then the other
opportunities in America don'tcome for him.
And so I think you do have to donumber one.
Uh, as an actor, number two, um,you know, his just catalog of
movies is is so extensive.
And it went all the way fromConan where they had to dub his
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voice in, to, you know, theexpendables, right?
So he runs a whole gamut.
However, I'm with Fitti Man.
His work as a politician,particularly as a centrist right
candidate who you know, eventoday continues to put out uh a
ton of uh he puts out a dailynewsletter that I get every day
because it's it's just commonsense stuff in America in a
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place where there isn't enoughcommon sense anymore.
Heard that.
Cole, what about you?
SPEAKER_00 (13:40):
Yeah, uh for me personally, I think uh I gotta
go acting number one justbecause that's what I know him
mostly as uh bodybuilding.
I think it's like D.
Frank said, that withoutbodybuilding, he never would
have been the guy that he was inacting.
Uh, but you know, the politicianside, it's one of those things
where he did have a lot of goodhealth initiatives as well for
kids at the time when he was inthere.
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Um he's done stuff in the pastfor uh uh, you know, uh folks
that are maybe lower income,things along those lines.
So you got to give it to him onnumber three as well when it
comes to being a politician.
SPEAKER_04 (14:13):
Yeah, I got you on that one.
I'm I'm pretty consistent witheveryone here, pretty much, you
know, bodybuilding, acting, andthen politician.
Um, I feel like that's that's afair order, uh, mainly because
bodybuilding is what guy gavehim, I guess, his name to fame,
which led to the acting, whichthen led to the politician.
So yeah, you can't have him getto where he was without the
bodybuilding, I think.
(14:33):
So that's obviously got to benumber one for sure.
But Cole, stay with you.
What are your well uh if I couldtalk tonight, that'd be great.
Uh, what are your three mostpersonal favorite Arnold movies?
SPEAKER_00 (14:46):
All right.
So, number one is my all-timefavorite, Terminator 2.
I think that's probably gonna bea pretty popular pick.
It's uh James Cameron.
I love James Cameron's take onTerminator series.
I think it's a fantastic movieas just a general movie, so I
gotta go T2.
Uh, number two, a lot of peopleare probably gonna hate this,
(15:08):
uh, but I gotta go last actionhero because when I was a kid,
that was one of my favoritemovies of all time.
Uh, I watched it probably 40times in one year.
Uh, and then I think that I meanPredator is one of the coolest
movies ever.
So uh Predator's right there,right behind it.
SPEAKER_03 (15:26):
So okay.
D Frank, what about you?
Well, I I'm kind of surprisedthat Cole pulled Last Action
Hero because that's a greatpull.
Uh, I think it's fantastic.
There's another movie that thatyou know it kind of ages me as a
90s baby in the fact that I lovetrue lies.
Uh, I thought that that wasphenomenal.
Um you know, and uh I I thinkhonestly, you know, you guys are
(15:52):
gonna hate this, but uh his turnas kindergarten cop doing a
little comedy was uh wasclassic.
Like uh there's so many linesfrom that movie, it's not a
tuma, that was just so great.
SPEAKER_04 (16:04):
Yeah, that that's you you pulled a good one there
with kindergarten cop.
But Freddie, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (16:10):
Um, probably my favorite is probably uh Conan
the destroyer, because it he waslike so like just awesome in
that with like Will Chamberlainand people didn't know Andre the
Giant actually played themonster in that.
Um, so I I love him in that.
Um I thought it was just reallygreat.
(16:30):
Um, and I'd probably sayPredator was number two.
And then Terminator One, I loveTerminator two, but Terminator
One is probably my thirdfavorite with him because that
whole frame, though, was in the80s, and that was like before we
knew 90s Arnold, right?
Like those movies kind of madehim.
So I really like to be likenostalgic with that, but those
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three are are definitely myfavorites.
SPEAKER_02 (16:54):
I gotcha, Mister.
What about you?
I tell you what, man, those areall good and great picks, man.
But I might have to, you know,one of mine is Total Recall,
man.
I can watch that movie a lot andmore and more.
Uh Total Recall, The Runny Man.
Uh love that one.
Um, and and then I'm probablygonna have to go with either um
(17:19):
probably Predator, man.
You know, Predator was you knowsaying what was a it was a
classic, you know, that firstone, you know, with all them
guys in there, man, all them,you know, former wrestlers that
was in there, man.
So those are my man.
SPEAKER_04 (17:34):
And you can't, you know, Commando was a good one
too, but yeah, there there's somany that it's tough to narrow
down three for me.
Uh T2 for sure.
Um, just that the wholeTerminator series is great.
And you know, plus having MarkChristopher Lawrence on the show
way back when we basically firstgot started, you know, T2 is
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definitely uh up there for me.
Um I gotta go Predator for mynumber two.
And it's such a tough pick fornumber three.
So since we're around theholidays, I'm gonna go with
Jingle all the way.
Uh just to add a little bit ofcomedy.
(18:16):
And you know, it's close to theholidays.
We're in November, so we'regonna get we're gonna throw a
little holiday favorite in thereall the way.
And uh just with the but it wasclose one for with kindergarten
cop for me, just because of thelines, you know, put that googie
down, you know, like that'syou've got those with jingle all
the way.
You can always have all thoseone-liners in there, so that's
that's it for me uh with thosethree for sure.
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Uh Mr.
Uh, have you ever seen Arnoldand Conan in the yeah, in the
Conan movies?
Uh that would be Conan theBarbarian and Conan the
Destroyer.
If so, what are your thoughts onthese movies?
SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
You know what?
I mean, I'll I like both ofthem.
You know, I but I'll tell youanother one was Red Sonia.
I don't know if you guysremember remember that one that
was in, but that was was thatwas a good one, man.
Um, but uh but Conan theBarbarian, the first one, I you
know, I love that one.
I can I can watch that one allday long.
Uh you know, it really, you knowwhat I'm saying?
(19:18):
It's show off how buffed he wasin those movies, man.
But that one though, but Conanthe Barbarian, but I also like
Red Sonia.
That was another one they wasthere.
It was like a spin-off from theum Conan Barbarian, Conan
Destruction.
SPEAKER_04 (19:33):
I gotcha.
Freddy, what about you?
SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
Oh, yeah, no, I love both Conan's.
Um, uh Conan the Barbarian wasgreat.
I mean, I love James Earl Jones.
Uh, he had a great voice aswell, like right there with Sam
Elliott, like the voice of Godtype of deal.
Um, really like that.
Um, the Snake King thing, yeah,I mean, it is what it is.
I mean, it was pretty cheesywhen they had like James Earl
Jones transform into the snake,it was very cheesy.
You could tell it was very 1982.
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Conan the destroyer, though, Ireally like that.
Like I talked about like Andrethe Giant was in that, Will
Chamberlain, Grace Jones, agreat cast.
The one thing I'll say, and ifpeople don't know, like you can
look this up.
So when they were Mook in thatmovie, and sorry, it's gonna get
just off topic for a second, butArnold Wilt, Wilt was in his
50s, he had Arnold, then you hadlike prime Andre the Giant, WWF.
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And it's quoted that Arnold saidthat he was the weakest out of
the three of them, but he saidWilt Chamberlain was the
strongest human being he's ever,ever weightlifted with.
Um, and there was always storiesabout that, but he said Will
Chamberlain, pound for pound, isprobably the strongest person
he's ever he's ever seen inweightlifting.
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He was even stronger than Andrethe Giant, who was, you know,
who can move cars.
I mean, because he was so big.
But he said Will Chamberlain'spure strength.
I think he talked about himbenching like 500 pounds in his
50s.
Um, you know, talked about justhow freakish of an athlete,
which we talked about on the oneshow, about the greatest
athletes of all time, about WillChamberlain.
(21:02):
So, yeah, you can looked it up.
Arnold, uh, Arnold talked aboutthat.
He said Will Chamberlain wasfreakishly strong.
But yeah, I love both Conans.
Uh, it's definitely reallygreat.
And probably the best one isprobably in the destroyer when
they're going through thewaterfall to go into the cat the
thing.
And the guy's like, my brothers,cousins, uncles, sisters,
nephews, neighbors said thatthere's a secret passageway
(21:26):
through here.
And then he like keeps repeatingit, but he keeps messing it up.
And he's like, My neighbor'scousins, brothers, sisters,
dad's girlfriend, and GraceJones just started screaming at
him and like, who even cares?
Like, who cares about yourbrothers, cousins, sisters,
nephews, girlfriends, you know,whatever.
So I always just found superhumor in that, but love both
conans.
Gotcha.
D Frank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (21:48):
Yeah, so uh I prefer Arnold Schwarzenegger when he
actually could speak a littlebit of English.
Uh well, I think the Conanmovies are good.
I think they're a little loweron the totem pole for me.
Uh, and Fiddy, I don't thinkyou're technically allowed to
say Wilt Chamberlain and Poundfor Pound in the same sentence.
SPEAKER_04 (22:09):
That's that's facts for sure.
Cool.
What about you with thesemovies?
SPEAKER_00 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm kind of with D Frank on those.
Uh I haven't I've watched thosemovies a few times, but it's
been a long time since I've gonethrough them.
Uh, I will say they're bothperfectly like mythical, muscly
mayhem movies, so it's it's funin that way.
Uh one of the best scenes iswhen he's getting whipped around
in a circle when he's fighting.
It's just such a funny scene.
(22:38):
He's like, oh, it's just it'sbright.
Yeah, those movies arefantastic.
They're just not like top of myuh top of my list.
SPEAKER_04 (22:46):
Yeah, they're great.
Um, again, not top of my listlike you there, Cole, but yeah,
there's a lot of hidden comedyin those movies, too, as well.
Little lines that if you're notpaying attention, you'll miss
them.
Like what Cole was saying withspinning around and the
brothers, sisters, mothers,cousins, daughters twice remote,
you know, whatever.
Yeah, it was, you know, justthat whole thing with that.
(23:07):
Like if you're not payingattention, like you you'd miss a
lot of it.
And I think that's what makesit, you know, it's up there, but
it's yeah, it's it's not in mytop five, even for me, for
Arnold.
Um, but Cole, Arnold changed thegame in bodybuilding and in
weightlifting.
And I know you you're not toofamiliar because you came in
(23:29):
when he was, you know, doingmovies.
Uh, do you think there will everbe someone like him again in
bodybuilding, though?
I mean, we have the Arnoldclassic and everything like
that.
Now there's a whole competitionbuilt around him.
Do you think that'll ever happenagain?
SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
No, I I don't think it's really if it hasn't
happened yet, I don't think it'sgonna happen again, right?
Uh it's just what he's like oneof those guys that kind of he
was above what his genre was ina lot of ways.
I don't know.
I don't really know the historyas to why he became that way.
I know that he had the physiqueand all of that, but it's kind
(24:04):
of a crazy thing for him to hitthat superstar status as a a
weightlifter.
Um, you know, I just uh I don'treally know the history behind
it.
If anybody actually knows that,it would be pretty interesting
to hear.
SPEAKER_04 (24:15):
It's um it's it's it's a lot from where he where
he grew up.
I mean, weightlifting was kindof all he had.
Um, and then it was a dream ofhis to make it to America to be
a professional bodybuilder.
Um, and if anybody has ever seenany of Bill Burr's stand-ups, he
(24:37):
does a whole skit on ArnoldSchwarzenegger and like his
goals and just how ridiculousthey sounded uh to the normal
person that didn't have hismindset, like, oh, I'm gonna
move to America and I'm gonnabecome a famous bodybuilder, and
he does, and then he's like, Oh,I'm gonna start acting and start
doing movies with kids andkindergarten cop and all this,
(24:59):
and all this other stuff.
And then he was like, Oh, andthen I'm gonna marry a Kennedy,
and everyone's like, You are outof your mind, and he does that,
and then now he's a and then hewas a politician.
So it's just he just keepsraising the board.
It's just his mindset that hehad growing up, and bodybuilding
was kind of what it was.
He just always liked liftingweights because it got him away
from everything in uh where hewas growing up.
(25:20):
And for the life of me, I can'tthink of the country where he
grew up right there.
Austria, thank you.
Yep, thank you.
I could not for the life of me,the the name just gone.
Uh, but yeah, that's just wherehe grew up.
That was all he had to get himaway from there, um, and to
America, which is ultimatelywhere he wanted to be.
Um, why do I know this uselessknowledge?
(25:42):
I don't know.
I'm full of it.
Um, I know a bunch of uselessfacts that get me nowhere um in
life right now.
Uh, but that's one of them.
Um, but yeah, that's kind of thethe story there, Cole to answer
that question for you.
Um and where I heard that, Ihave no idea.
Um, so take that with a grain ofsalt, if you will.
But that's that's just what I'veI've heard through the grapevine
(26:04):
and everything like that.
But DeFrank, let's talk aboutwhat about you?
SPEAKER_03 (26:08):
Yeah, so I don't think that you could have uh an
Arnold Schul Schwarzeneggerstory per se anymore.
When he was coming up in thelate 70s and early 80s, the 80s
were just a decade of excess.
And so, you know, the whole ideaof steroids, you know, being
common, you know, if you thinkof the NFLers that were involved
with it, if you think of theprofessional wrestlers, and by
(26:30):
the way, look at them now,they're a little worse for wear
uh because of it.
The 80s weren't real kind to alot of those folks, um, you
know, later on.
And then of course in the 90s,uh, you know, you had Barry
Bonds and Mark McGuire.
And then all of a sudden therecame kind of a negative
connotation to that enormousjacked action hero kind of
situation.
If you think about the actionheroes today, you know, just
(26:53):
look at the running man in 1987when when Schwarzenegger did it,
he was ripped out of his mind.
Now you've got Glenn Powell, whoI mean, dude's fit, but he's not
jacked like that.
That sort of epitomized the 80swas that enormous built, you did
the Stallone show, right?
You know, that whole kind of ageof excess.
I don't think it you're notgonna have that again.
SPEAKER_04 (27:14):
No, it it was a different time where people
wanted to be uh, for lack of abetter term, I mean using this
term a lot today, and it's yokedout of their mind.
You know what I mean?
Like just absolute monsters ofmen in the 80s and like the
early 90s and that.
So, like that was the thing.
Now it's more of this tonedjacked, if you will, like, but
(27:37):
like these MMA, this mixedmartial arts that's coming about
where you don't need to be 300pounds of pure muscle.
You could be like a conMcGregor, 135, and still kick
the shit out of everybody thatcomes across your path.
You know what I mean?
And it you're still tough andyou're still strong in your own
right.
Um, so I don't to to answer thequestion quickly, I don't think
(27:57):
that we'll ever be anybody kindof like, oh, if it hasn't
happened yet, it's not gonnahappen.
Um, at least in our lifetimes,um, that we'll we'll see here.
Uh, but Fitty, what about you?
What are you what are yourthoughts?
SPEAKER_01 (28:09):
No, I think those are those are definitely valid
points.
Yeah, and I don't think it'llever happen again.
Because the thing is, like,there's too many other sports
now that are popular, there'smainstream social media, right?
So it's also changed the game,like in that regard.
The guy thing, like Arnold grewup, people were using rotary
phones, right?
And writing letters.
Like, there's no computers, nothis, no that.
(28:30):
But he, you know, everybody knewwho he was, like coming up.
And I think the other thing isas well, like you have to
realize um if if somebody likeJay Cutler didn't do it, or um
Ronnie Coleman couldn't do whatwhat Arnold did and they were
close, but they couldn't do it,then no one's overtaking Ronnie
Coleman or Jay Cutler, let aloneovertaken you know, Arnold
(28:53):
Schwarzenegger.
Because I don't think peoplealso like to what you guys were
saying, like, don't admire a300-pound super jacked guy now.
You look at him, you're like,ah, look at this guy.
Like, he's probably on steroids.
Like to Dave's point.
Like, you look at a guy who'slike Tom Brady, and you're like,
Well, I want to be that guy whenI'm 47 years old and be like
that trim and that in shape.
I don't think just don't thinkpeople admire like you being
(29:16):
super jacked like like he was orIvan Drago was, you know what I
mean?
Like in Rocky IV, um, with DolphLundgren.
So I just think the times havechanged, but yeah, I don't think
there'll ever be another him inweightlifting.
SPEAKER_04 (29:28):
Yeah, for sure.
Mr.
What about you?
SPEAKER_02 (29:31):
Yeah, you know, I I you know I agree with all of you
guys.
I think the thing is it's just adifferent time period, different
mindset across the board.
You know, you just look at itfrom the from the 60s to the
80s.
Um, it was just a different timeperiod.
I mean, during that time period,that's what the guys was doing,
trying to get as big aspossible.
You know, trying to get as bigas possible.
(29:53):
Uh, and you know, like I don'tknow, he, you know, he came over
here to America from a differentcountry and and his outlet was
waste.
And he was able to, you know,put himself in a good position
where somebody saw him andwanted to, you know what I'm
saying, see where they can gowith him.
And, you know, and that's gonnabe rare.
You know, you're not gonna findtoo many, you're not gonna find
(30:15):
too many guys like that now.
You know, like 50 said, youknow, you know, plus it's
there's so many, there's just somany different avenues uh
getting your fix, you know,whatever, you know, whatever
that might be, you know,everybody, you know, not
lifting.
I mean, like 50 said, there's alot of different activities, a
lot of different games.
You know, I think the timeperiod is just it's just
(30:36):
different, you know.
Like I you know, I used to watchthe the the weights um all the
time in them early 80s and 90sand looking at Sean Ray,
Coleman.
Um, I mean, all them guys, youknow, we're talking about guys
who are just Jack, Jack.
You know, looking at the muscle,the muscle magazines, and it's
just a this is just differentnow.
You know, guys have too manymore, you know, it's just too
(30:58):
many more opportunities to doother things.
And I just don't think a lot ofpeople is as serious like that,
you know, how he was.
You know, it was it was his wayout of his situation.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
Yeah, you're you're not wrong with that there.
I I know one guy like that now,and we've had him on the show,
and that's Andrew the DestinLegend Mitchell.
He is an IFB power lifting pro.
Um, he's placed in a couple ofevents and the the biggest dude
next to James Harrison that I'veseen in person in my life.
Um like he he just lost myheadphones there.
(31:32):
Uh he is jacked for I mean,obviously there's a reason now
because he's an IFB pro, but uhat the time when I met him, I
was I was managing an AnytimeFitness, and he was the the
district manager at at the time.
And just looking at him andbeing where I was at like 175
pounds at six foot five.
So uh like not that big of adude just looking at him like,
(31:55):
dude, you got them all, like yougot all the muscles.
Like, why are you like why areyou still here?
Like you got them all.
Like, I I don't I can I havesome because uh like but yeah,
like it, but it's just adifferent mindset of a person
like there's one person that Iknow, and greatest dude in the
world.
Don't don't get me wrong withthat, like uh Drew Mitchell.
Uh I know he listens to the showa lot.
(32:15):
Uh thanks for the support andeverything like that, too.
But yeah, biggest dude uh thatI've seen in person um next to
James Harrison.
And you know, I I don't know.
Were you there, Penny, for thecharity basketball game with the
Steelers when James Harrison wasthere?
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (32:30):
Yeah, Charlie Bouch walked right past me in the uh
in the in the train when I wasin the training room talking to
T Mike.
Charlie Bouch just walked outthe back door.
So yeah, I was there for him.
SPEAKER_04 (32:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Um, it was yeah, seeing him andyou know, playing against him,
that was the one game that I youknow I decided to to play
basketball.
And I'm the worst basketballplayer in the world.
Yeah, and just seeing Harrisonthere and like, dude, your your
bicep is the size of my torso.
Like, why are you this big?
Like, you know, so like there'sthe that mindset with people.
(33:01):
Um and it's it's changedcompletely.
Like, because yeah, who whowouldn't want to be Tom Brady in
their 40s right now?
I mean, don't like to do it asan athlete because he's that
good, but he's a good lookingdude for 40s, you know what I
mean?
Like that is what it is, andthat's the new standard, I
would, I would say.
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
I feel like there are some some jack dudes.
I mean, there's like The Rock,Melcena.
I don't know.
Do they care there?
I guess they're not as big asmaybe Schwarzenegger was, but
they're not as big, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (33:28):
As Schwarzenegger was in his in his prime with
weightlifting, they're they'renot even close to to where he
was.
SPEAKER_02 (33:35):
And you know, and the thing with the with the
whole body thing, like I mean,that's that was their life.
Like, that was their full-timejob.
Their body's all they did.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, lifting and competing.
And you know, you just don'thave, you know, I think we just
had a different time periodwhere uh people, you know, and
then plus number nine thatthough, but just look, you know,
(33:57):
at this with all the informationwe have to look at and access,
you look at and see how how manyof these bodybuilders from the
70s and 80s and even early 90s,look at how the the toll it took
on their body.
You know, look at them rightnow, especially coming, man.
That's I was every time I seethem, man.
I just want to, you know, it'sjust sad.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (34:18):
It is, yeah.
The steroids took a big toll onon their bodies back then now,
uh uh that they didn't think wasgonna happen.
But you know, such is life, uhit is.
But we'll we'll move on from theweightlifting here, mister.
And uh what do you think?
Is the movie that Arnold playedis the best role ever and his
most well known for.
(34:43):
We asked tough questions here.
Yeah, we asked the toughquestion here.
SPEAKER_02 (34:48):
Yeah, I think that I think that that Predator, you
know what I'm saying, set himoff, man.
Early know early on.
Predator and Commando.
I think when those two moviescame out when he played those
two movies, man, you know,movies just started coming in
left and right.
You know, Commando and Predator.
SPEAKER_04 (35:06):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
I think his best role he probably ever played.
I'm gonna say it's probablyTerminator 2, because there's
not too many sequels to moviesthat have that have been said to
be better than the original.
You could argue maybe Top Gun,The Godfather, and maybe
Terminator.
But I think Arnold, like the wayhe flipped him his character
(35:35):
from one to two, um, you know,was was pretty great.
So I think his best acting moviehe's ever done is Terminator 2.
SPEAKER_04 (35:44):
I gotcha.
Be frank.
SPEAKER_03 (35:47):
Yeah, so you you know, I think Terminator's
probably the role that made himthe most popular, but I go back
to my earlier comment.
Um, you know, when he did TrueLies, his role was Harry Tasker,
where he was kind of the secretagent and then uh, you know, a
family man by day.
It really showed all of hisaction as well as his, you know,
kind of comedic chops as well.
(36:08):
Uh, you know, which that's kindof what he's known for, right?
He's been known for doing alittle bit of everything.
Um, he did the action and he didthe comedy there.
It's Harry Tasker in Two Lives.
Okay.
Cole.
SPEAKER_00 (36:20):
Yeah, uh I mean, I think personally, I think his
most well-known role is probablyTerminator, right?
Everybody does the I'll be Bach,you know.
Uh my favorite, obviously, iswhen he does comedy stuff as
well.
Um, I think that his blend andhis ability to be able to make
fun of himself is fantastic.
So uh my favorite role isobviously uh him and last action
(36:42):
hero for that reason.
I just it's just such a funmovie, making fun of like 90s
action movies, making fun ofhimself.
Like it's just and the fact thathe had a rivalry with uh uh
Sylvester Stall, like it's justsuch a a fun film.
So yeah, that's my favorite.
SPEAKER_04 (36:57):
Yeah, that for me, um I I I gotta say Terminator,
Terminator 2.
Yeah.
I I I I lean one because of thethe I'll be back and everyone
knowing that line.
Uh, but kind of like what Fittywas saying, the flip.
I mean, you can argue theexpendables uh for some of the
(37:18):
newer stuff that a lot of peopleknow for, and just how long that
series went with theexpendables, um, and having
sequel after sequel after sequeluh with that one.
But I I'd have to say that theTerminators uh for me would be
what he's most well known for.
Everyone knows that one, andevery everyone quotes those
(37:41):
movies too to an extent.
And yeah, I think I gotta goTerminator.
But Cole, what would be hisworst movie in your opinion?
SPEAKER_00 (37:50):
Oh man, that's hard.
I don't um I mean there'sthere's some rough ones out
there, right?
Like I'm I'm thinking of uh someof his later stuff.
Like uh I I saw a movie, I thinkit was called The Sixth Day,
which was mediocre, it wasn'tgreat, but it was like whatever.
(38:11):
I think just like at a certainpoint when you kind of hit those
2000s, uh it it took a littlebit of a dive, I think, with a
lot of actors that are based offof their looks.
Um, you know, and it's notreally his acting chops per se.
Like he's a great, he's a funactor, but he's not like a great
actor by any means.
But I think it's uh probably thelatter stuff, the latter stuff
that he did.
(38:32):
Um, younger-wise, I mean, Conanis ridiculous, and he's not
great in Codan.
It's just such a fun movie,though.
So I don't know.
Yeah, probably the latter stuff,like the sixth day.
I didn't really enjoy that.
SPEAKER_04 (38:44):
I gotcha.
D.
Frank, I saw you waving yourarms up, so like you have one in
mind that's obvious.
What do we got?
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
There's only one answer to this question, Mike,
and and I'm sorry if I'm gonnatake this from everybody else,
but his turn is Mr.
Freeze and Batman and Robinmight be the worst movie in
history.
Um, it's it it it set the Batmanseries back uh a decade and took
a Christopher Nolan uh um youknow remake in order to make it
(39:11):
happen.
It's Batman and Robin.
His Mr.
Freeze was awful.
You're not wrong on that.
SPEAKER_04 (39:18):
What about Freddie?
What about you?
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
I'm gonna say because like I'm gonna I don't
know if many people have seenthis, but it's called End of
Days.
And the thing is, like, Iactually like I like those let
me say this the right way.
I don't like demonic movies likeThe Exorcist, but I like like
(39:42):
movies like End of Days, likesomeone's possessed, and you
have a good guy fighting a badguy, whatever, whatever.
It's stuff that's not real,right?
Like fallen with DenzelWashington, same thing.
So I like I like end of days,but he is not an end of days
actor, like fighting the devilon earth who's trying to have
the antichrist born.
You know, it's just not his jam,right?
(40:05):
Like, I mean, Gabriel Burns init, Kevin Polak's in it, but
you're getting a lot of likedemonic possession, cult stuff,
the Catholic Church.
Like, it's very far-fetched, youknow, and he's like a man who
lost his faith.
It's just not his jam.
It's just not his jam in that,and I just don't think he fit
the part.
I think he probably played abetter Mr.
Freeze in this in the sixth daythan he did in uh than he did in
(40:29):
end of days, like fighting thedevil on earth.
So I gotta go end of days, eventhough I do like the movie, is
it was a bad acting job by him.
SPEAKER_02 (40:36):
I got you, Mr.
What about you?
Man, I tell you what, man.
You uh you thought about BatmanRobin?
Oh my gosh, that just made methink about and um you're right.
I mean, that's that's one I waslike, god, he could have passed
that one up.
Um but that one, I mean, theBatman Robin, the inner days,
(40:58):
and then another one is uh, Ithink it's called um I think
it's called Maggie, or it'ssomething he had a daughter
who's who's uh have a virus orsomething, like in the world
type deal.
You know, so I can't think ofthe name of the movie, but that
one was was kind of um, youknow, it was like okay, you
know, you know, he he'ssearching, or you know, he's
(41:19):
just trying to fill time.
SPEAKER_04 (41:22):
But I think if we're if we're forgetting the names of
the movies, like yeah, that'sdefinitely gotta be up there as
one of the worst.
SPEAKER_02 (41:29):
If you can't even remember the name of the movie,
like yeah, I was like, um, I waslike, oh my gosh, yeah, it was
pretty, yeah.
But in the days, and I and youknow what?
And I might have watched In theDays maybe once, and I don't
think I've watched watched, Idon't think I ever watched that
whole movie.
SPEAKER_04 (41:47):
I I've never watched it, so um that that would put it
up there for me because I'venever watched it, but uh D
Frank, you know, with the BatmanRob, Mr.
Freeze, I forgot all about that.
Um, and I'm a huge Batman fan,um, for sure.
Um that's called RepressedMemories, yeah.
(42:07):
Yeah, because that just sparkedthat back up for me.
Now I'm thinking of the linesfrom it, and they're coming back
to me after you mentioned it,and it's just awful.
It's it was a terrible actingjob for that, but yeah, thank
God they saved that.
SPEAKER_01 (42:20):
Wasn't it the one with George Clooney?
SPEAKER_04 (42:23):
Yeah, that was Clooney.
SPEAKER_01 (42:24):
George George Clooney and uh Jim Carrey.
Jim Carrey is the ruler.
Um was Uma Thurman in that onetoo, or she in the other one.
SPEAKER_03 (42:35):
The only thing from that entire movie that that
partially redeemed it was thesoundtrack was fair at best.
Oh, seal.
Yeah, the seal.
SPEAKER_04 (42:43):
Yeah, the soundtrack was awesome for that one, but
the acting by Arnold was just ohyeah, it was terrible.
SPEAKER_01 (42:50):
Oh, and who played Robin?
What was his name?
Chris Chris O'Donnell.
SPEAKER_04 (42:55):
O'Donnell, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:56):
So in reality, the cast is actually pretty good if
you think about it.
SPEAKER_04 (43:01):
Oh, the casting's great.
SPEAKER_01 (43:03):
The acting, like, because I mean you have like
George Clooney, you haveSchwarzenegger of Uma Thurman,
you know, Chris O'Donnell, JimCarrey.
Like, it's not a bad cast if youreally think about it, but yeah,
the acting was pretty, but theacting was bad.
Acting was terrible.
SPEAKER_02 (43:18):
I think they I think they was all high when they when
they made that movie.
Every single last one of themwas high.
SPEAKER_04 (43:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll back that.
Yeah, a thousand percent.
Absolutely on that one.
Uh Mister.
Uh, what does where does Arnoldrank amongst uh the best overall
actors of all time, in youropinion?
SPEAKER_02 (43:42):
Top 100.
Yeah.
Top 100.
SPEAKER_04 (43:47):
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (43:52):
I mean, I I think people know my top 10.
We've talked about that before.
He's definitely not top 20.
I would say because of hisrange, like I think his range is
good.
Like, he's done comedy, he's onaction, the devil movie, Conan.
You know, he did the movie.
Um uh it was like his firstmovie.
(44:14):
Um whatever, and he was theGreek god.
Um, that one, like from the late60s, early 70s.
Um not Adonis.
Um, anyways, whatever.
He did that one.
So he has a lot of range.
I don't know.
I would probably put him likemid-30s, like 35, 36 actor of
(44:36):
greatest actor of all time.
Because I mean, it's really hardto crack a top 20 level top 10.
So I put him like 35 because ofhis range.
SPEAKER_04 (44:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair.
He's like 40 to 50 for me.
Um on my list.
Yeah, he's top 50.
I'll give him that, but yeah,I'm not going any any higher
than 40 for sure.
Uh D Frank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean, I think top 50 just simply because
of his cultural relevance allthe way around.
Uh, his acting chops, while notgreat, are memorable.
And anybody that can make themovie Junior uh where he plays a
pregnant guy and get away withit, you know, you gotta have in
the top 50.
Absolutely.
Cole, what about you?
SPEAKER_00 (45:17):
Yeah, I think uh top 50, but he is my favorite uh
action star.
He's my favorite action actor ofall time.
So um, you know, me personally,I put him in my top 20 and my
own personal favorite actors,but I think like you guys have
been saying, his cultural revrelevance is super important and
his ability to you know playcomedy and action, it's gotta
(45:40):
put him pretty high up thereoverall.
SPEAKER_04 (45:43):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, yeah, top 50 is is fair,
we'll we'll say.
Um mainly, but mainly becauseMr.
Free sent him back like 25spots, uh for sure.
Um, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:58):
Arnold, the movie, the movie I was talking about is
Hercules in New York, 1970.
Yeah, it's like when he couldbarely, barely speak English.
Um, and he came over, andthere's a scene in that he's
like throwing the discus, helike takes his shirt off, and
it's like when you're talkingabout Arnold 55 years ago, so
he's like 23 years old, he'slike the hugest he ever was.
(46:19):
He like takes his shirt off andhe like then he like throws a
discus and the guy's just likelooking at it and he's like his
like mouth is like hanging up.
He throws it like I don't know,it's like I mean he's Hercules,
he threw it like 500 yards orsomething like that in the
movie.
Um, but yeah, the Hercules inNew York.
If you guys have never seen it,please watch it, it's hilarious.
SPEAKER_04 (46:39):
Yeah, that yeah, I think those are all fair
rankings for sure.
Uh, but Cole, we're gonna roundout the show with this one here.
Uh, do you think Arnold orStallone was a bigger movie icon
in the 80s and 90s?
Not considering the 2000s or thepresent day, just the 80s or the
90s.
SPEAKER_00 (46:59):
I mean, I've I've already said when we did the
Stallone show, I already saidSchwarzenegger was bigger.
Um yeah, we thought about that.
SPEAKER_04 (47:07):
Yeah, we fought about that.
SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
Uh-huh.
But he is.
I mean, most known worldwide,it's gonna be Schwarzenegger
over Stallone all day.
And I love Stallone, like I loveRocky, love those movies, but
when you look at like what theydid throughout their career
movies, it's gotta be it's gottabe Schwarzenegger.
SPEAKER_04 (47:26):
Okay, DeFrank, what about you?
SPEAKER_03 (47:28):
Uh yeah, I don't know.
I think um, you know, from anacting standpoint, I'm gonna go
Stallone only because I feellike Rocky has more cultural
relevance than some of thescience fiction movies that
Arnold's done.
But I think if you look at thetotal breadth of what uh uh
Arnold's done as an actor, as uha politician, and and
(47:49):
altogether, I you you know it'sreally, really, really tough.
As an actor, though, Stallone.
SPEAKER_04 (47:53):
Stallone.
All right, Pitty, I think I knowwhere you're going with this.
SPEAKER_01 (47:57):
Well, you know what?
If we're looking at the 80s and90s, like here's the thing Rocky
I and Rocky II were in the 70s.
So yours hawking Rocky III,four, and five, and then you're
getting the like with Stallone,like, I mean, a bunch of things,
but like you think of likeDemolition Man, you think of
like Assassins with AntonioBanderas, you think of like
Cliffhanger, you think of likeDaylight, you know, so you start
(48:21):
thinking about that.
Like, I mean, I think Stopper MyMom Will Shoot might have been
in the 90s as well.
You know, so you're thinking ofthat, and then the and then uh
the Rambos, right?
That's probably what Stallonewas best known for, probably in
that time, more than Rocky III,four, and five, because they
kind of got stupid at variouspoints, even though I love
(48:41):
Rocky.
But you had like Arnold doinglike this plethora of different
genres where like Stallone justeither played like an actor or a
guy that was getting blown upand then coming back and just
like whooping your ass.
So, like, I don't know, Arnoldhad like a different range.
So, you know me.
I mean, I love SylvesterStallone.
That is my home home guy tillthe I die.
(49:03):
Like that I love him to death.
Um, but I would probably sayArnold was more well known as an
actor in the 80s and 90s becausehe played more diverse roles,
and also Stallone, some ofStallone's stuff was pretty
far-fetched.
Like, if anyone from animeremembers Rambo III when he got
shot in the side and he blew ahole through his side to like
cauterized a wound.
(49:25):
I mean, no one does that, right?
Like, like no one, no one blowsa hole up in their side to like
to cauterize cauterize a wound.
Um, you know, and the movieDaylight was very, very
far-fetched when he like blew ahole in the bottom of the the
river to come up through NewYork City.
And then, like, um, and thenlike in the movie Cliffhanger,
(49:45):
like he's like shooting someonewith a uh with a gun underneath
the ice, and he came out, nohypothermia, hair is completely
slicked back, like so.
He like did some like veryfar-fetched stuff where Arnold
did more realistic stuff.
So I'll give Arnold a nod.
It was long-winded, but youknow, we're on the Ride Home
Rants podcast, and I'm just kindof ranting about bad Stallone
movies.
SPEAKER_04 (50:05):
Got you, Mister.
SPEAKER_02 (50:06):
What about you?
Oh man, just give me thepredator, man.
Give me the predator, I'll takethe predator.
Uh that goddamn Junior, though,man, that kind of just messed it
up for me for a long time whenhe did Junior.
You know, yeah, it it it's youain't see Rambo doing that
stuff, though.
He don't got no movies likethat, huh?
(50:30):
No.
Mr.
SPEAKER_03 (50:32):
You're you're forgetting about an excellent uh
film from Stallone, Tango andCash.
SPEAKER_02 (50:38):
Oh my gosh, yes, Tango and Cash was absolutely
that was good.
That was a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
That was a game for sure.
Bono, here's another one.
I just thought about this too.
I'm pretty sure someone can factcheck me on this, but The
Predator could be the only moviein the history of cinema that
had two future governors of theUnited States in it, Jesse the
Body Ventura and ArnoldSchwarzenegger.
And I would want somebody tochallenge me on that one.
SPEAKER_04 (51:07):
That's a good point.
Yeah, we're we're gonna have tolook this up off the air and
figure this out for you.
Um I'm not sure uh for that one.
Uh for me.
I made a lot of good points forfor Arnold in that one, but I
still gotta give the nod toStallone uh for that one.
(51:27):
Um mainly, you know, the Rambosand the uh the Rockies that he
was, just because those moviesset up the Creed series in the
present day and everything likethat, too, as well, with the
Rockies.
So it's moved other actors on umin their careers and everything
like that with Michael B.
Jordan playing Creed.
(51:48):
Um, but yeah, I gotta give a nodto Stallone, mainly because I
can understand him more in hisearlier stuff than I could
Arnold, uh, with the both oftheir them having pretty thick
accents, uh, for sure.
Um but yeah, for me that thatthat's that's where I'm going
around the this Arnold show withsaying Stallone was better in
(52:10):
the 80s and 90s uh for them, andthat is going to do it for this
week's episode of the Ride HomeBrands Podcast.
I want to thank all of myguests, Mr.
Cole, D.
Frank, and Freddy, for joiningthe show, getting to talk all
things Arnold Schwarzenegger forthis one.
It was a lot of fun, uh, a lotof nostalgia with some older
movies and everything like that.
And as always, if you enjoyedthe show, be a friend, tell a
(52:33):
friend.
If you didn't, tell themanyways, because they might like
it just because you didn't.
That's gonna do it for me, and Iwill see y'all next week.
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As Director of The Men’s Clinic at UCLA, Dr. Jesse Mills has spent his career helping men understand their bodies, their hormones, and their health. Now he’s bringing that expertise to The Male Room — a podcast where data-driven medicine meets common sense. Each episode separates fact from hype, science from snake oil, and gives men the tools to live longer, stronger, and happier lives. With candor, humor, and real-world experience from the exam room and the operating room, Dr. Mills breaks down the latest health headlines, dissects trends, and explains what actually works — and what doesn’t. Smart, straightforward, and entertaining, The Male Room is the show that helps men take charge of their health without the jargon.