May 18, 2025 • 19 mins
What happens when your entire identity is ripped away in one violent moment?
After surviving a brutal school assault and the gut-punch betrayal of a system that denied it ever happened Eleni Anastos lost everything she'd built over 30 years. But what she gained? Was far more powerful.
In this raw and riveting episode, Eleni shares her fall and rise.
From rocking in trauma to rising as a force for truth, she reveals how she turned betrayal into breakthrough and pain into purpose.
💥 How she rewired her identity after institutional gaslighting
 💥 The truth about forgiveness that sets you free
 💥 Why sharing your scars, not your wounds, changes lives
💥 How to stop performing strength and start living it
💥 The choice that separates survivors from the stuck
This is for every woman who's been silenced, shattered, or sidelined and is ready to rise anyway.
🎧 Listen now if you're done letting pain win.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
Rise from the Ashes.
I have an amazing guest with methis morning.
Today, I don't even know whatday it is or night.
Her story of transformation isincredible and she's come from
rags to ruins into finding hertrue purpose, and not just
(00:24):
herself, but so many otherpeople.
This is what rise from theashes is all about your stories,
your version of a reality whereyou've come from, what you've
done and also where you're goingnext.
Eleni anastos is my next guest.
(00:44):
Eleni, it's a pleasure, aprivilege to have you here today
, and I hope I said the nameright.
Please introduce yourself andwhat you do.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, oh, I'm so happy to be here, Baz.
Yes, I am Eleni Anastos and Iam grateful and blessed to.
I work with entrepreneurs andexecutives and I help them
address their BS bust throughthe shit that's holding them
back, because I see so manypeople that want more income or
(01:13):
they want to make more impact,they want to live a more
fulfilling life, but they staystuck and they circle the drain,
and I know you know that well,and it's an honor to help people
achieve goals that previouslythey didn't think was possible
for themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And I love that purpose and mission that you
have.
What many of us, we all have astory.
You weren't always on this path.
A few years ago, there wassomething that happened for you
(01:52):
that changed the trajectorytrajectory of your entire life.
Can you just share with theaudience of what happened until
that, the version of events thathappened?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
yes, yes, well, for many moons I was a special
education teacher in a publicschool setting and absolutely
loved my work.
Loved working with the children, and it still goes back to
helping individuals achievethings they didn't think was
possible for themselves.
Incredibly dedicated, neverreally saw myself doing anything
(02:22):
else until my world turned on adime.
There was an assault in theschool.
I was in the wrong place at thewrong time and was knocked down
and violently kicked repeatedlyby a mob of the teenagers in
the high school and, as weird asthis may sound, I didn't even
(02:43):
take it personally because I didnot know them.
They were not my students, butit was the after effect,
everything that happened beyondthat.
When I'm at home in pain andneck brace and struggling and
dealing with PTSD, it is mybelief that the district staged
(03:04):
a cover-up because they saidthat event never happened.
So, almost overnight, thiswonderful 30-year career that I
had dedicated to children withspecial needs was over.
Life as I knew it no longerexisted.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So many things come to mind here because, firstly,
you didn't judge people.
Secondly, you saw for what itis an opportunity, and I'm going
to paraphrase this very lightlybut essentially it was a
burnout situation for you or aredirect.
(03:42):
Is that correct?
That's correct from what I'mhearing.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah well , when I was stuck in the pain
and literally circling the drainbecause I've always been a
person that just gets fired upabout the future there's always
a next chapter to look forwardto.
Yes, what do we have to lookforward to?
Because for me and my mom wasalways that way, god bless her,
(04:05):
so I know I inherited it fromher If we don't have something
to look forward to, how do youstay excited and motivated about
life, personally orprofessionally?
But I found myself like, okay,my whole identity has shifted.
What was my lifelong career isno longer an option.
Now what?
(04:26):
But I'll never forget themoment.
I'm sitting in my living roomand I was like rocking back and
forth, just freaking out,because I couldn't see what was
next.
I couldn't see a new chapter,and that scared the hell out of
me.
That was like the kick in theass that I needed to say we got
(04:48):
to do something here, we've gotto change.
And that's when I began theslow but powerful journey to my
own reinvention.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I love that, and there's a question that I want
to ask you which is quiteinteresting, and this is a very
good time to think, to injectthis, this what was your lowest
point from?
Was it this bit or was itsomething else compounding on
top of that?
And how did you go from thatbit into the what you'll be
(05:22):
coming and what that journey was?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, I appreciate that question.
It was, in part, not being ableto have something to look
forward to, absolutely, but itwas also constantly coming up
against the betrayal.
People that I trusted, peoplethat I knew for years.
I couldn't get past thebetrayal and then I realized I
(05:48):
have to stop making this aboutme, even though I was the one on
the floor begging and screamingfor my life.
If I focused on what they didto me and I appreciate that you
said, life happens for us, notto us and I'll never forget the
first time I heard that, becauseit really annoyed the hell out
of me.
(06:09):
I'm like what do you mean?
This happened for me.
That because it really annoyedthe hell out of me.
I'm like what do you mean?
This happened for me.
But when I realized that I wasfocusing more on the betrayal
and that was helping to keep mestuck, not being able to see a
next chapter, I went into.
There has to be a lesson inthis.
This is happening for me.
There has to be a lesson inthis.
And what can I learn?
(06:29):
What can I extract from thissituation that's going to help
me moving forward?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
essentially what you're going to start to
question the trajectory of whatwas going on and specific
questions, but they were deeperthan that, because these are
what you're speaking to now.
These are scary questions for alot of people yeah, I mean, it's
a place where others are like,no, not for me, I'm not gonna do
(06:57):
that, and they shy away from it.
But you didn't.
You did what most people,ordinary people, would say no,
I'm, I'm done, thanks, I'm goingto live a quiet life in a nice
deserted island somewhere and bea hermit.
You did the opposite.
(07:18):
And what was that?
And I, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
People just don't want to hurt, people want to
stop the pain and I respect thatand I appreciate that and, lord
knows, I can relate to it onevery level.
But I had to find a purpose forthe pain, like I didn't want to
waste my pain, and that's why Ibelieve without question and I
know you can appreciate this,baz that all of the trials and
(07:44):
tribulations that we go throughand survive can become guides
for other people as theynavigate their journey.
And that's part of what helpedlift me up.
You know what?
I didn't ask for this, I didn'tdeserve it.
It was flipping, miserable,horrible to go through, but I'm
going to use it to help liftsomebody else up, and that
(08:08):
helped me get back up as welland that helped me get back up
as well.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And this is where I love interviewing people like
yourself, because there there'stwo, two things I've noticed
about human beings.
One, the first one we do thingsfor status, for validation, or
to be seen, heard, love worthy,et cetera, et cetera.
There's a long list.
It comes down to one word inthat status.
(08:36):
It's not a word you havejudgment on, it's just, it's the
other thing we do, and there'sa small percentage of people
that are selfless, completelysmall percentage of people that
are selfless completely.
What you did there, despite thenorms, the frustration, the
(09:00):
anger, the betrayal, all ofthese feelings, the through the
psychological concepts, thespiritual concepts, the mental
concepts.
Betrayal is one of the corethings that are the hardest to
get over.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And it?
What if you learn to forgive,which it sounds, I'm assuming, I
don't know, but it sounds as ifyou did.
But you forgave something else,by the sounds of things as well
, and that was yourself.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
absolutely 100%.
And when I finally was able toget to the point first to
forgive those involved, toforgive those that betrayed me,
it was so freeing and I remembersharing it with somebody, a
close friend, and she said howthe hell can you forgive them
(09:54):
for what they did to you?
And I said, now, hold on.
I said forgiving them doesn'tmean I like them.
Forgiving them doesn't meanthey're back in my life.
Forgiving them means they nolonger control me, they don't
have a piece of me anymore, andI just wish more people would
(10:15):
practice forgiveness to freethemselves.
It doesn't mean you got to careabout what happens to the
person that done you wrong, butI don't want to see people stay
in that self-imposed prison, andespecially where yourself is
concerned, whether, oh, I choseto be there or I should have
made a different decision, anynumber of things but I believe
(10:37):
actively every day.
Forgiveness is like a muscle wehave to exercise it for it to
be effective and strong.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's a very difficult wrong word.
Challenging concept for a lotof people.
Challenging concept for a lotof people and myself.
Forgiveness andself-forgiveness is so difficult
to come to and resolute.
This is why I like having theseconversations.
So if you're listening now andyou're like, what the hell are
(11:10):
you on about?
But no idea who's this, firstof all subscribe, share.
Share this message.
It will, I promise you, changesomeone's life.
Secondly, learn from thisinterview.
Get a pen and paper, go back.
I'm sort of Gen X era.
So if you remember the oldrewind VHSs, go and do that.
(11:35):
But in the millennial version,press rewind and go back, listen
to it again and take some notes.
The whole reframe from this isincredible because the stacking
of betrayal not just thephysical element of being
violated, which is what this isa huge violation of self, the
(11:57):
mental recovery, the physicalrecovery.
Most people would class this asa complete failure.
I'm done.
Who did the opposite?
You went.
I'm cray-cray.
Let's go and do it.
I'm going to learn and build orrebuild something better.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yes, 100%.
Rebuild something better?
Yes, 100.
But getting there was liketrying to run through quicksand.
You just it's not.
Nothing was easy about it, infact, I remember the first time
I spoke publicly about theschool assault and then starting
(12:36):
my life over in my 50s and Iwas at a personal development
conference and I shared my storyon stage.
A woman came up to meafterwards and she grabbed my
hands and she said honey, I justdon't understand.
I said what don't youunderstand?
She said you were horriblyvictimized.
I said you understand thatperfectly, and then she stepped
(12:56):
back and she said but nothingabout you says victim.
I said you understand thatperfectly.
And then she stepped back andshe said but nothing about you
says victim.
I said you understand thatperfectly as well, because that
part was my choice.
I could have stayed in thatpity party, poor, pitiful me.
Everybody on the planet has beenvictimized in some way or
another.
(13:16):
But 100%.
It's always going to be ourchoice whether we choose to
remain a victim or not.
And I'm very grateful that Imade the choice to not remain a
victim and I was telling thislady at the conference and I
said they no longer have a pieceof me because I can talk about
(13:39):
it like I am now.
I'm not having an emotionalmeltdown, and that also I want
to caution for anyone thatlistens to this share your scars
, not your wounds.
Please share your scars and notyour wounds.
Take whatever time you need toheal, get the support that feels
right for you and when you'reable to share, you're going to
(14:02):
know because it's not going tohave that emotional electrical
charge that just knocks you out.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And before we end part one, because this is huge,
I love this Can you just explainthe difference from your
perspective, the differencebetween a wound or a scar,
because that's a concept I'maware of, but some listeners may
not be.
I think you're a perfect personand an example in motion of
them.
Differences.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yes, because we all know what a physical wound looks
like.
There could still be blood, itcould still have risked the
chance of infection, and thenthe scar is when the skin has
healed over it, where it's notcausing that kind of pain.
And I feel absolutely the sameemotionally, because I have
(14:58):
cautioned people that have triedto share their stories too soon
.
They were still wounded,because if it rocks your world
emotionally, if it just levelsyou because you had to keep
reliving it, then you are stillwounded, you're still bleeding,
you need to do the inner work onyourself and again, whatever
kind of support that fits you,and then, when you're able to
talk about it because it was anevent in your life, you control
(15:22):
the narrative.
So that's why I really cautionpeople.
It's so important to share yourscars, not your wounds.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
All that's up and thank you very much for sharing
that part of the journey.
I'm looking forward to whatcomes next.
Thank you very much for sharingthat part of the journey.
I'm looking forward to whatcomes next.
Before we transition into stagetwo, episode two or part two,
sorry, not episode two a reallyreally good advice from your own
experience you would leave withthe listeners to allow them to
(15:51):
open up and express theirauthentic truth, whatever that
may be.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yes, their authentic truth, whatever that may be.
Yes and authenticity to me is ahuge key in living your best
life.
And there is so much guilt andshame out there with having been
victimized, whatever it was,from any kind of assault.
So I want people to know thatagain.
(16:15):
It is not your fault, the guiltand the shame and the blame
that people try to put on eachother.
It serves to keep people stuck.
No healing can happen in thatplace and we all know that shame
thrives in secrecy and guilt isI did something wrong, shame,
(16:37):
something's wrong with me, andif you've been hurt or
victimized, you don't deserve tohave somebody put that shame
onto you.
So please know that when youare able to speak your truth,
share your authentic voice, youare going to feel like you just
climbed the biggest mountain.
You will benefit from it, evenif it scares the hell out of you
(16:59):
before you've started hello.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Thank you for sharing that.
That's a very good message.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isrise from your shoes.
Burnout to brilliance.
This was episode one.
Sorry, wrong episode.
I can't even remember now somany.
This is going to be part one oftwo parts with Elena, and I
(17:24):
don't know what I'm going tocall it.
I don't think it's something tomyself.
I'll see you on part two.
Remember, share and subscribe.
You will change someone's life.
But also remember this before Igo You're a solution.
You're not a challenge or aproblem, so be a solution for
yourself.
From myself, I'm Elinor.
I will see you on part two veryshortly.
(17:46):
Take care.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of
Rise from the Ashes.
I have an amazing guest with methis morning.
Today, I don't even know whatday it is or night.
Her story of transformation isincredible and she's come from
rags to ruins into finding hertrue purpose, and not just
(00:24):
herself, but so many otherpeople.
This is what rise from theashes is all about your stories,
your version of a reality whereyou've come from, what you've
done and also where you're goingnext.
Eleni anastos is my next guest.
(00:44):
Eleni, it's a pleasure, aprivilege to have you here today
, and I hope I said the nameright.
Please introduce yourself andwhat you do.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes, oh, I'm so happy to be here, Baz.
Yes, I am Eleni Anastos and Iam grateful and blessed to.
I work with entrepreneurs andexecutives and I help them
address their BS bust throughthe shit that's holding them
back, because I see so manypeople that want more income or
(01:13):
they want to make more impact,they want to live a more
fulfilling life, but they staystuck and they circle the drain,
and I know you know that well,and it's an honor to help people
achieve goals that previouslythey didn't think was possible
for themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
And I love that purpose and mission that you
have.
What many of us, we all have astory.
You weren't always on this path.
A few years ago, there wassomething that happened for you
(01:52):
that changed the trajectorytrajectory of your entire life.
Can you just share with theaudience of what happened until
that, the version of events thathappened?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
yes, yes, well, for many moons I was a special
education teacher in a publicschool setting and absolutely
loved my work.
Loved working with the children, and it still goes back to
helping individuals achievethings they didn't think was
possible for themselves.
Incredibly dedicated, neverreally saw myself doing anything
(02:22):
else until my world turned on adime.
There was an assault in theschool.
I was in the wrong place at thewrong time and was knocked down
and violently kicked repeatedlyby a mob of the teenagers in
the high school and, as weird asthis may sound, I didn't even
(02:43):
take it personally because I didnot know them.
They were not my students, butit was the after effect,
everything that happened beyondthat.
When I'm at home in pain andneck brace and struggling and
dealing with PTSD, it is mybelief that the district staged
(03:04):
a cover-up because they saidthat event never happened.
So, almost overnight, thiswonderful 30-year career that I
had dedicated to children withspecial needs was over.
Life as I knew it no longerexisted.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So many things come to mind here because, firstly,
you didn't judge people.
Secondly, you saw for what itis an opportunity, and I'm going
to paraphrase this very lightlybut essentially it was a
burnout situation for you or aredirect.
(03:42):
Is that correct?
That's correct from what I'mhearing.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah well , when I was stuck in the pain
and literally circling the drainbecause I've always been a
person that just gets fired upabout the future there's always
a next chapter to look forwardto.
Yes, what do we have to lookforward to?
Because for me and my mom wasalways that way, god bless her,
(04:05):
so I know I inherited it fromher If we don't have something
to look forward to, how do youstay excited and motivated about
life, personally orprofessionally?
But I found myself like, okay,my whole identity has shifted.
What was my lifelong career isno longer an option.
Now what?
(04:26):
But I'll never forget themoment.
I'm sitting in my living roomand I was like rocking back and
forth, just freaking out,because I couldn't see what was
next.
I couldn't see a new chapter,and that scared the hell out of
me.
That was like the kick in theass that I needed to say we got
(04:48):
to do something here, we've gotto change.
And that's when I began theslow but powerful journey to my
own reinvention.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I love that, and there's a question that I want
to ask you which is quiteinteresting, and this is a very
good time to think, to injectthis, this what was your lowest
point from?
Was it this bit or was itsomething else compounding on
top of that?
And how did you go from thatbit into the what you'll be
(05:22):
coming and what that journey was?
Speaker 2 (05:25):
No, I appreciate that question.
It was, in part, not being ableto have something to look
forward to, absolutely, but itwas also constantly coming up
against the betrayal.
People that I trusted, peoplethat I knew for years.
I couldn't get past thebetrayal and then I realized I
(05:48):
have to stop making this aboutme, even though I was the one on
the floor begging and screamingfor my life.
If I focused on what they didto me and I appreciate that you
said, life happens for us, notto us and I'll never forget the
first time I heard that, becauseit really annoyed the hell out
of me.
(06:09):
I'm like what do you mean?
This happened for me.
That because it really annoyedthe hell out of me.
I'm like what do you mean?
This happened for me.
But when I realized that I wasfocusing more on the betrayal
and that was helping to keep mestuck, not being able to see a
next chapter, I went into.
There has to be a lesson inthis.
This is happening for me.
There has to be a lesson inthis.
And what can I learn?
(06:29):
What can I extract from thissituation that's going to help
me moving forward?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
essentially what you're going to start to
question the trajectory of whatwas going on and specific
questions, but they were deeperthan that, because these are
what you're speaking to now.
These are scary questions for alot of people yeah, I mean, it's
a place where others are like,no, not for me, I'm not gonna do
(06:57):
that, and they shy away from it.
But you didn't.
You did what most people,ordinary people, would say no,
I'm, I'm done, thanks, I'm goingto live a quiet life in a nice
deserted island somewhere and bea hermit.
You did the opposite.
(07:18):
And what was that?
And I, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
People just don't want to hurt, people want to
stop the pain and I respect thatand I appreciate that and, lord
knows, I can relate to it onevery level.
But I had to find a purpose forthe pain, like I didn't want to
waste my pain, and that's why Ibelieve without question and I
know you can appreciate this,baz that all of the trials and
(07:44):
tribulations that we go throughand survive can become guides
for other people as theynavigate their journey.
And that's part of what helpedlift me up.
You know what?
I didn't ask for this, I didn'tdeserve it.
It was flipping, miserable,horrible to go through, but I'm
going to use it to help liftsomebody else up, and that
(08:08):
helped me get back up as welland that helped me get back up
as well.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And this is where I love interviewing people like
yourself, because there there'stwo, two things I've noticed
about human beings.
One, the first one we do thingsfor status, for validation, or
to be seen, heard, love worthy,et cetera, et cetera.
There's a long list.
It comes down to one word inthat status.
(08:36):
It's not a word you havejudgment on, it's just, it's the
other thing we do, and there'sa small percentage of people
that are selfless, completelysmall percentage of people that
are selfless completely.
What you did there, despite thenorms, the frustration, the
(09:00):
anger, the betrayal, all ofthese feelings, the through the
psychological concepts, thespiritual concepts, the mental
concepts.
Betrayal is one of the corethings that are the hardest to
get over.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And it?
What if you learn to forgive,which it sounds, I'm assuming, I
don't know, but it sounds as ifyou did.
But you forgave something else,by the sounds of things as well
, and that was yourself.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
absolutely 100%.
And when I finally was able toget to the point first to
forgive those involved, toforgive those that betrayed me,
it was so freeing and I remembersharing it with somebody, a
close friend, and she said howthe hell can you forgive them
(09:54):
for what they did to you?
And I said, now, hold on.
I said forgiving them doesn'tmean I like them.
Forgiving them doesn't meanthey're back in my life.
Forgiving them means they nolonger control me, they don't
have a piece of me anymore, andI just wish more people would
(10:15):
practice forgiveness to freethemselves.
It doesn't mean you got to careabout what happens to the
person that done you wrong, butI don't want to see people stay
in that self-imposed prison, andespecially where yourself is
concerned, whether, oh, I choseto be there or I should have
made a different decision, anynumber of things but I believe
(10:37):
actively every day.
Forgiveness is like a muscle wehave to exercise it for it to
be effective and strong.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's a very difficult wrong word.
Challenging concept for a lotof people.
Challenging concept for a lotof people and myself.
Forgiveness andself-forgiveness is so difficult
to come to and resolute.
This is why I like having theseconversations.
So if you're listening now andyou're like, what the hell are
(11:10):
you on about?
But no idea who's this, firstof all subscribe, share.
Share this message.
It will, I promise you, changesomeone's life.
Secondly, learn from thisinterview.
Get a pen and paper, go back.
I'm sort of Gen X era.
So if you remember the oldrewind VHSs, go and do that.
(11:35):
But in the millennial version,press rewind and go back, listen
to it again and take some notes.
The whole reframe from this isincredible because the stacking
of betrayal not just thephysical element of being
violated, which is what this isa huge violation of self, the
(11:57):
mental recovery, the physicalrecovery.
Most people would class this asa complete failure.
I'm done.
Who did the opposite?
You went.
I'm cray-cray.
Let's go and do it.
I'm going to learn and build orrebuild something better.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yes, 100%.
Rebuild something better?
Yes, 100.
But getting there was liketrying to run through quicksand.
You just it's not.
Nothing was easy about it, infact, I remember the first time
I spoke publicly about theschool assault and then starting
(12:36):
my life over in my 50s and Iwas at a personal development
conference and I shared my storyon stage.
A woman came up to meafterwards and she grabbed my
hands and she said honey, I justdon't understand.
I said what don't youunderstand?
She said you were horriblyvictimized.
I said you understand thatperfectly, and then she stepped
(12:56):
back and she said but nothingabout you says victim.
I said you understand thatperfectly.
And then she stepped back andshe said but nothing about you
says victim.
I said you understand thatperfectly as well, because that
part was my choice.
I could have stayed in thatpity party, poor, pitiful me.
Everybody on the planet has beenvictimized in some way or
another.
(13:16):
But 100%.
It's always going to be ourchoice whether we choose to
remain a victim or not.
And I'm very grateful that Imade the choice to not remain a
victim and I was telling thislady at the conference and I
said they no longer have a pieceof me because I can talk about
(13:39):
it like I am now.
I'm not having an emotionalmeltdown, and that also I want
to caution for anyone thatlistens to this share your scars
, not your wounds.
Please share your scars and notyour wounds.
Take whatever time you need toheal, get the support that feels
right for you and when you'reable to share, you're going to
(14:02):
know because it's not going tohave that emotional electrical
charge that just knocks you out.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
And before we end part one, because this is huge,
I love this Can you just explainthe difference from your
perspective, the differencebetween a wound or a scar,
because that's a concept I'maware of, but some listeners may
not be.
I think you're a perfect personand an example in motion of
them.
Differences.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yes, because we all know what a physical wound looks
like.
There could still be blood, itcould still have risked the
chance of infection, and thenthe scar is when the skin has
healed over it, where it's notcausing that kind of pain.
And I feel absolutely the sameemotionally, because I have
(14:58):
cautioned people that have triedto share their stories too soon
.
They were still wounded,because if it rocks your world
emotionally, if it just levelsyou because you had to keep
reliving it, then you are stillwounded, you're still bleeding,
you need to do the inner work onyourself and again, whatever
kind of support that fits you,and then, when you're able to
talk about it because it was anevent in your life, you control
(15:22):
the narrative.
So that's why I really cautionpeople.
It's so important to share yourscars, not your wounds.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
All that's up and thank you very much for sharing
that part of the journey.
I'm looking forward to whatcomes next.
Thank you very much for sharingthat part of the journey.
I'm looking forward to whatcomes next.
Before we transition into stagetwo, episode two or part two,
sorry, not episode two a reallyreally good advice from your own
experience you would leave withthe listeners to allow them to
(15:51):
open up and express theirauthentic truth, whatever that
may be.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yes, their authentic truth, whatever that may be.
Yes and authenticity to me is ahuge key in living your best
life.
And there is so much guilt andshame out there with having been
victimized, whatever it was,from any kind of assault.
So I want people to know thatagain.
(16:15):
It is not your fault, the guiltand the shame and the blame
that people try to put on eachother.
It serves to keep people stuck.
No healing can happen in thatplace and we all know that shame
thrives in secrecy and guilt isI did something wrong, shame,
(16:37):
something's wrong with me, andif you've been hurt or
victimized, you don't deserve tohave somebody put that shame
onto you.
So please know that when youare able to speak your truth,
share your authentic voice, youare going to feel like you just
climbed the biggest mountain.
You will benefit from it, evenif it scares the hell out of you
(16:59):
before you've started hello.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Thank you for sharing that.
That's a very good message.
Ladies and gentlemen, this isrise from your shoes.
Burnout to brilliance.
This was episode one.
Sorry, wrong episode.
I can't even remember now somany.
This is going to be part one oftwo parts with Elena, and I
(17:24):
don't know what I'm going tocall it.
I don't think it's something tomyself.
I'll see you on part two.
Remember, share and subscribe.
You will change someone's life.
But also remember this before Igo You're a solution.
You're not a challenge or aproblem, so be a solution for
yourself.
From myself, I'm Elinor.
I will see you on part two veryshortly.
(17:46):
Take care.
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