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April 8, 2025 40 mins

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#27: Liz and Bryce The Third are back this week for a deeply personal and meaningful conversation, exploring topics like the human condition, perseverance, and cravings. Liz opens up about her lifelong battle with anxiety and the "Sunday Scaries," a struggle that dates back to her childhood. For Bryce, similar emotions were tied to the physical toll of his manual labor job during his active addiction.

Together, Bryce and Liz share thoughts they've had on the human condition — the worst-case scenarios we imagine when we feel trapped and dissatisfied. Bryce shares his journey in recovery to pay off his daunting credit card debt and the fear of never seeing the end. But through reflecting on that struggle, he discovered that the true reward isn't just the accomplishment, but the work itself. It's the discomfort and struggle that fuel growth.

Tune in as Bryce and Liz discuss the power of recognizing and sitting with cravings, finding balance between financial stability and creative freedom — all while embracing the discomfort that leads to personal growth.

Check out the new version of The Phoenix mobile app, called NewForm: Recovery & Wellbeing: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/newform-recovery-wellbeing/id1513232300.

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If you or a loved one is experiencing a mental health or substance use related crisis, the following resources can provide immediate help.*

If you are experiencing a medical or mental health emergency, please dial 911.

- Dial 988 for the SAMSHA Suicide & Crisis Lifeline.  Available 24/7
- Text “HOME” to 741-741 for the NAMI Crisis Text Line.  Available 24/7.
- Dial 1-800-622-2255 to connect with a nearby treatment center & community resources through the NCADD Hope Line. Available 24/7.
- Call or text 1-844-326-5400 for The GSCA CARES Warm Line.  Answered by Certified Addiction Recovery Empowerment Specialists with lived experience of Substance Use Recovery.  Available any day of the year, 8:30am-11pm EST

This resource was shared by Tiffany: If you are a woman in need of support in the New Hampshire or Massachusetts area, Jasmine Grace is an organization that may be able to help.  You can learn more at their website: https://www.jasminegrace.org/

*Note: The resources listed are provided for informational purposes only.  This list is not comprehensive and does not constitute an endorsement from The Phoenix

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