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April 23, 2025 • 61 mins

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🥋 What does it take to become one of the first female black belts in a male dominated sport and how does that mindset translate to life off the mats?

In this episode of Rolling Through Negotiations, Matthew sits down with Kim Cousins, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt and co-host of the Roll or Die podcast. With over 15 years on the mats, Kim reflects on the lessons that have shaped her from building confidence and community through BJJ to learning how to breathe, slow down, and adapt under pressure.

Key Takeaways:

  • Breath is your anchor, slowing it down can shift your entire nervous system.
  • Meet people where they’re at, negotiation and training both benefit from empathy and presence.
  • Strategy is timing, knowing when to hold, when to move, and when to let go.

This is a thoughtful and honest conversation from someone who’s walked the walk and still shows up with a learner’s mindset.

🎧 You can follow Kim’s podcast Roll or Die wherever you listen to your favourite shows.

New Rolling Through Negotiations episodes drop every Thursday.
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